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Title: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 17, 2009, 01:46:05 PM
Producer Kensuke Tanabe believes there is room for more Metroid Prime titles.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20349

 In an interview with Official Nintendo Magazine, Nintendo producer Kensuke Tanabe, producer of overseas titles like Punch-Out!! and Excitebots, mentioned that there is room for one more Metroid Prime title on the DS.    


When asked about the possibilities of the Metroid series he said: "We are always planning to make new games in the Metroid Prime series. Depending on the timing and the situation, we cannot deny the possibility of realising it on DS or DSi."    


On the DS, there have been two Metroid Prime titles: Metroid Prime Pinball, a pinball-themed game developed by Fuse Games, and Metroid Prime Hunters, an online-based multiplayer game inspired by the story and gameplay of the Metroid Prime universe. Next year, the newest Metroid console title, Metroid: Other M, will be released, which is not associated with the Prime series.

Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2009, 01:52:36 PM
I hope they make it DSi only 12 player online/local multi.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: BwrJim! on November 17, 2009, 02:33:30 PM
I think I would like to see a full adventure prime this time.   Hunters took care of the multi, so I would like to see them focus on more adventure game in line with the cube games
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 17, 2009, 03:09:22 PM
Almost sounds like Malstrom's prediction of a traditional Metroid released along Other M is coming true.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 17, 2009, 03:19:51 PM
I wouldn't classify the Metroid Prime series as a "traditional" Metroid, but I don't know the context of his prediction.
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Post by: Halbred on November 17, 2009, 03:21:28 PM
Right, Mr. Tanabe, because Metroid Prime Hunters turned out so well. I think we'd all prefer a 2D handheld Metroid at this point. Personally, I'm really looking forward to the Metroid 2 remake project.:

http://metroid2remake.blogspot.com/

The cynic in me says it will never actually see the light of day, but a girl can dream.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 17, 2009, 03:24:44 PM
I think you could do a 2D Metroid which maintains the storyline and style of the Prime games, but it would still have to rely heavily on atmosphere and scanning for information. 
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 17, 2009, 03:48:11 PM
As long as it doesn't turn out like Metroid Prime: Hunters (thankfully they included that free demo at the launch so I could see how bad it was and not buy the game), I will be happy. It can be 3D (the  Metroid Prime games have been the best in the series), but don't base it on multiplayer.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2009, 04:43:39 PM
I hope this doesn't get made.  The DS is best for 2D games.  Hell, I can't even think of a good DS game that's in full 3D.  So I think a 2D Metroid would make better use of the system's strengths and we've had a new Metroid Prime this gen, we're overdue for a new 2D Metroid.

How will the controls work?  The DS lacks the Gamecube's analog stick and the Wii's remote.  Would it use the touchscreen like Hunters?  That game fucking SUCKS and its controls fucking suck.  I don't see how you could pull this off without it controlling like ****.

And finally there's the fact that so much of Metroid Prime's appeal is in the atmosphere.  Call me a graphics whore if you want but I think the game would fail to grab me with N64-esque graphics on a tiny little screen.  Metroid Prime just screams CONSOLE game to me.  I just don't think it work any other way.

This is probably one of the only series I can think of where the spin-offs are almost unanimously unpopular with the fanbase of the main series.  No Metroid Prime fan likes the DS Metroid Primes or even considers them real entries in the series.  If Kensuke Tanabe associates those games with the ones Retro made then he is completely out-of-touch with the actual fanbase of these games.  It seems like since day one Nintendo has focused so much on who isn't a Metroid Prime fan, who didn't buy the first game, who wanted it be a different genre.  It reminds me a lot of the Star Fox series in that Nintendo seems to specifically want to make a product that does not interest the original fans.

You can make this game for the DS but it has look like **** and play like **** so what is the point?
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 17, 2009, 05:16:34 PM
Make it a sprite shooter like WOLFENSTEIN
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on November 17, 2009, 06:34:31 PM
DS doesn't have the horsepower to do a Prime game justice, unless the whole thing is 2D, but then it wouldn't really be Prime.

Almost sounds like Malstrom's prediction of a traditional Metroid released along Other M is coming true.

From what little we know so far, Other M is more traditional than any of the Prime games.
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Post by: EasyCure on November 17, 2009, 07:04:01 PM
[insert "we want metroid dread' chant here]
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Nemo on November 17, 2009, 11:31:06 PM
No Metroid Prime fan likes the DS Metroid Primes

False. Metroid Prime Pinball was lots of fun.

or even considers them real entries in the series.

Well... this part is true.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Yankee on November 17, 2009, 11:47:51 PM
I hope this doesn't get made.  The DS is best for 2D games.  Hell, I can't even think of a good DS game that's in full 3D. 

The Legend of Zelda says hello.

But really I thought that Hunters was more of a multiplayer experiment than anything. And it was a good one before the cheaters too. Not to mention that the other characters in hunters were awesome, and way more interesting than those in Prime 3. But it was not a metroid game, it was a handheld fps. Actually, I wouldn't mind Hunters being branched off in its own line of games for consoles. But as far as DS they cant really capture the atmosphere, complexity, and controls of the prime games on the handheld.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Adrock on November 18, 2009, 12:28:40 AM
Hell, I can't even think of a good DS game that's in full 3D.
Dude, Phantasy Star Zero is the shiz. The Final Fantasy remakes are quality as well.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2009, 08:01:29 AM
I wouldn't classify the Metroid Prime series as a "traditional" Metroid, but I don't know the context of his prediction.

It is traditional (or "safe" if you prefer that) because it has a tradition in the form of three games already. Other M is a drastic change (story focus and all that, plus an untested developer) and apparently Nintendo likes to release safe sequels along with innovative ones (e.g. Fusion alongside Prime).
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 18, 2009, 08:29:39 AM
I'm sick to death of the Prime series. Why the hell can't the DS get a proper traditional Metroid game like the original NES and SNES versions? I've been waiting for a proper sequel to Super Metroid for years and years. When will we get that??

Metroid is not meant to be a 1st person Halo-clone. I wish Nintendo would set the franchise on its correct course again.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 18, 2009, 08:34:54 AM
I wouldn't classify the Metroid Prime series as a "traditional" Metroid, but I don't know the context of his prediction.

It is traditional (or "safe" if you prefer that) because it has a tradition in the form of three games already. Other M is a drastic change (story focus and all that, plus an untested developer) and apparently Nintendo likes to release safe sequels along with innovative ones (e.g. Fusion alongside Prime).

I don't think you can apply that logic if we're talking about a DS game.  None of those three games were on the DS, and as has already been mentioned, the Prime games on the DS were nothing like the Prime games on the Gamecube and Wii.  There's nothing safe or traditional about a Metroid Prime game on the DS.
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Post by: BwrJim! on November 18, 2009, 02:10:13 PM
graphics whore...

Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2009, 02:20:23 PM
I wouldn't classify the Metroid Prime series as a "traditional" Metroid, but I don't know the context of his prediction.

It is traditional (or "safe" if you prefer that) because it has a tradition in the form of three games already. Other M is a drastic change (story focus and all that, plus an untested developer) and apparently Nintendo likes to release safe sequels along with innovative ones (e.g. Fusion alongside Prime).

I don't think you can apply that logic if we're talking about a DS game.  None of those three games were on the DS, and as has already been mentioned, the Prime games on the DS were nothing like the Prime games on the Gamecube and Wii.  There's nothing safe or traditional about a Metroid Prime game on the DS.

And? Who says it'll be the same again? Who says they aren't going to do an explorationy Prime on the DS? That would be traditional even if some technical details would differ (Hunters differed due to its design focus, not because you just can't do exploration on the DS).
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 18, 2009, 02:23:17 PM
Honestly, playing a 5-10 hour Metroid Prime adventure on the DS would be incredibly uncomfortable if they went with the Hunters control scheme.  That, in and of itself, makes it a bad fit.
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Post by: BwrJim! on November 18, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
I did get the most cramping in my hand with that game.  I did enjoy the game, but the arthritis like feel I got was not happy.  I experienced the same feeling with Mario Kart aswell.   It wasnt until I found a way to lounge around with arms and legs in differnt places did I get comfortable to play it.   

Other M is supposed to be more traditional, and so I could see the DS getting a non traditional game (read 2d) simply as to not compete against itself.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Other M is about Samus as a character instead of exploration, it's made by Team Ninja instead of a proven team, how much more non-Metroid can you get?
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 18, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
I think Other M will probably have core mechanics similar to older 2D Metroid games, but a completely different type of gameplay progression. 
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 18, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
Other M is about Samus as a character instead of exploration, it's made by Team Ninja instead of a proven team, how much more non-Metroid can you get?
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Post by: Peachylala on November 18, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
Other M is about Samus as a character instead of exploration, it's made by Team Ninja instead of a proven team, how much more non-Metroid can you get?
Add Itagaki boob-physics and volleyball.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 18, 2009, 05:08:07 PM
It's not being made by Team Ninja instead of a proven team; It's being made by Team Ninja AND a proven team, R&D1.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 18, 2009, 05:13:49 PM
Other M is about Samus as a character instead of exploration, it's made by Team Ninja instead of a proven team, how much more non-Metroid can you get?
Add Itagaki boob-physics and volleyball.

I know you were kidding, but Itagaki doesn't work for Team Ninja anymore.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 19, 2009, 06:16:25 AM
I think Other M will probably have core mechanics similar to older 2D Metroid games, but a completely different type of gameplay progression. 

The progression is the main draw of Metroid, removing it makes it no longer Metroid.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: BwrJim! on November 19, 2009, 01:23:47 PM
and why is it Taboo to actually fly in her ship and use it.  There could be some insane/intense sessions where she has to go out onto the ship while flying super speeds to help repel some stuff.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 19, 2009, 01:24:37 PM
Other M is made by the same guy who made the other Metroid games in the "main" series.  We don't know what it will end up like but it's the vision of the same guy.  Metroid Fusion is Metroid IV.  This would logically be Metroid V.

So in that sense Other M is really what the original Metroid team would have done if they took the series into 3D instead of Retro.  In that sense you could consider it more traditional.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: KDR_11k on November 19, 2009, 03:33:10 PM
and why is it Taboo to actually fly in her ship and use it.  There could be some insane/intense sessions where she has to go out onto the ship while flying super speeds to help repel some stuff.

That's Star Fox you're thinking about, not Metroid!

Other M is made by the same guy who made the other Metroid games in the "main" series.  We don't know what it will end up like but it's the vision of the same guy.  Metroid Fusion is Metroid IV.  This would logically be Metroid V.

So in that sense Other M is really what the original Metroid team would have done if they took the series into 3D instead of Retro.  In that sense you could consider it more traditional.

I sure hope they don't because Fusion crapped on everything that made Metroid.
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Post by: NWR_DrewMG on November 19, 2009, 03:39:28 PM
I sure hope they don't because Fusion crapped on everything that made Metroid.

That's your opinion.  I think that it sacrificed a few key Metroid-esque traits but improved the actual gameplay significantly from Super Metroid.   Samus felt much more nimble and acrobatic in Fusion.
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Post by: Halbred on November 19, 2009, 05:11:29 PM
I really like Fusion, but there are a few times where the storyline bottlenecks your freedom.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Ian Sane on November 19, 2009, 07:29:03 PM
I thought Fusion was a good example of a Nintendo sequel changing things up enough that it feels essential and not just more of the same.  It was a good way to avoid making More Super Metroid.  I didn't like it as much as Super Metroid but I still liked it a lot.

Though I did prefer Metroid: Zero Mission more which was not really all that creative.  Oh well.  But I admired the effort.  Fusion still felt like Metroid to me.  It wasn't like they turned it in some FPS deathmatch game!
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: Nemo on November 22, 2009, 09:58:46 PM
Metroid Fusion is Metroid IV.  This would logically be Metroid V.

My understanding is that Other M takes place (chronologically) before Metroid Fusion. So, I doubt they'll call it Metroid V.
Title: Re: Metroid Prime to Continue on the DS?
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on November 23, 2009, 01:17:57 AM
A 2D Metroid game on the DS with the sort of visual detail found in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story would be totally awesome. I'm just saying.
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 23, 2009, 03:18:14 AM
To me the core of Metroid is exploration. In Fusion you weren't exploring, you were following orders. Same in Prime 3. Without its core it's not Metroid, it's just a Samus-themed action game. The actual combat is just a minor part, something you do while exploring but the primary mental process about Metroid is "where does this lead?".