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Offline Uncle Rich AiAi

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« on: May 25, 2003, 01:47:28 AM »
No, I am not trying to start a thread about Japanese vs English dub in animes, but rather, I need some help.

I want to buy some anime DVDs, but am unsure whether to get the English version, or import the original Japanese version.  I definitely want to buy Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke and Cowboy Bebop:  Knockin on Heaven's Door.  My question is, are there any scenes edited out in the English version of these films?  I've been trying to do a search on it, but haven't come across a web site which list the difference.  Because if they are, I would much rather buy import the original Japanese version.

Also, what I don't like about English dubbing is it changes the content of what is spoken.  I am really fussy about things like that in foreign movies.  What I am asking is, if I get the original Japanese version, will the English subtitles be more exact to what is spoken as apposed to the English version?  Does anyone know?  Because I don't mind subtitles, I actually prefer them.

As for Cowboy Bebop:  Knockin on Heaven's Door, I don't know about the English version.  Only the Japanese version was shown in Australia.

Man, I really need to get off my ass and apply for that Japanese course in the city.

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RE: Anime - Japanese vs English
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2003, 03:01:47 AM »
Don't DVDs usually have multiple langauges anyway? You would need to chosse. The english sub-title is not quite as accurate as the dub, but with the Japanese version, you can hear the original voice allowing you to get the feel right. I say subtitles all the way.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2003, 04:18:07 AM »
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Originally posted by: oohhboy
Don't DVDs usually have multiple langauges anyway?


I know they do, but I was asking "if I get the original Japanese version, will the English subtitles be more exact to what is spoken as apposed to the English version?" and if any scene were edited from the English version.
 

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2003, 05:07:08 AM »
Ah I see, I would go for the japanese version myself as it would be uncut, eg DBZ, english versions are usually cut up pretty badly, especially if it has lots of fan service/violence. But you might not have english speech support. But you most likely have the sub-titles. As for the translation, Japanese and english are quite different, so the translation would be taken into context and the sub-titles are should be the same as the english version.

If I was to vote on it, Japanese version everytime.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2003, 05:37:27 AM »
most anime DVD have a subtitle track more specific to the Japanese dialouge, rather than a caption track for the dub.

Some recent DVD's have 2 subtitle tracks, a literal translation track, and the subtitle track to go along with the dub.

you are in australia, so I don't know much about the industry over there and how they do it, but this is how they do it in north america
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2003, 07:25:29 AM »
Sub>Dub 'nough said...
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2003, 01:53:15 PM »
Depends on what sort of movie you want. The Miyazaki movies are dubbed and subbed incredibly well. I don't think anything has been cut from it...

However, series like DragonBall Z are butched by dubbing and cutting. I import my DBZ. I don't trust anything dubbed or subbed by Bandai, either.

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2003, 02:24:00 PM »
I have the dubbed Princess Mononoke, and it's REALLY good.  Not having seen the subbed version though, I don't know if the translation was as true as it could have been.  I have seen both the dubbed and the subbed Spirited Away, and IMO, either version is just as good.

The voice acting in both the English and Japanese versions of these movies are top notch though.  I don't think I can really choose between them.  I would pick the English versions though, simply so that you can concentrate more on the artwork.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2003, 03:41:13 PM »
Well, the majority of Anime DVDs I have base the English subtitles on the Japanese language track. Only one doesn't, and that's ShadowSkill... But that's a terrible movie anyway
Watching the anime with the English dub and sub at the same time can often be confusing. It's amazing how many times the English dub will chuck a "f*ck" or "sh*t" in for the hell of it.

As for edited scenes... Never. Not even mainstream anime like DBZ gets scenes cut out when it is released on DVD (unlike when it's shown on TV, chop-o-rama)


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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2003, 03:51:03 PM »
Specifically with Spirited Away, do NOT get the Japanese DVD.  It's got a terrible red tint that is very distracting, and was fixed for the US release.

That said, all of the domestic Studio Ghibli releases have been quite excellent, and have wonderful voice acting.  I wouldn't hesitate to get any of them.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2003, 07:09:22 PM »
Disney has done a great job with the english releases of the ghibli films.  The dubs are fantastic.

before anyone downs them for not having more out...

keep in mind the contract states disney can't put out the DVD release in the USA till they do in Japan.  DIsney went toe-to-toe with Ghibli with princess mononoke to get the japanese language track on the DVD, because it was against the origional contract.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2003, 01:27:40 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2003, 09:33:19 AM »
It depends on how well the sub/dub is.  seriously, it differs too much between anime's to try.

In the case of "X" (the TV show) both were done incredibly, incredibly well.  Well enough that i didn't mind switching to japanese halfway through the series so i could finish it a few months early >.>

but, in Evangelion, the fansub my friend has is horrendous, to the point that i couldn't finish it.  
another friend of mine has the official american DVD's, where the english voice acting is great.

However.. I *MUST* recommend "X" its the best anime I've seen, and the amount of anime I've seen is steadily increasing to quite a big number.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2003, 02:26:56 PM »
I downloaded Cowboy Bebop, awesome movie, but I still intend to buy it.  As for Spirited Away, I'm borrowing watching that as soon as my friend gets it back from his sister.  Aside from that, though, I'm not a big anime dude, and the only other animes I've seen on DVD are Hyper Police (dumb as heck, but the dubbing is okay), Princess Mononoke (very good dubbing), and Akira (pretty good dubbing).  As for scenes not being on the DVD, I doubt it, since they usually include deleted scenes as a bonus in DVDs anyway.  If anything, there'll be more.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2003, 01:37:35 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys!

With Cowboy Bebop: Knockin on Heaven's Door, I don't have a choice as the Japanese DVD only contains Japanese with NO subtitles.  I just found out after a big of searching.

I've decided to get the limited edition Spirited Away DVD when it's released in Australia next month.  Looks like I'lll have to import Princess Mononoke.  Can't find it in my country...

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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2003, 12:44:37 PM »
You could always go to your nearest China Town and invest in some bootleg anime DVD's

They always contain fansubbed English subs (and Chinese), but it's often a lucky dip on how good they are. For instance, I have a bootlegged copy of Star Ocean EX, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell what's going on. The subs are THAT BAD. Yet my copy of Strawberry Eggs has perfect subs.

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