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Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« on: September 15, 2009, 03:39:06 PM »
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NINTENDO'S HOLIDAY LINEUP HAS SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE

Find Great Gifts for Everyone on Your Shopping List


REDMOND, Wash., Sept. 15 - As summer draws to a close, the air begins to chill and people begin to turn their thoughts to holiday gift lists. Whether the people on your list have been playing since the 1980s or only since last week, Nintendo has you covered. The Wii™, Nintendo DS™ and Nintendo DSi™ systems have a huge selection of games for everyone on your list, including many that you won't find anywhere else.

"This extensive lineup will keep players busy throughout the fall and into 2010," said Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of Sales & Marketing. "Shoppers know that Nintendo offers fun for everyone in the household."

Upcoming Nintendo-published games for the Wii console include Wii Fit™ Plus (Oct. 4) and New Super Mario Bros.™ Wii (holiday 2009). These games will join the current hot seller, Wii Sports Resort™, which comes with the new precision-control Wii MotionPlus™ accessory. Fans of portable games will enjoy Pokémon™ Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky (Oct. 12), Style Savvy™ (Nov. 2) and The Legend of Zelda™: Spirit Tracks (Dec. 7) in addition to the just-released Mario & Luigi™: Bowser's Inside Story, all playable on both Nintendo DS and Nintendo DSi systems.

The changing autumn leaves will be in good company with some new colors for the Nintendo DSi system and the Wii Remote™ and Nunchuk™ controllers. New White and Pink Nintendo DSi systems made their debut on Sept. 13, while a Black Wii Remote controller and Wii MotionPlus accessory package will be available this holiday season. A Black version of the Nunchuk controller will be sold separately as well.

Third-party publishers are supporting Nintendo platforms with impressive quality and wide-ranging titles. Wii exclusives like Dead Space™ Extraction from Electronic Arts and FINAL FANTASY® CRYSTAL CHRONICLES®: THE CRYSTAL BEARERS® from Square Enix will provide thrills that can't be found elsewhere. At the same time, Nintendo DS owners are anxiously awaiting another powerhouse release: KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 DAYS from Square Enix. And Activision's Band Hero™, available on both Wii and Nintendo DS, features compelling interactivity between the two hardware systems through wireless connectivity.

Below is a partial list of upcoming games for Wii, the WiiWare™ service, Nintendo DS and the Nintendo DSiWare™ service. Note that game titles and launch dates are subject to change.

Wii

2K Sports
NHL® 2K10 - Sept. 15
Baseball Blast! - Sept. 28
NBA 2K10 - Oct. 6

2K Play
Dora the Explorer™: Dora Saves the Crystal Kingdom™ - Fall
Ni Hao, Kai-Lan: Super Game Day - Fall
Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey™ Circus - Fall

505 Games
My Ballet Studio - November
Baby and Me - November

Activision Publishing, Inc.
Animal Planet Vet Life - Sept. 15
Marvel™: Ultimate Alliance 2™ - Sept. 15
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010 - Sept. 22
Rapala We Fish - Sept. 22
Bakugan® Battle Brawlers ™ - Oct. 20
iCarly™ - Oct. 20
Madagascar Kartz - Oct. 20
Mountain Sports - Oct. 20
Hidden Mysteries Titanic - Oct. 27
Barbie™ and the Three Musketeers - Oct. 27
Jurassic Hunter - Oct. 27
DJ Hero™ - Oct. 27
Chaotic™: Shadow Warriors - Nov. 10
Hot Wheels™ Battle Force 5™ - Nov. 10
Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare®: Reflex - Nov. 10
Tony Hawk®: RIDE™ - Nov. 17
Band Hero™ - November
Guitar Hero® Van Halen® - Dec. 22

Aspyr Media
My Baby and Me - Nov. 17

Atlus U.S.A., Inc.
101-in-1 Party Megamix™ - Oct. 27
Trauma Team™ - Spring
Shiren the Wanderer™ - Spring

Capcom® Entertainment, Inc.
Spyborgs™ - Sept. 22
Resident Evil®: The Darkside Chronicles - Nov. 17

City Interactive USA, Inc.
Chicken Riot - November
Combat Wings: The Great Battles of WWII - January
Art of Murder - March

D3Publisher
Family Party: 30 Great Games™ Outdoor Fun - Sept. 22
Astro Boy®: The Video Game - Oct. 20
THE SECRET SATURDAYS™: BEASTS OF THE 5TH SUN - Oct. 20
BEN 10 ALIEN FORCE™: Vilgax Attacks - Oct. 27
Kamen Rider Dragon Knight - Winter

Destineer
We Wish You A Merry Christmas - Oct. 13
Buck Fever - Oct. 20
Alien Monster Bowling League - Oct. 27
Marines: Modern Urban Combat - Nov. 3
Satisfashion - Nov. 17
Rec Room - Nov. 17

Disney Interactive Studios
Disney Sing It: Pop Hits - October
Princess and the Frog - November

Electronic Arts
MySims™ Agents - Sept. 22
Dead Space™ Extraction - Sept. 29
Spore™ Hero - Oct. 6
CHARM GIRLS CLUB™ Pajama Party - Oct. 20
SimAnimals™ Africa - Oct. 26
LITTLEST PET SHOP™ FRIENDS - October
NERF 2: "N-Strike"™ Elite - October
HASBRO FAMILY GAME NIGHT 2 - October
FIFA 10 - October
Need for Speed™ Nitro - Nov. 17
EA SPORTS Active™ More Workouts - November

Knowledge Adventure
JumpStart® Escape from Adventure Island - Nov. 1

Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
Walk It Out! - October
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories - November
Storybook Workshop - November
Karaoke Revolution - November
Ultimate Party Challenge - November
DanceDanceRevolution Hottest Party 3 - November
pop'n music - November
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 - Q4

LucasArts
Star Wars® The Clone Wars™: Republic Heroes™ - Oct. 6
LEGO® Indiana Jones 2™: The Adventure Continues - Fall

Majesco Entertainment
Our House: Party! - Sept. 22
A Boy and His Blob - Oct. 13
Jillian Michaels Fitness Ultimatum 2010 - Oct. 20
Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel - Dec. 1
The Daring Game for Girls - Holiday

Mastiff
Shimano Xtreme Fishing - Sept. 29
Remington Great American Bird Hunt - Oct. 27

NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc
Dragon Ball®: Revenge of King Piccolo - October
Food Network: Cook or Be Cooked - November
We Cheer™ 2 - November

Nintendo
Wii Fit Plus - Oct. 4
New Super Mario Bros. Wii - Holiday

Playlogic
Sudoku Ball Detective - Sept. 22

SEGA®
Wacky World of Sports™ - Sept. 22
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games™ - Oct. 13
Planet 51 - Nov. 17
Jambo! Safari:™ Animal Rescue - Q4
Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing™ - Feb. 10
Super Monkey Ball Step & Roll™ - Early 2010

SouthPeak Games
My Baby First Steps™ - Holiday
Sushi Go Round™ - Holiday

Square Enix
FINAL FANTASY® CRYSTAL CHRONICLES®: THE CRYSTAL BEARERS® - Dec. 26

Storm City Games
The Island of Dr. Frankenstein - Oct. 6
Vegas Party - Oct. 27
Bermuda Triangle: Saving the Coral - Nov. 9

Tecmo
Family Fun Football™ - Sept. 29

THQ
The Biggest Loser - Oct. 6
Cars Race O Rama - Oct. 13
Marvel® Super Hero Squad™ - Oct. 20
WWE® SmackDown® vs. Raw® 2010 - Oct. 20
SpongeBob Truth or Square - Oct. 26
Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader: Game Time - Oct. 26
World of Zoo™ - Oct. 26
All Star Cheer Squad™ 2 - Oct. 27
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter - Oct. 27
Daniel X - Jan. 12
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars - Feb. 2

TOMY Corporation
NARUTO™ Shippuden: Clash of Ninja® Revolution 3 - Nov. 17

Ubisoft
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs™ - Sept. 15
Where's Waldo®: The Fantastic Journey - Sept. 22
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles™: Smash-up - Sept. 22
The Price is Right ® 2010 Edition - Sept. 22
Family Feud® 2010 Edition - Sept. 29
CSI™: Deadly Intent - Oct. 20
Monster 4x4™ Stunt Racer - Oct. 27
Rabbids Go Home™ - Nov. 3
Academy of Champions™ - Nov. 3
Shaun White Snowboarding: World Stage - Nov. 8
Just Dance™ - Nov. 17
James Cameron's Avatar™ The Game - Nov. 24
Your Shape™ Featuring Jenny McCarthy - Nov. 24

UFO Interactive Games, Inc.
Army Rescue™ - Sept. 29
Rock Blast ™ - Oct. 20
Arcade Shooter: Ilvelo - Oct. 27
Geon Cube - Oct. 27
Smart Series Presents: JaJa' Adventure - Nov. 10

Vir2L® Studios
Medieval Games™ - Oct. 20

Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Scooby-Doo™! First Frights - Sept. 22
Where the Wild Things Are - Oct. 13
Game Party® 3 - October
LEGO® Rock Band™ - Holiday
SCENE IT?® BRIGHT LIGHTS! BIG SCREEN!™ - Holiday

XSEED Games
JU-ON: The Grudge - Oct. 13
Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga - Fall

WiiWare

Aksys Games
BIT.TRIP VOID - Q3
BIT.TRIP series (3 additional titles) - Q4, Q1

Broken Rules
And Yet It Moves - Q4

Frontier
LostWinds: Winter of the Melodias - Q4

Gameloft
Ghost Mansion Party - Q3
The Oregon Trail - Q4

Ghostfire Games
Rage of the Gladiator - Q1

Incredible Technologies
Carnival King - Q3

Konami
Castlevania: The Adventure Rebirth - Q3
Frogger Returns - Q4

Nabi Studios
Toribash - Q4

Natsume
Moki Moki - Q3
Harvest Moon: My Little Shop - Q4

Nicalis
Cave Story - Q3
Night Game - Q1
La Mulana - Q1

NinjaBee
The Amazing Brain Train - Q4

Nintendo
You, Me, and the Cubes™ - Q3
Eco Shooter: Plant 530™ - Q4

Nintendo/TPC
Pokémon™ Rumble - Q4

Press Play
Max & the Magic Marker - Q4

React Games
Archon: Classic - Q1

Taito
Arkanoid Plus! - Q3

Team Meat
Super Meat Boy - Q1

Telltale Games
Tales of Monkey Island™: Lair of the Leviathan - Q3
Tales of Monkey Island™: The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood - Q4
Tales of Monkey Island™: Rise of the Pirate God - Q4

Nintendo DS/Nintendo DSi

2K Play
Dora the Explorer: Dora Puppy - Oct. 26
Ni Hao, Kai-Lan: New Year's Celebration - Oct. 26
The Backyardigans - Oct. 26
Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus - Fall

505 Games
My Ballet Studio - November
Discovery Kids SpiderQuest - November
Dream Diary - November
Picture Perfect Hair Salon - November
IL2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey - Sept. 15

Activision Publishing, Inc.
Marvel™: Ultimate Alliance 2™ - Sept. 15
Animal Planet Vet Life - Sept. 15
Bakugan ® Battle Brawlers ™ - Oct. 20
iCarly™ - Oct. 20
Madagascar Kartz - Oct. 20
Barbie™ and the Three Musketeers - Oct. 27
Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare®: Mobilized - Nov. 10
Chaotic™: Shadow Warriors - Nov. 10
Hot Wheels™ Battle Force 5™ - Nov. 10
Band Hero™ - November

Aspyr Media
Fighting Fantasy™: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain - Oct. 26

City Interactive USA, Inc.
Sushi Academy - Oct. 13
Chronicles of Mystery: Curse of the Ancient Temple - Oct. 27
Animal Country: Life on the Farm - November
Party Designer - November
Art of Murder - February
Jewels of Sahara - March

D3Publisher
Astro Boy®: The Video Game - Oct. 20
THE SECRET SATURDAYS™: BEASTS OF THE 5TH SUN - Oct. 20
BEN 10 ALIEN FORCE™: Vilgax Attacks - Oct. 27
Kamen Rider Dragon Knight - Winter

Destineer
Satisfashion - Nov. 17

Disney Interactive Studios
Disney Fairies: Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure - October
Disney's A Christmas Carol - November
JONAS - November
Princess and the Frog - November

Electronic Arts
MySims™ Agents - Sept. 22
Spore™ Hero Arena - Oct. 6
CHARM GIRLS CLUB™ My Fashion Show - Oct. 20
CHARM GIRLS CLUB™ My Fashion Mall - Oct. 20
CHARM GIRLS CLUB™ My Perfect Prom - Oct. 20
SimAnimals™ Africa - Oct. 26
LITTLEST PET SHOP™ CITY FRIENDS - October
LITTLEST PET SHOP™ COUNTRY FRIENDS - October
LITTLEST PET SHOP™ BEACH FRIENDS - October
HASBRO FAMILY GAME NIGHT 2 - October
FIFA 10 - October

Ignition Entertainment
Nostalgia - Oct. 20

Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
WireWay - November

LucasArts
Star Wars® The Clone Wars™: Republic Heroes™ - Oct. 6
Star Wars Battlefront™: Elite Squadron™ - Nov. 3
LEGO® Indiana Jones 2™: The Adventure Continues - Fall

Majesco Entertainment
Our House - Sept. 22
Sideswiped - Sept. 29
Cake Mania® 3 - Oct. 13
Jillian Michaels Fitness Ultimatum 2010 - Oct. 20
Cooking Mama 3: Shop and Chop - Oct. 27
My Hero: Astronaut - Nov. 3
Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel - Dec. 1
Dawn of Heroes - Dec. 1
My Hero: Firefighter - December
The Daring Game for Girls - Holiday

NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc
Dragon Ball® Z: Attack of the Saiyans - November

Nintendo
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky - Oct. 12
Style Savvy - Nov. 2
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks - Dec. 7

NIS America
A Witch's Tale - Oct. 6
Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island - Oct. 27

PopCap Games, Inc.
Bookworm™ - Dec. 1

SEGA®
Bleach:™ The 3rd Phantom - Sept. 15
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games™ - Oct. 13
Phantasy Star™ Zero - Nov. 10
Planet 51 - Nov. 17
Jambo! Safari:™ Animal Rescue - Q4
Sands of Destruction™ - January
Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing™ - February
Infinite Space™ - Spring

SouthPeak Games
Montessori Music™ - Oct. 20
My Baby First Steps™ - Holiday
Sushi Go Round™ - Holiday
Crime Scene™ - Holiday

Square Enix
KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 DAYS - Sept. 29
SPACE INVADERS EXTREME™ 2 - Oct. 20

Storm City Games
Hands On! Tangrams - Oct. 13
Jewel Master Egypt - Oct. 20
Flaw - Oct. 27
Foto Frenzy - Nov. 2
Bermuda Triangle: Saving the Coral - Nov. 9

THQ
James Patterson Women's Murder Club: Games of Passion - Sept. 15
Fabulous Finds - Sept. 21
Just in Time Translations - Sept. 21
The Biggest Loser - Oct. 6
Cars Race O Rama - Oct. 13
Marvel® Super Hero Squad™ - Oct. 20
WWE® SmackDown® vs. Raw® 2010 - Oct. 20
Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader: Game Time - Oct. 26
World of Zoo™ - Oct. 26
SpongeBob Truth or Square - Oct. 26
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter - Oct. 27
MX vs. ATV™ Reflex™ - Holiday

TOMY Corporation
NARUTO Shippuden: Ninja Destiny 2 - Sept. 15

Ubisoft
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs™ - Sept. 15
Where's Waldo®: The Fantastic Journey - Sept. 22
The Price is Right® 2010 Edition - Sept. 22
Family Feud® 2010 Edition - Sept. 29
Battle of Giants™: Dragons - Sept. 29
Imagine® Salon Stylist - Sept. 29
Imagine® Sweet 16 - Oct. 4
Imagine® Zookeeper - Oct. 6
PETZ® PONY BEAUTY PAGEANT™ - Oct. 13
Imagine® Fashion Designer World Tour - Oct. 20
CSI™: Deadly Intent - The Hidden Cases - Oct. 20
Jam Sessions 2 - Oct. 20
PETZ® DOLPHINZ ENCOUNTER - Oct. 27
Might and Magic® Clash of Heroes® - Oct. 27
Imagine® Artist - Oct. 27
C.O.P. The Recruit™ - Nov. 3
Rabbids Go Home™ - Nov. 3
Imagine® Babyz Fashion - Nov. 3
Fairyland Melody Magic™ - Nov. 8
Style Lab™ Jewelry Design - Nov. 10
Style Lab™ Makeover - Nov. 10
PETZ® NURSERY - Nov. 10
PETZ® DOGZ® TALENT SHOW - Nov. 17
PETZ® HAMSTERZ® SUPERSTARZ - Nov. 24
James Cameron's Avatar™ The Game - Nov. 24

Virtual Play Games
Junior Brain Trainer - Nov. 10
Junior Classic Games - Nov. 10

UFO Interactive Games, Inc.
Smart Boy's Gameroom 2® - Sept. 29
Smart Girl's Playhouse 2® - Sept. 29
Smart Kid's Mega Game Mix™ - Sept. 29
Reversal Challenge - Oct. 13
Balloon Pop - Nov. 12

Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Scribblenauts™ - Sept. 15
Scooby-Doo™! First Frights - Sept. 22
LEGO® Rock Band™ - Holiday
Where the Wild Things Are - Oct. 13
TouchMaster® 3 - Oct. 27

XSEED Games
THE WIZARD OF OZ™: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road - Sept. 29

Nintendo DSiWare

Gameloft
Uno - Q4

Hudson Entertainment
Bomberman Blitz - Q4

Nintendo
Art Academy™: Second Semester - Sept. 28
Art Style™: DIGIDRIVE™ - Q4
Electroplankton™ (10 titles total) - Q4
Picturebook Games™: The Royal Bluff - Q4
Pinball Pulse: The Ancients Beckon™ - Q4
Sparkle Snapshots™ - Q4

Subatomic Studios
Fieldrunners - Q4

WayForward Technologies
Shantae:Risky's Revenge - Q4

Remember that Wii and the Nintendo DS systems feature parental controls that let adults manage some of the content their children can access. For more information about these and other features, visit Wii.com, www.NintendoDS.com and www.NintendoDSi.com.

For more information about Nintendo, visit www.Nintendo.com.

About Nintendo: The worldwide pioneer in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co., Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its Wii™, Nintendo DS™ and Nintendo DSi™ systems. Since 1983, when it launched the Nintendo Entertainment System™, Nintendo has sold more than 3.1 billion video games and more than 526 million hardware units globally, including the current-generation Wii, Nintendo DS and Nintendo DSi, as well as the Game Boy™, Game Boy Advance, Super NES™, Nintendo 64™ and Nintendo GameCube™ systems. It has also created industry icons that have become well-known, household names such as Mario™, Donkey Kong™, Metroid™, Zelda™ and Pokémon™. A wholly owned subsidiary, Nintendo of America Inc., based in Redmond, Wash., serves as headquarters for Nintendo's operations in the Western Hemisphere. For more information about Nintendo, visit the company's Web site at www.Nintendo.com.

Oh.... there it is.

source: http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=20008
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 03:48:24 PM »
I am overwhelmed by this mountain of CASUAL CRAP.

And a bunch of items are slated for 2010, making it misleading.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 03:53:26 PM »
I am overwhelmed by this mountain of CASUAL CRAP.

And a bunch of items are slated for 2010, making it misleading.

Yes, because you are "TEH HARDCORZ"


This is fairly interesting. There are some good titles on that list.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 03:58:08 PM »
Yeah, like a cherry on a mudpie.  Example, Silent Hill looks awkward surrounded by the other Konami titles.

All these wastes of projects could've been scrapped in favor of reviving old PSX franchises.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2009, 04:16:59 PM »
Seriously?  You're going to include stuff like Dora the Explorer, The Price is Right, and the infamous PETZ?  I'm sure if I just did a big dump of all third party PS3 games it would be of similar or maybe even greater size, and it's the last place console.

Remember when Nintendo's mantra was "quality over quantity"?  I guess because this mantra is no longer convenient when defending Nintendo we don't use it anymore?  All that matters for third party support is what you got.  Not how much but what.  Whoever has the best third party games has the best third party support and that ain't the Wii.

Yeah Nintendo is just going to list a big blob of everything but they're trying to sell us a product.  It's in their best interest to pretend all these games are equal and worthy of our purchase.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2009, 04:38:23 PM »
I want Silent Hill, COD4, and maybe Darkside Chronicles. That seems like a full four months to me.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 04:41:12 PM »
I'm sure the recession-opressed GOTTA COLLECT THEM ALL man is going to have a fit having seen that list.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 04:42:21 PM »
Seriously?  You're going to include stuff like Dora the Explorer, The Price is Right, and the infamous PETZ?  I'm sure if I just did a big dump of all third party PS3 games it would be of similar or maybe even greater size, and it's the last place console.

Remember when Nintendo's mantra was "quality over quantity"?  I guess because this mantra is no longer convenient when defending Nintendo we don't use it anymore?  All that matters for third party support is what you got.  Not how much but what.  Whoever has the best third party games has the best third party support and that ain't the Wii.

Yeah Nintendo is just going to list a big blob of everything but they're trying to sell us a product.  It's in their best interest to pretend all these games are equal and worthy of our purchase.

It's not Nintendo fault that publishers want to put game like petz or whatever. Third parties just think that those titles will sell.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2009, 05:20:54 PM »
Boy and His Blob, TMNT: Smash Up, Silent Hill, Rabbids Go Home, Dead Space Extraction, Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga,  Ju On (We'll see about that, but Xseed hasn't disappointed me) so far)Darkside Chronicles, no doubt I'm missing some others. If you can't find a game you can enjoy out of that list, chances are the problem is with you, not with 3rd parties. Also people need to go back and look at the PS2 releases and see there was a ton of crap on PS2 that was shoveled out there, it happens ALL THE TIME with the market leader.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2009, 05:42:19 PM »
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Also people need to go back and look at the PS2 releases and see there was a ton of crap on PS2 that was shoveled out there, it happens ALL THE TIME with the market leader.

My beef is less the presence of crap and more the absence of quality.  I find third party Wii games that are exclusive, exceptional, and are not a gimmicky waggle-fest spinoff of a PS360 game are very rare.  The best third parties are releasing their best games on the other consoles and not the Wii.  Since the Wii is the clear market leader I don't consider that acceptable.  The PS2 got a lot of crap but it also got the best of the best as well.  GOTY calibre third party games that didn't show up on the PS2 were very rare.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2009, 05:45:19 PM »
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Remember when Nintendo's mantra was "quality over quantity"?  I guess because this mantra is no longer convenient when defending Nintendo we don't use it anymore?

Where has Nintendo themselves not done this?  They've only got two titles up there, one of which is a new 2-D console Mario and an addition pack for Wii Fit that's only $20 by itself or with the balance board that's the same price as the original.  They don't have a lot up there, mainly because they don't like announcing delays to things only tentatively slated.

So because some third parties still decide to flood Nintendo's hardware with shovelware that won't sell (which it won't, like almost all of the dreck that they've published,) It's somehow Nintendo's fault.  Nintendo didn't point a gun to their heads and say "make garbage."

But, I do ask, how is Nintendo supposed to stop this sort of behavior? Set restrictions on the amount of games third parties can release in a year?  Or say, alter the content of the games, ironically this time to add matoor theemz?

And speaking of lost mantras, what happened to "Nintendo must appeal to the mainstream consumer"?

Or another lost mantra, "We will support the market leader."  Loads of companies had that as their mantra.  What happened around 2006 that changed all that?
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2009, 05:50:49 PM »
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Also people need to go back and look at the PS2 releases and see there was a ton of crap on PS2 that was shoveled out there, it happens ALL THE TIME with the market leader.

My beef is less the presence of crap and more the absence of quality.  I find third party Wii games that are exclusive, exceptional, and are not a gimmicky waggle-fest spinoff of a PS360 game are very rare.  The best third parties are releasing their best games on the other consoles and not the Wii.  Since the Wii is the clear market leader I don't consider that acceptable.  The PS2 got a lot of crap but it also got the best of the best as well.  GOTY calibre third party games that didn't show up on the PS2 were very rare.

The Wii userbase is not very accepting of involving time-consuming IP's. That much is obvious now.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 05:52:47 PM »
There's enough quality games in the list to keep me busy, and overall, the quality games on this list are better than the ones on other consoles.  For me, no need to pick up another console still.  Maybe someday.  Not yet.

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 06:06:22 PM »
I'm sure the recession-opressed GOTTA COLLECT THEM ALL man is going to have a fit having seen that list.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 06:57:59 PM »
If you can't find a game you can enjoy out of that list, chances are the problem is with you, not with 3rd parties.

I agree.

This is just from the 3rd party Wii list that will be at retail

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2K Sports
NHL® 2K10 - Sept. 15

Activision Publishing, Inc.
Marvel™: Ultimate Alliance 2™ - Sept. 15
Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare®: Reflex - Nov. 10
Tony Hawk®: RIDE™ - Nov. 17
Guitar Hero® Van Halen® - Dec. 22

Atlus U.S.A., Inc.
Trauma Team™ - Spring

Capcom® Entertainment, Inc.
Spyborgs™ - Sept. 22
Resident Evil®: The Darkside Chronicles - Nov. 17

Electronic Arts
MySims™ Agents - Sept. 22
Dead Space™ Extraction - Sept. 29
Spore™ Hero - Oct. 6
Need for Speed™ Nitro - Nov. 17

Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories - November
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 - Q4

LucasArts
Star Wars® The Clone Wars™: Republic Heroes™ - Oct. 6
LEGO® Indiana Jones 2™: The Adventure Continues - Fall

Majesco Entertainment
A Boy and His Blob - Oct. 13

SEGA®
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games™ - Oct. 13
Super Monkey Ball Step & Roll™ - Early 2010

Square Enix
FINAL FANTASY® CRYSTAL CHRONICLES®: THE CRYSTAL BEARERS® - Dec. 26

THQ
Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter - Oct. 27

Ubisoft
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles™: Smash-up - Sept. 22
Rabbids Go Home™ - Nov. 3
Shaun White Snowboarding: World Stage - Nov. 8

XSEED Games
JU-ON: The Grudge - Oct. 13

Those are the potentially quality games across all different publishers and different genres.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2009, 07:07:35 PM »
Barbie™ and the Three Musketeers will be game of the year... lol
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 07:08:41 PM »
You're already pre-ordered it, so it must be true.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 07:08:51 PM »
Yeah lots of promising titles, this is a good and DIVERSE year for 3rd party software this winter. Already we have had the stunning Muramasa and the seemingly solid Cursed Mountain. Basically there appears to be a game for every kind of gaming taste, UNLIKE the other consoles which are pretty much centered on the shooter side of things (Only Dragon Age interests me and I'll get that on the PC).
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2009, 07:10:22 PM »
Yeah lots of promising titles, this is a good and DIVERSE year for 3rd party software this winter. Already we have had the stunning Muramasa and the seemingly solid Cursed Mountain. Basically there appears to be a game for every kind of gaming taste, UNLIKE the other consoles which are pretty much centered on the shooter side of things (Only Dragon Age interests me and I'll get that on the PC).

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 07:25:30 PM »
But before everybody piles on Ian (I jumped on ya for cover, dude!), he is right about the list being unacceptable for the market leader.

The list (BlacknMild's revision) is alright, really, but that's it's problem.  It's just "alright."  Wii owners are quite a diverse lot, and really that means it should have a diverse selection of multiple titles from each genre.  Nintendo somehow even has less games for the last half of the year than last year.  It's seriously just Mario and Wii Fit (along with their recent releases), both assured hits and both Bonafide efforts, but still just two.  The field is WIDE OPEN.  If third parties won't do it THIS Year, then it can really be said that no amount of Nintendo's bending over backwards for them will ever convince them, and they should commit 10% of their accrued profit to making all the games themselves.  (Which they might do at their October Conference.)
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2009, 07:28:54 PM »
A lot of good their last year's Octoburcasualfest did.
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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2009, 07:29:29 PM »
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Where has Nintendo themselves not done this?  They've only got two titles up there, one of which is a new 2-D console Mario and an addition pack for Wii Fit that's only $20 by itself or with the balance board that's the same price as the original.  They don't have a lot up there, mainly because they don't like announcing delays to things only tentatively slated.

In this case I mean the mantra from the perspective of Nintendo fans instead of Nintendo themselves.  When Nintendo was pushing the "quality over quantity" line (which was all PR spin anyway) many Nintendo fans emphasized this when the comparison of the amount of games between a Nintendo console and a competitor came up.  So for a Nintendo fan to just dump a big list of games, quality be damned, as a defense against criticism of poor Wii third party support it's a major contridiction of the attitude that so many Nintendo fans had for so many years.  If quality over quantity was important to us then why is not so important now?

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But, I do ask, how is Nintendo supposed to stop this sort of behavior?

I don't know.  But it doesn't come across that they really care as long as Wii's fly off shelves.  Last gen the third party was also quite poor, though understandable since the Cube had the smallest userbase.  While I don't think Nintendo was all that competent at addressing that issue they did at least appear to make some effort with the Resident Evil stuff, Crystal Chronicles, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes and Sega and Namco working on Nintendo games.  This gen there was Mario & Sonic at the Olympics and I think they did a press conference for Dragon Quest X but aside from that there isn't really anything else.  It's hard to say though because they're so damn secretive now we really don't know what they are or aren't doing.  They might consider this a priority but they aren't letting us know that.

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Or another lost mantra, "We will support the market leader."  Loads of companies had that as their mantra.  What happened around 2006 that changed all that?

Well Nintendo decided to change their target market.  They're the market leader of the casual games market, a market they win by default by being the only competitor.  The market leader of the old console market is Microsoft and they are getting the bulk of the third party support for the old videogame market.  The Wii gets the bulk of the casual game market third party support.

Because it's all videogames and it's all consoles it creates the impression that Nintendo is the market leader and thus deserving of the best third party support.  But it is effectively two markets, the casual one being the larger of the two and Nintendo having 100% of that market.  It's like how the DS is also a videogame machine but the portable market is considered different, which is why the GBA's huge third party support did not trickle down to the Gamecube.  A videogame company has four markets they can choose to provide product to: portable, console, PC, casual (and in Japan, arcade).  There is crossover and I think the PC and console markets are blending together but product that flies in one market is not necessarily going to take off in another.

So if you look at console gaming as being seperated into two markets the Wii is actually getting very good third party support since it has a wide selection of casual focused videogames and is the first choice for any company making a casual game.  But I'm not a casual gamer and thus not the Wii's target market.  So from my perspective the third party support looks terrible.  But that makes sense.  I don't complain that games like Bioshock don't appear on the DS.  They're not supposed to.

This is the only logical explaination I can think of as to why third parties appear to treat the Wii so poorly.  I think the Wii and the other consoles are close enough in what they provide that the Wii should still be the de facto choice.  I disagree with most third parties but I can understand why they would use this logic.  They may not see that big amount of Wii users as potential buyers for the type of product they make for the old market.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2009, 07:34:26 PM »
Yeah Nintendo is just going to list a big blob of everything but they're trying to sell us a product.  It's in their best interest to pretend all these games are equal and worthy of our purchase.
Not all these games are targeted towards you.

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Notice how it doesn't read:

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Just remember that what you call 'crap' maybe what someone else is interested in.  And to Nintendo, their dollars are worth just as much as yours.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2009, 07:38:28 PM »
Guitar Smasher, I think Ian's post just went over that point in depth.  Just a little.

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Re: Where is all the 3rd Party support for Nintendo consoles?
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2009, 08:25:01 PM »
That's kind of a depressing list, actually. There are a few games which interest me but the only one I know I'll be getting right away is New Super Mario Brothers Wii.

And I can't believe there is a Game Party 3. Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but still...