Author Topic: 2-3 times powerful (Read 40229 times)

MysticGohan · « **Reply #100 on:** January 15, 2007, 05:56:34 AM »

In TP in the Sacred Grove Temple, That Boss is quite the most realistic looking Tarantula I've seen, cept for that eye on it's back. But you get the idea :p

IceCold · « **Reply #101 on:** January 15, 2007, 06:02:07 AM »

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Icecold the grfx look fantastic, the pic is ugly to me cuz I HATE spiders thats all. I would rpefer a pic with NO spioders to show off the gfx is what i was saying

You're forgiven then

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #102 on:** January 15, 2007, 08:25:11 AM »

That isn't a spider in that screenshot. Count the legs. Observe the colors, stripes, and wings. It looks like a bee to me.

Arbok · « **Reply #103 on:** January 15, 2007, 08:32:09 AM »

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Can't believe ANYONE can think that pic of the spider from SMG looks ugly, the thing looks almost CGI esque.

Exactly. Galaxy's graphics really impress me, personally... I just wish that more games were up to snuff with it. It's quite clear the Wii is able, just not many developers are pushing it.

ThePerm · « **Reply #104 on:** January 15, 2007, 12:26:05 PM »

what i cant believe is ages bumped this thread to comment on Rats spelling, i leave for a few days to move into my new apartment and someone takes over as forum thread necromancer.

I have seen the power of the wii within a couple of days of moving it to my new apartment, all my roommates cant stop playing wii sports, no one is really playing the ps3 here. We have one but it is just not as fun. My friend from out of town came over and played, i didn't even have to be the one to do the conversion. They did it. I was still unpacking(i had more stuff because i was the only one still living in town)

ShyGuy · « **Reply #105 on:** May 10, 2007, 10:25:50 AM »

Ngai investigates criticisms

Good article about Wii power.

"Math is hard"

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #106 on:** May 10, 2007, 11:16:15 AM »

WISE FWUM YOW GWAAAAVE

mantidor · « **Reply #107 on:** May 10, 2007, 11:45:52 AM »

I read that thing twice and I still don't see what standard/measurement/whatever they used to say the xbox is more powerful, they didn't even mention xbox numbers at all. It goes into saying that the console can emulate the "next gen" effects of 360/ps3 and then it jumps and says "the guy was somewhat right" without anything in the middle, basically it concludes the wii is less powerful than the xbox because the wii can emulate 360/ps3 shaders or something, WTF!? what a crappy article.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #108 on:** May 10, 2007, 12:07:56 PM »

Xbox had shaders built into gpu hardware. Wii does them in software. Developers are too lazy to write them in software.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #109 on:** May 10, 2007, 12:08:30 PM »

That's what I got out of it, too, Mantidor. I don't think they had a clear purpose in mind when they sat down and wrote the article. As far as I know, I saw that when developers actually tried on the Cube, they could get a whole lot out of it, as much, or even greater than most high-end Xbox games. Heck, look at Pikmin. That many active AI's in such a beautiful environment didn't happen on the Xbox, as far as I recall. So really, if the Cube was nearly as powerful as the Xbox (or just as powerful when used properly), and the Wii is a good bit more powerful than the Cube, then of course the Wii is more powerful than the Xbox.

On a side note, I'm not surprised he was saying the Wii could produce games almost as powerful as the PS3 and 360. My current hypothesis is that regardless of actual capabilities, developers are only going to push graphics as far as they are expected to on a system-to-system basis. I don't think the Cube and Xbox ever really got used too their full strength last generation by anyone, because it's cheaper and more profitable for developers not to. I think the same is probably true to this gen too, only worse, because it will cost so much more cash monies to produce a game that really takes advantage of what any of the systems have to offer, including the Wii.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #110 on:** May 10, 2007, 12:12:11 PM »

I don't care about all the hardware mumbo jumbo, all I care about is getting games that look at least on par with GC's best soon.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #111 on:** May 10, 2007, 12:34:11 PM »

We already got TP, and RE4's coming out next month!

Hooray!

Kairon · « **Reply #112 on:** May 10, 2007, 12:43:31 PM »

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Xbox had shaders built into gpu hardware. Wii does them in software. Developers are too lazy to write them in software.

The PS2 didn't support AA in hardware, they had to do it in software as well.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Mario · « **Reply #113 on:** May 10, 2007, 02:18:22 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I don't care about all the hardware mumbo jumbo, all I care about is getting games that look at least on par with PS2's best soon.

Fixed.

Kairon · « **Reply #114 on:** May 10, 2007, 02:28:56 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I don't care about all the hardware mumbo jumbo, all I care about is getting games that have quality art direction

Fixed.

Fixed.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #115 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:40:03 PM »

Sorry to bump this folks, but the Wii forum has been a bit slow lately. Perhaps if you people played something besides POKEMON.

I'll go make a thread about the awesome Ghost Squad k?

Kairon · « **Reply #116 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:09:32 PM »

Please do!

Kairon · « **Reply #117 on:** May 10, 2007, 05:41:19 PM »

Smoke beat you to the punch Shyguy. Anyone care to make a thread for Square's Chocobo Mystery Dungeons for the Wii?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #118 on:** May 10, 2007, 05:43:52 PM »

I'll hit that!

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #119 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:07:57 PM »

Wii is 2-3 times more powerful than Gamecube.

Why the hell haven't we seen it yet? I tell you, these first party titles coming out this year better look f**king gorgeous.

ThePerm · « **Reply #120 on:** May 10, 2007, 08:54:46 PM »

i just beat gears of war, and well i really didnt see the big leap between graphics, i mean if you take the best from resident evil 4,starfox and stuff it can be concluded that wii could do some great graphics if the effort was put in

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #121 on:** May 10, 2007, 09:04:52 PM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
Wii is 2-3 times more powerful than Gamecube.

Why the hell haven't we seen it yet? I tell you, these first party titles coming out this year better look f**king gorgeous.

Maybe I've been living in a hole, but isn't Super Mario Galaxy f**king gorgeous?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #122 on:** May 10, 2007, 09:33:00 PM »

' course not. Wii lacks hardware thingies and 128 layers of lazy nonshaders.

Kairon · « **Reply #123 on:** May 10, 2007, 10:33:51 PM »

There's one absolutely AMAZING LOOKING game that people keep forgetting when coming up with great looking GC titles: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Ian Sane · « **Reply #124 on:** May 11, 2007, 06:14:38 AM »

I find if a Nintendo first party game doesn't look that hot it usually is because of a lack of effort from Nintendo. For example of the Cube Super Mario Sunshine's Mario model looked worse than the SSBM model eventhough SSBM came out first. Super Mario Sunshine looked like a Dreamcast game. Then Nintendo took the graphics from Mario Sunshine and recycled them in pretty much every Mario spinoff. So more games were made with lazy graphics. But that had nothing to do with the hardware. On launch day Factor 5 demonstrated what the hardware was truly capable of if Nintendo put in the effort to make use of it and they did with Pikmin, the Zeldas, Metroid Prime, SSBM. With third parties it was the same way. Some quick PS2 port looked like crap but Resident Evil 4 and Rogue Leader looked great.

The reason Wii games so far don't look like anything beyond the Cube is because the effort just hasn't been there. Nintendo has mostly made non-games where they don't really put any effort into the graphics and the two big "gamer games" used to be Cube titles. Third parties also so far haven't really given the Wii their full attention yet. So we have to wait and see.

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