NWR Interactive => Podcast Discussion => Topic started by: Jonnyboy117 on October 13, 2009, 05:12:27 PM
Title: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 13, 2009, 05:12:27 PM
All of these games are available on Virtual Console. Most or all of them are also included on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection for 360/PS3/PC.
The next poll will be a second-chance round for games selected runners-up of previous console-specific polls.
Feel free to use this thread to lobby for your favorite game. Poll results will remain secret until voting ends on Thursday, 10/22/2009. If you happen to see live results before then, please do not post them in the thread, but instead report the bug to a moderator.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: vudu on October 13, 2009, 05:20:13 PM
I'm horribly disappointed that Ghouls 'n Ghosts wasn't chosen and a little puzzled by the exclusion of Streets of Rage II.
Here are links to IGN's reviews of each game in case anyone's interested (I only use IGN because they still review all VC games, which is unfortunately a rarity these days).
Shining Force II - 9.0 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/916/916541p1.html) Vectorman - 8.5 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/912/912046p1.html) Kid Chameleon - 6.5 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/798/798137p1.html) Shinobi III - 8.0 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/827/827448p1.html) Comix Zone - 7.5 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/764/764818p1.html)
I'll be voting for Shining Force II. I've wanted to play this game for a long time and this will (hopefully) finally give me an excuse to.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_Neal on October 13, 2009, 05:47:42 PM
I gotta go with Kid Chameleon. It's hard as hell, but I loved it as a kid. Plus, how many games do you get to play as a big-headed "cool" kid who turns into a skull-shooting tank, Jason from Friday the 13th, and fight a lion.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 13, 2009, 05:49:16 PM
Sorry, we did Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts and that is enough from that series. The games are all quite similar, anyway.
As for Streets of Rage II, I know it is held in esteem, but it seemed unlikely to generate much interesting discussion on the show or on the forums. That's the same reason I didn't include a Sonic game -- they're all pretty good, but they are well-worn territory. I intentionally focused on games that I and most other people probably haven't played, yet seemed unusual or interesting enough to support a good discussion.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 13, 2009, 06:01:56 PM
Sorry, we did Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts and that is enough from that series. The games are all quite similar, anyway.
As for Streets of Rage II, I know it is held in esteem, but it seemed unlikely to generate much interesting discussion on the show or on the forums. That's the same reason I didn't include a Sonic game -- they're all pretty good, but they are well-worn territory. I intentionally focused on games that I and most other people probably haven't played, yet seemed unusual or interesting enough to support a good discussion.
Thank you Johnny for putting the kabosh on another Ghouls N Ghosts. Is Gunstar Heroes going to be in the poll? Or Altered Beast (J/k)? ;)
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 13, 2009, 06:17:33 PM
I tried to avoid games that we have talked about many times on the show, including Gunstar Heroes. This round in particular should be a fresh experience for most of us, and I think that's a good thing.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 13, 2009, 06:23:14 PM
I tried to avoid games that we have talked about many times on the show, including Gunstar Heroes. This round in particular should be a fresh experience for most of us, and I think that's a good thing.
I heard the Xmen games are pretty good on genesis, and are pretty easy to find. So perhaps one of those if possible.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Mop it up on October 13, 2009, 06:56:38 PM
Since there isn't a Sonic game on the list then I can't participate in this RetroActive.
Sorry, we did Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts and that is enough from that series. The games are all quite similar, anyway.
Yeah, I know. I was just kidding anyway. I actually played GnG a few weeks ago. I really enjoyed it (although maybe a bit less than Super GnG). So--if nothing else--that episode of RetroActive is responsible for my discovery of one of my new favorite series. ;D
As for Streets of Rage II, I know it is held in esteem, but it seemed unlikely to generate much interesting discussion on the show or on the forums.
That's a pretty good reason, I suppose. After the travesty of Ninja Spirit I probably shouldn't be allowed to nominate any more games, anyway.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: adadad on October 13, 2009, 09:12:11 PM
I really like Comix Zone, however the difficulty is prohibitive to the point that I can't really recommend it to anyone. I've no idea how many levels there are in the game, but it's rare for me to even get beyond the second level, and frankly I can't deal with having no saves, continues or passwords. For me Comix Zone is a tougher prospect than Super Ghouls 'n' Ghosts, or Ninja Gaiden, or even Battletoads which at least gave a little continuation leeway. It's such a shame as it's a fun brawler with a great style and an inventive approach to a standard genre. Viewtiful Joe clearly took a lot from it, and to sum the game up in a horribly reductive manner, I'd say Comix Zone is basically Viewtiful Joe minus the time changing abilities.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 13, 2009, 11:20:28 PM
I'd just like to point out that the Super Mario World discussion was the largest out of all RetroActives.
SMW was not well-worn territory, at least on our podcast. We've talked about Sonic many times.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 13, 2009, 11:34:10 PM
Shining Force 2 because I already d/l'd the first one and I loves me my SRPGs. I'm just not sure Vectorman would have enough to hold our interests for a full RetroActive.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 13, 2009, 11:43:10 PM
Shining Force 2 because I already d/l'd the first one and I loves me my SRPGs. I'm just not sure Vectorman would have enough to hold our interests for a full RetroActive.
I'm going with Shining Force 2, never played it and it could be interesting to play. All the other games I've played, and can't say I'm overly fond of them. Comix Zone is probably the only game in that list I'd vote for after Shining Force.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 14, 2009, 12:42:53 AM
Shining Force II is one of the few RPGs that I've played all the way through.
If it wins, you may want to look online for a code that lets you name all of your characters. It makes the experience a little more fun.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on October 14, 2009, 01:38:40 AM
I stopped playing Shining Force I pretty early on because it was a little crude and frustrating, and I had heard the sequel was better. I hope SFII wins, but whatever the outcome*, this'll be an excellent excuse for me to put that collection disc in my PS3.
*Except for Shinobi III. Dated action games with clunky/sloppy controls on top of already considerable difficulty are NOT my cup of tea.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 14, 2009, 01:52:31 AM
No MUSHA, no Pulseman (made by Game Freak), no Street of Rage, no Alien Soldier (Made by Treasure!)?!?!?!?! Bah awful!
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on October 14, 2009, 02:09:53 AM
Well the last Genesis game was a Treasure game. The lack of Pulseman is disappointing but I imagine they are going for games some people in Western markets are nostalgic for.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 14, 2009, 07:49:03 AM
Other Genesis games I loved as a tween include:
Bio Hazard Battle - side scrolling shmup, one of the better ones I've played. Aladdin - I'd love for it to be on the VC, but that will never happen. Castlevania Bloodlines - Probably my favorite pre SotN Castlevania Tyrants - a crude RTS that had you travelling forward in time. It was known for it's voice acting which was at the time pretty rare in a Genesis game from what I remember. X-Men - want to finish the game? Have your reset button handy. Weird.
I was always the genesis guy in the SNES/Genesis fanboy fights. It wasn't until much later that I learned, like all fanboys eventually do, that I was ignoring a whole lot of great games on the other system by being a fanboy.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 14, 2009, 09:24:33 AM
Well the last Genesis game was a Treasure game. The lack of Pulseman is disappointing but I imagine they are going for games some people in Western markets are nostalgic for.
If that is the case any of the Streets of Rage games should of been included, especially Streets of Rage 2 since that's regarded as the best one. Also these things would be excellent to discover a new game rather than sticking with only the nostalgic ones.
In a way I think that is the magic of Virtual Console, it feeds your nostalgia and you can discover wonderful retro games that might of missed out on.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2009, 11:32:16 AM
I stopped playing Shining Force I pretty early on because it was a little crude and frustrating, and I had heard the sequel was better. I hope SFII wins, but whatever the outcome*, this'll be an excellent excuse for me to put that collection disc in my PS3.
*Except for Shinobi III. Dated action games with clunky/sloppy controls on top of already considerable difficulty are NOT my cup of tea.
It took a bit for my Fire Emblem mind to adjust to the differences in Shining Force, but I like that you can revive your characters because then you aren't constantly resting your game so you are always leveling up your characters. Even if the main character dies you only lose some gold but keep all of the experience you got in the battle. I hate how you don't move all of your units at the same time, but it does add a different layer of strategy to the game because then you have to be more careful with your character deployment.
I'm going to try and beat the first one before we start the second one but I'm not sure how much I have left to go in it.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 14, 2009, 11:36:18 AM
While the turn order is different in SF than in FE, it is the same across all battles. After you've been in a battle for a few rounds you'll notice that you'll always have your turn before the same monsters every time. This only changes when the monsters have an ability to have multiple turns per round.
So if the order is:
Archer Enemy Main Character Priest Enemy Mage Warrior Enemy Enemy
Then at least you can plan on that being the same until the battle is over.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2009, 11:40:09 AM
I thought it changed based on speed? Like if you raised your character's speed then it altered the turn order.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 14, 2009, 11:43:13 AM
Hmm, maybe when establishing the turn order for the battle, you will get higher in the pecking order if you have a higher speed.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2009, 11:51:46 AM
This is from another person who loves the games about turn order so it's where I got all my information on the game.
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Yeah, there is no "set" turn order. It's all dynamic, and I believe speed only contributes to a formula (which explains why the same characters don't all go in order and then repeat the same pattern every "turn". You'll get some characters who manage to skip ahead of others in the rotation. Later in the game, it's not uncommon for some fast characters to go twice before another character even gets a move.
It does take some getting used to, simply because it doesn't use Fire Emblem and Warsong's "Player Phase" and "Enemy Phase" system. It's more like Final Fantasy Tactics where everyone uses individual initiative.
Also, this is in regards to the first game, not the second. Were we even talking about the same game?
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 14, 2009, 11:54:12 AM
Maybe I'm wrong - it's been a decade since I played the SF games to any significant degree.
I do remember there being a pattern between "rounds" but it was a flexible pattern that could seemed to be broken mainly by powerful enemies who would go twice per round. Maybe that correlates with a difference in the speed stat.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
I hated it when I first started playing. It felt like the computer was 'cheating'. I've gotten over it now, especially knowing that I can revive allies that die because I couldn't move them fast enough.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 14, 2009, 12:02:53 PM
SF is definitely not as deep of an experience as Fire Emblem, as you don't need to worry about characters dying off permanently, and I don't think the combat is quite as complex. It's a great "starter" tactical RPG, with really good music and colorful vibrant graphics. There's also a bit more exploration than the FE games, as you do wander the countryside and towns a bit, whereas I don't think FE has any of that.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on October 14, 2009, 12:52:51 PM
I fully understand why you chose these lesser known MegaDrive games for the poll (fresh discussion is always appreciated) but now I have no idea what to vote for as I don't know squat about any of the nominations. I was a Super Nintendo child, so apart from the famous ones, most MegaDrive software shoots straight over my head. What now?
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: vudu on October 14, 2009, 02:07:07 PM
Now you read the IGN reviews I provided in this post (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29609.msg555798#msg555798) and make an informed decision. Or you can check out NWR's VC reviews (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/virtualconsole.cfm)--they don't have all of them but they have some. Or you can quit being a baby and just for for Shining Force II. ;)
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on October 14, 2009, 03:24:02 PM
Now you read the IGN reviews I provided in this post (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29609.msg555798#msg555798) and make an informed decision. Or you can check out NWR's VC reviews (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/virtualconsole.cfm)--they don't have all of them but they have some. Or you can quit being a baby and just for for Shining Force II. ;)
Yep, I read the IGN reviews. Not the most informative and even if they were, it would still be difficult to make an informed decision. The previous poll on SNES games was so much easier to vote for, because I knew all six well. With this one, it's more like making a guess based on vague, limited knowledge and if I'm to spend 800 Wii Points, I would like to be sure of what I'm doing. I could look them up on YouTube, although that would somewhat defeat the point of this.
Damn you, Sega MegaDrive. If your games weren't so obscure, I wouldn't be in this predicament.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 14, 2009, 05:41:33 PM
I almost included Pulseman for the poll, but we talked about it a fair bit this summer, when it debuted on Virtual Console.
Alien Soldier is a game I would love to play sometime -- TYP is correct that it wasn't considered due to our having done Dynamite Headdy.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Sundoulos on October 14, 2009, 06:04:58 PM
Vectorman got my vote; I've wanted to try that out for quite some time.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_Neal on October 14, 2009, 08:25:29 PM
DrewMG - Hell yea about that Aladdin game. That is still to this day one of my favorite Genesis games. Beats the hell out of the SNES version in my opinion. Although that version is still awesome.
My prediction: Kid Chameleon ain't going nowhere judging by this discussion.
I'll call my brothers in Kid Chameleon arms to go to your local Virtual Arcade and be the coolest damn kid in the world and beat some evil dude.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 15, 2009, 12:50:00 AM
Kid Chameleon is the only game in the poll that I already own (on VC). And I actually think it's quite good. There are lots of interesting powers and TONS of levels. There are many secret passages in the levels, as in a Wario Land game. I would enjoy going back to it, but I haven't yet decided where my vote will go.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: SixthAngel on October 15, 2009, 05:23:07 AM
SF is definitely not as deep of an experience as Fire Emblem, as you don't need to worry about characters dying off permanently, and I don't think the combat is quite as complex. It's a great "starter" tactical RPG, with really good music and colorful vibrant graphics. There's also a bit more exploration than the FE games, as you do wander the countryside and towns a bit, whereas I don't think FE has any of that.
Who goes first is based on the speed stat.
I would not say it is any less "deep" than Fire Emblem because characters can be revived. Allowing characters to die puts a whole new strategy in the game. You can use characters as bait. Enemies can be made strong enough to kill characters, sometimes in one hit, or have spells that can kill anyone (desoul). There can be special boss enemies with unique attacks and many different regular enemies instead of the unending repetition of fire emblem. The sheer variety of enemies and characters makes Fire Emblem look like ****. I am a big fan of the towns and exploration you brought up because it lets you actually discover secrets instead of this random "stop on space x" and some new guy comes out or constant dialogue in between battles. The magic system also brings new strategy because it has limited uses and attacks multiple squares so unit crowding can cause big problems for you or the enemy. As my avatar shows I am a big fan of Shining Force.
If you pick Shining Force 2 the difficulty settings are normal, hard, super and ouch!. Super is the hardest, for whatever reason ouch! doesn't seem much different from hard where criticals happen a bit more often. The difficulty selection might be locked until you beat the game once but there is a code that lets you use it right away.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_Neal on October 15, 2009, 11:45:11 AM
Kid Chameleon is the only game in the poll that I already own (on VC). And I actually think it's quite good. There are lots of interesting powers and TONS of levels. There are many secret passages in the levels, as in a Wario Land game. I would enjoy going back to it, but I haven't yet decided where my vote will go.
Good to know someone else likes it, or more specifically, someone else who doesn't have childhood nostalgia for it. From playing it more recently (on Virtual Console), I feel like it hasn't hold up as well as I remember it, but I still have a ball with it. There's hundreds of levels and tons of different ways to go about the game. It is hard, but it's also a lot of fun, especially if you experiment with how you go about the game.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: vudu on October 15, 2009, 01:50:00 PM
Actually, I know so little about these games that I probably won't vote at all unless there's a tie.
I agree, I never heard about any of them... *Cough* Cho aniki *cough*
Keep up the great job with the podcast! love them XD
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: broodwars on October 19, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
I'm not particularly fond of the game but I do own it on VC, so I voted for Comix Zone. Besides, I'm morbidly curious what the RFN crew would have to say about the game so sadistically difficult that getting past the first level could be considered an accomplishment.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 19, 2009, 05:01:12 PM
I rented Comix Zone when it was relatively new, and yeah, I don't remember getting very far.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 19, 2009, 06:44:15 PM
I remember I was at a friends house back in the day and he had the game and I thought it was so cool. Always wanted to play it more so I am open to it winning. I don't remember it being brutally hard, though.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: gojira on October 19, 2009, 08:58:46 PM
I have Comix Zone on one of those Genesis Collections. I love the idea, but it was way too hard.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_Neal on October 19, 2009, 11:08:33 PM
I think I got to the third level one time in Comix Zone. That was a great day. It was never repeated.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 20, 2009, 11:22:35 AM
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Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 21, 2009, 02:05:57 AM
Voted for Comix Zone. Only game I have on the list of choices. It has been a while but I think I got to the 3rd level.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on October 21, 2009, 02:36:07 AM
Thank heaves for the Remove Vote function. I keep voting and changing my mind. I really am clueless about which of these games I'd like to play. I may just have to sit this one out and join in on the Second Chance poll. Now there I could make an informed decision.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: AV on October 21, 2009, 07:38:45 PM
comix zone FTW !!
i have it and never beat the damn game. It gets so fucken hard, even with invincibility I couldn't beat it. Stupid game would glitch up. It's a very cool concept but it's very tedious obscure puzzles.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Crimm on October 22, 2009, 04:27:44 PM
i have it and never beat the damn game. It gets so fucken hard, even with invincibility I couldn't beat it. Stupid game would glitch up. It's a very cool concept but it's very tedious obscure puzzles.
Shining Force II however, is congruous with everything.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: broodwars on October 22, 2009, 06:07:33 PM
Well, Comix Zone put up a good fight, but from the looks of the final results Shining Force II is the winner. Yay? Well, yet another RetroActive I get to sit out. I wasn't particularly fond of what little I played of the first Shining Force.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 22, 2009, 08:02:20 PM
I played through Shining Force II many years ago, but I haven't played it in ages. I've just gotten it from the VC and I'm off again. The music in this game really really takes me back.
For those of you who didn't love SF1, I'd still recommend checking out SF2. I think it's a more polished game.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: vudu on October 22, 2009, 08:20:31 PM
Hooray for Shining Force II! I'm really excited to play this game. ;D
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: that Baby guy on October 22, 2009, 08:21:20 PM
I've made it halfway through Shining Force II twice now.
Yup.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_DrewMG on October 22, 2009, 08:41:21 PM
I'm playing through on one of the harder difficulties, and they're not kidding around. It's significantly harder.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: AV on October 23, 2009, 12:55:22 AM
Well now that voting is over I'm sad to see my choice didn't win. I voted that way to hear the interesting discussions that would follow, I'm not sure if shinning force will be a great listen. RPG's are hard to really describe unless you played them.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on October 23, 2009, 01:45:23 AM
That's precisely why I'm interested in trying out the second in the series, brood. :)
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on October 23, 2009, 02:37:59 AM
When I redeem some more points, I'll download Shining Force II (which I voted for finally after changing my mind three times). I've next to nothing to go on but the positive critiques given in this thread, so this had better be good. ;)
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: that Baby guy on October 23, 2009, 02:42:19 AM
It depends: If you like turn-based strategy RPGs, then yeah, go for it. My problem is what I hinted at before: After a few hours, I just decide I need a break from the genre. It seemed like a fine game to me, though.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 23, 2009, 03:16:53 AM
Wow, Comix Zone put up a pretty good fight. I would be down with voting for it later down the road.
Guess I need to set up my Wii now. I got hooked on the DS and have yet to set up my Wii because of it.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 23, 2009, 01:36:23 PM
Well now that voting is over I'm sad to see my choice didn't win. I voted that way to hear the interesting discussions that would follow, I'm not sure if shinning force will be a great listen. RPG's are hard to really describe unless you played them.
I don't think we'll have any trouble describing it since we'll be playing it. And you won't have any trouble following the discussion if you play along too! I hope you'll give it a shot.
Now that voting is over, I'll admit that I'm very relieved Comix Zone didn't win. The more people talked about it, the more I remembered my childhood agony when I rented it so long ago. I really wanted to enjoy it, but I couldn't due to the insane difficulty. And I was more skillful and far more patient back then. I have no desire to suffer through another SGnG-style RetroActive.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: adadad on October 25, 2009, 09:42:49 PM
Now that voting is over, I'll admit that I'm very relieved Comix Zone didn't win. The more people talked about it, the more I remembered my childhood agony when I rented it so long ago. I really wanted to enjoy it, but I couldn't due to the insane difficulty. And I was more skillful and far more patient back then. I have no desire to suffer through another SGnG-style RetroActive.
Agreed. I imagine conversation would quickly peter out as it became evident that none of the listeners or crew had been able to get past the third level. Although I suppose there are in-game cheats, right? I never checked.
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: NWR_Neal on October 25, 2009, 09:53:23 PM
I mourn for Kid Chameleon, but Shining Force II is a good pick. I wish I had more time to sit down and play it with everyone. :(
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: vudu on October 26, 2009, 01:23:36 PM
Can we get a discussion thread for the game?
Title: Re: RetroActive Poll: Genesis Edition
Post by: Stratos on October 26, 2009, 05:43:36 PM