Topic: Super Mario Kart Mafia: Day One. Luigi Circut.

[Plugabugz]

Welcome!



And with 14 players on the starting line, this is going to be an epic.. and messy battle.

Closing time for day one is midnight EST tomorrow. This will be called by Khush.

Players List:
Stevey
Nickmitch
Stratos
Mop It Up
Maxi
Thatguy
Theperm
Dasmos
Daaaman64
Rabicle
DrewMG
Khush
Vudu
GP

RULES:
For the Red Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Blue Team and AT LEAST HALF OF the Green Team.
For the Blue Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Red Team and AT LEAST HALF OF the Green Team.
For the Green Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Red Team OR the Blue Team.

All players have now received PM's. Second PM's have been sent to necessary people.
All players have three points.

FAQ:
Can I ask you how many players are on the other teams, or is that not something I'm supposed to know?
You will not know how many players are on the other teams. Feel free to determine this on your own.

How long do I have to decide who to use my item? Will I lose it if I don't use it today?
You have until the end of the day to use the item. Midnight EST. For Day One you have until Midnight EST tomorrow. If you do not use your item you will retain it until it is used.

Are item usage time-sensitive?
Yes. They are processed in order in which I receive. Green Team will jump the queue.

What happens in the event of a tie?
The person with the lowest amount of points would die.

Lets say someone has the identifier. And asks you who has the Pow Block. Does that mean that that person will find out and join the team of who has the Pow Block?
Yes.

LET THE BATTLE COMMENCE!

[stevey]

Vote Khush

[nickmitch]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

[Plugabugz]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

[GoldenPhoenix]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

I think Pale is on his honeymoon or something right now

[Plugabugz]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

I think Pale is on his honeymoon or something right now

Can anyone else assist?

[GoldenPhoenix]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

I think Pale is on his honeymoon or something right now

Can anyone else assist?

Send a message to Lindy, he should be able to help. Or Mr. Jack, or even Kairon!

[Plugabugz]

I made a boobie and accidentally forgot to add GP.

I will be making a few adjustments, new PM's going out to some people shortly. If you do not receive a second PM, everything stands as normal.

[Spak-Spang]

A Sunday Start?  Wha??? 

[Plugabugz]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

I think Pale is on his honeymoon or something right now

Can anyone else assist?

Send a message to Lindy, he should be able to help. Or Mr. Jack, or even Kairon!

I sent one to Lord Kairon as he was online.

A Sunday Start?  Wha??? 

I'm opening it up on sunday, but rolls right through to tomorrow night. I wanted to have all night to iron out the kinks.

[vudu]

Do I understand correctly that the Green Team needs to be eliminated first in order for the Red or Blue team to win?  If so we need to somehow band together to find out who's on the Green Team and vote them out.  Anyone have any ideas the best way to determine this?

[Mop it up]

He who says "We should attack the green team!" is probably a member of the green team.

[Stratos]

Oh! So we have all of tomorrow to let day one play out? Then I will hold off voting until tomorrow then. I don't have enough time today to deduce a good first guess before work since I have to be ready to leave in the next half hour.

[Mop it up]

Well you might as well throw your vote at me. You know why?

unVote Stratos

You brought this on yourself. Stop killing me!

[Stratos]

I can't help it if you always tend to stand in my path to victory.

Vote Mop it up.

[Plugabugz]

Do I understand correctly that the Green Team needs to be eliminated first in order for the Red or Blue team to win?  If so we need to somehow band together to find out who's on the Green Team and vote them out.  Anyone have any ideas the best way to determine this?

Half of the green team need to be eliminated for either red/blue to win. The exact number of that team is unknown (except to them).

[Stratos]

I'm going to guess the break down is 6-6-2.
5-5-4 seems a bit much but who knows, it's possible.

[Mop it up]

I can't help it if you always tend to stand in my path to victory.

Vote Mop it up.

That explains only the last game. The first two were just mean.

But it's okay, it's probably for the better to have you take me out over any of these other yokels. At least now I have only one person to attempt revenge on instead of several.

[vudu]

Do I understand correctly that the Green Team needs to be eliminated first in order for the Red or Blue team to win?  If so we need to somehow band together to find out who's on the Green Team and vote them out.  Anyone have any ideas the best way to determine this?

Half of the green team need to be eliminated for either red/blue to win. The exact number of that team is unknown (except to them).

I think there are conflicting win conditions, but perhaps I'm just not understanding them.  Here are the win conditions that you posted:

For the Red Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Blue Team and AT LEAST HALF OF the Green Team.
For the Blue Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Red Team and AT LEAST HALF OF the Green Team.
For the Green Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Red Team OR the Blue Team.

The rules state that for the Green team to win either the Red or Blue team need to be defeated.  For the Red or Blue team to win they need to defeat all of the opposing team and half of the Green team.  But if half of the Green team is still around, won't the Green team win instead of the Red or Blue team?  Doesn't that mean that for the Red team to win they need to defeat all of the Blue team and all of the Green team (and vice versa for the Blue team to win)?

[Khushrenada]

I'll throw out a vote for Stratos.

You know, I could have started this day in the mafia forum instead. That said, you should still get you superpower.

[ThePerm]

ok so im going to continue my mop_it_up alliance from the last game

and sorry about 2 games ago, your name was just the first one i could remember from the other team off the top of my head that day, i didn't mean to be mean! I was at best buy for goodness sakes!

vote stratos

[that Baby guy]

un-vote GoldenPhoenix

Oh yeah.  Something different from me.  I should probably read the rules.  And beg for someone to make me an Ice-Climber Kart avatar.

YUP!

Edit:  I already need help.  Weird.  The sign-up topic mentions a Pow Block and a Star in the descriptions of the items.  Are they items too?

My guess is that the Pow Block would hit all players not on your team, and take a point/block item usage, and that a Star makes you invincible from attacks and hits anyone who votes for you the same day.  Can anyone confirm/clarify that?

Double Edit:  Oh, there's an alliance?  I'm gonna change my vote to just spite all of them:

un-vote Mop-it-up

[ThePerm]

just to spite? , you can be in our alliance too! Actually mop_it_up hasn't even responded to me yet soo. There isn't one till she agrees.

[that Baby guy]

Well, we're also looking to draw ire, as well.

YUP!

Edit:  Now I'm really messed up.  Are "Boo," and "Identifier" the same item?  Can there be two of one item for people on the same team, then?

[Mop it up]

You know, it is funny, I had actually voted for Stratos just to tease him, I didn't expect it would start a bandwagon! I was just having a little fun until I could get more info and make a "serious" vote tomorrow. And now look at what I've gotten myself into! 

[Plugabugz]

Do I understand correctly that the Green Team needs to be eliminated first in order for the Red or Blue team to win?  If so we need to somehow band together to find out who's on the Green Team and vote them out.  Anyone have any ideas the best way to determine this?

Half of the green team need to be eliminated for either red/blue to win. The exact number of that team is unknown (except to them).

I think there are conflicting win conditions, but perhaps I'm just not understanding them.  Here are the win conditions that you posted:

For the Red Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Blue Team and AT LEAST HALF OF the Green Team.
For the Blue Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Red Team and AT LEAST HALF OF the Green Team.
For the Green Team to win, they must defeat all the members of the Red Team OR the Blue Team.

The rules state that for the Green team to win either the Red or Blue team need to be defeated.  For the Red or Blue team to win they need to defeat all of the opposing team and half of the Green team.  But if half of the Green team is still around, won't the Green team win instead of the Red or Blue team?  Doesn't that mean that for the Red team to win they need to defeat all of the Blue team and all of the Green team (and vice versa for the Blue team to win)?

Because of the amount of players this has changed. For example, for red to win, they would need to defeat at least half of the blue team. So if 8 people were on the team, 4 or less is required to win. The green team needs to retain at least half to auto-win, so if there was 10 people on their team then 6 needs to win. 5 or less and they are unable to win. (I'm making all of the numbers up).

un-vote GoldenPhoenix

Edit:  I already need help.  Weird.  The sign-up topic mentions a Pow Block and a Star in the descriptions of the items.  Are they items too?

My guess is that the Pow Block would hit all players not on your team, and take a point/block item usage, and that a Star makes you invincible from attacks and hits anyone who votes for you the same day.  Can anyone confirm/clarify that?

The POW Block and Star are items too. Not all items are used on the same day. A star makes you invincible to all attacks and votes for the same day, and the next one. The POW block randomises the opposing team yes, but at the same time it carries the risk that who they were meant to target will change.

Boo and Identifier are separate items. Boo allows you to swap two people of your choice (green team has this only). Identifier allows you to ask me a question, such as "Who has the red shell?" but it carries the risk of changing team.
Red/Blue team members can only have one item at a time.

[BeautifulShy]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

I think Pale is on his honeymoon or something right now

Can anyone else assist?

Send a message to Lindy, he should be able to help. Or Mr. Jack, or even Kairon!

I talked to Greg earlier about this and he said that only the Adminstrators can give Mod powers.

So Plugabugz you have to get in contact with Pale,TYP,Megabite and Jonnyboy117.

[Plugabugz]

So, are we not doing this in the Mafia forum?

I have PM'ed Pale asking for it to be moved. Let me go bother some other adminystaff types.

I think Pale is on his honeymoon or something right now

Can anyone else assist?

Send a message to Lindy, he should be able to help. Or Mr. Jack, or even Kairon!

I talked to Greg earlier about this and he said that only the Adminstrators can give Mod powers.

So Plugabugz you have to get in contact with Pale,TYP,Megabite and Jonnyboy117.

I sent one to Pale already, and Lindy earlier on. All the mods will be able to at least move the threads at least.

[BeautifulShy]

Well you have mod powers Plugabugz but Khushrenada doesn't. Hopefully this can be corrected before the day is done.

Edit: Ok Khushrenada and Plugabugz has Mod powers on this forum.MegaBite gave them Mod Powers.

So let us resume this Mafia game.

[Plugabugz]

Thank you invisible stranger of the interwebs!

[that Baby guy]

I'm not too clear on the Green team, either.  They need half of their members left to auto-win.  What conditions allow for an auto-win, then?

The only chance for Red or Blue victory is when there's half or less of the Green team left.  The only chance for a Green Team win is either for both sides to lose, or for one side to lose, and there be over half left, from the numbers you stated, I believe, though I could be mistaken.  What I'm asking is this:  What happens if the Blue team is alive, no one's left on the Red team, and there's more than half of the Green team left?  According to the rules, the Green team would have won, but the Blue team would still have a chance to win, if they can kill enough of the green team.  Is that how it works?

Edit:  Alright, if you have an identifier, and you want to win this game, send me a PM.  It's that simple.

[Plugabugz]

I'm not too clear on the Green team, either.  They need half of their members left to auto-win.  What conditions allow for an auto-win, then?

The only chance for Red or Blue victory is when there's half or less of the Green team left.  The only chance for a Green Team win is either for both sides to lose, or for one side to lose, and there be over half left, from the numbers you stated, I believe, though I could be mistaken.  What I'm asking is this:  What happens if the Blue team is alive, no one's left on the Red team, and there's more than half of the Green team left?  According to the rules, the Green team would have won, but the Blue team would still have a chance to win, if they can kill enough of the green team.  Is that how it works?

If there's nobody on the red team then green wins. Red/Blue need to keep at least half to be able to win. Green need to stay above half.

So, for example:
If Red/Blue has 10 and Green has 4.
Either Red or Blue would be out of the game if their team drops to 5. Same applies to Green, but they must have three or four (they have a smaller team, but need to keep more people to win and have less items to do it with).

If you are Red, half of the other team and more than half of Green. The same rule applies if you are blue.
If you are Green, half of either Red/Blue. But just the one team. (This is what i mean by auto-win, red/blue may have defeated each other but green is hiding away and wins by surviving)

[BeautifulShy]

I'll be back later.

[that Baby guy]

I'll say it a second time, in case anyone missed it:  If you have an identifier item, PM.  If I can get PMs from everyone with an identifier, I'm certain I can make sure that anyone with the identifier can win, provided that all players, dead or alive, on the team win.  However, it requires cooperation.

[BeautifulShy]

Can I get a vote count.

[Stratos]

Stratos-3
Mop it up-2
Khush-1

[that Baby guy]

I believe it's

Stratos-     3
Mop_it_Up- 2
Khush-       1

But that's just a quick glance.  Stratos has an important item for one of the teams, though, so I would back off from him, and go after someone else, really, until we've gotten a chance to figure out a bit of things.  Seems a bit early to kill someone who hasn't pointed a load of fingers at someone else, doesn't it?  Mop_it_up was the first to attack the guy, though...

[Stratos]

Mop it up has had a rolling, pent up Vendetta that has been simmering since the end of the first mafia game. I've apparently been an agent in Mop it up's demise in most of the previous mafia games we've played together.

[that Baby guy]

Well, I think it's mean to just throw someone under the bridge like that.  What an egghead.

[Mop it up]

I retracted the vote for Stratos so now it looks like this:

Stratos-     2
Mop_it_Up- 2
Khush-       1

What happens in the event of a tie? Unless both players survive then somebody had better throw a vote my way before the day ends.

[Plugabugz]

I should point out to everyone that you need to PM me to say if you wish to use your item. Secondly, if applicable, you would need to PM me telling me if you will use it offensive or defensively.

What happens in the event of a tie? Unless both players survive then somebody had better throw a vote my way before the day ends.

The person with the lowest amount of points dies.

[that Baby guy]

Hmm, a bold move by Mop_it_up.  If she would join my forces and vote against stevey, I would definitely vote for him instead of her.

[Mop it up]

Alright.

Vote Stevey

Though I would appreciate a PM explaining your plan. You can even continue with the puns.

[that Baby guy]

un-vote stevey

Didn't I already send that to you?

[Mop it up]

All I deciphered from your cryptic pun-filled messages was that you were going to target me.

[that Baby guy]

Oh.  You didn't break the code?  This is textbook stuff!

[Stratos]

I guess I'll follow the crowd and Vote Stevey.

[stevey]

wait, what?

IHATEYOUIHATEYOUIHATEYOUIHATEYOU

...Or not.

What's the POW block do, I can't figure out when to use it :-/

You're in trouble!  What to do, what to do?  Can... you give me a reason to keep you alive?

The Green Team will have 4 items for the entire game:
Boo
POW
2 x Red shells

You're a member of team green or I don't know what going on...

Vote ThatGuy[/b]

[that Baby guy]

I made myself an avatar, since you all are meanies.

Also:

thatguy does not choose to comment on rumors and speculation.  If thatguy has something that he would like to announce, he will announce it, and it will be announced.  Announcements will occur if thatguy has something to say.

[stevey]

Can bananas be used offensively like last time???

[Plugabugz]

Can bananas be used offensively like last time???

Yes.

[Plugabugz]

I'm going to bed in 15 mins so fire any PM's in quickly! I won't be back until after day 2 has been opened.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Uh, I guess I'll vote stevey

[that Baby guy]

Yikes!  Stevey!  Is this how you want it to be?  I know it's where it's at, but is that how it's 'sposed to be?

[BeautifulShy]

Can I get a tally.

[that Baby guy]

We're looking at:

stevey  4
stratos  2
thatguy 1

[BeautifulShy]

Hmm I curious how this vote came about.

[that Baby guy]

Because I'm a bad enough dude to have made it come about, though Mop_it_up and stevey have been conspiring, so things could change.

[Mop it up]

Because I'm a bad enough dude to have made it come about, though Mop_it_up and stevey have been conspiring, so things could change.

"Conspiring" is a bit eggsaggerated. He's trying to convince me to vote for you but I don't think that's a good idea. I'm going to lose either way but I at least want to survive the first day.

[that Baby guy]

See, if it were me, I'd tell everyone to wait until as late as they could to change their votes to try to squeeze information out of one target, then kill the one you know is bad.

Who's the bad guy again?

[Mop it up]

Who's the bad guy again?

We don't know that yet. My intuition tells me it is you but usually it is wrong when it comes to this game.

What I'd rather do is vote for those who don't show up to vote. I know some of the players have come online today but haven't posted in this thread. Non-participation shouldn't be a winning strategy!

[that Baby guy]

You know my weakness :-/  Not fair!  Alright, let's make a list of non-participants.

Here we are:

Dasmos
Daaaman64
Rabicle
DrewMG

I've not PM'ed these people, either.  No idea about their position or anything.

[Mop it up]

These people haven't posted:

Nickmitch
Dasmos
DAaaMan64
RABicle
DrewMG

And these people haven't voted:

Vudu
Maxi

[BeautifulShy]

Hmm I'm still thinking about who to vote for.

We have 45 mins till voting ends.

[nickmitch]

These people haven't posted:

Nickmitch
Dasmos
DAaaMan64
RABicle
DrewMG

And these people haven't voted:

Vudu
Maxi

Fixed.

[Mop it up]

Now you just need to vote Nickmitch.

We should create a three-way tie!

[stevey]

fine vote stratos

[that Baby guy]

A three way tie would just lend the results out of the hands of the public, and into the hands of whomever used some items.  It'll close off information.

Well, now you've done it, Mop_it_up.  You done gone and given me reason to vote for you, real reason, as flimsy as it is, it's all I've got that's legitimate.

un-vote Mop_it_up

[Mop it up]

Woah, hey, what did I do?

It isn't a tie if you don't change your vote. Stevey had 4 and Stratos has three, but now they are tied at three!

[that Baby guy]

If I have to, I'll change my vote.  We'll see.

[Mop it up]

Okay but why did you change your vote to me? What am I missing here?

[stevey]

A tie? Time for my secret weapon!
 
Screw you guy on the ground!

EAT SONIC BOOM!

[that Baby guy]

He was right...

He did plan to bring hawtness to the thread, given I keep him in the game!

[BeautifulShy]

So there is 7 mins left and it is tied.

Who is the tie between?

[Mop it up]

Stevey and Stratos, 3 each.

One vote for Khush, one for me as well.

[that Baby guy]

vote stratos

[BeautifulShy]

Yes time is up and Stratos is gone.
I don't see Khushrenada online.

Just a quick tally for Khushrenada.

4 votes for Stratos and 3 votes for Stevey.

[Khushrenada]

Sorry, all. Just got home. Thread locked.