Nintendo World Report Forums

NWR Interactive => TalkBack => Topic started by: famicomplicated on October 07, 2008, 05:13:24 AM

Title: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: famicomplicated on October 07, 2008, 05:13:24 AM
Ground-up remake of the PlayStation classic to hit Nintendo console
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=16901

 Namco Bandai revealed through a recent Famitsu article, that they are working on a remake of the original PlayStation version of Klonoa for Wii. Fans of the original may find the levels familiar, but the game's graphical presentation is being overhauled featuring stylistic cel-shaded graphics.    


Controls are being kept simple with no plans currently to use any motion-based gestures or pointing. The game will control using the Wii Remote in its sideways position, with the 1 button used to throw enemies and the 2 button to jump.    


The game will also feature a four player multiplayer mode, but no details have been announced about this mode yet.    


Klonoa: Door to Phantomile is scheduled for a December 4th release in Japan.

Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 07, 2008, 08:55:57 AM
Is there a good chance it'll come stateside?
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 07, 2008, 10:08:32 AM
Who knows with Namco...They have the most bogus localization strategy on any publisher in existence... =\
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 07, 2008, 12:00:10 PM
I'm looking forward to this, this is supposed to be a great game.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Caliban on October 07, 2008, 04:26:26 PM
Want!
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Smoke39 on October 07, 2008, 05:35:01 PM
<3 Klonoa.  I will smack them if they don't localize it.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NWR_Neal on October 07, 2008, 06:00:04 PM
I really hope this gets localized. I've heard nothing but great things about it.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 07, 2008, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: Smoke39 on October 07, 2008, 05:35:01 PM
<3 Klonoa.  I will smack them if they don't localize it.

wow, where have you been?
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Smoke39 on October 07, 2008, 08:58:53 PM
Eh, I felt like all I was doing was bitching about Nintendo and modern gaming in general so I decided I should just leave for a while.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 30, 2008, 06:22:13 PM
if anyone is interested Namco sent me a Klonoa Survey via email.  If you want to check it out here is a link http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=2qr8HR0wgsGpd4_2f0Yk6kFQ_3d_3d

I went through a few parts and it seems like it is a lot about the character design......hat or no?  floppy ears or no?  YOU DECIDE, lol.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 30, 2008, 06:57:53 PM
This is quite possibly one of the stupidest things Namco has done in the past, uh, week...

Why can't they just LEAVE HIM AS HE IS?
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 30, 2008, 07:00:44 PM
Klonoa confirmed in Soul Calibur 5
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 30, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
So the good news is Namco is actually thinking about localizing this game.  The bad news is, they want to give him a lame Poochie style extreme makeover for America.

Oh well, as long as the actual game makes it over here I'll be happy.  As long as any changes are only cosmetic I'm fine, but if they start messing with the gameplay itself, then RAAAAGGEEEEE.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 30, 2008, 10:12:38 PM
oh i just noticed kotaku put up the image i was referring to:

http://kotaku.com/5071318/klonoa-may-get-poochied-for-american-wii-release
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 30, 2008, 10:24:30 PM
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/Maxi_80/Video%20Games/klonooooooooa.jpg)
Here is the image that WuTangTurtle is talking about.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 30, 2008, 11:00:10 PM
good gawd

don't splash water on it, and don't feed it after midnight.

Might as well change it to Wall Man or Shadow the Hedgehog.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: ShyGuy on October 30, 2008, 11:02:38 PM
Those ears aren't hands.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: DAaaMan64 on October 31, 2008, 05:17:37 AM
Konoa: Door to the Pheromone


is how eye red it.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: blackfootsteps on October 31, 2008, 05:30:10 AM
The new one looks like a Ratchet clone.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Caliban on October 31, 2008, 11:36:27 AM
I told them to use the guy on the left.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 31, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: Luigi Dude on October 30, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
The bad news is, they want to give him a lame Poochie style extreme makeover for America.

What are you referring to by "Poochie style?"
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 31, 2008, 04:09:44 PM
A character in The Simpsons (more specifically, a focus-group character created for The Itchy & Scratchy Show in hopes of increasing the show's popularity)...Everyone hated him... ='D
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on October 31, 2008, 05:35:09 PM
How is he going to fly without floppy ears?
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 31, 2008, 07:14:17 PM
A star-powered jet pack.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on October 31, 2008, 07:38:52 PM
he looks like a vgcats......cat.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 31, 2008, 10:16:28 PM
Quote from: UltimatePartyBear on October 31, 2008, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: Luigi Dude on October 30, 2008, 08:38:05 PM
The bad news is, they want to give him a lame Poochie style extreme makeover for America.

What are you referring to by "Poochie style?"

You must be too young for old Simpsons. :(
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on November 01, 2008, 08:42:31 AM
I just noticed that the comparison image is skewed: The old Klonoa is an ingame pic, the new one concept art. Makes the new design look cleaner.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 03, 2008, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: Schadenfreude on October 31, 2008, 10:16:28 PM
You must be too young for old Simpsons. :(

No, I'm too old to watch your baby cartoons.

Quote from: KDR_11k on November 01, 2008, 08:42:31 AM
I just noticed that the comparison image is skewed: The old Klonoa is an ingame pic, the new one concept art. Makes the new design look cleaner.

What game is that shot from?  I noticed it was fuzzy, but the cel-shading was good enough that I didn't even question that it was hand drawn (assuming it's not a sprite with oddly angular hat, shoes, and gloves).
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on November 03, 2008, 11:43:24 AM
I'd assume it's the current ingame model or something before Marketing decided to intervene.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Ian Sane on November 03, 2008, 02:47:49 PM
Quote
You must be too young for old Simpsons.

I'm old enough that I don't even regard Poochie as "old" Simpsons.  Hell, it's been so long since I've even watched the show that Poochie is like a more recent episode in my mind even though it came out when I was in high school.

F*ck.  Poochie IS old.  He's older than Klonoa though by only a couple of months.

I'm very much of the idea that if the IP needs to be retooled in order for the company to be confident in it, then why use that IP?  Why not just make some new character?  The whole idea of sequels and spin-offs and franchises is that the IP's name recognition helps sell the product.  The whole reason to even make any Klonoa product is because Klonoa should be a strong enough brand to make a profit.  If it's not then from a business perspective why bother?  If they have to Poochify Klonoa then the Klonoa name is worthless.  Anyone who knows Klonoa will not appreciate the make-over while anyone who would like the make-over will have never heard of Klonoa in the first place.

The only justification is a lack of creativity.  If they make a new character they have to make a new game and recycling this one is obviously easier and cheaper.  Maybe I've just become too cynical but it seems like a bunch of suits met in a boardroom to discuss new kid-oriented product for the Wii and decided that remaking an old game would cut costs and they could just retool the character design to something they figure would appeal more to today's kids, who wouldn't realize they're playing a ten year old game anyway.

Hell, I just don't trust any reused content on the Wii.  I just think they're trying to scam the Wii userbase because evidence shows that they can.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on November 04, 2008, 02:05:48 AM
Well, many people who played an IP for kids when they were young seem to want a grown-up version of the IP when they're in the blood-and-gore age bracket, resulting in games like Shadow The Hedgehog...
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 04, 2008, 07:02:07 AM
I don't think many past puberty wanted Shadow the Hedgehog... =(
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on November 04, 2008, 12:47:22 PM
Quote from: KDR_11k on November 04, 2008, 02:05:48 AM
Well, many people who played an IP for kids when they were young seem to want a grown-up version of the IP when they're in the blood-and-gore age bracket, resulting in games like Shadow The Hedgehog...

Has that ever really worked out?  I can't recall any game character ever going through a transformation like that and coming out for the better.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: IceCold on November 05, 2008, 08:54:48 PM
Bomberman.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on November 06, 2008, 03:02:31 AM
Megaman X.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: vudu on November 06, 2008, 01:42:24 PM
Prince of Persia.  ;D
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 06, 2008, 02:00:37 PM
:reggie:
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on November 06, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
I'm not sure how bomberman changed.  I forgot about megaman x, looks a lot cooler I'll give it that.  As for Prince of Persia his latest change, I just don't like.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 06, 2008, 07:00:57 PM
Castlevania Judgement
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 07, 2008, 05:25:39 PM
Bomberman didn't change for the better.Look up Bomberman Zero. I think it was a Xbox or 360 title.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: vudu on November 07, 2008, 05:51:30 PM
Maxi doesn't understand sarcasm.Look up Sarcasm. I think it is on Dictionary.com.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 07, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
I will do that later Vudu.Thanks.

Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 07, 2008, 06:26:31 PM
!
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on November 08, 2008, 03:35:32 AM
omg i forgot about that abomination.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 08, 2008, 09:41:03 AM
Marvel Comics in association with Hudsonsoft, presents a Ridley Scott film.

Robert Downey Jr. is...

Bomberman
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Caliban on November 27, 2008, 10:26:12 PM
I just watched this game's japanese trailer, and I think it looks great. I hope this games is released everywhere else other than Japan.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Smoke39 on November 28, 2008, 03:32:29 AM
I'll cry if this game doesn't get localized.  But I'll also cry if they actually use that awful Klonoa redesign.

I'm expecting Namco to make me cry. );
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Caliban on November 28, 2008, 02:47:13 PM
The vid clearly shows that Klonoa looks just like old Klonoa. Unless of course when they localize it they change their minds.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Smoke39 on November 29, 2008, 02:02:30 AM
Wasn't that the point?  Modify Klonoa's character design for the US release in an attempt to make him more appealing to westerners? 
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Luigi Dude on November 29, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
As long as we get the game I'll be happy.  Namco is one of the worst companies when it comes to localizing games, and if messing with Klonoa's design is what it takes for it to come over then I'm for it.  As long as that's all they change and not the actual gameplay itself.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on November 30, 2008, 04:12:54 AM
Well, the redesign didn't have large enough ears to fly so maybe they'd cut that...
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Luigi Dude on November 30, 2008, 04:53:08 AM
Quote from: KDR_11k on November 30, 2008, 04:12:54 AM
Well, the redesign didn't have large enough ears to fly so maybe they'd cut that...

Not if his boots are Rocket Boots. :o

Rocket Boots would make him even more extreme. 8)
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: Smoke39 on November 30, 2008, 04:33:52 PM
Stopit you guys.  You're making me cry. D;
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: ShyGuy on January 04, 2009, 05:16:59 PM
So I've never played a Klonoa game, but I was curious how this remake looked compared to the original. This guy did a tour of level 3-1 on the Japanese Wii version. http://wiifolder.com/?p=142

I then did a search on youtube and found a video walkthrough of the same level. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmhKzT0A9uA

All in all, the game seems to play exactly the same just now with "next gen" graphics and cinematic cut scenes.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 04, 2009, 05:32:29 PM
I never played ANY of the Klonoa games so this is a godsend. Even if its a port of an 11 year old game I am sure there were many like me who missed out on the games. I wouldn't be surprised if Banco is trying to re-start the franchise on the Wii, eventually leading to a brand new game.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: KDR_11k on January 05, 2009, 03:44:26 PM
I got the GBA game Empire of Dreams from the bargain bin but haven't seen any others for sale so a remake is welcome.
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: WuTangTurtle on February 06, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
Just watched some videos of it at IGN, reminds me of Mario and that's always a good thing.  I'll have to get it when I have some monies ;D
Title: Re: Klonoa : Door to Phantomile Announced for Wii
Post by: NovaQ on February 07, 2009, 05:23:37 PM
This game is rad ass. Its enemy inflation mechanic makes it distinctive from other platformers. It also has very enjoyable music. I've got the PS One copy and I'm still planning on picking this version up - especially if it has some extra content (mirror mode, for one). I just hope Namco (or whatever team it has been passed onto) doesn't adjust the difficulty to make it easier. I remember it providing a decent challenge by the end, but Klonoa 2, while also enjoyable, was too easy. That, and that it still comes to the States despite its apparent floppage in Japan.