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Title: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 08, 2008, 06:43:09 PM
I know we have a couple of football fans on staff (me, Greg, James), so let's talk about it.
Week 1 was pretty crazy, with the Falcons running all over Detroit to the tune of 318 yards rushing, Tom Brady suffering a season-ending injury (which broke Greg's heart, I'm sure), the Bills scoring on a fake field goal play, and San Diego losing at home thanks to a last-second Jake Delhomme pump-fake bullet TD pass.
Tonights game is Vikings/Packers. Any predictions? I think that Green Bay is going to emerge victorious, 24-13.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on September 08, 2008, 07:56:38 PM
I've only gotten into football in the last few years. Originally I was more into CFL because, well, the BC Lions are a local team that I can root for and go see live. Two years ago the Lions won the Grey Cup and my Dad and I saw the semi-final game that was the last home game of the year live. It was a great moment to be there for.
But I'm a bad Canadian because over time I've realized I like the American game more. The difference is the amount of downs. In Canadian football you only get three. That results in more emphasis on passing which makes for exciting football when it works. The problem is passing is risky so when I watch a CFL game there appears to be more changes in posession. There's less room for error so that means less first downs, less drives, less last second magic. I like how with four downs in American football you can eat away at the yards a bit by rushing. In the CFL you pretty much go for 10 yards every play because you need that second down as a back up.
I was planning on watching three games yesterday. But unfortunately the cable company screwed me out the middle game. In Canada there's a rule where if a Canadian and American station are showing the same thing it automatically switches to the Canadian feed so you watch the local commercials. So even if my TV was set to Fox I got CTV. The Seahawks were playing and they're kind of like Vancouver's local NFL team so that made sense. CTV however was not airing the second game. Now the feed should have then switched from CTV back to Fox but it didn't. ARRRGH!!! I called the cable company but whoever I got on the other end had no understanding of my problem at all. She thought I was trying to watch a PPV game or that I wanted them to magically change what shows Fox broadcasts. I just wanted them to push the stupid button that makes Fox go back to Fox again!
Though things actually worked for the best. I went on MSN during the time the game should have been on and by fluke ran into a girl I know and managed to score a date out of it. :) Had the cable company not goofed then I never would have bumped into her. Ha ha!
My brother doesn't watch any sports and knows very little about them but he got a real kick out of Tom Brady getting injured. I know we shouldn't cheer a guy getting hurt but this is like karma for Spygate and running up the score last season and acting like the perfect season was a sure thing. I hope Tom suffers no permanent injury and plays again but come on. The bastards cheat but still get to go into the Superbowl undefeated only to be upset by a team people questioned would even make the playoffs and then lose their star player to injury in the first game of the next season? This is like a storybook ending for the ultimate "bad guy" team. Perhaps this is the begining of a Curse of Spygate?
Am I being immature? Maybe but come one. It's sports and it's not like Brady will never walk again. The commentators act like this is a sad day for football fans but I'm pretty sure most fans of contenders are drooling at the possibility of this allowing their team to go all the way. Supporting a bottom dweller is frustrating but what's even more frustrating is when your team seems to have the talent to challenge for a title but some dynasty team keeps getting in the way. You get the feeling that if that stupid team wasn't so good your team would be a shoe-in for the title. And it feels like your wasting the elite players your team has. Think of how San Diego Chargers fans are feeling. This is probably the best the franchise has ever been but they have no Superbowl to show for it. So with the Pats, who have already won three Superbowls for their fans, out of the way maybe they have a shot now. They'll still have to beat other talented teams (Colts, Steelers, Cowboys) to get there so it's not like they won't earn it.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: nickmitch on September 08, 2008, 09:00:46 PM
Saints go all the way. Saints go all the waaaay.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 08, 2008, 10:56:38 PM
I like the Seahawks and Eagles.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2008, 11:43:21 PM
I was really excited and optimistic about my Browns this season, but after watching them yesterday I'm wondering who they're going to take with the first overall pick next year.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 09, 2008, 01:09:45 AM
I was almost right about that Packers/Vikings score, and I totally forgot that the Raiders were playing Denver.
My God, the Raiders are horrible. Insanolord, your Browns have some serious competition for the #1 pick thanks to the Al Davis Travelling Circus.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2008, 02:02:52 AM
Yeah, they won't get the number one pick. And hey, my prediction for the season could still come true, that they would lose the first game to the Cowboys and then win 18 in a row.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on September 09, 2008, 08:10:29 AM
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 09, 2008, 03:54:34 PM
The Aint's really oughta win the NFC South handily. They don't get a whole lot of publicity (I swear, you hear more about Hurricane Katrina than you do about the team itself when commentators talk about the Saints), but their offense is stacked. Brees, Colston, Bush, Shockey...those are some sick positional players.
This week's schedule:
Week 2
SUN, SEP 14 (ALL TIMES EST) Tennessee at Cincinnati 1:00 PM Green Bay at Detroit 1:00 PM Oakland at Kansas City 1:00 PM NY Giants at St. Louis 1:00 PM Indianapolis at Minnesota 1:00 PM New Orleans at Washington 1:00 PM Chicago at Carolina 1:00 PM Buffalo at Jacksonville 1:00 PM San Francisco at Seattle 4:05 PM Atlanta at Tampa Bay 4:05 PM Baltimore at Houston 4:15 PM New England at NY Jets 4:15 PM Miami at Arizona 4:15 PM San Diego at Denver 4:15 PM Pittsburgh at Cleveland 8:15 PM
MON, SEP 15 (ALL TIMES EST) Philadelphia at Dallas 8:30 PM
Thoughts on the upcoming week:
- Detroit is going 0-2...why does anybody cheer for them? - Oakland vs. KC is scalper's day off if I've ever seen it - Wonder if Indy can get off the schneid at Minnesota? - Patriots vs. Jets is now a HUGE game
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 09, 2008, 04:42:42 PM
My God, the Raiders are horrible. Insanolord, your Browns have some serious competition for the #1 pick thanks to the Al Davis Travelling Circus.
Now that I live in Denver, the Bronco's have become my back up team to cheer for. That was an entertaining game to watch, lots of fireworks from Cutler and Royal. I actually drafted Royal for my fantasy team and completely forgot to start him this week knowing he'd get some passes with Marshall out.
Should be interesting to watch them against SD. If they can trample them handily this city will cheer louder than they did Obama at the DNC. 8)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2008, 04:47:44 PM
I live in Erie, PA, which is about equal distance from Cleveland and Pittsburgh, and the Browns-Steelers games are just about the biggest sporting events of the year around here. A Browns win Sunday night makes the season a whole lot better even if we do end up with the number 1 pick.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 09, 2008, 06:35:35 PM
I live in Erie, PA, which is about equal distance from Cleveland and Pittsburgh, and the Browns-Steelers games are just about the biggest sporting events of the year around here. A Browns win Sunday night makes the season a whole lot better even if we do end up with the number 1 pick.
I hear ya, same thing happens in Chicago when the Bears route the Packers.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on September 09, 2008, 06:50:54 PM
Same thing happens here with the Colts/Bears. Lot of Bears fans in Indiana.
Not a lot of Saints fans............
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 09, 2008, 07:15:55 PM
Same thing happens here with the Colts/Bears. Lot of Bears fans in Indiana.
Not a lot of Saints fans............
How did the fans take the Bears crashing their new stadium party? People pretty down, or just writing it off as a fluke since Manning wasn't 100%?
They were just as shocked as Colts fans. They thought they had the worst team in the league besides Oakland.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale on September 10, 2008, 04:34:38 PM
Go Bills!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2008, 10:48:35 PM
I am against the Bills because of the stupid NFL rules that make Erie in the Bills market so whenever the Bills are away they have to be on TV despite the fact that only about 10 or 15% of the people here are Bills fans versus about 40% each for Cleveland and Pittsburgh. As much of a jerk as it makes me, especially being a Browns fan and having had it happen to me, I am fully in favor of the Bills moving to Toronto because it would make us a Cleveland market.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 10, 2008, 11:40:26 PM
I root for whoever is playing against the Dolphins...I live in Florida. My wife is from Pittsburgh(ish), and her whole family adores the Steelers, so I also root for whoever is playing against them. We went there a couple years ago, right after they lost to Jacksonville, so I bought a Jaguars hat on the way up there.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Yoshidious on September 11, 2008, 12:44:40 AM
Let me lend some Bills fan solidarity with a second:
GO BILLS!
This is shaping up to be a very exciting season as the established order in the AFC has been upset with a rash of severe injuries: Brady, Merriman, and the entirety of the Jags' interior offensive line. These losses are sad for those teams and indeed the league in general, but undeniably they will make things more competitive and interesting. Here's a frighteningly awesome thought for Bills fans: if we defeat Jacksonville with their depleted o-line this week, only the Raiders and the Rams stand in the way of us going 4-0 for the first time since the early 90s.
Also, don't write-off the Bears' win against the Colts as a one-off or product of Manning rustiness; with Mike Brown and Tommie Harris healthy (and admittedly their ability to remain so is still a big question), that defense is good enough to carry them to big things. For all the ridicule of Orton, they had a playoff season with him at the helm as a rookie back in 2005--that should tell you a lot about just how good that D is when it has all its pieces together. My biggest question about them coming into the year was whether the run game could rebound from its abysmal showing last year, but with Forte and Jones back there and a reconfigured line, the 183 yards they racked up against the Colts suggests they're on the right track.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale on September 11, 2008, 08:58:14 AM
I am against the Bills because of the stupid NFL rules that make Erie in the Bills market so whenever the Bills are away they have to be on TV despite the fact that only about 10 or 15% of the people here are Bills fans versus about 40% each for Cleveland and Pittsburgh. As much of a jerk as it makes me, especially being a Browns fan and having had it happen to me, I am fully in favor of the Bills moving to Toronto because it would make us a Cleveland market.
If you are in Erie, doesn't that make you closest to Orchard Park geographically? It's gotta only be like a 1.5 to 2 hour drive.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2008, 09:16:47 AM
It's about 1.5-2 hours to Buffalo, Cleveland, or Pittsburgh, but we're slightly closer to Buffalo, that's why we're a Buffalo TV market. If they move to Toronto we'll be closest to Cleveland. Either that or put the Bills in the NFC.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 11, 2008, 10:17:42 AM
Speaking of the Bills, how will David Gerrad's performance be against them? I've got to start him or Tony Romo (against PHI this Sun) for my Fantasy Team. My intuition tells me Romo will have the bigger game, as he knows their defense pretty well by now.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2008, 10:25:19 AM
I hope Romo has a big game because that means the Cowboys are passing a lot, which probably means they're losing, which probably means the Eagles will be putting the ball in the hands of Brian Westbrook more. My number 2 overall pick didn't do that great last week. Also, I'm hoping both as a Browns fan and a fantasy owner that Braylon Edwards learns how to hold onto the damn ball; he dropped a lot of passes last week, many of which while wide open.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 11, 2008, 11:10:44 AM
Also, don't write-off the Bears' win against the Colts as a one-off or product of Manning rustiness; with Mike Brown and Tommie Harris healthy (and admittedly their ability to remain so is still a big question), that defense is good enough to carry them to big things. For all the ridicule of Orton, they had a playoff season with him at the helm as a rookie back in 2005--that should tell you a lot about just how good that D is when it has all its pieces together. My biggest question about them coming into the year was whether the run game could rebound from its abysmal showing last year, but with Forte and Jones back there and a reconfigured line, the 183 yards they racked up against the Colts suggests they're on the right track.
Most definitely! I've been saying for months now the Bears D has been a sleeping Giant ever since their SB loss to Indy. What put them to sleep you ask, none other than Rex Grossman handing the Lambardi Trophy over to Manning midway through the 1st quarter. Knowing that Rex would still be behind the helm the following season, any rational defender would know you don't have a prayer to go even 500 (considering you'll get a 30 sec break off the field as the Bears offense does a quick 3 and out).
All the D needs is a spark in either the running or passing game, and Forte could certainely be that spark. The passing game isn't quite there yet, but Orton seems to have the good sense to play within his ability thus limiting turnovers.
Here's to new life for Buffalo and Chicago!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Yoshidious on September 11, 2008, 11:12:05 AM
Speaking of the Bills, how will David Gerrad's performance be against them? I've got to start him or Tony Romo (against PHI this Sun) for my Fantasy Team. My intuition tells me Romo will have the bigger game, as he knows their defense pretty well by now.
I am a Bills fan so take this for what it's worth: Looking at how Garrard struggled in Tennessee last week (he threw two picks in that game whereas he threw three during the entirety of the 2007 regular season), it seems like the problems with the interior offensive line are affecting his productivity. Also, don't forget that the Bills traded for former Jags DT Marcus Stroud this year, so you can bet he will be fired up to take advantage of their backup linemen and wreak havoc on his old team. Last week the Bills defense sacked Hasselbeck 5 times and hurried him many more, so the signs are pointing towards a relatively tough day for Garrard--either that or maybe he'll just hand-off the ball for the whole game, and either way is not great for fantasy owners.
So I would recommend going with your intuition and starting Romo for this week. Even with the addition of Asante Samuel I don't see the Eagles secondary shutting down the Dallas passing attack.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on September 11, 2008, 12:07:36 PM
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As much of a jerk as it makes me, especially being a Browns fan and having had it happen to me, I am fully in favor of the Bills moving to Toronto because it would make us a Cleveland market.
I'm against the move because if the Bills moved to Toronto that would almost surely kill off the Argos and likely the Tiger-Cats as well and thus possibly kill off the CFL completely. It might be a bush league but it allows me to see pro football for cheap and without travelling to Seattle. Plus unlike the Canucks the Lions are a Vancouver sports team that has actually won the big one, and does so somewhat frequently too.
But if say the NFL wanted to put in team in Vancouver then that's a completely different scenario. CFWhat? ;)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2008, 12:16:21 PM
As much of a jerk as it makes me, especially being a Browns fan and having had it happen to me, I am fully in favor of the Bills moving to Toronto because it would make us a Cleveland market.
I'm against the move because if the Bills moved to Toronto that would almost surely kill off the Argos and likely the Tiger-Cats as well and thus possibly kill off the CFL completely. It might be a bush league but it allows me to see pro football for cheap and without travelling to Seattle. Plus unlike the Canucks the Lions are a Vancouver sports team that has actually won the big one, and does so somewhat frequently too.
But if say the NFL wanted to put in team in Vancouver then that's a completely different scenario. CFWhat? ;)
The problem with Canadian teams is that, apart from the Bills and Toronto, there's no way it could happen without expansion teams and 32 teams is the perfect size for the league. I'd absolutely hate any expansion until they got to 36 teams (back to 3 divisions per conference, six teams each), which, considering Goodell's talk of expanding into Europe, isn't completely out of the question.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: DAaaMan64 on September 11, 2008, 12:17:38 PM
I always come in and close this thread just os that stupid NEW symbol will go away.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Ian Sane on September 11, 2008, 01:28:16 PM
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The problem with Canadian teams is that, apart from the Bills and Toronto, there's no way it could happen without expansion teams and 32 teams is the perfect size for the league. I'd absolutely hate any expansion until they got to 36 teams (back to 3 divisions per conference, six teams each), which, considering Goodell's talk of expanding into Europe, isn't completely out of the question.
Expanding the NFL into Europe? Where the hell besides the US and Canada does anyone play or watch "gridiron" football? Of the four major North American sports football is by far the least popular worldwide. European expansion for any of the big four is very ambitious, especially involving the huge transportation costs and time zone differences. I think NFL should fill up all the possible North American markets first before even thinking of Europe. And it might be smart to let the NBA or NHL take the risk and prove the concept first.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
The transportation and time zone issues are a lot less of a problem in football than they are in basketball and hockey due to only playing one game a week, but I'm certain the NBA will be in Europe long before the other leagues. Expanding with 4 teams, 3 Canadian and one to LA, could work, though.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 11, 2008, 01:52:46 PM
Speaking of the Bills, how will David Gerrad's performance be against them? I've got to start him or Tony Romo (against PHI this Sun) for my Fantasy Team. My intuition tells me Romo will have the bigger game, as he knows their defense pretty well by now.
I am a Bills fan so take this for what it's worth: Looking at how Garrard struggled in Tennessee last week (he threw two picks in that game whereas he threw three during the entirety of the 2007 regular season), it seems like the problems with the interior offensive line are affecting his productivity. Also, don't forget that the Bills traded for former Jags DT Marcus Stroud this year, so you can bet he will be fired up to take advantage of their backup linemen and wreak havoc on his old team. Last week the Bills defense sacked Hasselbeck 5 times and hurried him many more, so the signs are pointing towards a relatively tough day for Garrard--either that or maybe he'll just hand-off the ball for the whole game, and either way is not great for fantasy owners.
So I would recommend going with your intuition and starting Romo for this week. Even with the addition of Asante Samuel I don't see the Eagles secondary shutting down the Dallas passing attack.
Way to break it down, that sounds like a hell of a day for Garrad! I think I'll definitely go with Romo as he rung up some big points last week!
Where do you get all of your NFL pointers from? Do you get the NFL Network out there? Do you do an NFL podcast in your spare time? Do you have to go through a lot of hoops to see televised games?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 11, 2008, 05:09:13 PM
Greg is just an NFLoholic, that's all. The guy follows other people's teams more closely than I follow my Falcons.
Speaking of which, I was very pleased to see Jeff Garcia put on the bench this week. Griese isn't bad, but it's always nice to play against a backup instead of a starter. Matt Ryan is going to have a hard time against the Bucs defense, though...hopefully Derrick Brooks is out as well.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 11, 2008, 06:29:06 PM
Greg is just an NFLoholic, that's all. The guy follows other people's teams more closely than I follow my Falcons.
Speaking of which, I was very pleased to see Jeff Garcia put on the bench this week. Griese isn't bad, but it's always nice to play against a backup instead of a starter. Matt Ryan is going to have a hard time against the Bucs defense, though...hopefully Derrick Brooks is out as well.
You definitely have a good shot against Griese. The best adjective I can think of to describe him is "bland". I was happy to see the Bears cut him. As long as the Falcons cover their men decently well, they should be able to stop the big play. Be warned though, he came through in the clutch two times last year for walk off wins after big passes (one of them to my main man HESTER!).
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale on September 11, 2008, 11:23:16 PM
The Bills should forget about Toronto and move the stadium out to Batavia, NY. That would make it halfway between Buffalo and Rochester right on the NYS thruway, taking full advantage of both markets for ticket purchases.
Also, if the suckiness does happen and Toronto steals the Bills, I want to steal the freaking Raptors.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 12, 2008, 03:06:38 PM
Dude, you can have the Raptors. I hate that franchise.
I'm sure Tampa will go deep on the Falcons CBs, but they held their own against Williams and Johnson last week though. I'm more worried about Ryan getting picked off by that Tampa Bay D, which has typically eaten Falcons QBs alive in the past.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 12, 2008, 03:24:05 PM
Is it too much to ask for a Week 2 performance out of Derek Anderson like his Week 2 performance last year?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Neal on September 15, 2008, 12:18:02 AM
I'm a little late to the party, but Go Pack Go! Despite the fact that they almost blew it, I really enjoyed looking at the final statistics for this game. This team is very solid.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2008, 12:24:03 AM
Romeo Crennel has no idea how to manage clock. Complete misuse of time outs at the end of both halves cost the Browns that game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale on September 15, 2008, 09:45:45 AM
God, looking at the Bills' sechdule, they better win 10 games this year...
Still to go: San Fran Arizona Oakland Miami x2 Kansas City
That's six more wins right there. And I hope to god we can at least split with the Bradyless Patriots this year.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 15, 2008, 10:52:50 AM
Romeo Crennel has no idea how to manage clock. Complete misuse of time outs at the end of both halves cost the Browns that game.
Your a correct sir. I rarely watch the Browns, but I caught last nights game and I was SHOCKED how badly he managed the clock. On top of that, he didn't have the balls to go for it on 4th and 7 with 2 and a minute and a half left on the clock, down by a touchdown.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 15, 2008, 03:14:34 PM
Great quote from Bill Simmons on ESPN.com: "Romeo Crennel stopped making the Art Shell face, and actually turned into Art Shell." LOL
Please, somebody just fire Romeo Crennel, Marv Lewis, Rod Marinelli, and Matt Millen. They make the league look bad.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 15, 2008, 04:21:20 PM
Great quote from Bill Simmons on ESPN.com: "Romeo Crennel stopped making the Art Shell face, and actually turned into Art Shell." LOL
Please, somebody just fire Romeo Crennel, Marv Lewis, Rod Marinelli, and Matt Millen. They make the league look bad.
No kidding, not only did Rome Crennel look like a pile of hot garbage last night, but he was about as helpful as one too. What a disgrace to human beings everywhere.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2008, 05:56:24 PM
Romeo Crennel has no idea how to manage clock. Complete misuse of time outs at the end of both halves cost the Browns that game.
Your a correct sir. I rarely watch the Browns, but I caught last nights game and I was SHOCKED how badly he managed the clock. On top of that, he didn't have the balls to go for it on 4th and 7 with 2 and a minute and a half left on the clock, down by a touchdown.
It had taken them 6 minutes to move the ball as far as they had on that drive and he decided to give the ball up with half that much time left in the game. It didn't help that Braylon Edwards dropped a pass (again!) on 3rd & 7 that would have given the Browns a first down. I had no problem with Crennel up until this, he may not have been the best coach in the league but the team had steadily improved over the course of his being there, but if he's going to make stupid mistakes like that I think it's time for a change.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: nickmitch on September 15, 2008, 06:20:42 PM
This week has left me upset. The Saints (almost literally) dropped the ball right at the end.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 15, 2008, 10:36:56 PM
Matt Ryan looked terrible at the start of the Bucs game, but he hung in there and almost brought them back in the second half. Man did he take a beating, though...the Bucs were laying a lot of after-the-play cheap shots on him too.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 16, 2008, 10:02:50 AM
Matt Ryan looked terrible at the start of the Bucs game, but he hung in there and almost brought them back in the second half. Man did he take a beating, though...the Bucs were laying a lot of after-the-play cheap shots on him too.
If they try to do that to ole "Neckbeard" this Sunday, Olin Kreutz will bite their arms off and spit them back in John Gruden's face!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Yoshidious on September 16, 2008, 10:49:01 AM
If they try to do that to ole "Neckbeard" this Sunday, Olin Kreutz will bite their arms off and spit them back in John Gruden's face!
Not if Fred Mller's jaw gets in the way first (sorry, couldn't help myself since Miller is back with the Bears now :))
I do give the Panthers credit for coming back, but the Bears gave that game away on Sunday--or more specifically Greg Olsen gave the game away; 2 receptions for the game, 2 fumbles: one that took the Bears out of scoring position, the other putting the Panthers immediately in scoring position. How's that for batting 1.000? Unbelievably bad. Here's a great stat that shows how badly the Panthers were dominated early in the game: in the first half, they had more penalty yards assessed against them than total offensive yards (47)--they literally went backwards for half a game.
The Philly v Dallas game last night was great fun to watch, but it leaves me very sceptical of Dallas' status as the clear frontrunner in the NFC. Playing at home, Dallas' defense scarcely did a better job of stopping the Eagles offense (still without their two nominal starting receivers) than did the abysmal Rams on the road. That is not remotely in the neighbourhood of championship-calibre D, and if they don't improve between now and the end of the season, they could be set up for another post-season disappointment. How they play against the potent-looking GB offense next Sunday night will be fascinating.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: vudu on September 16, 2008, 02:14:26 PM
Did the Bears win?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 16, 2008, 03:34:13 PM
If they try to do that to ole "Neckbeard" this Sunday, Olin Kreutz will bite their arms off and spit them back in John Gruden's face!
Not if Fred Mller's jaw gets in the way first (sorry, couldn't help myself since Miller is back with the Bears now :))
I do give the Panthers credit for coming back, but the Bears gave that game away on Sunday--or more specifically Greg Olsen gave the game away; 2 receptions for the game, 2 fumbles: one that took the Bears out of scoring position, the other putting the Panthers immediately in scoring position. How's that for batting 1.000? Unbelievably bad. Here's a great stat that shows how badly the Panthers were dominated early in the game: in the first half, they had more penalty yards assessed against them than total offensive yards (47)--they literally went backwards for half a game.
The Philly v Dallas game last night was great fun to watch, but it leaves me very sceptical of Dallas' status as the clear frontrunner in the NFC. Playing at home, Dallas' defense scarcely did a better job of stopping the Eagles offense (still without their two nominal starting receivers) than did the abysmal Rams on the road. That is not remotely in the neighbourhood of championship-calibre D, and if they don't improve between now and the end of the season, they could be set up for another post-season disappointment. How they play against the potent-looking GB offense next Sunday night will be fascinating.
Yeah, I was shocked by Olsen's fumbles, I really wanted to see him get more involved this year like the Bronco's use Tony Sheffler. I would also blame the loss on special teams blocking from the back side (3 flags), and Orton's inability to throw the ball remotely accurate over 15 yards. A real shame as Da Bears had this one in the bag in the 3rd quarter.
I totally agree about last nights game, tons of fireworks, but each teams D leaves a lot of questions in terms of going deep in the playoffs.
How about DeSean Jackson letting Leon Lett off the hook!!? (Oops, probably shouldn't have brought that game up around Greg) ;)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 16, 2008, 04:03:08 PM
The most ironic part is that both Dallas and Philly upgraded their secondary in the offseason (Adam Jones, Asante Samuel, etc.). They got lit up.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 16, 2008, 04:17:23 PM
Very true.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 20, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
If the Falcons can't beat KC in Atlanta with Thigpen at QB, they might as well call it a season.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on September 21, 2008, 12:11:30 AM
If the Falcons can't beat KC in Atlanta with Thigpen at QB, they might as well call it a season.
Who knows, Thigpen may be the next Tom Brady... But in any case, I'll be rooting for them, I love to see KC suffer (I'll also picked ATL to win this one in my Pro Picks league, I was 11/15 last week)!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 21, 2008, 04:52:27 PM
Atlanta KILLED them. You really have to watch the KC offense in action to realize how horrible they are. They actually made some noise at the end of the first/start of the second half, but by then they were already down by 24 points. And that 4th-and-goal stand by Atlanta made them look like little beeyotches.
I think this season is the Herm Edwards farewell tour.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Yoshidious on September 21, 2008, 06:00:23 PM
Speaking of teams getting killed, how about the Patriots being victimised by Miami in Foxboro? In yardage they were outgained by a ratio bigger than 2:1, and to rub salt in the wounds they let big-mouthed Joey Porter get three sacks on them.
Obviously the absence of Brady and Maroney on offense hurts the Pats, but it's hard to believe that was a Belichick coached defense out there getting gashed by the Miami frickin Dolphins. If you're a Pats fan, you must be extremely disappointed in such a total collapse of the team at home against a division rival. Don't discount the chance of Belichick setting things right, but they are in more trouble than I had thought without Brady to paper-over their defensive deficiencies.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 21, 2008, 06:54:11 PM
I totally agree. That defense looked awful. To anybody that had Ronnie Brown in their fantasy league, you hit the jackpot this week.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on September 21, 2008, 11:21:08 PM
Damn it. My saints are 1-3!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on September 22, 2008, 12:50:31 AM
Speaking of teams getting killed, how about the Patriots being victimised by Miami in Foxboro? In yardage they were outgained by a ratio bigger than 2:1, and to rub salt in the wounds they let big-mouthed Joey Porter get three sacks on them.
Obviously the absence of Brady and Maroney on offense hurts the Pats, but it's hard to believe that was a Belichick coached defense out there getting gashed by the Miami frickin Dolphins. If you're a Pats fan, you must be extremely disappointed in such a total collapse of the team at home against a division rival. Don't discount the chance of Belichick setting things right, but they are in more trouble than I had thought without Brady to paper-over their defensive deficiencies.
On the bright side, it just may prove that Brady was more than a product of the "Belichick system".....
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 22, 2008, 03:47:36 AM
I may not have been wrong when I talked about the Browns having the number 1 pick. At least this means we'll see Brady Quinn sooner.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 04, 2008, 08:36:05 PM
Anyone else happy that Kiffin is finally axed? I was so sick of the endless speculation and watching Kiffin openly discuss the issue w/ reporters like a little baby. The man should have told them to "piss off" and he probably could have saved his job, as well as his career (or at the very least, his severance).
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 04, 2008, 11:57:20 PM
I don't even know what opinion to have of the Raiders any more. That organization is such a total mess. Al Davis is a nutjob. They've had five coaches in seven years, I believe. That's terrible.
I think Atlanta is going to upset Green Bay this week. Turner is going to run all over them.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 05, 2008, 12:12:18 PM
I don't even know what opinion to have of the Raiders any more. That organization is such a total mess. Al Davis is a nutjob. They've had five coaches in seven years, I believe. That's terrible.
I think Atlanta is going to upset Green Bay this week. Turner is going to run all over them.
I think so as well, I'm just not convinced Rodgers will be able to play injured as well as that one guy who used to play their last year. So yeah, I picked Atlanta to win in my Pro Picks this week.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2008, 06:32:43 PM
Looks like that pick paid off, D. This just in: if you're crappy against the run, there's a definite chance that the Falcons can beat you.
That Matt Ryan end zone pickoff had me cursing like a mofo, though. However, unlike past years, the Falcons offense can now do novel things like running, passing, and scoring.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 05, 2008, 09:47:53 PM
Looks like that pick paid off, D. This just in: if you're crappy against the run, there's a definite chance that the Falcons can beat you.
That Matt Ryan end zone pickoff had me cursing like a mofo, though. However, unlike past years, the Falcons offense can now do novel things like running, passing, and scoring.
Oh yeah, thank you Matt Ryan and thank you Turner! Now my Bears are back in first place, and slowly helping to cure the Cubs playoff hangover!
A great day all around in the NFL for my teams. I actually went to the Broncos v Bucaneers game today, and it was great to see the Broncos D finally pull in a W for the time. On top of that, Miami some how managed to hold San Diego to 10 points for the win!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2008, 10:49:05 PM
Yeah, what got into Denver? I guess they got tired of allowing 35 points a game.
As for San Diego, you know the story. They'll go 9-2 the rest of the way, finish 11-5 and make the AFC wild card, then lose in the second round. And then everybody will wonder what went wrong, and lament the fact that San Diego has so much talent but just can't seem to put it together. Except this time I think the twist will be that they'll fire Norv Turner and put a real coach in charge (i.e. Bill Cowher).
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 06, 2008, 06:36:16 PM
No, the Chargers can't have Cowher, the Browns need him more!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: nickmitch on October 06, 2008, 09:24:02 PM
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Yeah, they shouldn't have left that one in the hands of their kicker, Jon Lovitz. On top of that, the pass interference to Berrian on 3rd down was absolutely retarded. Those two CB's should be heavily chastised this week at practice. I've watched Berrian on the Bears for a few years, and odds are, he's going to miss that ball, especially after making his one catch to score a TD. They just had to get close and yell "Don't miss it" and the Saints would have avoided the last second FG.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: nickmitch on October 07, 2008, 11:23:23 AM
DAMMIT, GRAMATICA!!!
Get your act together. Stupid groin injuries.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 07, 2008, 11:29:42 PM
The Saints really need to grab a defense. They seem to allow 30+ points in every game. They're lucky they have a stacked offense or they'd be getting crushed. Their starting cornerback, Tracy Porter, sustained a season-ending injury on that Berrian touchdown too:
Saints and Chargers = biggest disappointments so far (although I can't say I'm surprised by the Chargers any more).
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on October 07, 2008, 11:34:03 PM
I agree.....and a new kicker as well.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 08, 2008, 07:42:41 PM
Wahooo! Fox has the CHI v ATL game on in Denver this Sun!
I really wish the best for the Falcons this season Silks, I really do, but this Sunday my hope is at least seven sacks to welcome in the new rookie, while Turner becomes just another victim of Tillmans famous ball punch!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 08, 2008, 08:19:35 PM
Hahaha. My prediction is for Chicago to win, for the simple fact that they are really good against the run. To beat the Falcons right now, all you really have to do is shut down their running game. Chicago should be a good test to see what they've learned from the Tampa Bay loss, since Chicago and Tampa Bay are similarly hard-nosed defensive teams. It should be interesting.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2008, 12:33:37 PM
Yeah, this game is definitely contingent on Chicago stopping the run. They did a great job last year of holding Turner and LT to just 77 yards rushing in week one, but just a few weeks later they were totally stomped by Peterson, and Taylor for a whopping 311 yards! To say the least, they certainly lacked consistency in 2007.
That said, I can still see this going either way since the Bears haven't had three wins in a row since December of 06'. Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 12, 2008, 05:01:09 PM
Oh, it was interesting, to say the least.
This game caused the following email chain to Greg:
[Chicago scores to go up 20-19 with 11 seconds left] "Worst Falcons loss ever...they totally dominated Chicago only to lose on an Elam missed field goal" [Atlanta kicks game-winning field goal as clock expires] "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY F*****G GOD Falcons win WHAT JUST HAPPENED"
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 12, 2008, 07:12:19 PM
This game caused the following email chain to Greg:
[Chicago scores to go up 20-19 with 11 seconds left] "Worst Falcons loss ever...they totally dominated Chicago only to lose on an Elam missed field goal" [Atlanta kicks game-winning field goal as clock expires] "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY F*****G GOD Falcons win WHAT JUST HAPPENED"
Uggg, so many things were disgusting in this game for Chi, I knew it was all over after Tommie Harris fumbled by himself.
Bottom line, the Bears were given a gift from Elam, and the coaching staff decided not to accept it, doing everything they could to give him another shot at the buzzer. Truly disgusting.
Congrats on the W though, Ryan earned it, played like a star!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 12, 2008, 11:26:50 PM
Yeah, Ryan played really well (first 300-yard game of his career). I couldn't believe that Harris self-induced fumble...what a joke.
That was a rage-inducing game for Bears and Falcons fans alike. I went from cautious optimism, to rage, to despair, to stunned disbelief, to joyous celebration.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 13, 2008, 01:57:02 AM
The Rams victory over the Redskins has given me hope for my Browns tomorrow night. I truly believe that maybe, just maybe, the Giants won't be able to cover the spread.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2008, 10:18:07 AM
Yeah, Ryan played really well (first 300-yard game of his career). I couldn't believe that Harris self-induced fumble...what a joke.
That was a rage-inducing game for Bears and Falcons fans alike. I went from cautious optimism, to rage, to despair, to stunned disbelief, to joyous celebration.
Yeah, this loss really got to me like no other. To see Orton win the game at the last second only to have the coaching staff figure out a way to F it up at the end is beyond forgivable. Cover 2 when you KNOW they need to go out of bounds after a 20 yard pass? Bob Babich is a moron and the Bears D have been absolute garbage since he took over as the coordinator last year.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 13, 2008, 11:11:55 AM
At the end of the game, I actually felt bad for the Bears more than I felt good for the Falcons. It was so weird because they won the game with no drama whatsoever. After the Bears scored it was like, "NOOOOOO!!" And by the time I had finished screaming the Falcons had already won the game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2008, 12:01:10 PM
At the end of the game, I actually felt bad for the Bears more than I felt good for the Falcons. It was so weird because they won the game with no drama whatsoever. After the Bears scored it was like, "NOOOOOO!!" And by the time I had finished screaming the Falcons had already won the game.
Yeah, it was so hard to stomach b/c Bears fans felt so great to watch Orton and Davis come through in the clutch and celebrate with the joy of pee wee football players on sidelines afterward. Then, of no fault of their own, their Coaches and Secondary figured out a way to give Elam just one more shot to make up for that missed FG in just 6 seconds. In what would have been a great week to enjoy and reflect on that drive in the media for Orton, now became a forgotten memory. One writer's description of him after the game is pretty telling:
"He’s not a star, but he’s more than just a guy who won’t screw up. He has a far better feel for the game than Rex Grossman did.
You should have seen Orton in the locker room, sitting on a folding chair outside the shower, wrapped in a towel, wearing shower shoes, holding a drink in a plastic container. He just sat there, staring at the floor. For two, three minutes straight. Just staring. Not blinking.
Orton is at his best in the no-huddle when things are moving fast and coaches can’t overthink and get in his brain."
What a waste.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on October 13, 2008, 03:12:28 PM
Purdue quaterbacks FTW!
I'm don't usually praise injuries, but because Tom Brady is out for the season, it's making Drew Brees look soooooo much better. His QB rating is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 13, 2008, 05:19:18 PM
I read that article. It's interesting reading those columns in the Chicago media, being on the winning side. Last year those same types of hopeless, bitter columns were being written in the Atlanta papers about the Falcons. I know exactly how it feels.
Lovie Smith and Babich suck. They basically have no answer for the idiotic squib kick ("I thought it was a safe play" - Smith) and horrible pass coverage ("It was a bad call" - Babich). It burns so bad when you have zero faith in your team's coaching staff.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2008, 06:42:36 PM
Lovie Smith and Babich suck. They basically have no answer for the idiotic squib kick ("I thought it was a safe play" - Smith) and horrible pass coverage ("It was a bad call" - Babich). It burns so bad when you have zero faith in your team's coaching staff.
No kidding. Lovie Smith is a nice guy and all, but I just don't see him as the head coach type. I swear, every time they show him on the sideline he has a look of relaxed confusion. Does he even talk to the other coaches with that headset or does his contract allow him to pump in Miles Davis instead?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 13, 2008, 08:08:23 PM
Hahaha. It's so true though. Every time they showed him during the Atlanta game he had this look on his face like, "Wait...what just happened there?"
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2008, 08:27:40 PM
Hahaha. It's so true though. Every time they showed him during the Atlanta game he had this look on his face like, "Wait...what just happened there?"
Like, "Does it really make sense to challenge that Tommie fumbled all by himself, I mean, gosh, he was lying there all by himself.....hmmm...oh well, here goes..."
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 13, 2008, 11:41:55 PM
Now THAT was the kind of Browns team that I was expecting this season.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2008, 11:58:24 PM
Now THAT was the kind of Browns team that I was expecting this season.
Oh SCHNAP! I knew I should have picked them this week, they were due.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 14, 2008, 12:41:56 AM
Of course I finally benched Braylon Edwards on my fantasy team, just in time for him to put up close to 30 points.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 17, 2008, 07:37:02 PM
Hey Greg, long time no football chat!
Just thought you'd be pleased to hear I'm putting my faith in Trent Edwards this week on my Fantasy Team. My current QB Romeo has a broken pinky, and I'm not so sure how well he'll do if he DOES play, and my back up, Gerrad, has the week off. Considering he's up against the San Diego D, the pickins are definitely ripe for BIG plays and few interceptions. I mean, we're talking about the defense that allowed Denver to win on a two point conversion when they were still ahead!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: bosshogx on October 18, 2008, 08:52:24 AM
Cool, a football thread. I'm a 49ers fan trapped on the south east coast. Therefore, I only get to watch Falcons, Jags, and Panthers games locally. Garbage.
I will say that I'm very interested in watching Matt Ryan's progress and hope he continues to do well. I say this not because I'm a Falcons fan, but I was disgusted with the city of Atlanta's support of Michael Vick in those 'town hall' style discussions on ESPN last year. Seriously people? You actually have his back on that whole dog fighting business? It made me embarrassed to live in the same state as those ignorant people. Fortunately, Matt Ryan has performed well thus far and should help everyone forget the lowly and despicable Michael Vick.
Yeah, so all that being said, go Niners! Let's beat those G-Men this week. We can still be 12-4! w00t!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 18, 2008, 03:51:28 PM
I will say that I'm very interested in watching Matt Ryan's progress and hope he continues to do well. I say this not because I'm a Falcons fan, but I was disgusted with the city of Atlanta's support of Michael Vick in those 'town hall' style discussions on ESPN last year. Seriously people? You actually have his back on that whole dog fighting business? It made me embarrassed to live in the same state as those ignorant people. Fortunately, Matt Ryan has performed well thus far and should help everyone forget the lowly and despicable Michael Vick.
Amen. As an Atlanta resident I found it downright embarrassing how many people rooted for Vick. I'd go to Falcons games and people would be wearing t-shirts with a "7" on the front and "Vicktim" on the back. It made me want to vomit. I mean, people actually thought he got screwed over by "the man" or "the system". It was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 18, 2008, 04:03:55 PM
One place he won't be going back to play is Seattle. There are literally more dogs in that city than children.
It'll be interesting to see what happens down the road.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 18, 2008, 04:37:14 PM
Well, Arthur Blank has said that he thinks Vick should be let back into the NFL (though not with Atlanta, who will surely hold on to his rights until they can trade him away for a first or second-round pick). Honestly, as much as I don't like the guy and think that what he did was terrible, he's "paying his debt" and should be allowed to earn a living when he comes out.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Yoshidious on October 18, 2008, 05:40:44 PM
My absence from this thread is somewhat related to the Bills performance in Arizona, which was one of the single worst defensive performances I've seen the Bills put in during 18+ seasons as a fan. It left a pretty damn sour taste in my mouth. If you hear an enormous scream coming from half a world away on Sunday, you'll know that Phillip Rivers moved the ball up and down the field agaisnt the Bills without throwing the ball more than 15 yards down the field a single time just like Warner did.
I'm hopeful that the Bills can exploit the poor SD pass defense with Lee Evans and the return of Roscoe Parrish, but we need to start running the ball better early in games to take control and avoid relying on late rallies. I'm very confident in Lynch and Jackson as ball carriers, but the offensive line hasn't come together yet thanks to Peters' pointless offseason holdout. On the defensive side, we may be missing two of our CBs so preventing the big play will be a concern. I'm not so worried about the Chargers' running game, but we'll need to be able to contain it without bringing extra guys into the box given our depleted secondary. Given that we're coming off the bye and it's being played in Orchard Park, this is the kind of game that the Bills should win if we're going to be a playoff team.
I'm looking for the Bears to win without too much difficulty against the Vikings this week. The Vikings' offense is playing horridly right now: 1.5+yards carry against the Saints D, 10 offensive points scored against the Lions in the Metrodome - urgh. So look for the Vikings to run into a brick wall for much of the game trying to get the run game going, and if they lose the turnover battle they're completely dead in the water. Also, Orton is rounding into good form and should be able to exploit the Vikings' still-shaky pass defense as long as Jared Allen doesn't terrorise John St. Clair on the outside.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 18, 2008, 05:54:04 PM
My absence from this thread is somewhat related to the Bills performance in Arizona, which was one of the single worst defensive performances I've seen the Bills put in during 18+ seasons as a fan. It left a pretty damn sour taste in my mouth. If you hear an enormous scream coming from half a world away on Sunday, you'll know that Phillip Rivers moved the ball up and down the field agaisnt the Bills without throwing the ball more than 15 yards down the field a single time just like Warner did.
I can verify that Greg was indeed heated after this loss. His rage, even in email, was palpable.
I'm hopeful that the Bills can exploit the poor SD pass defense with Lee Evans and the return of Roscoe Parrish, but we need to start running the ball better early in games to take control and avoid relying on late rallies. I'm very confident in Lynch and Jackson as ball carriers, but the offensive line hasn't come together yet thanks to Peters' pointless offseason holdout. On the defensive side, we may be missing two of our CBs so preventing the big play will be a concern. I'm not so worried about the Chargers' running game, but we'll need to be able to contain it without bringing extra guys into the box given our depleted secondary. Given that we're coming off the bye and it's being played in Orchard Park, this is the kind of game that the Bills should win if we're going to be a playoff team.
Agreed. It should be an interesting contest because both of these teams need a win, for different reasons.
I'm looking for the Bears to win without too much difficulty against the Vikings this week. The Vikings' offense is playing horridly right now: 1.5+yards carry against the Saints D, 10 offensive points scored against the Lions in the Metrodome - urgh. So look for the Vikings to run into a brick wall for much of the game trying to get the run game going, and if they lose the turnover battle they're completely dead in the water. Also, Orton is rounding into good form and should be able to exploit the Vikings' still-shaky pass defense as long as Jared Allen doesn't terrorise John St. Clair on the outside.
I think D_Average's response to this would be, "Yes, but always remember that Lovie Smith is still the Bears coach". BTW, I will henceforth refer to Lovie Smith as "Mr. Squib-Kick".
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 18, 2008, 11:20:19 PM
I'm looking for the Bears to win without too much difficulty against the Vikings this week. The Vikings' offense is playing horridly right now: 1.5+yards carry against the Saints D, 10 offensive points scored against the Lions in the Metrodome - urgh. So look for the Vikings to run into a brick wall for much of the game trying to get the run game going, and if they lose the turnover battle they're completely dead in the water. Also, Orton is rounding into good form and should be able to exploit the Vikings' still-shaky pass defense as long as Jared Allen doesn't terrorise John St. Clair on the outside.
I think D_Average's response to this would be, "Yes, but always remember that Lovie Smith is still the Bears coach". BTW, I will henceforth refer to Lovie Smith as "Mr. Squib-Kick".
Exactly. And don't forget Babich at the helm as the D Cordinator. Given that he made no adjustments to the Cover 2 after the first half, nor the last play after another half of Ryan dominance, I'm starting to believe the man has a serious learning disability.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 19, 2008, 06:25:18 PM
Wow, the Bears D ALMOST figured out a way to let the Vikings back in after Kyle Orton and the Special Teams threw up 48 points. I'm going to have a heart attack if this crap keeps up much longer.
In other good news, BUF stomped SD and my QB replacement for Romeo threw up 261 yards with one TD, waahooo!!!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 19, 2008, 08:13:59 PM
WTF, is this bizarro world? The Bears were supposed to be the team with an amazing defense and Godawful offense. This year they're the polar opposite, but still giving their fans heart attacks in the same "Oh my God, I just know they're going to screw this up" manner.
Wow, did Brad Johnson stink it up out there, or what?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 19, 2008, 09:16:28 PM
The Browns losing by 3 to the Redskins would have felt a lot better before what happened to both those teams last week.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: bosshogx on October 20, 2008, 05:49:39 PM
It looks like ESPN is reporting that Nolan will be fired as the Niners head coach following the Seattle game, with Mike Singletary filling in for the remainder of the season. Not too surprising to be honest. He's is his fourth year and the team hasn't changed much at all.
The worst part is that we actually have some talented players (Gore, Willis, Lawson, and Clements) that might leave us by the way we are being coached. Man, I hope not. Hopefully the team will pay Mike Holgren to take the reins and make us a contender again.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 20, 2008, 06:01:52 PM
Enjoy! Mike Singletary is the man!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 20, 2008, 06:57:32 PM
Don't forget that Singletary has recently been considered for head coaching jobs. Atlanta interviewed him, but the reported knock on him was lack of head-coaching experience. This looks like it may be his golden opportunity.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 20, 2008, 07:37:04 PM
It looks like ESPN is reporting that Nolan will be fired as the Niners head coach following the Seattle game, with Mike Singletary filling in for the remainder of the season. Not too surprising to be honest. He's is his fourth year and the team hasn't changed much at all.
The worst part is that we actually have some talented players (Gore, Willis, Lawson, and Clements) that might leave us by the way we are being coached. Man, I hope not. Hopefully the team will pay Mike Holgren to take the reins and make us a contender again.
They beat the Seahawks though!
Oh wait nevermind.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: bosshogx on October 20, 2008, 10:31:45 PM
Looks like they wasted no time in making that call. Looks like Singletary is the new HNIC in San Fransisco. Hopefully this will cause a St. Louis like revival in the team. *crossing fingers*
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 21, 2008, 12:30:36 PM
The key with Singletary is that, from what I've heard, players like to play for him. On the flip side, I'm sure many of the Niners players thought that Mike Nolan was a jerk. Just the fact that he wore suits on the sidelines probably made most of his players gag.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 21, 2008, 01:19:14 PM
The key with Singletary is that, from what I've heard, players like to play for him. On the flip side, I'm sure many of the Niners players thought that Mike Nolan was a jerk. Just the fact that he wore suits on the sidelines probably made most of his players gag.
Seriously. Suits are a relic from another age, time to step up to 2008 Nolan! (http://www.cultureby.com/trilogy/images/2007/11/02/bill_belichick.jpg)(http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/davis0224.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on October 22, 2008, 04:38:41 PM
Ugh......
Saints got there asses handed to em'......
Oh well....at least UEFA is on ESPN. That makes me up.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 22, 2008, 06:28:19 PM
I was listening to ESPN radio yesterday (Torrico and Van Pelt), and they both picked Atlanta and New Orleans to miss the playoffs.
<loads shotgun, drives towards ESPN offices>
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 27, 2008, 09:36:38 AM
Hey Greg, did you make it to the Saints game? I have no idea how far you are from London, but it looks like the NFL put on a decent show this year, not too shabby. I was just glad to see SD come up short again. 8)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 27, 2008, 11:25:16 AM
The Browns won, the Steelers lost, and I jumped into first place in my fantasy league. The only way this week could have been better is if the Ravens had lost too.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on October 27, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
Hey Greg, did you make it to the Saints game? I have no idea how far you are from London, but it looks like the NFL put on a decent show this year, not too shabby. I was just glad to see SD come up short again. 8)
As was I. I use to rep SD when Breeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss was QBing, but now it's all about the Saints.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 02, 2008, 07:49:52 PM
I hope Atlanta enjoyed their bye week vs. Oakland.
I love the spin that the Oakland coaching staff puts on JaMarcus Russell. They told Fox that they "keep the offense simple" so that Russell doesn't "overthink and get lost in the details".
Hint: if your QB gets "lost in the details" when he's playing a position that is 100% detail-oriented, you drafted the wrong guy. That usually means "He was a better athlete than everybody else in college so he could win without really learning the playbook, and now that he's in the NFL he lacks the discipline to do so.". SEE ALSO Young, Vince and Vick, Michael.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: bosshogx on November 03, 2008, 04:12:01 PM
My Niners beat the Bye this week 35-17! It wasn't as close as the score would indicate. The Niners were up 35-7 with six minutes left to go. Then we went into a prevent defense and gave up large chunks of yards in exchange for time off the clock. Of course, who would have guessed that JTO would fumble on a kneel down which allowed the Bye to kick a field goal. Good overall games from Willis, Gore, and the Offensive Line giving Shaun Hill time to throw against the porous Bye defense.
Let's keep that momentum going into Arizona! :P
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 03, 2008, 04:16:55 PM
My Niners beat the Bye this week 35-17! It wasn't as close as the score would indicate. The Niners were up 35-7 with six minutes left to go. Then we went into a prevent defense and gave up large chunks of yards in exchange for time off the clock. Of course, who would have guessed that JTO would fumble on a kneel down which allowed the Bye to kick a field goal. Good overall games from Willis, Gore, and the Offensive Line giving Shaun Hill time to throw against the porous Bye defense.
Let's keep that momentum going into Arizona! :P
And Singletary didn't even have to pull his pants down!!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 03, 2008, 04:31:21 PM
Doesn't NO play SF next week?
Haha.......that should be a blowout.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 03, 2008, 04:59:11 PM
Not so fast, I wouldn't put it past Samurai Mike to run out on the field and deliver a sack to Brees if his D line is under performing.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 03, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
The Browns are finally giving Brady Quinn his chance, he's starting Thursday against the Broncos, which just happens to be the game I decided to go to this year.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 03, 2008, 10:58:00 PM
Not so fast, I wouldn't put it past Samurai Mike to run out on the field and deliver a sack to Brees if his D line is under performing.
I'd like to see him try.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 07, 2008, 03:27:10 AM
Well the Browns lost because the defense started playing as badly as they were supposed to play this season but Quinn looked really good. He's the future of the franchise and after seeing him play tonight I'm very confident in that future.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 07, 2008, 03:39:28 AM
The future of the browns?!
Isn't that similar to the future of the cubs?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 07, 2008, 04:11:26 AM
Yeah, both teams are due for a championship and have the talent to get one if they stop screwing up so much.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 07, 2008, 09:43:03 AM
Though I was happy to see the Broncos win, I blame the Browns coach for the loss. Not having a running back out there on 4th and 1 made it pretty obvious what play they would run.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 07, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
I think the Browns should trade Derek Brown to Oakland for JaMarcus Russell.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 07, 2008, 06:45:58 PM
Russell needs to get a good coach or get to a good team. Man, he's being totally wasted.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 07, 2008, 08:28:26 PM
Yeah, both teams are due for a championship and have the talent to get one if they stop screwing up so much.
More like both teams continually **** on their fan base and those fans need to relocate their faith.
Except for maybe the Packers the Browns have the best fans in the NFL and it's going to take more than half a century of losing to get us to abandon that team.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 08, 2008, 08:03:25 AM
Best fans are the dumb ones. I don't understand how fan bases are ridiculed for not putting money into something unsuccessful. You can call me fair weather but I"m not paying these ungodly fees to go to a sporting event for a team that sucks. I'm not buying their jerseys and I'm putting any money towards support the junk they put on the field. They give me a competitive team and an affordable way to support them and I'll help out. I don't get how paying a hundred dollars plus parking/food/drinks to see a sucky team makes you a good anything, except waster of money.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 08, 2008, 12:37:25 PM
I hate fair weather fans. Either be a fan through both good times and bad or don't be one at all.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 08, 2008, 03:32:40 PM
I was a Steelers fan for the longest time (like 7 years), then they won a SuperBowl. After that year I switch alliances to the Colts, then they won a SuperBowl. I've always been a Drew Brees fan, so I became a Saints fan.
Why would I switch alliances when the team is at the top of their game? I have no idea.
I don't do that with Soccer or any other sport for that matter....even college football.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 08, 2008, 05:01:39 PM
I've always been a Falcons fan, and I had season tickets until this season. After a while I realized that it was a waste of money because whether they were amazing or horrible, I still paid the same (if not more) for my tickets. I finally said "enough" and just watch every game on TV now. If I really want to see a game live, I'll grab some tickets off of StubHub or something.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 08, 2008, 06:40:22 PM
I don't do that with Soccer or any other sport for that matter....even college football.
?? What the hell is "soccer"?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 08, 2008, 06:56:19 PM
Yes, yes I know....I call it football everywhere else I go except for when I'm in the US.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: vudu on November 09, 2008, 10:33:57 AM
I think you missed the joke.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 09, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
hardcore true fans of everything in life care too much about it. But I'm not anyone to tell people how to toss their money. Have fun sitting in 20 degree weather drinking eight dollar beer and watching your team throw away games. It's entertainment. It's the equivalent of paying $60 every week to play Big Beach Sports. Go Go Romeo. Fairweather fans just have better things to do.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 09, 2008, 04:44:13 PM
That Falcons win vs. the Saints was really impressive. I'm not at the point yet where I feel confident in my team; I'm still in that "they're the Falcons, the bottom will drop out eventually, just you wait" mode that protects me from being emotionally crushed, but damn they look good. Thoughts:
1) The Falcons secondary is very well-coached. I don't know if it's Mike Smith or Brian VanGorder who should get the credit, but I don't think another secondary in the NFL does more with less. Chevis Jackson, Chris Houston, Erik Coleman, Curtis Lofton...do you know any of those names? Lawyer Milloy is the only high-profile guy out there. It really makes me laugh when I watch the Cowboys secondary, which has probably ten times the payroll but a tenth of the production.
2) LOL @ Drew Brees losing by 14 (should have been 21 if not for the Hail Mary touchdown with :00 left on the clock), throwing three picks, yet still passing for 420 yards. Hey, his team is under .500 and probably won't make the playoffs, but at least he still has a shot at Marino's record.
3) LOL @ Drew Brees screaming at Jeremy Shockey on the sidelines (probably for screwing up his routes), and another LOL @ Jeremy Shockey riding the pine late in the 4th Quarter while his backup, Billy Miller, is out on the field making money catches during the most crucial period in the game. I feel bad that the Saints traded for the guy. It's pretty obvious that his problems with the Giants had more to do with him than with the Giants.
4) Matt Ryan, again, was amazing. 134.0 passer rating? Bananas man, bananas. He's freakishly mistake-averse...I'm almost waiting for him to suck so I can execute my "Tortured Fan" routine that goes something like, "SEE? It's the Falcons, they really do suck!!! Why do I cheer for them?? Waaaaah", but it just doesn't happen. It's like he could just mail in a stat line each game that reads 16/23, 202 yards, 2 TD, and 0 INT and call it a day.
5) It's too bad Carolina has a bye week vs. Oakland today, otherwise the Falcons would be in an three-way tie for first place. Never in my wildest dreams did I think they'd be THIS good. ESPN has them ranked in the Top 10 of their Power Rankings, for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 09, 2008, 07:49:18 PM
Power rankings are all silly. Anyway, I knew Atlanta would be good this year simply because last year was a fluke. They weren't as bad as they played. They had an awful coach, no quarterback, and nothing to play for. No way were they going to be anywhere close to that bad this year. Speaking of Carolina though. that game was painful to watch. Surprised they won that game with Jake playing that poorly. A win is a win though. Hopefully they get it together for the Lions next week. Bills, they're becoming the Bills. Hopefully they can start to turn it around next week but it really really isn't looking good for them.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 09, 2008, 10:37:15 PM
Oh, Power Rankings are silly alright. However, they are a good gauge regarding the "expert" consensus on any team, and seeing as they all ranked Atlanta dead last prior to the season, they fact that they've now cracked the Top 10 is pretty freaking remarkable. They've done so well that the "experts" can't ignore them any more.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 10, 2008, 07:37:05 AM
True and all, I'm just so use to the experts being dead wrong I discount them completely. I enjoy listening to them. ESPN's podcasts humor me endlessly. But I just can't put any stock in them. Did you really think Atlanta was going to be anywhere near as bad as last year though? I guess as a Carolina fan I'm always paranoid about Atlanta, but I was just sold on last year being a desperate fluke. I thought a new coach and a real quarterback gave then four or five wins by themselves.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 10, 2008, 10:28:59 AM
I blame Chicago's loss entirely on Lovie, Mr. "Relaxed and Confused". He lives in a fantasy world where as long as you "stop the run" everything will be OK. Wrong. Bob Babich, and his secondary have been hemorrhaging for weeks, Lovie should have pimp slapped Bob long ago. On top of that, Rex should have been pulled mid way through the first quarter. It was apparent he was still a "mental midget" and he should have been pulled to set an example. Hanie certainly couldn't have done any worse. What a waste.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 10, 2008, 04:36:53 PM
The Saints........make me want to cry.
Drew Brees is playing great but can't finish.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 10, 2008, 08:55:39 PM
No, I didn't think Atlanta would be as bad as everybody was saying at all. In fact, I thought everybody was crazy. Sporting News had them at 1 win? I was like "You are idiots". It wasn't even logical. Last year their QB went to jail, their coach quit 13 games in, and they had the Unholy Trinity (Redman/Harrington/Leftwich) throwing the ball, and they STILL won 4 games. And then they upgrade their RB, upgrade their QB (even if he was a rookie), upgraded their coaching staff, and dumped every overpriced veteran and malcontent on the team, and you're telling me they'll be worse? Again, it always defied logic. I picked them to win 5 or 6 games, simply because they were a better team personnel-wise than they were last year.
D, I love your rants lately man. They're Greg Leahy-esque.
Brees is the man, but you can't throw 58 times in a game and expect to win. I felt bad, because all of those picks were because the Saints did NOTHING on the ground. Brees was pretty much thrown to the lions.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 11, 2008, 10:38:30 AM
Ouch! Anyone catch the end of last nights game? Hill could have literally taken a dump in the amount of time it took him and his boys to run down field and spike the ball. Wow.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 11, 2008, 06:15:26 PM
hahaha. that was a rough ending. I agree with the play calling though. They should've just had three plays called in rapid secession. We wouldn't be talking about this if Gore hadn't tripped. So close.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 11, 2008, 11:56:06 PM
LOL. That was the greatest **** up of all time.
Cardinals should have stomped them though. There were way too many flags.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 18, 2008, 10:05:17 AM
Man, I don't believe in curses, but its hard not to after yet another "wide and to the right".
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 21, 2008, 06:18:40 PM
I believe in possibly trying to throw the ball down the field. Maybe getting more than 3 yards once your last set of downs could help with that field position. No such thing as a curse, just one team not doing what they're suppose to do.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 24, 2008, 12:15:24 AM
Atlanta whut whut
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 24, 2008, 10:42:19 AM
One game back and tied for the wild card. Hell of a rebound season they're having!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 24, 2008, 11:32:42 AM
Saints play the packers tonight. Should be one of the best games of the season. I need to re-up and get some brewhahas.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 24, 2008, 12:33:42 PM
I hope the butt packers publicly shame themselves tonight, thus putting themselves behind the Bears where they belong.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 24, 2008, 08:19:41 PM
Ya, they whooped up on the bears. Pretty sad.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 25, 2008, 08:35:57 AM
Two interceptions in a row to David, AHAHAHAHAHA I LOVE IT!!!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 25, 2008, 10:03:22 AM
Sweet Jesus, it's like Drew Brees could trip and fall on his way out of the tunnel and have a 300-yard game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 25, 2008, 10:28:57 AM
Crennel benching Quinn killed any chance of him returning next year, and I say good riddance. As someone who hates the Steeelers as much as I do I can't believe I'm saying this, but bring on Bill Cowher!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on November 25, 2008, 11:58:02 AM
Yes, Yes....Drew Brees is the man. The Saints played very well last night. Now all we got to do is keep winning. We need to beat out the Panthers or Falcons. It's almost impossible but we can do it.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 25, 2008, 04:36:11 PM
You have one more crack at the Falcons. I have no idea who will win their next matchup...I've seen every kind of wild game you can imagine between them over the years. Every game is typically right down to the wire, no matter how each team is doing record-wise.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: MaleficentOgre on November 25, 2008, 07:26:59 PM
Atlanta is going to crush New Orleans. They're in the playoffs, they're going to win the division. Carolina is going to choke a few games near the end, but I think they'll go farther in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on January 03, 2009, 03:32:39 PM
Hell of a season everyone. My Bears and Broncos chocked to no suprise as both teams still aren't sure how to cover wide receivers! But congrats to Lindy and the Falcons! Its a great turnaround and I'll be rooting for them and Miami through the playoffs. But ultimately, I think its Indy's experience and Carolina's impressive offense that give us the final game with Carolina stomping Indy on the final stage.
Here's all of my predictions, I know its late, but anyone else want to toss theirs out there for the remaining games if you miss today's....
Round 1 Indianapolis (12-4) San Diego (8-8)
Baltimore (11-5) Miami (11-5)
Atlanta (11-5) Arizona (9-7)
Philadelphia (9-6-1) Minnesota (10-6)
Round 2 Indy Tennessee
Dolphins Pittsburgh
Falcons Carolina
Eagles N.Y. Giants
Round 3 Pittsburgh Indy
NY Carolina
The Big Game!! Carolina Indy
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 03, 2009, 07:52:21 PM
Well so far you're 0 for 1.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 03, 2009, 08:28:28 PM
BOO!
I'm routing for the cardinals now! And there is no way Atlanta will beat them.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: nickmitch on January 03, 2009, 11:06:21 PM
This Colts game is intense.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 04, 2009, 01:16:02 AM
Arizona can go to hell. What bugs me is that I know they'll get waxed by they Giants/Panthers, whereas the Falcons probably would have given either one of those teams a run for their money. You can't make the idiotic turnovers like the Falcons did and expect to win a playoff game though. That awful Michael Turner fumble that was returned for a TD made me want to vomit.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 04, 2009, 05:06:50 AM
Arizona can go to hell. What bugs me is that I know they'll get waxed by they Giants/Panthers, whereas the Falcons probably would have given either one of those teams a run for their money. You can't make the idiotic turnovers like the Falcons did and expect to win a playoff game though. That awful Michael Turner fumble that was returned for a TD made me want to vomit.
Baby need a bottle?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 04, 2009, 01:01:18 PM
Nope, but baby will take another pass rusher, a defensive tackle, some more offensive linemen, a couple of cornerbacks, some younger, faster linebackers, and another money wide receiver. kthnxbai
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on January 04, 2009, 02:01:30 PM
Nope, but baby will take another pass rusher, a defensive tackle, some more offensive linemen, a couple of cornerbacks, some younger, faster linebackers, and another money wide receiver. kthnxbai
Nice.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on January 05, 2009, 09:55:44 AM
LOLZ, 1 for 4 now, good thing I'm not a gambling addict!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 18, 2009, 03:01:50 PM
GO CARDINALS!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHhahAHAHHAHASHASAHSdhalkhdaohw
24 - 6 at the half! Ridunkulous!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 18, 2009, 07:16:51 PM
I take it Cardinals are ahead.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 18, 2009, 07:42:57 PM
YUP!
Next up, SUPERBOWL!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 18, 2009, 08:58:57 PM
So they won.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 18, 2009, 09:20:31 PM
Ya, of course.
Made some money off that game too....
The AFC championship is going on right now on CBS.
EDIT:
CARDINALS vs. STEELERS
should one hell of a game
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 18, 2009, 11:00:42 PM
Kashogi Y. Stogi what day is the Super Bowl and what time and channel?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 18, 2009, 11:04:45 PM
I am so happy. BOTH teams who I wanted to win won today (I can't stand the Ravens). It always makes me happy to see a team that is beaten on by the press at the beginning of the playoffs, with some saying they don't deserve to be there, to make it all the way to the superbowl.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 18, 2009, 11:25:25 PM
Even if I don't follow the season I always make a point of seeing the Super Bowl. Maybe the Eagles can win it next year.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 19, 2009, 01:35:31 AM
The Cardinals have basically defied statistics to make the big game. Remember, they're a 9-7 team. That's just silly. But that's why they play the games, as they say.
I think Pittsburgh is going to beat them, though. Their defense is just stifling.
Anybody else think that Mike Tomlin looks like the NFL version of Omar Epps? I'm waiting for him to starting cutting it up on the turntables like in Juice.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 19, 2009, 01:40:44 AM
I haven't been keeping track of the teams Having no cable sucks so I'm not sure who to root for.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 19, 2009, 01:45:40 AM
The Cardinals have basically defied statistics to make the big game. Remember, they're a 9-7 team. That's just silly. But that's why they play the games, as they say.
I think Pittsburgh is going to beat them, though. Their defense is just stifling.
Anybody else think that Mike Tomlin looks like the NFL version of Omar Epps? I'm waiting for him to starting cutting it up on the turntables like in Juice.
Kind of like how the Falcons and Panthers were going to beat them right? ;)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 19, 2009, 01:47:42 AM
Amen, GP.
Still, I'd rather have everyone going in thinking they're going to lose. It worked last year with the Giants, right?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 19, 2009, 01:58:22 AM
I think it will be a good game. At least with this game I like both teams so I won't be horribly disappointed if the Cards lose.
I'll tell you one thing though, the Steelers better learn some diversity in their play calling. It was getting pretty pathetic towards the end because you knew it was going to be twice into the line and on third down they were going to throw. It became a joke when we were watching the game!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: AV on January 19, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
I think steelers will blow out the Cardinals by like 16 points. That doesn't sound like a blow out but the game will stay at that point for like 20 minutes and it will become boring, as Cardinals try all they can and can't get points on board.
I want the cardinals to win so Kurt Warner can retire and be happy, and the underdog Cardinals win first Super Bowl, but I doubt it will happen.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 19, 2009, 11:37:25 AM
I wonder what the odds are....
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on January 19, 2009, 12:04:54 PM
I'm calling Cardinals to win this one. Their offense is more explosive right now, and will only get better in the next 2 weeks as Bolden recovers.
Card: 37 Steel: 24
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 19, 2009, 12:32:26 PM
I think steelers will blow out the Cardinals by like 16 points. That doesn't sound like a blow out but the game will stay at that point for like 20 minutes and it will become boring, as Cardinals try all they can and can't get points on board.
I want the cardinals to win so Kurt Warner can retire and be happy, and the underdog Cardinals win first Super Bowl, but I doubt it will happen.
Thankyou Adolph for giving me hopes of a Cardinal win now!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 19, 2009, 01:17:51 PM
As if the way they have been playing isn't enough?!
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Renny on January 19, 2009, 02:22:43 PM
Go Stillers! One for the other thumb!
(Am I the only Yinzer here?)
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 19, 2009, 04:14:27 PM
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 19, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
Re-he-heaalllllllllly *strokes chin*
Interesting.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 19, 2009, 11:49:51 PM
As a Browns fan the AFC Championship being Pittsburgh and Baltimore was about as bad as things could get. I'd love to see the Cardinals cap off the miracle season with a win but I don't have much hope.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 19, 2009, 11:51:30 PM
I usually go with the underdog. So I am going with the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on January 20, 2009, 09:40:53 AM
I usually go with the team containing the least amount of douche bags. So I am going with the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 20, 2009, 10:09:26 AM
A fun bit of trivia: the line from Star Wars, "you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy", was originally written about the city of Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 20, 2009, 11:31:53 AM
My call: 34-20 Pittsburgh.
Arizona hasn't seen anything like the Pittsburgh defense. Philly is good (Dawkins especially), but man, Polomalu, Woodley, Harrison, those guys are beasts. I think Fitzgerald will be good for touchdown and probably 90 yards, but he won't go wild on them like he did Philly.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Renny on January 20, 2009, 02:29:59 PM
All the hatin' on P-burgh. As much as I want to see Fitzgerald get an early title, the Cardinals aren't gonna win this one.
And I'm going to let the douche bag comment slide, on account of Ben's overwhelming douche baggery.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on January 20, 2009, 02:39:36 PM
I might have to start a bookie...
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 31, 2009, 03:08:18 PM
What time and Channel does the Super Bowl start tomorrow?I need an answer before tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on January 31, 2009, 05:38:54 PM
Super Bowl XLIII Sun., Feb. 1 6 p.m. ET, NBC
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 31, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
Thanks D Average.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 06:18:59 PM
Ok game is starting. I won't be on much till after the game or at halftime.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 06:41:03 PM
Hmm there is going to be a challenge on the Steeler TD. I wonder what will be the result. Well the QB was short a yard. Steelers got 3 points out of the play.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 07:02:46 PM
Well the first quarter is done and it is 3-0. Steelers are winning.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 07:12:52 PM
Well its 10-0. Steelers are winning.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 07:23:21 PM
Well its 10-7 now and the Steelers are winning.That was an excellent catch by the Cardinals.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 07:57:44 PM
Wow that was a bad way for the cardinals to end the half. They should of took the 3 points to tie it. Its 17 to 7 at the half.Steelers are ahead.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 09:51:01 PM
Wow the 4th quarter is being dominated by the Cardinals.The Cardinals have the lead.23-20
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Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 09:54:55 PM
Wow the penalitys are the story of the game.They could be the swinging point for either team.
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Post by: King of Twitch on February 01, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
wow.. now they're within field goal kick range. gonna be close
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 10:12:27 PM
Darn it. Steelers won 27-23.Wow that was an exciting game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 01, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
why watch the superbowl when you can just come here and read maxi talking to himself all game. then you dont even have to leave the internet
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 10:22:56 PM
Ok some of my thoughts. If the Cardinals didn't stop that TD and it wasn't overturned.The steelers would of won without the extra TD. The penilties cost both teams alot but it cost the cardinals more. The steelers shut down the long ball and forced the cardinals to settle for short outside passes and the middle. The Cardinals played a great game with a few exceptions the Interception TD return was probably the play of the game.It was at the end of the half and it probably deflated the Cardinals some. If they took the Field Goal then they would of only had to get a field goal at the end.Great Game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 10:29:26 PM
why watch the superbowl when you can just come here and read maxi talking to himself all game. then you dont even have to leave the internet
I hope I wasn't the only one watching it. I know Zap was. Did anyone else watch it?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on February 01, 2009, 10:36:56 PM
I was shocked that there wasn't an official review of that "fumble" by the head referee. For such a game ending play I would have thought it would have gotten an in depth review.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 10:48:36 PM
Yeah they didn't take the time to review it.Typically they go to a commercial to review plays.That didn't happen there.Well the game was closer than what the experts said but close ones are always heartbreaking.
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Post by: nickmitch on February 01, 2009, 10:51:09 PM
That was a fantastic game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePerm on February 01, 2009, 10:57:01 PM
i watched it too, but i have to say last years game was better. However, that 100 yard run by #92 was fucking incredable
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 11:05:38 PM
Perm in my opinion that was the play of the game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 01, 2009, 11:34:45 PM
What did everyone think of the commercials?
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 01, 2009, 11:42:27 PM
Meh to the Super Bowl I watched Puppy Bowl V on Animal Planet which was on during the Stuper Bowl (http://animal.discovery.com/tv/puppy-bowl/puppy-bowl.html)
NOW THAT WAS AWESOME TO THE MAX!
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Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2009, 01:00:07 AM
Commercials sucked except for Hulu with Alec Baldwin.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 02, 2009, 01:32:46 AM
I didn't like any of the commericals.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: King of Twitch on February 02, 2009, 01:38:42 AM
Conan Obrien promotions were a little weird and there was some action thing where a guy is running from cars which was also odd, and when pepsi compared jack black to jim belushi.... blechh
but office was hilarious. great episode
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: ThePerm on February 02, 2009, 03:36:16 AM
I was shocked that there wasn't an official review of that "fumble" by the head referee. For such a game ending play I would have thought it would have gotten an in depth review.
Same here, its a silly rule, but it was technically "forward progress". Just like Tom Brady got at the end of the AFC championship game V the Raiders a few years ago. In all likelihood, they've wouldn't have scored with 5 seconds left, but they still should have been given the chance.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 03, 2009, 01:26:14 AM
I was shocked that there wasn't an official review of that "fumble" by the head referee. For such a game ending play I would have thought it would have gotten an in depth review.
Same here, its a silly rule, but it was technically "forward progress". Just like Tom Brady got at the end of the AFC championship game V the Raiders a few years ago. In all likelihood, they've wouldn't have scored with 5 seconds left, but they still should have been given the chance.
If it had been reversed then the personal foul on the Steeler player who took off his helmet would have pushed the ball to about the Steeler 30 yard line. Warner would throw up a jump ball in the end zone and having Larry Fitzgerald would increase the odds of that working by quite a bit. I don't think it should have been reversed though, I think it was a fumble, and that's coming from me, someone who would not be opposed to a nuclear first strike against the city of Pittsburgh.
I was shocked that there wasn't an official review of that "fumble" by the head referee. For such a game ending play I would have thought it would have gotten an in depth review.
Same here, its a silly rule, but it was technically "forward progress". Just like Tom Brady got at the end of the AFC championship game V the Raiders a few years ago. In all likelihood, they've wouldn't have scored with 5 seconds left, but they still should have been given the chance.
You can't review/challenge a play in the last two minutes of a half.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 08, 2009, 01:16:43 AM
You can go to the booth though.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on February 08, 2009, 01:25:35 AM
Steelers won anyways. People really don't like it when they win. :P
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on February 11, 2009, 10:33:19 AM
I was shocked that there wasn't an official review of that "fumble" by the head referee. For such a game ending play I would have thought it would have gotten an in depth review.
Same here, its a silly rule, but it was technically "forward progress". Just like Tom Brady got at the end of the AFC championship game V the Raiders a few years ago. In all likelihood, they've wouldn't have scored with 5 seconds left, but they still should have been given the chance.
You can't review/challenge a play in the last two minutes of a half.
The coaches can't, but it is the refs responsibility to review any close calls in the final 2 minutes. The simple fact is this, they dropped the ball on this one. They didn't rob the Cardinals of winning the super bowl, but they did rob them the opportunity to win it with one last play.
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Post by: Stogi on February 11, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Agreed. For being such a controversial play, they didn't even think to review it. That's what pissed me off......and losing my bet of course.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on March 24, 2009, 12:21:40 AM
Minor Bump
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Anyone find that they've been playing Madden MORE now that the season is over? I just can't get into the NBA or MLB.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 24, 2009, 07:18:42 AM
Since football season ended I've been focused on hockey, especially since my Flyers are a lot better of a team than the Browns.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 01:17:04 PM
Pshh
It's all about the MADNESS.
My team (Purdue) is in the sweet 16! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It's been so long since they were any good. Now they face UCONN. It's going to be a hell of a game.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on March 24, 2009, 02:59:47 PM
My team (Purdue) is in the sweet 16! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA It's been so long since they were any good. Now they face UCONN. It's going to be a hell of a game.
Meh. I just watch the last 5 min of any close game. If decent, but its not football. There's been talk at this year's meeting of extending the season to 18 games, that would be SWEET!!
Back to NCAA though, I got 14/16 correct for the Sweet Sixteen.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on April 02, 2009, 07:29:32 PM
SUPER BEARS SUPER BOWL SUPER BEARS SUPER BOWL!
That's right, by nothing short of a miracle, we got Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton and a few picks we would have surely wasted anyway (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/51357-chris-williams-injured-chicago-bears-familiar-with-first-round-let-downs). This will go down as one of the biggest blunders in NFL history. First Denver fires their hall of fame coach, and now they chase away their best QB since Elway. Oh the humanity.
I hope Orton does well though, at least I can still root for him as I live in Denver.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 02, 2009, 11:25:46 PM
My friend called me when it happened and said he's not a Broncos fan anymore. As a Browns fan, even one who wasn't alive for The Drive and The Fumble, I can't say this disappoints me, especially since I was afraid they'd trade away Quinn in a deal for Cutler and not even get Cutler.
Title: Re: Official 2008 NFL Football Season Discussion Thread
Post by: D_Average on April 02, 2009, 11:58:33 PM
My friend called me when it happened and said he's not a Broncos fan anymore.
Yeah, I've been watching a few of the blogs here in Denver and they're all filled with comments like that. Or people outright switching to becoming Bears fans. In a way I can't blame em, as the only reason I watched Denver these last two years was Cutler, he keeps things interesting.
And I don't blame you for wanting to keep Quinn, I see a lot of potential in that guy.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 03, 2009, 12:12:56 AM
My friend called me when it happened and said he's not a Broncos fan anymore.
Yeah, I've been watching a few of the blogs here in Denver and they're all filled with comments like that. Or people outright switching to becoming Bears fans. In a way I can't blame em, as the only reason I watched Denver these last two years was Cutler, he keeps things interesting.
And I don't blame you for wanting to keep Quinn, I see a lot of potential in that guy.
Yeah, he said he's a Bears fan now but I don't expect that to last. I was mainly concerned about the proposed deals that involved Quinn going to Denver, Cutler to Detroit and picks to the Browns. I think Cutler's got a great future but Derek Anderson's best days are behind him.
