Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Spinnzilla on March 24, 2009, 05:20:23 PM
Title: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 24, 2009, 05:20:23 PM
since the service has pretty much been confirmed:
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Nintendo called Kombo up today and requested that it be known that some of the above information is not officially announced for North America and as a result, may not be completely accurate.
Specifically, they told us that you will not be able to play GB and GBA games directly from your SD memory card. Also, downloadable GB and GBA games have not officially been announced for North America (only Japan, so far).
Nintendo is holding their GDC 2009 key note speech tomorrow. Expect to be informed of the complete capabilities of DSi tomorrow. As always, Kombo will keep you updated.
what 5 games do you most want on the service?
1. Pokemon Silver 2. Metroid 2 3. Advance Wars 4. Pokemon Blue 5. Metroid Fussion (my copy is teh broken)
Special mention: Golden Sun, never played it but heard really good things about it.
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Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 05:31:07 PM
Shantae would be nice to play so we could see how good it really is.
I'd rather they remade the Gold and Silver similar to what they did with FireRed and Leaf Green (or even better all new games that allowed you to catch the monsters from G/S/C). I want the games to be compatible with the current sets and as we have seen in the past, VC titles don't get overhauls like this.
Special mention: Golden Sun, never played it but heard really good things about it.
It's not all that special so don't worry, your not missing much. The only reason you've heard good things is because it was a launch title and early pickings on the GBA were pretty slim.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 24, 2009, 06:22:05 PM
My number one most wanted game would be Mario Tennis for the GBC. I'd also like to see Donkey Kong '94, the Zelda Oracle games, and the Game & Watch Gallery series.
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 24, 2009, 06:59:15 PM
Special mention: Golden Sun, never played it but heard really good things about it.
It's not all that special so don't worry, your not missing much. The only reason you've heard good things is because it was a launch title and early pickings on the GBA were pretty slim.
Oh hell that game... It ended like 1/3rd into the story.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2009, 08:12:26 PM
Though I know it will never happen, I want to see FaceBall 2000 because other people need to experience the awesomity of that game. Interestingly, it had 16-player multiplayer long before the advent of the online gaming system...
Metroid 2 is the worst game in the series by far. I actually don't think I would mind a remake of that game even if all it did was colourize the game, add a map, and require less missiles to beat the final enemy.
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Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 08:45:50 PM
Though I know it will never happen, I want to see FaceBall 2000 because other people need to experience the awesomity of that game. Interestingly, it had 16-player multiplayer long before the advent of the online gaming system...
Metroid 2 is the worst game in the series by far. I actually don't think I would mind a remake of that game even if all it did was colourize the game, add a map, and require less missiles to beat the final enemy.
I always wanted Faceball solely for the 16-player aspect. I'm thinking a new version as a DSi app could have severely awesome potential if you could include both local Wi-Fi and online features.
I just got Metroid 2 off of eBay and played it for a small bit, but I'm holding off on really playeing it until it wins RetroActive so I can play along.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 24, 2009, 08:54:27 PM
FaceBall. Heh.
Metroid 2 is a pretty awesome game.
Of course, my list would look something like this: 1.) The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 2.) The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 3.) The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 4.) The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening 5.) The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX
Here's my two questions regarding this - Will we get multi-player support? If so, I'd love to see Four Swords re-released (actually a DSiWare version would be better).
Also... why isn't anyone talking about Game Gear games? :)
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Post by: Adrock on March 24, 2009, 08:54:52 PM
Virtual Boy Wario Land.
No, it's not for GB/GBA, it's the only "portable" game I don't have that I'd care to buy through this service (and it'll save me $70+ on ebay). Otherwise, I'll stick with new downloadable games... Of course, if Nintendo were to get Sega to jump on board with Game Gear games, specifically the ones that Sega never brought to North America which were like, what, all of the good/interesting ones (namely Phantasy Star Gaiden), I'd be at least... okay, not that much more interested, but a little more interested.
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Post by: Adrock on March 24, 2009, 08:55:39 PM
Also... why isn't anyone talking about Game Gear games? :)
Funny that you say that.... :)
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Post by: UncleBob on March 24, 2009, 09:00:18 PM
Too slow. :P
Ever since people were talking about a downloadable service for the DS including GB/GBC/GBA titles, I always thought it was a little odd no one suggested any other portable systems...
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Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 09:14:42 PM
Ever since people were talking about a downloadable service for the DS including GB/GBC/GBA titles, I always thought it was a little odd no one suggested any other portable systems...
I think it's because we are taking it step by step. Since the DSi was announced we hope that they include a VC service for old Nintendo games. Once that is confirmed then we move on to clamoring for non-Nintendo systems. People demanding other systems will grow as we increase our understanding of what this service is going to entail.
Besides, aren't the Master System and the Game Gear considered one and the same on the VC? Like the Master system Sonic game is actually the same as the Game Gear one? That's the impression I got from people on other sites when the first Sonic on Master System came out.
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Post by: Adrock on March 24, 2009, 09:18:40 PM
The only one that's worth a second look is Game Gear since GBC/GBA slaughtered the Wonderswan and Neo Geo Pocket and neither of which had that many terribly interesting games. The only games that I recall having any interest in on WS were the Final Fantasy remakes which are on everything now. FF I and II have been remade twice since then (well, I guess the GBA versions were WS ports). I am somewhat interested in Sonic Pocket Adventure.
Honestly, this service doesn't intrigued me too much. Before GBA, a vast majority of the more memorable portable games were made by Nintendo and I already have the ones I want. If I ever felt an itch of nostalgia, I can break out the old SP and go nuts. Anyone who missed Link's Awakening should buy that day one. It was well ahead of its time and I'm still amazed that Nintendo somehow made that game on the original brick Gameboy.
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Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 09:39:52 PM
The only one that's worth a second look is Game Gear since GBC/GBA slaughtered the Wonderswan and Neo Geo Pocket and neither of which had that many terribly interesting games. The only games that I recall having any interest in on WS were the Final Fantasy remakes which are on everything now. FF I and II have been remade twice since then (well, I guess the GBA versions were WS ports). I am somewhat interested in Sonic Pocket Adventure.
Honestly, this service doesn't intrigued me too much. Before GBA, a vast majority of the more memorable portable games were made by Nintendo and I already have the ones I want. If I ever felt an itch of nostalgia, I can break out the old SP and go nuts. Anyone who missed Link's Awakening should buy that day one. It was well ahead of its time and I'm still amazed that Nintendo somehow made that game on the original brick Gameboy.
Yeah, I loved Link's Awakening. That is by far my favorite Zelda game. I love the Ballad of the Windfish.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on March 24, 2009, 10:10:33 PM
Link's Awakening is easily my favorite Zelda, and to this day remains one of the greatest games I have ever played.
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Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 10:12:27 PM
Did you get to play the DX version with the extra dungeon at all?
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Post by: KnowsNothing on March 25, 2009, 12:11:51 AM
Indeed I did play the DX version, and would recommend it over the original primarily because it's in color, not for the extra dungeon really :P
For the uninitiated, the extra dungeon is a rather underwhelming affair that occurs only after the main adventure has already been completed. You are rewarded with a choice between two pretty nifty items a blue tunic that halves the damage you take or a red tunic that double the damage you give but since the game is already over they're really just for funsies.
It's been years of course, and I don't really remember the extra dungeon all that well...I *think* it was just a few rooms of color based gimmicks, but I'm not positive...I played the main game many times, but only that dungeon once haha.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 25, 2009, 12:36:15 AM
It's been a while since I played Link's Awakening, but I'm pretty sure you can access the Doungeon of Colour long before you beat the game. If I remember right, here's how you can open it: After you get the running shoes, you can go to the library and dash into a bookcase to cause the book on the top to fall. It will tell you the order in which you need to move the headstones in the graveyard to access the dungeon.
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Post by: Stratos on March 25, 2009, 01:34:34 AM
All this Link's Awakening talk makes me want to play it again. I think it is on the RetroActive list so I hope it comes up soon. >That's a hint to bump it up the list if you read this, Jonny! ;)
One thing that I notice a lot of 'Zelda retrospective/timelines' miss is that Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to Link to the Past. It is explained as such in the games manual which I still have somewhere. Though removing that I have heard a good thought that it takes place while Link is sleeping during his time trapped in the Temple of Time in Ocarina.
I really can't think of many other GB/C/A games that I would like to see on the service that I don't already own.
Maybe the Donkey Kong Lands since I never got the second or third ones. The Wario Lands I completely missed.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 25, 2009, 09:19:29 AM
It's been a while since I played Link's Awakening, but I'm pretty sure you can access the Doungeon of Colour long before you beat the game. If I remember right, here's how you can open it: After you get the running shoes, you can go to the library and dash into a bookcase to cause the book on the top to fall. It will tell you the order in which you need to move the headstones in the graveyard to access the dungeon.
Sorta what he said- You can enter the dungeon as long as: A.)You have the power bracelet (needed to move the tombstones). B.)You are alone (Game gives you a message and refuses entry if you're with BowWow, Marin or the Ghost). C.)You're playing on a GameBoy Color/Advance/Player.
Basically, after you complete level 2, as you get the power bracelet in Level 2, but you're attached to BowWow until you complete the level.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on March 25, 2009, 11:12:18 AM
I see...in that case, the items are a little more useful! Of course, I still wouldn't have used the items during the course of the game since they would have given me an unfair advantage :)
OH YEAH. I was reminded of this by the 2008 Talkback thread, of all places...MARIO KART SUPER CIRCUIT.
Of course, with MKDS out with true 3D courses and wireless/online muliplayer I can see why people would hesitate to buy this, but in my opinion no other Mario Kart has been able to surpass this installment. The courses are brilliant despite being completely flat, the controls are spot on, and the item balancing the most fair of any iteration of the series. Plus it has coins.
COINS
Also the music is fantastic.
best game
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Post by: Stratos on March 25, 2009, 04:03:57 PM
I'd get Super Circuit.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 25, 2009, 07:44:10 PM
Want my copy? I was about to flush it down the toilet with the rest of my crap.
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Post by: Stratos on March 25, 2009, 07:50:49 PM
Is that a real offer or just a joke because I'd take it.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on March 25, 2009, 08:05:48 PM
1)Mario Land 2)Mario Land 2: The 7 Coins 3)The Legend of Zelda DX 4)Metroid 2 5)Final Fantasy Adventure
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Post by: Spak-Spang on March 25, 2009, 08:09:17 PM
I think you can open the extra dungeon after beating either the second or third dungeon in the game.
You get an awesome choice of either defense or offense after beating the dungeon, which is a very gimmicky dungeon based on color, but still fun.
My only problem is the extra dungeon done ahead of time can make the game too easy...specially if you take the defensive item which basically gives you twice the hearts...
What is nice is you can re-enter the dungeon and switch items at any time, which allows you to play with both. A very cool bonus.
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Post by: Halbred on March 25, 2009, 08:09:53 PM
I'd like to see some old GB games, but only those that work within their graphical limits. No Donkey Kong Land, for instance.
1) Super Mario Land 2) Link's Awakening DX 3) Boomer's Adventure in Asmik Land 4) Metroid 2: Return of Samus 5) Kirby's Blockball OR Kirby's Pinball (or both)
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Post by: Mop it up on March 25, 2009, 08:10:56 PM
I assume you mean Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins?
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Post by: KnowsNothing on March 25, 2009, 08:56:24 PM
I once saw Mop_it_up punch a kitten in the throat. Just saying.
:(
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Post by: Mop it up on March 25, 2009, 09:01:59 PM
I hate cats. So unclean. They never bathe, they just... lick themselves. Yeah, that works just as well as soap, sure. That's why every species does it.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on March 25, 2009, 10:17:22 PM
Yes that is what I meant Uncle Bob.
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Post by: vudu on March 26, 2009, 05:35:04 PM
My top 5:
1) Rhythm Tengoku 2) Oracle of Seasons 3) Oracle of Ages 4) Donkey Kong 94 5) Wario Land 2
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 26, 2009, 06:46:57 PM
I missed out on Donkey Kong 94 and all the Wario Land games, so I want those above all else. I might be willing to go for Advance Wars, which was unavailable by the time I discovered the series (I bought AW2 for ten bucks on a whim just to be able to use a coupon).
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Post by: Adrock on March 26, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
Wario Land 2 was the really good one. Wario Land 3 is basically just Wario Land 2 in color with a really stupid soccer inspired boss. And shame on you for missing DK94.
I'd be more interested in the Final Fantasy Legend series if Square Enix wasn't already remaking the second one which will likely lead to them just remaking the other 2.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 26, 2009, 08:59:27 PM
Wario Land 3 is basically just Wario Land 2 in colour
Um... Wario Land 2 DX is Wario Land 2 in colour.
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I'd be more interested in the Final Fantasy Legend series if Square Enix weren't already remaking the second one which will likely lead to them just remaking the other 2.
With the Final Fantasy Legend games I'd say remaking them is the better option, as they are far too primitive to be of much worth today. If they rewrite the story (or rather, actually write a story) and cut down on the level grinding required, they might actually become decent games.
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Post by: Adrock on March 26, 2009, 10:12:19 PM
Come on, really? Does this really need to be explained? Wario Land 3 plays exactly the same as Wario Land 2. It loses points for its complete lack of originality.
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With the Final Fantasy Legend games I'd say remaking them is the better option, as they are far too primitive to be of much worth today. If they rewrite the story (or rather, actually write a story) and cut down on the level grinding required, they might actually become decent games.
So, basically, if they made an entirely different game.
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Post by: Stratos on March 26, 2009, 10:28:11 PM
Come on, really? Does this really need to be explained? Wario Land 3 plays exactly the same as Wario Land 2. It loses points for its complete lack of originality.
And yet we are clamoring for new versions of Mario Brothers 3, Mario World and other classic games. Or are you one of the poeple who isn't clamoring, I don't remember.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 26, 2009, 10:34:30 PM
I've never played Wario Land 3 so I don't know what it's like, just pointing out that Wario Land 2 is in colour.
And yet we are clamoring for new versions of Mario Brothers 3, Mario World and other classic games. Or are you one of the poeple who isn't clamoring, I don't remember.
Wario Land 3 was just Wario Land 2 Part 2. No innovation, no new ideas. I'm not satisfied with simply playing new levels of existing games. I mean, I played them, but I don't feel the same passion or excitement. Any new version of a classic game would absolutely need to push the concept further and innovate while still remaining fun with the hope of surpassing what came before.
I only give the Final Fantasy Legend series a second look since I never played them. When it comes to this service, I would only consider buying a game I never played or played very little of, but don't own. That said, I really don't need to at this point seeing as Square Enix is already remaking what is considered the best of the 3 for DS. Honestly, I'd rather try that if anything.
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Post by: rbtr on March 27, 2009, 02:57:20 AM
Saying Wario Land 3 is the same as 2 is a pretty big overstatement. 2 was set up with branching paths, but there was no telling which path you were taking. 3 had a dynamic overworld, that had you fetching items that would affect older levels, and a (mostly) linear progression. I'd say they are 2 pretty unique games in there own ways. It's not a Super Mario lost levels situation where it's some sort of map pack.
Yes they use the same engine, but they each have their own unique flavor. The whole series is worth playing, it's still fairly young (Wario Land shake it being the 5th installment[or 6th if you count the virtual boy]) and its interesting to see where its heading.
I personally preferred 3 to 2, it plays a little better. 4 was my favorite though, and I would like to see it as I have lost my copy.
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Post by: Stratos on March 27, 2009, 03:01:12 PM
All this talk of the Virtual Boy Warioland makes me want to break out the old VB and give it a play again.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2009, 07:36:26 PM
Wario World doesn't count as a part of the Wario series? That game is all kinds of awesome, and even though it isn't a sidescroller, well, it is actually sort of still set up like one. It may not be two-dimensional but it has the same spirit of the 2D games.
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Post by: Stratos on March 28, 2009, 03:14:16 AM
Wario World doesn't count as a part of the Wario series? That game is all kinds of awesome, and even though it isn't a sidescroller, well, it is actually sort of still set up like one. It may not be two-dimensional but it has the same spirit of the 2D games.
That might be a good RetroActive nomination right there. It wasn't well received in my opinion even though Treasure made it and they are known for good games. I remember deciding to pass on it back then because it didn't have a co-op option with Waluigi. Imagine it with Wario-Waluigi co-op brawling goodness.
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Post by: rbtr on March 28, 2009, 03:22:10 AM
I don't count it, the emphasis on exploration isn't as prevalent, and the fighting is a big focus. I also don't count Master of Disguise, and I don't think it counted itself either. It could be argued, but it's wario WORLD not wario land: brawl or some such. Unlike the Mario series where "super" ties the main games together, there are only 5 (or 6 with the VB depending on how you feel about it) wario LAND games, and they are all awesome.
I do like Wario World though, it's a good game and very underrated.
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Post by: Stratos on March 28, 2009, 03:25:26 AM
Then I'm glad I nominated it for RetroActive. You should go second my nomination to hopefully convince Jonny to put it on the list for the next poll, rbtr.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 28, 2009, 04:54:38 AM
But it isn't the "Wario Land" series, it is just the "Wario" series as it is the "Mario" series. Super Mario 64 plays far differently than any Mario game which came before it, yet it is still a part of the Mario series. Wario World has its differences but it very much feels like a Wario Land game in 3D, and that seems to give it more merit as a mainline Wario game than any word in the title ever could.
Stratos, it seems you keep coming up with different games to nominate for the RetroActive. Shouldn't you find just one to pick and rally behind? Also I literally just beat Wario World yesterday and I don't know if I'd want to play it again so soon.
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Post by: rbtr on March 28, 2009, 12:47:12 PM
I disagree, I don't really think it plays like a warioland game in 3d, it's not even "3-d" unless you think double dragon is in "3-d". This is getting off track though SO...
I'd like to see:
A boy and his blob, just to play it Final Fantasy Adventure, so I won't have to worry about the battery in my copy dying Kirby's Star stacker, because it's awesome Revenge of the Gator, best pinball game ever And if import games ever become a reality, I would love to see X, the first game boy game with 3-d graphics.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 28, 2009, 04:28:23 PM
Width? Check. Height? Check. Depth? Check. Three dimensions.
Final Fantasy Adventure was apparently remade as "Sword of Mana" on the Game Boy Advance, but I don't know how different it really is since I haven't played it. Yet.
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Post by: rbtr on March 28, 2009, 05:08:28 PM
Yeah, just like double dragon. I dunno, I guess a big expansive 3-d world would have been way cooler to see for wario considering the treasure hunting aspect, and Wario world feels sort of stilted and stiff because it's still pretty much "move to the right". Some levels eventually branched out and so forth, but I always wanted more. I think that the wario games get Nintendo's "b" effort to much.
I felt they really botched Sword of Mana, the game play was mostly the same, but they needlessly embellished the plot and turned it into a pretty standard Jrpg affair with whiny lead characters. "But we can't kill the dark lord he deserves to live!" Wherein the original there was no questions, simply killing. Plus they took out the chocobo! Honestly though, it's probably much better than the original, but I have strong memories tied to the original.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 28, 2009, 11:50:37 PM
And if import games ever become a reality, I would love to see X, the first game boy game with 3-d graphics.
X was released in Japan in 1992. FaceBall 2000 was released in 1991.
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Post by: rbtr on March 29, 2009, 01:01:23 AM
I am shamed.... :-[
BTW, uncle bob, could you take me under your wing in the ways of gameboy fandom? Did you know that the NES and the original Game Boy use the same size buttons? Try it! I know you've got a tri wing screwdriver...
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Post by: Stratos on March 29, 2009, 03:25:54 AM
Stratos, it seems you keep coming up with different games to nominate for the RetroActive. Shouldn't you find just one to pick and rally behind? Also I literally just beat Wario World yesterday and I don't know if I'd want to play it again so soon.
I think part of the issue for me is that Jonny never updates the master list on the first page so I never know if a game is accepted for the list or not. If I had a clear yes or no then I could rally behind said game until there was a definitive answer. As it stands we'll never know until it appears in a poll. Also, I just like throwing out ideas of what might work for the segment. I almost don't care what is played because I've decided to play every game that is in RetroActive.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 29, 2009, 04:01:08 AM
Double Dragon (NES I'm assuming) isn't really 3D, as the game engine is two-dimensional and it has some tricks to sort of seem like it's 3D. The movement doesn't actually have any depth; you can't move toward or away from the screen, it's only horizontal or vertical movement. Wario World's game engine is entirely three-dimensional, as are the graphics. Though I don't know what point you're trying to make as the two games have nothing in common.
If Wario World were expansive then it just would have been Super Mario 64 with Wario. Super Wario 64. It needed to be a little more unique, and its pseudo-sidescrolling style is what makes it feel like a 3D Wario Land game with a few things here and there to spice things up so it feels like its own game as well. That's just my thoughts on the game anyway.
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Post by: rbtr on March 29, 2009, 01:00:19 PM
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that Wario World disappoints me. It's still a good game, but I think it could have been a bit more ambitious in it's design. It's truly just a matter of the product leaving me unsatisfied, after this though I feel like I should give it another chance.
And Double Dragon and Wario World have a few things in common. You move in all available directions (regardless of graphical tricks), you jump, and you punch guys in both. :)
Speaking of double dragon, I hope they release the gameboy one that was actually a kunio-kun game but with different graphics. I had it when I was a kid and it was sweet.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 29, 2009, 04:06:10 PM
I can see how Wario World could be disappointing, especially if you were hoping for something more grand. My only real problem with it is that it is quite short; it probably took my longer to complete Wario Land II. If I had paid full price for it I'd have likely felt gypped.
If you reduce any game to its basics, you'll find that lots of games have things in common. In Super Mario 64, you move in all available directions, you jump, and you can punch enemies. Lots of platforming games have such elements.
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Post by: rbtr on March 29, 2009, 04:36:36 PM
We have civilly ended an internet discussion.... I think I can get used to this place.
Reducing the game to its basics was a smart alec comment, hence the smiley :)
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Post by: Spinnzilla on March 29, 2009, 04:51:05 PM
Now flame each other before the interwebz explodes.
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Post by: RABicle on March 30, 2009, 01:03:52 PM
1. Tennis Probably still the best tennis video game ever. They'd better not do anything silly and colourise it for re-release.
2. Wario Land III I loved Wario Land 1 and 2 but for whatever reason I never played the next two. So I want it on the machine because it's probably impossible to legally obtain any other way these days.
3. Advance Wars The sequel upset the balance a bit, leaving Advance Wars an essentially flawless game.
4. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening I know this has been brought up upteen times in the thread already but it really has to be said; this game is adorable. Everything about it is so disarmingly charming, from Marin to stealing from the shop keeper to Bow Wow to Kiki and that ghost. Did you know I had a partially complete, buggy port of this on my calculator? So cool. It'd be nice if it had scrolling though.
5. Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town This is, by far, the biggest portable game ever. It's the final evolution of the original Harvest Moon formula. There is just so much **** you can do that Natsume presumably have not bothered to improve it further, instead opting for interesting diversions like Rune Factory and disgusting experiments like It's A Wonderful Life!
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: nickmitch on March 30, 2009, 10:22:25 PM
Tetris Blast.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: Stratos on March 30, 2009, 10:39:39 PM
4. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening I know this has been brought up upteen times in the thread already but it really has to be said; this game is adorable. Everything about it is so disarmingly charming, from Marin to stealing from the shop keeper to Bow Wow to Kiki and that ghost. Did you know I had a partially complete, buggy port of this on my calculator? So cool. It'd be nice if it had scrolling though.
I think I had that calculator game. It was pretty impressive. I could never make games that good on my TI-83 though I really tried.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: Tanookisuit on March 31, 2009, 10:10:06 AM
No, it's not for GB/GBA, it's the only "portable" game I don't have that I'd care to buy through this service (and it'll save me $70+ on ebay). Otherwise, I'll stick with new downloadable games... Of course, if Nintendo were to get Sega to jump on board with Game Gear games, specifically the ones that Sega never brought to North America which were like, what, all of the good/interesting ones (namely Phantasy Star Gaiden), I'd be at least... okay, not that much more interested, but a little more interested.
I've got VB Warioland. It's great.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: Stratos on March 31, 2009, 08:52:56 PM
We should have a thread like RetroActive where we all play the VB Wario Land. There are a number of us that have the game.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 31, 2009, 10:35:59 PM
I'm one of those. ;)
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Post by: UncleBob on April 05, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
Game and Watch games... We need them.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: ReverendNoahWhateley on April 06, 2009, 08:39:04 PM
1) Quarth - It's really fun. Seriously!
2) Pokemon Trading Card Game - Not going to happen, but in my dreams, I can live on Mars, buy expensive cars and have it my way.
3) Donkey Kong - Growing up, I knew a kid that had this, and I was always deeply envious of his game-having skills. I need closure.
4) Metroid 2 - Regardless of its quality, I want to play through it. I always felt like I was only getting half the story in Super Metroid.
5) That Kid Icarus Game - Because. It's a Kid Icarus game.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: TofuFury on April 07, 2009, 02:24:42 AM
1. Mother 3- Not going to happen, but I can dream.
2. Pokemon Pinball- I hear lots of praise for it, but I never got a chance to play it. I enjoyed Metroid pinball, so I'd like to try another nintendo themed pinball game.
3. Mario Land 2- This was the game I wanted when I got my gameboy. I remember that it was a lot of fun, but I never got a chance to beat it.
4. Advance Wars- Never got a chance to play the series, so it would be nice to have easy access to the first one.
5. Pokemon Red and Blue- Yes, they've been remade, but I wouldn't mind playing the very old games just to reminisce playing them for the first time.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 07, 2009, 12:08:51 PM
Mario Land 2 had a pretty difficult and unique final boss from the typical Mario series.
Also, Pokemon Pinball was a pretty fun game. The Gameboy had a surprisingly great amount of Pinball games. I think there was a sequel to Pokemon Pinball on the Gameboy advance...I played that version and I would suggest that is the game to play.
Title: Re: Your Top 5 most wanted for the GB/GBA DSi service.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 07, 2009, 12:14:56 PM
No, it's not for GB/GBA, it's the only "portable" game I don't have that I'd care to buy through this service (and it'll save me $70+ on ebay). Otherwise, I'll stick with new downloadable games... Of course, if Nintendo were to get Sega to jump on board with Game Gear games, specifically the ones that Sega never brought to North America which were like, what, all of the good/interesting ones (namely Phantasy Star Gaiden), I'd be at least... okay, not that much more interested, but a little more interested.
I've got VB Warioland. It's great.
I disagree, I found it to be a bit boring :P and the final boss overly frustrating :P
