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Title: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 06, 2008, 06:21:24 PM
Just a list and commentary on the various gun shells out there, particularly the SMG/rifle style shells. The pistol styles are weak, so I'm not gonna deal with them. I'd also like to hear who's got one, what games they use it with, and what you think about it.
Things I thought about include: - How's the spacing between the hand grips? - How does the main trigger feel? - Does it have the little A-notch/V-notch gun sights? - Does it let you hide the Nunchuck cord? - Does it look like ass? - Does the shell material cause any problems? - Does it have a gimmick, like unattaching the Nunchuck grip? - Does a game allow button customization? - Do a game's waggle gimmicks undermine the shell's usefullness? - How well/badly does line-of-sight firing work?
>> See how a couple of these shells work in Ghost Squad (live demo DivX videos at page bottom) (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/ghostsquad.html)
== The Definitive Wii Zapper Clone (SMG or Rifle Gun Shell) Review/Preview/Embarrassment List ==
Nintendo Wii Zapper (http://www.nintendo.com/wii/what/accessories/zapper) Many of you have this and already know it sucks. I'm sure you just wanted the bundled matoor Zelda spinoff title to make up for the loss of Tetra's Trackers.
Core Gamer Wii Blaster (http://gear.ign.com/articles/807/807718p1.html) One of the earlier shells available. Shotgun style is a neat look. No trigger extension. Ruins the machine gun illusion for some games. Looks awful.
Pega Combined Light Gun (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6478) Splits in 2 for gimmick pistol play and waggle accommodation. Grip spacing looks cramped and retarded. Doesn't hide cords at all.
Datel Wii Machine Gun (http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Machine-Gun__EF000559.aspx) Looks serious about its SMG grip style, with decent spacing. Doesn't hide cords. Not suitable for waggle.
Pebble Entertainment GUN (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-110-49-en-70-2gi4.html) Another serious SMG style, with decent spacing. Has a compartment to cleanly hide the Nunchuck cord. Not suitable for waggle. Stupid thing lacks the V-notch site at the back of the Remote.
Gunhazard Cyber wiigun (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2742) Another serious SMG style, with decent spacing. Cleanly hides the Nunchuck cord. Includes textured grips. Not suitable for waggle. Stupid thing includes a foregrip but omits the trigger extension altogether. (I plan to get this one for my Ghost Squading needs. I don't need the main B-trigger since I can fire with the Nunchuck, and I want to see how it plays without the on-screen reticule, so I want a shell that includes the notch-sights.) UPDATE: I did buy this, and I enjoy it. I'm convinced it provides the best submachine gun experience in Ghost Squad. Nunchuck cord and Wii Remote strap are completely hidden. Has no problem fitting Nunchucks covered with silicon sleeves, either.
CTA Digital Shot Gun (http://ctadigital.com/catalog.asp?menuid=Catalog&display=itemdetail&parentid=12&categoryid=81&groupid=81&id=2297) HO. LY. ****. I fail to see how games are even playable with this one (UPDATE: not the case anymore, but the prototype is still funny and tradeshow pictures can be found on the web). UPDATE: "Adding to the “coolness-factor” of its appearance is the aesthetic possibilities created by the inter-changeable barrel / magazine tube and stock. Take off the stock and sport the “sawed off” look ala Terminator 2 or remove the front barrel and you’ll have a compact blaster." OK that's much better. That makes this the official shell to use for THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD... OVERKILL?... only if the game isn't too demanding with the rate of fire. UPDATE: I did buy this, and I enjoy it. After some modification to the trigger's spring, it works well, tho not recommended for constant firing since it's not as responsive as a B-trigger or Z-trigger. Most comfortable when playing with a "relaxed" rate of fire, like using the unlockable shotguns in Ghost Squad. Aiming stability feels great thanks to the full stock you can press against your shoulder, unlike the "floating" (and tiring) submachine gun scheme. Buttons on the sides of the barrel are used to press C/Z on the Nunchuck. Nunchuck cord and Wii Remote strap are completely hidden.
Laser Sight Special Crossbow w/ safety arrow (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11459) CHEEZUS KRAIST. If you ever wanted to put on a red dress and play "Assignment Ada" in front of your wife, now you can.
CTA Digital Crossbow for Wii (http://ctadigital.com/catalog.asp?menuid=Catalog&display=itemdetail&parentid=12&categoryid=81&groupid=81&id=2319) The NEW standard in Wii lightgunbowshellthings. Just as useless as the official Wii Zapper, but with much greater aesthetic performance.
Logic3 Wii Sports Gun (http://www.logic3.com/details/?prod=340) SMG shell from a UK 3rd party manufacturer. Relatively rare product on the web compared to the countless shells pouring out of Asia. Has an interesting look at a glance and includes full iron-sights. Customers have reported the B-trigger is hard, lousy and makes an annoying snapping/cracking toy sound as a "featured" "sound effect". Since the trigger is useless, it gets negative points for being there at all, taking up space. Doesn't hide the Nunchuck cord. Ultimately meh.
GAMEware Wii Light Gun (http://www.game.co.uk/Wii/Hardware/Accessory/~r332012/GAMEware-Wii-Light-Gun/) Another rare UK shell rejected by Her Majesty's Secret Service. Looks like a very simple, bare-bones approach. No iron-sights, no cord compartment, no aesthetic appeal. The B-trigger looked interesting at first, but reviews say stiff, difficult crap.
dreamGEAR Wii Rumble Blaster (http://www.dreamgear.net/view-product.asp?idpr=742) Another interesting failure. Interesting break-apart design and aesthetics. No iron sights.
CTA Digital SureShot (http://ctadigital.com/catalog.asp?menuid=Catalog&display=itemdetail&categoryid=81&groupid=81&id=2405) This is the latest retail revision of their previous Shot Gun shell. The tip of the Remote barrel has been redesigned to integrate the loop sight and eliminate the old plastic ring attachment, which interfered with the Remote's line-of-sight. IR visibility should be noticeably improved. One of the retail packages on Amazon.com also includes a hunting game.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 06, 2008, 07:42:20 PM
Whatever happened to that gun that DIDN'T suck?
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: darknight06 on March 06, 2008, 07:51:04 PM
LCD TV's happened, that's what. Older style light guns only work on a CRT, that's why Nintendo probably went with their shell setup for the remote, and Time Crisis 4 uses it's own 2 sensors for it's six axis gun.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: Smoke39 on March 06, 2008, 08:08:46 PM
The trigger is lousy. The trigger pull is too long, and feels too heavy to me. I jammed some cardboard in it to keep the trigger partially "pulled" to make it more comfortable to use.
Has full sights, but the rear sight blocks more of your view than it needs to with extra plastic to the left and right of the notch.
The detachable part for the nunchaku doesn't actually snap into place. I've never had a problem with it falling apart while playing, but depending on how you hold it the two parts could conceivably just slip apart.
The foregrip is pretty uncomfortable if you ever decide to use it in the "pistol" configuration.
I also have a Nyko perfect shot. As a pistol, it's better than the Pega in every way except that it lacks a fore sight. One of these days I might glue something onto it in front to complement the rear sight that it does have.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: ShyGuy on March 07, 2008, 03:00:45 AM
SMG = sub machine gun SUPER MARIO GALAXY
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 07, 2008, 06:51:23 PM
Updated with useless SHOT GUN
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: Smoke39 on March 07, 2008, 07:32:10 PM
That'd be awesome if it weren't for the part where it can't see the sensor bar.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: LuigiHann on March 07, 2008, 09:44:28 PM
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 10, 2008, 01:51:25 PM
Unfortunately, that sucked too.
but it made a guest appearance in Ghost Squad.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 10, 2008, 04:16:15 PM
Updated with EFFING CROSSBOW
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 24, 2008, 06:52:03 PM
I got my CYBER WIIGUN in the mail today. I can feel its power.
It was also nice of DealExtreme to ship everything from Hong Kong for free.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: IceCold on March 25, 2008, 12:11:19 AM
Yeah, I found out about it a year ago - it's awesome. Kaidomain ships free also.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 25, 2008, 02:46:21 PM
Holy crap is this gun shell awesome. It also didn't come with Link's Lamebow Embarrassment, which is a plus, because it doesn't come with its own DVD case, which means it doesn't belong on my shelf with all the other REAL GAMES.
What shocked me the most was playing Ghost Squad, calibrated, yielded better accuracy than the stuff I had on Dreamcast -- my Hais lightgun performed better than the official Sega model, and lasted longer. DC HotD2, and Virtua Cop 2 had solid light gun programming, Confidential Mission was a little off, but Ghost Squad TOPS THEM ALL. I look down the barrel and its sights, which thankfully had the A/V notch setup... [\^/] ... like so, and at 10-ft away from my TV the A-notch did a great job lining up with the center of the reticule.
With the reticule turned off, capping terrorists and saving Harrison Ford again was A BLAST. And you know Ghost Squad had submachine gun setups in-mind when they provide the option to use the Z-button as the main trigger (cuz SERIOUS submachine gun toys have the main trigger towards the BACK, not on the STUPID foregrip). The button configuration, the excellent line-of-sight aim, the fact your characters use submachine guns... this game and this gun shell make COMPLETE SENSE.
The same can't be said for Umbrella Chronicles' awkward pistol waggle + nunchuck scheme, which totally does not blend with the Zapper setup at all. Actually, don't bother with gun shells at all when playing Umbrella Chronicles.
Ghost Squad is easily a worthy $42 arcade gun experience now.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 25, 2008, 03:35:38 PM
Holy crap is this gun shell awesome. It also didn't come with Link's Lamebow Embarrassment, which is a plus, because it doesn't come with its own DVD case, which means it doesn't belong on my shelf with all the other REAL GAMES!
...The Wii has real games? O.O Oh wait, you are probably taking about the XBOX 360.
As for that cross-bow peripheral...MY GOD! Now that's more appropriate for playing Link's CROSSBOW training!
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 25, 2008, 04:19:08 PM
Real games, like DK Jungle Beat.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 09, 2008, 05:29:33 PM
The Nyko Perfect Shot is getting good ratings (http://gear.ign.com/articles/841/841403p1.html) in almost all categories and it looks good. (http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/841/841403/nyko-perfect-shot-wii-20071213044444135.jpg)
I'm looking to get one, but they seem to be out of stock and it's driving the prices up(MSRP is 14.99).
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 09, 2008, 07:27:38 PM
To play what, exactly?
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 09, 2008, 07:29:32 PM
Which would narrow things down to only House of the Dead 2. And that's it.
Ghost Squad and HotD3 feel better with a submachine gun shell.
Well I haven't played GS and HotD3 yet, but I just beat 2 today and will start 3 tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think.
PRO-TIP: One way I have found to make the zapper actually pretty good for games that don't use the nunchuck is to hold the gun with your right hand like normal, then bring your left hand over and grab the TOP of the handle that the nunchuck goes in and hold the zapper against the right part of your mid-section. Keep your thumb above the hole next to your index finger.
It also keeps from bent wrists, a big thing for me.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 13, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
Laser Sight Special Crossbow w/ safety arrow (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11459) CHEEZUS KRAIST. If you ever wanted to put on a red dress and play "Assignment Ada" in front of your wife, now you can.
I just put 200 of those in my shopping cart. lol free overnight shipping upgrade
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2008, 06:41:23 PM
House of the Dead 2&3 is retarded. Using the Zapper configuration, you have to hold the B-trigger down then tap Z to shoot, if you wish to shoot with Z. What the hell were they thinking. Ghost Squad Wii got things right, yet the more popular series is borked.
Sega sucks.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 28, 2008, 06:59:13 PM
House of the Dead 2&3 is retarded. Using the Zapper configuration, you have to hold the B-trigger down then tap Z to shoot, if you wish to shoot with Z. What the hell were they thinking. Ghost Squad Wii got things right, yet the more popular series is borked.
Sega sucks.
Why do you have the nunchuck in at all? Your aim will be millions times easier if you don't use the nunuck and put your spare hand OVER the spot where the nunchuck goes, TRY IT.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2008, 07:27:35 PM
What kind of bizarro world do you come from where your run-of-the-mill SMG has a trigger placed with the foregrip? Get real.
My gun shell has sight notches so it's already a millions times easier to aim than the real Zapper. No guess work, at all.
If the Zapper was meant to be pushed against your shoulder, it'd have an appropriately long stock. But no, it's just fail, just like your spare-hand shenanigans.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 28, 2008, 07:34:48 PM
whateva, I call BS on your theories :)
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2008, 07:36:27 PM
CTA Digital Shotgun Shell updated with new info.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: vudu on April 29, 2008, 02:22:37 PM
Who was it who said the pistols were weak? Oh right ...
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 29, 2008, 03:43:39 PM
Pistols suck and so does House of the Dude 2.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 29, 2008, 04:02:41 PM
I actually prefer HotD2 over 3. The zombies are so annoying in 3. The either stay down or they don't and you can tell as easy when they are dead. Plus the final boss is such a little bitch.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2008, 02:58:42 PM
Updated with new failbow.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: Morari on May 19, 2008, 05:05:49 PM
Just watched the trailer. The graphics look pretty good some spots, but rather bland in others. Unless the develop that All Seeing Eye tool into a fun mechanic, I fear the game will just be another generic FPS. Also, I couldn't help but notice that the aiming reticle looked to be moving around the screen, ala Red Steel. I really hope this is not the case, as that makes turning painfully slow. With the Wii, developers really need to look toward the PC and design games so that the screen moves around the reticle, thus making one's ability to look around much quicker and more precise.
Edit: This post was meant for the thread discussing The Conduit. Oops.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 19, 2008, 05:12:16 PM
Just watched the trailer. The graphics look pretty good some spots, but rather bland in others. Unless the develop that All Seeing Eye tool into a fun mechanic, I fear the game will just be another generic FPS. Also, I couldn't help but notice that the aiming reticle looked to be moving around the screen, ala Red Steel. I really hope this is not the case, as that makes turning painfully slow. With the Wii, developers really need to look toward the PC and design games so that the screen moves around the reticle, thus making one's ability to look around much quicker and more precise.
I understand what you mean. When I first saw the "Laser Sight Special Crossbow w/ safety arrow" trailer I immediately said "I like it in the butt", too.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 19, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
Morari, I think that post was meant for the Conduit thread, you should probably move it there so I can argue with it.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2008, 04:17:03 PM
ahahaahah CTA Digital's Shot Gun looks WORSE than before!
Must-buy.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: Smoke39 on June 09, 2008, 09:21:55 PM
I think the extended magazine is removable for when you take the barrel off. Why they'd use that particular configuration for advertising is beyong me, though...
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2008, 09:24:03 PM
It's so different, it must be innovative/revolutionary/disruptive.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 31, 2008, 03:22:00 PM
I ordered CTA's shotgun and it's on its way.
When I receive it, I'm going to save the internets.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: vudu on July 31, 2008, 03:40:21 PM
How many plastic gun attachments do you own?
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 31, 2008, 03:46:19 PM
This would make it 2 now.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: BoB007 on August 01, 2008, 01:55:23 PM
I just ordered the Wii Perfect Shot for $11.57. It was a good deal with free shipping so I figured why not? I was just wondering what games would work well with it?
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 01, 2008, 02:48:08 PM
It's perfect for Umbrella Chronicles. It works well in Ghost Squad, though as ProGurl would point out, that game is all about machine guns, not pistols. I haven't played it, but I imagine it's good for House of the Dead 2 & 3 Return.
Basically, if a game proclaims Wii Zapper support, that means it was designed to be played without the remote's face buttons, so it should work with any gun shell. The only caveat is that Nintendo's backwards Zapper design might lead some developers to make Z the fire button instead of B, which is fine for the Zapper itself and clones of it, but not for pistol designs like the Perfect Shot. Hopefully, they'll be smart enough to make that optional.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: BoB007 on August 01, 2008, 03:53:58 PM
How about Call of Duty?
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 03, 2008, 06:23:51 AM
Umbrella Chronicles is a weird one to comment on because it won't play like a light-gun game no matter what plastic shell is used, since the crosshair cannot be disabled and no calibaration options are offered. All the shells do is give you something new to hold in your hand. The satisfaction of aiming by looking down the gun's sights is just not there.
On top of that, the sights on nearly all Wiimote-only pistol shells are rubbish -- they're incomplete or nonexistant. Without decent sights, there's no reliable/controlled way to calibrate them in a game like House of the Dead 3. I'm still waiting to see a pistol shell that gets it right.
I do recall that Ghost Squad does have unlockable pistols, which would make it a prime application for proper pistol shells (turning it into Virtua Cop!). Should I make another humiliating list for pistol shells?
The most retarded thing I've seen so far on the software side is House of the Dead 2/3 requires you hold the B-trigger first if you want to shoot with the Z-trigger (maching gun scheme) -- totally ruins the experience with my submachine gun shell, which is one of the reasons why I ordered the Shotgun Shell.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 04, 2008, 01:14:39 PM
Umbrella Chronicles is a weird one to comment on because it won't play like a light-gun game no matter what plastic shell is used, since the crosshair cannot be disabled and no calibaration options are offered. All the shells do is give you something new to hold in your hand. The satisfaction of aiming by looking down the gun's sights is just not there.
True, but I bought it primarily for the ergonomics. Pointing at the screen with the remote requires an unnatural wrist position that becomes painful quickly. My first marathon Boom Blox session left me sore for days.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 04, 2008, 02:00:58 PM
Mr WangMote wrist rests on my thigh, just as I do with most other games with pointy action.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 07, 2008, 12:42:40 PM
Got my Shotgun yesterday. It's a decent hunk of plastic.
The butt stock is removable, the useless laser barrel is removable, it has a LASER SIGHT (additional batteries req'd), and it conceals the Remote strap and Nunchuck cord completely.
Aiming is great at the recommended 10-ft standing distance w/ calibration, tho at that distance it'd be nice to have a 100-inch TV. Feels best with House of the Dead 3.
The unfortunate drawback to these shells with custom triggers is they tend to be spring-loaded, requiring more work to pull than your simply clickity B-trigger. Shots didn't seem to register if I didn't pull back hard enough, and you have to pull pretty far back. Arcade light-gun cramping kicked-in in the first minute of play. I will add some scotch tape padding to the trigger assembly to help remedy it.
Ghost Squad doesn't present this problem with submachine gun shells since the Nunchuck can be used to fire.
Using this with a Silent Scope game retooled for Wii would be great.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: AV on August 07, 2008, 11:42:03 PM
my thoughts. Wii Zapper vs. Perfect shot I haven't tried any other guns because i don't need to
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 08, 2008, 01:02:35 PM
I disassembled the Shotgun last night in hopes of "improving" the trigger.
I added a stick-on rubber foot/peg thing on the trigger tab and removed the spring from the trigger assembly -- overkill, no luck. The trigger hardly moves and will not return to its default position. I'll try shortening the spring and reinstall it tonight.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 14, 2008, 05:51:22 PM
A couple nights ago I removed the rubber nub I tried to add, and shortened the effective uncompressed length of the spring. The trigger feels softer (reduced return force) and more comfy to deal with; I don't get the sense my finger will cramp after 10 pulls, happily delaying the inevitable. The unfornate downside remains that the trigger can be perceived as "mushy", the result of a mechanism utilizing a long shaft/wire to linearly slide a plastic bump against the click-oriented B-trigger (less dextrous than the plastic tabs that expand upon the B-trigger on the Zapper and Wii Wheel). I hear Nyko's Perfect Shot feels all right, most likely due to its compactness.
You would think House of the Dead 3 would be the perfect match for this shell, but it's not (Ghost Squad is...). When immersion vs. playability are taken into account, HotD3 is a horrible combination with any light gun setup (nevermind that not all gun shells are suitable for calibrated aiming, due to the bad precedent set by the Zapper) 1) The characters sport shotguns. Do you have a pistol shell? a Zapper or SMG shell? Great, right? WRONG, AUTOMATIC FAIL, THESE DO NOT MIMIC SHOTGUNS. So much for authenticity and consistency. 2) So you decide to use a Zapper/SMG including the Nunchuck, and you want to fire with the Z-button cuz a two-handed gun with a trigger assembly placed where the foregrip should be makes no sense at all. Good luck, cuz in order to fire with the Z-button in HotD you have to also hold down the B-trigger. ABSOLUTELY RETARDED. 3) You might have CTA Digital's shotgun style shell. Everything looks ok: it's a shotgun shaped thing, and the nunchuck is optional. Smooth sailing? HA-HA-HA, NO. HotD3 has a weird design shortcomming in that it continues HotD2's (pistols) trigger happy tradition and pairs it with THE WRONG WEAPONS (shotguns). Doesn't matter if you have the Wii Shotgun or even a legit single-shot arcade light-gun rifle (hypothetically), the amount of firepower you have to desperately unleash becomes painful, tiring, and annoying. Clicking the Remote's B-button is no big deal, but having to pull a trigger a half-inch or 3/4 of an inch rapidly gets old quick. The joy of having an accurately-aiming arcade experience at home goes out the window when the game makes you concerned with hammering the trigger and reloading ASAP.
Spending time with HotD further cements Ghost Squad's supreme badass-ness. The default game mainly employs a submachine gun (with variable firing rates); but with the player profile feature, additional weapons and uniforms can be unlocked as you build up experience. The unlockables easily accomodate the different gun shells on the market, and the available button configurations don't suck. On top of that, the gameplay is derived from the Virtua Cop tradition, favoring accuracy on pop-up targets from a variety of locations, as opposed to showering lead on a few monsters to keep them from walking closer to you.
Submachine Guns: Check. - firing rates: single shot, 3-round burst, full auto (in-game power up) - aim: awesome with SMG shell - gameplay: standard, tight
Pistols/Revolvers: Check. - firing rates: single shot - aim: awesome with pistol shell - gameplay: Virtua Cop REBORN
Shotguns: Check. - firing rates: single shot buckshot - aim: awesome with the shotgun shell - gameplay: well-paced BOOMSTICK target practice. Buckshots do spread, adding an additional predicament to aiming: NO HOSTAGE is safe from the player, leading to all kinds of amusement.
Apparently some Sega suit mentioned today they have more MURDER SIMULATORS in store for Wii. Let's hope they're original offerings that take Ghost Squad's functionality to new levels, along with more game length.
"SJ: We are fans of the Wii Zapper. Our “Ghost Squad” game keeps selling. We have more Zapper games going. The same for the Wii Balance Board, although we have nothing announced yet."
Funny how Ghost Skwod is mentioned and not House of the Fail.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: Morari on August 14, 2008, 07:03:16 PM
I've been trying to get a hold of a used Zapper, but haven't had any luck. I can only find it (still) bundled with Link's Crossbow Training and hovering at about $15-$18. For that price, I might as well buy the combo new and use the extra disc as a frisbee.
I've been eying those Nyko Perfect Shot shells, but have been very hesitant of third party accessories ever since those Dreamcast memory cards developed a habit of randomly reformatting...
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 14, 2008, 07:24:59 PM
Well here's something to comfort you: It's $10-15 worth of PLASTIC. That does almost nothing. It does not interface with Wii. It does not consume nor utilize electricity in any way. They're like dustpans and cupholders with entertainment applications.
They bring IMAGINATION back into games =D
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Post by: Morari on August 14, 2008, 07:42:59 PM
Oh I know, I already have one Zapper after all. I just want a second one (thus looking for it without the game) for multiplayer purposes. I find that it does make the light game games noticeably more satisfying.
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Datel Wii Machine Gun (http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Machine-Gun__EF000559.aspx) Looks serious about its SMG grip style, with decent spacing. Doesn't hide cords. Not suitable for waggle.
I've seen a few of those on eBay for cheap. The design looked nice enough (except that it doesn't hide the cord). Why isn't it suitable for waggle?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 14, 2008, 08:40:57 PM
Due to its length, it's unwieldy for the kind of high-frequency waggle that's necessary in a game like RE Umbrella Chronicles.
Think of simple rapid wrist waggle (Wii Remote only) versus trying to shake both your forearms in alternating directions (two handed Zapper clone).
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 15, 2008, 03:56:17 PM
I was thinking, the Zapper appears to be an extremely cheap, low-end solution to providing the feel of a firearm for all these target practice games.
I wonder how the 3rd party plastic shell scene would change if the Zapper was really a molded Classic Controller (a la Guitar Hero) and had a proper electronic trigger. The fact that the Nunchuck isn't standard in the shooting games has lead to the wide variety of crap configurations that either combine or exclude the Nunchuk, with the lazy options not including a means to hide the Nunchuck cord. If the Zapper was a Classic Controller, the Nunchuk could be completely ignored in the design, but would the configurations be less wacky? The triggers would potentially be more reliable this way. Then again, this would sharply increase the production cost, reduce the willing 3rd party manufacturers to the likes of Nyko, spawn awful cartoony designs by those same regular 3rd parties, and increase the retail price.
Yes, I ponder about ways to improve the MURDER SIMULATOR experience.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 19, 2008, 10:01:57 PM
I wonder who forgot about this? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/CONFUZZLED_MUNKIE/wiimoteblaster.jpg)
Destructoid previewed the game it comes with an it sucks, plus EA has the balls to charge 59.99 for Nerf Nstrike and the Nerf gun shell.
Fortunately EA is going to sell the Nerf gun by itself for 14.99 as well.
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2008, 10:10:47 PM
It's not a Zapper clone. Learn to comprehend.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 19, 2008, 10:58:25 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2008, 11:44:29 AM
Read the first post and get back on topic.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 20, 2008, 03:13:12 PM
YAARR, what be the best SMG style ?
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Post by: vudu on August 20, 2008, 03:19:12 PM
Luigi--his jumps are higher and he looks cooler.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 20, 2008, 03:25:29 PM
ZAP
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2008, 03:33:20 PM
owned
Title: Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
Post by: DAaaMan64 on August 20, 2008, 03:34:56 PM
PRO, What is the best SMG Style GUN Shell?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2008, 04:33:05 PM
buh
Are you asking for the Best or My Favorite?
None so far can be considered "best" since they all manage to have some obvious tradeoff/shortcomming.
My favorite is the one I bought: Gunhazard Cyber WiiGun. Has the best "iron sights", good size/spacing, and hides the Nunchuck cord. But it doesn't have a custom B-trigger at all, so it doesn't truly replace the Zapper. Other shells can replace the Zapper fine, but they might not offer anything more or they might lack features or the features suck.
Ghost Squad provides the most robust and functional arcade gun experience so far. Gunhazard Cyber WiiGun provides the best Ghost Squad experience.
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Post by: Stogi on August 20, 2008, 04:36:52 PM
Can you use the "Z" button as the trigger in Ghost Squad?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
Definitely.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 26, 2008, 05:12:31 PM
CTA Digital has some incredibly weird Wii peripherals, but this is the first pistol-style peripheral (http://ctadigital.com/catalog.asp?menuid=Catalog&display=itemdetail&parentid=12&categoryid=81&groupid=81&id=2346) I've seen that puts the Z button where the trigger would be. It appears to have iron sights, and there's no visible cord in the picture. You even get two shells in the package. If I was confident that all Zapper games would use the Z button as the trigger, I'd be tempted to be (near as I can tell) the first person on the entire web to buy and review them.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 26, 2008, 06:21:50 PM
There's about 4 other pistol shells that use the Z-button as the main trigger, and they appeared well before CTA Digital's catalog. One can visit ebay and search "wii gun" to find all that the internet has to offer. On a related note, I bought the 2-in-1 Combined Light Gun from an ebay seller a few hours ago, about $11 even; I want to see how its trigger handles.
It's irritating that Z-triggering isn't a standard option across all these light-gun games. Having a pistol setup that excludes the Nunchuck (ie Nyko Perfect Shot) is convenient as far as hardware requirements go, but the Z-button is much better for comfort and playability in the long run.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 26, 2008, 06:52:25 PM
This one popped up in an email from Amazon based on my purchase history. I only followed the link because of how amusingly bad most of these things are, and I was surprised that they didn't look too bad.
I agree about Z-triggering. Nintendo's schizophrenic Zapper design confused third parties, and now even though I want a decent gun shell for light gun games, I can't be sure that any of them will work with every game.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 28, 2008, 07:01:14 PM
I found 2 more "rare" "British" SMG shells while sifting thru 50 pages of gun shells on Google Image Search. They're both average/meh, but strangely they don't have a significant internet presence like some other shells. Maybe GoHobo never reported on these.
I'll add them to the list later.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 29, 2008, 01:25:49 PM
First post updated with new shells and updated impressions for my own purchases.
Ghost Squad is now a $72 robust arcade gun experience for me.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 05, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
Updated the first post with these live demo videos:
Ghost Squad 1:1 calibrated play with SMG shell and Shotgun shell (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/ghostsquad.html)
Video of RABicle playing to follow in the near future.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 05, 2008, 07:07:59 PM
For those interested,
The Smart Gun Pro V2 by HVG is one of the two best pistol shells on the market. The original Smart Gun Pro has a mold identical to the Nyko Perfect Shot (same supplier?), and the V2 finally adds the proper iron sights. The other top shell is the 2-in-1 Light Gun with the useless Nunchuck cradle. I saw the V2 for the first time last night at Fry's and picked it up for $18. The Nyko was priced $13, but it's now worthless in comparison as it is infinitely inferior.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 22, 2008, 05:29:22 PM
Added the dreamGEAR Wii Rumble Blaster to the top poast.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 23, 2008, 02:13:15 PM
I bought another SMG shell off eBay. It looks like a winner.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 23, 2008, 02:25:19 PM
Hey pro, did you ever try this Wii light gun shell from Cobalt Flux? (https://www.cobaltflux.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16150&cat=251)
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 23, 2008, 02:29:21 PM
LOL no
I was looking at that page yesterday. I admire the effort.
But I see no way to aim that thing. It's like you point your hand and hope it works, in a strange case of Men in Black meets The Transporter.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 23, 2008, 02:44:49 PM
I was looking at that page yesterday. I admire the effort.
But I see no way to aim that thing. It's like you point your hand and hope it works, in a strange case of Men in Black meets The Transporter.
https://www.cobaltflux.com/xcart/home.php?cat=251 (https://www.cobaltflux.com/xcart/home.php?cat=251) If you check out this picture it shows how it's held so my guess is that it has a mirror to bend the IR light from the sensor bar to the Wii remote IR camera on the scope looking thing. The gun barrel is just for show.
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Post by: Renny on December 23, 2008, 02:49:19 PM
It would be on-screen reticle friendly. Looks like you could pistol-waggle with it effectively, also. Might be worth a try for Umbrella Chronicles.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on December 23, 2008, 03:24:24 PM
I'd be willing to pay cash money for that if it didn't have the ugly fake pistol bit and was simply an ergonomic Wii remote grip.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 23, 2008, 05:16:24 PM
Ummm no, there's nothing to look through. Holding it fancy like Jason Statham is just a style choice. Click on pic #3.
The point of having a decent shell is so you can ditch an on-screen reticule and aim primarily by eye, assisted by iron sites or a legitimate scope.
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Post by: Smoke39 on December 23, 2008, 11:36:41 PM
I suck at using iron sights, can I have a shell with a reflex sight?
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Post by: Renny on December 24, 2008, 09:04:12 AM
I thought the point of that model was simply to hold the Wiimote at a more comfortable angle. The legitimizing of wearing a suit and leather gloves while playing your Wii is secondary.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2008, 08:13:30 PM
I suck at using iron sights, can I have a shell with a reflex sight?
Tape your own to a Zapper.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2008, 08:15:30 PM
Added CTA Digital's SureShot to the top poast.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 26, 2008, 08:40:38 PM
You should add this one so you can be like the cool kids on the block (http://www.amazon.com/Gears-Amazon-com-Exclusive-Lancer-Xbox-360/dp/B001CLYL24/ref=xs_gb_20_left-3_1_B001CLYL24?pf_rd_p=451293501&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0T1RBSMWQB2YGHJF21QE)
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Post by: vudu on September 01, 2009, 10:29:48 AM
Hey, Pro! I need you to buy this (http://www.buy.com/prod/wii-crossfire-remote-integrated-pistol-by-penguin-united/q/loc/108/211957372.html?adid=17653) and let me know if it's any good. :)
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 01, 2009, 12:26:36 PM
$40? AWWW HELL NAW, that goes beyond the realm of impulse experimentation purchasing. I don't want to spend that just to add another device to stuff batteries into AND find out that the built-in waggle sensors are crap. The company doesn't even provide the courtesy of multiple picture angles nor details if the Nunchuk can be plugged it.
Go ahead and buy it, you have my non-binding support.
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Post by: vudu on September 01, 2009, 01:56:36 PM
I'm sorry--I must have mistaken you for a non-casual gamer.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 01, 2009, 02:19:04 PM
Stratos is getting paid soon.
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Post by: vudu on September 22, 2009, 04:42:31 PM
Here are a couple reviews/impressions of the Penguin United CrossFire Remote Pistol that I linked to above.
Tho it probably has the same stiff trigger as their shotgun and the scope doesn't provide any real optics, it's still rad. Probably the best match for Overkill's assault rifle.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2010, 06:21:41 PM
It has it's own nunchuck built in. joystick on the back and the Z and C button on the clip.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2010, 07:08:48 PM
No, you supply the Nunchuk, just as with their shotgun. Mechanical extensions allow the shell to place spring-loaded buttons on the magazine.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2010, 07:11:46 PM
Oh, well I hope Nintendo goes pass-thru port tech in the Wiimote 2.0. Would make the peripherals much better to have real buttons that don't have to rely on springs and plastic levers to reach the wiimote.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2010, 07:25:11 PM
Oh, well I hope Nintendo goes pass-thru port tech in the Wiimote 2.0. Would make the peripherals much better to have real buttons that don't have to rely on springs and plastic levers to reach the wiimote.
Actually, it already exists, but most shells are cheaply produced by no-name Chinese manufacturers such that the parts are all-plastic or maybe have a few metallic screws. What they need to be are Classic Controllers, like the Guitar Hero shells. But we know god damned Activision initially charged $50 for these things, and making shells with this functionality easily adds $10-15 to the cost of a simple $5-$10 plastic cover.
Problem is, no one's dared to make an sincere gun shell that combines a decent physical design with the button functionality. They feel it's cheaper to not try so hard, just offering the bare minimum; there's no ambition to be "the" success in this niche market.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2010, 07:34:15 PM
Motion controls (tilt and swivel) still work while in classic control mode right?
So you could make a gun the uses the wiimote tilt and aim with pass thru on all the wiimote buttons? because I wasn't aware that you could do that on the current Wiimotes.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2010, 07:56:49 PM
Guitar Hero has a "lightning" score booster that's triggered by tilting the guitar upright, so that's my only proof the functions coexist.
Other than that, Remote tilt has zero bearing on all these gun games, which all rely exclusively on IR tracking. Once in a while, there's something to waggle.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2010, 08:46:31 PM
If pass through worked and was supported by Nintendo, then some of these gun games (with actual gun attachments) could be off the hook.
Specialized(read: functional) gun attachments would breath life into the stale on rails and FPS genre and finally bring that arcade feeling home inexpensively.
spring loaded clips that replace the + button reload, real quality triggers to replace the b button. Built in joystick somewhere that is physically comfortable, maybe some added rumble or kick-back for added simulation realism. All the other buttons put somewhere that make sense and within your natural grip. And all that with it's own rechargeable battery so that you don't drain your wiimote in 30minutes or less.
But that's definite asking for far too much.
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Post by: broodwars on January 11, 2010, 08:49:11 PM
*shrugs*
I'm perfectly happy with my Perfect Shot. All I'd like is some force feedback, because it feels kind of empty unloading a Submachine Gun on a creature in Darkside Chronicles without feeling any vibration in my "gun". Heh, turns out sometime in the past (probably while playing some Wii game that didn't use it particularly well) I turned the Rumble in the Wiimote off. Well, that's fixed now.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2010, 09:06:06 PM
"But that's definite asking for far too much."
In many ways, it's true. Most of these games are afterthoughts of the Wii's IR function. Whereas all these plastic things are afterthoughts of the physical Zapper. What we're not seeing is a major coordination between a peripheral design and a game design closer to the level of "Guitar Hero." The best we're seeing are generic hunting games bundled with an ORANGE but still perfectly functional shotgun shell. No one's made a good EXAMPLE to trigger the right copycats.
But in this Wii bizness, there probably isn't such a thing as a good copycat.
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Post by: vudu on April 30, 2010, 11:20:11 AM
Penguin United Wii Crossfire Remote Integrated Pistol on sale for $24.99 w/ free shipping (http://www.buy.com/prod/wii-crossfire-remote-integrated-pistol-by-penguin-united/q/loc/108/listingid/50486025/211957372.html?adid=17992)
If Pro still refuses to buy this he hates fun.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 30, 2010, 11:58:27 AM
Penguin United Wii Crossfire Remote Integrated Pistol on sale for $24.99 w/ free shipping (http://www.buy.com/prod/wii-crossfire-remote-integrated-pistol-by-penguin-united/q/loc/108/listingid/50486025/211957372.html?adid=17992)
If Pro still refuses to buy this he hates fun.
That looks good, but does it work well?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 30, 2010, 12:12:21 PM
Still expensive for something that's only good for in-game pistols. And as far as lightgun experiences go, the pistol is overdone and the least exciting.
My Wii Remote can be a pistol, an assault rifle, a steering wheel, a flashlight, and a sword.
Vudu hates value.
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Post by: vudu on April 30, 2010, 01:01:02 PM
This thing looks solid. If you don't buy it you hate light gun games!
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Post by: Halbred on April 30, 2010, 03:06:45 PM
I saw a silly-looking remote gun shell that was RE-branded, to be used specifically with the RE games like Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles, and RE4: Wii Edition. I almost bought it for kitch, but it was like $25 so I didn't bother. Looked like a sawed-off shotgun.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 30, 2010, 03:26:46 PM
I got one of those. It's a nice, well made product. Recommended if you like Light Gun Games. I paid $40 for mine. :(
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Post by: Halbred on April 30, 2010, 03:35:34 PM
Well-made, eh? $25 is a deal? I DO like my light-gun games...
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2010, 06:28:25 PM
THis isn't a Wii Zapper or gun shell, but I didn't want to search anymore or start a new thread
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10830&cs_id=1083001&p_id=5666&seq=1&format=6#faq (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10830&cs_id=1083001&p_id=5666&seq=1&format=6#faq) It's a 2 in 1 Controller for Wii and Game Cube under $5 from monoprice
I was just wondering if anyone knew anything about this. Can you use it to play GC games with the controller plugged into the Wiimote? does it also work as a Classic Controller? Is it possible to play gamecube using anything related to the wiimote? Is anyone willing to buy it and find out?
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Post by: vudu on May 16, 2010, 12:02:51 PM
Can you use it to play GC games with the controller plugged into the Wiimote? does it also work as a Classic Controller? Is it possible to play gamecube using anything related to the wiimote?
Probably not. This looks to be the same controller. (http://www.thegamerschoice.net/detail.asp?keyid=498) You can clearly see that it's just a GameCube input on the end of that cord. Sorry!
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2010, 01:07:29 PM
the other one was monoprice branded and didn't show the end of the cord, so I wasn't sure if they came up with something new or not.
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Post by: vudu on May 16, 2010, 01:46:06 PM
Seems unlikely. From what we can see the two seem to be identical except for the color of the buttons.
