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Title: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 02:46:06 PM
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What we are looking at are the cumulative Wii and DS sales through the end of 2008. Wii has been selling at industry’s record pace so far, and with new customers acquired by the gaming population expansion efforts, it is not impossible for Wii’s total sales to exceed the final install base of PS2. Wii still has much more room for expansion. We can expect more sales of software in the next fiscal year than in the current year. With what kind of software is Nintendo going to achieve this goal? Well, it will be shown at E3 to be held in the U.S. this June.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 30, 2009, 02:53:02 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm Kidding On a serious note I liked last years E3. I'll be back later.
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Post by: King of Twitch on January 30, 2009, 02:59:20 PM
The opposite rule is in effect until we get closer; anything Iwata or Reggie says in the next 5 months is the opposite of the truth.
I expect a near-finished Pikmin 3 and WS Resort, and a Zelda trailer.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 30, 2009, 03:15:07 PM
Well, This E3 for Nintendo is already going to be great...if you just list the games we already KNOW about.
Punch Out Wii Sports Resort Sin and Punishment 2 Tracy Memory 2
possibly: Endless Ocean 2
3rd party developer: The Conduit
If Nintendo has even just 1 or 2 suprise announcements then the E3 conference will be one of the best for Nintendo.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 30, 2009, 03:35:20 PM
Well, Nintendo said time and time again that they were disappointed with E3 (as a response to all the criticism), and they made up for it with the Fall conference. They could avoid the disappointment, but let's be level headed about this.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 30, 2009, 03:37:34 PM
I hope for moar Dynamic Slash.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 03:37:50 PM
Well, Nintendo said time and time again that they were disappointed with E3 (as a response to all the criticism), and they made up for it with the Fall conference. They could avoid the disappointment, but let's be level headed about this.
Level headed is for the weak peoples. We must get HYPED.
BTW I would think Wii Sports Resort would be out by E3.
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Post by: Kairon on January 30, 2009, 03:39:51 PM
If all we got from Nintendo at this E3 were Punch Out, Wii Sports Resort, and Tracy Memory 2, I'd be ecstatic.
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Post by: Pale on January 30, 2009, 03:45:14 PM
Wii Sports Resort and Punch Out will almost definitely be released before E3, so I don't count them as being there.
We also know they aren't going to ignore the [fill in the blank] market either, so I wonder what they will do for them. Wii Fit 2 with motion plus support seems pretty definite in my mind. I just hope they don't dedicate more than 40% of the press conference to it. I'll definitely buy it if they add some sort of routine system to it.
Going off my GDC prediction (which I shamelessly stole from GP) I expect Pikmin 3 (which will only be shown in trailer form at GDC) to be playable.
One thing I wish they'd do but I doubt it will happen is do something to reinvigorate the Virtual Console. Namely, I'd love to see an announcement that they solved some of the presumed emulation issues, such as the super fx chip and n64 memory expansion.
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Post by: EasyCure on January 30, 2009, 04:12:44 PM
Wii Sports Resort and Punch Out will almost definitely be released before E3, so I don't count them as being there.
We also know they aren't going to ignore the [fill in the blank] market either, so I wonder what they will do for them. Wii Fit 2 with motion plus support seems pretty definite in my mind. I just hope they don't dedicate more than 40% of the press conference to it. I'll definitely buy it if they add some sort of routine system to it.
Going off my GDC prediction (which I shamelessly stole from GP) I expect Pikmin 3 (which will only be shown in trailer form at GDC) to be playable.
One thing I wish they'd do but I doubt it will happen is do something to reinvigorate the Virtual Console. Namely, I'd love to see an announcement that they solved some of the presumed emulation issues, such as the super fx chip and n64 memory expansion.
How could you forget rumble :(
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Post by: Stogi on January 30, 2009, 04:22:26 PM
Hmmm....
If Nintendo wants the PS2 title, then they have to attack it from all fronts. Casual and hardcore. It'll be interesting to see what they have planned.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 30, 2009, 04:40:26 PM
Wii Sports Resort and Punch Out will almost definitely be released before E3, so I don't count them as being there.
We also know they aren't going to ignore the [fill in the blank] market either, so I wonder what they will do for them. Wii Fit 2 with motion plus support seems pretty definite in my mind. I just hope they don't dedicate more than 40% of the press conference to it. I'll definitely buy it if they add some sort of routine system to it.
Going off my GDC prediction (which I shamelessly stole from GP) I expect Pikmin 3 (which will only be shown in trailer form at GDC) to be playable.
One thing I wish they'd do but I doubt it will happen is do something to reinvigorate the Virtual Console. Namely, I'd love to see an announcement that they solved some of the presumed emulation issues, such as the super fx chip and n64 memory expansion.
Both Punch-Out and Wii Sports Resort before E3? E3 happens in July, right? If so, I don't see this happening.
We have yet to see an updated trailer for Punch-Out Wii, much less actual gameplay footage. Same with Wii Sports Resort. This could change at GDC, but I doubt they will be release before June ends.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 04:41:54 PM
I think Wii Sports Resort will be out in April or May. They need to have enough lag time with Wii Motion plus so other games can take advantage of it before christmas.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 30, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
I think Wii Sports Resort will be out in April or May. They need to have enough lag time with Wii Motion plus so other games can take advantage of it before christmas.
Well, Nintendo only announced its releases till March, leaving April, May and June available for possible releases. E3 happens in July, so a lot can happen in those three months. But my worry is that Nintendo has yet to talk about those titles, so I doubt that a release would be announced soon.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 04:48:27 PM
I think Wii Sports Resort will be out in April or May. They need to have enough lag time with Wii Motion plus so other games can take advantage of it before christmas.
Well, Nintendo only announced its releases till March, leaving April, May and June available for possible releases. E3 happens in July, so a lot can happen in those three months. But my worry is that Nintendo has yet to talk about those titles, so I doubt that a release would be announced soon.
Didn't they announce Wario Land like 3 months before it was released? It is almost Nintendo's thing now to announce release dates shortly before they are released.
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Post by: King of Twitch on January 30, 2009, 04:52:18 PM
Ah, the ole Sega Saturn ploy. Brilllliant
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 30, 2009, 04:53:40 PM
To be fair to my predictions...this is Nintendo we are talking about. Even if Wii Sports Resort is out they will still have it at E3 in some way.
But if that is the case, then I would suggest that we may only get 2 new game announcements for the end of the year.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 04:58:23 PM
I think Wii Sports Resort will be out in April or May. They need to have enough lag time with Wii Motion plus so other games can take advantage of it before christmas.
Well, Nintendo only announced its releases till March, leaving April, May and June available for possible releases. E3 happens in July, so a lot can happen in those three months. But my worry is that Nintendo has yet to talk about those titles, so I doubt that a release would be announced soon.
Didn't they announce Wario Land like 3 months before it was released? It is almost Nintendo's thing now to announce release dates shortly before they are released.
Yes, but they released A LOT of info, footage and screens, with non-stop info till release. Wii Sports Resort only received a three game demo at E3, and Punch-Out only had a trailer, nothing since then.
Again, if we expect Nintendo to release them before July they would have to bombard us with every info prior to launch.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 05:08:38 PM
We still have GDC as well which is where I think a release date will be announced for Wii Sports Resort along with Punch-Out.
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Post by: Khushrenada on January 30, 2009, 05:12:20 PM
I guess it all depends on Wii Motion Plus. If there are other games that require its use coming down the pipeline, I don't think Nintendo would want to keep holding back Wii Sports Resort. If Wii Sports Resorts is the only game to use it and no other games are even close to be ready to use it, then they may be able to hold back on releasing Wii Sports Resort.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 05:13:59 PM
Given how Nintendo's more casual titles have sold I don't think it matters when they start selling it, it will sell all through the year!
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Post by: Kairon on January 30, 2009, 05:22:26 PM
I keep forgetting that E3 comes later and later in the year these days.
Nintendo's Q3 financial report shows a first half 2009 Calendar Year release in NA for both Punch Out and Wii Sports Resort, so I think that Pale's right, these games will have just been released by E3. It doesn't mean that Nintendo wouldn't make a big deal of them at their show though.
I'm curious as to what Nintendo's big third-party game(s) will be. The Conduit, HOTD; Overkill, and Madworld may all already be out by E3 2009. It'd be very exciting if it was some big Motion Plus surprise project, maybe Red Steel 2? Or maybe it'll be an RPG line-up? Or a survival horror line-up?
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Post by: Khushrenada on January 30, 2009, 05:26:17 PM
Given how Nintendo's more casual titles have sold I don't think it matters when they start selling it, it will sell all through the year!
I'm not arguing that it's going to have selling power. What I'm arguing is this. Let's say I've made a game. Wii Fencing. And it requires Wii Motion Plus. I can't release my game until Nintendo makes that peripheral widely available.
That is why I think Wii Sports Resorts release date might be affected be Wii Motion Plus. If there are other games that need are nearing completion that require it, Nintendo would probably have to release the game earlier in the year. If not, they can take their time as to when they release it.
And chances are it is the latter since I don't think Nintendo went to third party developers and let them know that they were making Wii Motion Plus.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 05:33:24 PM
I keep forgetting that E3 comes later and later in the year these days.
Nintendo's Q3 financial report shows a first half 2009 Calendar Year release in NA for both Punch Out and Wii Sports Resort, so I think that Pale's right, these games will have just been released by E3. It doesn't mean that Nintendo wouldn't make a big deal of them at their show though.
I'm curious as to what Nintendo's big third-party game(s) will be. The Conduit, HOTD; Overkill, and Madworld may all already be out by E3 2009. It'd be very exciting if it was some big Motion Plus surprise project, maybe Red Steel 2? Or maybe it'll be an RPG line-up? Or a survival horror line-up?
Wasn't High Voltage going to include MOtion Plus? I'd think that would be an indication of Wii Sports Resort being released in spring.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 30, 2009, 05:33:57 PM
The giddy Nintendo fan in me hopes that Iwata thinks this year will be the time to start the next stage of disruption in earnest and launch a heavy push upmarket. It has to happen sometime. Last E3 was when Nintendo braced for the incumbents' counteroffensive that never materialized, and it's possible that Iwata and company were emboldened by that. Still, I prefer not to get hyped up, so I'll restrain my inner fan for now.
(I've been reading malstrom's articles again, if you couldn't tell.)
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Post by: Kairon on January 30, 2009, 05:54:44 PM
I could tell, lol.
I don't know what an upmarket push would look like though. I'd actually appreciate an up-market "pull," if that makes any sense. I imagine that would be something done through light-gun games (House of the Dead: Overkill) puzzle titles (Boom Blox 2) and point-and-click titles.
As for Motion-Plus, I've heard conflicting reports about whether developers are or are not working on it. It may be possible that limited numbers of developers have gotten Motion Plus SDKs up to this point.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 30, 2009, 06:06:56 PM
Unless Nintendo alllows 3rd party developers to package in the hardware. I would love for the Conduit to come packed with the software as well.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 30, 2009, 06:25:30 PM
I'd like Nintendo to reveal one game, that I can get really excited about, due for release later in the year. Something that I'm going to be routinely checking my calendar to see how much longer it is until release. Something I'll rush out on day one to buy only to likely be disappointed because Canada didn't get it until a day or two later. The sort of game that the next day at work after I've already played it I can't concentrate because I'm just thinking about the game and what I'm going to find next when I get home that night. Think of the anticipation for a Metroid, Zelda or Mario game though it doen't have to be specifically THOSE franchises to do it.
That more than anything was why last year's show was so disappointing to me. It had nothing that did that for me. Wario Land turned out to be quite good but it wasn't "that" type of game. That anticipation is part of the joy of being a gamer to me. Nintendo outright failed to do that last year and frankly there's nothing due before E3 that I know about that gives me that kind of feeling. So I feel deprived and almost need Nintendo to release at least one game like that in 2009.
Two would be better of course. ;) One for fall and one for winter? Hell, one for the second half and 2009 and one for the first half of 2010 would be okay.
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Post by: Kairon on January 30, 2009, 06:36:32 PM
That's not asking for too much actually Ian.
Hmm.... would you be happy with a Star Fox or F-Zero? Because honestly, those were examples of "that" sort of game for me back in the N64 days. Heck, Mario Kart was "that" kind of game too if you think about it.
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Post by: Khushrenada on January 30, 2009, 06:44:56 PM
Yeah. Even though I like Pikmin and am excited about Pikmin 3, its not something I'll be counting down the days for.
Frankly, I just want some closure on Kirby. Is that former Gamecube game now a Wii game ever going to see the light of day again. I want Kirby! Kirby! Kirby! Kirby! Why have you betrayed HAL and not let them release a Kirby game, Iwata? Is it because you are afraid? Afraid that if you let HAL shine again in the spotlight, a rival may come up to take your place as head of Nintendo? Are you afraid that someone will follow your path to the top and challenge you for supremacy? Is that why they have been kept silent for so long?
The trailer for the game looked so good. It gave off vibes of Kirby Superstar. Can you beleive that the last real Kirby we've had for a Nintendo console is Kirby 64? Kirby's Air Ride doesn't count. It's a racing game not a platformer. Just let us know what had happened to the pink puff. If the game was shelved, fine. But still make a 3D Kirby game. Just make one already.
Also, some news on Disaster Day of Crisis would be great. Or Captain Rainbow. That would be interesting.
EDIT: Oooooooooooh. F-Zero would also be kickbutt. After it's awesome showing on GC, that would be a game I would countdown the days for. But, it would have to be made by AV again. Otherwise, I'd be worried about how it might turn out.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 30, 2009, 06:48:52 PM
I don't know what an upmarket push would look like though.
Me neither, which is why the thought of it is so exciting.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 30, 2009, 07:02:15 PM
I'm counting down the days February alone.
MY FROTHING DEMAND INCREASES
THE NON-CASUAL I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
TIP EHT FO MOTTOB
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 30, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
I actually agree with Pro. This February we get Deadly Creatures, and HOTD: O all in one month followed by Madworld in early March.
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Post by: Ian Sane on January 30, 2009, 07:51:14 PM
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Hmm.... would you be happy with a Star Fox or F-Zero?
I love F-Zero but it's kind of played, you know? Racing games don't usually have that effect on me anyway. But I certainly buy it, just not count the days until release.
Star Fox is damaged goods so I can't imagine getting excited about a new one. Even if EAD was working on it would be a wait-and-see. But really the series just needs a big comeback game and I would get interested in it again.
Pikmin 3 will do it for me easy. Pikmin 2 was my favourite Cube game.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 30, 2009, 07:51:39 PM
Ian Sane: Interesting, I agree with you just one great game that I would count the days for is all I need as well...but what Nintendo franchise would be that game?
Star Fox? Maybe if it is done right....but Sin and Punishment 2 will be the hardcore shooter this year Star Fox can wait. F-Zero: Not really, I like F-Zero, but I did not like the direction of the Sega F-Zero, it became too difficult and not enjoyable to play. Metroid: Too early, unless it was a 2D (Sprites) and then I would be counting the minutes. New Mario or Zelda: Of course I would be counting the days. Pikmin: Not really counting the days. New IP: I think I would be more excited about a new IP than some of these others.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 30, 2009, 08:26:52 PM
I would be happy if they just showed a big wealth of games, both first and third party. One of the big issues with last year's E3 was that they barely talked about games, not even third party efforts worth noting.
The Fall conference, however, was different because they showed a lot of games. Even if Nintendo doesn't announce a megaton with release date if they show a lot of games I am happy.
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Post by: Kairon on January 30, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
Why are Nintendo's October Conferences in Japan so hardcore and in comparison their American showings so... not?
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Post by: King of Twitch on January 31, 2009, 12:35:51 AM
Takes awhile for the blue ocean hurricane to make landfall
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Post by: Dasmos on January 31, 2009, 12:45:26 AM
Wii Sports Resort and Punch Out will almost definitely be released before E3, so I don't count them as being there.
We also know they aren't going to ignore the [fill in the blank] market either, so I wonder what they will do for them. Wii Fit 2 with motion plus support seems pretty definite in my mind. I just hope they don't dedicate more than 40% of the press conference to it. I'll definitely buy it if they add some sort of routine system to it.
Going off my GDC prediction (which I shamelessly stole from GP) I expect Pikmin 3 (which will only be shown in trailer form at GDC) to be playable.
One thing I wish they'd do but I doubt it will happen is do something to reinvigorate the Virtual Console. Namely, I'd love to see an announcement that they solved some of the presumed emulation issues, such as the super fx chip and n64 memory expansion.
Both Punch-Out and Wii Sports Resort before E3? E3 happens in July, right? If so, I don't see this happening.
Punch-Out!! is due for release in PAL regions for the first half of 2009, so that'll easily be available for NTSC regions by then. Wii Sports Resort is due in Japan in April and from what I've read not too long after in the US. So I think it's entirely possible both will released by e3.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on January 31, 2009, 12:52:51 AM
Wii Music 2. that's the game.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 31, 2009, 10:05:42 PM
I want new "core" IP. Not a Wii version of an existing franchise.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 31, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
I want new "core" IP. Not a Wii version of an existing franchise.
Are you talking about new IPs that appeal to the core fanbase? If so yes.
As much as I love the classic Nintendo franchises and would love for some of them to return Nintendo needs to release more new IPs on the Wii. The Fall Conference showed a lot of titles that I would love to try out.
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Post by: Kairon on January 31, 2009, 10:52:54 PM
I want new "core" IP. Not a Wii version of an existing franchise.
Are you talking about new IPs that appeal to the core fanbase? If so yes.
As much as I love the classic Nintendo franchises and would love for some of them to return Nintendo needs to release more new IPs on the Wii. The Fall Conference showed a lot of titles that I would love to try out.
Yeah, but as much as I'm extremely excited to see what Cosmic Walker turns out to be, I'm not quite sure that's what Lindy had in mind.
I mean, I'm confused as to what exactly people mean when they say they want to see new core IP from Nintendo... what's a good example of that happening before?
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Post by: Dasmos on January 31, 2009, 10:55:40 PM
Quote from: Kairon
I mean, I'm confused as to what exactly people mean when they say they want to see new core IP from Nintendo... what's a good example of that happening before?
Disaster: Day of Crisis.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 01, 2009, 12:39:33 AM
[quote-Kairon]I mean, I'm confused as to what exactly people mean when they say they want to see new core IP from Nintendo... what's a good example of that happening before?
Disaster: Day of Crisis. [/quote]
Also Captain Rainbow!
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 01, 2009, 12:42:29 AM
[quote-Kairon]I mean, I'm confused as to what exactly people mean when they say they want to see new core IP from Nintendo... what's a good example of that happening before?
Disaster: Day of Crisis.
Also Captain Rainbow! [/quote]
How ironic that even though Captain Rainbow is a new IP its about helping obscure and forgotten Nintendo characters.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on February 01, 2009, 12:49:47 AM
What I want to see is the next big franchise. I want something that can be put up there with Mario, Zelda, and the Metroid Prime series. Stuff like Starfox, F-Zero, and even Kid Icarus is cool and all, but I have a good idea of where they would go with those. I want something TOTALLY new. New characters, new worlds, new play methods, new everything. I haven't seen that from Nintendo for a LONG time, probably since Metroid Prime was released.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 01, 2009, 12:54:57 AM
What I want to see is the next big franchise. I want something that can be put up there with Mario, Zelda, and the Metroid Prime series. Stuff like Starfox, F-Zero, and even Kid Icarus is cool and all, but I have a good idea of where they would go with those. I want something TOTALLY new. New characters, new worlds, new play methods, new everything. I haven't seen that from Nintendo for a LONG time, probably since Metroid Prime was released.
Metroid Prime was based off the Metroid series you goober. :P
The next big franchise is something that rarely comes along, just ask Sony.
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Post by: IceCold on February 01, 2009, 01:46:37 AM
If (and this actually isn't all that unlikely) F-Zero Wii and Pikmin 3 are fully unveiled, I'd be in heaven.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2009, 03:05:21 AM
What I want to see is the next big franchise. I want something that can be put up there with Mario, Zelda, and the Metroid Prime series. Stuff like Starfox, F-Zero, and even Kid Icarus is cool and all, but I have a good idea of where they would go with those. I want something TOTALLY new. New characters, new worlds, new play methods, new everything. I haven't seen that from Nintendo for a LONG time, probably since Metroid Prime was released.
Like all the stuff shown at the fall conference? There were at least four (somewhat) unknown names on the release list for 2009 and I think they were all from the conference.
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Post by: Kairon on February 01, 2009, 05:01:32 AM
I want something TOTALLY new. New characters, new worlds, new play methods, new everything. I haven't seen that from Nintendo for a LONG time, probably since Metroid Prime was released.
I don't know about you, but I've seen that plenty of times from Nintendo since Metroid Prime. Or do you mean you want a title that falls into the vague "epic" category somehow?
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Post by: Kairon on February 01, 2009, 05:06:47 AM
The next big franchise is something that rarely comes along, just ask Sony.
Nintendo's actually done this a couple times if you think about it:
Wii Series (2006) Nintendogs (2005) Pokemon (1998)
Lindy seems to be talking about a "hardcore" new franchise like Mario or Zelda. At least that is how I interpreted his question. He seemed to discount all the other new IPs Nintendo has created.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2009, 06:51:29 AM
What about Battalion Wars (I don't think that really has much in common with the TBS Famicom Wars games), Chibi Robo, Disaster and Excite Truck? People just list Pikmin but it really wasn't the only new setting Nintendo had since the N64.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 01, 2009, 07:29:15 AM
Nintendo didn't care enough to advertise the above.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on February 01, 2009, 09:46:49 AM
I'm not saying Nintendo hasn't introduced new IP, far from it. But their new IP hasn't strayed beyond "general audience" stuff for a long time. I realize Metroid Prime was existing IP, but it's so different from anything else in their catalog that it felt brand-new. It introduced tons of new worlds and characters.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 01, 2009, 12:01:50 PM
I have a feeling one of the games is going to be from Monster Games, what Mario Team has been working on and Pikmin 3.
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Post by: crone on February 01, 2009, 01:26:05 PM
If Nintendo does not hype Sin and Punishment 2 at E3 or in any advertising they are missing out on a huge opportunity to launch a new IP. S&P 1 with its low budget beat out Star Fox 64 in the gameplay department by a mile.
I know that its technically Treasure's IP but Nintendo is publishing. Treasure is less than 30 employees...if Nintendo could give them a push like they did with Rareware/Silicon Knights in the old days S&P 2 could be a big hit.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 01, 2009, 01:48:10 PM
Pfft. They need to push Dynamic Slash. Sandlot is awesome.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 01, 2009, 03:30:58 PM
If Nintendo does not hype Sin and Punishment 2 at E3 or in any advertising they are missing out on a huge opportunity to launch a new IP. S&P 1 with its low budget beat out Star Fox 64 in the gameplay department by a mile.
I know that its technically Treasure's IP but Nintendo is publishing. Treasure is less than 30 employees...if Nintendo could give them a push like they did with Rareware/Silicon Knights in the old days S&P 2 could be a big hit.
I believe Nintendo owns the IP.
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Post by: EasyCure on February 01, 2009, 05:44:20 PM
I'm not saying Nintendo hasn't introduced new IP, far from it. But their new IP hasn't strayed beyond "general audience" stuff for a long time. I realize Metroid Prime was existing IP, but it's so different from anything else in their catalog that it felt brand-new. It introduced tons of new worlds and characters.
I really think you are splitting hairs. What about AC? That was a new IP that was different from most of what they did? Or what about Professor Layton, Captain Rainbow, DISASTER, and others? Not to mention that new IPs are extremely overrated, you can create fresh innovative game designs in current IPs. Just look at the Mario and Luigi series, it is unique from about any game out there. It is one of the few RPGs where if you are good enough you can actually avoid taking damage for the most part. Mario Galaxy is another example, it innovated the basic platforming design to building a game around planetoids, the impact of gravity, and the puzzles that go along with that.
Metroid Prime was still Super Metroid but in 3D, the reason why people loved it is because it managed to capture the spirit of the game while bringing it to 3D.
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Post by: IceCold on February 01, 2009, 11:13:54 PM
I'm not saying Nintendo hasn't introduced new IP, far from it. But their new IP hasn't strayed beyond "general audience" stuff for a long time. I realize Metroid Prime was existing IP, but it's so different from anything else in their catalog that it felt brand-new. It introduced tons of new worlds and characters.
I really think you are splitting hairs. What about AC? That was a new IP that was different from most of what they did? Or what about Professor Layton, Captain Rainbow, DISASTER, and others? Not to mention that new IPs are extremely overrated, you can create fresh innovative game designs in current IPs. Just look at the Mario and Luigi series, it is unique from about any game out there. It is one of the few RPGs where if you are good enough you can actually avoid taking damage for the most part. Mario Galaxy is another example, it innovated the basic platforming design to building a game around planetoids, the impact of gravity, and the puzzles that go along with that.
Metroid Prime was still Super Metroid but in 3D, the reason why people loved it is because it managed to capture the spirit of the game while bringing it to 3D.
Whoah there let's not get carried away there...
Let me remind that ALL of Nintendo's franchises were once niche, new IPs that revolutionized the scene.
Mario: Revolutionized arcades and platforming
Zelda: Added a lot of freedom to adventure games
Metroid: An atmospheric adventure game with an enigmatic lead
Pokemon: Became a worldwide, multimedia phenomenon
And many, many more...
Yes, I agree that you can still innovate with existing IPs. But that doesn't mean that new IPs can't be created. The next big could be out there.
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Post by: Mop it up on February 02, 2009, 04:48:28 AM
I'm hoping for an announcement of a new Mario game. And by that, I mean a spin-off. Call me crazy or whatever but I can't get enough Mario games.
What, specifically, am I hoping for? Well, I have a few things in mind. I'd love to see a new Mario Tennis, but I suppose the re-release of Mario Power Tennis pretty much kills the chance of that happening. I'm kind of surprised there's been no mention of a Mario Party 9 yet... makes me wonder what Hudson has been up to. MP8 is good, but Wii can do better; now's the time to give the series an overhaul! Perhaps a sport that the Mario gang hasn't touched yet could be interesting, although I can't really think of a major one that they haven't covered. Football (American) might be interesting, but that sport isn't really popular outside of America. Hockey might be another choice... although that may end up too similar to Mario Strikers. Whatever sport they cover, I'd hope that they would do more than simply add Mario Kart-like items to the mix like a couple of the others did.
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Post by: EasyCure on February 02, 2009, 09:34:04 AM
If (and this actually isn't all that unlikely) F-Zero Wii and Pikmin 3 are fully unveiled, I'd be in heaven.
See..
Damn, I was hoping you wouldn't call me out on that :)
Heh.. its ok, i'm just jealous that you actually finished the games story mode.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
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What I want to see is the next big franchise. I want something that can be put up there with Mario, Zelda, and the Metroid Prime series.
I would love to see this as well. This one thing I really miss about Rare. Even if Nintendo was sticking mostly to franchises on the N64 Rare would bust out something like Banjo-Kazooie, Jet Force Gemini, Conker or Perfect Dark and it was like "whoa, what's that?!" The N64 really spoiled us with that as the existing franchises were also so overhauled in 3D that they were effectively new as well.
I just think Nintendo assumes too much that their franchises define them. What Nintendo great was that they weren't very cookie cutter. When they made a sequel that made it count. Rarely was it just more levels. Usually it had some fundamental gameplay difference or it just added so much stuff that it made the original game seem obsolete. It felt like you couldn't skip a sequel. But even if you don't milk a franchise too quickly there's just the law of diminishing returns. Mario and Zelda are old enough now that it's really hard to keep it fresh. I give Nintendo full credit for keeping a franchise relevant for multiple console generations. But to keep things fresh they naturally need to introduce new IPs as the old ones get stale. This is why I throw a fit whenever Nintendo announces yet another Mario sports game. Mario is played. I'm sick of him. I still enjoy his platformers but Mario spinoffs just feel like product. There's nothing new being done. Anyone can skip it and know they didn't miss much. I know it's a quick buck but I would rather see those efforts put to something more interesting.
And there is an obvious difference between a new IP being used in an A-title or a B-title. Captain Rainbow is not an A-title. It would be nice to see something new in a GOTY contender.
Fortunately Pikmin is still new enough that Pikmin 3 will likely still feel pretty fresh. And Kid Icarus making a transfer to 3D would essentially be a new IP like how Metroid Prime was.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2009, 01:09:33 PM
So, um, why do people ignore the games from the fall conference?
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Post by: EasyCure on February 02, 2009, 01:38:34 PM
So, um, why do the "hardcore" people ignore the games from the fall conference?
Fixed.
That is a good question. I'd love to find out more about those NEW IPs like Dynamic Slash and the one set in space..
I agree that most people disregard the Fall conference.Its sad.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 02, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
Here are some details about E3 2009. Takes place June 2-4 Held at Los Angeles Convention Center. Broader range of industry members will be allowed access. Non ESA member organizations will be able to attend. Booth sizes have increased.
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Post by: Gylldas on February 02, 2009, 03:04:23 PM
I'm glad to see that E3's a little bigger this year. Kid Icarus better be there in some form! I also hope to see Wii Motion + put to full use.
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Post by: King of Twitch on February 02, 2009, 03:07:49 PM
More room for booth babes
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 02, 2009, 03:26:07 PM
Yeah I saw it the other day.It was a pretty generic looking Pit.
That is what Factor 5 excels at. ;)
So this is the Generic Generation i see.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 02, 2009, 04:25:22 PM
I hope Icarus is canned.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 02, 2009, 04:30:53 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 02, 2009, 04:32:36 PM
I hope the bubble bursts.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2009, 04:55:22 PM
Yeah I don't know how I feel about Factor 5 doing Kid Icarus. Yeah Nintendo gave Metroid to a western dev and it turned out great BUT Metroid always had a more western look anyway. So Retro's western graphics design fits Metroid really well. And even if you don't like that R&D1 still made a new Japanese Metroid and a remake as well, so even the most picky Metroid fan had something to like.
Kid Icarus looks more Japanese to me. Maybe that sounds crazy but a more western design wouldn't fit it as well. It has Eggplant Wizards for pete's sake! That's Japanese character design 101 right there! Meanwhile Metroid is using alien designs inspired by the American flim Alien. And unlike with Metroid I don't think some 2D Kid Icarus is showing up on the DS as a sort of "safety net". (Wouldn't that be cool by the way? 2D Kid Icarus with non-8-bit visuals?)
Now that's all graphics which isn't quite as important as gameplay (though I think it's still important to establish mood and atmosphere). But Factor 5 is hit-or-miss and their last game was really bad. Retro and Rare made good with existing Nintendo IPs so maybe Nintendo just knows how to do it. I think I would feel safer though if a Japanese dev was working on it. Hell anytime an IP is handed off to another developer there's risk of disaster.
Wait and see I guess.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 02, 2009, 04:59:35 PM
Well Ian, to be fair Kid Icarus really has no real design template. Whatever they do will be completely different from the two old platformers they did. It is one of those games that will basically be a new IP because there isn't much established.
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Post by: Gylldas on February 02, 2009, 05:20:55 PM
Wow I had no idea about the concept art and supposed plot. I heard the rumors that Factor5 might have been involved but I had no clue it was confirmed. All I knew were the early rumors IGN was spreading. While I am slightly biased to liking the SSB Pit...I wouldn't mind an adult Pit...just as long as he doesn't look like the "I AM PIT!!! HEAR ME ROARZ!!!!" concept art.
I guess we'll see what happens in time.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 02, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Icarus comes from Greek Mythology, right? Well, you just don't get any more Western than that... so I have to disagree with Ian about it being a more Japanese game. As for the Eggplant Wizards, its true Eggplants do come from the orient, so maybe they represent the Persians... and the wizards would be the Magi or something.
Maybe Nintendo needs to get the people who made the 300 movie involved in this. :P
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 02, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
Icarus should be cel-shaded.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2009, 06:58:02 PM
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Icarus comes from Greek Mythology, right? Well, you just don't get any more Western than that... so I have to disagree with Ian about it being a more Japanese game.
Mario is Italian which is also Western but isn't Mario a very Japanese style series?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 02, 2009, 07:19:22 PM
No, because Super Mario is nothing like Pac-Man.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 02, 2009, 07:42:45 PM
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Mario is Italian which is also Western but isn't Mario a very Japanese style series?
Well, obviously Yoshi is Japanese (or at least has a Japanese name) but what else besides that is Japanese about the franchise? Smashing blocks and going through pipes isn't a Japanese thing, but it isn't really a western thing either. The Mushroom kingdom is neither east nor west, but its own unique parallel world type thing.
As for Mario, it was explained in (I think it was the cartoon or something) that he was an Italian from Brooklyn, so he is a Westerner that just happened to get sucked into this parallel universe one day.
Plus, I think the words "Goomba" and "Koopa" are Italian-sounding words, but I could be wrong. The mushroom stuff could be any nationality really, but Mushrooms are used frequently in Italian cuisine so who can say?
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2009, 07:56:31 PM
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Well, obviously Yoshi is Japanese (or at least has a Japanese name) but what else besides that is Japanese about the franchise?
It just has that look, you know? Usually you can spot a Japanese designed game and a Western designed game from a screenshot. It's like how Metal Gear Solid and Splinter Cell have similar subject matter but both have subtle differences in the graphics design that makes it very obvious that MGS is Japanese and Splinter Cell is Western. That's what I mean. I think Kid Icarus looks Japanese despite it's Greek mythology subject matter.
Japanese games usually have a slight anime look to them. Even in games with realistic visuals there's just this subtle anime influence to it.
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Post by: Caliban on February 02, 2009, 07:59:28 PM
Well, obviously Yoshi is Japanese (or at least has a Japanese name)
I've seen Yoshi being used by people of India, or with background of India.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 02, 2009, 08:03:16 PM
Mario is Italian which is also Western but isn't Mario a very Japanese style series?
Well, obviously Yoshi is Japanese (or at least has a Japanese name) but what else besides that is Japanese about the franchise? Smashing blocks and going through pipes isn't a Japanese thing, but it isn't really a western thing either. The Mushroom kingdom is neither east nor west, but its own unique parallel world type thing.
As for Mario, it was explained in (I think it was the cartoon or something) that he was an Italian from Brooklyn, so he is a Westerner that just happened to get sucked into this parallel universe one day.
Plus, I think the words "Goomba" and "Koopa" are Italian-sounding words, but I could be wrong. The mushroom stuff could be any nationality really, but Mushrooms are used frequently in Italian cuisine so who can say?
(colorful) Mushrooms have a place in Japanese culture as well, but you ignore this possiblity.
And colorful mushrooms aren't a prevalent theme I see in Italian cooking, probably because they're BAD FOR YOU.
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Post by: IceCold on February 02, 2009, 09:38:54 PM
I can't believe you guys are forgetting the Tanuki Suit..
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 03, 2009, 04:29:06 AM
Will you people stop it with Kid Icarus already? That rumor was bullshit and hyping it up again only causes disappointment. Hey, guys, there's already a WiiWare game that's aimed at the Kid Icarus legacy in the works, how about you focus on that?
What would resurrecting Kid Icarus do anyway except throw an old brand on a new game? What would really remain of the old game in a modern 3d version?
Also didn't Factor 5 go tits up?
As for western vs japanese stuff, japanese designs in fiction tend to be very ornate and mosty designed around looking cool when doing things like forming interesting silhouettes with every action and such. Western designs are often more practical with the parts having a purpose beyond looking cool and often unrealistically weird designs being avoided. This is most apparent when you compare the designs for mechs, e.g. the Gundam compared to the machines from Earthsiege (I'm not sure Battletech counts fully since its mech collection was "bootstrapped" with designs stolen from Macross and Dougram)
BTW, the names like goomba and koopa are western names, the Japanese ones are kuribo and nokonoko respectively.
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Post by: Adrock on February 03, 2009, 05:40:07 PM
Resurrecting Kid Icarus gives Nintendo fans another good game to play. With all the nothing Nintendo had Q4 2008, I don't know why bringing Pit back can be a bad thing (assuming the game wouldn't suck). I do agree that the rumor is BS. There's nothing to support it other than IGN's cryptic hints which is basically BS anyway.
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Post by: blackfootsteps on February 03, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
So, um, why do the "hardcore" people ignore the games from the fall conference?
Fixed.
That is a good question. I'd love to find out more about those NEW IPs like Dynamic Slash and the one set in space..
The reason these games are ignored (read: forgotten) is that we know next to nothing about them. We need to be thrown a bone in order to chew.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 03, 2009, 06:48:25 PM
As for the style of the game being Japanese, well maybe original one was, but why does that mean the modern sequel necessarily has to be? Retro did a good job with Metroid Prime despite being a western developer. Why would Kid Icarus be worse off in a western studio's hands? Since its actually baed on Greek Mythology, maybe a western touch is actually an improvement.
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Post by: EasyCure on February 03, 2009, 06:49:14 PM
So, um, why do the "hardcore" people ignore the games from the fall conference?
Fixed.
That is a good question. I'd love to find out more about those NEW IPs like Dynamic Slash and the one set in space..
The reason these games are ignored (read: forgotten) is that we know next to nothing about them. We need to be thrown a bone in order to chew.
But the bone everyones chewing on is a squeezy toy, aka fake, aka stupid rumour. Those not chewing on these real bones (albeit as small as they are) are starving themselves for, well, no reason.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 03, 2009, 09:57:44 PM
Going back to the new IP discussion...
I believe the reason why new IPs are important to any company is because it keeps a lot of people working, it keeps companies fresh and more new blood is inserted into game development (as in new employees, creators and such).
I believe that when Ian and Lindy say they want the next big new IP from Nintendo they mean they want a new franchise that could rival the excellence of Mario, Zelda, Kirby and Pokemon, a game that becomes a worldwide hit, not just a cult classic or something like that.
The reality of the situation is that Miyamoto won't be around forever. Either he will retire or die while working at Nintendo. Right now he's pretty much the glue that holds the company together. He provides most of the innovation at the company and he can't be everywhere. Nintendo should try and focus on young developers or creators with potentially good ideas so in the event that Miyamoto leaves forever they could have someone to keep pumping out new ideas.
And they can. Remember, Pokemon was just a small game about catching creatures in the wild and training them to do battle. It was a simple game with crude graphics, simple music and some limitations. Yet, the gameplay was solid enough that it brought a lot of new fans in and became a worldwide hit.
While Animal Crossing didn't create a similar sensation it also brought a lot of new fans in despite its simplicity.
Like I mentioned earlier at one point or another ALL major franchises were new ideas waiting to be tested. And they got where they are today because publishers were daring enough to give them a chance.
So to sum it up new IPs are important because it keeps a company fresh and relevant and gives birth to young creators who might be tomorrow's creative leaders.
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Post by: Kairon on February 03, 2009, 11:00:01 PM
While Animal Crossing didn't create a similar sensation it also brought a lot of new fans in despite its simplicity.
Animal Crossing on the DS just crossed the 10 million sold mark. I bet the Wii version is at or over 2 million worldwide already. In fact, the Wii version could easily outsell the combined numbers for the last Tomb Raider game, or the last Prince of Persia game.
I agree that it hasn't been a Pokemon-like sensation, but I just wanted to point out that Animal Crossing should be considered a MAJOR newer franchise for Nintendo. (especially since I sort of left it out of my list of major new Nintendo IPs...eheh)
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 04, 2009, 12:19:28 AM
The reality of the situation is that Miyamoto won't be around forever. Either he will retire or die while working at Nintendo.
Don't say that! Miyamoto will live forever. He's going to be like Che Guevara, and will have his face on T-shirts and so forth... I hope Nintendo will build a Robot or something and find a way to upload Miyamoto's genius brain into it so that he will be able to continue creating games from beyond the grave.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2009, 04:04:26 AM
Miyamoto is creating new ideas, just instead of slapping a pre-defined character in there he lets the player pick his own avatar with the Miis. Malstrom's theory was that nintendo only makes new franchises to match new hardware (e.g. F Zero for mode 7, Pikmin for the GC's ability to handle so many things).
The reason these games are ignored (read: forgotten) is that we know next to nothing about them. We need to be thrown a bone in order to chew.
Yet people talk about Kid Icarus as if it was a confirmed fact.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 04, 2009, 04:21:14 AM
Kid Icarus might not be confirmed, but Nintendo has been reviving a lot of its dormant old franchises lately (sin & punishment, Punch-out, etc.) so why wouldn't they revive Icarus as well? Plus he was included in Smash Bros. and there's no way that would have happened unless Nintendo was giving him some thought.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2009, 04:32:28 AM
That is still way more far fetched than a game that has a trailer released already.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 04, 2009, 12:08:35 PM
Animal Crossing is totally a relatively new major IP from Nintendo. My only beef with it is that instead of making a full-out sequel to it Nintendo just slightly upgrades it each time. Since I already have the Cube version I've never seen any reason to get Super Animal Crossing Turbo on the Wii.
Though not all IPs are equal. Animal Crossing and Pikmin are a much bigger deal since they're developed internally by Nintendo themselves. A new IP from an obscure or unproven developer that is only be published by Nintendo is not as big of a deal as it lacks the guaranteed quality that a first party Nintendo title almost certainly will have.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2009, 01:11:51 PM
What would a full-out sequel to a do-what-you-want game like AC really do? All you can do is add more features.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 04, 2009, 01:35:33 PM
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What would a full-out sequel to a do-what-you-want game like AC really do? All you can do is add more features.
The exact same characters populate your town regardless of what game you have. For starters how about a completely different cast? How about different settings for towns instead of always a forest? Have it in a jungle or a mountain or a big city or outer space or the wild west or medieval times or in Nintendo themed environments like Hyrule or the Mushroom Kingdom. Hell this isn't even hard. There's so much more they could do with this franchise.
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Post by: Kairon on February 04, 2009, 01:52:14 PM
How about different settings for towns instead of always a forest?
That could work, but not to the extent of your suggestions. Just some different environs. Desert towns, plains towns, forest towns! But uh... not medieval theme park towns...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 04, 2009, 02:40:56 PM
"A new IP from an obscure or unproven developer that is only be published by Nintendo is not as big of a deal as it lacks the guaranteed quality that a first party Nintendo title almost certainly will have."
They also lack the marketing $$$ of first-party efforts. Why does Nintendo bother sending troops to die?
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Post by: TofuFury on February 05, 2009, 02:42:48 AM
I'd hate an AC game with all new villagers. I have a lot of fun seeing old villagers move in to stay. While I understand people want fresh faces, I just don't want to see them all go.
I do think Nintendo will do better with this E3. They've seen what happens when they have a lackluster event, and I don't think they want to send out more letters apologizing for their showing.
As far as a wishlist goes, I'd be happy if Nintendo showed any of the following:
Wii- Starfox Wii Yoshi's Island Wii Mario Galaxy 2 Pikmin 3 A new and interesting IP
DS- US releases for Mother 1-3 (yeah, I know, not happening) and Soma Bringer
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 05, 2009, 04:10:47 AM
Another Mario main game at E3 won't happen, they're not going to rush Mario just to make E3 more interesting.
Nintendo has total freedom this E3, there's no threat that needs to be preempted so they can do whatever they want.
As for new IPs, considering they already have 4-5 new IPs in their upcoming release list for Japan (you know, the one with the million sellers listed) the chance is pretty close to 100% that they'll show at least one of them at E3.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 05, 2009, 04:38:45 AM
I agree. There may be another main Mario game for the Wii (which would break a trend set by the last two Nintendo consoles) but I doubt it would come out so soon after Galaxy. Nintendo tends to milk their releases for all they're worth before even thinking about a sequel.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 05, 2009, 04:59:30 AM
City Folk is a pretty sizeable leap from AC on GC. I'm not sure I could even go back to the limited scope of that game. I'm having way too much fun with people here!
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on February 05, 2009, 05:24:29 AM
A new IP from an obscure or unproven developer that is only be published by Nintendo is not as big of a deal as it lacks the guaranteed quality that a first party Nintendo title almost certainly will have.
Grr no. You just unintentionally or otherwise ripped on BWii. >.< That game is awesome.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 05, 2009, 01:01:32 PM
I would assume that a new Zelda would come before a new Mario. Twilight Princess is really a Gamecube game. They haven't made a Zelda specifically with the Wii in mind yet. You figure they would do that before making another Mario. I would be shocked if we got more than one Mario. The N64 and Gamecube each only had one.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 05, 2009, 02:29:14 PM
I would assume that a new Zelda would come before a new Mario. Twilight Princess is really a Gamecube game. They haven't made a Zelda specifically with the Wii in mind yet. You figure they would do that before making another Mario. I would be shocked if we got more than one Mario. The N64 and Gamecube each only had one.
Yes, Twilight Princess was pretty much the "Play on Wii" game in the series. They used it to test new ideas on the Wii and see how the audience would react to it. While it was a massive hit everywhere it pretty much flopped in Japan.
If they announce a new Zelda for the Wii I expect they will push it as a groundbreaking experience, probably leagues different from TP.
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Post by: Stogi on February 05, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
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If they announce a new Zelda for the Wii I expect they will push it as a groundbreaking experience, probably leagues different from TP.
We can only hope.
Still, while I don't think Zelda only can boost sales past the PS2. While Zelda is the best example of classic gaming, I fully expect Nintendo to announce another Wii____ series. My guess is Wii Health.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 05, 2009, 03:33:44 PM
If they announce a new Zelda for the Wii I expect they will push it as a groundbreaking experience, probably leagues different from TP.
We can only hope.
Still, while I don't think Zelda only can boost sales past the PS2. While Zelda is the best example of classic gaming, I fully expect Nintendo to announce another Wii____ series. My guess is Wii Health.
Wii Health is essentially Wii Fit.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 05, 2009, 03:38:58 PM
Miyamoto has hinted that they have another Mario in the works. The Wii has its share of similarities to the NES as has been pointed out, well the NES is the only Nintendo console to have more than one Mario game.
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Post by: Stogi on February 05, 2009, 04:29:36 PM
If they announce a new Zelda for the Wii I expect they will push it as a groundbreaking experience, probably leagues different from TP.
We can only hope.
Still, while I don't think Zelda only can boost sales past the PS2. While Zelda is the best example of classic gaming, I fully expect Nintendo to announce another Wii____ series. My guess is Wii Health.
Wii Health is essentially Wii Fit.
I know, but instead of calling it Wii Fit 2, they'll call it Wii Health. At least, I would.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on February 05, 2009, 05:37:01 PM
Miyamoto has hinted that they have another Mario in the works. The Wii has its share of similarities to the NES as has been pointed out, well the NES is the only Nintendo console to have more than one Mario game.
When Miyamoto says they have another Mario in the works, it just means that him and others are thinking of idea's for the next Mario, not that it's in development.
The only reason people think another Mario is in the works is because Nintendo has said the Mario Team is working on another title. The Mario Team in reality is Tokyo EAD, and all those comments meant is that Tokyo EAD is working on some game.
Nintendo just calls Tokyo EAD the Mario Team during certain interviews so the average person can realize who they are. Kind of like how Movie studio's have to say from the people who brought you this movie instead of the names of the actual people, since the average person only knows the product and not those behind the product.
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Post by: Dasmos on February 05, 2009, 09:44:56 PM
Miyamoto has hinted that they have another Mario in the works. The Wii has its share of similarities to the NES as has been pointed out, well the NES is the only Nintendo console to have more than one Mario game.
Well the SNES had Yoshi's Island which was basically Super Mario World 2.
Miyamoto has hinted that they have another Mario in the works. The Wii has its share of similarities to the NES as has been pointed out, well the NES is the only Nintendo console to have more than one Mario game.
When Miyamoto says they have another Mario in the works, it just means that him and others are thinking of idea's for the next Mario, not that it's in development.
The only reason people think another Mario is in the works is because Nintendo has said the Mario Team is working on another title. The Mario Team in reality is Tokyo EAD, and all those comments meant is that Tokyo EAD is working on some game.
Nintendo just calls Tokyo EAD the Mario Team during certain interviews so the average person can realize who they are. Kind of like how Movie studio's have to say from the people who brought you this movie instead of the names of the actual people, since the average person only knows the product and not those behind the product.
I'm pretty sure it was in Famitsu where Miyamoto expressed interest in making a Mario Galaxy 2, there's no way the'd released a Mario Galaxy 2 on the next console. It'd would be entirely different. So there are signs that a new Mario may be released on Wii.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 05, 2009, 10:28:05 PM
I hope the next Mario game is something along the lines of the Super Mario Bros. games from the NES days. Obviously, the DS has "New Super Mario Bros." and that's fine, but I want to see "Super Mario Bros. 4" which would be a completely new game and not a rehash. They should have the suits like in SMB3 where you could turn into a boot or a frog, because those were cool, but they should have new and exciting suits as well... like maybe a suit that turns Mario into a caterpillar or something, lol. Then he could weave himself into a cocoon and metamorph into a butterfly or something... that would be cool.
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Post by: Dasmos on February 05, 2009, 10:29:21 PM
NSMB a rehash? lol what?
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 06, 2009, 03:05:40 AM
I hope the next Mario game is something along the lines of the Super Mario Bros. games from the NES days. Obviously, the DS has "New Super Mario Bros." and that's fine, but I want to see "Super Mario Bros. 4" which would be a completely new game and not a rehash. They should have the suits like in SMB3 where you could turn into a boot or a frog, because those were cool, but they should have new and exciting suits as well... like maybe a suit that turns Mario into a caterpillar or something, lol. Then he could weave himself into a cocoon and metamorph into a butterfly or something... that would be cool.
1. NSMB was not a rehash. Sure, it's a bit closer to SMB1 because it had no flight item but IMO that makes the game better, flight items tend to allow a lot of breaking and often make the fireflower useless (because it doesn't work on most enemies...) 2. The suits were a confusing mess IMO, super-rare items that you got almost no opportunity to use. Yes, NSMB has the same with the micro and macro mushrooms and the blue shell but those were way more common than the suits (so there was no "oh no I mustn't use it because I can't get another!" feeling) and had more uses IMO with two of them being specifically for finding secrets and one being a kind of star power.
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Post by: Dasmos on February 06, 2009, 10:15:36 AM
NSMB is easily the best reason to own a DS. It's funny when you look back at the DS and there's nothing worth mentioning over NSMB. I mean there's plenty of awesome games, but there's nothing quite as encompassing as NSMB.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 06, 2009, 10:30:10 AM
That's because you haven't played Chou Soujuu Mecha MG.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 06, 2009, 01:10:50 PM
Clubhouse Games and Mario & Luigi are THE reasons to own a DS.
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Post by: Dasmos on February 06, 2009, 10:12:12 PM
So as you might of heard E3 will begin on June 2, 2009 Nintendo is going to have their media briefing start at 9:00 a.m on that day.
E3 is about 3 weeks away.
What staff are going?
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 08, 2009, 06:39:01 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M GOING TO BE IN THE AIRPORT.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 08, 2009, 06:42:03 PM
Well um maybe you can bring something that has a internet connection with you.
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 08, 2009, 06:43:57 PM
I will be in the first class lounge so i can try and keep up from there.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 08, 2009, 06:45:33 PM
Thats good to hear. ;D
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 08, 2009, 06:46:50 PM
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Can't believe it is only 3 weeks away. That is amazing.
I can't believe JUNE is only three weeks away. ****, 2009 still feels new to me. I'm thinking about things I did "recently" and it turns out they were in January.
It's actually pretty exciting to hear it's so close. I have mentioned this E3 being "do or die" for me as a Nintendo fan but thinking about it I'm excited. I WANT them to deliver the goods and although I'm skeptical there's still part of me thinking "what if they really deliver? Wouldn't that be awesome?! What if there's some game I just HAVE to have and will count the days until its release?!!" E3 used to be like Christmas morning for gamers and now it's back the way it's supposed to be. You can't help to get somewhat hyped up about that. :)
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Post by: Spinnzilla on May 08, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
I want a LOZ and Metroid cross over. KNIGHT VS. ROBOT.
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Post by: vudu on May 08, 2009, 06:51:58 PM
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 08, 2009, 07:45:01 PM
Call me crazy but I have these predictions for E3:
1. Pikmin 3 announced 2. SMG2 3. Retro game revealed (won't be out this year though) 4. Some crazy new 3rd party game that may be casual but is really cool like Boom Blox 5. A big 3rd party franchise coming to Wii 6. PS3 motion controller 7. Ian won't be happy regardless of what happens! ;)
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 08, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
My prediction for E3 is that the focus will be on Motion Plus. Once again there are rumors of both MS and Sony working on their own Wii Remote knock-offs and try to steal Nintendo's thunder. Motion Plus is a crucial step in re-invigorating the Wii market and inspired both games and developers to be excited for the Wii once more. Nintendo simply can't talk about, say, Wii Walk an forget that Motion Plus exists. The show HAS to be about it if they expect MP to be a hit.
Here's what I suspect...
Nintendo will demo the games that will be released around launch (the EA sports games, Virtua Tennis, Wii Sports Resorts), show some future third party games that use it (Red Steel 2) and close the show with a big IP that is made around MP. Sure we have Wii Sports Resort, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have another title waiting to be unveiled.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 08, 2009, 08:23:12 PM
My prediction for E3 is that the focus will be on Motion Plus. Once again there are rumors of both MS and Sony working on their own Wii Remote knock-offs and try to steal Nintendo's thunder. Motion Plus is a crucial step in re-invigorating the Wii market and inspired both games and developers to be excited for the Wii once more. Nintendo simply can't talk about, say, Wii Walk an forget that Motion Plus exists. The show HAS to be about it if they expect MP to be a hit.
Here's what I suspect...
Nintendo will demo the games that will be released around launch (the EA sports games, Virtua Tennis, Wii Sports Resorts), show some future third party games that use it (Red Steel 2) and close the show with a big IP that is made around MP. Sure we have Wii Sports Resort, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have another title waiting to be unveiled.
Fair predictions. One thing I think we can pretty much guarantee is that it will be a better show then last year. Nintendo has all but stated they screwed up with last E3 and with it being HUGE again I suspect a solid to good showing from them.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 08, 2009, 11:26:23 PM
Call me crazy but I have these predictions for E3:
1. Pikmin 3 announced 2. SMG2 3. Retro game revealed (won't be out this year though) 4. Some crazy new 3rd party game that may be casual but is really cool like Boom Blox 5. A big 3rd party franchise coming to Wii 6. PS3 motion controller 7. Ian won't be happy regardless of what happens! ;)
All I really need is the first two, sequels to two games in my personal top 10, to be happy. And 7 really isn't much of a prediction, every major third-party developer could have every one of their big titles coming to the Wii and Nintendo could unveil 8 new core gamer focused IPs but also announce Wii Fit 2 and all Ian would do is complain endlessly about Nintendo catering to the casuals with Wii Fit 2.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 09, 2009, 03:51:58 AM
Just needs MOAR DYNAMIC SLASH
E3 is nice but am I alone in thinking that the convention is an outdated approach for distributing information since we have the internet now and can release information to the wide masses at any time we want to? We have no need to keep quiet for the year and then give everyone information overload during a few days, causing people to miss tons of announcements because there's just so damn many.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 09, 2009, 06:49:25 AM
Nintendo has been quiet for a VEEEEERRRRRRYYYY long time. It's absolutely certain that they've been up to a lot of stuff, but just haven't got around to announcing anything. Mark my words, E3 will be the day where it all comes to light and we will finally find out what Nintendo's been quietly toiling away on.
This is not to say we might not be disappointed, though. While there are definitely big projects in the works, its still up in the air whether these projects are games that will interest hardcore Nintendo fans like me and Ian, or if they will be more of the Wii Sports crap that is responsible for most of Nintendo's financial success of late. Major stuff will be announced, of this there can be no doubt, but I just hope its major stuff that I'm actually interested in.
That said, I'm crossing my fingers for a new Wii Zelda game and a 2D Metroid.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 09, 2009, 07:49:11 AM
Wii Sports Resort will DEFINITELY be shown. Whether the hardcore will whine about it is up in the air but it's got the 1:1 swordfighting everybody's been asking for.
I think the long drought is evidence that Nintendo is indeed making more complex titles (I'm not sure I'd call them core, I wouldn't be surprised if they're the beginning of the "new core", more complex and game-ish games made using the Wii's primary values rather than old core game designs with some Wii controls shoehorned in) but again it's uncertain how people will react. The WMP will probably be the focus of the show with almost all new games demonstrating different uses of the thing to really hammer the point in that the thing IS the HD Wii upgrade people have been asking for (it just increases the definition of the controls instead of the graphics) and that it's really a must-have with awesome software that everybody wants. I think Nintendo has really been holding back on announcing WMP games so far, their only announcement was Wii Sports Resort but I doubt they'd support the WMP with only one game since third parties really can't be trusted with that.
Last E3 Nintendo showed the hardware to preempt hardware whores from heaping praise on the competition should it decide to unveil its own Wiimote rip-off, this E3 Nintendo will show the software to really drive the WMP and simply crush all opposition that might arise under an onslaught of software that cannot be matched. I mean, think about it: Had MS or Sony gone in with a Wiimote clone (obviously with a gyroscope included as it's more feasible now than back when the Wiimote was created) and a few games last E3 they could have hit Nintendo during a drought and potentially delivered one or two killer apps to establish their own position. This E3, if Sony or MS try to go in with a Wiimote ripoff, not only will they have to face the technologically upgraded Wiimote so they can't promise better motion controls, they'd have their few games that they could prepare until now go up against a full volley of games that probably had more dev time, more experience and more sheer numbers. Nintendo can commit fully to the WMP since even gamers without one could use the fallback option in games that provide it as the Wiimote can at least approach the WMP's features. If MS or Sony committed that much* they'd risk splitting their market, their default controller cannot be a suitable replacement for their Wiimote clones, they cannot bundle it as easily because it's going to be a lot more expensive than a little dongle that plugs into an existing controller. Sony and MS would have to divide their attention between the new and old controller. Sure, they could say "screw the old way, we're replacing our controller completely" but their userbase would scream bloody murder and I'm certain they don't even WANT to do that. This isn't a PS1 controller upgrade, they can't add fallbacks, it's all or nothing.
This is a step of the disruption, going upmarket. Nintendo wants to take Sony and MS's territory but on their own terms, not on theirs. As such the development must be games that appeal to the people who currently make up the core market to siphon them away yet it must do so in different ways or it's facing a straight power struggle between the incumbent and the disruptor and that's not a battle the disruptor wants to fight. This is blitzkrieg, not attrition. People are right in that Nintendo is behind in the core market, that's the point. They cannot fight MS and Sony head on in the core market. However there is only a core market, not a core gamer. The gamer is in whatever market appeals to him and by creating a different market that also appeals to him the gamer can be conquered without ever setting foot on the core battlefield.
Yes, that came out longer than I thought but by following these thoughts I further my own understanding as well...
*=leaving aside that both have less development capacities than Nintendo
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 09, 2009, 07:56:11 AM
GORED
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2009, 07:56:54 AM
very well put, I understand and agree.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 09, 2009, 03:11:50 PM
E3 is nice but am I alone in thinking that the convention is an outdated approach for distributing information since we have the internet now and can release information to the wide masses at any time we want to? We have no need to keep quiet for the year and then give everyone information overload during a few days, causing people to miss tons of announcements because there's just so damn many.
You are probably the only one. E3 has been around for such a long time that I doubt companies would announce their biggest games before it. The backlash the show received last year is proof that they do see it as the IT place to make announcements and make a big show about it.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on May 10, 2009, 09:00:09 PM
Call me crazy but I have these predictions for E3:
1. Pikmin 3 announced
This was announced last year. Maybe you mean "unveiled". Miyamoto already announced the game, but we know zero details about it.
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Post by: kraken613 on May 10, 2009, 10:56:31 PM
I wish E3 was just a week later. I will still be in school and will miss the Nintendo conference live. Ill have to read one of the live-blogs when I get home that day.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 10, 2009, 11:21:48 PM
I wish E3 was just a week later. I will still be in school and will miss the Nintendo conference live. Ill have to read one of the live-blogs when I get home that day.
I couldn't take it if it were a week later, E3 is already too much news and WWDC is the week after E3 bringing more big news.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 12:07:24 PM
News are a replacement for real games, amirite
People should skip buying games for the next couple months.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 11, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
People should skip buying games for the next couple months.
Too many good games coming out for that, I'll probably buy at least 5 or 6 Wii games between now and the end of June.
I know, so true =D
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2009, 01:35:59 PM
I'm less convinced that Sony and MS are going to bust out their own Wiimote rip-off. I think they would have done that sooner. By now they might figure they should just stay the course with their traditional controller. They haven't lost their third party support to Nintendo and that's got to give them some confidence. Nintendo kicks their ass but they don't really lose any support or any big games? Their lineup is pretty much exactly the same as it would be if the Wii didn't even exist. And the PS3 outsold the Wii in Japan for the first time recently. There is evidence to suggest that the Wii is tapping a different market and that might make them put off rushing their own remotes to the market.
Or they're just waiting to see what Nintendo does with Motion+. Nintendo hasn't released anything that requires the remote that has had the same impact as Wii Sports. So Sony and MS might be betting that the concept is a one-trick pony and they might not NEED it. But if Nintendo wows the world with Motion+ it's like "okay we DO need something like this. This IS the future of gaming and we require it to compete" Right now it's more like that Wii Sports controller.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 01:40:13 PM
It's also the most successful racing controller of all time for the most successful racing game of all time.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on May 11, 2009, 01:53:02 PM
If Sony and Microsoft sold a motion controller I really don't see how it could sale unless they did a pack in deadl. Which would so be in Sony's court as they already sale piles of PS3's as it is.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2009, 02:26:31 PM
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It's also the most successful racing controller of all time for the most successful racing game of all time.
Yeah but Mario Kart Wii doesn't NEED it. The game controls fine without it and every other Mario Kart game didn't need it. If Sony or MS want to make their own kart racer they can (and on the Playstation Sony did with Crash Team Racing). However nothing resembling Wii Sports can be done on the PS3 or X360. But it's really the only huge Wii hit game that's like that. Now Wii Sports Resort will also be impossible on those consoles and hopefully other Motion+ games will as well. But that's the big question mark. I don't think Sony or MS give a **** that Boom Blox and Zack & Wiki can't be done on their consoles. They likely do care about Wii Sports and its upcoming sequel. But if that's IT, if that's really the only thing their missing I doubt they think it's quite as necessary for them to have their own remote.
It isn't like they're losing their third party suipport to the Wii because they can't compete with the remote. It isn't like some new industry standard that you're fucked if you don't have.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 02:45:26 PM
"Yeah but Mario Kart Wii doesn't NEED it."
And if you play online, you'll see players voluntarily USE IT ANYWAY, overwhelmingly outnumber other online non-wheel players (2, 1, or none at all in a random worldwide race in a random time of day, WAAAY different than what I saw a year ago).
That's not mere acceptance, that's a massive SHIFT. This is going away from base product "needs/requirements" to showing what customers actually WANT or are already ACCUSTOMED TO despite being presented with a CHOICE. The direction is clear.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 02:58:33 PM
And as for Sony and MS, sure they seem to be in 'comfy' positions, but how can they be content 1) overwhelmingly not being the Market Leader and 2) having stagnant market performance in an environment of high (and rising) production costs?
WHAT can be their next moves?
Introduce some hook product to expand their audience? (dilute brand attitude/direction?)
Or jump the gun and start the new generation to include that hook product from the get-go? (eat even-higher dev costs sooner than later? or go the Wii path and NOT substantially upgrade the hardware components?)
Otherwise, do nothing drastic and try to ride whatever wave they currently have, declaring themselves early losers in their 15-YAER CONSOLE LIFE CYCLES plans.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2009, 03:26:27 PM
Sony is stuck between a rock and a mountain. They want piece of that casual market (motion controls. wiisports, simple games), but they can't afford more failure and alienating their core userbase. Sony needs PS3 to become profitable before moving on as their business model has been shaped around being #1 with a large userbase and all the 3rd party support. That made eating losses eventually profitable in the long run.
If anybody(between the 2) is in a position to take a financial risk and release a new controller(maybe with a new console as standard) it is MS. I'd be surprised to not hear something about a new console for Xmas 2010 from MS anyway, that is their 5 year mark afterall.
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Post by: kraken613 on May 11, 2009, 03:48:06 PM
What time will the Nintendo press conference be? I just thought about that I will record it on G4 and make sure not to pay attention to any news until I get home from school and ill come right home and watch!
Will Microsoft will be the night before like it has for the past few years? And Sonys after Nintendos?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 03:54:39 PM
June 3, 9AM Eastern
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 03:59:01 PM
Sony is stuck between a rock and a mountain. They want piece of that casual market (motion controls. wiisports, simple games), but they can't afford more failure and alienating their core userbase. Sony needs PS3 to become profitable before moving on as their business model has been shaped around being #1 with a large userbase and all the 3rd party support. That made eating losses eventually profitable in the long run.
If anybody(between the 2) is in a position to take a financial risk and release a new controller(maybe with a new console as standard) it is MS. I'd be surprised to not hear something about a new console for Xmas 2010 from MS anyway, that is their 5 year mark afterall.
I remember reading somewhere a theory that the next Xbox would be coming in 2010 or 2011. They based this off of the 360 extended warranty expiration. After the RROD outbreak Microsoft issued extended warranties to 360 that ran out in 2010/11 and some people had theories that they chose this certain date because that was when they planned to release their new consoles.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 04:13:47 PM
Righto.
They could just announce the NextBox which is two 360s duct taped together, with standard motion controller and actual backwards compatibility.
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Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 04:21:54 PM
They could just announce the NextBox which is two 360s duct taped together, with standard motion controller and actual backwards compatibility.
Thats basically what I imagine they will do. Xbox 365 with native 1080p support and stats bumped up enough to support it. 4-8gb of built in memory & specialized HDD add-ons for added storage. Standard motion control system (probably by external camera) with gyros in a snap apart controller. games are made to scale (360<-->365 compatible) like computer games do today. priced at cost $299 (more likely $349 for slight profit and room to price drop) & comes with a glorified demo.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 04:32:36 PM
And despite all that, it'll compete head to head with Wii for new-generation marketshare.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 11, 2009, 04:51:30 PM
Predictions for E3:
1) Mario and Luigi 3 playable, NA title revealed. 2) A new Mario DS game (unlikely) 3) A new Mario Wii game (very unlikely) 4) Pikmin 3 (maybe...) 5) Star Fox Wii (Extremely unlikely, wishful thinking) 6) Nintendo buys Amusement Vision and Mario & Sonic developer from Sega, makes them do useful things (but still make Sega games, just under better guidance) ^HAHAHAH NO HAHAHAHA^
Better to do a 'wait-see' then get all fired up about something that won't happen. I think E3 2008 cemented that well.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2009, 05:03:59 PM
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And as for Sony and MS, sure they seem to be in 'comfy' positions, but how can they be content 1) overwhelmingly not being the Market Leader and 2) having stagnant market performance in an environment of high (and rising) production costs?
Nintendo stayed put with the N64 and just rode it out until next gen. Going with cartridges had rendered their console incapable of competing for the top spot. They hypothetically could have introduced a CD drive to match the competition but didn't. But Nintendo probably was profitable which makes a big difference. But creating a new controller isn't going to make Sony's Blu-Ray drive suddenly cost less to make.
When you're missing a feature I'd say the biggest threat is losing games to the competition; when the competing consoles are getting all sorts of games you're missing out on because they just can't be done on your console. Right now the Wii is the console with this problem because it's a glorified Gamecube 1.5. Sony and MS might not be number one but they can say "we've got this game and this one and this one..." The Wii is missing out on TONS of great games because it can't compete in hardware performance but the other consoles are not missing out on much because of the remote.
Aside from Dragon Quest X are there ANY third party games that Sony and MS are shitting bricks about not having? The most threatening Wii games are first party and Sony and MS never could get those anyway. It isn't like when Nintendo didn't have CDs and was completely shittered in terms of exclusives because so many games were being made that required the CD medium. So at first Sony and MS were probably freaked of the remote because Wii Sports was leading the way and the Wii was selling like sex. But that was when there was so much potential for the remote. It was so unknown and thus scary to the competition. But now it's a few years later and Wii Sports is, well, still pretty much the golden standard of Wiimote usage. Third parties haven't abandoned the competition to embrace the Wiimote. The Wiimote has not proven to be a new controller standard. So for Sony and MS what's the rush in releasing their own knock-off? Now Motion+ is the unknown so that may change things but right now the Wiimote is pretty much the Wii Sports controller and superior hardware specs are "winning" in regards to third party support.
Regarding next gen I really question why we need one. Nintendo obviously does since the Wii can't even support HD and that is without a doubt a future requirement. But for the other consoles? Why go through the whole mess of releasing hardware that is too costly to profit on again? Let the current stuff ride so that it becomes cheaper to make and can become profitable.
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Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 05:26:48 PM
Ian, I think with the N64 Nintendo was banking on the 64DD giving them that leg up on the pile compared to the CD based systems. When development on that stalled and bombed they were stuck with no alternative backup plan.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2009, 05:30:15 PM
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Regarding next gen I really question why we need one. Nintendo obviously does since the Wii can't even support HD and that is without a doubt a future requirement. But for the other consoles? Why go through the whole mess of releasing hardware that is too costly to profit on again? Let the current stuff ride so that it becomes cheaper to make and can become profitable.
That is exactly what Sony would want to happen (they need to turn a profit on PS3, the company as a whole is hurting right now) & that is exactly why MS would release a new console, because they can afford it and Sony can't. MS's goal is to push Sony out of the game for livingroom dominance. A new console would provide just the hype thats necessary to kick Sony while they are down.
Nintendo has the most room to grow, and a WiiHD during Xmas 2011 which is basically a Wii that can handle 720p without issue... basically a 360 level Wii.
Nintendo has no reason to rush & Sony would love to put on the brakes, but MS is gonna force Sony's hand and Nintendo's been holding one hand behind its back the whole time.
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Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 05:33:23 PM
Imagine the chaos, confusion and general all-around pandemonium that would ensue if Nintendo announced an HDWii. I know not now and not at this E3, but in a year or two, especially if the Wii continues to slump in Japan like it is they might just try something like that for 2011/12.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 06:23:27 PM
1. "Riding it out" apparently works when you're profiting. I believe MS still hasn't made up for the cumulative losses incurred since the first Xbox. Profit is not a big deal for MS cuz they're not in it for profit (it's to block Sony), but health is still important. Sony is badly in need of positive $$$. When's the time to stop riding and take action? Make a significant, costly impact to your current platform concept or take a costly dive in bringing the next platform now?
2. If there's so many great third party games in the HD yard, why aren't YOU buying them? I'll tell you what Sony and MS are shitting bricks about not having: the amount of customers Wii has. And that leads to...
3. We might not need a "next gen" soon, because Nintendo doesn't need it... However Sony and MS may need it. A perspective that's hilarious: Sony and MS are the ones who need to sell ANOTHER WHOPPING GENERATIONS's worth of "high end consoles" to catch up to (or beat) Wii's sales to this date. I know it's not realistic to compete with a "last generation" install base but it was important to them to lead the way in the movement for a modern "high end gaming" ``standard`` of handicapped living room PCs, but laffo, the standard is now Balancing Soccer Grandmas. They'll have to "ride it out" just to fulfill the Bell-curve life cycle to justify bringing new platforms. But they're not in the best position to ride it out, Nintendo is. What if Wii rides it out? (and they probably will!) Look at the sales: there is no one "bubble" to burst cuz each bubble grows a new tumor bubble, and the competition can't keep up dealing with the older bubble, unaware there's always a tumor bubble growing in succession.
By suggesting Wii get a next-gen successor to "catch up" to PS3/360 features, are you seriously telling us that another hardware generation is just defined by shinier graphics, more bots, and extra storage space? Is that what it boils down to? "IAN WANTS "MODERN" GAMES. IAN WON'T BUY "MODERN" SYSTEM. IAN WHINES ABOUT NOT HAVING "MODERN" GAMES." WTF!
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 11, 2009, 06:43:05 PM
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Nintendo has the most room to grow, and a WiiHD during Xmas 2011 which is basically a Wii that can handle 720p without issue... basically a 360 level Wii.
This is why we'll get another generation from the other consoles. If Nintendo holds on to the number one spot and then releases a console that actually can compete hardware-wise with the other consoles then Sony and MS lose what is by far their biggest advantage. The huge hardware gap is their only advantage over the Wii. So they have to ensure that Nintendo is a step behind.
But I don't think WE as gamers need one. MS might choose to go further but I don't think at this point we need to. The graphic detail is such that the effort to make better graphics couldn't possibly be cost effective. We're arguably at the point where games with really knock-out graphics are too expensive to make anyway. The is the first time I can think of where the idea of games being too expensive to make has ever been a realistic issue. So to push that further would be idiocy. I don't think last gen is where we should have stopped like Nintendo seems to think but we can support HD now and our consoles are online and we've got motion controls now (adding them doesn't need a new console). Until we get to virtual reality where's the requirement to go further? Last gen at least we could say that our consoles couldn't make use of HD and didn't have fully developed online models and had visuals that didn't match up to PC games. Right now what requirements are the current consoles (minus the Wii of course) not meeting to necessitate new hardware?
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If there's so many great third party games in the HD yard, why aren't YOU buying them?
Well I don't have a PS3 or Xbox 360 so why would I buy games for a console I don't own? I'm giving Nintendo a chance to retain my loyalty with this E3... and the other consoles are pretty expensive and I want a damn price cut.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Bah, OK I'll hold off a bit until after E3, if I'm not banned.
Just realize an HD Wii will only be a GameCube 3.11 for Workgroups (LAN enabled to coincide with new LAN games).
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Post by: Louieturkey on May 11, 2009, 07:03:56 PM
360 Gamer is $200, cheaper then a Wii. Ian has no excuse now about price. What's the next excuse? Probably about the HDD though it is not required to play 98% of 360 games.
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Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
Bah, OK I'll hold off a bit until after E3, if I'm not banned.
Just realize an HD Wii will only be a GameCube 3.11 for Workgroups (LAN enabled to coincide with new LAN games).
LAN games won't work because Nintendo made the firewall to restrictive :P
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 07:09:04 PM
E3 stands for the "Electronic Entertainment Expo."
I'd better be freaking ENTERTAINED.
I hope: 1. Sony and MS announce new motion controls and show how horribly bad they implement them. 2. 3rd parties show new, interesting Lotion Puss game projects. I'm not interested in existing long-running main-series franchise crap (the way 3rd parties handled them make them lost causes), I want to see new ideas and experiences. 3. Nintendo shows off their key franchise properties (Mario, Pikmin, Zelda; Metroid is no more, mind you), ruining them thru casualization. All those Pretendo fans will abandon ship and cry themselves to sleep. Glorious Day. 4. Nintendo will open up LAN for partner projects. Imagine Horsez' equivalent to The Conduit in an Animal Crossing type game will probably make use of it.
I expect to see hilarity and chaos on all platform fronts.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 07:11:59 PM
360 Gamer is $200, cheaper then a Wii. Ian has no excuse now about price. What's the next excuse? Probably about the HDD though it is not required to play 98% of 360 games.
Oh my, is that a sign that Wii has greater VALUE than a modern video game system?
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Post by: Mop it up on May 11, 2009, 07:14:50 PM
There had better be at least one new Mario game announced at E3 or a certain mop-obsessed forumer will not be happy.
Mario Party used to be a yearly release, where's Mario Party 9 already? It's bad enough I had to go through 2006 without one, but then 2008 went by, and now we're almost halfway through 2009 and still nothing. Get with the program, Hudson!
What is Camelot working on these days? They should sign on for a new Mario Golf and Tennis game. The Wiilease of Mario Power Tennis on Wii is not good enough because it wasn't designed with Wii in mind. However, it gives a glimpse of how good the game could be on Wii, so a sequel is warranted. Throw in some new courts and characters, add in some minigames designed around the Wiimote, and toss in online play, and that's one heck of a sequel. Ditto for Mario Golf. They'd probably throw in Wii Motion Plus support to try and sell that thing too, but if Tiger Woods '10 is any indication, it should be optional.
How about a Wii sequel to Mario Hoops? They could probably come up with a creative control scheme using the Wiimote's IR pointer, and the multiplayer alone would give it much more value than the DS original. I don't think it sold very well though so this is quite unlikely.
Maybe some other sport which Mario and co. haven't tackled yet could work. I don't know, I'm not a game designer, it isn't my job to think of these things.
There will probably be more details on Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, but I hope that isn't all in the way of Mario on Wii.
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Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 07:22:30 PM
Maybe some other sport which Mario and co. haven't tackled yet could work. I don't know, I'm not a game designer, it isn't my job to think of these things.
I think you've already thought of one: American Football. Even Rugby would be interesting and have more of a global appeal.
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Post by: King of Twitch on May 11, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
I don't care about HD, so is it too much to ask for games with trees that aren't cookie cutouts? Give me arbor sculptural individualism or give me death
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 11, 2009, 07:50:09 PM
There had better be at least one new Mario game announced at E3 or a certain mop-obsessed forumer will not be happy.
Mario Party used to be a yearly release, where's Mario Party 9 already? It's bad enough I had to go through 2006 without one, but then 2008 went by, and now we're almost halfway through 2009 and still nothing. Get with the program, Hudson!
What is Camelot working on these days? They should sign on for a new Mario Golf and Tennis game. The Wiilease of Mario Power Tennis on Wii is not good enough because it wasn't designed with Wii in mind. However, it gives a glimpse of how good the game could be on Wii, so a sequel is warranted. Throw in some new courts and characters, add in some minigames designed around the Wiimote, and toss in online play, and that's one heck of a sequel. Ditto for Mario Golf. They'd probably throw in Wii Motion Plus support to try and sell that thing too, but if Tiger Woods '10 is any indication, it should be optional.
How about a Wii sequel to Mario Hoops? They could probably come up with a creative control scheme using the Wiimote's IR pointer, and the multiplayer alone would give it much more value than the DS original. I don't think it sold very well though so this is quite unlikely.
Maybe some other sport which Mario and co. haven't tackled yet could work. I don't know, I'm not a game designer, it isn't my job to think of these things.
There will probably be more details on Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games, but I hope that isn't all in the way of Mario on Wii.
I've been thinking lately that we're about due for another Mario Party, having had 2 years without one. Hopefully in that time they revamped the series as it was getting a bit stale. It's too bad that they can't focus too much on MotionPlus because I think that could make for some great minigames.
Of course, the Mario game I really want is Super Mario Galaxy: The Lost Levels.
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Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
I wonder if that is part of it. Motion Plus comes out in June so this holiday they release a Motion Plus specific Mario Party to supplement people buying WSR. Of course it could be played w/o the M+ but having a good two dozen mini-games included that activated if you had M+ plugged in could be a great way to ease people into using it.
I am in love with your idea of a SMG: Lost Levels title. Or even one where you made a bunch of those bonus levels from Mario Sunshine where Mario was w/o his squirt gun.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 11, 2009, 08:11:43 PM
The way I see MotionPlus being implemented in MP9 is like the Microphone in MP6, a lot of 1 vs. 3 minigames with the 1 player using MotionPlus.
Oh, and the other Mario game I want is a WiiWare game full of a bunch of levels like the ones in Galaxy with Mario in a bubble and you use the pointer to blow him around. I loved those and really wished there were more.
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Post by: Mop it up on May 11, 2009, 08:15:23 PM
I've been thinking lately that we're about due for another Mario Party, having had 2 years without one. Hopefully in that time they revamped the series as it was getting a bit stale. It's too bad that they can't focus too much on MotionPlus because I think that could make for some great minigames.
I don't think they need to go with Wii Motion Plus with Mario Party 9, there are still many advancements they could make using current Wii features, such as things which they could do with the Wiimote + Nunchuk combination since MP8 used only the Wiimote. Requiring 4 Wii Motion Plus accessories so soon after its launch is quite a hurdle, but after all of this time many people have as many Nunchuks as Wiimotes. Save Wii Motion Plus for the eventual Mario Party 10.
Oh, and the other Mario game I want is a WiiWare game full of a bunch of levels like the ones in Galaxy with Mario in a bubble and you use the pointer to blow him around. I loved those and really wished there were more.
When I played that the first time, I thought "this would make an awesome Mario Party minigame". It needs to be multiplayer because it just isn't as fun with nobody around to laugh at your failing miserably at it.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 11, 2009, 08:19:40 PM
Oh, and the other Mario game I want is a WiiWare game full of a bunch of levels like the ones in Galaxy with Mario in a bubble and you use the pointer to blow him around. I loved those and really wished there were more.
When I played that the first time, I thought "this would make an awesome Mario Party minigame". It needs to be multiplayer because it just isn't as fun with nobody around to laugh at your failing miserably at it.
I failed miserably a lot in the Ball rolling one and some in the Manta Ray surfing one but I don't think I ever did in those ones.
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Post by: Louieturkey on May 11, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
It took me a few tries to get the 100 coins in the bone yard area fast enough. I bounced off the bumpers too much.
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Post by: Mop it up on May 11, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
Oh, and the other Mario game I want is a WiiWare game full of a bunch of levels like the ones in Galaxy with Mario in a bubble and you use the pointer to blow him around. I loved those and really wished there were more.
When I played that the first time, I thought "this would make an awesome Mario Party minigame". It needs to be multiplayer because it just isn't as fun with nobody around to laugh at your failing miserably at it.
I failed miserably a lot in the Ball rolling one and some in the Manta Ray surfing one but I don't think I ever did in those ones.
I misread your post, I thought you were talking about the ball-rolling ones. :-[ Yeah, the bubble ones weren't so bad because it was a lot easier to control. As an aside, there is a game for the Game Boy called Bubble Ghost which plays exactly like the bubble-blowing parts of Super Mario Galaxy.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 11, 2009, 09:26:30 PM
I was eating some "Sour Punch Exploderz" candy just now, and to my disappointment they weren't sour enough.
A sign of things to come this E3?
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Post by: Peachylala on May 11, 2009, 10:01:13 PM
Candy and Nintendo's E3 showing being compared? Only Pro can do it!
1. Yes it will be funny. Ripping Nintendo off is always funny. 2. Sorry Pro, 3rd parties are not that giving. 3. Mario Galaxy was casual? HOLY **** NINTENDO IS RUINING THEM!!111 4. Stop giving Ubi ideas, Pro.
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Post by: Mop it up on May 12, 2009, 02:42:22 AM
I was eating some "Sour Punch Exploderz" candy just now, and to my disappointment they weren't sour enough.
A sign of things to come this E3?
I'm not sure what you mean by this but those candies are awesome. A sign that there will be mixed reactions at E3?
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Post by: King of Twitch on May 12, 2009, 03:04:44 AM
People are anticipating a mouth-exploding slew of Wii games but Mutton Pluck and Sin and Punishment 2 will only go so far
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 12, 2009, 05:29:11 AM
I want a significant PS3 price drop. I am a price sensitive consumer... MAKE ME TINGLE SONY.
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Post by: Deguello on May 12, 2009, 06:36:40 AM
There are some things I would like to see in particular at this years E3, both in a general industry sense and a Nintendo fan sense.
First, I'd like to see two... "embargoes," if you will, end and die in a fire. The first is the Japan/America Embargo, that being rock jawesome Wii games never coming over here for... some reason. Like Namco's Fragile, for instance. Also I would like to see Japanese developers take an interest in their own damn homeland and support the market leader there, which leads me to the second Embargo, that being the embargo of effort/big franchises from the Wii. At this point, it's either an intense stupidity or a childish grudge, and either way it must stop. Nintendo even proved that they could launch a pretty weak late '08 lineup and still beat both your half-assed Wii lineups and most of your full effort PS360 games as far as sales are concerned. Now imagine they have a much stronger line-up with the buzz of the Wii Motion Plus and the buying force of the largest userbase. Releasing a bunch of minigame-fests and party games is definitely not the answer, and such behavior is even the basis of that Rabbids Go Home Trailer. Also, the sequels to your cash-ins aren't selling at all. Man up, put your best people on Wii projects. Oh yeah, and don't expect the massive Wii userbase to simply by your game for existing. Be proud of it, market it thoroughly. Don't ship them under cover of night with ninja truck drivers. Don't tuck them into the back of your portfolio like they are diseased. And this goes double for Japanese devs, who seem to basically ignore their own market, condemn consoles to death and sell out to American gamer interests, all because they stupidly don't want to support the Wii... for some reason. The funny thing is, if you guys simply be yourselves, you'll get more access to more American gamers than simply being posers, cuz you know, Wii's #1 here too.
Treat Wii owners like second-class gamers, and you'll get second-class dollars, is all I'm saying. There's a reason Nintendo's pulling down a ton of money and you aren't.
As a Nintendo fan, well... I'd like to see a lot of money spread around. Of course I'd like a new Zelda and such, and whatever Retro's up to, and Mario and Luigi 3 make it over. That's all I really need. But in relation t the above points, I want to see a veritable avalanche of software, almost leading up to next year's E3. you've let the third parties blow every opportunity. Now it's time to ensure your console has a quality lineup, if they won't. Treat them like first-class gamers, and you'll get, you know.
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Post by: Dasmos on May 12, 2009, 09:48:45 AM
i want f-zero i want pilotwings i want 1080 i want waverace
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Post by: D_Average on May 12, 2009, 10:43:00 AM
I'm setting my hopes at rock bottom this year in the hopes I'll walk away delighted. That said, I'm forcing myself to expect Wii Music 2 and Rayman Raving Rabbits Invade Wind Waker.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 12, 2009, 11:32:06 AM
When exactly is the conference anyway? I mean the time, preferrably in GMT.
I don't think an HD Wii would make sense, it'd pretty much reset the userbase while only improving the parts the Wii userbase doesn't care about anyway.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 12, 2009, 11:45:03 AM
It would be rad if Nintendo bought some 3rd parties, just to ruin them, like they did to Monolith (effectively preventing them from making any RPGs for other systems).
Totally.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 12, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
Pro, they made Xenosaga III, so techinically they ruined themselves before Nintendo bought them.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 12, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
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There had better be at least one new Mario game announced at E3 or a certain mop-obsessed forumer will not be happy.
I think this is a pretty safe bet. Since the Gamecube era I don't think a year has gone by where Nintendo hasn't released at least one console game with Mario in it. I'd be more shocked to see Nintendo start to use some restraint and restrict Mario to only a handful of series to make his appearances more special.
I completely agree with Deg. There is nothing I would want more for the Wii than for third parties to get their **** together. I would be less hard on Nintendo if third parties were giving the Wii their big games. Because of the weak third party support I have to look to Nintendo to provide me with Wii games I actually want to play (like on the N64 and Gamecube). Nintendo's weak E3 last year wouldn't have mattered as much if all the big third party games that came out of the other consoles last year had been made for the Wii instead. I obviously want Nintendo to make great games too but their non-gaming endeavors wouldn't be so irritating if third parties could pick up the slack. When Nintendo is the ONLY Wii developer I can rely on to make anything worth a **** then, yeah, I'm going to want ALL of their projects to be core games. Third parties bring their big guns to the table and Nintendo releasing only one or two games a year I'm interested in is more acceptable.
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Post by: Pale on May 12, 2009, 02:21:55 PM
I want to see Wii Fit 2 with a fleshed out and fun "routine" mode. I've been playing Shaun White lately and it has me hankering for more balance board love.
I know I'll get flamed, but meh, I want to see a jaw dropping Kid Icarus for Wii. Something that really makes me long for that game.
I'd also like to see a big third party series (besides Monster Hunter) make a shift to the Wii. That could be Square actually showing Dragon Quest 10, but I'd like something totally unannounced to this point. I think that should be is Kingdom Hearts 3 with Nintendo themed worlds. Some other candidates would be Okami 2 (assuming they could get a competent team together to do it), Pixel Junk series (I'm not sure if that's even legally possible), etc.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2009, 02:29:17 PM
I don't know about WiiFit2, but it there has been mention of WiiFit+ which I'm assuming makes use of the wiimote, nunchuck & M+ for more varied exercises & minigames. Possibly even multiplayer exercises & games. that is definitely something I'm on the lookout for.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 12, 2009, 04:23:10 PM
Nintendo does need to announce more games that make use of the balance board. If they don't, it will just be another "one hit" peripheral in the same way that R.O.B. and the Zapper were. When you consider the price of the balance board you can see why someone would be reluctant to invest in that if there is only a total of two games that make any use of it.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 12, 2009, 04:32:54 PM
Nintendo does need to announce more games that make use of the balance board. If they don't, it will just be another "one hit" peripheral in the same way that R.O.B. and the Zapper were. When you consider the price of the balance board you can see why someone would be reluctant to invest in that if there is only a total of two games that make any use of it.
Zelda and Pikmin using the balance board would be AMAZING.
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Post by: King of Twitch on May 12, 2009, 04:35:31 PM
I don't know she seems fit enough to me
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
Nintendo does need to announce more games that make use of the balance board. If they don't, it will just be another "one hit" peripheral in the same way that R.O.B. and the Zapper were. When you consider the price of the balance board you can see why someone would be reluctant to invest in that if there is only a total of two games that make any use of it.
But there are atleast a dozen or two games that support the Balance Board and not all of them are fitness games. I'm sure WiiWare has plenty of games that support the Balance Board too, so I know its not just a case of 4-5 games that support the Balance Board.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 12, 2009, 05:06:40 PM
No what they really need to do is release the BB as a STANDALONE accessory so I can buy one without paying NINTY BUCKS. Jeeezz I own two BB games and they are great, when I have a balance board.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2009, 06:39:41 PM
Just make the plunge. WiiFit is fun & some of the games are a challenge to master.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 12, 2009, 07:28:28 PM
I'd also like to see a big third party series (besides Monster Hunter) make a shift to the Wii. That could be Square actually showing Dragon Quest 10, but I'd like something totally unannounced to this point. I think that should be is Kingdom Hearts 3 with Nintendo themed worlds.
Don't know why, but I am expecting KH 3 to hit the PS3. No offense but it sounds like a fanboy's wet dream come true.
However, I would like to see a TRUE Nintendo crossover game. No, the Subspace Emissary in Brawl does not count.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 12, 2009, 07:30:49 PM
I'd also like to see a big third party series (besides Monster Hunter) make a shift to the Wii. That could be Square actually showing Dragon Quest 10, but I'd like something totally unannounced to this point. I think that should be is Kingdom Hearts 3 with Nintendo themed worlds.
Don't know why, but I am expecting KH 3 to hit the PS3. No offense but it sounds like a fanboy's wet dream come true.
However, I would like to see a TRUE Nintendo crossover game. No, the Subspace Emissary in Brawl does not count.
I'd rather see KH3 on PS3 or Xbox 360. ::hides::
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Post by: Peachylala on May 12, 2009, 10:39:26 PM
Sorry, but after that plot disaster that was Subspace Fanfictionary, I don't want to see the KH writer touch my favorite Nintendo characters, ever.
I personaly think that a cross-over game might not work, but then again, people said that KH wouldn't work. It does, except for the bad gameplay. =/
Can't always get what you want.
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Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on May 13, 2009, 12:54:34 AM
Our show will be one to remember, so prepare to get launched into the upper stratosphere. Or punted. Whichever you choose. :reggie:
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 13, 2009, 01:10:28 AM
hey i scout redmond washington everyday and i never see your bulging ass.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2009, 01:15:55 AM
He's relocated to San Francisco?
I'm still waiting on Nintendo to open up a Nintendo World Store in SF.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 13, 2009, 09:17:59 AM
I'd also like to see a big third party series (besides Monster Hunter) make a shift to the Wii. That could be Square actually showing Dragon Quest 10, but I'd like something totally unannounced to this point. I think that should be is Kingdom Hearts 3 with Nintendo themed worlds.
Don't know why, but I am expecting KH 3 to hit the PS3. No offense but it sounds like a fanboy's wet dream come true.
However, I would like to see a TRUE Nintendo crossover game. No, the Subspace Emissary in Brawl does not count.
I'd rather see KH3 on PS3 or Xbox 360. ::hides::
Makes sense to me, might as well watch long cutscenes in HD right?
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Post by: Pale on May 13, 2009, 09:21:27 AM
I would agree with GP if I wasn't holding out hope for Nintendo characters. If it IS on Wii, I don't see any reason for them not to do it, unless Disney throws a fit about not being the "stars" anymore.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 13, 2009, 04:56:39 PM
Why is everyone assuming that if Square Enix incorporates Nintendo characters into a game it has to be Kingdom Hearts? Why can't they just make a Super Mario RPG kind of project but expand it to cover the entire Nintendo universe? Why not make a completely NEW game for a Nintendo crossover and thus not have to deal with Disney or adhere to the gameplay model of an established series? There's no reason to have to shoehorn this concept into Kingdom Hearts.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2009, 05:15:22 PM
Square will crossover with Zelda.
Kill me now.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 13, 2009, 06:30:16 PM
Can Nintendo go lower then Twilight PlotExcuse?
I seriously think they can't, unless they get Yoshiaki Koizumi to write the story again (it will never happen).
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Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on May 13, 2009, 08:54:55 PM
I'm setting my hopes at rock bottom this year in the hopes I'll walk away delighted. That said, I'm forcing myself to expect Wii Music 2 and Rayman Raving Rabbits Invade Wind Waker.
Wii Music wasn't that bad. It was a little simplistic, but was a decent game overall and had lots of potential. If/when they make a sequel (the first did sell several million copies after all), I hope Nintendo doesn't cheap out again by using almost only public domain music and music from their own games.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 14, 2009, 07:41:12 AM
Why is everyone assuming that if Square Enix incorporates Nintendo characters into a game it has to be Kingdom Hearts? Why can't they just make a Super Mario RPG kind of project but expand it to cover the entire Nintendo universe? Why not make a completely NEW game for a Nintendo crossover and thus not have to deal with Disney or adhere to the gameplay model of an established series? There's no reason to have to shoehorn this concept into Kingdom Hearts.
I want to see a proper sequel to Super Mario RPG, but this time it involves Luigi instead of Mario and while old character may make cameo appearances, there should be a new set of allies Luigi teams up with along the way.
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Post by: Dasmos on May 14, 2009, 10:44:22 AM
Proper sequel? Both the Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario series are far and away better than that Square ****. I want to see another Paper Mario RPG, instead of the quasi-RPG that Super Paper Mario was.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2009, 12:37:31 PM
Super Paper Mario was also a weak platformer. 3 hours in, gave up thanks to all the boring text. Don't let these people work on any more "action games," Nintendo.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 14, 2009, 12:44:36 PM
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Proper sequel? Both the Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario series are far and away better than that Square ****. I want to see another Paper Mario RPG, instead of the quasi-RPG that Super Paper Mario was.
You've had your sequels. Let us Super Mario RPG fans have ours. :)
I actually liked it better when it appeared that each Mario RPG would be vastly different than the last with even a different dev each time. When they revealed the second Paper Mario I found the news kind of disappointing. Turns out the unique way the series had gone was a complete fluke and Nintendo considered Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi to be seperate franchises to be milked. But if they're going to do that then they might as well give us Super Mario RPG 2.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on May 14, 2009, 01:15:06 PM
OK I'm sorry but DONKEY KONG, people, DONKEY KONG!!!
I've read every single post here and not one person even bothered to mention the idea of a Donkey Kong game. Seriously, where has the love for the big ape gone?
Donkey Kong is still one of Nintendo's top series. Contrary to belief, Jungle Beat sold pretty well, not to mention the GBA ports of the Country games were million sellers last gen. Hell, the first Donkey Konga game on the Gamecube managed to sell a million copies worldwide based on the appeal of DK.
So in other words, there's a good chance Nintendo will announce a Donkey Kong game of some kind at E3. Personally I'd love to either see a sequel to Jungle Beat, or an all new 3d Donkey Kong using the Mario Galaxy engine. As long as Tokyo EAD is being either one, you know the end result will be amazing.
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Post by: Deguello on May 14, 2009, 01:20:15 PM
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I actually liked it better when it appeared that each Mario RPG would be vastly different than the last with even a different dev each time. When they revealed the second Paper Mario I found the news kind of disappointing. Turns out the unique way the series had gone was a complete fluke and Nintendo considered Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi to be seperate franchises to be milked. But if they're going to do that then they might as well give us Super Mario RPG 2.
Well that's probably not ever going to happen, considering that the SquareSoft of 1996 is vastly different from the Square Enix of 2009. If anything Mario and Luigi is the closest you'll get because AlphaDream has a few old Square employees, and the music is largely by the same composer.
Isn't that ironic? Nintendo's been making "Super Mario RPG 2" the whole time and nobody noticed.
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Post by: Caterkiller on May 14, 2009, 01:42:56 PM
OK I'm sorry but DONKEY KONG, people, DONKEY KONG!!!
I've read every single post here and not one person even bothered to mention the idea of a Donkey Kong game. Seriously, where has the love for the big ape gone?
Donkey Kong is still one of Nintendo's top series. Contrary to belief, Jungle Beat sold pretty well, not to mention the GBA ports of the Country games were million sellers last gen. Hell, the first Donkey Konga game on the Gamecube managed to sell a million copies worldwide based on the appeal of DK.
So in other words, there's a good chance Nintendo will announce a Donkey Kong game of some kind at E3. Personally I'd love to either see a sequel to Jungle Beat, or an all new 3d Donkey Kong using the Mario Galaxy engine. As long as Tokyo EAD is being either one, you know the end result will be amazing.
Tokyo EAD has to make the next DK! 3D would be great for me since I thought jungle beat was the ultimate 2d experience. Donkey, Diddy, Dixie, I would love to see all 3. Man running through the forests and jungles are always so amazing.
ReggieFA that really is you isnt it?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2009, 02:04:22 PM
After DK Bongo Blast Racer and Jungle Beat Off GameCube Wag-Ports, Nintendo's got a lot of work to do to make DK relavant today, like KICK HIM TO THE CURB AND SAVE HIM FOR NEXT GEN, CUZ IT'S OBVIOUS THEY'VE MISHANDLED THEIR MONKEY FOR THE LAST THREE PRODUCTS HE WAS IN. Even if 2 of those 3 products are OK, they did a terrible job publicizing them.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 14, 2009, 02:57:58 PM
I hate the idea of a plot driven crossover, the back-of-the-booklet story for regular crossovers is bad enough already, we don't need to emphasize something that cannot rise above the level of fan fiction. Crossover stories are lame because their constraint is that they MUST include characters X,Y and Z and build a story from there rather than determining a plot path and what characters are needed for it.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 14, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
For me Donkey Kong has no identity right now so I'm not looking for a new Donkey Kong game. I don't know what to look for. To me just "hey look DK is in a game" isn't good enough. When Rare had Donkey Kong there was some identity. I had an idea of what to expect and figured I would like it.
But right now DK is just an IP and that don't mean squat. They have to create something for me to associate DK with. Same with Star Fox. I don't care about a new Star Fox game because I have no fucking idea what the hell Nintendo would give me. So I don't ask for it. Nintendo has to turn Star Fox into something worth caring about for me to want it.
Nintendo isn't about their characters, it's about their games. If you just want DK or Kirby or Luigi or whoever in SOMETHING and don't give a **** what it is then you're just ruining it for the rest of us by encouraging them to make junk. You play the game, not the character on the box.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 14, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
After DK Bongo Blast Racer and Jungle Beat Off GameCube Wag-Ports, Nintendo's got a lot of work to do to make DK relavant today, like KICK HIM TO THE CURB AND SAVE HIM FOR NEXT GEN, CUZ IT'S OBVIOUS THEY'VE MISHANDLED THEIR MONKEY FOR THE LAST THREE PRODUCTS HE WAS IN. Even if 2 of those 3 products are OK, they did a terrible job publicizing them.
And we expect nothing less from Nintendo of Reggie.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 14, 2009, 05:31:24 PM
Well technically Nintendo transported DK from their animal shelter to Rareware's facility, only to be molested. So he was doomed and traumatized long before Mature Zelda, Taking Names, and the Casual Generation took place.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on May 14, 2009, 06:31:43 PM
For me Donkey Kong has no identity right now so I'm not looking for a new Donkey Kong game. I don't know what to look for. To me just "hey look DK is in a game" isn't good enough. When Rare had Donkey Kong there was some identity. I had an idea of what to expect and figured I would like it.
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat says hi. Not only is it the best Donkey Kong game ever created, it's one of the best platformers ever created. Which is no surprise considering it was done by Tokyo EAD right before they went on to do Mario Galaxy.
If Nintendo was to announce that Tokyo EAD is working on a new Donkey Kong, whether it's a 2d Jungle Beat sequel or a new 3d one, either way you can expect it to be high quality.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 14, 2009, 06:54:27 PM
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Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat says hi.
But there are no bongos on the Wii. "Games that use bongos" is pretty much the best way to describe DK games of last gen. Barrel Blast was supposed to be a bongo game for the Cube. To me that's too vague of an identity to associate with Donkey Kong and the bongos can't be replicated. We saw Nintendo's SAD attempt to do so with Barrel Blast. So either DK's most recent style of games can't be done on the Wii or they can but in a really shitty way.
Though I still didn't feel DK has an identity. He's been passed from dev to dev and ALL of his recent games have been novelty titles. There is no A-list DK series right now like Rare's series was. He just feels like that guy that Nintendo throws in titles that a jungle related theme could be shoehorned into.
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Post by: Stogi on May 14, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
I'd be happy with a New M+ IP. That is all.
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Post by: Pale on May 14, 2009, 10:52:06 PM
Sorry I'm a bit late, but how would putting Nintendo characters into Kingdom Hearts be shoe horning them in? The entire premise of the game is that distinctly different worlds collide! It's also a fact that they are just plain running out of content, and if they want to make the sequel feel new, they need to draw on a new pool of IP. I can think of only one company that would have an extensive and varied list of worlds.. and that's Nintendo.
Personally, I think it is the ONLY move for Kingdom Hearts 3.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 15, 2009, 12:12:14 AM
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep IS KH3, Squeenix has run out of Disney worlds to recycle plots from.
And sorry Pale, but while Nintendo does have a varied list of worlds, I'm pretty sure Sakurai's fan fic buddy who co-wrote the Fuckspace Shitmissary would ruin our favorite gaming icons.
Better just getting the writer of Madworld to do it (forgot his/her name), or Yoshiaki Koizumi.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 15, 2009, 05:38:24 AM
Proper sequel? Both the Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario series are far and away better than that Square ****. I want to see another Paper Mario RPG, instead of the quasi-RPG that Super Paper Mario was.
You've had your sequels. Let us Super Mario RPG fans have ours. :)
I actually liked it better when it appeared that each Mario RPG would be vastly different than the last with even a different dev each time. When they revealed the second Paper Mario I found the news kind of disappointing. Turns out the unique way the series had gone was a complete fluke and Nintendo considered Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi to be seperate franchises to be milked. But if they're going to do that then they might as well give us Super Mario RPG 2.
Nintendo franchises are a lot like worms. If one of them gets damaged in any way, the pieces of it live on and turn into new franchises. Remember, it all started with the original Mario Vs. Donkey Kong, which split into the separate Mario and Donkey Kong, and then those in turn split into countless others, and so on and so forth. Nintendo franchises reproduce asexually.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 15, 2009, 10:45:12 AM
Proper sequel? Both the Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario series are far and away better than that Square ****. I want to see another Paper Mario RPG, instead of the quasi-RPG that Super Paper Mario was.
You've had your sequels. Let us Super Mario RPG fans have ours. :)
I actually liked it better when it appeared that each Mario RPG would be vastly different than the last with even a different dev each time. When they revealed the second Paper Mario I found the news kind of disappointing. Turns out the unique way the series had gone was a complete fluke and Nintendo considered Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi to be seperate franchises to be milked. But if they're going to do that then they might as well give us Super Mario RPG 2.
Nintendo franchises are a lot like worms. If one of them gets damaged in any way, the pieces of it live on and turn into new franchises. Remember, it all started with the original Mario Vs. Donkey Kong, which split into the separate Mario and Donkey Kong, and then those in turn split into countless others, and so on and so forth. Nintendo franchises reproduce asexually.
you know what, nvm...
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Post by: Peachylala on May 15, 2009, 03:40:40 PM
Chozo Ghost just explained how Ninendo franchises work in the most awesome way possible. He wins post of the year 2009.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 15, 2009, 04:04:14 PM
Gets my vote.
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Post by: Louieturkey on May 15, 2009, 05:16:36 PM
Disney still has Pixar worlds. I'm sure they can milk it without Nintendo for a while longer.
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Post by: Kairon on May 16, 2009, 02:34:32 PM
Chozo Ghost just explained how Ninendo franchises work in the most awesome way possible. He wins post of the year 2009.
We need to remember Chozo's Post for next year's NWR awards.
I wanted to quote it in my signature but it is too lengthy.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 16, 2009, 06:58:27 PM
Everyone keeps bringing the Subspace Emissary as an example of why a Nintendo crossover game wouldn't work. What you guys don't realize is that the reason the SE sucks is because it was a last minute addition and its mainly a bonus mode.
In other words, since the SE was thought of after the main game was designed the story and the concept fell through. It doesn't help that Sakurai put a lot of focus on his characters as the heroes. Kingdom Hearts, on the other hand, was MADE with the crossover aspect in mind first and foremost. They focused on the concept and answered the questions everyone should ask themselves when writing a crossover story: Why are these characters crossing over? What is the cause? Who started it? What is the threat of this? So on and so forth.
If writers sat down and worked on how these characters are going to interact with each other and work on the gameplay we could have a great Nintendo cross over game.
Once again, don't let the disaster that was SSE mode convince you that it can be done. The SSE mode was the product of an egotistical director who really wanted to make a single player mode and used a multiplayer exclusive engine to get it done.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on May 16, 2009, 07:35:03 PM
Sakurai only put the SSE mode in because fans wanted a more in-depth single player mode. He would have been happy to just have the multiplayer mode.
I actually like the SSE. The platforming controls were a little rough (especially with characters that can't jump very well), but overall I enjoyed it.
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Post by: Mop it up on May 16, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
Sakurai only put the SSE mode in because fans wanted a more in-depth single player mode. He would have been happy to just have the multiplayer mode.
I have trouble believing this; in fact, I thought it was the opposite. People wanted a robust multiplayer mode in what is undeniably a multiplayer game, to ask for an in-depth story mode for it is the same as demanding one for a Mario Party game. The SSE exists because Sakurai wanted to create an "epic" single-player adventure; I think I even heard something about how Miyamoto expressed to him that he shouldn't focus so much on the single-player.
My memory is murky though... Does anyone have any links to anything which could tell us who's idea the SSE was?
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Post by: TJ Spyke on May 16, 2009, 09:46:39 PM
People had been complaining since the original SSB about the lack of compelling single player.
I think you may be right though. I remember Sakurai saying he wanted to put a deeper single player mode in SSBM but ran out of time.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 19, 2009, 12:09:48 PM
Hmm.. I don't know if anyones brought this up recently, but whats the likely hood of Nintendo mentioning any of that "Legend of OO" stuff we learned about some time ago?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 12:18:06 PM
Pretty damn high.
In order for Nintendo to surpass their C3 showing last year, they have to casualize every property they have and in a big way.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 19, 2009, 12:44:30 PM
I am also going to say that I think we'll see a new IP that is NOT a casual game from a company, either 2nd or 1st, other then Retros game.
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Post by: Caterkiller on May 19, 2009, 03:02:08 PM
Matt is hinting at something again...
Seems to be M+ Candy factory game. Probably managing the workers efficiently maximising profits and so on. Most mature title ever, you'll probably have to do business taxes for it and everything.
http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 03:13:11 PM
I am floored by a project with such depth.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 19, 2009, 04:09:22 PM
Seems to be M+ Candy factory game. Probably managing the workers efficiently maximising profits and so on. Most mature title ever, you'll probably have to do business taxes for it and everything.
http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/
That picture with Miyamoto as Wonka creeps me out. Anyway I'm not sure if Matt is hinting at something or is just throwing out a prediction. It would be great if it was real.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on May 19, 2009, 04:17:06 PM
People had been complaining since the original SSB about the lack of compelling single player.
Those people need to shut the hell up.
Demanding a solid single player experience in a multiplayer game is like saying "Schindler's List" needed to have comic relief.
If you want a single player experience, play a farking single player game, like hopefully the ones Nintendo will announce this E3.
See what I did there? Oh and I'm not really directing this at you, TJ, but at people who demand things in games that don't belong there. A cross-over game could work very well but the SSE is a terrible example of one. Apparently, if you walk through the mushroom kingdom long enough, you'll arrive in Hyrule. Fancy that.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
Are these the same people who ask for MULTIPLAYER in a SINGLE PLAYER game?
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 19, 2009, 04:21:55 PM
Are these the same people who ask for MULTIPLAYER in a SINGLE PLAYER game?
Probably.
There's nothing wrong with a game providing an amazing multiplayer experience at the expense of a single player experience, or vice versa. Some games wind up trying to be both and ultimately end up failing at both.
I've learned enough times over that there's nothing wrong with a game being the best it can be in one particular area.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Mop it up on May 19, 2009, 06:17:16 PM
My thoughts exactly Smash_Brother. I've never followed the Smash Brothers "fan" community so I don't know how many people have said what, but I have never wanted more single-player modes to be in a Smash Brothers game. Even what SSBMelee had was too much in my eyes.
I would quote you in my sig if you could sum all of that up in 300 characters or less (preferably less so I could slip your name in there).
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 19, 2009, 06:42:59 PM
My thoughts exactly Smash_Brother. I've never followed the Smash Brothers "fan" community so I don't know how many people have said what, but I have never wanted more single-player modes to be in a Smash Brothers game. Even what SSBMelee had was too much in my eyes.
The overwhelming majority of Smash Bros fans wanted a larger single player mode for Brawl. Years before Brawl was even revealed, a larger Adventure mode was by far the most requested feature people wanted in the next Smash Bros. This is why the night the SSE was revealed, the entire internet went crazy in a positive way over the news.
To say that the Smash Bros fanbase didn't want a larger adventure mode like the SSE is complete bullsh!t. The huge majority wanted it, they cheered it when it was revealed, and they went crazy every time Sakurai revealed a new piece of info about it. Not to mention, most of them were pleased with it in the end. Yeah it didn't live up to the hype that many expected, but most people agree that it a nice mode that it quite fun when played Co-op with a friend.
Just because some of you guys despise it for whatever reason, doesn't mean everyone else did. So don't be surprised when a larger more expanded version of it appears in the next Smash Bros because this is what most of the close to 9 million people and counting that bought Brawl are going to be expecting for the sequel. Just like the majority of people who bought Melee, wanted for Brawl.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Mop it up on May 19, 2009, 06:55:46 PM
Like I said, I haven't followed any Smash community so I don't know what they wanted. But I hardly think you can use any Internet Smash community as a basis for what every person who owns a Smash game wanted in a sequel, as they represent a very small percentage of people who own the game. Sales data doesn't mean much either, because the game probably would have sold just as well had it been more multiplayer-focused and with a better online mode, since it has such a wide appeal with including so many different franchises. The first game sold handsomely despite having a weak single-player mode.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 06:58:07 PM
I think Brawl is my last Smash game.
Long Live Captain Falcon
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 19, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
Luigi_Dude is right. I do recall many fans wishing for a better adventure mode simply because the adventure mode in Melee was merely a taste of what could be done when it comes to a Nintendo crossover game.
In my honest opinion, Melee did a MUCH better job than Brawl in that aspect simply because it used the original Nintendo worlds.
Melee had us running away from F-Zero cars, traveling through the Mushroom Kingdom, escaping from the exploding planet like in Metroid and many other things that made us feel like we were living a Nintendo world. Brawl's worlds were just generic. There was no real presentation of the Nintendo universe outside of the characters.
If fans are saying that the SSE was good I am 100% they are being forgiving since Brawl=the best game ever made regardless of any actual flaws.
The truth is that the SSE wasn't all that well received by fans and the media. Sure there are the fans that liked it but considering the hype there was for it many were disappointed.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Stogi on May 19, 2009, 08:18:47 PM
I guess this is what you get when you start an E3 thread several months before the event.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on May 19, 2009, 11:56:11 PM
Ha.
I will say I spent most of my time playing Melee's Adventure mode and Classic mode. A good 75% of my time with Melee.
I spent almost 35% of my time with Brawl's Single player experience...it was horrible. I didn't mind the levels, I minded this piss poor character design...but it would have been nice to simply play extended levels in the classic character's world.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 20, 2009, 02:49:02 AM
The truth is that the SSE wasn't all that well received by fans and the media. Sure there are the fans that liked it but considering the hype there was for it many were disappointed.
Well of course, all games that have huge amount of hype for long periods of time like Brawl are bound to leave many disappointed. A lot of people were disappointed in Twilight Princess, a lot of people were disappointed in Halo 3, a lot of people were disappointed in GTA4, not to mention I remember a lot of people disappointment in Metal Gear Solid 4 last summer as well.
The problem with these huge games is that when they're hyped up for so long like all the games I listed above were, people start to expect unrealistic expectations for them, so when the final game comes out it's impossible for the game to deliver.
Had Nintendo never revealed Brawl at E3 2006 and instead waited until E3 2007 as well as never had the Dojo which just added fuel to delusional fanboys fire, the overall reaction to Brawl would have been way more positive. The same thing can also be said about Twilight Princess if it would have never been shown at E3 2004 and instead waited until 2005 or better yet, 2006. Because during the first year of waiting, fans are still being realistic, but after the first year goes by, they start expecting more and more until it reaches a point where the game will need to have 100 characters or 30 different dungeons, just to please everyone.
Which actually brings this topic about E3 again. I've seen a lot of people on the internet hyping up E3 this year because they think Zelda Wii will be revealed, which I think is rather foolish since it'll more then likely leave these people very disappointed. If Zelda Wii isn't going to be coming out within the next year, don't expect it too be shown at this years E3. After the sh!tstorm that Twilight Princess and Brawl caused, they're one of the main reasons Nintendo started their don't reveal games until they're almost done policy. Unless Nintendo plans on having Zelda Wii ready for fall 2009 or spring 2010, it's not going to be shown.
So if Zelda Wii isn't at E3, the earliest we can expect it is a fall 2010 release which means it might be revealed at Nintendo October conference this fall since that will be within a year though. Of course even then, it'd imagine GDC or E3 2010 would probably be most likely for it's earliest reveal.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Stogi on May 20, 2009, 06:23:07 AM
I think people are hyped about this E3 because of M+; specifically its potential. Logic says that a core IP or new IP aimed at the core will be revealed along side WiiSports Resort, an admittedly blue ocean game. If not, it will be last year all over again...a mistake Nintendo themselves have admitted. If Nintendo wants to be taken seriously by the gaming media (they don't want to burn bridges after all), this new game must prove the advantages of M+ to the masses immediately. I can't stress that enough; immediacy is key. They'd have a better chance of being adored by fans and media alike if the game were an existing IP, simply because imagination can go a long way.
That is why the fans are hopeful. Showing Link do a few things that can't be replicated on other systems is all it would take to bring love an admiration from the masses. But I agree with you. I don't think we'll see Link for at most a year.
Instead, I think it will be a grand unveiling of something new. Think about it; it's yet another new attachment. They would be foolish to unveil this product without proving it's potential. So they start out by featuring WiiSports Resort; a game that has major appeal. Next they feature games by other companies to show their influence and more importantly, their optimism. Then, to finally hammer it home, they show their latest game. It could be Link and it could be Mario or it could be something entirely different. The point is, it's coming and it's demonstrative of everything Nintendo stands for.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 20, 2009, 09:22:47 AM
I'm just hyped up because I hope we'll finally learn more about Dynamic Slash.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 20, 2009, 12:02:36 PM
If all you get from E3 is another Dynasty Warriors, will you quit gaming? This year's seems to be a turning point for everybody.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 20, 2009, 01:42:52 PM
If all you get from E3 is another Dynasty Warriors, will you quit gaming? This year's seems to be a turning point for everybody.
To be honest, while I am hopeful I am also doubtful of E3 overall. The organizers seem to be confused as to what kind of show they want to put on. They thought they were wasting too much money on shows for the press, they scaled down. The scaled down show made a lot of people whine and cry and created lackluster press conferences from everyone. So now they went back to the old E3 formula and people seem to be happy.
If this show doesn't deliver on all aspects them I WILL declare the show dead.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 20, 2009, 03:15:42 PM
Hmm when you think about it, we're bound to get something from Intelligent Systems shown at this E3. Back in 2007 they released Super Paper Mario and Fire Emblem on the Wii both at the very beginning of the year in Japan. Now the Fire Emblem part of them did the DS game last year so maybe we wont see anything from them, but the Paper Mario team hasn't released anything since Super Paper Mario which is over 2 years ago now.
I think it's safe to say there's a good chance another Paper Mario game of some kind might be showing up. Whether it'll be Super Paper Mario 2, or regular Paper Mario 3 is anyone's guess right now.
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Post by: Stogi on May 20, 2009, 03:23:15 PM
It's most likely WarioWare.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on May 20, 2009, 03:49:45 PM
That is true since IS did most of the work for Smooth Moves because SPD1 was busy working on the first Rhythm Tengoku at the time. So I could easily imagine IS making another Wii WarioWare since SPD has recently completed the new one for the DS.
The WarioWare games have become a way for Nintendo to show off their new technology and since we now have motion plus coming out, it seems like a good fit. Of course I can easily see a balance board WarioWare game being announced since there's also a huge amount of potential in that as well.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 20, 2009, 03:51:35 PM
I can just imagine the whining if they unveil another WarioWare game. Personally I still like the series so it is fine with me, but certain individuals are going to take it and turn it into a whineathon.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 20, 2009, 04:00:06 PM
WarioWare is one of Nintendo's top tech demo franchises. Or the worst, if you compare it to Wii Sports/Play.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 20, 2009, 05:19:15 PM
Hmm when you think about it, we're bound to get something from Intelligent Systems shown at this E3. Back in 2007 they released Super Paper Mario and Fire Emblem on the Wii both at the very beginning of the year in Japan. Now the Fire Emblem part of them did the DS game last year so maybe we wont see anything from them, but the Paper Mario team hasn't released anything since Super Paper Mario which is over 2 years ago now.
I think it's safe to say there's a good chance another Paper Mario game of some kind might be showing up. Whether it'll be Super Paper Mario 2, or regular Paper Mario 3 is anyone's guess right now.
There were rumors a while back about a new FE game for the Wii, right after the release of FE DS. So it could happen.
As for Wario Ware Motion Plus I would SO pick that over the new Wario Ware game on DS. I mean it looks cute and fun but it lacks the creativity of Touched and Smooth Moves. The Wii game, in particular, is the best in the series, in my honest opinion.
I think fans won't whine as long as it isn't the lone announcements of the conference. If they announce it alongside other games of interest then it should be fine.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 20, 2009, 05:58:48 PM
Nope, there will be no Wario Ware or any game annoucement for that matter. Nintendo will instead announce a hardcore/for the whiners Wii which will include a "**** you" button. Press the button, and the Wii will horribly attack you with the disk being shot out.
Mario Galaxy will be shot out like a comet.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 21, 2009, 08:53:07 AM
Nope, there will be no Wario Ware or any game annoucement for that matter. Nintendo will instead announce a hardcore/for the whiners Wii which will include a "**** you" button. Press the button, and the Wii will horribly attack you with the disk being shot out.
Mario Galaxy will be shot out like a comet.
haha Luma's to the face would be priceless
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2009, 12:00:45 PM
I received a squishy Cube for playing the E3 Melee demo.
Title: Post E3 Nintendo Press Conference in Japan
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2009, 02:21:47 PM
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posted by Anoop
Rumor has it that Nintendo will be holding a big press conference here in Japan immediately following E3.
Actually, this isn't really a rumor. The source is the Sinobi blog -- you know, the blog that always gives out the super early sales information on Fridays. It seems to be a pretty reliable source.
The press conference is mentioned as an aside as the writer discusses how absolutely atrocious the Japanese game market was in May. The writer suggests that Nintendo could end up showing its summer lineup.
That summer lineup will presumably be lead by Wii Sports Resort.
The blog post was made on the 27th, by the way. I really need a new "Two Days Late" tag for all the stories I write two days late.
This is either for all the Japanese press that can't go to E3 due to travel restrictions (swine flu) or Nintendo has some BIG things to announce at E3 that could generate some major EXCITE in Japan and hopefully boost sluggish sales.
I'm hoping its a combination of both
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 29, 2009, 06:31:45 PM
Well Swine Flu is a concern but I heard that Miyamoto is going to be at E3.
Does anybody feel like posting what developers and what games they are going to be showing at E3.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2009, 06:41:24 PM
Miyamoto is supposed to be having another roundtable discussion this year. Nothing much came out of the one from last year other than a "confirmation" that Pikmin 3 was being worked on.
From what I'm hearing Nintendo has no travel restrictions placed on any of their employees, but they are urged to take the utmost precautions when and if traveling anywhere.
SquareEnix & Capcom have supposedly barred all travel to E3 by any of its Japanese Employees, which is also part of the speculation as to why Nintendo is having a JPN Press Conference immediately following E3. We do have FFCC & MH3 coming soon and I'm sure they would want to give the SE & Capcom Execs a chance to present their own work.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 29, 2009, 06:49:57 PM
That makes sense. Mostly western developers at E3 while everybody else is at the other press conference.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 30, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Since nobody wanted to post E3 lineups I will. http://www.kombo.com/article.php?artid=13125
Title: E3 Game Lineup
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 30, 2009, 04:49:31 PM
Or you could summarize it for forum convenience;
Capcom Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth (NDS) Bionic Commando® (PC) Dark Void™ (???) Dead Rising 2 (X360) Fate (???) Lost Planet® 2 (X360/PS3) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (XBLA/PSN) Mega Man® Star Force 3 (PSP?) Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (Wii) Resident Evil: Archives (Wii) Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (Wii) Spyborgs (Wii) Street Fighter IV (PC) Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Wii) And Secret Game #2 <most likely Monter Huntr Tri (Wii)>
Majesco About a boy and his blob (Wii) About Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2010 (Wii) About Flip's Twisted World (Wii) About Go Play City Sports (Wii) About Our House: Party! (Wii) About My Hero Firefighter (NDS)
Square Enix DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY (PSP) FINAL FANTASY XIII (PS3) (& X360!!??? dun dun duuun) FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL CHRONICLES: THE CRYSTAL BEARERS (Wii) FRONT MISSION EVOLVED (PS3/X360/PC) KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days (NDS) NIER (PS3/X360) ORDER OF WAR (PC) SUPREME COMMANDER 2 (X360/PC) FINAL FANTASY IV: THE AFTER YEARS (WiiWare) FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL CHRONICLES: My Life as a Darklord (WiiWare)
Xseed Games Lunar: Silver Star Harmony (PSP) Half-Minute Hero (PSP) FRAGILE: Farewell Ruins of the Moon (Wii) Arc Rise Fantasia (Wii) Flower, Sun, and Rain (DS) JU-ON: The Grudge (Wii) Little King's Story (Wii) Ragnarok Online (DS) Valhalla Knights: Eldar Saga (Wii)
KOEI TRINITY: Souls of Zill O'll™ Warriors: Legends of Troy™ Monster Racers™ - Monster Racers (NDS) WARRIORS OROCHI®2 (PSP)
Natsume Adventures To Go (PSP) Animal Kingdom: Wildlife Expedition (Wii) Afrika (PS3) Cheer We Go! (DS) Harvest Moon: Animal Parade (Wii) Harvest Moon: Frantic Farming (DS) Harvest Moon: My Little Shop (WiiWare) Harvest Moon: Sunshine Islands (DS) Reel Fishing: Angler's Dream (Wii) Squishy Tank (DS)
Eidos Batman: Arkham Asylum (PS3/X360/PC) Mini Ninjas (PS3/X360/Wii/NDS) Just Cause 2 (PS3/X360/PC)
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Post by: TJ Spyke on May 30, 2009, 05:23:15 PM
More complete (and better looking, no CAPITALS and®) list of confirmed games from IGN (although they make sure to point out that sometimes companies will confirm a game will be at E3 and then decide at the last moment not to show it). For the benefit of people I have combined games from the same publisher (IGN splits 2K Games and 2K Sports into separate lists even though they are both part of Take-Two Interactive). The list seems to not be 100% accurate though (for example; they only have The Bigs 2 listed as a Xbox 360 game even though there is a Wii version):
Take-Two Interactive BioShock 2 (PC, PS3, X360) Borderlands (PC, PS3, X360) Mafia II (PC, PS3, X360) The Bigs 2 (X360)
Atlus Class of Heroes (PSP) Droplitz (PC, PS3, X360) Knights in the Nightmare (DS) Neo Steam: The Shattered Continent (PC) Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor (DS) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona (PSP) Steambot Chronicles: Battle Tournament (PSP)
Capcom Bionic Commando (PC) Dark Void (PC, PS3, X360) Dead Rising 2 (PC, PS3, X360) Fate/Unlimited Codes (PSP) Lost Planet 2 (PC, PS3, X360) Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (PS3, X360) Mega Man Star Force 3: Black Ace (DS) Mega Man Star Force 3: Red Joker (DS) Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP) Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil (Wii) Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles (Wii) Spyborgs (Wii) Street Fighter IV (PC) Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All Stars (Wii)
City Interactive I Love Beauty: Hollywood Makeover (DS) Logic Machines (DS) Redneck Chicken Riot (Wii) Sushi Academy (DS)
CompuExpert Rise of Flight (PC)
Crave Entertainment Monster Mayhem: Build and Battle (DS, Wii) Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection (PS3, X360)
DTP (Digital Entertainment Pool) Black Mirror 2 (PC) Drakensang: The River of Time (PC) Ghost Pirates of Voojoo Island (PC) Venetica (PC, X360)
Deck 13 Strain (TBA)
Disney Interactive Studios Hannah Montana: Rock Out the Show (PSP) Spectrobes: Origins (Wii) Split/Second (PC, PS3, X360) Toy Story Mania (Wii) Wizards of Waverly Place (DS)
DreamCatcher Interactive Agatha Christie: The ABC Murders (DS) Arcania (PC, X360) Prank Your Neighbor (DS) Spellforce Faith in Destiny (PC) The Hardy Boys: The Hidden Theft (Wii) The Legend of Kay (DS) Yoga (Wii)
Eidos Interactive Batman: Arkham Asylum (PC, PS3, X360) Just Cause 2 (PC, PS3, X360)
Electronic Arts Army of Two: The 40th Day (PS3, PSP, X360) Battlefield 1943 (PC, PS3, X360) Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (PC, PS3, X360) Brütal Legend (PS3, X360) Command & Conquer: Red Alert (iPhone) Dante's Inferno (PS3, PSP, X360) Dead Space Extraction (Wii) Dragon Age: Origins (PC, X360, PS3) EA Sports Active (Wii) FIFA Soccer 10 (Cell, DS, PC, PS2, PS3, PSP, Wii, X360) Fight Night Round 4 (PS3, X360) G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra -- The Game (Cell) Grand Slam Tennis (Wii) Littlest Pet Shop Online (Webgame) Madden NFL 10 (PS2, PS3, PSP, Wii, X360, iPhone) Mass Effect 2 (PC, X360) Mass Effect Galaxy (iPhone) MySims Agents (DS, Wii) NCAA Football 10 (PS2, PS3, PSP, X360) NHL 10 (PS3, X360) Need for Speed Nitro (DS, Wii) Need for Speed Shift (PC, PS3, PSP, X360) Spore Hero (Wii) Spore Hero Arena (DS) The Saboteur (PC, PS3, X360) The Sims 3 (iPhone) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 (PS2, PS3, PSP, Wii, X360)
Genius Products Scratch: The Ultimate DJ (PS3, X360)
Ignition Entertainment Muramasa: The Demon Blade (Wii) Nostalgia (DS) The King of Fighters XII (PS3, X360)
JoWood Productions Painkiller: Resurrection (PC)
Just Flight 757 Captain (PC) Air Hauler (PC) Traffic X (PC) Warbirds of WWII (PC) World Airports 3: North America (PC)
K2 Network Incorporated OurWorld (PC) Taikodom (PC) Victory: The Age of Racing (PC)
Koei Monster Racers (DS) Warriors Orochi 2 (PSP)
Konami untitled Kojima Productions project (TBA)
MTV Games The Beatles: Rock Band (PS3, Wii, X360)
Majesco A Boy and His Blob (Wii) Flip's Twisted World (Wii) Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2010 (Wii) Jillian Michaels' Pocket Trainer 2010 (DS) My Hero: Astronaut (DS) Our House: Party (Wii) Pizza Boy (Wii)
Marvelous Entertainment Arc Rise Fantasia (Wii) Flower, Sun, and Rain (DS) Little King's Story (Wii)
NHN Games Huxley: The Dystopia (PC)
Namco Bandai Soulcalibur: Broken Destiny (PSP)
Natsume Animal Kingdom: Wildlife Expedition (Wii)
No Publisher Announced City Life DS (DS) Scrabble Interactive: 2009 Edition (DS, Wii) So Blonde (DS, Wii) Summer Athletics 2009 (PC, PS2, Wii, X360)
Paradox Interactive East India Company (PC) Hearts of Iron III (PC) Majesty 2: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim (PC) Mount & Blade: Warband (PC)
Perfect World Entertainment Ether Saga Online (PC) Jade Dynasty (PC) Perfect World (PC) Torchlight (PC)
Phantom EFX Darkest of Days (PC, X360)
Realtime Worlds APB (PC, X360)
Sega Aliens vs. Predator (PC, PS3, X360) Alpha Protocol (PC, PS3, X360) Bayonetta (PS3, X360) Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (DS, Wii) Planet 51 (DS, PS3, Wii, X360) The Conduit (Wii) Vancouver 2010: The Official Videogame of the Winter Olympic Games (PC, PS3, X360)
Sony Fat Princess (PS3) God of War III (PS3) Heavy Rain (PS3) Infamous (PS3) Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier (PS2, PSP) MAG (PS3) MotorStorm: Arctic Edge (PS2, PSP) Pain! Sore Spots (PS3) PixelJunk Monsters Deluxe (PSP) PixelJunk Shooter (PS3) Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time (PS3) SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Fireteam Bravo 3 (PSP) SingStar: Queen (PS2, PS3) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3) White Knight Chronicles (PS3) DC Universe Online (PC, PS3) Free Realms (PC) Kung Fu Hustle (PC) Legends of Norrath (PC) PoxNora (PC) The Agency (PC, PS3)
SouthPeak Games Fast Food Panic (DS, Wii) My Baby 2 (DS) Section 8 (PC, X360) Sled Shred (Wii) Sushi Go Round (DS, Wii)
THQ All-Star Cheer Squad 2 (Wii) Cars: Race-O-Rama (TBA) Darksiders (PS3, X360) Homefront (PC, PS3, X360) MX vs. ATV Reflex (DS, PS3, PSP, X360) Marvel Super Hero Squad (DS, PS2, PSP, Wii) Red Faction: Guerrilla (PC, PS3, X360) SpongeBob's Truth or Square (DS, PSP, Wii, X360) NEW UFC 2009: Undisputed (PS3, X360)
Teyon 101 Minigolf World (DS) Ball Fighter (DS) Forsaken Patrol (PC, PS3, X360) Hubert the Teddy Bear: Holiday Island (PC, Wii) My Fitness (PC) Robot Rescue (DS)
Trion World Network Heroes of Telara (PC)
Ubisoft Assassin's Creed II (PC, PS3, X360) Imagine: Family Doctor (DS) Rabbids Go Home (Wii) Red Steel 2 (Wii)
Nintendo: 01:30:00 a.m. Wednesday June 3, 2009 in Australia/South
Ahaha awesome.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 31, 2009, 10:53:36 AM
I am curious as to what the hell "Redneck Chicken Riot" (from City Interactive) is about. The name is pretty amusing.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 31, 2009, 01:23:48 PM
Sounds like another Moorhuhn derivative...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 31, 2009, 08:08:25 PM
It is me, or is this E3 filled with a lot of uncertainty rather than hype and excitement? It seems that whenever someone is trying to predict what Nintendo will do many play it safe (I played it safe in my predictions) or say it will disappoint or suck.
Even I'm not sure what will happen. I refuse to believe any Nintendo PR that say this show will be great. Hell I don't even believe third parties or the other companies when they say E3 will be great.
I guess last year it left a sour taste so bad that everyone is just shielding themselves in case the show does disappoint overall.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 31, 2009, 08:13:52 PM
The H.ighly D.isappointing generation does that to you. ;D
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Post by: Stogi on May 31, 2009, 08:37:38 PM
I enjoyed last year's show. How could I not when M+ was announced?!
Anyway, I think people are looking over the fence and thinking that grass is greener. I don't mind though.
Ye of little faith shall not be entertained.
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Post by: Mop it up on May 31, 2009, 09:32:38 PM
anyone got links to LIVE streams of the conferences? starting with the MS one tomorrow?
I read somewhere that IGN will be providing live streams.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 10:23:23 PM
Just a little heads up Microsoft has pushed up their conference 5 mins.So it will start at 10:25 am PST
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2009, 10:32:01 PM
yeah. supposedly something music related.
If anybody gets a link to LIVE streams tomorrow morning that they are watching can you post them in this thread, or actually start a new thread for all the E3 conference news.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 10:40:19 PM
Should we make a E3 topic for the Microsoft and Sony conferences?
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Post by: Stratos on May 31, 2009, 10:41:30 PM
Figures I'm working days this week through all the conferences. I'll be relying on you guys when I play catchup in the evenings.
@Maxi
I'd just have all of them in one thread for convenience. Or if the purists throw a fit make one thread for Nintendo and another for the rest.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 10:44:54 PM
Well we already have a Nintendo topic. I guess I will make one for Microsoft & Sony. Edit:Just posted it.
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Post by: King of Twitch on May 31, 2009, 10:46:32 PM
anyone going to be in the nwr chat?
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 31, 2009, 10:49:06 PM
I would if I knew what network/channel it was on.
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Post by: King of Twitch on May 31, 2009, 10:50:57 PM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/chat.cfm
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2009, 10:59:12 PM
I say make one MS & Sony E3 2009 Conference thread in General Gaming and then a separate Nintendo E3 2009 Conference thread here in Nintendo Console chat.
& the person to make the thread should have LIVE video links to the conferences ready to go. & also be available after each conference to update the OP with a quick summary of what happened for the late comers that missed the live performance.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 31, 2009, 11:00:39 PM
I'm excited and can't wait to see what Nintendo has up their sleeves. :D
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 11:03:49 PM
Black N Mild I just made one in General Gaming. I posted IGN's Microsoft live blog and Gamespot's video conference. After Nintendo's conference I will post sony's conference info.Would that work Black N Mild?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 31, 2009, 11:33:41 PM
That seems perfect. Just didn't want someone to start the thread and then disappear never to be heard from again.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 11:36:52 PM
I'll try and get up early.
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Post by: Stratos on May 31, 2009, 11:42:15 PM
Maxi? Disappear? Doubtful. What would the world be like without Maxi? More lonely, that's what.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 31, 2009, 11:47:20 PM
Just to let you guys know I am going to be doing double duty on two forums with E3. This one and the one in my signature. Hopefully I can be quick enough. I actually did this with GDC so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on June 01, 2009, 12:03:27 AM
GameSpot will be broadcasting them live, I just got an e-mail from them. I think G4 usually broadcasts them live.
I will be in school when Microsoft starts theirs though, so I want to find a site that will have the video up afterwards.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2009, 12:09:42 AM
we hope to have links to all that in the MS & Sony E3 thread, LIVE and pre-recorded links. I'm sure Maxi will be all over it and provide a stunning E3 thread effort.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 01, 2009, 12:23:47 AM
Noooo this is the better chatroom http://nintendoworldreport.chatango.com/
:)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 01, 2009, 12:27:35 AM
I agree DAaaman64. Everybody should use that.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on June 01, 2009, 12:48:20 AM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2009, 10:32:26 PM
who is working closely with Nintendo in designing it!!!!
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on June 01, 2009, 10:39:06 PM
Ironic. Just as MS was done with their motion camera presentation Ubi unveils one for the Wii, and Nintendo is working alongside it!
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Post by: Stratos on June 01, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
Really? Mickey Soft revealed one too? Maybe I should go read what else I missed today from their show.
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Post by: Mop it up on June 01, 2009, 10:44:39 PM
Say what? Nintendo is really creating a motion camera to combat Microsoft's ridiculous accessory? That seems unecessary with Wii Motion Plus in the works...
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Post by: Stratos on June 01, 2009, 10:47:22 PM
Maybe that's the thing Nintendo told stores to save room for this holiday?
I think the console wars are about to get a little more epic. Oh, Joy, the good times are back! ;D
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 01, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
Say what? Nintendo is really creating a motion camera to combat Microsoft's ridiculous accessory? That seems unecessary with Wii Motion Plus in the works...
Ubisoft is making it and it will first be used with a fitness game. Nintendo may only be working with Ubisoft to help them out, I wouldn't read too into it.
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Post by: Mop it up on June 01, 2009, 10:56:44 PM
Oh okay, but that's still weird.
Can somebody please link to the announcement of Ubisoft's camera? There are a lot of posts to sift through around here and it would take me forever to find it.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 01, 2009, 11:09:25 PM
Can somebody please link to the announcement of Ubisoft's camera? There are a lot of posts to sift through around here and it would take me forever to find it.
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Post by: Stogi on June 01, 2009, 11:36:16 PM
Thats not ironic
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 01:06:54 AM
Depending on what the camera can actually see, this could just be Nintendo's pre-emptive "yeah we can do it too" and completely take wind out of Sony & MS's sails.
The camera could also be used for a Mario Kart Arcade, they can finally bring home an arcade perfect port.
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Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2009, 01:12:20 AM
I don't imagine that Ubi's camera solution is nearly as robust as MS'. I remember Gates talking about camera recognition tech back before around the wii launch, so I'd think MS has some deeper investment in their camera than a third party like Ubisoft.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on June 02, 2009, 01:16:48 AM
I doubt Ubisoft will charge $200 for theirs though.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 01:22:43 AM
No doubt it will be much cheaper, but it is obviously being built to recognize body shape and movement. I pretty sure that it wouldn't cost more than $90-$100 for the fitness game with a bundled in camera.
& if they really want to sell that game and camera, they better be damn well sure Nintendo is sold on the idea so they can officially endorse the camera and use it in their own projects and also get other 3rd parties involved. Half of whats gonna sell a peripheral to the masses this late in the game will be the sheer amount of software that uses it. Or its gonna have to be some MUST-HAVE software properly marketed like WiiFit & EA Sports Active.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 02, 2009, 01:23:17 AM
Say what? Nintendo is really creating a motion camera to combat Microsoft's ridiculous accessory? That seems unecessary with Wii Motion Plus in the works...
No no no. I'm sure this was an accident. We should even really care about this camera. It probably won't do anything we will be interested in. Probably just for fitness games or others.
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Post by: King of Twitch on June 02, 2009, 01:51:39 AM
Remember the good old days when cameras were supposed to be used for FPS facemapping? There's too much richard simmoning up of gaming :(
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Post by: Luigi Dude on June 02, 2009, 01:58:09 AM
OH SH!T, it looks like we have our megaton.
It's looks like that big Mario game that comes out this year could be a New Super Mario Bros game for the Wii. Recent images from IGN have shown the Wii section, and right now there a big area with it's banner covered. When you enlarge the images you can clearly see the outlines of Fire Flowers with boxes under one of the banners and under another, the words Super Mario Bros are clearly outlined with the font that Nintendo used for New Super Mario Bros title.
Damn, this is going to be one hell of a show if this is indeed true.
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Post by: Caterkiller on June 02, 2009, 02:04:26 AM
Luigi Dude... if it aint true...
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 02, 2009, 02:08:17 AM
I want zelda, f-zero, and a real online structure and the most immersive motion experience ever. :)
/end wish
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Post by: King of Twitch on June 02, 2009, 02:28:27 AM
Have you been a good boy this year?
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Post by: Smoke39 on June 02, 2009, 02:31:41 AM
I want a new 2D Metroid for Wii.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 02, 2009, 02:34:13 AM
It's looks like that big Mario game that comes out this year could be a New Super Mario Bros game for the Wii. Recent images from IGN have shown the Wii section, and right now there a big area with it's banner covered. When you enlarge the images you can clearly see the outlines of Fire Flowers with boxes under one of the banners and under another, the words Super Mario Bros are clearly outlined with the font that Nintendo used for New Super Mario Bros title.
Damn, this is going to be one hell of a show if this is indeed true.
where is the link and/or the pics!!? don't make us go look around!!
Title: Super Mario Bros. Wii!!??
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 02:42:08 AM
x-rayd version of images from IGN
(http://i39.tinypic.com/20l0cp4.jpg) you can clearly see a fire flower
(http://i41.tinypic.com/34rwyls.jpg) You can easily make out Super at the top
(http://i40.tinypic.com/30u2utx.jpg) and these are hung in the Wii section of the booth for those wondering
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Post by: King of Twitch on June 02, 2009, 02:57:27 AM
Those boxes are full of Icarus hopes that are going to be shredded tomorrow
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 02, 2009, 03:20:05 AM
I personally don't care about dance mats and cameras. To me, these things should have absolutely nothing to do with gaming. Just give me a new 2D Metroid and a sequel to Super Mario RPG and I'll be satisfied for the year.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 03:23:17 AM
I personally don't care about dance mats and cameras. To me, these things should have absolutely nothing to do with gaming. Just give me a new 2D Metroid and a sequel to Super Mario RPG and I'll be satisfied for the year.
Gaming is for ME no one else. ::cries::
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Post by: King of Twitch on June 02, 2009, 03:24:33 AM
Duh, you can't spell game without me
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Post by: Mop it up on June 02, 2009, 03:29:43 AM
"Non-game" and "non-gamer" are two of the most ridiculous terms I have ever heard. They were definitely created as derogatory terms, there's no way they aren't...
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Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2009, 03:32:25 AM
Unfortunately they've seeped into the vocabulary, and it's going to take awhile to enact the cultural change to replace them with more positive concepts.
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Post by: Stogi on June 02, 2009, 03:38:03 AM
Non-game and non-gamer are pretty silly, but there is a need to specify those games from other games, just like any other genre.
Any suggestions?
Personally, games like WiiFit are actually apps in that they are supposed to be appllied in order to reach a goal. Brain Age and others fit into this app group. However, there are games like Animal Crossing that don't really fit anywhere. It's like a virtual world where there is no goal but to entertian yourself. Those games are more like toys, in that they take extra creativity from the user to make them more entertaining.
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Post by: Mop it up on June 02, 2009, 03:42:45 AM
I don't think that what are currently labeled as "non-games" really need to have a label.
Wii Sports is a sports game. Wii Play is a minigame collection. Wii Fit is a physical fitness game. Wii Music is a music/rhythm game.
There's really no need for distinction beyond that.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 03:43:43 AM
Do I really REALLY want a new Mario, Zelda or more core franchise? Definately but I can also get excited for casual oriented games as well if they are good. I think I'm the first step in gamer evolution, a gamer/non-gamer hybrid!
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Post by: Stogi on June 02, 2009, 03:47:33 AM
But while Chess and hungry hungry hippos are both board games, they are still very different games.
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Post by: Mop it up on June 02, 2009, 03:51:47 AM
Yeah, one is a strategy game and the other is a button-masher. But they are both still games.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 03:54:41 AM
"Non-game" and "non-gamer" are two of the most ridiculous terms I have ever heard. They were definitely created as derogatory terms, there's no way they aren't...
Well, on the bright side at least hardly anyone uses the "kiddie" slur anymore. It would be kinda hard for them to use that when a large number of "gamers" who play these "games" are middle-aged and over.
But are they really "games" or are they just exercises and activities for the elderly?
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Post by: bustin98 on June 02, 2009, 09:06:25 AM
So, chatroom on IRC today??
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Post by: Stogi on June 02, 2009, 09:19:42 AM
chatango is better
nintendoworldreport.chatango.com
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Post by: NovaQ on June 02, 2009, 10:03:21 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/20l0cp4.jpg) you can clearly see a fire flower
(http://i41.tinypic.com/34rwyls.jpg) You can easily make out Super at the top
Those look so Photoshopped it ain't even funny.
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Post by: stevey on June 02, 2009, 11:31:51 AM
So, where is everyone watching it?
Gamespot?
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Post by: vudu on June 02, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
That's what I'm doing. link (http://e3.gamespot.com/press-conference/nintendo-e3/?tag=topslot;thumb;1)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2009, 11:51:52 AM
Looks like I can't use the computer today.Someone direct me to a live blog. Someone else is going to have to post everything.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 11:52:02 AM
Watching LIVE on G4 commercial free.
The thing about the xrayd pics, is that if you look at the original pics (on IGN) you can already see same object through the cover. The xrayd pics are actually filtered in photoshop to make the things you could see stand out a little bit more.
believe it or not. all will be revealed within the next 2.5 hrs.
NSMBWii Believe
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
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Post by: Caterkiller on June 02, 2009, 01:17:57 PM
I am excited for Galaxy especialy because of Yoshi, but that Metroid Trailer blew me away! Samus had something in a head lock blasting it away at the same time. Ridely big as ever holding her tight! Man oh man oh man! This is a very happy birthday for me!
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 01:18:29 PM
I did and I said Wow. Looks stunning and it should be interesting to see who at Nintendo is co-developing with team ninja. Great upcoming first party lineup (and 3rd party to a lesser extent). I mean two new Wii Marios announced on the same show?
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Post by: Mop it up on June 02, 2009, 01:18:35 PM
I missed the Metroid trailer, what did it look like? Did it have a 3D perspective or 2D?
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 01:19:07 PM
Does someone want to complile all of the announcements into 1 post? I would appreciate it.
From the Live Blog:
New Super Mario Bros for Wii!!! 4 players! Launching holiday 09
Wii Fit Plus announced Can become your own trainer, 6 new yoga and strength activities Keeps track of calories burned, 15 new balance board games Comes out this fall. As a bundle with Balance Board or by itself
Wii Sports Resort showing Skydiving, Archery, and Basketball (and rowing?)
Square is bringing Kingdom Hearts for DS on Sept 29th
Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside story will be release in NA and EU this fall
Golden Sun DS
C.O.P. from Ubisoft for DS
Style Savy for female gamers
Mario Vs Donkey Kong 3 allows players to make levels, upload levels locally or online only for DSi via DSiWare
Wario Ware DIY Can share levels to other owners
Wii Vitality Sensor Senses a player's pulse
Super Mario Galaxy 2!! YOSHI!! Graphics look amazing
Team Ninja is making a game with Nintendo, Project M Metroid Other M Nintendo and team ninja making a metroid game!!! 2D metroid releases in 2010
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Post by: NovaQ on June 02, 2009, 01:28:10 PM
Does someone want to complile all of the announcements into 1 post? I would appreciate it.
Here goes:
New Super Mario Bros. for Wii has four players and a new cap (propeller). Wii Fit Plus has new exercises, counts cals, and lets you design your own workout. Wii Sports Resort will feature sky diving, canoeing, basketball, and archery.
Some DS stuff... (James Patterson murder mystery, Ubisoft's C.O.P. looks like GTA, Nintendo's beauty shop game is coming Stateside)
Iwata revealed the Vitality Sensor, which is supposed to help gamers get more relaxed by attaching to a player's finger and reading his/her pulse. Details were slim.
Reggie reveals Mario Galaxy 2, which includes shootin' 'round space with Yoshi. He reviewed upcoming 3rd party games: Conduit, RE Darkside, and Dead Space (all of which will be on the show floor).
The show finished with the reveal of a Team Ninja / Nintendo joint project for a 3rd-person Metroid for Wii called Metroid: other M. It looks to focus on story, has nice looking cutscenes and sweet bosses.
Edit: D'oh! Never mind, I was outdone in timeliness and content!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 01:28:18 PM
Am I the only one seeing thru their evil?
They get to do whatever they want now that Itagaki jumped ship?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 01:28:52 PM
I'm kind of surprised there weren't any more Wii Motion Plus games announced...
I guess with WiiSports Resort, Red Steel 2, and EA's sports offerings (and Virtua Tennis), Nintendo figured that was enough for now? I'm sure there will be more revealed at GDC or "Space World" later in the year.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
I'm kind of surprised there weren't any more Wii Motion Plus games announced...
I guess with WiiSports Resort, Red Steel 2, and EA's sports offerings (and Virtua Tennis), Nintendo figured that was enough for now? I'm sure there will be more revealed at GDC or "Space World" later in the year.
We also have the rest of E3 for something to be announced (or shown behind closed doors).
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
Thanks alot NovaQ and Mop_it_up for the summarys!
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Post by: ThePerm on June 02, 2009, 01:41:15 PM
I'm kind of surprised there weren't any more Wii Motion Plus games announced...
I guess with WiiSports Resort, Red Steel 2, and EA's sports offerings (and Virtua Tennis), Nintendo figured that was enough for now? I'm sure there will be more revealed at GDC or "Space World" later in the year.
We also have the rest of E3 for something to be announced (or shown behind closed doors).
Very true.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 01:43:25 PM
GDC is in January, I think you meant TGS.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
The game I'm wondering about is the next Pikmin, you can't tell me it isn't yet in viewable form by now.
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Post by: NovaQ on June 02, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
Also, I just noticed in the Metroid video that there was a short bit with very familiar-looking first person view (though it looks to be the exception this time around) and Samus was getting in close to do some serious scrappin'! It looks like grabbing guys and throwing them around will be a big addition to combat. (And was that Mother Brain in her bipedal form at the end, there?)
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 01:49:02 PM
No but they usually have a pretty big press conference before it.
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Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2009, 01:51:28 PM
The fact that Trace Memory/Another Code Wii was not announced for North America means I refuse to buy any of these games. EXCITE-STRIKE WEEK SEVEN BROTHERS UNITE
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 01:53:46 PM
Miyamoto will announce he's working on Pikmin during a roundtable. That is all.
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Post by: Caterkiller on June 02, 2009, 02:54:52 PM
Yes that was certainly the mother brain. Looked very much like a cut scene, probably a flash back.
Geez, no Donkey Kong or Star Fox? I mean I am plenty satisfied with what has been shown, and we may get some Brawl like surprise later, but where are these franchises?
By the way, check out the KOTOR MMO Thread, you can see me in the trailer for the game!
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Post by: Louieturkey on June 02, 2009, 04:05:42 PM
Wii Sports archery looked like so much fun. This is the first time I've been really excited for Wii Sports 2 since it was announced.
Didn't Mario & Sonic at the Summer Olympics already do Wii Sports archery?
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Post by: bustin98 on June 02, 2009, 04:28:54 PM
Look at the list of games on the floor of E3:
Nintendo-published games available to play on the show floor:
Wii: • New Super Mario Bros. Wii™ • Wii Fit™ Plus • Wii Sports Resort™ • Sin and Punishment™ 2 • Endless Ocean™ 2 • Line Attack Heroes™ • Span Smasher™
What are those last two? I pulled the list from Nintendo's press site.
Edit: nevermind. I googled them. Looks like more 'casual' fare. I'm sure we'll get reports from the show on them.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 04:36:36 PM
OMG Endless Ocean 2 must see imrpessions!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 04:38:23 PM
Well, there you have it.
Ian, broodwars, and myself uniformly agreed on something. The raping of Indi- i mean Metroid.
Best E3 ever. Say it with me,
"Best E3 ever."
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Ian, broodwars, and myself uniformly agreed on something. Best E3 ever.
Say it with me,
"Best E3 ever."
Pro the next troll in the making. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 04:41:39 PM
You were supposed to say, "Best E3 ever."
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 05:01:53 PM
Zelda cancelled
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Post by: Mop it up on June 02, 2009, 05:05:01 PM
Looks like the Nintendo Channel will features some videos from E3 so I wonder if I'll be able to catch the trailers I missed.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2009, 08:18:31 PM
We've all have discussed what was shown so far at E3 2009, but what we haven't really done is discuss what hasn't been shown. What else is out there that we know about that is no where to be found?
We touched on what Retro is doing. Reggie says "There are working hard, but we can't show what they are working on this E3.' But what about everyone else. Where is Monster Hunter 3? What is MonolithSoft doing? Where is Pikmin 3? When do we find out more about that camera that Nintendo & Ubisoft are working on?
Where is everything I mentioned above and is there anything else that we know about that hasn't been mentioned yet?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2009, 08:54:10 PM
Shiguru Miyamoto Round table Live blog
http://wii.ign.com/articles/989/989996p1.html
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 08:55:26 PM
We've all have discussed what was shown so far at E3 2009, but what we haven't really done is discuss what hasn't been shown. What else is out there that we know about that is no where to be found?
We touched on what Retro is doing. Reggie says "There are working hard, but we can't show what they are working on this E3.' But what about everyone else. Where is Monster Hunter 3? What is MonolithSoft doing? Where is Pikmin 3? When do we find out more about that camera that Nintendo & Ubisoft are working on?
Where is everything I mentioned above and is there anything else that we know about that hasn't been mentioned yet?
There is also the mysterious Kingdom Hearts game for Wii that popped up on IGN.
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Post by: NovaQ on June 02, 2009, 08:55:49 PM
We've all have discussed what was shown so far at E3 2009, but what we haven't really done is discuss what hasn't been shown. What else is out there that we know about that is no where to be found?
We touched on what Retro is doing. Reggie says "There are working hard, but we can't show what they are working on this E3.' But what about everyone else. Where is Monster Hunter 3? What is MonolithSoft doing? Where is Pikmin 3? When do we find out more about that camera that Nintendo & Ubisoft are working on?
Where is everything I mentioned above and is there anything else that we know about that hasn't been mentioned yet?
MH3: Does anyone know if Capcom is having their own press meeting? I imagine they'd show it there if so. Edit: Never mind, Capcom has no show. I guess MH3 will be a no-show?
Monolithsoft game: Not ready yet? Still reeling over the commercial disaster that was Disaster?
Ubisoft's camera: Ubisoft showed it off at their own press meeting. It seems that it's more their brainchild than Nintendo's, and I don't think it was meant to be a response to MS or Sony's camera technologies. What Ubisoft showed of it yesterday might be all we see of it for a while, especially if it's still in the works.
Pikmin 3: I dunno. Maybe it'll get a Brawl-style private reveal later at E3?
There is also the mysterious Kingdom Hearts game for Wii that popped up on IGN.
Square-Enix's press meeting is tonight (edit: tomorrow night), though I have a feeling there will be no KH Wii reveal.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2009, 09:04:33 PM
NovaQ the last two conferences tomorrow are SquareEnix and Konami.
Miyamoto's round table is now.
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Post by: IceCold on June 03, 2009, 02:08:38 AM
The bastards didn't announce F-Zero Wii. Dammit.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
Square Enix conference is mostly gonna be one Final Fantasy blending into the Next Final Fantasy, until you get to FFCC and DQIX. FFXIII (PS3/X360) FFXIIIvs (PS3) FFXIIIvsAdvent Apocalypse or whateever the the other 3 FFXIII games are, FFXIV (PS3) Its gonna be Final Fantasy overload.
I hope they spend a good amount of time going over FFCC and DQIX since those are the next two to get released, and hopefully a sneak peak at DQX for Wii too.
I'm also hoping Konami does a nice presentation for Silent Hill: SM. The walk-through on IGN (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/143/14325477/vids_1.html) looked pretty good and was kinda like watching a sneak peak at a movie.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 03, 2009, 03:21:39 AM
I just want to say that today was Unbeliveably Awesome!!
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: NovaQ on June 03, 2009, 10:44:25 AM
We've all have discussed what was shown so far at E3 2009, but what we haven't really done is discuss what hasn't been shown. What else is out there that we know about that is no where to be found?
We touched on what Retro is doing. Reggie says "There are working hard, but we can't show what they are working on this E3.' But what about everyone else. Where is Monster Hunter 3? What is MonolithSoft doing? Where is Pikmin 3? When do we find out more about that camera that Nintendo & Ubisoft are working on?
Where is everything I mentioned above and is there anything else that we know about that hasn't been mentioned yet?
Blah blah
Monolithsoft game: Not ready yet? Still reeling over the commercial disaster that was Disaster?
Etc.
Well, MonolithSoft's next project seems to be Monado: Beginning of the World, which looks to have some great, KH-esque potential. Maxi started a thread here (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28408.msg518187#msg518187).
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 03, 2009, 01:21:18 PM
What was not shown was Dynamic Slash. And Cosmic Walker.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Caterkiller on June 03, 2009, 03:33:12 PM
We got a report from Nintendo even befor the Wii was released about them working on Donkey Kong. Now where is my Donkey Kong? Should I just give up on him like Star Fox and Sonic and just live out their glory in smash?
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 03, 2009, 03:38:01 PM
DK Jet Race?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 03, 2009, 03:40:51 PM
No Wand of Magic either.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 03, 2009, 05:29:21 PM
DK Sports
It will use the Balance Board, Bongos, plus an all new rope swinging peripheral that attachs to your ceiling! Your whole family will be going "ape" in no time. Includes such wholesame family minigames as Feces throwing, banana peeling, and beating the crap out of your zookeeper. With Motion Plus support!!
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Post by: EasyCure on June 03, 2009, 05:31:11 PM
It will use the Balance Board, Bongos, plus an all new rope swinging peripheral that attachs to your ceiling! Your whole family will be going "ape" in no time. Includes such wholesame family minigames as Feces throwing, banana peeling, and beating the crap out of your zookeeper. With Motion Plus support!!
FAP!
Title: Oooh Yeaaah!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2009, 05:41:40 PM
It will use the Balance Board, Bongos, plus an all new rope swinging peripheral that attachs to your ceiling! Your whole family will be going "ape" in no time. Includes such wholesame family minigames as Feces throwing, banana peeling, and beating the crap out of your zookeeper. With Motion Plus support!!
It will use the Balance Board, Bongos, plus an all new rope swinging peripheral that attachs to your ceiling! Your whole family will be going "ape" in no time. Includes such wholesame family minigames as Feces throwing, banana peeling, and beating the crap out of your zookeeper. With Motion Plus support!!
I laughed so much after that I drooled on the floor! Now thats comedy!
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 04, 2009, 04:33:58 AM
I don't know if you guys checked the front page or not but if you don't like the Wii as a white system you really should check it out.
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Post by: ShyGuy on June 04, 2009, 03:37:12 PM
we know what you meant Maxi, just giving you a hard time.
Title: Re: E3 2009 to reveal big software, from the man himself, Iwata. PS2 in his sights.
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 04, 2009, 04:42:47 PM
I know. I was just playing along.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 04, 2009, 06:35:45 PM
Personally, I'd prefer to see a Platinum Wii. It would fit in better with my platinum GC, GBA SP, and DS.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 05, 2009, 04:57:41 AM
I just want to say to the staff that everybody did a excellent job covering the event. That is all.
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Post by: broodwars on June 05, 2009, 05:54:56 PM
For lack of a better place to post this, I'll post this link here:
http://games.ign.com/articles/992/992178p1.html
Man, IGN just went off on Nintendo on this week's Game Scoop (it's towards the end of the podcast). Sheesh, they make Ian and I look kind. Even I wouldn't go so far as to say some of the things they said about the Wii in general. Enjoy?
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Post by: EasyCure on June 05, 2009, 06:01:21 PM
For lack of a better place to post this, I'll post this link here:
http://games.ign.com/articles/992/992178p1.html
Man, IGN just went off on Nintendo on this week's Game Scoop (it's towards the end of the podcast). Sheesh, they make Ian and I look kind. Even I wouldn't go so far as to say some of the things they said about the Wii in general. Enjoy?
Excerpts for the lazy?
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Post by: broodwars on June 05, 2009, 06:07:18 PM
For lack of a better place to post this, I'll post this link here:
http://games.ign.com/articles/992/992178p1.html
Man, IGN just went off on Nintendo on this week's Game Scoop (it's towards the end of the podcast). Sheesh, they make Ian and I look kind. Even I wouldn't go so far as to say some of the things they said about the Wii in general. Enjoy?
Excerpts for the lazy?
If needed, I will when I get home. I'm at work right now. Besides, it kind of helps if you listen to the whole podcast anyway just for context, so you can hear the games they were interested in.
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Post by: King of Twitch on June 05, 2009, 06:44:47 PM
That was stupid. Too bad they didn't pull a Carradine before recording that
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 05, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
