Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: ShyGuy on May 20, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
Title: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 20, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
LTTP!
I recently upgraded the video card in my computer and downloaded the Quake 4 demo for Linux. I liked it more than I thought I would so I picked up the full version for $20.
The story is generic as they come (Space Marine counter-attack on the alien home world) but ID Software are the ones that popularized this setting and it's very polished and well done so far.
Anyone else play this?
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: vudu on May 20, 2008, 02:13:22 PM
Link to the Past?
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 20, 2008, 03:20:03 PM
I played it a while back. I was kind of peeved that the manual outright gave away what would have been an incredible surprise in the story, which really needed that surprise because of how generic it is. Of course, what other kind of story can you have in a direct sequel to Quake 2?
I liked that it gave a better sense of being part of a massive assault on an alien planet than Quake 2 did while maintaining the feeling of being the lone hero. They struck a decent balance that helped with suspension of disbelief. Also, there were some really likable characters. It's just too bad all the extras were voiced by two people.
And of course the gameplay was pretty good. I particularly liked the dark matter gun. I think it was the best version of the BFG yet (it shoots black holes).
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 20, 2008, 03:55:41 PM
Late to the Party
So far I think it's my favorite out the games using the Doom3 engine.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 20, 2008, 05:07:19 PM
LttP: Will always mean Link to the Past here...It didn't even occur to me it could mean something else.
Late to the Party? I guess it *could* work.
As for the the game, what was the surprise that was spoilled?
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: vudu on May 20, 2008, 05:10:07 PM
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 20, 2008, 05:33:37 PM
I played the demo once. It seemed like it did for Quake what Doom 3 did for Doom--namely, broke it. Plus I think the Doom 3 engine has to have the ugliest graphics engine, like, ever.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on May 20, 2008, 05:51:26 PM
As for the the game, what was the surprise that was spoilled?
The player character gets stroggified (turned into a cyborg in a brutal and bloody manner). I didn't pay much attention to the game during development, so for all I know this was always common knowledge, but I didn't find out about it until a quick glance at the manual while I installed the game.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 20, 2008, 06:17:34 PM
Wrong, Earthbound has the worst graphics engine ever.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 20, 2008, 06:29:39 PM
What, you mean displaying arrays of tiles? It's no different than any other SNES game in that regard.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 20, 2008, 08:40:08 PM
YOU'RE AN ARRAY OF TILES
(Interesting factoid, Umbrellas Chronicles uses the Doom 3 engine. That explains why it's so dark and murky)
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 20, 2008, 10:10:56 PM
I don't believe you. Umbrella Chronicles wasn't nearly plasticy enough to be running on the Doom 3 engine.
YOUR MOM'S AN ARRAY OF TILES
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 20, 2008, 11:01:26 PM
I've had Quake 4 for the 360 for like 2 years...haven't played it in about...2 years. It is pretty cool though, and deathmatches online are nice.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: KDR_11k on May 21, 2008, 07:00:06 AM
I call the BFG a katamari launcher because of how it looks if the ball hits enemies in mid-flight.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: bustin98 on May 22, 2008, 12:19:10 AM
I got Quake 4 on the 360 a little while ago. It came with Quake 2. I have so far spent more time with Quake 2. After playing Quake 2 on the N64 all these years I see now that what I was playing was not really Quake 2 but maybe Quake 2.5 or Quake 2 Alternate Universe Edition. Still, I love me some twitch FPS games.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: KDR_11k on May 22, 2008, 04:07:32 PM
I thought only Quake 1 was ported to the N64...
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 22, 2008, 04:19:59 PM
I liked Quake 4 on the 360, never played it on the PC but I am not sure if my system could handle it or not. Off to check.
Ok I'm back. Nope I guess my video card isn't strong enough. Oh Well.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 22, 2008, 08:22:25 PM
So I have a question, even if my video card isn't on the list of supported cards but it meets the requirements should it still run Doom 3 or Quake 4?
What video card do you have?
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: KDR_11k on May 29, 2008, 03:01:59 AM
If it's NVidia or Ati ending in a number that's at least 500 it should work (yes, even a Radeon 8500 can play Doom 3, though not at a very high framerate).
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 29, 2008, 11:38:35 AM
a 9200 SE AGP 128 MB
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: KDR_11k on May 29, 2008, 02:40:35 PM
I'm not sure, I'd try a demo first.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 29, 2008, 03:31:30 PM
The only PC games I really want to play are Doom 3, Quake 4, Star Wars Empire at War and Oblivion, well and Crackdown but I doubt I can run that.
So far I have not found a single website that would tell me if my system would work, the stupid thing is aside from the damn video card my machines exceeds ALL of the minimum requirements. And I never can tell if my card has the features required or not. But I did not buy it to play games but figured since I got it. Thanks for the advice KDR I'll have to try that.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 29, 2008, 06:04:17 PM
It may run, but incredibly slow. 9200se is less power than a 9000 (which I used to have). WoW would be okay, so would Quake 3 based games.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 29, 2008, 09:21:06 PM
WoW being the one PC game that I am boycotting :P
So I guess this is just not a gaming set up then. Oh well no loss no gain.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 29, 2008, 10:14:33 PM
Depends on what year you're comparing your computer to.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 29, 2008, 10:21:15 PM
Ok well I have a 2 Ghz Sempron, 1 Gb DDR RAM, with a 128 MB 9200 SE video card, basically before adding the video card I couldn't even run Halo which came out 3 years before my PC was made, and my set up meets or exceeds the recommended settings for that game, other than hardware Transform and Lighting, which I am not sure if my current video card even supports as I cannot find any definitive documentation on it, even from the Ati website. (although I admit I did not look for very long cuz I gave up in despair)
Anyways I figured it should run Doom 3 as it was released a year before my PC was made and again the video card was the only thing holding me back, but according to the Doom 3 site, my exact card is not on the list of "officially supported cards" so I went seeking out side help. For this I ended up actually registering for several doom 3 forums and not one person could help me out. So I turn to the experts here who usually have an answer for me. I figure I should be able to run most DC era games at the very least.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 29, 2008, 10:25:56 PM
Did you ever actually try the demo? That really is the easiest way to test if a game will run on your computer.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 29, 2008, 10:27:45 PM
not yet, I am still recovering from that virus attack I had the other day, I am not ready to just run out and download a demo of a video game till I make sure this new software works. But I plan on getting around to it.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 30, 2008, 01:13:26 AM
If your looking for deatchmatch FPS, I recommend Wolfenstein Enemy Territory and UrbanTerror. Both should run fine on your card and both are free.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 30, 2008, 01:21:59 AM
Urban Terror's cartoony-ish look reminds me of Shogo. Speaking of which, Shogo is awesome. Buy Shogo, rat, it's old; it'll run on your computer.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 30, 2008, 01:25:37 AM
If you don't play Death match online FPSes much, be ready to get your ass handed to you for a while. I hate that about online gaming...
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: KDR_11k on May 30, 2008, 03:24:24 AM
You can probably get a 40$ or so graphics card to get a huge upgrade.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 30, 2008, 04:56:57 PM
No, I play alone no online for me.
Has nobody been paying attention to how broke I am? I sold my DS to buy an HDD and pay a bill. Otherwise I would have a brand spanking new Alien Ware gaming rig.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 30, 2008, 07:14:33 PM
All the more reason to buy Shogo. :D
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 30, 2008, 07:38:03 PM
and what is that again?
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 30, 2008, 08:51:32 PM
An old FPS by Monolith that alternates between mecha and on-foot missions.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 30, 2008, 10:01:30 PM
Ok, something to check out then thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on May 30, 2008, 11:41:19 PM
I always got SHogo and Slave Zero confused.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 30, 2008, 11:50:51 PM
If you want a good FPS to play single player I'd recommend Marathon. Made by Bungie, best known of course for Halo (by most, there are some that still swear by their RTS series, Myth), before they abandoned the Mac, you'll notice that there are similarities but there are differences too. The trilogy was released as freeware by Bungie but you'd probably want to check out Marathon Resurrection, a remake of the game in the Unreal Tournament engine
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 31, 2008, 02:39:04 PM
God why does everyone think all I want is to play FPses? I liek Doom and Quake, that is all, I didn't get them on GC, or Wii cuz you know that happened, so I fiured I play them on my PC. I am not looking for clones I am looking to play the only FPS games I ever enjoyed. Sorry rant over.
WHat I meant to say is, if FPS games is all anyone can suggest, then maybe PC gaming isn't for me and this reminds me why I shy away from the platform in the first place. Are there any NON FPS games that I might enjoy that would run reasonable well on a system like this? I already know I like Quake, I already know I like Doom, but those are the exception not the rule.
Before upgrading, like a log time ago when I only had windows 98 and a system with 64MB RAM, I played a lot of games, then it was cuz I didn't have a 64 or a Playstation and got bored with my SNES and my Genesis was getting tired from where. So I played Duke Nukem (not the 3D it was ok but not for me) Mechwarrior 2 (really loved but it didn't run that good) Puzzle Bobble )my all time favorite game) and then I started buying these Windows compilation CD's that would come with random games, mostly card and puzzle games but occasionally a nice shmup here and there.
Since i have established Quake 4 is not likely to run, I am going to check out Quake 3 and hope for the best with Doom 3. Other than that I am mostly looking for games that I can sit down and play any old time.
Someone once suggested Civ, maybe I will look into that.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 31, 2008, 10:28:37 PM
The thread was about Quake 4 and so I assumed that's what you wanted. If you want something besides a FPS I'd recommend Escape Velocity Nova. It will certainly run on your computer and it is very much not a FPS. It's kind of a sandbox game in that it's very open-ended and there's lots to do. You have a space ship and you fly around a pretty large galaxy doing missions. There are I believe 6 main storylines you can choose from (whatever you do, don't go in with the Vell-os), or you can be an independent trader and maybe dabble in a little piracy. The game has (or at least had) a very active mod community, and there are hundreds of plugins available and several total conversions that change almost everything about the game.
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: animecyberrat on May 31, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
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I will not rest until Ambrosia develops an Escape Velocity game for the DS.
Well so far based on other threads I have seen, you and I tend to like the same kinds of games, so I might have to check this out. I was going to make a comment about that being the game in your sig, but I decided to quote the sig and forgot what I was going to ask.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Smoke39 on May 31, 2008, 11:26:16 PM
That's right I played Q3, that was "the arena" right? If so I hated that game.
Yes, it was called Quake 3 Arena with an expansion called Team Arena.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: ShyGuy on July 06, 2008, 02:31:05 PM
Strogg Bump!
Finished the game, a tasty snack of empty calories.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Morari on July 06, 2008, 06:24:23 PM
I had finished it a few days after release. It was definitely more entertaining than DooM 3, but didn't show near the visual polish. They should have went a little farther with the squad mechanics, pitting you against the Tactile Transfers more often, as they forced you to go for cover now and then. I think the only truly great game to come out of the DooM 3 engine was Prey, and even it didn't quite utilize its mechanics to their full potential.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: vudu on July 07, 2008, 03:08:26 PM
I think I'm the only person in the world who really liked Doom 3.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 07, 2008, 04:14:46 PM
You're still casual. You haven't upstreamed to Resistance: Fall of Sony Quarterly Profits yet.
Title: Re: Quake 4
Post by: Morari on July 07, 2008, 04:56:09 PM
I think I'm the only person in the world who really liked Doom 3.
DooM 3 started out great, but quickly became unbelievably boring. It was essentially just the original DooM with flashy blocky shadows everywhere. If I wanted that (and sometimes I do), I'd go play the original DooM. Having an Imp jump out of some suspiciously placed closet every corner was not scary, it was in fact very dumb. The game never pitted you against more than a few dumb enemies at a time, so it failed to be very action orientated. By the same stroke however, it also failed to take advantage of the setting in order to provide any real suspense, and thus failed to be any sort of horror-fest as well.
From what little has been spoken of RAGE thus far, it sounds as if it may just put Id back on the map. I wasn't particularly impressed with Unreal Tournament III (I was always a Quake guy anyway), but it seems the Unreal Engine is all you hear about nowadays and that is precisely because Id failed to deliver a decent game showing off their technology last time. :P
