Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: shammack on May 17, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
Title: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 17, 2008, 08:46:41 AM
Why is nobody talking about this game?
I was on the fence about downloading it because I couldn't really get a good idea of how it actually played, but I finally did and I'm pleasantly surprised. It actually reminds me a lot of Harvest Moon, except instead of vegetables and livestock, you're sort of cultivating adventurers, and each in-game day you do a little upkeep on them and can then wander around the town improving relationships/morale or working on building new additions to your kingdom/farm.
Meanwhile, your guys are out doing whatever you told them to do, which might be gathering materials, exploring, fighting bosses, finding out how to build new types of buildings, etc., and you reap the benefits of their labor without having to endure the tedium of actually doing the fighting yourself. (But you can actually read a turn-by-turn recap of each battle in the daily reports if you want.) You also have a little bit of control over your individual guys' attributes by giving them stat bonuses when they complete important missions.
I'm currently somewhere in "Chapter II" (I don't know how many there are), and it's looking like I'm about to start learning how to use magic and organize my adventurers into parties. This game has a lot more meat to it than I was expecting.
I think LostWinds was the "must-play" of the WiiWare launch, but FFCC:MLAK (sheesh) is also quite appealing to me as the kind of nerd who enjoys keeping track of lots of statistics, and it's clearly going to last me a lot longer. And honestly, as tempting as it is to bitch about WiiWare prices, I could get both of these games and at least one more for less than the price of a standard Wii game, and without having to go to Gamestop and refuse to buy the strategy guide and warranty. I think that's a pretty decent deal. (Though I did have to do a lot of fridge-cleaning.)
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 17, 2008, 11:28:54 AM
In my honest opinion this is the best of the WiiWare launch title games, never have I been so addicted to a downloadable game and the depth this game has rivals and even surpasses a lot of retail games this generation. I think square-enix did the DLC in a good way because you can buy DLC if you want them but you do not need them they just extend the game which is what a lot of dev/pubs don't understand about them some of the DLC prices in this game are a little excessive but they aren't too insanely priced for the most part. My biggest gripe is a day in the game doesn't last very long(or doesn't feel long since the game sucks you in) because the game is so addicting I usually complete 1 - 2 hour session minimum whenever I play.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 17, 2008, 03:51:54 PM
Same.
Unfortunately I can't get into Chime's Room yet, still waiting for more Chime Costumes, and I want her to boost my morale at night.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 17, 2008, 07:35:25 PM
Oh man, I wanted to see the infamous Chime bikini, so I downloaded her alternate costume, but it turns out the bikini's in the second batch of DLC that we don't have yet, so what I got was pretty much just a purple version of her normal costume with a better hat. Needless to say, I was disappointed.
On the other hand, at least this useless DLC gives me a way to finally get rid of the couple hundred Wii points that are always left over in my account but aren't enough to buy anything substantial.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 17, 2008, 08:49:14 PM
I will buy this immediately as soon as Nintendo gives me a storage solution. Well, it will be the second game I buy because of that, right after Sin & Punishment.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 17, 2008, 10:41:54 PM
I just beat it uh...20 minutes ago.
The end is a frustrating series of dispatching adventures and watching them come back with their butts thoroughly kicked.
Protip: if an adventurer gets beat up they spend two days on the mend. You can cut that to a single day by visiting them on their first day of healing. It may not seem that important now but it will be during the end-game.
I hope to have a review up in a day or two.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 18, 2008, 12:28:07 PM
Crimm, how much of the additional content did you buy? I'm on chapter 4 now and I'm trying to get all of the different races. I've unlocked one of the races already, but I am at my house limit so I can't build one. =(
I also bought the additional content that involves new building types, but haven't done anything with that yet either.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 18, 2008, 12:38:35 PM
Pale, when your at your house limit look for dungeons that gives you a house+ bonus when you clear the dungeon that should get you an additional 10 homes. One thing I did was I eliminated some small homes in favor of spacious homes since you get more tithes(money) from citizens in those types of homes and if I remember correctly a spacious home is the equivalent of 2 or 2.5 small homes. Each DLC (with an exception of costumes opens up a dungeon that you have to beat to unlock that building). Races take forever to unlock btw since you have to explore the dungeon quite a number of times and then attempt to beat the boss.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 18, 2008, 02:18:40 PM
What happens if you erase a house that has one of your highest level adventurers living there?
Also, I don't believe I got bumped above 20 homes when I unlocked the Yuke House+... hrmm.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 18, 2008, 02:56:29 PM
What happens if you erase a house that has one of your highest level adventurers living there?
Also, I don't believe I got bumped above 20 homes when I unlocked the Yuke House+... hrmm.
The family that lives in the home that you will set to demolish will live in the castle until theres a new home to replace the demolished one. And pale it has to say House+ not Yuke,Selkie,Littltie+ they are two different things.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 18, 2008, 02:59:27 PM
What happens if you erase a house that has one of your highest level adventurers living there?
Also, I don't believe I got bumped above 20 homes when I unlocked the Yuke House+... hrmm.
The family that lives in the home that you will set to demolish will live in the castle until theres a new home to replace the demolished one. And pale it has to say House+ not Yuke,Selkie,Littltie+ they are two different things.
LOL this game sounds like a human rights choker. I swearz I'll buy this, but I have to many game on my back burner to take care of first.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 18, 2008, 05:15:55 PM
Chapter 4? Wow... I'm on like... day 14...
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 18, 2008, 05:42:13 PM
I forget which chapter I'm on but I've put 5 hrs in so far. Also I am quite disappointed that apparently the "unlockable" content is merely unlocking things in the game. Each thing is only 1 or 2 blocks, so there is no way that is additional. Regardless this game is super addicting!
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 18, 2008, 08:20:13 PM
Damn...Here I was, trying to avoid getting any WiiWare game because of the memory issue and all of this talk about FFCC MLAK being good is tempting me...Quick, someone say the game sucks!
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 18, 2008, 08:23:16 PM
Pap64! Don't do it! This game has horse armor!
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 18, 2008, 08:59:34 PM
Sounds like Kairon loves him some Square-Enix tax.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 19, 2008, 12:06:32 AM
From what I've read Square has pulled an "EA" and is selling DLC that is actually already included in the original game. Tsk tsk.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 19, 2008, 07:47:07 AM
I agree that it sucks to pay to unlock stuff that's already part of the game, but in a case like this, does it really make any difference whether it's part of the original download or a separate download? I mean, either way, it's stuff that was ready when the game was released, so it could/should have been available when you bought it (and since it's already distributed through downloads anyway, there's no "oh, it already went off to printing" excuse). Even if they had pulled that stuff out of the main download, you'd still be getting screwed just as badly by having to pay for it; the only difference would be a slightly smaller file size if you chose not to get the DLC.
That said, I haven't bought any of it (except the Chime outfit detailed above) and it doesn't feel like I'm missing anything, so all those reviewers who are whining "wah, you really have to pay $41 to get the full game" can cram it with walnuts.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 19, 2008, 09:22:01 AM
Well for $41, they should have just made an actual game disc and gave the characters facial expressions. Oh well, I'll never play it anyway.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 19, 2008, 11:59:17 AM
My biggest beef with the game is how many 'twins' there are. It would have been really nice if they had the space of a retail disc to create many many more look and feel variations of the characters.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2008, 12:03:17 PM
At $41 I wouldn't have bought it.
Part of the allure was to finally be able to spend my 200 leftover Wii Points I obtained year ago.
+200 leftover from 2006 +2000 additional (oh, $20 to obtain this game) -1500 FFCC game (oh, at $15 this game feels less expensive than $20!) -300 Selkie House (hey I have leftover points! i'll grab a few things!) -300 i forgot -100 Chime's outfit =============== $22 game = Selkie-Clavat CROSS-BREEDING EMPIRE OF LUST
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 19, 2008, 06:36:04 PM
My biggest beef with the game is how many 'twins' there are. It would have been really nice if they had the space of a retail disc to create many many more look and feel variations of the characters.
Indeed. If they had included the 3 race pack, the 11 extra dungeons, and a few less twins, I would have paid 50 for this game.
Also, I bought nothing for my first pass. I'm going to buy the 3 race pack and 11 dungeons for my Game+. I need a break from it tho, I marathoned it for review purposes, and that's now how the game should be played.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2008, 06:59:50 PM
"Indeed. If they had included the 3 race pack, the 11 extra dungeons, and a few less twins, I would have paid 50 for this game."
No you wouldn't have. Everyone would've complained how a game bearing the "Final Fantasy" name has no exciting action sequences and all the music is just MIDI, for $50. Talk about N64 standards.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 19, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
I'm a fan of the $15 release. Microtransactions work great when they reduce the size of macrotransactions.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 19, 2008, 07:15:15 PM
"Indeed. If they had included the 3 race pack, the 11 extra dungeons, and a few less twins, I would have paid 50 for this game."
No you wouldn't have. Everyone would've complained how a game bearing the "Final Fantasy" name has no exciting action sequences and all the music is just MIDI, for $50. Talk about N64 standards.
I don't think so. I have no problem with the music and the 3 races pack and the 11 dungeon pack would have added 20 dungeons to a 26 dungeon game.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 19, 2008, 07:17:09 PM
For $50, even if it had all the DLC and more, I would probably have considered it too much of a gamble. For $15 I'm willing to take the chance.
I don't mind the music being MIDI but I do wish it were just a little less repetitive.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 19, 2008, 07:19:30 PM
I actually think the music was pretty good.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 19, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
My only real problem with the game (I DO enjoy it) is that citizen patterns are the same every day. For example the white rat thing (Forget their name) always comes out of the castle at the same time. It would have been nice to have more randomization in citizen's movements each day.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 19, 2008, 07:30:03 PM
It's not that the music isn't good, just that... the vast majority of the game uses one song that loops about every 30 seconds. If that song were just a bit longer (and maybe less high-pitched) I'd be happy.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 19, 2008, 07:31:52 PM
They are Moogles GP FF had these critters since forever, and I thought that women like moogles because they are cute especially with the poofy pompom.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: RABicle on May 20, 2008, 08:53:23 AM
Well you're wrong. Nobody likes Moogles. THey're little shits and their presence is tearing down the entire game.
I'm kinda liking it, wondering when I can start changing my adventurer's jobs and whatnot. Only on Chapter 2.
And let's just get this sorted out. Pale said he was unlocking races around chapter 4 or so... so are they actually available at all without the download or is it around capter 4 that you can actually reach the dungeon that unlocks the buildings for them?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 20, 2008, 09:31:15 AM
Well you're wrong. Nobody likes Moogles. THey're little shits and their presence is tearing down the entire game.
I'm kinda liking it, wondering when I can start changing my adventurer's jobs and whatnot. Only on Chapter 2.
And let's just get this sorted out. Pale said he was unlocking races around chapter 4 or so... so are they actually available at all without the download or is it around capter 4 that you can actually reach the dungeon that unlocks the buildings for them?
All the race dungeons are level 8 dungeon(You need to download the addon) but they are a pain to clear. To change jobs you need to unlock and build a gaming hall(thiefs), training hall(warriors), White Mage Academy(white mage), Black Mage Academy(Black mage).
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 20, 2008, 11:00:33 AM
Well i finished off all the races yesterday. It's cool that each race starts as their best job, Lilties - Warrior, Selkies - Thief, Yukes - Black Mage...
Do Yukes ever start as a White Mage instead?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 20, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
I'm in chapter 2 and I've just slogged through and unlocked yukes I think. OHHH YEAAAHHHH...
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 20, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
I'm probably gonna get this someday... Do you guys recommend it yet?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 20, 2008, 02:03:08 PM
I recommend it. I'm waiting for Crimms review to see if I disagree or not, and if I do, I'm going to write my own. :)
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 20, 2008, 02:13:10 PM
Like I said it is a tough game for me to recommend because it is so different. I love it, but I'm not sure it is a game for everyone.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 20, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
I recommend it. I'm waiting for Crimms review to see if I disagree or not, and if I do, I'm going to write my own. :)
Should go into editing tonight. All that's left are Pro/Con and the score bits at the end.
As for the other races, they cannot change class.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 20, 2008, 03:58:51 PM
Wait, what? You can't change the job of the other races?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 20, 2008, 04:01:31 PM
That's what I read.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 20, 2008, 04:49:14 PM
I've been trying to do it but they keep not showing up at the bulletin board with the job change behest...
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 20, 2008, 05:21:10 PM
I just got into the part of the game where it's taken over my life. OH GOD I want my life back. It's true that for the first 10 or so days it's slow... but .... oh god.
It's weird...the game is like one of those Japanese manager games, where you give people tasks for a day to accomplish goals, meet with varying success, then re-assign tasks for the next day. It's like a... you're managing adventurer ability, tasks, energy levels, and you do it again every 5-8 minutes. It's the perfect pace for addiction...
or boredom if you don't like these kinds of games.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 20, 2008, 05:51:28 PM
I'd mention this in the review, but I'm sticking to a "core game only" mantra. Otherwise I'd slam the creators (not the game) for doing this to your CHANCELLOR
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 20, 2008, 06:55:38 PM
My favorite character in this game is the town pervert who talks about Chime's black stockings and then says something like, "Good to see you underwear, I mean out here!"
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 20, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
I laughed mightly when I first saw him.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 20, 2008, 09:12:28 PM
It's great all Selkie families are female.
All the Selkie adventurers are HAWT.
EVEN THEIR MOMS ARE HAWT.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 21, 2008, 03:33:53 PM
I'd mention this in the review, but I'm sticking to a "core game only" mantra. Otherwise I'd slam the creators (not the game) for doing this to your CHANCELLOR
Yeah I agree, it would've been way better if you had like, a school building (do you? I'm not far) and like, this was the alternate costume for the teacher.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 21, 2008, 06:24:20 PM
I think the single sex selkies and the fact that they can't change jobs is proof that these aren't just unlocking something in the original download. I would guess that these new models are actually included in the 1 and 2 block downloads.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 21, 2008, 06:43:03 PM
Isn't a Wii Block about... 128kb? Can you fit everything you'd need for a race in that? the model + animations?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 21, 2008, 07:18:15 PM
It's 3 blocks for just an alternate outfit for Chime, so I'm guessing no.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 21, 2008, 07:40:29 PM
I'd mention this in the review, but I'm sticking to a "core game only" mantra. Otherwise I'd slam the creators (not the game) for doing this to your CHANCELLOR
Yeah I agree, it would've been way better if you had like, a school building (do you? I'm not far) and like, this was the alternate costume for the teacher.
Smashing idea. A hospital or clinic should also be included, with Chime as head practitioner w/ all-Selkie staff.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2008, 10:36:23 PM
This is Sheena. She's not exactly Chime, nor a Chancellor of hawt, but she's a private tutor and has an exceptional level of service.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 21, 2008, 10:59:57 PM
Anyone know where another House+ can be found? I got the first one so my house limit is 20, but... where's another one? I can't see any on my map!
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 22, 2008, 12:28:44 AM
The second House+ is later in the game. I think it's in Chapter 4.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on May 22, 2008, 01:21:33 PM
The second House+ is later in the game. I think it's in Chapter 4.
What level do your characters have to be to get it though? I'm in Chapter 4, but don't see any dungeons that unlock a House+ yet.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Crimm on May 22, 2008, 01:48:32 PM
Don't remember. It's a game-core dungeon tho.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 24, 2008, 12:52:21 PM
Anybody know how the DLC is handled if you have to "clean out the fridge"? Like, will you keep it if you delete the game but not your save file, or vice versa? Or if you delete them both, is it possible to re-download the DLC you bought before for free?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 24, 2008, 01:49:37 PM
Okay, if your game save is influenced by DLC but you delete the Download content file then your game save will not work until you redownload the DLC (its free to redownload if you bought it).
For FFCC theres 3 seperate files, the game file itself, save data and download content data(block size is cumalative of all DLC so its not a set number of blocks)
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: shammack on May 24, 2008, 03:46:26 PM
Cool, thanks.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 24, 2008, 03:54:12 PM
So I just realized that each racial house has it's own sub limit... LAME!
I can now build 30 houses, but only 5 of each of the racial houses. They force them to be minorities!
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 24, 2008, 04:11:09 PM
So I just realized that each racial house has it's own sub limit... LAME!
I can now build 30 houses, but only 5 of each of the racial houses. They force them to be minorities!
You never knew that? It tells you that. I suppose they want you to make it semi diverse or its because if you listen to some of the people in town only clavats are common and the 3 other races are supposed to be rare in the realm
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on May 24, 2008, 04:16:41 PM
I must have missed where it told me. It's funny, because when I unlocked all the race huts, I was at a 20 house cap. I immediately tore down 15 of my previous houses and built 5 of each race, for perfect diversity! =P Then when I got up to 30 houses I noticed.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 24, 2008, 04:32:01 PM
I must have missed where it told me. It's funny, because when I unlocked all the race huts, I was at a 20 house cap. I immediately tore down 15 of my previous houses and built 5 of each race, for perfect diversity! =P Then when I got up to 30 houses I noticed.
And you also moved 15 families to the castle you evil evil person :P.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 24, 2008, 05:19:39 PM
I noticed the castle town has NO SECURITY WHATSOEVER.
What if Sir Lancelot decided to come knocking on our doorstep? WHO WILL STOP THIS MENACE?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 24, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
Or just don't buy the game at all. I think that's the best bet when it comes to the entire Final Fantasy series.
Except there's not just one Final Fantasy series; they've been using that moniker to boost sales of other Square series at least as far back as Final Fantasy Adventure on the original Game Boy. For that matter, My Life as a King isn't even a real Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles game, though at least it's set in the same universe unlike FFA.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Morari on May 26, 2008, 10:47:25 AM
All of the games are labeled the same, regardless of the reason. It's all one big series. Most of the "main series" doesn't even relate to one another, so I'd argue that even it requires subtitles. You'd avoid having to hear stupid names like Final Fantasy X-2 then.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 11, 2008, 07:07:35 PM
Any word when Chime's Bikini will be available?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on June 12, 2008, 06:43:23 PM
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 11, 2008, 01:28:25 PM
...So I just got this yesterday. I'm on like day 18 or 19. So far it's good the kingdom is kinda bland right now. However, I have question, I NEED to buy the race packs to get those other races right? Should I buy that now? Or is there a better time? I don't wanna buy them if I end up not liking the game. INSIGHT PLZ.
Any other stuff I should buy? besides the bikini Pro
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 11, 2008, 01:35:13 PM
...So I just got this yesterday. I'm on like day 18 or 19. So far it's good the kingdom is kinda bland right now. However, I have question, I NEED to buy the race packs to get those other races right? Should I buy that now? Or is there a better time? I don't wanna buy them if I end up not liking the game. INSIGHT PLZ.
Any other stuff I should buy? besides the bikini Pro
If you want the extra races buy the bundle since its not worth it to buy them separately. Be sure to note you need to clear a dungeon to unlock the houses, the dungeons are level 8 dungeons but take up a lot of days to clear. Each races have a max limit of 5 houses and they count toward the cumulative house limit as well.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 11, 2008, 01:37:24 PM
You don't need to buy additional races, period.
Their tailored abilities are HELPFUL but you can get by fine without them.
But, the best time to buy any would be as early as possible, since the sooner you finish the required dungeon to unlock them, the sooner they can level up and provide a more rounded set of adventurers. But keep in mind you can't add them to the village if you currently have your house limite maxxed out.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 11, 2008, 01:37:59 PM
do you recommend buying them? Do they add much to the gameplay?
Thanks chaos and Pro. Thats kinda what I was looking for.
So the extra races basically just provide something else to look at... haha
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 11, 2008, 02:20:42 PM
As adventurers grow and more dungeons are in need of clearing, the different jobs and abilities will affect the rates of aspects of "progress."
You'll eventually notice things like: 1. Clavats are well-rounded and boring, but have the most options in terms of armor/defense 2. early levels/dungeons involve entirely melee/warrior combat 3. magick enemies start showing up in subsequent dungeons, and warriors prove to be defficient (read the report and figure out why GARY died or something, cuz he was raped by magick) 4. you start employing magick users provide needed magick support etc etc
So you have different resources to speed up certain kinds of progress (and overcome other difficulties), determining where you want to be at Day 50, Day 90, Day 200 and so on.
Lilties hit hard. Birdmen have bestest magick. I got Selkies because I want to look at them. And they bring in higher amounts of spoils from battles.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 11, 2008, 02:32:24 PM
so adventurer's can actually DIE? rather than just rest for 2 days?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
Yeah... the extra races give your town some visual diversity, their houses are one-0by-one so they fit in some small places you may have left over, and since you can't change their classes, if you leave enough room in your adventuring party (remember, maximum for the entire game: 16) you can hire plenty of the other races to ENSURE a stable stock of black mages or white mages or thieves or whatnot. I personally really dig the Yukes... especially since they pull double duty since they're either randomly black or white mages.
They do give you SOME added options... but not enough to discount the fact that their main contribution is visual diversity.
Also, they say they get "wiped out." They don't "die", they limp back home and sulk in bed. If you visit them, they sulk for only one day.
And yeah, you usually skip over battle reports, but they're useful in seeing just how your adventurers are getting wiped out so that you can better construct parties or get a good idea of what you're up against.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 11, 2008, 02:56:31 PM
I'm at work... how much is the race pack?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2008, 02:57:49 PM
800 Wii Points for all 3 races, or 300 each race individually.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 11, 2008, 03:01:13 PM
yikes... that'd about clean me clean me out, i'd only have 700 points. I'm gonna give it more time.
Kairon, can you review cocoto? Or at least tell me more?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 11, 2008, 03:11:59 PM
700? that's 2 races and a bikini.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 11, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
ya but depending on my level of addiction to this game, it may not interesting me.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2008, 03:19:52 PM
Cocoto fishing?
Hmm... it's... very good shovelware. LOL.
It's not so much a fishing game as it is a "fetch me this fish game." And by fetch, they mean catch. And by catch, they mean choose the corresponding bait, cast it into the water, do a simple minigame where you move the bait with the analog stick and keep it in front of the fish, jerk the wii remote at the correct time (which is somewhat tricky: each fish has different timing, and you movement has to be a concise jerk, not a long arcing crazy pull (took me about 25 minutes to figure this out)), then reel the fish in by vigorously weraring out your nunchuk arm, but giving it a rest when the fish fights back.
Rise and repeat. Buy extra fish to buy new rod. Catch uber fish boss with special bait you unlock. Go to new world with the same fish, but different models and textures and rods and skyboxes.
It's really solid at doing exactly what I told you... which isn't very deep at all, but can provide enjoyment if all you want is that simple experience. It's shovelware... and I wish all shovelware was at least this good, and cost only $8.
Hardcore gamers may turn down their nose at it though. To them, I bet Gyrostarr is a much better value. Or maybe just buckle down, and save your 700 Wii Points for something that'll truly get you excited in the future? Like... the first episode of Strongbad might be coming out this month. Hopefully.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2008, 03:21:50 PM
Word of warning about some DLC: the dungeons to unlock them can't be beat until considerably later in the game.
But the Library, which promises to teach race specific abilities requires beating a level 40 dungeon... and most other "ability things" I've bought too. Most of this DLC ability stuff is aimed at endgame.
The sacred shrine is actually an okay one. The dungeon to unlock your first one is level 24.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 11, 2008, 03:23:00 PM
700 points? Get Gyrostarr with that.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2008, 03:23:47 PM
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 11, 2008, 04:11:54 PM
Hmm Pop is another good one if your in the mood to pop bubbles and to annoy friends who are on your wii's address book with your personal achievements
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2008, 04:53:11 PM
I bought the luxurious house and shrine DLC, the shrine might be of interest since it provides not only buffs but also makes schools offer new abilities (I got lightning spells that way). Yeah, the dungeon is level 24 but the boss is awfully powerful, you need to be a bit above that to really beat him. I powerlevelled a bit to get that thing before triggering a story event, leaving me with a lv26 party when the next regular dungeon is lv21 or so.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 12, 2008, 04:14:58 AM
Okay another question. I got Bakery+ and now I can build a second bakery. I have 12 houses where I think 3-4 are spacious. How close should I build my bakery to the first one? All of my buildings are all built around the castle entrance, so nothing is scattered.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: KDR_11k on July 12, 2008, 03:03:36 PM
Me, I made it on the other side of the town so I could start making houses there.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2008, 04:01:20 PM
Don't go overboard on the Spacious houses. Money maxes out at 9999 and you don't have anything to spend it on. Instead, the spacious houses start using up precious space and your town gets pretty cramped and hard to manage eventually. I bought the luxurious houses (another place that requires a 40 level dungeon to unlock, bah), but I'll never use 'em because I've got enough money and not enough space.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: KDR_11k on July 12, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
They use less space than small houses of equivalent value. Space saving is the only reason I pick large houses at all.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2008, 05:00:50 PM
But that's the problem. "Value" (as in money) aren't the limiting factor in this game. You rarely have a chance to use money...I live my life mazed out at 9999 money and nothing to spend it on. What IS starting to put the squeeze on me is available land. 2X2 buildings and 2X3 buildings are getting harder and harder to find places for, my town is getting more congested and my adventurers take longer and longer to visit all the buildings on their way out of town. Sometimes I see adventurers set off in the evening!
Sure, make some spacious houses, but beware the temptation for a population boom with such houses. My city is starting to feel the ill effects of urban suburbia!
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 12, 2008, 09:56:42 PM
Did you max out all the donations for weapons and spells and abilities?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2008, 10:04:30 PM
Not yet, but I'm 15 levels ahead of my adventurers on those.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: KDR_11k on July 13, 2008, 04:29:05 AM
Then why are you floating so much money? I've got most of my stuff at lv45 with my best adventurer group at ~26.
I still don't see your issue with spacious houses. You use LESS space for the same effect (well, fewer adventurers but I've never had that limit me), 2 spaces for 30 income as opposed to 3 spaces if you were using small houses. I also don't see how the population boom causes trouble with your adventrers, don't they just clip right through NPCs anyway?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Kairon on July 13, 2008, 05:27:57 AM
I don't need the extra money at all!
And I'm starting to worry that when I do unlock the Library, or additional shops or buildings, I won't have the space for them. It's gotten to the point that I've declared a moratorium on house construction in the hopes of saving the few open spaces I have left for the buildings that I haven't yet unlocked.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: KDR_11k on July 13, 2008, 10:04:49 AM
Well, if you don't need more income anyway why didn't you stop makign houses? Could even tear a few down if you need space...
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 16, 2008, 12:07:25 AM
Exactly how do you get Taverns? This boss won't die! I'm on day 45ish. So how do you get them?
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 16, 2008, 01:08:51 AM
Taverns are unlocked after beating one of the regular dungeons. I don't remember what level.
You characters need to level up a bit more. Mages in particular.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 24, 2008, 10:54:48 PM
fark, I finally beat this dumb game. I didn't like it that much. I'd give it a 7/10.
So many things just seemed annoying, look here:
- Did anyone actually read any of the citizen's monologues past like... day 5? - The slow down was terrible! They elminiated the slowest piece of hardware on a system (the disc), and it's still slow as hell sometimes! I mean come on, did every speech bubble HAVE wiggle when it opened!? - The moral system was stupid. It probably failed at everything it set out to do. It didn't get me to read anything anyone said AND WORST the length of day only stayed it's longest while you were talking to people regularly! God only knows how many people you actually have to talk to to get it to stay high, but it doesn't matter anyway, because of all that time you wasted talking to all those people you've kill the time you were gaining! It's a wash! - The various interfaces sucked all the time, they were CRAP. - Lots was not well explained or didn't really seem to work logically. Example, actually getting a material behest to appear, or whether an adventurer would only buy stuff up to his own level. - The empty building spaces were just in stupid places some times. I mean if it's against a wall and it's two spaces deep the only thing your interested in really building there is shops. Single homes are practically pointless once you get spacious homes and start racking in elementi(sp??). - BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH and other things.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 24, 2008, 10:58:01 PM
You played way too fast. Should've been karting.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 24, 2008, 10:59:57 PM
fark, I finally beat this dumb game. I didn't like it that much. I'd give it a 7/10.
So many things just seemed annoying, look here:
- Did anyone actually read any of the citizen's monologues past like... day 5? - The slow down was terrible! They elminiated the slowest piece of hardware on a system (the disc), and it's still slow as hell sometimes! I mean come on, did every speech bubble HAVE wiggle when it opened!? - The moral system was stupid. It probably failed at everything it set out to do. It didn't get me to read anything anyone said AND WORST the length of day only stayed it's longest while you were talking to people regularly! God only knows how many people you actually have to talk to to get it to stay high, but it doesn't matter anyway, because of all that time you wasted talking to all those people you've kill the time you were gaining! It's a wash! - The various interfaces sucked all the time, they were CRAP. - Lots was not well explained or didn't really seem to work logically. Example, actually getting a material behest to appear, or whether an adventurer would only buy stuff up to his own level. - The empty building spaces were just in stupid places some times. I mean if it's against a wall and it's two spaces deep the only thing your interested in really building there is shops. Single homes are practically pointless once you get spacious homes and start racking in elementi(sp??). - BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH and other things.
I disagree
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 24, 2008, 11:06:18 PM
I don't. screw that game.
And I agree with the karting part, Pro ;)
The played to fast? No.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2008, 12:31:54 AM
I love that you obviously hate the game yet you give it a 7.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 25, 2008, 05:24:08 AM
No I don't hate it. Just glad it's over! That Dark Lord took a good chunk of time to kill! I had to spend like 5 days with nothing to spend any money on and maxed out all the buildings, just running around moving as fast as possible through speech bubbles keeping moral up while my party yet again gets whipped out. I'm sorry, but the towns folk just didn't have really anything to say.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Ceric on July 25, 2008, 09:39:18 AM
I actually enjoyed this game but, I have no use for moral any longer. The fact of the matter is now my Kingdom is at the highest level that moral will let it be and I personally have nothing to do but set my adventurers out. Thats it.
The worst part is I have the best paid adventurers and the like but half the time over half of them don't want to go and do what I say. Making my progress in the game painful sometime. Also the behest are wickedly hard sometimes.
I think there should be an option to watch the fights of the adventurers when they get back.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: Pale on July 25, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
I just restarted this game on very hard mode, and I'm struggling but enjoying it. I just beat the goblin boss in like the third lowest level area and i'm on like day 45.
Title: Re: FFCC: My Life as a King
Post by: noname2200 on March 26, 2010, 12:49:44 PM
So, thread necromancer here and everything.
Anyhow, due to a lack of funds I've been replaying all the old favorites, including this one. Question: In my New Game+ my adventurers get really depressed and bored really, really quickly, to the point where they rarely do more than enter one fight before returning home. If I declare a holiday, then send them out the next day, they sometimes get into two fights before coming home. Any tips or suggestions?
