"I’m not 100% certain when it happened. I think it’s when I had Nathan Drake atop a building in a war-torn Nepalese city, cornered and being fired upon by a helicopter, engaged in a fist fight with the screen slowly draining of color, snapping my enemy’s neck and quickly rolling into cover to reload my grenade launcher only to turn and fire upon the chopper one last time as I watched it crash and explode. I think this is when I realized that Uncharted 2: Among Thieves was the best single-player game I have ever played."
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2009, 04:25:32 PM
The whole damn world is conspiring against me to get me to buy a PS3. Good thing I don't trust Lindy's opinion on games.
User was warned for this post. It's easy to warn people when they admit to breaking the rules two posts later. ~Pale
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 05, 2009, 04:29:41 PM
I'm getting Wii Fit Plus (disc) later today.
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Post by: vudu on October 05, 2009, 04:31:04 PM
:( I secretly hoped everyone was trolling this thread by not posting. Insanolord ruined my fun.
I've heard nothing but good things about Uncharted and I'll definitely pick them up when/if I get a PS3. Unfortunately, that probably won't happen until it gets Netflix streaming.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2009, 04:51:33 PM
:( I secretly hoped everyone was trolling this thread by not posting. Insanolord ruined my fun.
I've heard nothing but good things about Uncharted and I'll definitely pick them up when/if I get a PS3. Unfortunately, that probably won't happen until it gets Netflix streaming.
Sorry, I decided to troll the thread (or at least the thread creator) by posting instead.
If you want Netflix streaming so bad you should get a 360. It also has a controller that, unlike the Dual Shock, won't give you leprosy.
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Post by: vudu on October 05, 2009, 05:04:05 PM
If you want Netflix streaming so bad you should get a 360. It also has a controller that, unlike the Dual Shock, won't give you leprosy.
Sorry, but I can't justify a second console for Netflix alone. I also can't justify it for a Blu-ray player by itself. But a Blu-ray player AND Netflix? ;)
Besides, the PS3 has significantly more exclusives that interest me. Gears of War can suck a lemon.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2009, 05:33:39 PM
I think 10/10 is justified in only the rarest of circumstances, but based on the fact that both the single-player AND multiplayer are supposedly amazing, I can see it with Uncharted 2. The first game is easily 9/10 for me, and that's with a few flaws and no multiplayer component.
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Post by: Mop it up on October 05, 2009, 05:53:44 PM
I'm surprised that a topic like this on a Nintendo-focused forum isn't trolling. Shouldn't we all believe Zelda to be the official best single-player game ever?
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2009, 07:01:24 PM
If you want Netflix streaming so bad you should get a 360. It also has a controller that, unlike the Dual Shock, won't give you leprosy.
Sorry, but I can't justify a second console for Netflix alone. I also can't justify it for a Blu-ray player by itself. But a Blu-ray player AND Netflix? ;)
Besides, the PS3 has significantly more exclusives that interest me. Gears of War can suck a lemon.
Have you actually played Gears of War? Behind the awful story and technically-impressive-though-unappealing graphics is a really fun and well-made game.
I'm surprised that a topic like this on a Nintendo-focused forum isn't trolling. Shouldn't we all believe Zelda to be the official best single-player game ever?
Re-read the site rules; if the Director does it it's not trolling.
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Post by: broodwars on October 05, 2009, 07:03:07 PM
I think 10/10 is justified in only the rarest of circumstances, but based on the fact that both the single-player AND multiplayer are supposedly amazing, I can see it with Uncharted 2. The first game is easily 9/10 for me, and that's with a few flaws and no multiplayer component.
*shrugs*
I played the multiplayer "beta" a few months ago, and honestly I didn't find the multiplayer anything special. Still, that could be because everyone was voting for the frickin' deathmatch rules instead of the "capture the flag" or "king of the hill"-type rules I prefer. I'm much more looking forward to the singleplayer experience, especially if they've truly fixed the incredibly poor pacing the first game had where you had to dive behind cover and blast away at a seemingly-endless stream of goons every 5 steps so you never got to take in the atmosphere.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 05, 2009, 07:26:43 PM
Sounds like another vastly overrated game is on the horizon, can't wait! Give me Dragon Age over this any day.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 05, 2009, 07:28:19 PM
How is my (obviously) tongue-in-cheek thread title trolling? Read Sessler's review...that's where I pulled it from. I thought the hyperbole might spark some discussion, but apparently it just made people sad.
Like I said, I'm reserving judgement. But more than any other game this generation, Uncharted 2 could actually be worthy of the scores it receives.
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Post by: vudu on October 05, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
How is my (obviously) tongue-in-cheek thread title trolling?
I've never been good at picking up on that sort of thing, especially on a forum where I can't see the presenter's expression or hear their tone of voice, so it wasn't obvious to me.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
Sounds like another vastly overrated game is on the horizon, can't wait! Give me Dragon Age over this any day.
Ugh, just looked at the wikipedia page for that. Dwarfs, mages, paladins, blah blah blah, again?!?
Creak, creak, creak...
I've looked and it has one of the most promising good/evil/inbetween moral system around. Bioware is a pioneer of moral choices and Dragon Age looks to be the best blend of it where you can not only be "good" or "evil" but also benefits from being in between when it comes to story and the way people treat you. One thing that sort of game has lacked is the fact that good people can do "bad" things and vice versa, in this from everything I've read takes that into account so a rational choice won't give you "dark" or "good" points but may impact you realistically in other ways. Also I find it funny that Dragon Age's setting is bad but Uncharted's overall atheistic isn't.
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 05, 2009, 10:18:51 PM
So my coworker is all hyped for this game. Should I slash his tires?
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 05, 2009, 10:19:16 PM
So my coworker is all hyped for this game. Should I slash his tires?
Yes you should.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 05, 2009, 10:45:43 PM
I want to be excited for Dragon Age because I really like Bioware and WRPGs for the most part, but the whole thing just looks sooooooo goddamn generic. They could have at least TRIED to make it something other than straight high fantasy.
Anyway, from the videos I've seen of the first and second game, Uncharted looks pretty solid, and it definitely LOOKS amazing. It seems to be over-the-top action scene after over-the-top action scene punctuated by puzzles, which is pretty neat.
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Post by: bustin98 on October 06, 2009, 12:39:06 AM
I want to play the single player of Uncharted 2. The beta-demo of the multiplayer is so-so. Throwing grenades is a difficult thing to do, even more so in the heat of battle. I found some maps are great, others not so. One in particular was just too large for 10 players. The game looks great and handles fine.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 06, 2009, 02:42:19 AM
I've looked and it has one of the most promising good/evil/inbetween moral system around. Bioware is a pioneer of moral choices and Dragon Age looks to be the best blend of it where you can not only be "good" or "evil" but also benefits from being in between when it comes to story and the way people treat you. One thing that sort of game has lacked is the fact that good people can do "bad" things and vice versa, in this from everything I've read takes that into account so a rational choice won't give you "dark" or "good" points but may impact you realistically in other ways. Also I find it funny that Dragon Age's setting is bad but Uncharted's overall atheistic isn't.
Good and evil still seems too simple compared to e.g. The Witcher.
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Post by: D_Average on October 06, 2009, 03:04:30 AM
If your initial reaction to this is frustration, you are a Nintendo fanboy. At the end of the day you should want to play fantastic games. Who cares what system it comes out on. It's no differnt than the legions of people like Sean Malstrom who champion motion controls but for some odd reason they openly state they want Natal and the Sony wand to fail. Gamers need to grow up. Movie buffs could care less what company releases new movies. They just want them to be good.
That said, if the sequel is anything like the first one, it will certainly live up to the hype. Can't wait!
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 06, 2009, 09:42:44 AM
I wouldn't say that Dragon Age is generic, but I would say that it's yet another entry in a genre that's been done to death.
Meanwhile, the "jungle adventure" sub-genre really hasn't had any worthwhile entries for a long time outside of the Tomb Raider franchise (maybe a couple of Indiana Jones titles, but they're very spotty in terms of quality), so it blows my mind that anybody could dismiss it as generic. Even the first game, while repetitive, was a vastly different experience from anything that I'd played previously because of how all of its elements were so seamlessly blended.
Anybody dismissing this game as a pretty graphics demo really needs to get their head out of the sand.
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 06, 2009, 10:44:12 AM
At the end of the day you should want to play fantastic games. Who cares what system it comes out on.
Someone who doesn't own every single system out there?
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 06, 2009, 10:45:29 AM
This game does sound pretty cool, which is exactly why I'm doing my best to avoid the coverage of it and all other PS3 games. I fear that if I pay attention to them I'll buy a PS3, because there's no real financial reason I can't buy one and I have very little self-control when it comes to buying things that I want.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 06, 2009, 11:18:51 AM
This will likely be the first game that's worth buying a PS3 for. It will TRULY be an experience you can't get elsewhere.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 06, 2009, 11:23:28 AM
Yes, but I have at least a couple dozen unplayed Wii and 360 games sitting here. It doesn't make any practical sense for me to buy a third console when I don't have the time to cover everything on the two I already own. As I've said before, if Sony were to offer real backwards compatibility I don't think I'd be able to resist, but since they aren't going to do that I'm doing my best to remain completely ignorant of the platform to prevent myself from buying one.
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Post by: bustin98 on October 06, 2009, 12:20:19 PM
This will likely be the first game that's worth buying a PS3 for. It will TRULY be an experience you can't get elsewhere.
That's an old and tired argument though. How many times is that said? The original Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2. On and on. I'm not saying that its not true, its just old. Just as with the Gamecube and how these great games came out for it, yet they were ignored.
I would say that if a person hasn't been convinced of the PS3 by now, they never will. Now is just a good time for people who couldn't afford one to get one.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 06, 2009, 12:23:14 PM
I wouldn't say that Dragon Age is generic, but I would say that it's yet another entry in a genre that's been done to death.
Meanwhile, the "jungle adventure" sub-genre really hasn't had any worthwhile entries for a long time outside of the Tomb Raider franchise (maybe a couple of Indiana Jones titles, but they're very spotty in terms of quality), so it blows my mind that anybody could dismiss it as generic. Even the first game, while repetitive, was a vastly different experience from anything that I'd played previously because of how all of its elements were so seamlessly blended.
Anybody dismissing this game as a pretty graphics demo really needs to get their head out of the sand.
Rright, a game that is built around moral choices and consequences that maybe comes out twice a year is overdone compared to the action genre? Not to mention it is created by Naughty Dog who not known for their innovation in game design, they make very good, polished action games, but innovative? Not really, they are good at borrowing elements from other games but that is about it. The one game they made that I truly loved was the first Jak and Daxter, but I wouldn't classify it as innovative, well put together? Yeah.
Uncharted is basically like an action movie with a mixture of different action elements similar to many other games out there (Heck even the CoD series does similar things in regards to mixing things up). Yeah the setting may be different but that is primarily it.Not to mention the fact that people, GASP, may not care much for action games in general, so why should they buy a PS3 for Uncharted?
Also KDR, I believe I said they've addressed the moral consequences thing to make it more realistic. Dragon Age is evolving the genre to new heights, and Bioware is pretty much unmatched when it comes to crafting content based upon your choices.
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Post by: D_Average on October 06, 2009, 02:35:26 PM
I'm suprised with how much fun the multi is on the demo
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Post by: Peachylala on October 06, 2009, 07:58:50 PM
If your initial reaction to this is frustration, you are a Nintendo fanboy. At the end of the day you should want to play fantastic games. Who cares what system it comes out on. It's no differnt than the legions of people like Sean Malstrom who champion motion controls but for some odd reason they openly state they want Natal and the Sony wand to fail. Gamers need to grow up. Movie buffs could care less what company releases new movies. They just want them to be good.
That said, if the sequel is anything like the first one, it will certainly live up to the hype. Can't wait!
Nah, we're just having good ol' dumb fun.
But again, top scores don't always equal the truth. HI MGS4. HI GTA4.
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Post by: broodwars on October 06, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
If your initial reaction to this is frustration, you are a Nintendo fanboy. At the end of the day you should want to play fantastic games. Who cares what system it comes out on. It's no differnt than the legions of people like Sean Malstrom who champion motion controls but for some odd reason they openly state they want Natal and the Sony wand to fail. Gamers need to grow up. Movie buffs could care less what company releases new movies. They just want them to be good.
That said, if the sequel is anything like the first one, it will certainly live up to the hype. Can't wait!
Nah, we're just having good ol' dumb fun.
But again, top scores don't always equal the truth. HI MGS4. HI GTA4.
Indeed, just like Super Mario Galaxy; Super Mario Sunshine; and Mario Kart Doubledash. Like you said, all in good fun. ;)
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Post by: Stogi on October 06, 2009, 08:27:50 PM
So my friend beat the **** out of the first one and returned the used game back to gamestop after he was done for a full refund.
I think it took him 6 hours.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2009, 08:58:11 PM
MKDD wasn't highly rated, and Sunshine spoiled over time like milk.
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Post by: broodwars on October 06, 2009, 09:10:01 PM
MKDD wasn't highly rated, and Sunshine spoiled over time like milk.
Doubledash didn't get the overly-warm reception that the other games listed here got, but I do seem to remember some reviews gushing over it (like EGM's). As for Sunshine, that experience was sour to begin with and over time it just got worse as people slowly realized how we'd all been suckered with such a mediocre game.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
egm
lol
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Post by: vudu on October 06, 2009, 09:18:04 PM
So my friend beat the **** out of the first one and returned the used game back to gamestop after he was done for a full refund.
I think it took him 6 hours.
That's my biggest concern with the game. (Actually, it's my biggest concern with lots of PS3 and 360 titles.) I don't really care about multiplayer so that's not a selling point for me.
If/when I get a PS3 I can see myself buying lots of games used on Amazon and then selling them when I'm finished. It's funny (and off-topic) because that's something I would never do with a Nintendo console. I suppose it's the secret, inner fanboy in me, but I don't really care about having a huge game library of games for non-Nintendo consoles. Anyone else have this problem?
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Post by: Mop it up on October 06, 2009, 10:23:55 PM
I suppose it's the secret, inner fanboy in me, but I don't really care about having a huge game library of games for non-Nintendo consoles. Anyone else have this problem?
Me. I had a Sega Genesis which broke, but instead of replacing it I sold off the games. A similar deal happened with an XBox I had; it was stolen, and instead of buying another I sold the few games still in my position. The only non-Nintendo system I currently have is a PlayStation which I have 15 games for, some of which I plan to sell, and I had quite a few others I've already sold.
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Post by: mac<censored> on October 06, 2009, 11:54:15 PM
So my friend beat the **** out of the first one and returned the used game back to gamestop after he was done for a full refund.
I think it took him 6 hours.
That's my biggest concern with the game. (Actually, it's my biggest concern with lots of PS3 and 360 titles.) I don't really care about multiplayer so that's not a selling point for me.
He's got to be some sort of gaming freak to finish in 6 hours though. Like all linear games, the length is very much limited by the tight connection between the gameplay and the plot, and at least the first uncharted was hardly the longest game around, but it certainly took me a few days (a very enjoyable few days) -- and I immediately started over again because it was so much darn fun. Yes that's right, it's fun!
[They also throw in some sort of treasure collecting and medals for reaching various objectives, to try and up the replay value (whence you can get various abilities like my favorite, super-slow-motion -- go back and fight tough fights feeling like you're keanu reeves in the matrix....), and of course the multi-player is intended to offer even more replayability.]
Anyway, if a game is fun enough, I'll buy it. The modern obsession with long drawn out games is understandable in some ways, but at some point becomes ridiculous; length is only one element among many that makes a game worth buying...
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 07, 2009, 09:39:16 AM
I suppose you could finish it in six hours, but those are a fun six hours. And you could trot out that "It's not long, therefore it sucks" argument for lots of good games, like the original Metal Gear Solid for instance.
As for not getting the experience elsewhere...if you want Killzone or MGS you can play them on other consoles, and you can always play Resistance 1. You could play the first Uncharted, but the sequel is likely to be leaps and bounds better from all accounts. For that matter, I haven't see anything like the first Uncharted anywhere else either.
Yes, there are plenty of "action" games, but that's a pretty broad brush you're using GP. Oh, the RPG genre is so overdone, Dragon Age is just a waste of my time. No, no, I don't care about any of the details, because it's in the RPG genre and that = overdone to me, I'm going to dismiss it out of hand. My "done to death" comment was referring to its setting (high fantasy), not its game genre.
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Post by: Stogi on October 07, 2009, 02:15:13 PM
Just stating what happened. He bought and beat it the same day. It cost him nothing but the cost of gas. Wait no it didn't. He walked to the store. Ok so forget about the gas, it cost him nothing but time to walk there and back twice.
FACTS.
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Post by: D_Average on October 07, 2009, 04:24:33 PM
Just rent it if you're worried about the length. It's not a sin to rent. Usually....
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Post by: Nick DiMola on October 11, 2009, 10:28:41 AM
So I got the review copy of this and I've been playing it nonstop this weekend. It's pretty amazing.
It easily has some of the best storytelling I've seen in a game, and the characters are so emotive and full of life it's actually enjoyable to just sit there and watch the cutscenes and listen to the dialog. I'm on track to beat the game with 10 hours of time invested. While it is on the short side, it's worth noting that it's a rollercoaster 10 hours that features one of the best and most fun sequences I have played in a game in a very long time.
Imagine Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade, and then imagine it as a video game with a bit more shooting and action, and that's Uncharted 2. I haven't played the first one, so I can't compare the two, but I will say this is one of the best titles on the PS3.
If you aren't into the multiplayer, go ahead and rent the game, it's something you can definitely best in a weekend. I have a feeling that I'll go back through the game on the hardest difficulty setting because I am definitely having enough fun the first time through that I'd be interested in playing it again (this is pretty rare for me).
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Post by: broodwars on October 12, 2009, 06:29:52 AM
I guess you can put me up on the list of people playing Uncharted 2 when it comes out. I'm clearing-out my backlog of games I don't think I'm going to get around to finishing or want to keep, and I think I'll have just enough cash for Uncharted 2. I thought about picking up A Boy and His Blob instead, but I'm in something of a shooter mood right now after playing 80+ hours of Persona 4.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on October 12, 2009, 07:12:30 AM
My review will be going up on PixlBit today, but I finished the game yesterday in exactly 10 hrs and 4 mins and it was honestly the perfect length. Right when I felt like I was sick of shooting things, the last section of the game arrived.
Also, there are actually two totally awesome sequences in this game as my play-through last night revealed. I don't know how they thought these particular parts up, but they were masterfully done.
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Post by: D_Average on October 12, 2009, 12:03:41 PM
Ohuh. Must finish Call of Juarez and Klonoa before tomorrow.
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Post by: Halbred on October 12, 2009, 03:01:59 PM
Dammit, Nick.
Now I have to play the Uncharted games. I'm already going broke on Brutal Legend and Batman.
As for the "game to own the system for," it's entirely dependant on the kind of game you like. For me, it's LittleBigPlanet and MGS4. Actually, it WAS MGS4. I bought that game before I owned a system, seriously. I played it on a friend's PS3. The second game I bought was Ratchet & Clank, another series I absolutely adore.
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Post by: D_Average on October 12, 2009, 08:49:46 PM
Now I have to play the Uncharted games. I'm already going broke on Brutal Legend and Batman.
As for the "game to own the system for," it's entirely dependant on the kind of game you like. For me, it's LittleBigPlanet and MGS4. Actually, it WAS MGS4. I bought that game before I owned a system, seriously. I played it on a friend's PS3. The second game I bought was Ratchet & Clank, another series I absolutely adore.
True. For me it was Motorstorm Pacific Rift. Pretty sure I'm the only one that bought the system for it. But considering I've been playing it on a regular basis over the past year, it was money well spent.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 12, 2009, 09:13:30 PM
So the review (http://pixlbit.com/reviews?action=showReview&reviewId=21) just went up if anyone is interested, but I settled on a 5/5. I went back and forth with giving it a 4.5/5, but in reality, this is one of the best games I've played this generation. I'd definitely suggest grabbing this one up if you have the funds. If not, at least rent the damn thing because it's worth the ten hours of your life it'll take you to beat it.
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Post by: D_Average on October 12, 2009, 09:23:51 PM
So the review (http://pixlbit.com/reviews?action=showReview&reviewId=21) just went up if anyone is interested, but I settled on a 5/5. I went back and forth with giving it a 4.5/5, but in reality, this is one of the best games I've played this generation. I'd definitely suggest grabbing this one up if you have the funds. If not, at least rent the damn thing because it's worth the ten hours of your life it'll take you to beat it.
I'm actually not reading any reviews on this one b/c I want to go in completely fresh. When I played the first one, I knew nothing of the title, and I was floored. I'll be sure to check out your review later this week.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on October 12, 2009, 09:34:39 PM
Smart move. I tried to stay as nondescript as possible, because honestly I didn't want to spoil all of the awesome stuff that happens.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 12, 2009, 09:44:31 PM
The game does look a bit more interesting then the first, so I MAY pick it up but I have so much other stuff to play and no doubt Dragon Age will take up most of my time. But I was intrigued by the reviews I read.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 13, 2009, 12:23:35 AM
I barely read anything about the first game and never played it and haven't read anything about this and I'm buying it based on word of mouth. The problem with that is that all I know about the game is that everybody's giving it perfect scores and calling it the best game ever made so I'm likely to be very disappointed.
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Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2009, 07:59:33 PM
Had to get up to use the restroom, not sure if I'll be able to stop myself from finishing tonight.....
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Post by: broodwars on October 13, 2009, 08:03:46 PM
Had to get up to use the restroom, not sure if I'll be able to stop myself from finishing tonight.....
Same here. This game is awesome. I'm amazed at how few treasures I've found so far (I just got caught up with the present), and I have been really looking for them. The gunplay is so much better this time, and hand-to-hand combat is borderline broken it's so effective.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 13, 2009, 09:28:55 PM
Played about a half-hour of this tonight, so I'm not even far into it, but all I can say is...OH. MY. GOODNESS. The gameplay is pretty similar to the first one so far (i.e. awesome), but everything seems taken up a notch. The cutscenes are still just as good...incredibly acted (yes, I say "acted", because the voice actors actually act, and the characters react with emotion) and absolutely riveting.
And the graphics are breathtaking. You'll find yourself sitting back and just admiring the scenery A LOT.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 13, 2009, 09:37:06 PM
Doh! Wife made me stop. So amazing. The integration between cinema and gameplay is almost seemless. I love how it takes awhile to get to the gunplay, I was chomping at the bit this time by the time they really cut you loose. Great flow.
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Post by: broodwars on October 14, 2009, 03:37:00 AM
And that's one full playthrough for me on Normal. Well, that was quite fun and it's obvious I'm going to be playing this game for a while still. It looks like I got just shy of half of all the treasures, something I still find a little bizarre but they are hidden very well. It looks like Naughty Dog fixed most of my complaints: there are only a handful of those obnoxious "goon arenas" this time, the goons are easier to kill, there are more puzzles (including one massive environmental puzzle that would make a certain Persian Prince faint), the game's intensity is pretty massive the whole game, and the game normally keeps you constantly moving to keep things exciting. My only big problem with the game is that...once again...the game dips into the supernatural near the end, and while it's not as lame as it was in Uncharted 1 it still feels sillly. The enemies also get pretty damn annoying near the end, with frequent sections where if you don't take out one hard-to-reach enemy first you will die quickly. Thankfully, if you're good at stealth you can really minimize the monster closets.
Definitely a massive improvement on the original game, and I really want to see Uncharted 3 now.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 14, 2009, 03:40:52 AM
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there are only a handful of those obnoxious "goon arenas"
That makes it much more believable that I'll get it, I really despised the Gears of War style goon areas.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: mac<censored> on October 14, 2009, 06:52:00 AM
It looks like Naughty Dog fixed most of my complaints: there are only a handful of those obnoxious "goon arenas" this time, the goons are easier to kill, ... My only big problem with the game is that...once again...the game dips into the supernatural near the end, and while it's not as lame as it was in Uncharted 1 it still feels sillly.
Hmm, I liked the goon arenas in uncharted 1, and didn't think the enemies were hard at all -- even on "crushing" level! [The stupid jetski sequences were pretty damn annoying on crushing tho...]
I also liked the supernatural thing, and felt it was very very well integrated into the UC1 story -- it slooowly ramped up through hints and glimpses, which made it more creepy.
I'm kinda bummed if UC2 is just a pedestrian "killl some bad guys" game without at least a little other-worldliness and unexpected creepiness to spice it up...
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: broodwars on October 15, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
I've put in some good time with the game and gotten all the treasures, all the weapon-related trophies (including Survivor), and unlocked most of the stuff in the single-player store. I still need to beat the game on Hard and Crushing, as well as completing one competitive and one cooperative multiplayer game. I'm curious whether they'll count losing a cooperative game as "completing" it, considering you can "complete" a competitive multiplayer game and still lose. In any case, this is looking like my first easy Platinum since Prince of Persia, assuming that Hard and Crushing are fairly manageable.
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Post by: D_Average on October 15, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
Man. I really think this is the most visually impressive game I've seen this gen. You can tell this team really knows how to utilize the cube. The textures on that giant puzzle statue with the spot lights just blew me away. And the water and trees in the jungle looked so lucious. I almost gave the screen a Chobot lick.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: kraken613 on October 16, 2009, 02:18:25 PM
This is one of the best games of this generation of consoles, maybe even #1....
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Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on October 17, 2009, 07:27:53 PM
Thanks for the topic title, I needed some laughs.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: broodwars on October 17, 2009, 08:00:36 PM
Just finished the single-player campaign once and for all on Crushing Difficulty and earned my 7th Platinum in the process. Damn that final boss is a monster, as I must have died 2-3 dozen times before I finally hit him with a lucky shot and finished him off. *sighs with relief* Well, I guess that just leaves multiplayer now.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on October 18, 2009, 09:41:43 AM
Wow, someone's actually nuts enough to think the first Uncharted was a better game. I do have problems with the second game's story, but it's still better than the first's by a large margin. And for how "automatic" the platforming is supposed to be, I had a fair bit of trouble with it throughout the second half of the game (especially in Chapter 18).
Incidentally, Lindy, the topic title may have been in jest, but as an experience it may be a fair contender as far as "summer popcorn movie" experiences go.
And btw, I'm now replaying the original Uncharted, now that I've finally finished installing all the updates I need to replay it. -_-'
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: mac<censored> on October 20, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
Wow, someone's actually nuts enough to think the first Uncharted was a better game. I do have problems with the second game's story, but it's still better than the first's by a large margin.
I disagree -- now that I've played through about 90% of Uncharted 2, it's pretty clear that while it's better in some ways, it's basically an incremental improvement over the original Uncharted, and in some ways is clunkier. It's certainly not "nuts" for someone to prefer the first.
While the multiple locations in U2 are a bit more interesting, and the whole Shangrila thing is generally a cooler idea, the plot doesn't really seem remarkably better.
Graphically, U2 is a slight step up in some cases, mainly in the sheer scope of some of the outdoor scenes (the number of polygons they must be moving when you're jumping across roofs in ruined city... although, there's some obvious slowdown as a result). Also the snow is pretty nice looking (though it doesn't feel like snow/ice when you move, since you're often just as agile as you are on dry land).
Gameplay seems more or less the same. I'm rather mystified by some of the comments that claim U2 has improved this or that aspect of gameplay, because for the most part, they seem darn near identical. [E.g. one comment I've seen is that "U2 more naturally incorporates cover, and doesn't have so much of the random-boxes-laying-around-for-cover feel of U1" -- but that doesn't seem true at all, as U2 is absolutely brimming with pointless-and-obviously-for-cover boxes etc.] Ah -- one aspect that really is better in U2 is that stealth and meleeing is a lot easier and more fun, and the game gives you lots of opportunities to make use of it.
The locations in U2 are definitely more interesting due the variety and sheer size of some of them, but the locations in U1 were great too.
The characterization is superb in both of them. I think the extra main characters do add something to U2, and the main U2 villain is a bit better, but the real gem in both cases is the main couple (their relationship seems genuinely sweet and natural). The "creepy" monsters in U1 were really creepy, and there's nothing to equal them in U2 (though the bulk of the enemy hordes are pretty much the same in both).
The dialog is very similar in tone, but the U2 dialogue often doesn't seem to flow as well, and the "humorous" one-liners tend to fall flat a lot more often in U2 than they did in the original.
I think some of the huge set-pieces in U2 feel rather out of place, because they scream "this is a game", instead of "this is a real place, however huge and incredible". Like the giant temple/whatever full of humongous moving gears and stuff that is obviously just silly; it feels like something out of Zelda (such locations fit in Zelda of course). One of the great strengths of the original is that despite the amazing scale and coolness of the locations, they were still plausible in some way, like reality amplified greatly (instead of a pinball-machine amplified greatly). The majority of locations in U2 are like that too, of course, but somehow the ones that don't fit sort of cheapen the experience.
Some of the "improvements" also seem pretty dubious, like the slow-motion-tracer effect I guess is intended to make shooting easier. I dunno, but I had no problems with shooting in the original, and the new effect gives an odd impression, like I'm shooting a nerf gun or something... That kind of thing gives the impression that U2 gameplay was "dumbed down" to a slight degree (which seems silly to me since I had no problem with the original, and I'm a total klutz at playing video games).
Uncharted 2 is still an incredible (and fun!) game of course -- I think my real point is that Uncharted was an incredible game too, and they feel very very similar.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: broodwars on October 20, 2009, 12:39:48 AM
I assume by "slow motion tracer effect" you mean the ripple effect you see when you fire bullets in Zoom Mode? It's a neat effect, but I've never seen it really effect gameplay by boosting my aiming ability. In the end, the shots are still going where I fired the reticule.
As for Uncharted 2's gameplay, as I noted in the podcast talkback thread I think it's dramatically improved over its predecessor through 3 distinct changes:
1. Stealth and melee attacking are actually viable options now. It was almost pointless to use either in the first game, because you'd only kill maybe one guard before the alarm would sound and the tedious arena shootout would begin. In Uncharted 2, if you're good you can easily clear entire rooms with stealth and sidestep the shootouts altogether (and towards the end of the game this is actually quite preferable since you sidestep having to take out RPG and Dragon Sniper-carrying snipers).
2. There are several minor tweaks to the gunplay, such as having a reticule for blind firing so you have some idea where your shots are going to go. I'm playing through Uncharted 1 again right now, and the only weapon worth blind firing is the shotgun and only if your target is at extreme close range. You can also aim and throw grenades without leaving cover and when you jump into cover while running you "slide" into it rather than that snap-on rolling move that felt like your usual roll so you were never sure if you'd land in cover.
3. The enemy AI is dramatically better now. In Uncharted 1, the goons have this seemingly "hive" mentality, where the moment one of them sees you the entire mob knows exactly where you are at all times regardless of if they can actually see you. This meant that flanking is pretty much impossible, though quite common for the CPU. As a result, especially on my current "Crushing" run on Uncharted 1, I'm finding that 90% of the combat is falling back to further and further cover and just trying to bait the AI into exploits. I'm sorry, but that is not fun. In Uncharted 2, once you're spotted the enemy AI knows for a little while where you are. However, if you remain hidden for a period of time they lose that "AI lock-on" status and have to go look for you, and they can also be distracted by your AI teammates. This allows you to flank them as they can you and take them out any way you please. This means that unlike Uncharted 1, you're often pushing the offensive.
These are seemingly all minor tweaks, but in my opinion they vastly improve the gameplay experience.
That said, though, I also thought the "clock" ruins were absurd. They're pretty blatantly Prince of Persia, as throughout the level I often muttered to myself "who in their right minds would build a temple like this?!" I'm not fond of this game's supernatural element, either, and Shamballa isn't terribly interesting.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 20, 2009, 01:10:36 AM
I assume by "slow motion tracer effect" you mean the ripple effect you see when you fire bullets in Zoom Mode? It's a neat effect, but I've never seen it really effect gameplay by boosting my aiming ability. In the end, the shots are still going where I fired the reticule.
As for Uncharted 2's gameplay, as I noted in the podcast talkback thread I think it's dramatically improved over its predecessor through 3 distinct changes:
1. Stealth and melee attacking are actually viable options now. It was almost pointless to use either in the first game, because you'd only kill maybe one guard before the alarm would sound and the tedious arena shootout would begin. In Uncharted 2, if you're good you can easily clear entire rooms with stealth and sidestep the shootouts altogether (and towards the end of the game this is actually quite preferable since you sidestep having to take out RPG and Dragon Sniper-carrying snipers).
2. There are several minor tweaks to the gunplay, such as having a reticule for blind firing so you have some idea where your shots are going to go. I'm playing through Uncharted 1 again right now, and the only weapon worth blind firing is the shotgun and only if your target is at extreme close range. You can also aim and throw grenades without leaving cover and when you jump into cover while running you "slide" into it rather than that snap-on rolling move that felt like your usual roll so you were never sure if you'd land in cover.
3. The enemy AI is dramatically better now. In Uncharted 1, the goons have this seemingly "hive" mentality, where the moment one of them sees you the entire mob knows exactly where you are at all times regardless of if they can actually see you. This meant that flanking is pretty much impossible, though quite common for the CPU. As a result, especially on my current "Crushing" run on Uncharted 1, I'm finding that 90% of the combat is falling back to further and further cover and just trying to bait the AI into exploits. I'm sorry, but that is not fun. In Uncharted 2, once you're spotted the enemy AI knows for a little while where you are. However, if you remain hidden for a period of time they lose that "AI lock-on" status and have to go look for you, and they can also be distracted by your AI teammates. This allows you to flank them as they can you and take them out any way you please. This means that unlike Uncharted 1, you're often pushing the offensive.
These are seemingly all minor tweaks, but in my opinion they vastly improve the gameplay experience.
And would definitely agree with those three and also add the lack of bullet sponges as a huge improvement. Man, I'm loving this game. Just finished the sequence of jumping from car to car after finally hitting the tank w/ an RPG. Only 4 chapters left, I'd say its definitely a good length as some games (GTA4) just go on too long. I also finished Infamous recently, and I'm having three times as much fun w/ this game. There were just too many missions in Infamous that felt identical, though it was still a great game.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 21, 2009, 03:33:46 PM
Uncharted 2 has supernatural elements.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 21, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
the lack of bullet sponges as a huge improvement. Man, I'm loving this game.
What do you by "bullet sponges"?
If you mean enemies that can take lots of hits before dying, I never noticed any particular problem with that U1 (on "crushing" level, of course, the real problem was that you could only take a few hits before dying).
U2 does have the shield guys, and worse, those guys wearing body armor (where with most weapons, the only way to even scratch them is to first shoot off their helmet with one headshot, and then kill them with a second headshot). I find the armored guys really annoying, because if they close in on your position they're very hard to take out before they kill you.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 22, 2009, 11:05:44 AM
Bullet sponges are those dudes in Un 1 that take 30 hits wearing just a wife beater. It hought the new armor was a nice touch for stategy.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: mac<censored> on October 23, 2009, 09:57:59 PM
Finished Uncharted 2 a few days ago, and ... man, what a stupid ending.
Most of the game is impressive and fun tho.
(spoilers) Not only was it way too easy (on normal difficulty), but just seemed ... abrupt, underwhelming, and almost offensive -- they destroyed freakin' Shangri-La (with a single bullet?!) as if it were a random alien base in a random xbox FPS! And afterwards, the characters don't even seem to have noticed, it's just a few (very lame) jokes and fini; it was like the ending to an episode of Scooby-Doo, only more distasteful.
It seems kinda clear they ran out of time and just tacked on the ending.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: D_Average on October 29, 2009, 06:47:18 PM
Finished Uncharted 2 a few days ago, and ... man, what a stupid ending.
Most of the game is impressive and fun tho.
(spoilers) Not only was it way too easy (on normal difficulty), but just seemed ... abrupt, underwhelming, and almost offensive -- they destroyed freakin' Shangri-La (with a single bullet?!) as if it were a random alien base in a random xbox FPS! And afterwards, the characters don't even seem to have noticed, it's just a few (very lame) jokes and fini; it was like the ending to an episode of Scooby-Doo, only more distasteful.
It seems kinda clear they ran out of time and just tacked on the ending.
I can see that, but considering (spoilers) the whole game from the very beginning, was about beating Blizarobitz to the stone and then destroying everything, I thought it made sense. Certainly more sense than the ending to the first game with zombies crawling out of nowhere. And it definately was a long strange trip to get to the stone once we arrived at the entrance, so I was satisfied once it was over. Also, the final fight with him was creative.
What I did think was an achievement was I actually wanted Elena not to die at the end and was revealed to see her walk out, even though I knew it was coming. Not a perfect story by any means, but still a major step forward in meshing gaming and stories.
I agree on the difficulty, which is why I just started a new game on hard right after. But for casuals, normal will kick their a##, which is probably why hard is available from the beginning.
Unrelated, if you guys were Drake, who would you take, Elena or Chloe? I'd go Elena. Sweeter and hawt in her own way. Plus Chloes has a muscley butt.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: mac<censored> on October 29, 2009, 08:40:29 PM
Unrelated, if you guys were Drake, who would you take, Elena or Chloe?
Elena every time -- sweetly sarcastic and smart, pretty, and strong in a way that says "determined and capable" rather than "I've got a metal rod up my ass." Every once in a while, a little vulnerable and girly, but never so much as to be annoying.
Elena is clearly channelling Helen Hunt if you ask me... (and this has got to be intentional -- voice, mannerisms, and appearance are a dead ringer; it was quite disconcerting seeing the making-of videos, since the actress looks nothing like HH, but sounds exactly like her)
Now that I think about it, Elena's character is amazingly well written and acted for a video game, given the usual tendency towards walking stereotypes. The other main characters in Uncharted are not so bad (better than most games), but she seems by far the most real person in the whole game.
Title: Re: Who is going to buy a PS3 Slim?
Post by: Halbred on November 09, 2009, 02:28:05 PM
Well, I'm about to beat Uncharted 2 (I think). Generally, I love this game. However, there have been some real thorn-in-my-side moments that keep me from giving it the kind of marks it's been getting in the gaming media.
First off, there are MORE firefights here than there were in the first game, and they're more annoying because the enemies are much more powerful and numerous. Oh look! THREE armored dudes with shotguns! There have also been some phenomenally frustrating sections of the game, like the tank chase and middle sections of the train. If I'm not getting knocked off by dudes with shotguns, I'm literally getting knocked off by randomly-placed barriers.
I stoped playing last night after getting to yet another setpiece firefight in Shambalah because I got sick of shooting dudes. However, I think I am toward the end of the game.
Title: Re: Who is going to buy a PS3 Slim?
Post by: D_Average on November 09, 2009, 02:52:59 PM
Are you playing on hard? I thought the armored guys were a solid addition. They reminded me of giant enemy crabs. Fun to blow back with the right gun.
Title: Re: Who is going to buy a PS3 Slim?
Post by: broodwars on November 09, 2009, 02:54:57 PM
Well, I'm about to beat Uncharted 2 (I think). Generally, I love this game. However, there have been some real thorn-in-my-side moments that keep me from giving it the kind of marks it's been getting in the gaming media.
First off, there are MORE firefights here than there were in the first game, and they're more annoying because the enemies are much more powerful and numerous. Oh look! THREE armored dudes with shotguns! There have also been some phenomenally frustrating sections of the game, like the tank chase and middle sections of the train. If I'm not getting knocked off by dudes with shotguns, I'm literally getting knocked off by randomly-placed barriers.
I stoped playing last night after getting to yet another setpiece firefight in Shambalah because I got sick of shooting dudes. However, I think I am toward the end of the game.
Huh, I found the shoot-outs a great deal more manageable in Uncharted 2 than in its predecessor, mainly because I liked to flank enemies and snap their necks (or avoid the massive shoot-outs altogether by just stealth-killing everyone in a given room). There are some incredibly frustrating sections of some stages (the entirety of Chapter 15, large portions of the train levels, and various goon arenas in the last 1/3 of the game), but for the most part you have a lot of flexibility in how you deal with them. As for the armored shotgun troops, I usually just chuck a few grenades at them. The key to dealing with the shootouts is isolation and constantly moving to prevent getting flanked.
Title: Re: Who is going to buy a PS3 Slim?
Post by: Halbred on November 09, 2009, 03:25:27 PM
They're more managable, sure, but there are so freaking many shootouts it just gets old.
I think it's my own problem: I keep expecting Tomb Raider: Underworld instead of Gears of War.
Title: Re: Who is going to buy a PS3 Slim?
Post by: broodwars on November 09, 2009, 05:04:17 PM
They're more managable, sure, but there are so freaking many shootouts it just gets old.
I think it's my own problem: I keep expecting Tomb Raider: Underworld instead of Gears of War.
I think this problem was actually far worse in the first Uncharted, where you couldn't take 5 steps without a massive arena shootout. I knew from playing the first Uncharted that this series will never go full-on Tomb Raider/Prince of Persia-style exploration/platforming (no matter how much the series teases it), so I wasn't the least bit surprised when the sequel didn't do it either. I personally think the series would be far better if there was less gunplay and more exploration; platforming; and puzzles (for pacing's sake at least), but it's clear that Naughty Dog has found their formula and they're not leaving it.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: mac<censored> on November 15, 2009, 08:23:38 PM
One thing I found kind of funny was one of the shootouts near the end, where you're with both the female partners (in some sort of indoor "arena" like area with a sort of big statue thing in the middlee). I was in a good safe position on top of the entry staircase, but ... I ran out of ammo (that's the problem with shooting from a safe location, it's often hard to stay stocked up)!
My two partners kept shooting like crazy (I guess they never run out), but they never, ever, seemed to kill anybody, and the bad guys just kept pouring in... do shots from your partners actually have any effect? Or, do they wound but not kill? I seriously waited like 30 minutes (used the bathroom, cooked a snack, ...) while my partners were just pumping endless shots into the mass of bad guys (only some of who were armored), and as far as I could tell, not a single one died. [This is very different than Uncharted 1, where often you could just hide and let your partner kill everybody!]
[I eventually gave up and started running down into the mass of baddies to grab ammo (and then back to the hidey-hole), but it took me forever to clear that area...]
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 15, 2009, 11:07:27 PM
I'm pretty sure they kill. Rarely, but they do. I think you may have to shoot the enemy first, which allows them to finish it off.
Finished it tonight. Great game, one of the best I've ever played for sure. Storytelling is top-notch, the characters are great (it was actually good to see very little of Sully, I always thought he was kind of a weak character), and there were a lot of CRAZY set pieces in there.
Like a good action movie, I had grown so attached to the characters by the end that I was sad to see the story come to a close. I can't wait for Uncharted 3.
I would have liked to have seen some more background on Lazaravich, though. I felt like he was kind of a token bad guy, like he was just plucked out of the air to be "the final boss". His character had no depth whatsoever.
My run through on Normal only netted me 65 treasures, and I know I missed one. I spent a ton of time looking for them all, so where the hell are the rest? Do they only show up on Hard/Crushing or something?
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: broodwars on November 15, 2009, 11:11:07 PM
I'm pretty sure they kill. Rarely, but they do. I think you may have to shoot the enemy first, which allows them to finish it off.
My run through on Normal only netted me 65 treasures, and I know I missed one. I spent a ton of time looking for them all, so where the hell are the rest? Do they only show up on Hard/Crushing or something?
I've seen the side characters kill enemies, but you must have to hit them at least once before they can because I've never seen a side character take one out on their own.
As for the treasures, look up. Most of the ones I missed my first time through were hanging on objects above your line of sight. Like in Resident Evil 4, you have to shoot them to make them fall down to where you can grab them. Others are just plain well-hidden.
And yes, Lazarovitch was token at best, though at least not as badly as the boss of the first Uncharted (which literally comes out of nowhere).
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: NWR_Lindy on November 15, 2009, 11:14:15 PM
Yeah, the boss of the first Uncharted is a guy you see once, period. I think you maybe see him once through the course of the game, if that.
Also, if anybody's wondering, the longest that any cutscene is in U2 is 5 minutes. There's maybe 2 or 3 of that length, and the rest are all 4 minutes or less. Very briskly-paced game, and like Nick I felt that it was pretty much the perfect length. Just as the gun battles were starting to drag, it wrapped up.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: D_Average on November 17, 2009, 12:20:40 AM
Yeah, Lazarovitch didn't have much depth, but definitely more of an intimating presence then the first bad guy.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: Traveller on June 06, 2011, 04:29:32 AM
I know this was discussed on RFN some time ago. But, do you guys think its better to play Uncharted 1 first? I ask, because I will be picking up a PS3 soon, and the current deal comes with 5 games, one of those being Uncharted 2. Should I pick up the first one aswell, or dont bother?
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: Dasmos on June 06, 2011, 08:18:20 AM
The first one is good, and is often unfairly overlooked in favour to Among Theives. It's still one of the best games on the PS3, but it's not as great as Uncharted 2. Put it this way, I wouldn't recommend playing it as strongly after Uncharted 2.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: Halbred on June 06, 2011, 04:13:12 PM
It's okay, and it has some beautiful set-pieces, but knowing what I know now, I'd skip Uncharted 1 and go right to 2. Aside from Elena's presence, you don't really need to know ANYTHING about the first game going into the second one. These are like the Indiana Jones movies--you can watch them in any order and still enjoy them.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: blackfootsteps on June 06, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
The first one is good, and is often unfairly overlooked in favour to Among Theives. It's still one of the best games on the PS3, but it's not as great as Uncharted 2. Put it this way, I wouldn't recommend playing it as strongly after Uncharted 2.
I agree with this. I really enjoyed the jungle heavy environments of the first game. It should be really cheap, too.
Title: Re: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves Official Best Single-Player Game Ever Thread
Post by: mac<censored> on June 08, 2011, 08:36:53 PM
The first one is good, and is often unfairly overlooked in favour to Among Theives. It's still one of the best games on the PS3, but it's not as great as Uncharted 2. Put it this way, I wouldn't recommend playing it as strongly after Uncharted 2.
It's a hard decision -- they were both absolutely awesome games.
I think on balance, I maybe actually preferred the first uncharted though. Hmm... possible reasons:
(1) I really, really, liked the half-submerged huge ruined jungle-city environment of U1. The environments in U2 were gorgeous and often interesting, but somehow didn't seem as compelling. Maybe that's because U2 kept shuttling you around between widely separated locations so much, meaning there was much less sense of being in one enormous place, and less sense of "exploring" (U1, while it actually forced you along a pretty linear path, did a great job of giving the impression of exploring the ruins). [Shangri-la in U2 was wonderful, but way underused -- I wish they would have simply set the whole game there! -- and I was actually pretty pissed that they simply blew it up in the end... followed by a lame wisecrack!]
(2) The baddies at the end of U1 were awesomely creepy and scary, there was nothing really like them in U2 (it was all "waves of canon fodder").
But of course, those are quibbles -- U2 was a crazy cool game too.
