Community Forums => General Chat => Topic started by: ShyGuy on March 01, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
Title: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 01, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
I'm feeling conflicted about this Charlie Sheen situation.
On one hand, it's celebrity gossip so it has zero importance and I really shouldn't care.
On the other hand, the things he says are incredibly entertaining.
On the third hand, seeing someone abuse drugs and womanize is a sad situation.
On the fourth hand, I really have little interest in the Two and a Half Men TV Show.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 01, 2011, 10:56:16 PM
I am having fun watching the meltdown. The guy is a egomaniac, thinks he is better than everyone (literally, he said he is tired of pretending he is not special), verbally attacks and threatens physical violence towards the man responsible for letting him earn over $43 million a year just from a TV show, thinks using cocaine is fine and the AA is a cult, and is in a downward spiral. I love Two and a Half Men, and he is killing the show with his rants. He caused this season to go from 24 episodes down to 16 (although Warner Bros. has promised to pay the crew for 20 episodes). There is talk about actually replacing him on the show if he keeps this up, maybe with John Stamos (who has been making a comeback on TV recently), and I wouldn't mind that.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: nickmitch on March 02, 2011, 12:50:25 AM
[...] thinks using cocaine is fine and the AA is a cult [...]
I wouldn't personally condone the use of cocaine. What someone does with their own body isn't any of my business however. That said, AA pretty much is a cult. It conditions people to feel helpless so that they can use group therapy as a crutch instead of substance abuse. Just believe in those higher powers and everything will be alright! ...right?
Disclaimer: I have no idea what's going on with Charlie Sheen, and only really even know of the name from a couple of films. He'll never live up to some of his father's roles.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 02, 2011, 04:32:22 PM
AA has been shown to help many people get over their alcohol addiction. And Sheen has said that it's OK to use cocaine as long as you can handle it socially, he should not be saying anyone should use it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 02, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
He is just exercising his "Freedom of Speech" just like everyone else can exercise their "Freedom to not listen"
Everything can be destructive if abused and just because his personal choices for social interaction happen to be illegal doesn't make them wrong for him to do.
It's his mind and his body, so as long as what he is doing to himself is not directly harming anyone else around him, then I don't see the harm in him enjoying something he loves to do.... as long as it's not being abused.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 02, 2011, 05:02:36 PM
He is just exercising his "Freedom of Speech" just like everyone else can exercise their "Freedom to not listen"
Everything can be destructive if abused and just because his personal choices for social interaction happen to be illegal doesn't make them wrong for him to do.
It's his mind and his body, so as long as what he is doing to himself is not directly harming anyone else around him, then I don't see the harm in him enjoying something he loves to do.... as long as it's not being abused.
He is just exercising his "Freedom of Speech" just like everyone else can exercise their "Freedom to not listen"
Everything can be destructive if abused and just because his personal choices for social interaction happen to be illegal doesn't make them wrong for him to do.
It's his mind and his body, so as long as what he is doing to himself is not directly harming anyone else around him, then I don't see the harm in him enjoying something he loves to do.... as long as it's not being abused.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 02, 2011, 05:34:32 PM
Well, it's serious enough to Colorado has granted his ex-wife a restraining order preventing him from coming within 100 feet of her or their two kids.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 02, 2011, 06:25:56 PM
you can get restraining orders for all sorts of reasons.... it could be that incident they had a few months ago where he did something to his wife and then ran his car off the cliff too.
The man in in party mode, it's not everyday that someone gets to make $2million a week as long as his show in on the air. You only have one life to live it up and I'm sure most of us would trade places with him in a heartbeat and handle most of what he is doing a whole lot differently.... or so we hope.[/'spoiler]
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 03, 2011, 12:20:30 AM
If you're a fan of NBC's Parks and Recreation (and you should be), check out this link (http://sheenandswanson.tumblr.com/), a collection of Sheen's tweets paired with shots from the show that present them as if Ron Swanson said them. It's fantastic.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 03, 2011, 12:42:55 AM
Ron Swanson is the best character on TV right now
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: RABicle on March 03, 2011, 01:51:39 AM
I think it's great that Two and a Half men has been cancelled. That show was never funny.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Kytim89 on March 03, 2011, 02:03:55 AM
I think it's great that Two and a Half men has been cancelled. That show was never funny.
It hasn't been canceled, they just ended the season. You may not like the show, but you are in the minority as it is the most popular sitcom on TV. I haven't watched it in awhile (I am watching wrestling on Mondays at 9), but I enjoy the show and find it really funny.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Crimm on March 03, 2011, 12:24:34 PM
I think it's great that Two and a Half men has been cancelled. That show was never funny.
It hasn't been canceled, they just ended the season. You may not like the show, but you are in the minority as it is the most popular sitcom on TV. I haven't watched it in awhile (I am watching wrestling on Mondays at 9), but I enjoy the show and find it really funny.
Technically that just means he's probably not in the plurality. In the sake of transparency I don't much care for anything produced by that show's producer.
Unrelated, but hilarious: Gaddafi or Sheen (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/quiz/2011/mar/01/muammar-gaddafi-charlie-sheen-quiz)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 03, 2011, 12:26:37 PM
You don't like The Big Bang Theory? That is one of the best shows on TV IMO. And yes, I did like Dharma & Greg too (which was also from Chuck Lorre).
I actually saw that quiz mentioned on CNN about 30 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Guitar Smasher on March 03, 2011, 12:29:48 PM
I think its quite despicable the way the media is taking advantage of a clearly troubled man.
And before anyone claims it's ok because he's approaching them, well it's not. If a drunk young woman, upset because her father's going to jail, started sleeping around with anyone and everyone, would it be respectable to take advantage of her situation? No it would not.
Sure, he's allowed to share his side of the story, but leave it to Twitter and Facebook. At least there he's not being paraded like a show at the circus.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 03, 2011, 12:35:34 PM
I bet I can name a handful of forum goers who would take advantage of that situation...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2011, 12:45:25 PM
I'm more than a handful... ;)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Crimm on March 03, 2011, 01:18:35 PM
I bet I can name a handful of forum goers who would take advantage of that situation...
It seems the number goes beyond a "handful" if that "young woman" is vudu.
Here's the thing Mr. Smasher, he's not as crazy as he's acting. He acts nuts for publicity. He got on twitter "to make money." It's all about "all eyes on me."
He's doing the Tiger Woods thing in reverse, and the media is LOVING it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Shaymin on March 03, 2011, 06:20:24 PM
I hope his last tweet before he inevitably goes dark is "QUEENSBRIDGE!!"
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2011, 06:43:48 PM
According to the radio, Sheens ex-wife has dropped the restraining order, allowing him to keep the "Goddesses" and still visit his children, in exchange for not divulging the secrets/details of the things they used to do in the bedroom (and apparently out of it too).
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Guitar Smasher on March 03, 2011, 11:52:27 PM
I bet I can name a handful of forum goers who would take advantage of that situation...
It seems the number goes beyond a "handful" if that "young woman" is vudu.
Here's the thing Mr. Smasher, he's not as crazy as he's acting. He acts nuts for publicity. He got on twitter "to make money." It's all about "all eyes on me."
He's doing the Tiger Woods thing in reverse, and the media is LOVING it.
And how much acting was involved when he beat up his wife not too long ago?
I don't deny the possibility that he's trying to get attention by going over the top, but that's even more reason the media to not broadcast it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: RABicle on March 04, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
I think it's great that Two and a Half men has been cancelled. That show was never funny.
It hasn't been canceled, they just ended the season. You may not like the show, but you are in the minority as it is the most popular sitcom on TV. I haven't watched it in awhile (I am watching wrestling on Mondays at 9), but I enjoy the show and find it really funny.
I really, really hope this isn't true. Everything is wrong with people if that is the case and Two and Half Men is the most watched sitcom. As far as American shows go Modern Family and Community are the best new shows around to challenge 30 Rock as the funniest American show on television. Of course everything from Britain is funnier but I'm still watching reruns of League of Gentlemen, Black Books and Father Ted. Outnumbered was the best new show from the islands lately.
But god. I swear to god Last year channel 9 was showing Two and Half Men up to 3 times a night. It was unbearable. Even How I Met Your Mother was funnier and that show only has one good character. (Two and a half men has none, Community has 8 ) Maybe that's why it rates so well, there are now so many episodes (all of whcih are the exact same **** witht eh exact same jokes and actors wearing the exact same clothes) that it is actually impossible to avoid and rates soley on sheer volume alone.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 04, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
It was the most popular with new episodes, now that its in re-runs the most popular comedy is The Big Bang Theory (even re-runs of TAHM get around 12 million viewers though, US ratings). Community struggles and is likely only still on the air because NBC in general is suffering with ratings. Modern Family is doing alright but is not a smash hit. 30 Rock is like Arrested Development was: a favorite among critics but not that big in number of viewers.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 04, 2011, 03:24:56 PM
Which just goes to show you, the vast majority of American TV viewers are idiots. I don't care if Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory get 50 million viewers an episode; they're still complete **** compared to Community and Parks & Recreation.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 04, 2011, 03:45:39 PM
Agreed. Have you ever seen clips of Big Bang Theory with the laugh track removed? It's just awkward, not funny whatsoever. I think Community sucks too, but I only watched like the first 3 or 4 episodes. The jokes are just too quick (and not funny), it's over-scripted.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Crimm on March 04, 2011, 05:12:59 PM
Which just goes to show you, the vast majority of American TV viewers are idiots. I don't care if Two and a Half Men and The Big Bang Theory get 50 million viewers an episode; they're still complete **** compared to Community and Parks & Recreation.
Ron Swanson updated today. It brought me unrelenting joy.
In the same vein: Charlie Sheen Crossing (http://sheencrossing.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Ian Sane on March 04, 2011, 06:05:25 PM
****, that Ron Swanson thing makes me regret not looking at this thread sooner! Parks & Rec is the best! I can usually determine what my favourite TV show is by how much I anticipate each episode. The Office used to be that show. Parks & Rec became that show last season. Ron is naturally my favourite character. Hell, I like him as a person. I think it would be cool to hang out with him and go for some steak or breakfast food. I figure when I'm middle-aged I'll either be like Ron Swanson or The Dude from the Big Lebowski. There is probably no middle ground for me.
It's funny to have this crossover with Sheen considering that Parks & Rec and Two and a Half Men are like on the exactly opposite ends of the TV comedy spectrum. Anyone who likes Two and a Half Men would have no idea who Ron Swanson is and would probably never find him funny because they, you know, would have no sense of humour.
Fun fact about Two and a Half Men. My friend says his dad watches the show all the time but never EVER laughs at it. Like he just turns on the show and stares at it but never once cracks a smile or laughs. Later I got a chance to observe this in person. Two and a Half Men is HARD show for me to watch for even like five minutes. The jokes are all so obvious and lame. My dad describes them as "clunkers" which I think is a good term for desperate unfunny gags that fail to get a response. And, yes, my friend's dad just sits there and watches the show, never laughing. It's a comedy. If you're not finding it funny why the hell would you watch it? Anyway it's a **** show. I found out one of my co-workers likes it and I can honestly say it affected my opinion of him.
My attitude regarding Sheen is that he's free to do what he wants to do with his life. He has no right to ruin his children's or ex-wife's lives however so it all depends on specifically what he is doing. I don't want him to destroy himself, like I generally don't want anyone to. But I can't deny that the comments he has made publicly are hilarious.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 04, 2011, 11:59:17 PM
YEAH RON SWANSON. Parks and Rec is the best comedy on TV right now.
Best Characters: 1. Ron Swanson 2. Andy 3. April Ludgate
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 05, 2011, 04:50:32 PM
Agreed. Have you ever seen clips of Big Bang Theory with the laugh track removed? It's just awkward, not funny whatsoever.
I could not disagree more. The joke are great, the characters are actually interesting (unlike some sitcoms that are liked by critics but get mediocre ratings), and the storylines are good. Maybe you don't get into it (the same way Frasier was a funny intellectual sitcom, and because of that some people didn't like it), but I don't think you have watched much of the show.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 05, 2011, 06:56:53 PM
All the characters on The Big Bang Theory put together still aren't as interesting as Ron Swanson.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 05, 2011, 07:07:20 PM
I don't get the appeal of The Office or Parks and Recreation. I have tried to get into both, but I found both boring and the "humor" didn't exist (I could tell when they were trying to deliver jokes, but did not find them funny).
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: RABicle on March 07, 2011, 12:14:39 AM
Anyway, back to the topic: Charlie Sheen.
So his twitter has become the thing to follow lately and it's just ridiculous. The guy is delusional. I'm all for people living life how they like and being in a spiral of madness, I;m guilty of it myself at times, but Charlie actually thinks he's the ****. THe guy's unemployed, estranged from his children, hasn't starred in a decent film since Platoon. He pays women for sex. The guy is a loser and yet his #winning hashtag is trending on twitter. And it's like everyone telling him he's top **** is just egging him on to fail further.
I almost pity him.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2011, 12:22:07 AM
He's burning the candle at both ends right now.
He is also a professional entertainer, so just let him do his thing and entertain us. That is why he is so famous in the first place.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 07, 2011, 12:24:17 AM
But right now I don't think he is trying to entertain us, his life is just spiraling down in a entertaining way.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2011, 12:31:57 AM
and that is entertaining us.
He knows he is making a public spectacle of himself (not that I'm paying attention... I haven't even seen the infamous interview yet), so in turn he knows that we are being entertained by him and his antics. He wouldn't be on TV, Radio and the Internet if he wasn't trying to make sure he was everywhere right now.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Stogi on March 07, 2011, 07:29:55 AM
I just want to reiterate that Charlie Sheen is my hero.
He is getting PAID cash money for his antics post-TAHM. How? By being a media darling.
This guy is smarter than he looks and funnier than hell. Sure he doesn't look healthy. A mountain of coke will do that. Sure he doesn't have the respect of his wife or maybe even his kids. But he can work on that.
Till then, keep it up Charlie!
P.s. I've watched about 5 minutes of TAHM and kinda chuckled once, but then quickly changed it. That shows terrible. But I have a dis-affinity to shows with laugh tracks. I hate being told when to laugh.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: bustin98 on March 07, 2011, 10:21:56 AM
TAHM was better when the kid was little. It was funny to see a tv kid being like a real kid. Now though, its meh. There are plenty of spoiled stupid teens on MTV, Nick, Disney, etc... After growing up with Growing Pains and Who's The Boss or even 8 Is Enough and The Brady Bunch, it was nice to see a kid like what's his face. Now, he's fugly, awkward, and the character just hasn't changed over the years when its obvious he would be different. Its like he's coasting, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 07, 2011, 11:13:58 AM
I haven't actually watched TAHM in a few years. One reason is that I prefer watching wrestling, the other is because Jake really got annoying when puberty hit him. Now his is more annoying.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ThePerm on March 07, 2011, 01:32:37 PM
2&½人 is kinda funny. I'm not one to like traditional 3 camera laugh track sitcoms, but yeah the actors are just playing themselves.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Shaymin on March 07, 2011, 05:14:06 PM
LOSING!!
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Good luck trying to put a “Winning!” spin on this, Charlie Sheen. CBS and Warner Bros. Television have reached a joint decision to fire the troubled actor from Two and a Half Men. “After careful consideration, Warner Bros. Television has terminated Charlie Sheen’s services on Two and a Half Men effective immediately,” read the statement. A decision regarding the future of the series — i.e. to recast or simply cancel — has not yet been made.
http://www.tvline.com/2011/03/breaking-charlie-sheen-terminated-from-two-and-a-half-men/ Incoming John Stamos.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 07, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
Insulting the shows creator AND the head of the network that airs the show will cause that.
I think Stamos would be a good replacement.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: oohhboy on March 09, 2011, 07:00:52 AM
I liked Sheen back when he was acting. TAHM was good too, until the whole thing started having life imitate art, that and the show going nowhere, outstaying it's welcome. The show lost it's edge after Melanie Lynskey (Rose) stop appearing regularly back in 2006.
Hopefully this will open the slot for fresher, better comedies like Community and Archer even though the show isn't ending. For Charlie, besides now having more money than sense, I hope he cleans up some and go back to what made him a classic in a the first place and do some acting.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 09, 2011, 09:20:28 AM
This guy will be dead within the next couple weeks. Time to invest in Hot Shots DVDs.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Silenced on March 09, 2011, 09:25:46 AM
The guy's fucked up. I knew they weren't going to keep running the TAHM show and just fire him.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 09, 2011, 04:44:24 PM
What i don't understand is how everybody is saying that he was the most paid actor on American TV. If i recall he lost that title to Hugh Laurie.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 09, 2011, 04:56:01 PM
How? Laurie makes $400K an episode, Sheen made $1.8 million. Laurie is the most made actor on dramas, but not overall.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 10, 2011, 02:06:39 PM
Charlie Sheen just came out with a cooking video: http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/5cwg
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ThePerm on March 10, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
that must be written by the old spice guys
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 12, 2011, 02:35:45 PM
Some video: http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/02/charlie-sheen-bombing-in-detroit-show-concert-tour-booing-fox-theater/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/02/charlie-sheen-bombing-in-detroit-show-concert-tour-booing-fox-theater/)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Kytim89 on April 03, 2011, 01:50:02 AM
Supposedly Sheen's mother is a product of a rape, which means his maternal grand father is a rapist. I guess this must explain his odd behavior and violence towards women.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2011, 11:38:52 AM
Charlie Sheen releases an unedited version of his interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LtBSqGzi3o
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 05, 2011, 02:31:15 PM
that video was hilarious
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: SixthAngel on April 06, 2011, 01:47:09 AM
I think the news is putting a big spin it. He's obviously got huge problems but his life isn't a disaster at all. I don't think we are going to see some kind of death spiral (or death) for a long time. He didn't get fired for doing too much coke or messing up on the job, he got fired because he badmouthed his boss. From what I've heard people didn't have any problems working for him.
He may be an addict but he is still very functional. He has turned him getting fired into making money off twitter advertisements and a show that he sold out before anybody even knew what the hell it was about. He has the perspective to realize people see what he said as ridiculous and even made that funny or die video making fun of himself. I just don't think this the usual Hollywood flameout.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2011, 02:03:01 AM
He should be in The Hangover III
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen
Post by: Stogi on April 06, 2011, 02:45:03 AM
That video/interview was just weird. I liked his actual interview with Piers Morgan much better. It was way funnier and less self-indulging (though barely).
