the red army was caught by suprise with outdated weapons. Hate to break it to you but suicide bomber dogs only do so much
Ah, how i love (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34) being taught on history of my country by westerners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-2).
You're both kind of right. The Soviets were caught off guard and unprepared, but they bounced back from that and basically won the war for the allies.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 28, 2013, 10:52:11 PM
LOL, I think the Americans did more than the Soviets ever did (and the Soviet Unions didn't even join the war against Japan until AFTER we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan, at which point the war was essentially over. It would be like if a football player joined the game with only 2 minutes left)
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 28, 2013, 10:54:21 PM
Not in the Pacific, but the Soviets were way, way more important to the war in Europe than the Americans ever were.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 28, 2013, 10:56:14 PM
Yes, mainly in that the forced Germany to fight on two fronts. They did help out though, no denying that. But no way they would have won without the US.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 28, 2013, 11:01:17 PM
They'd have had more chance of winning Europe without us than we'd have had without them. There's a real chance the Soviets could have controlled most of Europe if they didn't have us pushing from the other side.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: azeke on January 28, 2013, 11:06:14 PM
(and the Soviet Unions didn't even join the war against Japan until AFTER we dropped the atomic bombs on Japan, at which point the war was essentially over. It would be like if a football player joined the game with only 2 minutes left)
SU was in war with Japan before it was mainstream (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol). In fact, Russia as SU successor, is still technically in state of war with Japan as peace treaty was never signed to this day.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 28, 2013, 11:11:56 PM
And yet the Soviets never took any action against Japan during World War II, leaving the Americans to fight them all by themselves. They were about to toward the end, but the US ended the war before they could start. It's been argued that the immediate threat of the Soviets getting into the war in the Pacific is one of the primary reasons the US decided to use nuclear weapons when they did.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 28, 2013, 11:12:57 PM
Not propaganda, truth. And the Soviets did squat in the Pacific during World War II. I am not saying the Soviets weren't a important factor, but I don't think they could have won without the US.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 28, 2013, 11:18:24 PM
You really shouldn't treat it as one big war. The European and Pacific theaters were largely separate conflicts, and only the United States played a significant role in both of them. The Soviets were instrumental in the allied victory in Europe, and we wouldn't have won there without them.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: azeke on January 28, 2013, 11:20:38 PM
I'm gonna leave you to your wrong brainwashed opinion and end this majorly off-topic discussion.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 28, 2013, 11:22:45 PM
Maybe so insano, the European theatre was won because of the US and USSR. I don't think either side could have won without the other.
azeke, I am not brainwashed. I love history and have studied it. Maybe I should mention how we won the cold war because the Soviets were broke and were gonna have a total collapse.
On topic, I really want a 3DS Advance Wars. Don't change the art style the series has always had though.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 28, 2013, 11:29:19 PM
I'm gonna leave you to your wrong brainwashed opinion and end this majorly off-topic discussion.
I think brainwashed is a strong word, and one that cuts both ways in this situation. The American thinks the Americans were the most important and the Russian thinks the Russians were the most important, when really it's a lot more complicated than that.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: azeke on January 28, 2013, 11:51:09 PM
Okay one last post, since my last one was hidden with new page.
I am not brainwashed. I love history and have studied it.
I can't tell, cause in every single post in this thread you've been wrong on the most basic things. Like you didn't even knew that SU fought and defeated Japan during WWII. US participation was like 1/10 of the entire War. The only reason for US to actually join in (beside lend-lease program was definitely a crucial help) was not to help winning the war, but to grab of Europe what they can and prevent Soviets to conquer it all.
Maybe I should mention how we won the cold war because the Soviets were broke and were gonna have a total collapse.
While true, what does that have to do with anything? What did you felt the need to say this? You do realize what you said is basically "U MAD?" after you've been shown that you don't actually know your history besides what you've been shown on HBO?
Anyways, i wish you a good night and a bit less blinding patriotic fervor.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 29, 2013, 12:00:27 AM
Um, I haven't been wrong on anything.
The Soviet Union did not fight Japan as part of World War II (the little battle between the Soviet Union and Japan was 1 week into World War II, and was before either country had entered the war). By the time the Soviets did actually start fighting Japan in the war, the war was essentially over anyways and they had NO impact in the Pacific.
And US only 1/10th of the war? What are you smoking? And the US entered to stop Nazi Germany from taking over (well, they entered to fight Japan, but I mean in the European front), they never had any intention of taking part of Europe. You are beyond delusion in your conspiracy theory the US in the war.
You sound like you are reading right from the Kremlin's Book of Propaganda. I thought you were just trying to be proud of your Russian heritage, but your last post is full of deluded, denial-filled, conspiracy driven dreck and false. If the US hadn't entered the war, the Nazis would have conquered Europe and then focused on and likely defeated the Soviets (especially once Japan got done conquering the rest of Asia and joined in on the was again the Soviets). The Soviets were essentially cannon fodder in the war.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2013, 12:45:10 AM
You're both tilting things in the favor of your own sides. Calling each other brainwashed or saying they're spouting propaganda is the pot calling the kettle black. World War II was a very complex thing, and throwing around statements like both of you have in this thread is a gross oversimplification of how things went.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on January 29, 2013, 12:49:42 AM
B-b-b-but people on video game forums are always right about history!
So how about that Advance Wars game, eh?
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: UncleBob on January 29, 2013, 02:08:45 AM
Good job guys. You made me actually have to do moderating work.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2013, 02:10:53 AM
There was really no reason this needed to be locked. In addition to it not breaking any rules, did you not consider that your fellow moderator was in the discussion and moderating it, and should have been given discretion as to what direction to take with it?
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: UncleBob on January 29, 2013, 02:14:44 AM
That's why I didn't delete it. It WAS breaking the rules, as it was discussing politics (although more historical politics) and had started flaming, both of which are against the rules.
Of course, you can always unlock it - but it really wasn't on-topic for Advance Wars. The Video Game.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2013, 02:21:29 AM
I do agree that moving it to the funhouse was probably in the best interest of everyone, but I disagree that it's political discussion.
I'd argue that politics, in the sense of the ban on these forums, refers to current politics, and the relatively recent past. Anything more than 20-30 years old should be considered history, which isn't against the rules, unless the moderators believe it's used for the intent of political argument. And since I'm the sheriff 'round these parts, and my word is law, that's our policy now.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on January 29, 2013, 03:21:20 AM
welcome to die, x-men
(http://i.imgur.com/6H2TY2L.jpg)
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: oohhboy on January 29, 2013, 08:26:25 AM
Holy Hell all this out of Snow, Rain and Fog?!?!
WW2 is an immensely complicated matter and there is no one metric that says this country is awesome sauce therefore the best. For every number or piece of technology you count as the end all answer to the question, one can all too easily counter with another attribute. This doesn't even take into account the possible twists and turns that history contains, neverminding the fog of time.
Short version: This is equivalent of "My Father can beat up your Father".
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2013, 12:48:31 PM
WW2 is an immensely complicated matter and there is no one metric that says this country is awesome sauce therefore the best. For every number or piece of technology you count as the end all answer to the question, one can all too easily counter with another attribute. This doesn't even take into account the possible twists and turns that history contains, neverminding the fog of time.
Short version: This is equivalent of "My Father can beat up your Father".
This is a broader and more eloquent way of saying what I did, and I applaud you for your beacon of sanity in the sea of ignorance that is this thread.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: Crimm on January 30, 2013, 12:52:52 PM
My mother can beat up your father!
Wait...
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: UncleBob on January 30, 2013, 01:19:27 PM
Your mother can beat me up.
And has.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: Crimm on January 30, 2013, 06:13:33 PM
I don't delve into her personal life and she mine.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: pokepal148 on January 31, 2013, 06:54:13 PM
should i be proud or horrified by how i nearly destroyed a topic with one post and wound up turning the funhouse into a quarintine bay without even trying
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: oohhboy on January 31, 2013, 07:41:54 PM
"****" is an appropriate feeeling to have. I have to ask, have you ever played an Advanced Wars game in your life?
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: pokepal148 on January 31, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
ive played the first one... my complaint came from there mostly, should have made that part clear
i like how crimm and unclebob are upstairs derailing the derailment
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: UncleBob on January 31, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
I'm upstairs derailing your mom.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: Stogi on January 31, 2013, 08:09:41 PM
*Applauds*
You gonna take that lying down, pal? ;)
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: oohhboy on January 31, 2013, 08:11:53 PM
When you mean the "First" one are you talking about Nintendo Wars?
I am downstairs Derailing your Dad. Oh wait that's not right..
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: UncleBob on January 31, 2013, 08:14:36 PM
pokepal's mom takes it lying down. Sitting up. Bending over. You name it.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: pokepal148 on January 31, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
he kinda has me in a corner here as an admin, he can accuse me of flaming and such and get me banned(which i can't making me the better man...) but come now unclebob, picking fights with relatively unknown members of the forum you dont know and talking crap about their mothers. is this what you want with your life. my mom went through surgery last week. how do you feel now...?
and i mean the first gba game
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: noname2200 on January 31, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
Awww, I missed my chance to get in on all the World War II talk. And to think, I have such passionate opinions that disagree with everyone!
Eh, at least I'm here in time to watch Uncle Bob derail someone's mom. Don't judge me
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: Stogi on January 31, 2013, 09:07:23 PM
he kinda has me in a corner here as an admin, he can accuse me of flaming and such and get me banned(which i can't making me the better man...) but come now unclebob, picking fights with relatively unknown members of the forum you dont know and talking crap about their mothers. is this what you want with your life. my mom went through surgery last week.
So...
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/160g68g6615.gif)
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: UncleBob on January 31, 2013, 11:09:48 PM
he kinda has me in a corner here as an admin, he can accuse me of flaming and such and get me banned(which i can't making me the better man...) but come now unclebob, picking fights with relatively unknown members of the forum you dont know and talking crap about their mothers. is this what you want with your life. my mom went through surgery last week. how do you feel now...?
and i mean the first gba game
lol... I won't ban you for punching back when I start throwing your-mom jokes out there. Promise. :D
With that said: A) "Your-mom" jokes aren't really about your mom. So it doesn't matter if she had surgery last week. B) I'm not talking crap about your mom. It's a compliment to say that your mom is hot enough to get me in bed. :D
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: oohhboy on January 31, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
Go back and play it again, because you have clearly forgotten it has weather effects.
Come on what are you going to do? He Yo Momma you! Are you going to stand for this?
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Advance Wars video games
Post by: Crimm on February 01, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
YOUR MOM HAS WEATHER EFFECTS
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 01, 2013, 03:25:20 AM
he kinda has me in a corner here as an admin, he can accuse me of flaming and such and get me banned(which i can't making me the better man...) but come now unclebob, picking fights with relatively unknown members of the forum you dont know and talking crap about their mothers. is this what you want with your life. my mom went through surgery last week. how do you feel now...?
and i mean the first gba game
Someone thinks the new worst poster slot is opening up and he's going for the gold!!!
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 01, 2013, 03:26:44 AM
hey insanolord, put in those new emoticons okay?? p.s. your mom
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: Oblivion on February 01, 2013, 10:42:37 AM
Hey, do you guys remember when I said that this site fucking sucks for new members that haven't been here for ten+ years? Thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
You can't use something that happened in the funhouse as proof of that. This place is inherently about inside jokes and not being serious at all, which makes it totally non-newbie friendly. To change that would be to destroy the essence of it.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: ShyGuy on February 01, 2013, 12:49:30 PM
Man, Soviet Communism produces a hell-hole of a country...
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: Oblivion on February 01, 2013, 01:40:20 PM
You can't use something that happened in the funhouse as proof of that. This place is inherently about inside jokes and not being serious at all, which makes it totally non-newbie friendly. To change that would be to destroy the essence of it.
That's bullshit. New members don't know the inner workings of the funhouse, especially when the name changes all the time. Hell, the day I first joined, I got a PM from ShyGuy to come join the funhouse. I didn't fully understand what it was until over a month later. Just because you've known what it is for ten years doesn't mean everyone will.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: pokepal148 on February 01, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
he kinda has me in a corner here as an admin, he can accuse me of flaming and such and get me banned(which i can't making me the better man...) but come now unclebob, picking fights with relatively unknown members of the forum you dont know and talking crap about their mothers. is this what you want with your life. my mom went through surgery last week. how do you feel now...?
and i mean the first gba game
lol... I won't ban you for punching back when I start throwing your-mom jokes out there. Promise. :D
With that said: A) "Your-mom" jokes aren't really about your mom. So it doesn't matter if she had surgery last week. B) I'm not talking crap about your mom. It's a compliment to say that your mom is hot enough to get me in bed. :D
in that case your mom can sure bring me to the fountain of dreams :-]
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: pokepal148 on February 01, 2013, 02:05:35 PM
whats with all these nulls oh because i keep editing to prevent another ww2 discussion
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: Stogi on February 01, 2013, 06:40:02 PM
Nulls appear if you edit, but they disappear with a refresh and no other user sees them.
As a general rule on these forums, if someone is making fun of you, it is in good conscience and should be replied back with another joke of good conscience. I find that pictures work just as well too.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: UncleBob on February 01, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
he kinda has me in a corner here as an admin, he can accuse me of flaming and such and get me banned(which i can't making me the better man...) but come now unclebob, picking fights with relatively unknown members of the forum you dont know and talking crap about their mothers. is this what you want with your life. my mom went through surgery last week. how do you feel now...?
and i mean the first gba game
lol... I won't ban you for punching back when I start throwing your-mom jokes out there. Promise. :D
With that said: A) "Your-mom" jokes aren't really about your mom. So it doesn't matter if she had surgery last week. B) I'm not talking crap about your mom. It's a compliment to say that your mom is hot enough to get me in bed. :D
In that case you ever wonder why you wake up and find the grips on your game controllers are all wet and wonder what happened I wish I DIDN'T know what your mother did there... something about trying to get in both ways i will let you interpret that
Banned.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: pokepal148 on February 01, 2013, 07:22:05 PM
was a little far, might as well concede defeat here and cut my losses
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: Stogi on February 01, 2013, 07:24:51 PM
You had a good joke there. I would have said...
You ever wonder when you wake up why your controllers are all wet? It's because you fell asleep with them stuck in your ass.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: pokepal148 on February 01, 2013, 07:37:52 PM
was a little far, might as well concede defeat here and cut my losses
Tee hee. My plan was to goad you into fighting back, then ban you all along. :D (not really about the banning part. If I was inclined to abuse my power, there are others I'd ban first. That, and I'd probably screw around with ShyGuy's posts.)
In that case you ever wonder why you wake up and find the grips on your game controllers are all wet and wonder what happened I wish I DIDN'T know what your mother did there... something about trying to get in both ways i will let you interpret that
I can only assume that what my mother did was beat the crap out of your mother (obviously why she needed surgery) and took them back since I was tired of your mother using them for her naughty bits.
You ever wonder when you wake up why your controllers are all wet? It's because you fell asleep with them stuck in your ass.
Well, if you'd stop licking my ass while I sleep, it wouldn't be so wet down there.
Title: Re: How not to talk about the Your Mom video games
Post by: pokepal148 on February 02, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
oblivion is just oblivious i guess granted this is the first time i did anything big here, i figured it out through observation and this thread put the last peice in place
