"The fundamental issue in the logic flow is that and this is what I'm hearing, whether it's from you or Geoff [Keighley, Game Trailers TV Host] or Michael [Pachter, Business Analyst] himself is that, gosh it's such an opportunity to take HD capability and link it with the Wii. And what we have said, repeatedly, is that that's not the way we at Nintendo do things. The way we at Nintendo do things is, you know, when we will move to a new generation, it's because there are some fundamental things the [current] console cannot do. What that says is that simply the addition of HD capability will not be the next step for us. There will be more to it. There will be additional capability. There will be additional elements, and, given that, it is far into the future."
Fils-Aime spoke with Games Trailer TV host Keighley earlier this month, stating "Michael [Pachter] continues to be the only one who believes that this is gonna happen. I don't know how forcefully we can say there is no Wii HD." The repeated statements by Fils-Aime suggest that Nintendo truly has no plans to release an upgraded Wii in the near future.
The Nintendo Wii launched in November 2006, marking this the third year of the console's life-cycle. If Nintendo were to launch a new console in the next year, it would mark the shortest life span of a Nintendo mainline console to date.
The way we at Nintendo do things is, you know, when we will move to a new generation, it's because there are some fundamental things the [current] console cannot do.
This is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.
QuoteThis is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.
I guess it'll be non-news when people stop asking about it. The interview was just published over at Kotaku yesterday.
Well it is quite obvious Reggie is saying that they need to do more to innovate their next console then JUST a HD bump. With Natal and the Ice Cream Cone coming on the market I am interested to see what Nintendo does to stay ahead with their next console when it comes to control.
QuoteThis is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.
I guess it'll be non-news when people stop asking about it. The interview was just published over at Kotaku yesterday.
Oh I'm not dissing the reporting about it, I was just stating that Reggie wasn't saying anything new.
It just came across wrong. I saw when it popped up yesterday, so I no its a new interview.
With Natal and the Ice Cream Cone coming on the market I am interested to see what Nintendo does to stay ahead with their next console when it comes to control.
I'm quite certain that the only reason the Wii library is so different from the others is because of the huge hardware difference. With everything comparable the third party support will probably be similar to the PS360 where both consoles have very similar lineups with first party efforts and a handful of major third party exclusives providing subtle differences. In that situation Nintendo will probably do quite well since their first party lineup is clearly the strongest. This assumes that third parties neglect the Wii entirely because of inferior hardware and not because of some dislike of Nintendo.
It's like the GC vs PSXbox never happened.
you and ian worry a LOT
you and ian worry a LOT
personally i don't think it'll work out, but if you wanna continue being matchmaker go ahead!
The perfect couple?
No way. He wouldn't play any of my Mario spin-off games with me...you and ian worry a LOT
The perfect couple?
you and ian worry a LOT
The perfect couple?
I sincerely hope Nintendo next console is NOT in HD.
I sincerely hope Nintendo next console is NOT in HD.
My wallet is already crying.I sincerely hope Nintendo next console is NOT in HD.
You're going to be sincerely disappointed.
They did with the Wii, and we know how that worked out.
Except, what type of Wii Sports type game can they make for Wii 2?
Geez, it's been so long since consoles have been below $250 that I forgot about the $200 price point. That seems ridiculously cheap nowadays, but truthfully, consoles today have so much more crammed under the hood. It's no surprise that they've all gone up in price.When you factor in inflation, the $250 Wii is actually cheaper than the $200 NES. So I don't really mind the $50 increase since it isn't really much of an increase when you look at it that way. But I still hope it doesn't rise any more.
It probably bugs the **** out of Nintendo though to have these analysts constantly pulling this BS out of their ass. How does one become a videogame market analyst when pretty much everyone on this forum knows more about videogames than you? Nintendo will probably release their next console in the second half of 2011 at the absolute earliest.
Well it is quite obvious Reggie is saying that they need to do more to innovate their next console then JUST a HD bump. With Natal and the Ice Cream Cone coming on the market I am interested to see what Nintendo does to stay ahead with their next console when it comes to control.
The next wii needs to morph the sensor bar into also a camera.
3d head tracking tech needs to be part of that.
Why does Reggie seem to a consistent way of coming off as condescending? Sounds like a mother scolding her baby.
Geez, it's been so long since consoles have been below $250 that I forgot about the $200 price point. That seems ridiculously cheap nowadays, but truthfully, consoles today have so much more crammed under the hood. It's no surprise that they've all gone up in price.
QuoteIt's like the GC vs PSXbox never happened.
Yeah but the Gamecube was the last place console and it was a follow-up to an underperforming console. Nintendo will likely enter the next generation as the market leader. I figure that will make a difference. I don't subscribe to the "everyone just hates Nintendo" theory, partially because it's idiotic from a business sense and I doubt that EVERY single videogame company in the world would do something that idiotic just for spite. And partially because we haven't seen Nintendo compete for third party support on a level playing field for a long time. Since the N64 there has always been something that screws things up.
Worthless? Didn't Modern Warfare 2 just set pretty much every sales record? There is worth there, but Microsoft and Sony didn't do a good enough job of capitalizing on that potential. Can we please stop spreading this idea that HD games are somehow completely immune to mass market success?
According to this article (http://www.myce.com/news/Analysts--HDTV-adoption-rate-doubled-in-past-year-15304/) by December of 2008, we were looking at about a 23% (26 million households) adoption rate of HDTV. That's only going to get higher this holiday season as prices continue to come down. I would argue that the type of consumer interested in buying an HDTV probably is the type of consumer interested in playing video games to at least some degree.
If this number jumps to 30-35%, that's a pretty healthy chunk of the market. Sure, some of those people probably don't know or don't care that their Wii doesn't output in HD, but can Nintendo continue to count on consumer technological indifference by 2011? Probably not. By holiday 2011, I'd imagine that HDTV adoption rates will be upwards of 40-45% and that most people will be surprised to learn their friend doesn't already have one.
I'm not sure if Nintendo will release a new system in quarter 4 of 2011, I think they may wait. It will depend on two things:
1. When their competitors choose to release new systems, and
2. How well the Wii is still sellling.
By that time the Wii userbase will be HUGE. Why give that up before you have to?
There's also the perception problem, when a new generation launches the old one is considered obsolete and about to be phased out, only the #1 of the old gen still gets new games. If Sony and MS stayed behind while Nintendo charges ahead they'd be considered obsolete, even worse if Nintendo decides they can do better than PS360 graphics for fairly cheap and the only claimed advantage of the systems evaporates.
People are graphic whores. The media are graphic whores. No matter how many times they throw $300 down, they're going to want more.
People are graphic whores. The media are graphic whores. No matter how many times they throw $300 down, they're going to want more.
QuotePeople are graphic whores. The media are graphic whores. No matter how many times they throw $300 down, they're going to want more.
It isn't $300, it's $600! That's why the PS3 was such a dud for a long time. People were willing to pay $300 but not the original asking price. Raise the specs again and you have to charge more than what people want to pay... again. It's the exact same ****ing problem... again. The whole POINT of the videogame industry is to make money. No one is willing to pay for a console that has these better graphics and it probably isn't cost feasible to even make them. To do so would be suicide. It would demonstrate not only a complete lack of business logic but just regular human intelligence.
Is not the Wii itself justification for not upping the graphics again? It's the market leader despite being a glorified Gamecube with a new controller. Who are all these graphics whores? Sony and MS are going to lose money by doing the same thing again to please the media and a few tech geeks? Where the **** do you even GO graphically from here. Photo-realism is probably the only thing that would truly blow people away and you just could not make money at that, not unless you could replace human artists with machines or some automated graphic design software. HD is here, it's supported. There just isn't anywhere else to go right now.
I think that Sony commercial was a bit Sexist. There are plenty of female gamers out there.Yeah but they all have a Wii.
