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Title: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Crimm on May 25, 2009, 07:04:29 PM
Post your feedback to our predictions (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/specialArt.cfm?artid=18520), as well as your own, here.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
Link's broken in the forums.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 26, 2009, 11:20:37 AM
Fixed
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: ShyGuy on May 26, 2009, 11:55:52 AM
Not too many wacky and wild predictions. I think Miyamoto will have a new motion plus game in the works. Maybe that is Pikmin 3, we will see.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 12:08:44 PM
Maybe Miyamoto's game is Dyanmic Slash.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 26, 2009, 12:15:20 PM
A lot of the staffers predicted a new Zelda. Is there some indication of that or is it just wishful thinking? Do you guys know something we don't? ;)
I'm not particularly optimistic but I can't help but be excited. Go figure. Whatever happens I think this E3 will really give an indication of what the Wii's legacy will be. I tend to associate the Wii with really lousy third party support and a non-gaming focus from Nintendo. After the negative reaction to last year's show I think how Nintendo reacts to that will indicate where their focus really is. If they consider the old market to be important then last year was a mistake and they will try to make up for it. And with third party support, come on, the Wii is about halfway through the normal console life-cycle. If the Wii isn't the focus of third parties now then it NEVER will be. It'll be spinoffs and shovelware forever. If things are to improve then this E3 there needs to be major titles from the big third parties. Not Resident Evil or Dead Space spinoffs. It has to be on par with Dragon Quest X.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Crimm on May 26, 2009, 12:18:09 PM
To my knowledge, we have no inside information regarding a new Zelda.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
Wii's E3 life pretty much parallels GameCube's E3 life. So at this time in GameCube's E3 life, both Reggie and Zelda debuted (2004). 2008's E3 was a downer, just as 2003 was (Pac Man VS).
If this E3 cycle is supposed to parallel the previous one properly, not only will the New Zelda be shown, but Reggie will announce Mini-Reggie(TM) or maybe his Ass-Taking Name-Kicking Reggie Twin Brother.
Considering Wind Waker came out in 2003 with a new Zelda shown in 2004, this cycle's 2nd Zelda is actually overdue.
And since Metroid Prime and Prime 3 came out in similar time frames, Retro's next project is also due this E3. If there was a brand new Metroid in the works based on MP3's engine, it would come out this November...
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 26, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
I looked at it from the standpoint of there not yet being a Zelda console game built from the ground-up for Wii, and the fact that Retro Studios has to be doing something other than porting Metroid Prime 2 to Wii and making a new front-end for the trilogy. You don't need a 50-person team to make Metroid Prime Trilogy, that's for sure.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: jakeOSX on May 26, 2009, 01:34:17 PM
dragon quest X is still some of the biggest news around, let's hope that gets a bit of play during E3. while we are at it, why not bring over guild wars? we could use a good online game.
i know we are in time for a new zelda, but somethng doesn't feel right for it. i suspect we are another year off from a zelda. and i think that it will be (for better or worse) NOT another ocarina of time style game. i think it will be different. how? that i am not sure of. i would just like to minimized the block pushing puzzles in this one.
i do suspect there will be a kid icarus/something else old but cool type of announcement.
oh and remember nintendo bought the xenosaga company? wouldn't it be nice if they did something with that? you know, like put those games on nintendo hardware?
just saying.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
Hmm. Amerika and Nintendo fans in general don't care about Dragon Quest. What can Nintendo do to change that [NOW]?
If the next Zelda has more mind-fucking 3D puzzles in the scope and ambition of Metriod Prime 2's 3D morphball puzzles, I'd appreciate it.
Oh yeahhhhh, Xeno company. They made Disaster: Day of Crisis. SMART MOVE NINTENDO, BUYING THE COMPANY TO PREVENT THE PROPERTY FROM GOING ELSEWHERE. NOTHING'S GONNA COME OUT OF THEM. D= D= D= D= D= D= D= D= D= D= D= =[ =[ =[ =[ =[ =[ =[ =[ =[
Id' sooo wish for another Battalion Wars game, at least with robust "here's a big map, figure it out" missions like the first and not the linear missions of the 2nd game. And have a more robust online mode.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 26, 2009, 02:04:53 PM
BWiii needs Wii Speak support, I played BWii a while back with fellow staff member Nick DiMola with Skype. Skype helped out with our terrible amazing Co-op skills where we totally didn't kick our opponent's asses.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 02:09:03 PM
I played Co-op with Deguello some years ago. We kicked 3 out of 4 asses, and we managed to utilize the in-game help/cover/whatever notifiers.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 26, 2009, 02:53:14 PM
With Spirit Tracks in development I just figured that Nintendo wouldn't release a new console Zelda around the same time as a portable one. And it is being made by EAD, isn't it? It isn't like in the past when Capcom handled the portable Zeldas.
I think I'm skeptical of a new Zelda and a new game by Retro being revealed at the same E3 because, well, it sounds too good to be true. But Metroid Prime 3 and Super Mario Galaxy came out in the same year. You never know I guess.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2009, 02:56:47 PM
I do think that Nintendo will move upstream this E3, MotionPlus is probably the harbinger of that: It improves the motion controls to allow more complex actions so most likely complex games will follow. Talking about core games here would be WRONG though, core doesn't mean "appeals to us", it means the specific values the HD consoles sell their games on (primarily graphics and cinematic style at the expense of length and difficulty).
It'll also be make or break time for Dynamic Slash, if that doesn't get shown at E3 it won't see a western release. I sure hope it gets shown though, information is really sparse and they've probably progressed enough to have something presentable at this time.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 02:59:50 PM
So for everything to work, Retro has to be making Zelda.
!!
and Silicon Knights is making Man Icarus.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: King of Twitch on May 26, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
Pikmin 3 and WSR playable for sure. They've had a year and a half with Mutton Plucks so I hope they can make it a must-have device. Some sort of circus game (think Mario Galaxy with the bubble-balancing) and any kind of free-roaming jet pack game would be very exciting.
They've had smash bros, excite bots, and mario kart over the past year; i wonder what other multiplayer genre they might tackle besides fighting/racing?
Without any idea of Miyamoto's current hobbies other than kidnapping, we are just shooting in the dark.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 03:29:49 PM
That reminds me, Sega should bring Lotion Puss Beach Spikers. The first had excellent multiplayer, rivalling Mario Tennis.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on May 26, 2009, 04:11:13 PM
I can tell you exactly why so many people expect a new Zelda, besides the obvious potential with MotionPlus.
1998 - Ocarina of Time 2000 - Majora's Mask 2002/3 - Wind Waker 2006 - Twilight Princess 2009 - ?
It's right on schedule.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 04:21:12 PM
I AM NOT RINK, BUT I DO KNOW HIM.
Expect that dude to walk out on stage again.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 26, 2009, 05:42:57 PM
I for one am getting sick of these negative Motion Plus name alternatives.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on May 26, 2009, 07:31:50 PM
I just hope that these are simply predictions and not expectations, because that is a good way to set yourself up for disappointment.
There are things I am hoping for but I am not expecting anything besides a showcasing of Wii Sports Resort. If that doesn't happen then that's the only way I'd be disappointed, since everything else is up in the air.
I for one am getting sick of these negative Motion Plus name alternatives.
Second'd.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2009, 07:37:54 PM
Isn't there a rule that if a game shows up at too many E3s, it's destined to flop?
confirm/deny/Cloud/view results
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 26, 2009, 07:59:40 PM
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There are things I am hoping for but I am not expecting anything besides a showcasing of Wii Sports Resort. If that doesn't happen then that's the only way I'd be disappointed, since everything else is up in the air.
Well, ****, if Nintendo doesn't show THAT then what are they going to show? They would pretty much have to stand up on stage and say "hi, we're releasing no games at all for the rest of the year."
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I for one am getting sick of these negative Motion Plus name alternatives.
What I find funny is that it seems that everyone who uses them is very pro-Wii and tends to like what Nintendo was been doing and is looking forward to Motion+. These names aren't being used to bash Motion+.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on May 26, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
There are things I am hoping for but I am not expecting anything besides a showcasing of Wii Sports Resort. If that doesn't happen then that's the only way I'd be disappointed, since everything else is up in the air.
Well, ****, if Nintendo doesn't show THAT then what are they going to show?
I don't know what they are going to show, but that's the point. Wii Sports Resort is the only game that's pretty much guaranteed to be shown, beyond that there's really no indication of what else might be there. Because of this, it is best not to expect anything such as a new Zelda or a game from Retro or something along those lines because it has just as much chance of not happening as it does actually happening. To set expectations is to set yourself up for disappointment; it is better to expect nothing and be surprised at anything which does come up.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 26, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
"To set expectations is to set yourself up for disappointment; it is better to expect nothing and be surprised at anything which does come up."
Setting up for the disappointment is all part of being a Nintendo fan. It happens every year, and even when the bombs zal droppen, there is always something else to bitch about. It the circle of Nintendo Life. Don't knock it, just enjoy it.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 26, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
I just hope that these are simply predictions and not expectations, because that is a good way to set yourself up for disappointment.
There are things I am hoping for but I am not expecting anything besides a showcasing of Wii Sports Resort. If that doesn't happen then that's the only way I'd be disappointed, since everything else is up in the air.
I for one am getting sick of these negative Motion Plus name alternatives.
Second'd.
Rest assured that in my case my predictions are just that; predictions. I do expect Motion Plus to be shown off simply because its released a few days after the show ends.n But as you read in my predictions the games that will be shown off are likely the ones that will hit around launch and at least one new title.
I've learned from previous E3 experiences to not get myself excited since Nintendo is the kind of company to go left when everyone expected them to go right.
Have you also noticed that I didn't predict Zelda? I honestly doubt that we will see it this year. Maybe the next, but not this year. We will see Spirit Tracks during the DSi section of the show and that's it.
I'm dubious of E3 as a whole. They went back to the old format because sponsors and attendees threatened to leave the show for good. If this E3 with all its spectacle and hype fails to captivate people then E3 as a whole is dead and very misguided, not knowing whether its a tradeshow for businessmen or a boobie, tittie, ass show for sweaty overworked developers with delusions of grandeur.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: AV on May 26, 2009, 09:56:50 PM
I expect Nintendogs Wii edition with Wii motion plus support.
WiiWare and Virtual Console get free demos.
DSi download: Super Mario Lost Levels 2 ( all the e-reader levels compiled together) This will be a HUGE gamble and HUGE Push by Nintendo to get people to buy DSi and download games.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 26, 2009, 09:59:39 PM
I expect Nintendogs Wii edition with Wii motion plus support.
While this is expected, I think that the market for pet simulators for both Wii and DS have been so saturated with wannabes (thanks Ubi!) that Nintendo might opt to never make a Nintendogs sequel.
It will be interesting, however, to see how they handle the conversion from DS to Wii. The DS version was created to use the DS's capabilities to its full potential. Porting it to be Wii would mean to overhaul the system while still being Nintendogs.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Crimm on May 26, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
I have a prediction.
Nintendo will show Wii Motion Plus 2.0 Coming July 2010
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on May 26, 2009, 11:47:59 PM
WSR WarioWare Retro's game Third Party games
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: EasyCure on May 27, 2009, 12:06:25 PM
I expect Nintendogs Wii edition with Wii motion plus support.
While this is expected, I think that the market for pet simulators for both Wii and DS have been so saturated with wannabes (thanks Ubi!) that Nintendo might opt to never make a Nintendogs sequel.
Or they can introduce the next great Wii peripheral, WiiPup!
With WiiPup, Wii users of all ages can experience all the fun of owning, raising and playing with a puppy without the complications of feeding, urinating, or vaccinations! Just insert your WiiMotion+ enabled Wii Remote into the WiiPup accessory and WiiPup comes alive!
With its built in sensors, WiiPup can feel how and where you're petting it, and with the WiiMotion+ enabled WiiRemote inserted, WiiPups orientation is tracked on screen where you can;
-Take your WiiPup for a virtual walk -Compete in Best of Show competitions -Purchase fashionable outfits and accessories*
All from the fun and safetey of home!
*Physical outfits and accessories also available for dressing up your WiiPup IRL sold seperately.
WiiPup MSRP 34.99 WiiPup Fashion MSRP 20.99+
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Invincible Donkey Kong on May 27, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
Quote from: Zachary Miller
What do I really want to see at E3 ’09? No specific game or fix. I just want Reggie (and/or Iwata) to get up on stage and apologize to their fanbase. Guys (and girls) like me helped Nintendo become a household name, and the last few years have been a series of face-slaps. It’s about time Nintendo acknowledged that, and started working to sell games to people who actually care about games, and the brand they’re attached to.
A SPECIAL APOLOGY TO ZACHARY MILLER
Dear Zach, Here at Nintendo we are very sorry to have undervalued the tireless efforts of our dedicated fans in their relentless pursuit of making Nintendo a household name. You are absolutely correct to suggest that the hundreds of people, working thousands of hours, costing millions of dollars, delivering quality products for Nintendo in the past few years were an insult to unpaid self qualified journalists such as yourself. It was your championing of our name over the school lunchtable, university lawn and now your literary masterpieces on a Nintendo focused website that brought us international recognition and success. At E3 this year we hope to erect a shrine in memory of fallen warriors who fought alongside you in the console wars and hope that you will continue to serve your regiment with the vigore that allowed you to review games we published at an average mark of 8.5 out of 10.
**** that loser, I'm taking your name and writing it down on the dog list
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: RABicle on May 27, 2009, 12:40:43 PM
I wasn't consulted for this article? I guess I'll just give my E3 script on the weekend.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 27, 2009, 01:02:02 PM
What do I really want to see at E3 ’09? No specific game or fix. I just want Reggie (and/or Iwata) to get up on stage and apologize to their fanbase. Guys (and girls) like me helped Nintendo become a household name, and the last few years have been a series of face-slaps. It’s about time Nintendo acknowledged that, and started working to sell games to people who actually care about games, and the brand they’re attached to.
A SPECIAL APOLOGY TO ZACHARY MILLER
Dear Zach, Here at Nintendo we are very sorry to have undervalued the tireless efforts of our dedicated fans in their relentless pursuit of making Nintendo a household name. You are absolutely correct to suggest that the hundreds of people, working thousands of hours, costing millions of dollars, delivering quality products for Nintendo in the past few years were an insult to unpaid self qualified journalists such as yourself. It was your championing of our name over the school lunchtable, university lawn and now your literary masterpieces on a Nintendo focused website that brought us international recognition and success. At E3 this year we hope to erect a shrine in memory of fallen warriors who fought alongside you in the console wars and hope that you will continue to serve your regiment with the vigore that allowed you to review games we published at an average mark of 8.5 out of 10.
**** that loser, I'm taking your name and writing it down on the dog list
My only problem with this post is that the real Reggie wouldn't hide things behind spoiler tags or censor his language.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 27, 2009, 01:48:24 PM
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To set expectations is to set yourself up for disappointment; it is better to expect nothing and be surprised at anything which does come up.
I've tried to this in the past but realistically I can't. You can't just "turn off" expectations. You have them or you don't. I don't specifically have to see something specific but there's kind of a line that as long as Nintendo passes it I will find E3 exciting and if they don't I'll be disappointed. I can't just decide to move that line so that no matter what I'm satisfied. Even if I assume the worst I don't WANT the worst and will still be disappointed.
It's like how once or twice a year I buy a lottery ticket and I'm always disappointed I didn't win. I never expect to win because the odds are so slim but I WANT to win so I'm always disappointed even though success was not at all expected.
So I can expect nothing at E3 but would still be disappointed with that. I can't just change that.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: D_Average on May 27, 2009, 04:17:55 PM
Here are my first party Nintendo Predictions
What We Should See: Wii Pikmin A glimpse of Wii Zelda Smiles A non Mario Mario game New software for Wii Fit New Donkey Kong Country for DS What We Won't See: A Mario Galaxy Sequel A New Super Mario Bros Sequel A New Star Fox A New Earth Bound What I Hope For: Wave Race WiiTubers A new IP that doesn't involve exercise Back To The Future Wii
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on May 27, 2009, 06:00:36 PM
Setting up for the disappointment is all part of being a Nintendo fan. It happens every year, and even when the bombs zal droppen, there is always something else to bitch about. It the circle of Nintendo Life. Don't knock it, just enjoy it.
I sometimes enjoy seeing the rants people come up with, especially when people with an opposite view step in and create a huge back-and-forth. But I'm not like that myself because I know better.
Rest assured that in my case my predictions are just that; predictions.
Most of the staffers did seem a bit cautious with their predictions, although yours was probably the most realistic. Though I would think that a new WarioWare designed for Wii Motion Plus would be a lot more likely than Mario Party 9 using the accessory since WarioWare isn't really multiplayer-focused like Mario Party is; Smooth Moves has pass-the-controller multiplayer which would be a good idea when Wii Motion Plus is new.
I've tried to this in the past but realistically I can't. You can't just "turn off" expectations. You have them or you don't.
I suppose that's true. If you're expecting something huge from E3 then you are basically buying a lottery ticket, with the cost being your disappointment. Coincidentally I never buy lottery tickets.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 27, 2009, 08:33:06 PM
I toss Mario Party 9 in because Hudson could implement some MP features without forcing people into the new peripheral. Think of it as the microphone in Mario Party 6 and 7; it was bundled with the games and hyped as a great way to play Mario Party but wasn't required to play them.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2009, 08:45:44 PM
I've tried to this in the past but realistically I can't. You can't just "turn off" expectations. You have them or you don't.
I suppose that's true. If you're expecting something huge from E3 then you are basically buying a lottery ticket, with the cost being your disappointment. Coincidentally I never buy lottery tickets.
You can't win if you don't play the game.
Just buy one ticket, and then you have tohe opportunity to see how good it feels to win when your ticket is picked.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 27, 2009, 10:19:03 PM
I agree with BnM. If you don't play, you can't win.
Part of the fun of E3 (IMO) is dreaming up the ridiculously awesome things that will come out of it. Sure all of it won't happen. As a matter of fact, most of it won't happen, but it's damn fun to dream.
Unlike the 14 year old version of myself, I understand that when my dreams aren't fulfilled, life will still go on. Also, being a Mets fan I've grown accustomed to the "there's always next year" mantra.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on May 27, 2009, 10:57:16 PM
I'm really hyped for this year's E3, mainly because there is a lot we don't know about. Not to mention we finally get to see what M+ is all about.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: D_Average on May 27, 2009, 11:20:01 PM
I'm really hyped for this year's E3, mainly because there is a lot we don't know about. Not to mention we finally get to see what M+ is all about.
Everyone including MS & Sony seem to be blowing their loads early this year. My only guess is because they all think this is gonna be a HUGE E3 for Nintendo, who has been holding their cards close to their chest, and they don't want to be forgotten 2 seconds after they make an announcement.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on May 28, 2009, 01:06:28 AM
I toss Mario Party 9 in because Hudson could implement some MP features without forcing people into the new peripheral. Think of it as the microphone in Mario Party 6 and 7; it was bundled with the games and hyped as a great way to play Mario Party but wasn't required to play them.
Someone on here had an idea (insanolord?) to use the Wii Motion Plus similar to the GCN microphone by having it used for pass-the-controller games and the 1-vs-3 games. That would be a good way to do it if it is used in MP9, and then if WM+ is a success (likely) then MP10 could make more extensive use of it.
If it is bundled with MP9 then I'll actually be getting one of the accessories.
I agree with BnM. If you don't play, you can't win.
If you don't eat the cereal you won't get the prize right? Wrong. They now put the toy on top of the cereal bag in the box. Should I open the box upside down so that I have to work for the prize?
That's the first I have seen of it. If I see it again that person is gonna get slapped.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: jakeOSX on May 28, 2009, 02:07:14 AM
ROBOTECH CRYSTAL DREAMS
sigh.
but what I expect? i expect to hear about a bunch of games i want now, will have to wait for, will have to save money to buy and won't have enough time to play.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2009, 03:15:10 AM
Riqa by Retro?
say 10x fast?
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 28, 2009, 12:56:03 PM
I forgot to include it in my predictions, but I stand by my podcast prediction of Good-Feel making a Star Fox game. It might be too early for Good-Feel to be showing anything at E3, though.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: mantidor on May 28, 2009, 01:09:47 PM
Honestly I love this new Nintendo that only announces games that are to be released at a maximum of six months after said announcement. If you aren't going to release it this year then don't mention it, long waits are horrible and make anything a dissapointment (example: Twilight Princess).
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: vudu on May 28, 2009, 01:57:38 PM
I agree with BnM. If you don't play, you can't win.
If you don't eat the cereal you won't get the prize right? Wrong. They now put the toy on top of the cereal bag in the box. Should I open the box upside down so that I have to work for the prize?
It seems to me you like arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 28, 2009, 02:20:05 PM
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I forgot to include it in my predictions, but I stand by my podcast prediction of Good-Feel making a Star Fox game. It might be too early for Good-Feel to be showing anything at E3, though.
The Wario Land: Shake It! guys? Well I really like that game so on that hand it's encouraging but it's 2D. Star Fox has to be 3D. What 3D games have they made?
Though with Star Fox, right now only EAD taking back the franchise would give me any interest in it. It needs a big comeback and it has to prove itself to me.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Peachylala on May 28, 2009, 02:41:51 PM
Good Feel, Ian, is made up of the people who worked at KCE Kobe, whom made the Ganbare Goemon series. With EAD's direct support, they could easily make a great Star Fox/*insert Nintendo game here*. Wario Land: Shake It! was awesome, their awesome development expertise should continue.
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If you aren't going to release it this year then don't mention it, long waits are horrible and make anything a dissapointment (example: Twilight Princess).
Twilight Sellout was a disappointment due to the fact Nintendo was pandering to the annoying fanbase, thus making it Ocarina of Time 2.0, with more suck.
Excluding the Ocean King Temple, Phantom Hourglass is what Twilight Princess should've been. A good story line, interesting side-characters, and it didn't take long to get into.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: mantidor on May 28, 2009, 03:39:12 PM
If you aren't going to release it this year then don't mention it, long waits are horrible and make anything a dissapointment (example: Twilight Princess).
Twilight Sellout was a disappointment due to the fact Nintendo was pandering to the annoying fanbase, thus making it Ocarina of Time 2.0, with more suck.
The long wait was also a factor on that. Much more time to listen to the annoying fanbase and let it influence the development in a bad way. I remember one of the designer of the game saying in one of those interesting interviews how that fanboy reaction to the E3 2004 trailer was important to them. Imagine what kind of image of the "hardcore" player they had and what kind of pressure.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 28, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
You can all speak for yourselves, Twilight Princess was hands down the best Zelda game yet.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2009, 04:00:40 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Somehow I ended up in COMEDY CENTRAL
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 28, 2009, 04:43:26 PM
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Twilight Sellout was a disappointment due to the fact Nintendo was pandering to the annoying fanbase, thus making it Ocarina of Time 2.0, with more suck.
When playing through it I wondered if Nintendo did that on purpose. Like Nintendo didn't want to make that game and was pissed that Wind Waker was coldly received so they made Twilight Princess as generic as possible to "prove" Wind Waker's superiority and make it out like anyone asking for realistic Zelda was against innovation or creativity. I don't think anyone was really calling for Ocarina of Time 2.0. What it was was simply that Nintendo showed us all a really awesome Zelda video at Spaceworld and then gave us a cartoon Zelda that looked NOTHING like what we had gotten hyped up about. The bait and switch is largely the reason for Wind Waker backlash (though I maintain that it looks NOTHING like Zelda) and that's why people wanted realistic Zelda. Nintendo showed something, we wanted it, Nintendo took it away and we bitched and I think we were totally in the right there. The way Nintendo handled Wind Waker was a major PR **** up, kind of like last year's E3 actually.
Anyway Wind Waker isn't creative because of its look. Take away the look and it's just a very conventional Zelda game with a really boring ass overworld. I'd say it's not very original or creative at all. We wanted a look that better matched the Spaceworld footage and was preferrably on land since the ocean was so lame. It was Nintendo's decision to make it so generic and use a Hyrule that was nearly identical to OoT. I figure it was either Nintendo's protest against making a game they didn't really want to make or they greatly overcompensated to the negative reaction to Wind Waker and assumed everyone was angry about change itself, when it really was the specific nature of the change that people didn't like.
Phantom Hourglass is the worst Zelda entirely because the controls make it an utter chore to play though. Spirit Tracks will probably be the first Zelda game I don't purchase and that sucks because there is a good game trapped somewhere in PH. :(
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Peachylala on May 28, 2009, 05:53:53 PM
Twilight Sellout was a disappointment due to the fact Nintendo was pandering to the annoying fanbase, thus making it Ocarina of Time 2.0, with more suck.
*snip*
Says the person who is basically Pro Daisy's punching bag for lolz. >/
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 28, 2009, 06:12:42 PM
Twilight Sellout was a disappointment due to the fact Nintendo was pandering to the annoying fanbase, thus making it Ocarina of Time 2.0, with more suck.
When playing through it I wondered if Nintendo did that on purpose. Like Nintendo didn't want to make that game and was pissed that Wind Waker was coldly received so they made Twilight Princess as generic as possible to "prove" Wind Waker's superiority and make it out like anyone asking for realistic Zelda was against innovation or creativity. I don't think anyone was really calling for Ocarina of Time 2.0. What it was was simply that Nintendo showed us all a really awesome Zelda video at Spaceworld and then gave us a cartoon Zelda that looked NOTHING like what we had gotten hyped up about. The bait and switch is largely the reason for Wind Waker backlash (though I maintain that it looks NOTHING like Zelda) and that's why people wanted realistic Zelda. Nintendo showed something, we wanted it, Nintendo took it away and we bitched and I think we were totally in the right there. The way Nintendo handled Wind Waker was a major PR **** up, kind of like last year's E3 actually.
Anyway Wind Waker isn't creative because of its look. Take away the look and it's just a very conventional Zelda game with a really boring ass overworld. I'd say it's not very original or creative at all. We wanted a look that better matched the Spaceworld footage and was preferrably on land since the ocean was so lame. It was Nintendo's decision to make it so generic and use a Hyrule that was nearly identical to OoT. I figure it was either Nintendo's protest against making a game they didn't really want to make or they greatly overcompensated to the negative reaction to Wind Waker and assumed everyone was angry about change itself, when it really was the specific nature of the change that people didn't like.
Phantom Hourglass is the worst Zelda entirely because the controls make it an utter chore to play though. Spirit Tracks will probably be the first Zelda game I don't purchase and that sucks because there is a good game trapped somewhere in PH. :(
Dale Gribble would have been proud...
I understand that Twilight Princess was a disappointment for many, but really? You HONESTLY believe Nintendo made the game as a big f*ck you to their fans? REALLY?
While I admit Twilight Princess was not a perfect game there was a lot of love put into it, believe it or not. The music was great, it had some amazing moments, the graphics were great, the characters were great and even if the gameplay borrowed too much from Ocarina of Time it did provide some amazing moments.
At this point, I honestly believe that fans will never be pleased with Zelda, no matter who makes the game, what type of graphics it uses or what gameplay innovations brings to the table. Ocarina of Time was great, but fans still prefer Link to the Past. Majora's Mask was great, but it was too different from Ocarina of Time. Wind Waker was great, but felt rushed. Twilight Princess was great, but was too much like Ocarina of Time. Finally, Phantom Hourglass was great but a lot of people didn't get the touch screen controls.
Sensing a pattern? It seems that no matter how great a Zelda game ends up being fans will still find something to complain about and claim they can do better.
In my case, I'll just shut my mind off and enjoy the ride. So far I have enjoyed all the Zelda games that I have played. Even Wind Waker, which is my least favorite Zelda so far, manage to create a lot of wonderful moments in both gameplay and character presentation.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on May 28, 2009, 06:39:46 PM
I agree with BnM. If you don't play, you can't win.
If you don't eat the cereal you won't get the prize right? Wrong. They now put the toy on top of the cereal bag in the box. Should I open the box upside down so that I have to work for the prize?
It seems to me you like arguing just for the sake of arguing.
I was being facetious but I guess it failed...
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 28, 2009, 07:51:21 PM
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You HONESTLY believe Nintendo made the game as a big f*ck you to their fans? REALLY?
Not a "**** you" but possibly that they felt obligated to make a realistic Zelda so they didn't have the same creative passion for it. They still did a good job because they have pride in their work. Though it's probably more likely that they just interpretted the negative reaction to Wind Waker to mean "make more of the same".
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At this point, I honestly believe that fans will never be pleased with Zelda, no matter who makes the game, what type of graphics it uses or what gameplay innovations brings to the table. Ocarina of Time was great, but fans still prefer Link to the Past. Majora's Mask was great, but it was too different from Ocarina of Time. Wind Waker was great, but felt rushed. Twilight Princess was great, but was too much like Ocarina of Time. Finally, Phantom Hourglass was great but a lot of people didn't get the touch screen controls.
Sensing a pattern? It seems that no matter how great a Zelda game ends up being fans will still find something to complain about and claim they can do better.
To be fair it's not always the same person complaining about each game. For example I would say both N64 games absolutely nailed it but others would disagree.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: mantidor on May 28, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
I actually can't wait for the new Zelda, no matter my opinion of Twilight Princess. And I did love the game, but it still left a weird taste. The problem with PH is from what I've read is always the temple of the ocean king, a dungeon I loved, which was awesome but gamers just didn't get it. The controls are perfect and honestly I've only heard Ian complaining about them, but its Ian.
The reason for wanting the next Zelda is what happened with Mario Galaxy, TP was not only under this pressure to be "gritty" and "real", it changed platforms mid-development, and only as an strategy to push the wii launch, anyone who thinks different is just naive. Now with complete freedom from such pressures, specially having to shoehorn controls to a game that wasn't design around them, we have the chance to get the mario galaxy of the Zelda franchise this time.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 28, 2009, 09:51:23 PM
Any Lotion Puss Link's Adventure has to measure up to Zack & Wiki in terms of inventiveness. Giving us Toilet Princess Plus won't cut it.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BwrJim! on May 28, 2009, 11:09:21 PM
how about this, miyamoto takes personal intrest and development in zelda again.. <<<<shocker>>>>
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on May 28, 2009, 11:15:17 PM
How about we not argue about Twilight Princess any more, OK?
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 28, 2009, 11:21:30 PM
how about this, miyamoto takes personal intrest and development in zelda again.. <<<<shocker>>>>
Considering that Twilight Princess was easily the best Zelda game EVER, the series is fine being handled by Aonuma. I hope he stays in charge of the series as long as he is still with Nintendo.
I only see a small minority of people complaining about the game, but you get that with every game.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on May 29, 2009, 12:21:21 AM
TP was fantastic, but I'd still prefer they wipe the slate clean.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on May 29, 2009, 12:45:06 AM
I can't believe I still haven't played Zelda: Twilight Princess. I really need to get that before the next one comes out (and so I can join the resistance against the haters).
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: KDR_11k on May 29, 2009, 10:38:32 AM
More on topic, when's Nintendo's E3 conference scheduled to happen?
now all you have to figure out is if he means PST or PDT (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pst+in+gmt&l=1)
hint: the current time on the West Coast is 9:43am
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: KDR_11k on May 29, 2009, 12:46:11 PM
Last time I tried to use google for a timezone conversion it didn't yield useful results.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2009, 12:51:04 PM
thats why I gave you the math (through Google) & gave you the current Pacific time. Using one and/or the other you should be able to figure out the GMT
p.s. Forum time has been an hour behind ever since DST, its not a big deal, but thought i should bring it to someones attention.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: vudu on May 29, 2009, 03:10:10 PM
On Topic: I predict we'll see whatever Retro's been working on for the past 2 years. I predict we'll get a teaser video for the next Zelda game, but it will not be playable on the show floor (maybe in private meetings). I predict Red Steel 2 and Wii Fit Plus will be part of Nintendo's press conference.
When playing through [Twilight Princess] I wondered if Nintendo did that on purpose. Like Nintendo didn't want to make that game and was pissed that Wind Waker was coldly received so they made Twilight Princess as generic as possible to "prove" Wind Waker's superiority and make it out like anyone asking for realistic Zelda was against innovation or creativity.
I'm sorry, but if this isn't trolling, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: D_Average on May 29, 2009, 04:02:29 PM
Wow, whats up with all the Zelda talk in this thread? Whats the big deal? Am I the only one who's never played a Zelda game?
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: vudu on May 29, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
Let me put it into terms you'll understand. (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=21821.msg510707#msg510707)
"When listening to Alive 2007 I wondered if Daft Punk did that on purpose. Like Daft Punk didn't want to make that album and was pissed that Alive 1997 was coldly received so they made Alive 2007 as generic as possible to "prove" Alive 1997's superiority and make it out like anyone asking for another live album was against innovation or creativity."
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on May 29, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
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Am I the only one who's never played a Zelda game?
On a Nintendo forum? Yeah, probably. ;)
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: D_Average on May 29, 2009, 04:44:13 PM
Come to think of it, I've completed Links Crossbow. But I just can't get into RPG's, its like bad medicine on my eyes.
And Vudu, clever analogy, but man, a bit creepy.....
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 29, 2009, 06:29:06 PM
Come to think of it, I've completed Links Crossbow. But I just can't get into RPG's, its like bad medicine on my eyes.
And Vudu, clever analogy, but man, a bit creepy.....
The Legend of Zelda is NOT an RPG. Its an action adventure title heavy on exploration and puzzle solving with real time combat and exciting boss battles.
Believe me it should entertain you more than the typical RPG.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 29, 2009, 06:37:58 PM
Wow, whats up with all the Zelda talk in this thread? Whats the big deal? Am I the only one who's never played a Zelda game?
PM me your Wii number and I will gift you a Zelda game.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 29, 2009, 06:43:39 PM
I've never played the original Metroid or Super Metroid ;) :) :P
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 29, 2009, 06:53:19 PM
Ha Ha nice try Black N Mild. :D
I guess if you enter Secret Santa people will know what to get you. ;)
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: KDR_11k on May 30, 2009, 04:30:01 AM
With this whole swine flu panic and the separate conference for Japan I wouldn't be surprised if Dynamic Slash shows up at the japanese conference only...
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: AV on May 30, 2009, 10:36:47 AM
New prediction:
Chrono Cross is announced for DSi.
First DSi exclusive. Mostly for horse power.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: D_Average on May 30, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
Wow, whats up with all the Zelda talk in this thread? Whats the big deal? Am I the only one who's never played a Zelda game?
PM me your Wii number and I will gift you a Zelda game.
Hey, thanks for the offer, much appreciated! But one of my buddies already gifted me the first Zelda awhile ago. I just couldn't get into it. I think I need to start off with something more modern. I've been thinking for a while to give Wind Waker a shot, as I like the cell shaded style. Maybe if I see it a GT this weekend I'll pick it up since they're having the buy 2 get 1 sale again.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: nintendo1945 on May 30, 2009, 03:17:23 PM
If there was a paper luigi like jared is predicting, I would be happy.
If Spirit Tracks is compared to MM, I would be ecstatic
F-Zero would be awesome
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: D_Average on May 31, 2009, 01:20:39 AM
Not to derail the train but I did pick up WInd Waker today. I'll be sure to post impressions soon, to let everyone know it its worth playing or not. ;)
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: stevey on May 31, 2009, 09:13:48 PM
Wii
Metroid Prime 4: It never ends Super Mario Bros.: The seven dimensions (4/5 are no longer enough for Miyamoto for Mario games) The legend of Zelda: The adventers of Girl Link! F-zero Starfox Luigi Mansion 2 Pikmin 3
DS
New Super Mario Bros. 2 Zelda ST Metroid Dread Mario and luigi 3 Kat and Ana or Ashley from Wario Ware Original IP
Other
New Gameboy (third piller) Reggie Kicks the asses of everyone at the G4, IGN, and NWR for not being faithful enough to Nintendo. Miyamoto blasts onto the stage on a mini f-zero racer. Iwata where a suit of money onto the stage
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on May 31, 2009, 10:36:34 PM
yup. you save Link. It plays pretty differently more magic and RPG elements. sounds like a fresh way for the series to evolve That actually sounds pretty cool.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: RABicle on June 02, 2009, 04:30:57 AM
I can't believe I still haven't played Zelda: Twilight Princess. I really need to get that before the next one comes out (and so I can join the resistance against the haters).
Woah! Word up man. I've 100%ed TP but I've never played even a second of Super Mario Galaxy.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on June 02, 2009, 08:50:41 AM
Yu suck.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: BwrJim! on June 02, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
Wii's E3 life pretty much parallels GameCube's E3 life. So at this time in GameCube's E3 life, both Reggie and Zelda debuted (2004). 2008's E3 was a downer, just as 2003 was (Pac Man VS).
If this E3 cycle is supposed to parallel the previous one properly, not only will the New Zelda be shown, but Reggie will announce Mini-Reggie(TM) or maybe his Ass-Taking Name-Kicking Reggie Twin Brother.
bout time someone else noticed what was going on this time around. It can be actually easy at this point to figure out whats going on in nintendos brain, i mean marketing formula.
Aside from the above, I would like to see the elder scrolls make a spash! Considering Wind Waker came out in 2003 with a new Zelda shown in 2004, this cycle's 2nd Zelda is actually overdue.
And since Metroid Prime and Prime 3 came out in similar time frames, Retro's next project is also due this E3. If there was a brand new Metroid in the works based on MP3's engine, it would come out this November...
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: AV on June 02, 2009, 01:50:28 PM
i was wrong. oh well.
Title: Re: FEATURES: E3 '09 Predictions
Post by: stevey on June 02, 2009, 02:04:43 PM
