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Nintendo Direct: Planting the Seeds of Concern

by Alex Culafi - December 18, 2013, 5:37 pm PST
Total comments: 36

At least they didn't end it by ruining Mario again.

As a Nintendo fan who is often extremely critical of Nintendo, I had pretty low expectations for this monthly Direct (at least, they seem to be monthly now). I expected the big Nintendo Wii U Direct to come in January, I expected no more than one announcement, and I expected Mario Golf and Kirby to be their Spring releases. I ended up being wrong on at least two accounts, and when I'm wrong about Nintendo, it usually means they're doing something right. Here's the good, the bad, and the ugly of today's (North American) Nintendo Direct.

The Good

New Game Announcements: It ain't quite X or a Fire Emblem crossover, but Zelda Dynasty Warriors (under the working title Hyrule Warriors), NES Remix, and Dr. Luigi is way better than nothing. The first is a good opportunity for newcomers to try the Warriors series as well as the positive reassurance that Nintendo will allow other developers to give classic franchises a crack, and the latter two pad out the Wii U's eShop catalog for the near future.

Specifically, NES Remix: You are completely justified to be wary of the price tag, but I bought the game earlier today and can report that it's a lot of fun. The visuals look pretty sharp, and the mini-challenges are a good time and surprisingly plentiful (I estimate that the game probably has at least five hours of content). It feels like 9-Volt from WarioWare got his own game.

Sonic DLC: I kind of liked Lost World on Wii U despite its flaws, and the new Yoshi's Island level is pretty fun (as I'm sure the next Nintendo-based one will be). The YI level has the look of what I expect Yoshi Yarn to look like (very fabric-y) while featuring Shy Guys, collectible flowers, eggs, and a version of the Flower Garden song from the original game. Also, it's free!

Yoshi's Island Looks a Little Better: Yoshi's New Island came out of the gate looking a little rough thanks to its somewhat questionable new art style and the fact that the remnants of Artoon is making it, but I was pleased to find out that the game is at least being produced by YI creator Tezuka and is at least being partially made by the crew at EAD. I'll have more to say on this one in the coming days, but it looks like it could turn out to be an okay game.

The Bad

Kirby Triple Deluxe: Considering the game is coming out in January in Japan, I was hoping that the North American release date wouldn't be far behind. Unfortunately, the fact that it was given a vague 2014 release date makes me think this thing isn't going to hit before April, and it probably won't release until summer in the West (I know it was a spring Direct, but I'm imagining this as an Animal Crossing scenario). At the very least, the game continues to look great.

Kart Babies: For a character roster that needs as much diversity as it can get, I'm pretty disappointed that at least four of the playable selection is made up of baby characters. Unless there are 30 characters in the game, using playable baby characters seems like a lazy way to fill the roster out. I want Mario Kart, not Yoshi's Island DS Kart.

Rosalina: I don't know why Nintendo is under the impression that Rosalina is such an impressive character. Her first appearance as a character this year (I think you know the one) felt like it was shimmied into the game, her Mario Kart reveal today isn't even her first appearance, and likely a third of the Smash Bros. cast is now going to consist of characters either from the Mario series or spun-off from it.

The Ugly

Luigi's Mansion Diorama: They're charging 1500 coins for a Club Nintendo reward that should have been the Platinum prize all along. Instead, we get the soundtrack for a Zelda game that hasn't been properly re-released since the Wii virtual Console. Come on, Nintendo.

Where is Mario Golf?: This is not coming out in spring. It should, but it isn't.

Wii U Situation: Outside of the "plentiful" Dynasty Warriors fanbase, nothing in this presentation will sell a single Wii U. It's a nice presentation for those of us that own one, but none of these 33 minutes showed a side of Nintendo that was even remotely prepared to react to the desperate Wii U situation. Maybe in January...

Talkback

AdrockDecember 18, 2013

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Wii U Situation: Outside of the "plentiful" Dynasty Warriors fanbase, nothing in this presentation will sell a single Wii U.

For realsies? Not even Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U? Ehh, disagree.

This all seems pretty over-dramatic and nitpicky, but I suppose that comes with being an opinion piece.

I don't think Rosalina was really the point of the Mario Kart 8 trailer. They showed some really nice new tracks. The airport one looks especially insane in the membrane with the speed ramp and the plane flying overhead. Anyway, I really like the addition of Rosalina in Super Smash Bros. I think Sakurai approached the character in a way that most weren't expecting. She could have been to Peach what Luigi is to Mario in the series, but the addition of Luma is a nice twist.

The only thing that seemed "bad" per se was showing Hyrule Warriors, only due to how unpolished and early it looked. Comparatively to X earlier this year, it didn't look ready to be shown. X looked holy-shit.

BlackNMild2k1December 18, 2013

Glad I want the only one with the opinion on that Luigi diorama should have been a Platinum prize for this year in place of the bullshit choices they left us with.

ShyGuyDecember 18, 2013

Well I certainly cancelled my preorder!

Axe23December 18, 2013

"Rosalina: I don't know why Nintendo is under the impression that Rosalina is such an impressive character. Her first appearance as a character this year (I think you know the one) felt like it was shimmied into the game, her Mario Kart reveal today isn't even her first appearance, and likely a third of the Smash Bros. cast is now going to consist of characters either from the Mario series or spun-off from it."

Well, for one thing Rosalina is from one of the highest rated and best regarded Mario games ever made. For another her character design is TONS better than either Peach or Daisy. For a third, in that one game she had more character development than Peach has ever gotten over the ENTIRE series, not to mention her little story was actually very well written and sweet.

Anyway, I'm glad to see her getting more attention from Nintendo.

Luigi DudeDecember 18, 2013

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Rosalina: I don't know why Nintendo is under the impression that Rosalina is such an impressive character. Her first appearance as a character this year (I think you know the one) felt like it was shimmied into the game, her Mario Kart reveal today isn't even her first appearance, and likely a third of the Smash Bros. cast is now going to consist of characters either from the Mario series or spun-off from it.

She's a popular character among Mario fans who's been in enough recent games to be known by the general gaming pubic as well.  Just because we get some characters like the Ice Climbers and Wii Fit Trainer doesn't mean Sakurai just throws in whoever he wants.  He does take fan popularity and character request into account for many of the characters who get added and considering how popular Rosalina has become and the mostly positive her reveal has been, it looks like he was right to include her.

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Well I certainly cancelled my preorder!

The only reason I didn't announce that I was cancelling my Mario Kart pre-order was that I never pre-ordered it to begin with!

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Wii U Situation: Outside of the "plentiful" Dynasty Warriors fanbase, nothing in this presentation will sell a single Wii U.

For realsies? Not even Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. for Wii U? Ehh, disagree.

This all seems pretty over-dramatic and nitpicky, but I suppose that comes with being an opinion piece.

I don't think Rosalina was really the point of the Mario Kart 8 trailer. They showed some really nice new tracks. The airport one looks especially insane in the membrane with the speed ramp and the plane flying overhead. Anyway, I really like the addition of Rosalina in Super Smash Bros. I think Sakurai approached the character in a way that most weren't expecting. She could have been to Peach what Luigi is to Mario in the series, but the addition of Luma is a nice twist.

The only thing that seemed "bad" per se was showing Hyrule Warriors, only due to how unpolished and early it looked. Comparatively to X earlier this year, it didn't look ready to be shown. X looked holy-****.

Smash Bros and Mario Kart will sell some consoles, but they won't sell consoles because of this Direct.

broodwarsDecember 18, 2013

Well, I'm glad I didn't bother waking up to watch this snore-fest of a Direct, because if Rosalina in Smash Bros. and The Legend of Dynasty Warriors (ugh...) were the big headline announcements, it was a pretty crappy Direct.  In light of the recent rant against Mario; Mario; and MORE Mario on RFN, I find it depressing that Nintendo's big announcements this Direct were more Mario (Rosalina in Smash Bros., because if there's one thing Smash Bros. needs, it's more Mario characters); more Mario (Mario franchise baby characters in Mario Kart); more Mario (Dr. Luigi, because that was a thing people were clamoring for after such a ****ty Year of Luigi); and...more Mario (the Luigi's Mansion Club Nintendo Reward).

I look forward to the January Panic Nintendo Direct, but this "Please do not look at the Mario behind the Curtain" Direct was just more of what I already don't care about. Hopefully Nintendo actually shows up to play in the New Year.

AdrockDecember 18, 2013

Everything Nintendo does sucks. Nintendo is worst than poverty, cancer, and 9/11. Combined.

azekeDecember 18, 2013

I like videogames!

HairyChestDecember 18, 2013

This was not a video showcasing info from a company whos fighting for the existance of their home console. It was a video from a company whom seemed to ignore the facts of their situation and showcase software that is the bare minimum required for a consoles existance.


I was ready to cry out in a chant if they showed ANY of the following:


A proper HD mario (not a handheld sequal)
Zelda wii u video
Metroid 4
Majoras mask 3D
Starfox
Mariokart with other nintendo characters (like link and kid icarus)
N64 games on virtual console

WeetrickDecember 18, 2013

I completely disagree about Rosalina. She is my favorite character in 3D World (lol, is this really a spoiler?) and I think she looks interesting in Smash Bros. That whole Kirby/Kart/Smash trailer was confusing as hell though.

AdrockDecember 18, 2013

Quote from: HairyChest

This was not a video showcasing info from a company whos fighting for the existance of their home console. It was a video from a company whom seemed to ignore the facts of their situation and showcase software that is the bare minimum required for a consoles existance.


I was ready to cry out in a chant if they showed ANY of the following:


A proper HD mario (not a handheld sequal)
Zelda wii u video
Metroid 4
Majoras mask 3D
Starfox
Mariokart with other nintendo characters (like link and kid icarus)
N64 games on virtual console

You say, "this was not a video showcasing info from a company whos fighting for the existance of their home console," then most of the things you list fall into that same category, namely Majora's Mask 3D which wouldn't even be a Wii U game.

Also, Metroid 4 is Metroid Fusion.

Kytim89December 18, 2013

The writing is pretty much on the wall that the Wii U is not going to be the success that Nintendo and its fans wanted it be from the start. This being said, Nintendo should push as many high quality titles from their first and second party developers as humanly and financially possible. They need to do a little bit of money hatting. They need to bring back dormant franchises like Metroid. The Wii U should be home to so many quality titles that potential buyers have no choice but to buy it in order to play those games. Lastly, no more casual titles. Nintendo needs ten more games like X and Bayonetta 2. 

ShyGuyDecember 18, 2013

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I like videogames!

I like big budget cinematic interactive experiences... child

ciscodDecember 18, 2013

Give me a break... For a Nintendo based site, you really look for negatives... Several games announced, new info on upcoming games .... Sports club golf .... Not bad for a " monthly " type of presentation....  How often are Sony and Microsoft doing these types of announcement

broodwarsDecember 18, 2013

Quote from: ciscod

Give me a break... For a Nintendo based site, you really look for negatives... Several games announced, new info on upcoming games .... Sports club golf .... Not bad for a " monthly " type of presentation....  How often are Sony and Microsoft doing these types of announcement

Quite often. Ever heard of Major Nelson or the PlayStation Blog (w/ associated weekly podcast)?

EnnerDecember 18, 2013

I had fun watching the Direct live (even if Ustream crapped out for the NA stream).

It's the little things that made me happy: Chibi Robo 3DS coming to North America and the Bravely Default side-story demo. Also, I really like Rosalina so seeing her in Smash 4 and Mario Kart 8 is great for me.

azekeDecember 18, 2013

Quote from: ShyGuy

Quote from: azeke

I like videogames!

I like big budget cinematic interactive experiences... child

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Do you... Do you really?


HairyChestDecember 19, 2013

The list i wrote was what would make me happy about the nintendo direct, not the list of things that would make wii u a success.


By metroid 4 im talking about a mainline console metroid.  Not a handheld sequal.

AdrockDecember 19, 2013

Quote from: Enner

I had fun watching the Direct live (even if Ustream crapped out for the NA stream).

It's the little things that made me happy: Chibi Robo 3DS coming to North America and the Bravely Default side-story demo. Also, I really like Rosalina so seeing her in Smash 4 and Mario Kart 8 is great for me.

I rarely ever actually watch the entire Nintendo Direct. I'm usually at work so I read the news them just watch the trailers when I get home so I don't have to use data. I've had a few close calls in recent months where I almost went over 2 GB.

I'm almost always fairly content with what's shown in these things. I don't expect earth shattering news because those are typically reserved for GDC, E3 etc. Any new game, even something that doesn't immediately call to me such as Hyrule Warriors or NES Remix, is pretty interesting to me. I don't know if I'm simply easy to please or just have realistic expectations or maybe it's because I have more important things to think about, but my reactions are neutral to good. There's next to no hype for Nintendo Direct since Nintendo announces them a day or two in advance. They're mostly just updates and I remember when no company did these. Even further back, I had an EGM subscription before the Internet was so readily available and you wouldn't hear news for months. E3 was in May and the July/August issue would have all the news and pictures. I just think it's really neat that Nintendo even has Nintendo Directs so frequently.

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The list i wrote was what would make me happy about the nintendo direct, not the list of things that would make wii u a success.

So, just to be clear, if they announced any of those things, you'd be be happy yet you'd still have something to complain about since your list is not a list of things that would make Wii U a success. It just seems terribly inconsistent to essentially say Nintendo isn't doing enough in the Nintendo Direct to help Wii U, but then wish for things from the same Nintendo Direct like a Majora's Mask port that wouldn't actually help Wii U at all. That's a rigged game. Unless Nintendo announced something you want AND a variety of things for Wii U, you'd still be in here complaining about things. Fine.

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By metroid 4 im talking about a mainline console metroid.  Not a handheld sequal.

You can't just change what Metroid 4 is to suit your purposes.

SorenDecember 19, 2013

This Direct only reinforces the thoughts I've had recently that I should sell my Wii U and just go 3ds only. A new Zelda spinoff isn't going to get me hyped when I just finished Wind Waker mere days ago. shop games that don't offer  near enough content to justify their price($15 for Runner 2 and Cloudberry Kingdom is fine, $15 for approx. 5 hours  of NES remix is not ok). I'm lukewarm on Donkey Kong and ho hum with Mario Kart.

Meh.

CericDecember 19, 2013

I think this direct would be seen in a better, not much better mind you, light if it had come before the WiiU numbers.  A PR Fail by Nintendo.

eggface123December 19, 2013

I trade my wii u for a PS vita. Nothing in this direct is making me regret that. ;)

eggface123December 19, 2013

"Traded"

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Kart Babies: For a character roster that needs as much diversity as it can get, I'm pretty disappointed that at least four of the playable selection is made up of baby characters. Unless there are 30 characters in the game, using playable baby characters seems like a lazy way to fill the roster out. I want Mario Kart, not Yoshi's Island DS Kart.


Lies.  Kart Babies is the best thing that was announced yesterday.

Bman87301December 19, 2013

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By metroid 4 im talking about a mainline console metroid.  Not a handheld sequal.

I'm pretty sure what you actually meant was Metroid Prime 4. Metroid Fusion IS a mainline cannon Metroid, regardless of being handheld (same as Metroid II). It's important to note that the Metroid Prime series was always presented as its own mini-series, not part of the mainline.

ShyGuyDecember 19, 2013

Quote from: eggface123

I trade my wii u for a PS vita. Nothing in this direct is making me regret that. ;)

Do you like the 3DS, eggface?

Kurtis the RedDecember 19, 2013

This Nintendo Direct is at least causing some discussion to pop up over the internet, Props to Nintendo for being able to drop media bombs...pretty much any time they want.

I didn't think the Direct was that bad. True I wanted to hear things about X and perhaps something unannounced, but I can't really blame them for waiting till the time is right.  The main thing I got from this Direct is how much Nintendo is embracing their own online platform.


Correct me if I'm wrong but Chibi-Robo might be the first, original, exlusive, eshop only release on the Wii U. That in itself is good news.

eggface123December 19, 2013



Do you like the 3DS, eggface?



LOVE my 3ds!

HairyChestDecember 19, 2013

Adrock let me explain it so you can understand.  With the wii, was releasing just dance make you as a hardcore nintendo gamer happy? NO  Yet it sold like hotcakes and help make the wii successful.  Now, was there games that made you happy as a nintendo fan? YES mario galaxy, metroid prime 3, xenoblade, etc .

Wii had both

Is wii u incapable of doing that? No but this nintendo direct did nothing to prove that.

Just cuz u love nintendo doesnt mean u should be blind when they make bad decisions.  You have the right to expect the company you back with your money to make you excited for the investment you made

DonkeyBilly KongDecember 20, 2013

I am excited to try out the Chibi Robo game that this site reported on when it came out in Japan.  I had forgotten about it, but the Gamecube game was very charming and fun.  This new one looks to be smaller in scale, but still quirky and interesting.

The Hyrule Warriors game just made me sad.  It looks super generic and bland, like a student project, and I'm worried that the Zelda franchise is going to be as heavily milked as Mario.  When that happens, people no longer get excited for the next big game in the franchise, because it is lost in the sea of spinoffs.

KhushrenadaDecember 20, 2013

Quote from: HairyChest

Adrock let me explain it so you can understand.  With the wii, was releasing just dance make you as a hardcore nintendo gamer happy? NO  Yet it sold like hotcakes and help make the wii successful.  Now, was there games that made you happy as a nintendo fan? YES mario galaxy, metroid prime 3, xenoblade, etc .

Wii had both

Is wii u incapable of doing that? No but this nintendo direct did nothing to prove that.

Just cuz u love nintendo doesnt mean u should be blind when they make bad decisions.  You have the right to expect the company you back with your money to make you excited for the investment you made

Alright! HairyChest laying down the law with Adrock and finally setting that guy straight! I love it! HC seems to have the best ideas so far of what would make fans happy. Can't say I've seen anyone else come up with something better.

AdrockDecember 20, 2013

Quote from: HairyChest

Adrock let me explain it so you can understand.  With the wii, was releasing just dance make you as a hardcore nintendo gamer happy? NO  Yet it sold like hotcakes and help make the wii successful.  Now, was there games that made you happy as a nintendo fan? YES mario galaxy, metroid prime 3, xenoblade, etc .

Wii had both

Is wii u incapable of doing that? No but this nintendo direct did nothing to prove that.

Just cuz u love nintendo doesnt mean u should be blind when they make bad decisions.  You have the right to expect the company you back with your money to make you excited for the investment you made

First, don't ask me a question then answer it for me. To answer that first question though: Yes. A game I may not want or play selling well on the platform I invested money in ultimately (yet indirectly) benefits me by making the platform stronger.

Regardless, I knew what you meant so there was really no need for that condescending tone. The point is that no matter what Nintendo does, many of you chuckleheads are still going to whine about something as if they never do anything right which, quite honestly, gets exhausting, especially on a Nintendo forum. If they announce A, it's still disappointing because they didn't also announce B. I'm not above or beyond criticizing Nintendo for things, but I like to give credit where credit is due. There's a reason I regularly give them money and signed up for a message board to talk about them.

I'm simply taking issue with the constant negativity around here. Every discussion goes right for the bottom with complaints, often without ever acknowledging any positives. Take Hyrule Warriors, for example. Not only do some people shit all over it, they shit all over the people who like those games. This isn't sour grapes as I'm not even one of those people. While I may not like particularly like the genre, I'm not about to denigrate people who do.

See, you made zero suggestions for how the Nintendo Direct could help Wii U be more successful. It just seems like you're complaining to complain. You point out problems, but don't offer any solutions. Sure, you're within your rights to do so, but so am I when pointing out how ridiculous you sound.

BlackNMild2k1December 20, 2013

"Planet GameCube NWR, where gamers go to BITCH about EVERYTHING..."

KhushrenadaDecember 20, 2013

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"Planet GameCube NWR, where gamers go to BITCH about EVERYTHING..."

I don't agree with that and I have a major problem with you assuming that is an absolute fact with everyone on here. You don't see me complaining about stuff.

CericDecember 24, 2013

Quote from: Khushrenada

Quote from: BlackNMild2k1

"Planet GameCube NWR, where gamers go to BITCH about EVERYTHING..."

I don't agree with that and I have a major problem with you assuming that is an absolute fact with everyone on here. You don't see me complaining about stuff.

Yeah, Seriously.

And why has Elmo been hogging the potty for so long?

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