Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: NWR_insanolord on April 02, 2013, 09:14:24 AM
Title: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 02, 2013, 09:14:24 AM
In recent years, Nintendo has taken the strategy of partnering with a number of smaller third party development studios to supplement their own software.
Companies like Next Level Games, who made the recent Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon for 3DS, as well as the Mario Strikers games and the Wii reboot of Punch-Out, and Monster Games, who developed cult favorite Excitebots, as well as 3DS launch title Pilotwings Resort and the upcoming 3DS port of Donkey Kong Country Returns, have worked a lot with Nintendo in recent years. At the same time, companies like Renegade Kid and WayForward, while not formal partners in the sense of the companies above, have been loyal supporters of Nintendo's download platforms.
My question to the NWR community is which of these companies, whether mentioned here or not, do you feel has been most beneficial to Nintendo on their current and last-generation hardware?
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on April 02, 2013, 10:58:39 AM
I think Team Ninja have been the most beneficial partner. Afterall, they gave us the much beloved Metroid: Other M; which was a love letter to Metroid fans, giving them everything they could possibly want and more, and which in no way tried to exploit the great wealth of feeling for Super Metroid.
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Joking aside, my favourite 'partner' would probably be Next Level. I really enjoyed Strikers Charged, adored Punch Out!! and am really digging Dark Moon so far.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: shingi_70 on April 02, 2013, 12:00:32 PM
Next Level Games
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 01:20:40 PM
Wayforward, dsiware would be a mess without shantae and the mighty series.
i'm quite fond of 5th cell but don't feel they are very important in the grand scheme of things
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 02, 2013, 01:21:33 PM
Capcom.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 01:25:26 PM
Maybe you haven't heard of it, it's a little niche...
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for Wii U.
internal development studio, within capcom but not capcom itself, capcom is a developer as much as nintendo is (as in not really) that studio(capcom production studio 1) would count for this but capcom wouldn't :D
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: UncleBob on April 02, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
Holy....
An internal development studio (one of many), wholly owned and operated by Capcom and Capcom doesn't get to call themselves developers.
And now, Nintendo isn't a developer?
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 01:59:42 PM
now you get it *claps* they are a publisher, nintendo is a publisher, EAD Tokyo just has a better name then production studio 1.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Ceric on April 02, 2013, 02:00:11 PM
Maybe you haven't heard of it, it's a little niche...
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for Wii U.
internal development studio, within capcom but not capcom itself, capcom is a developer as much as nintendo is (as in not really) that studio(capcom production studio 1) would count for this but capcom wouldn't :D
That's really splitting hairs. When Nintendo pays the Developer its royalties who does it pay? Capcom. Who does the HR? Capcom. Who do you negotiate with? Capcom.
By my understanding the different production studios are not their own taxable entities so in the end that's like saying Cashiers at Sears are a different department so they are a different company.
Also JP used the term Partners not Individual Studios. Technically using the term used and he does say companies you could branch out to even McDonald's as a Developer of Food and Marketing. I say they have been beneficial in maintaining the main stream Nintendo Brand.
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Post by: Adrock on April 02, 2013, 02:05:55 PM
What the what happened here...
I'd say Capcom as well.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on April 02, 2013, 02:20:45 PM
Arguing that Capcom is not a developer is really semantic. Capcom has a number of development arms and they have an umbrella organisation which effectively self publishes. They're a developer and publisher.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: broodwars on April 02, 2013, 02:50:41 PM
Hmm...I'd have to side w/ Capcom, with Next-Level Games as the runner-up. Capcom's support on Nintendo platforms may be all over the place compared to their support elsewhere, but they can usually be counted on every console generation to bring a handful of noteworthy titles to Nintendo (RE Revelations on 3DS; RE4, RE Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, and Zack & Wiki on Wii; etc.).
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Post by: Stogi on April 02, 2013, 02:56:40 PM
My hands down to this day favorite third party game is still Time splitters 2 and that came out on the GC. So either Free Radical or Eidos. Whichever you prefer.
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Post by: regin on April 02, 2013, 03:35:22 PM
Definitely Sandlot. They made the best motion plus game on the Wii and gave it the best online multiplayer seen on that system as well.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: alegoicoe on April 02, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
Looking at it from Japan's perspective I'll say SquareEnix and Capcom, who publish the biggest franchises in the country solely on Nintendo platforms. On this side of the world, well, I can't think of a single company Nintendo has healthy relations with except Ubisoft.
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Post by: Louieturkey on April 02, 2013, 05:48:11 PM
My favorite would be Capcom. RE4 Wii edition is one of the best games ever. I also enjoyed the RE UC & DC games as well.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
the question is importance, and outside of monster hunter(which is huge don't get me wrong, is huge in japan) capcom hasn't done much
whos the cave story publisher, nicalis, they've done things
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Post by: nickmitch on April 02, 2013, 06:24:12 PM
I'd like Capcom more if they made more Viewtiful Joe for Nintendo systems.
I'd like Square-Enix more if they made more Final Fantasy Tactics for Nintendo systems.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on April 02, 2013, 06:24:26 PM
the question is importance, and outside of monster hunter(which is huge don't get me wrong, is huge in japan) capcom hasn't done much
? It may not have sold gangbusters, but Resident Evil: Revelations got a lot of critical acclaim. Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition was one of the best 3DS launch games. Capcom also does the popular Ace Attorney series.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Ian Sane on April 02, 2013, 06:25:49 PM
Ultimately I find that the companies that Nintendo typically works with these days lack a clear identity that makes them distinct from Nintendo's internal teams. Like they just make the sequels that Nintendo themselves doesn't have the time to work on. One thing I loved about Rare was that they made games that were as good as Nintendo's but had a distinct style to them that made it obvious that this wasn't some EAD game, it was a Rare game. Silicon Knights is the butt of jokes these days but Eternal Darkness was unique and different from typical Nintendo fare. I liked that a lot.
Much of the appeal of third party support is variety. You get different devs with different ideas and approaches and styles. I remember when Nintendo made a big stink about having Sega and Namco working on F-Zero and Star Fox and it just demonstrated to me how Nintendo does not get the whole damn point of third party support. Sega's F-Zero turned out to be great but if they didn't make it, some Nintendo team would have. We didn't gain anything from Sega's "support". Now if we got Virtua Fighter out of it, okay, there's a game that isn't already on the console and is very different from anything Nintendo provides themselves. Back in the 2D days third parties like Capcom, Square and Konami were a major contribution of the "Nintendo experience". They made lots of games for the NES and SNES and those games were different than Nintendo's first party offerings. The combination of all those developers resulted in a very strong library of games covering a variety of styles and genres.
I don't know what Next Level or Monster Games truly bring to the table. It seems to be that their best quality is taking directions from Nintendo. How did they leave their mark on a Punch-Out game that is so derivative that it literally has only one new character or a Pilotwings game that literally lifts level structure right out of Wii Sports Resort? I'm glad they didn't **** this stuff up but being competent isn't what I'm looking for in a developer. Needless to say I'm not looking forward to the next game from those devs because they'll just be some generic Nintendo sequel. If Next Level turned it down, Nintendo would just find some other dev to do it and the game would be exactly the same. They're pretty much just outsourcing the grunt work.
What would impress me would be a dev team with its own unique style, working on their own creation, that is different from what Nintendo themselves would normally make, and with Nintendo's role being mostly to ensure high standards of quality. I would like all games to be as good as Nintendo's (or as good as Nintendo's game WERE ten years ago) but I don't want all games to play like Nintendo's.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 06:31:38 PM
the question is importance, and outside of monster hunter(which is huge don't get me wrong, is huge in japan) capcom hasn't done much
? It may not have sold gangbusters, but Resident Evil: Revelations coming soon to be released on your console got a lot of critical acclaim. Super Street Fighter IVrerelease number 3 was one of the best 3DS launch games. Capcom also does the popular Ace Attorney series.
Megaman Legends 3 was also very important OH WAIT!! along with the contribution of 6 different versions of Street Fighter 2 on VC for us to enjoy...
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Mop it up on April 02, 2013, 07:31:19 PM
If we're talking about companies where Nintendo funded the projects, then I'd probably pick Monster Games for ExciteBots, though I don't really know enough about the company side of things to know who has made which games.
If we're just talking third-parties in general who made games for Nintendo platforms, I'd probably pick Square-Enix.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Kytim89 on April 02, 2013, 07:54:42 PM
If I had to say who was my favorite then I could not pick a single company to choose as my favorite. I consider Nintendo to have a inner circle of second and third party (western) developers that I am very pleased to see games developed from them for either the 3DS or Wii U.
Monster Games
Wayforward
Next Level Games
Vigil (pity that this never happened)
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 08:12:17 PM
sega has been pretty good to us (ironically enough,) we got the first good console sonic game since the genesis, the whole deal with sonic rush, things like Rythem thief, gamegear and genesis are on the virtual console, they have been HUGE when you think about it...
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 02, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
sega has been pretty good to us (ironically enough,) we got the first good console sonic game since the genesis
Sonic Adventure say "Hi". It was a really good Sonic game, even most gamers that think Sonic has become crap agree this was a good Sonic game (except for the terrible fishing sections with Big the Cat).
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 08:21:01 PM
sega has been pretty good to us (ironically enough,) we got the first good console sonic game since the genesis
Sonic Adventure say "Hi". It was a really good Sonic game, even most gamers that think Sonic has become crap agree this was a good Sonic game (except for the terrible fishing sections with Big the Cat).
it's a controversial topic of quality there(and we got the less glitchy dx version)... there are people who think Sonic 06 was good,
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: nickmitch on April 02, 2013, 08:28:35 PM
Those people are wrong.
And the Sonic Adventure games were good. Especially the remakes.
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Post by: pokepal148 on April 02, 2013, 08:33:21 PM
im not saying they weren't good but im saying they weren't as good as the genesis games, but we would still have ten years before colors,
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Kairon on April 02, 2013, 09:35:11 PM
Honestly, I'm enthralled by what a lot of the smaller, non-Nintendo-affiliated dev houses do. I almost consider these guys a dream team of small "independents." These developers may not be in an official relationship with Nintendo, but I feel like their spiritual home should be on Nintendo platforms and, by golly, I'm sad whenever I hear of stuff they do not coming "home."
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 02, 2013, 10:35:49 PM
Yeah, so Capcom. Again...I still say Capcom. Zelda GameBoy games, Resident Evil on GameCube...
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Post by: Retro Deckades on April 02, 2013, 10:55:10 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what becomes of Nintendo's relationship with Platinum Games. The Wonderful 101 is looking, well, wonderful!
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: Kytim89 on April 02, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really looking forward to seeing what becomes of Nintendo's relationship with Platinum Games. The Wonderful 101 is looking, well, wonderful!
If Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2 are successful then I would not rule out sequels to those games later in the Wii U's reign. Also, I would not rule out Nintendo published sequels to Madworld and Vanquish. There is also a good possibility that Metal Gear Reveangance might get some kind of special edition on the Wii U later this year. Lastly, there is also a good chance that Nintendo will fund Platinum to develop more new IPs exclusively for the Wii U, and possibly the 3DS.
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: ThePerm on April 03, 2013, 12:15:15 AM
I like what Ubisoft's studios have done over the years. I more or less like them because they don't have the "**** Nintendo attitude"
Title: Re: Which is Your Favorite Nintendo Third Party Partner
Post by: pokepal148 on April 03, 2013, 01:36:26 PM
