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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Wii controls vs. Traditional controls

« on: July 30, 2007, 01:14:47 PM »

Resident Evil 4 started it, and Metroid Prime 3 will push it over the edge. After that it will be extremely hard to aim with an analog stick instead of pointing and shooting.

One of my hopes, and I know it's not likely, goes like this. You know how reviews of Wii games when talking about graphics tend to mention how much better things are on the other two consoles? I really hope Halo 3's reviews say that the controls are good for a standard joypad but nowhere near as good as Metroid Prime 3.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (nsf56k)

« on: July 30, 2007, 10:51:00 AM »

I don't believe I used either of those conjunctions.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: 8 Biggest Wii games of 07

« on: July 30, 2007, 09:02:06 AM »

Yeah I thought of that while I was typing it. It does seem like the EA thing to do, doesn't it. Oh well, I probably won't get around to Live anyway, and I'll have to stretch just to fit Madden in. I have to have Madden, it's the only way in which my Browns can have a successful season...

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: 8 Biggest Wii games of 07

« on: July 30, 2007, 07:55:31 AM »

Very cool. I wonder if they'll add a way with the co-op so if say it's 3 on 3, the actual game will be 3 on 3, and you won't have to have any CPU controlled players, that would be great. Thanks for the response!

[NintendoTrekker18]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:8 Biggest Wii games of 07

« on: July 30, 2007, 07:12:33 AM »

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For me...

1. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games - A historic crossover, three fantastic licences (Olympics, Mario, Sonic), tons of great characters, numerous events to choose from (over 20 according to Gamespot)
2. Super Smash Brothers Brawl - Looks epic and awesome from the trailers and the always-nifty daily updates. Could be the best fighting game of this generation, IMO.
3. Super Mario Galaxy - Hype really went up for me when I saw how much more Mario64-esque it was and less Sunshine-like. Could be a million-seller.
4. MySims - The depth of the creativity and customization features is just incredible. Couple that with a much more fun and cute look than regular Sims!
5. Madden NFL '08 - Online play, 22 Mini-Games, Mii features, telestrator plus all of the modes and awesome motion controls from '07 PLUS improved graphics.
6. Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga - I've played but do not own either game, and this looks awesome with motion controls, new levels and features plus improved graphics.
7. Rockstar Presents Table Tennis (2007?) - The 360 game looked awesome, and Table Tennis was always fun to watch in the Olympics. Should rock with motion controls.
8. Thrillville: Off the Rails - Always loved the Roller Coaster Tycoon games on PC and have waited for one for a Nintendo console. Not quite the same, naturally, but the new features and mini-games should really propel it to coolness.

Honorable Mentions:
Carnival Games (I know--but it has skeeball and I'm a sucker for those "dreaded" mini-game collections)
FIFA '08 (Soccer and Online Play!)
My Word Coach (My whole family loves word games and this should be interesting)
Namco Museum Remix (I've had an eye for this collection since it was announced)
NBA Live 08 (Online play and Basketball!)
Power Rangers: Super Legends (Has the ability to play as classic MMPR Rangers)
Smartypants (2007?) (A trivia game--cool)

If Mario & Sonic has the 1:1 fencing Miyamoto suggested, I'd have it in my 8, but not quite number 1. I think a million is a pretty low estimate, if Galaxy is as good as it seems it should do quite a bit better than that. My main question: do you have a link to where they confirmed Live to be online? In what I've read it wasn't talked about like they talk about it in Madden and FIFA, but since it's in that it seems likely, though I haven't seen it actually confirmed.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (nsf56k)

« on: July 30, 2007, 05:58:04 AM »

Yes, but don't you think you're a little to biased on the subject of the brain probing plan to make an objective judgment? I don't think we should dismiss it too quickly.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 30, 2007, 05:54:31 AM »

I would probably get it if I had the points; I'm at zero right now, which is weird because for a while I had a few hundred points, but not enough to buy anything, but I haven't had actual zero in a while. All my money right now is tied up in real Wii games, so I'll have to wait and pick this one up later. If I want to play something by Treasure I should go back and play some more Gunstar Heroes, which I haven't played much apart from co-op.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl (nsf56k)

« on: July 30, 2007, 05:43:45 AM »

I don't think they could build a dome big enough for this one

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 30, 2007, 05:40:23 AM »

According to my sources (nice VC site that I usually agree with, http://www.vc-reviews.com ) Drop Off gets 1 out of 5, Star Soldier gets a 2 (to be expected, Super Star Soldier and Soldier Blade are later, better games in the series and already on the VC for only $1 more), and Dynamite Heady gets 4 out of 5. It sounds pretty interesting, a platformer with some cool tricks, and it's made by Treasure, if that makes a difference for anyone.

EDIT: I screwed up the link, the end parentheses was included in it, it's fixed now.  

[TVman]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl (nsf56k)

« on: July 30, 2007, 05:30:36 AM »

I have just finished going back through this whole topic, because I'm new here and I have that kind of time. Look what I found.

A discussion popped up about halfway through this toipic so far about DK's final smash.

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He probably just whips out some bongos and makes everyone dance.

We need to capture this person and remove his brain as to further probe it and extract the prescient information we can about SSBB.


Also, I don't believe that anyone has mentioned the fact that Melee was released in America on December 3rd, 2001, exactly 6 years before Brawl. Obviously, since this is the third Smash Brothers game, and it is 6 years since the last one, 3....6.... triple 6. Super Smash Bros. Brawl is obviously a warning that the end is near, and we shall all prepare for the day of reckoning.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 11:55:05 PM »

"Aren't you at least going to tell me the details of your plan for world domination?"

"Oh, I'm not going to fall for that one again"

And probably my all-time favorite line, Freddy Quimby on trial for beating up a waiter. His lawyer puts him on the stand to try and convince them he isn't quick to anger. He asks a simple question, and gets "I'll kill you, I'll kill all of you, especially those of you in the jury!"

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 11:03:23 PM »

According to the DVD commentaries Brooks thought up the whole hammock thing on the spot; they talk about how when he does the show he'll do the scripted lines one take, then the next make up something different.

One of my absolute favorite lines from the show's history was what Scorpio said to Homer after he tackle James Bont: Great job, Homer. When you get home tonight there's gonna be another story on your house.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 10:44:39 PM »

Any time they make a sports reference it makes the show seem out of date. Don't get me wrong, I love that ending, but it seems odd now that Denver won 2 straight Super Bowls (I think the ones immediately following that episode's airing), and they're a perennial contender. And the song over the credits is a great effort, like most of their songs, and of course where I got the last line in my previous post.

And looking at it now I seem to have hijacked this thread. Every few posts one of mine shows up. I suppose it's fitting, given how much I've spent on the VC (I think it's currently at $280, give or take $10).

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 10:24:44 PM »

Well The Simpsons is my all-time favorite show and one of my three major obsessions. You Only Move Twice is its best episode, and Albert Brooks does great work on the show (I thought the movie was pretty good, but one of my complaints is that Brooks' character, Russ Cargill, didn't have a bigger part). You've gotta love Hank Scorpio, he'll sting you with his dreams of power and wealth.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 10:06:04 PM »

Wow, I've only been here a few days and now I have a friend and an enemy! That was fast!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 09:52:24 PM »

Actually I never got around to playing it, I was just saying that to avoid an argument. I guess that didn't work too well, huh?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 09:16:09 PM »

I don't think landmark numbers mean that much to Nintendo. Number 100 was Zelda II, which, while a very good game, wasn't worthy of headlining a milestone like that.

GoldenPhoenix, no complaining about good VC weeks! After a long drought, we've had two great weeks of releases (except for Mashiro, who hates Paper Mario with the white-hot intensity of a million stars, who has had 1 great week) and I don't want them to stop. They probably will for a while for Metroid, but after that there's nothing much on the Wii til late October (but DK Jungle Climber and Zelda Phantom Hourglass on the DS), so maybe they'll throw us something then.

EDIT: Do you think NWR will do a very special two-part episode of VC Mondays this week because the no-show last week? I really hope someone got fired because of that blunder  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 08:40:32 PM »

The original Metroid recently came out in Europe, so that seems likely. I doubt we'll get Super before the first one.

My fingers are crossed for Super Mario Bros. 3, tied for best game ever in my book (with OoT, which already came out and I should probably go back and finish, I think I'm at the Fire Temple). It'll be the last Mario on the VC, assuming they never add Game Boy games, which I hope they do.

Another N64 game would be nice, too, and since WaveRace is coming to Japan tomorrow I guess that'd be the one. I've never played it, but I've heard it's good, so that's good. How about something besides a racer next time, though, Nintendo? Wave Race will make it 3 out of 7 racing games of the N64 VC.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 29, 2007, 08:14:29 PM »

We're 9 hours away from go-time, any predictions?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: review alien syndrome already!!!

« on: July 29, 2007, 08:11:53 PM »

I know he made several points, most of them good, about why he gave the score he did. And I know the Wii is capable of much more graphically. My point is that he spent most of the review talking about the graphics. That's not a good way to structure a game review.

Mashiro, I totally agree that games can and should look good on the Wii, and really hope Metroid and especially Mario Galaxy raise the standard for graphics on the Wii. But I think that just because they don't look great doesn't mean they can't be fun.

This is a game that should be tried, and if you see it for cheap--which you will, the reviews will scare off most people and cause some trade-ins, and the price will plummet due to lack of demand--pick it up. (Especially you GoldenPhoenix; you don't want to support this kind of game, if you buy it used none of your money will go to the publisher or developer of this game)

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:review alien syndrome already!!!

« on: July 29, 2007, 05:42:55 PM »

I knew BWII was online (it was one of the first two games confirmed to be Wi-Fi enabled, along with Strikers, back before the Wii was even released), but it wasn't until recently that I learned that that included co-op and I was extremely excited.

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Sounds like Red Steel all over again "Hey this is an average game but since it is 3rd party and I am desperate for games my standards have been lowered to compensate unconsciously".

You know VGRevolution, for someone who reprimanded Svevan when he was condescending towards people who read books from Danielle Steele and the like, you're being awfully elitist yourself with that opinion on other people's gaming tastes..

No it is because I feel it is doing more harm than good then defending games as being great games and running down reviewers as being paid off. You like a game, fine. But don't pretend that everyone else is unfairly picking on the game, sometimes it is fine to admit that a game can induce an average response from someone without there being some big conspiracy. For example, I really enjoyed a game called Battletanks for N64, but reviewers gave it an average score, and guess what? I thought it was justified, same goes with Mario Party 8, which while I enjoyed it I will openly admit Nintendo needs to do much better the next time around. Not sure about that Danielle Steele thing I've never even heard of the author before!

Also I plan on picking up Escape from Bug Island!

I don't think the reviewer was paid off; if they were paying him off they probably would have sent them a review copy

I don't think this is an all-time great game, but it is very entertaining. I'm not asking they give it a 9 or an 8, but 5 is too low. The reviewer did the same with Heatseeker (a cool arcade-style flight game with great Wii controls; using the nunchuk as a flight stick is great, and also a great example of how sensitive the nunchuk sensor is), a PS2 port, they talked about the graphics for about 80-90 percent of the review. That, I believe, got a 6.5, which I think is about accurate. I had fun with it, but it was a bit repetitive and certain parts (carrier landings) were overly tough. If they'd given Alien Syndrome a 7, or even a 6.5, it would be fine. I would give it better, but as a general guide it makes sense. Even if the reviewer insists on giving it a 5.5, he should spend more time talking about what he thinks are gameplay flaws and less whining about the graphics. If he cares about graphics that much he should switch to reviewing PS3 games.

[Ceric]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:ign gave mari ostrikers an...

« on: July 28, 2007, 01:16:14 PM »

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No wonder the US is working itself to 3rd world status.  Are education system is below 3rd World.

I'm going to take the high road and not make a big deal about you using Are instead of Our in a statement about education (though not quite high enough to not point it out at all ) and instead give you the award for Most Insane Exaggeration of the Month. The United States may not (read: does not) have the greatest education system in the world, but to call it worse than Third World standards is beyond ridiculous, beyond ludicrous, and to a point where the level of stupidity is so dense that light itself can not escape it. Yes, there are quite a few problems with the current system, but it's not completely horrible (at least not most of the time) and has its successes from time to time. Also, I think the mere fact that the US has a public education system puts it quite a bit ahead of the third world.

Next time you want to make a huge exaggeration like that, think about what you're saying a little before posting it.

Also: On Topic: Strikers is going to be really good. There, I think I covered the topic quite nicely.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: The officially un-official "What game should I get" Thread

« on: July 28, 2007, 12:55:10 PM »

The previous Paper Marios were RPGs with platforming elements, Super Paper Mario is nearly all platformer, just not a very fast moving one. I really enjoyed the way the game was set up in that most of the major obstacles were puzzles that required the use of the different pixls and dimension switching. The game is relatively easy, but worth playing through at least once if only for the brilliant writing. The Paper Mario series is a perfect example of how the Treehouse team that translates Nintendo's games from Japanese to English has gone from good to great to amazing to the best frakking translations ever. Very few games manage to get genuinely funny, and I don't think anything is anywhere close to the writing in this game. Really funny throughout, with certain parts that are just insanely funny. Anything with Bowser is great, especially a couple of the lines when you first get to him, and anyone familiar with game forums will appreciate Francis' level.

And I would advise against Super Monkey Ball and instead point you toward Kororinpa: Marble Mania. I bought Monkey Ball at launch, having absolutely loved the first two on the 'Cube, and was severely disappointed. Of the 13 Wii games I've purchased so far Monkey Ball is the only one I traded in. But then I got Kororinpa. It's a relatively simple presentation with outstanding controls and the kind of deceptively simple looking levels that were often insanely frustrating, but in a way that you knew the only thing you had to blame was yourself that made me love the original Super Monkey Balls. The only thing missing is Kororinpa Target

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: The officially un-official "What game should I get" Thread

« on: July 28, 2007, 10:27:57 AM »

WarioWare ruined Shooting Gallery in Wii Play for me with Can Shooter. Can Shooter (unlockable game you get after getting to a certain point in single player, which is great to) is the old school light gun game I wanted Shooting Gallery to be. Simple mechanics, excellent controls, and brutally unforgiving difficulty; now that's what I'm talking about.

Don't buy Rayman for multiplayer, it's not designed for that. Single player is fun for a while, but multi's not very good; the sequel scheduled to release later this year is supposed to be much more multiplayer-oriented.

Super Paper Mario is excellent, great mix of platforming and puzzle solving, just make sure you are able to think in three dimensions. I missed RE4 the first time around, but the Wii version is spectacular, and after playing it I don't think I could play it (or a similar game) using an analog stick to aim. RE4 Wii Edition has ruined 3rd-person action games using dual analog for me in the same way Metroid Prime 3 will do a month from now for first-person shooters. I am currently loving Alien Syndrome, but I suppose we should leave discussion of that in its own topic.

If you want a great multiplayer game, wait 3 days and get Mario Strikers, the first proper Wii online game. Also, on the VC, Mario Kart 64 and Bomberman 93 are excellent multiplayer games. And I've had my Wii since launch and every multiplayer outing always comes back to Wii Sports. That thing has incredible lasting power, especially in multiplayer.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official "Virtual Console Mondays" Thread

« on: July 28, 2007, 08:59:36 AM »

That's pretty surprising, I mean, a kids movie licensed game and they do completely different games for systems that were pretty much functionally identical. Someone with an axe to grind about the perceived decline in game quality over the years would make a huge deal about that. I had the Genesis Aladdin and it was pretty good, and damn near impossible in the later levels.