The ability for a 5th player to use the tablet controller to play as the 'stage.'  This could be a unskilled younger brother, someone mischievous, or the ref of your tournament.  They then control any hazards on the stage, can 'drop' in special items at key times and places, Draw platforms on a swapnote level, move platforms on a mario stage, maybe make some disappear.  Obviously, this could be a special mode or only work on certain levels, but it would be amazing.

I also want "skins" for characters (instead of clones).  Mario and Dr. Mario can both be mario w/ different skins.  Simple as that. 

Edit: Skins could be DLC. League of legends handles all alternate skins as DLC.  They're optional so it's optional to pay for them as well.  The rest of league of Legend's content can be acquired for free (including a new playable character every couple of weeks) if you rack up enough in-game currency.

As for my stage on wiipad idea, that, too, could be included in the online multiplayer :p

I'd also like new stuff to be added through DLC.  New mario game came out AFTER smash, but has some cool level concepts... DLC!  New nintendo IP released after new smash?  Characters become DLC!

I don't think you read the article.

Anyway, I expect voicechat to play a much bigger role in Wii U.

I'll finish reading in a minute, but I want to say something on Achievements.

If Nintendo just implements the achievement system in Kid Icarus: Uprising with toast notifications when you get them I think that would be excellent.  Each achievement unlocking at the very least a new part of a large overall picture and then some of those picture pieces have there own parts like music.  Think about your achievements from a Mario game openning up parts of a Mario Rube Goldberg Machine.  It be much more interesting then static trophies.  Something to show to friends who will know you got the achievements but not be able to see what they created.

That would be cool.  Now think about being able to explore a castle with your achievement widgets ala Mario 64 with your Mii if you didn't want to just do a gallery type of view.

How about the level uploading? I downloaded a ton of stages on brawl and I'd love to see that kind of stuff on the Wii U.

Maybe with mario kart or NSMB.

They could literally release the same game without tripping and an online system that actually works and i'd be completely happy.

That's pretty funny, considering tripping helps me in all instances and I've never had an issue with the online.

I always see people complaining about tripping, I guess I must have just had a different version of the game where I only tripped about once every 3 matches or so, it must suck playing the version most people had where you trip over every five seconds.

Also the online code for Brawl was junk, but I think that was mainly due to Nintendo's limited experience in online titles. I expect the new games to be far and away improved in this regard.

I think tripping was even more rare for me, like maybe 1 out of every 5 matches. And even when it happened it didn't really affect me.

Online play was perfectly fine for the first couple of months. I played it online every day for the first two months and only had problems like 3 times. It was only when I came back to it a few months later that I got the problems.

The article was referring to the potential for Wii U's online system as a whole, not the next Smash Bros games.  :D
Although always nice to hear ideas for that too!


@Ceric I haven't got K.I:U (yet?) but from what I've heard that achievement system sounds pretty hot.
Maybe Sakurai should just design the Wii U system-wide achievements system!!?


I just lament the fact that the modern systems are:
-Kill 10,000 enemies.
-OK, for what?
-10 achievement points.
-OK, that gives me what?
-A higher number than before.
-Oh great thanks.


SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION ALERT: My blog from 2009 on achievements.

Yeah, I've voiced my opinion on the current "Acheivement" and "Trophy" systems being pretty much the shallowest reason in the world to extend the playtime of a game. I'd rather unlock something that I can utilise within the game than just get a shiny badge for my online profile.

How can Nintendo hear the fans? Wii U and 3DS needs an achievement system, imagine getting achievements for retro games like Ocarina of Time or Mario World, that would be epic, and it would allow to play the game again even I had finished it a few times on my life, it would be cool to get some extra awards for doing so

Again, achievements are OPTIONAL. If you don't like them, don't try to unlock them. Compare them to high score tables. Those get you nothing either, they are there for the challenge.

There really not comparable. High scores can always be beaten or improved upon, they act as motivation to get better at a game. Achievements don't do this, we at least not more than once. After I have achieved this "Achievement" what further purpose does it serve? Nothing.

I wouldn't mind it if they would unify the friend codes.  I think I've heard it so that the next system will have a friend code and not the games themselves.  Now if, while on the WiiU, you could register your 3DS and see your friends online there as well would be pretty cool. 


Also the idea of being able to talk to your friends or send them messages while not playing the same game kind of like the Vita says it does.  Haven't used and don't plan on buy'n a Vita, but some of the features are kind of cool.  Nintendo is "basically" new to the online scene comparatively, but I think they are on the right track.  If they would send updates via online connection as they improve it even more as time goes on.  That would be pretty cool as well.

High scores and Achievements are not in the same category. Achievement points are basically incentives in a game that you can either try for, or perhaps stumble over while playing the game. High scores take dedication and long instances of playtime to master the game to make a noteworthy high score. Although I like Achieves, I find them mostly a waste of time. There is no incentive to get 100% with a game with achievements. Basically what the OC is stating with SSBB, that made it so unique was that it had unlockable achieves. Meaning these achieves could not only be scored incentives like Achievements, but they could also be ways to get DLC, or other miscellaneous things like Costumes, side quests, minigames, music, new characters, etc. The potential is vast and if Nintendo capitalizes on this, it would bring alot of people back to playing their games, since 90% of them are single player, non-online. Nintendo would be wise to follow Microsoft's lead with having user-based accounts and having them be able to see other friends online. Follow the silver/gold platform. Having silver be free and still able to play online, but unable to use things such as voice chat or free downloads on basic connection speeds. While gold would be like $29.99 for a year and be able to use all of the above and some additions to the side like better download rates and higher console-internet perception.

The frequency isn't my primary complaint.  It's that tripping exists in the game at all.  I understand Smash Bros is a (mostly) casual party/fighting game, but my experience was frustration when it occured, and it seemed like it added nothing valuable to the experience.

I'm glad your experience was better than mine.  I found tripping a nuisance, and seemed to have nothing but a chugging connection whenever I attempted to play online (the only game i've had this issue with).



I guess I'll just agree to disagree.  It wasn't a game breaking issue to me, but it definitely dectracted from the game experience for me.

I do like the idea of putting Voice Chat behind a pay wall in a way.  Wouldn't even have to be an expensive one.  Just enough to make people realized that its a privilege and not a right.