Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: MrPhishfood on January 08, 2013, 06:19:14 AM
Title: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: MrPhishfood on January 08, 2013, 06:19:14 AM
Not played one since Ruby/Sapphire. I'll be glad to get in to Pokemon again. I heard in the more recent games that each Pokemon had a more specialised roles to play in each battle making it more strategic than merely seeing who had the upper hand in types and move types.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on January 08, 2013, 07:10:29 AM
If the worldwide release is a side effect of regionlocking... hoo boy.
hook it to veins, shut up and take my money, etc.
Also, dibs on Fennekin.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: shingi_70 on January 08, 2013, 08:56:16 AM
Hype get. Been waiting for this and haven't played a pokemon game since diamond. Surprised no Wii u game was announced though.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: broodwars on January 08, 2013, 09:02:50 AM
Well, it's official: Nintendo has officially clawed through the bottom of that barrel now when it comes to Pokemon game names. It's like they've scientifically engineered the perfect "cheap cash-in" names.
I'm sure the game will sell ludicrous numbers of copies worldwide, but I just don't care about this series anymore. There are just too many Pokemon now to keep track of, and I feel like there are better franchises to spend my time on now.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 08, 2013, 09:11:54 AM
Well, it's official: Nintendo has officially clawed through the bottom of that barrel now when it comes to Pokemon game names. It's like they've scientifically engineered the perfect "cheap cash-in" names.
I'm sure the game will sell ludicrous numbers of copies worldwide, but I just don't care about this series anymore. There are just too many Pokemon now to keep track of, and I feel like there are better franchises to spend my time on now.
Not surprising at all, given your hatred of Dragon Quest and the fact that Pokémon is basically Nintendo's version of Dragon Quest.
Also, I moved this thread to Handheld Discussion, where it should have been in the first place.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Adrock on January 08, 2013, 09:49:43 AM
It would probably be easier for Nintendo to come up with better Pokemon titles if they didn't need at least 2 per main entry. They have at least tried to group them together by name (though I suppose Crystal and Platinum would make more sense if switched).
Anyway, I haven't played a Pokemon title since Blue, and I think my brother stopped at Diamond (though he skipped HeartGold). I like the graphics in X/Y. They're not awe-inspiring, but they're exactly what the 2D games would look like in 3D, more so than Gale of Darkness. I probably won't buy it though.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Do_What on January 08, 2013, 11:31:33 AM
I'll buy it. Love the way it looks.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: DigitalGreenTea on January 08, 2013, 11:45:45 AM
Wow, this looks so incredible! I can already imagine the upcoming online battles with those stunning battle animations...! Also, I'm glad they decided to create a new generation to the Pokémon series, so we will see even more new Pokémons and new places to explore! We will have about 700 different Pokémons! That's freaking amazing, imagine all the possible teams that you could make out of this giant selection.
I'm also really liking the starter Pokémons as well as the new Legendaries. I'll be getting Pokémon X which features this deer looking Pokémon. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ian Sane on January 08, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
Well, it's official: Nintendo has officially clawed through the bottom of that barrel now when it comes to Pokemon game names. It's like they've scientifically engineered the perfect "cheap cash-in" names.
I'm sure the game will sell ludicrous numbers of copies worldwide, but I just don't care about this series anymore. There are just too many Pokemon now to keep track of, and I feel like there are better franchises to spend my time on now.
Eh, I'm not going to damn a game because of the name. "Zelda X" would probably annoy me but this fits the Pokemon naming convention pretty well.
Pokemon Gold/Silver was the last of the main titles to really impress me as it seemed exactly like the sort of "bigger, better" sequel one should expect from Nintendo. Since then it seems like they've been very conservative with the series so I've lost interest. But moving to full 3D is what I've been asking for for over 10 years. That was the logical step for the series to go and Nintendo delayed it for a long time. Well now we may finally be where I think Pokemon should have gone after Gold/Silver (where it would have had to be a console game based on the technology at the time) and I can't ignore that. I think this could influence a 3DS purchase on my part.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: MrPhishfood on January 08, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
I'm going to hate levelling up that Dratini all the way up to a Dragonite. In case you don't remember dragon type Pokemon take the longest to level up.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: ShyGuy on January 08, 2013, 12:34:42 PM
I'm sure the 3DS could produce better graphics than this, but is the overworld truly giant like a sandbox GTA game? That would explain the toned down graphics style.
Or they started development on the DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Spenczar on January 08, 2013, 01:17:10 PM
I'm going to take a spectulative stab and say X/Y are going to be set in Europe or atleast a Europe inspired setting. The background for pikachu looks like France, Pikachu's thunderbolt looks to come out of Europe and something looks like the Effiel Tower in the background of one of the locations.
Also, Froakie till I DIE.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: ShyGuy on January 08, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
Every Pokemon game until was in a pseudo-Japan, right?
I think they could have enough variety to make the whole thing in France.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on January 08, 2013, 02:38:58 PM
- Yeah this game is certainly set in Europe this time around, which is cool.
- Still grid based, but not a big deal.
- Pokemon from every generation showcased so far. So at least a full on Gen 1 and 2 type lock out wont be happening. Doesn't mean a R/S remake wont happen. Though I liked R/S the least, if it's in 3D then ok I'll bite.
- back grounds during battles actually look like something. Doesn't seem like much right now, but it's a major step up to what we used to have. Pokemon Stadium 2 had some nice back grounds during battles, looked like you were actually battling in a real location rather than some random game world battle zone.
- The Pokemon make contact which is good, but for corn sakes if it's like battle revolution all the fun will be sucked out of the battles. So far the the attacks seem quick and pretty interesting, in battle revolution, watching Infernape run a Flair Blitz over to Empoleon was painful. The animation was laughably slow while Empoleon just sat there.
From the little that I can see the Pokemon will have the same single looping animation over and over and that's lame, but maybe not. We'll see.
All I'm really hoping for is some varied attack and idle animations. Can't wait to see wrap and bind, hahaha.
- Last thing, with all these old Pokemon appearing in the trailer, you can bet new evolutions and pre-evolutions are upon us! Start your wishing! My hopes are on Primeape, Pegasus Rapidash, and Heatmor.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: shingi_70 on January 08, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Every Pokemon game until was in a pseudo-Japan, right?
I think they could have enough variety to make the whole thing in France.
For the most part every region has been based on apart of Japan. Orre from the GameCube games is supposed to based around Nevada/Arizona and the black/white region is based on new York.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: alegoicoe on January 08, 2013, 05:25:43 PM
I give it a "Yeah" Miiverse style
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: MrPhishfood on January 08, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
I'm sure the 3DS could produce better graphics than this, but is the overworld truly giant like a sandbox GTA game? That would explain the toned down graphics style.
Or they started development on the DS.
Generally all 3DS games look bad in screenshots and videos but look better on the 3DS and even better in 3D mode.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: reef on January 08, 2013, 06:37:09 PM
I believe that this game is set in a Pokemon version of France... at least, I read that somewhere this morning. I'll try and find a legit source, but it could be just a coincidence or fan wank
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on January 08, 2013, 08:20:34 PM
I skipped B/W 2. Haven't finished a game since Emerald and that took me years to get around to (I think it was when I got Platinum and wanted to get all the old monsters).
Gold was my favorite but I couldn't even get the drive to finish the Heart Gold remake.
I am genuinely interested in X/Y but part of me wants to temper the excitement. It could just be a graphical upgrade and the gameplay is not changed up too much and if that is the case I probably won't finish these games either.
The starters are certainly more interesting than the B/W ones. Probably go with the fire one as those are traditionally my favored starters.
As for new forms of older pokemon, I always liked Scyther, Kaputops and Sandslash. New forms for them would be nice. In fact, I always wanted more from the 'fossil' monsters. Something like a 'proto form' similar to Eevee that could branch out into all of the different fossils. Or even get proto monsters for the starters. Get a proto grass, water and fire creature that could then evolve into all of the starters of that element through one trick or another.
Also, there seems to be some arbitrary limit to three progressive forms of pokemon. Charmander -> Charmaleon -> Charizard. Even with the 'poliwag' line you have to choose either Poliwrath or Politoed for their final form. Why can't we have a 4th or 5th proper stage for our monsters?
I also want triple-type creatures. I know it'll be complicated and confounding as hell, but at least make the legendary have three types. Those are typically tossed from competitive play so let us non-competitive folk have fun with tri-types in the regular game. Plus then the legendary can have something that sets them apart gameplay-wise.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on January 08, 2013, 08:56:04 PM
I'm going to hate levelling up that Dratini all the way up to a Dragonite. In case you don't remember dragon type Pokemon take the longest to level up.
One of the Pokemon shown in the trailer is a Black/White debuting Pokemon that's basically a free Rare Candy every time you take one out. It's a fair bit easier to get Dragonite.
(Or they could have you fish one up like happens in Black and White. Damn near **** a brick when *that* happened.)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on January 08, 2013, 09:10:38 PM
I remember raising a Dragonite in HG. That was especially painful since I didn't have a flyer. :^/
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: EasyCure on January 08, 2013, 10:53:48 PM
I finally saw the video from the talkback thread, and holy crap this was the pokemon follow up I wanted after playing the crap out of Red back in middle school!!
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Sarail on January 09, 2013, 12:01:45 AM
Excitement has built up inside of me today regarding this announcement. Starting my old Pokémon Pearl file again... I'm 32 hours in. Let's see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on January 09, 2013, 08:45:39 AM
I remember raising a Dragonite in HG. That was especially painful since I didn't have a flyer. :^/
I remember leveling one up in Blue. Loved that and it did take forever.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on January 09, 2013, 09:46:47 PM
Definitely a rewarding experience.
So, what else do you guys think will be different? New evolution methods? A new type?
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on January 09, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
I'm expecting some new type combos, but the only reason they added Dark and Steel was to balance out a broken type a decade and a half ago. For better or worse, they think the type balance is just fine. (It's not, Poison is a horrid offensive type, Ice makes you a literal glass cannon, and everything resists Grass.)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 09, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
Grass destroys water. I always pick the grass starter
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on January 09, 2013, 10:52:20 PM
Poison wasn't always bad. In first gen it was ok and you could work with it.
Hybrid types almost always mean they have the weakness of multiple types and the rarely the strengths of the types its made of. Which I know why they did it and it might now be better.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on January 09, 2013, 11:18:21 PM
What type combos haven't they already done?
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 09, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
Interestingly, Flying is the most common one as the only type it HASN'T been combined with is Fighting. Least is Normal, which has only been combined with 5 of the 11 other types.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on January 10, 2013, 10:18:27 AM
But some of those other type combos could be really interesting. Personally, I'm hoping for a Jynx evolution. It's long overdue.
Darn you. I was going to us Farfetch'd. Though I was sure at one point Farfetch'd was Flying\Fighting.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 10, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Shoot, I meant to write Normal/Fire. The rest are correct though.
I would love to see something like Fire/Grass. Don't say it can't happen, we've had Water/Electric and Flying/Ground.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Sarail on January 10, 2013, 01:10:04 PM
Staravia is also a Normal/Flying type. Guys.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on January 10, 2013, 02:31:53 PM
Can't wait for new type combinations! I'd love for Grass and poison to either get a little more defensive or offensive as well.
We may one day get a new type, but what would it be? Light or something heavenly like that?
What's important now is more moves and abilities that clear the battle field of hazards and/or permanent weather. Not just negate them for that specific Pokemon but get rid of them all together. I love that moves like spikes, stealth rock, and toxic spikes prevent abusive switching, but man some Pokemon are utterly destroyed when they enter sometimes. But it's permanent rain and sand that are arguably more over powered than anything.
I thought we were close with defog but it only clears the opponents side in 1vs1...
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on January 10, 2013, 08:07:58 PM
I was going to us Farfetch'd. Though I was sure at one point Farfetch'd was Flying\Fighting.
Only in the modded versions (of which I am the only consumer here given what's involved).
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Evan_B on January 17, 2013, 02:44:21 PM
I hope this game features a more impressive overworld than Black and White (and 2). The Unova overworld was absolutely atrocious. I'd like routes to have multiple paths that are accessible with new HMs or what-have-you, and more caves and little areas to explore. Sinnoh was full of that, Unova had none of it.
Oh, and neato! More Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on January 18, 2013, 12:30:38 PM
How about not making HM moves take up your four move slots? I don't like carrying around 'HM slave' monsters. It's a creative way to restrict progress but a lot of those moves are throw-away and I don't want HM moves bogging down my main team or a slave hogging up a spot in my roster. I dislike grinding anymore in RPGs and so prefer to just pick my team of six early and focus on leveling them.
I picked up Heart Gold again and I have two monsters that are there for HM use only. Or how about keeping certain barriers removed like smashed rocks and cut bushes? I got through them once, they should stay opened. It served its purpose, keeping me out for a certain amount of time.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on January 18, 2013, 08:27:44 PM
Sounds like someone needs to play Black/White. You need HMs to proceed in the game once, when you are guaranteed to have less than a full party and someone who can use the HM in question (Cut) - everything else is optional.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Mop it up on January 19, 2013, 02:41:48 PM
The HM problem could be solved by doing away with the paltry limit of four moves and allow Pokémon to know every move they can learn. It could instead be set up as sort of selecting four moves to "equip" for battle, retaining the game's strategy of move setup, but making it a lot easier to manage movesets and not waste slots on HMs or carry HM mules.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on January 20, 2013, 12:01:34 AM
Sounds like someone needs to play Black/White. You need HMs to proceed in the game once, when you are guaranteed to have less than a full party and someone who can use the HM in question (Cut) - everything else is optional.
I own Black, but lost steam part way through. I just picked up Heart Gold mid-game again and hope to finish that first. After that I'll revisit Black. I'm undecided as to whether I will just restart Black from the beginning or pick up mid-game like I did in HG. Gold was easier to start up mid-game because I have a nostalgic familiarity with it. Black not so much but I'm far enough that I don't know if I want to go through it all again.
Plus I kinda like what I was doing with the current team of new guys in Black...except for my starter. The B/W starters all felt meh so I went with the grass one. If I don't choose the fire one I tend to regret it farther in. Other than in Emerald I've always restarted my game part way through when I choose a non-fire starter or abandon the game. I just can't motivate myself without an engaging starter and none of the past few sets have been very engaging to me.
They should broaden your starter options from the three types. You got an electric in Yellow. Maybe give you a half-dozen type options or from any of the previous starters. More focus should be on the starters than on the legendary.
Everyone has a favored pokemon, why not make it that you can choose from ANY non-legendary pokemon as your starter and make it your special buddy similar to Pikachu in Yellow?
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Oblivion on January 20, 2013, 12:17:12 AM
Yellow was only made to appease those who wanted the games more like the anime, even though the games came first. Yellow is a special case and will never be repeated.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on January 20, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
Extra types for the starters might happen again in XY (though I hope it doesn't become a Platinum situation where it ends up as a Mexican standoff).
The reason they do Fire->Water-Grass triangle is because they want to have an obvious introduction to the game's Rock/Paper/Scissors/Enterprise/Death Star gameplay.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: lolmonade on January 21, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
The HM problem could be solved by doing away with the paltry limit of four moves and allow Pokémon to know every move they can learn. It could instead be set up as sort of selecting four moves to "equip" for battle, retaining the game's strategy of move setup, but making it a lot easier to manage movesets and not waste slots on HMs or carry HM mules.
If they would make it so each pokemon remembered all of their moves, but you only had 4 slots you could fill for battles (changeable while accessing the menu), I think it would do great things for the playability of the series, as well as not having to regret accidentally deleting a move you find out later was more useful than you realized.
Hell, I'd like to see pokemon's moves increase in effectiveness the more you use them. So if you have Pidgey use Quick Attack over and over, it'll be more effective than the tackle move you haven't been bothering to use.
I see Pokemon as a series that could have so much potential in being an incredibly deep and satisfying game, but they don't need to, because their fan base eats each entry up like hotcakes.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on January 21, 2013, 07:20:20 PM
That might break certain moves, having them get more powerful the more you use them. I mean, you'd have a move that lets you attack first and does massive damage. It'd be tough to balance without some hard caps.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on January 22, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
Just give it a simple 'skill level' gauge. Start at E and work your way up to A, each time the skill gets a small boost in accuracy and power or effectiveness. Bonus could easily very between moves based on how strong they are to begin with. Fire Blast is already a power of 120 so perhaps leveling up the move increases the chance of causing a burn to occur.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on January 22, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
You might as well just lift the system from Fire Emblems.
Move go from E to S and on different Pokemon they start a little higher to a max of C. Also just throw in the the social system so Pokemon who team battle together more develop affinities that help them in combat.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on February 14, 2013, 03:24:21 PM
WHY ISN'T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW EEVEE-LUTION? :confused; !!!
My guesses in order are that it will be: Poison, Dragon, or Flying type.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on February 15, 2013, 02:34:52 AM
I think its going to be flying. As I said in talk back I think the whole X and Y thing deals with dimensions as well as gender. So I'm guessing this is a female only evolution just by it's design. Of course many masculine and feminine Pokemon have both genders. But if this Eevee comes in a pair like in gen 2 and 4 it's counterpart could reasonably be a male of a different type.
Looked up Sylv and Sylph as root words and female sky fairies come up in the search as well as some kind of bird. I can only guess the ribbons are to express it's femininity and some type of kite like ribbon that flows in the wind.
In the latest Sylveon trailer the first attack looks like a charging of feathers before a burst, so im thinking its a flying type move. Still it does use normal and electric looking moves so who knows?
Another thing I noticed is that the wind was blowing during the battle. Its probably standard, but I couldn't help but notice the waves in the grass and leaves flying around. Of course this makes me wonder if wind is a new weather or maybe wind just happens to blow when you send out Sylveon.
Last thing, typing one my Wii U pad is light years easier than my ipad and iphone. The stylus just makes it so much quicker with less fat finger errors.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Mop it up on February 15, 2013, 04:58:37 PM
After hearing the name Flying does seem likely. But it's no fun to predict the "sure thing," so I'm still going with Poison.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on February 16, 2013, 12:22:25 AM
After hearing the name Flying does seem likely. But it's no fun to predict the "sure thing," so I'm still going with Poison.
Lol, look at it, that's like the opposite of poison... Like antidote miracle cure type.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on February 17, 2013, 02:37:55 PM
Flying Type theory "evidence": (http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/nickmitch889/h56F6F4A5_zps01885497.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on February 17, 2013, 04:19:01 PM
Yeah I saw that, I think it's pretty likely. Though I hope it's something new just to shake things up.
On another topic, Pokemons foundation is so solid the best improvements right now I believe are purely aesthetic. We finally have a main line 3D Pokemon title upon us, but really what does that mean? As far as the trailer goes nothing.
- Grid based like the 2D titles. No navigating terrain in a more natural way.
- Very stationary battles. I know I'm in the minority here but the 3D battles are actually lamer than the 2D ones the majority of the time. I liken it to bad voice acting or no voice acting at all. At least with the super simple "unanimated animations" the imagination can be used to fill in the large blanks. From the new Sylveon battle demo and the first trailer every Pokemon just sits there, many hardly ever even looking battle ready. When in the red I bet they still wont have a tired animation. When an attack misses I guarantee you the dodger will just sit there with the words "missed" flashing for a moment. It looks so unnatural the battles take away everything we always imagined they could be in 3D.
In this series gameplay is absolute king, because the presentation is still as lame as it ever was. If I wasn't so obsessed with catching, battling, breeding and just the awesome designs themselves I would have left the series a long time ago.
I am super hyped for this game, but I have to be the downer here and let everyone know this will be a larger scale Gale Of Darkness and Colosseum.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Oblivion on February 17, 2013, 05:01:54 PM
Lame? k
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on February 18, 2013, 12:40:04 AM
It is! At least I think so.
So I've been reading theories about Sylveon being a new type, like a "Fairy" type. It's already a classification for breeding purposes I could see it being the new dragon type.
Clefairy, Jigglypuff, Chansey, could potentially go new type completely or maybe dual type like Magnemite did so long ago in transition to gen 2.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on February 18, 2013, 10:23:47 AM
I will laugh if the new Evee form is a big troll and ends up a fighting type.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on February 18, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
I don't think Sylveon would, but that doesn't mean there won't *be* a Fighting Eeveeloution introduced. These things usually come in pairs, after all.
(If you want an elegant Fighter, I recommend Medicham or Mienshao.)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 09, 2013, 04:34:37 PM
but there is more then one way to arrange that for a type advantage. i think it's irrelevant...
Ok then, who would you pair Umbreon and Espeon with to rearrange it? Everyone else can be paired differently but those 2.
im saying that your arrangement theory is invalid because it can be done in different ways
the way its done now puts the gen-one evolutions on top and then our dynamic opposites and the gen 5 setup and our new pink puff rearranging jolteon against vaporeon alone ruins your theory by forcing leafeon to go on effective against either glaceon or be killed by flareon, they are just placed in numerical(by pokedex #) order left to right by their respective gen, jolteon just happens to be in the middle of his gen by pokedex number (135) hence his positioning on this poster... besides by this logic couldn't it be dragon electric isn't very effective against dragon although we get enough flying combos that people forget that
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 09, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
I think its going to be flying. As I said in talk back I think the whole X and Y thing deals with dimensions as well as gender. So I'm guessing this is a female only evolution just by it's design. Of course many masculine and feminine Pokemon have both genders. But if this Eevee comes in a pair like in gen 2 and 4 it's counterpart could reasonably be a male of a different type.
Looked up Sylv and Sylph as root words and female sky fairies come up in the search as well as some kind of bird. I can only guess the ribbons are to express it's femininity and some type of kite like ribbon that flows in the wind.
In the latest Sylveon trailer the first attack looks like a charging of feathers before a burst, so im thinking its a flying type move. Still it does use normal and electric looking moves so who knows?
Another thing I noticed is that the wind was blowing during the battle. Its probably standard, but I couldn't help but notice the waves in the grass and leaves flying around. Of course this makes me wonder if wind is a new weather or maybe wind just happens to blow when you send out Sylveon.
Last thing, typing one my Wii U pad is light years easier than my ipad and iphone. The stylus just makes it so much quicker with less fat finger errors.
that is a darn nice keyboard layout for key size on a tablet. but looks like flying is pretty likely although i was expecting a pegasus-fox from a eeveeloution from that type
but umbreon will still kill everything
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on March 09, 2013, 10:57:24 PM
Your statement is a bit jumbled so I'm not sure I understand entirely. You stated the chart could be redone with type advantages and I said do it, make one, and by that I mean exactly how it is now with super effective hits, not just water against ice or electric against grass.
Either way you do bring up an interesting point about their numerical order from left to right. But why in the circle from left to right as in different rows? Why not just the numbered order completely clock wise? The pairing and match ups are suspicious especially with what we know about the various root words that come from Sylveons name. I say it was intentionally done to give fans something to speculate about.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on March 09, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
You could swtich Flareon and Leafeon, resulting in no change. OR Jolteon and Leafeon, but that still points to flying.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 10, 2013, 01:56:21 AM
Flareon with leafeon and then jolteon with flareon thus giving flareon the 'hot seat' Ice takes grass Electric kills water I say that changes things
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 10, 2013, 03:03:00 AM
And its always been this way with Reeves presented art if I recall
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on March 10, 2013, 04:33:08 AM
But they didnt present the Pokemon any other way now did they? Each of the Eeveelutions are pretty clear about their typing with the naming schemes as well as looks. Sylveon at first glance and mention of the name isn't something one could pin point immediately as far as typing which is probably why they hid its type to begin with. Then we're given this little chart that presents them in a > < circle. Maybe it just so happened that they fall in line like that but it also just so happens that Sylveons name deals with flying fairies, cloud people, etc, it has kite like ribbons and bows on its body and it's opposite Jolteon.
I don't see how this is such a difficult theory to get behind. I'd absolutely love for it to be a new type, but so far things are leaning toward the flying side with ALL the hints given. If its normal or a new type that's completely neutral to electric ok, you win.
I personally hope its leaning more towards sylv and not Sylph. Sylv is more fairies of the forest and we might get some new fairy type. But I can't ignore the ribbons and chart.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 10, 2013, 10:02:09 AM
I just don't think the chart has any meaning I think its pure coincidence regardless
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on March 12, 2013, 03:01:47 PM
Haven't seen this much speculative fun in three pokemon generations! Keep it up ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 12, 2013, 06:08:27 PM
umbreon is still gonna kick that things butt seriously that thing is a tank
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on March 12, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
Just remember this:
I could say something like "There's going to be 3 new types, Charizard will get shot in the opening and will not be in the game, and Pokemon 714 will be a pile of Kleenex". If I sourced 2ch, or posted it in Japanese, the internet would be all over that.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on March 16, 2013, 10:22:15 PM
just for you people, just for you :D
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Hoojoe on April 04, 2013, 10:05:11 AM
You sir have probably hit the nail on head here. Crap graphics or not I'll probably still buy it. I haven't played a Pokemon game since diamond. I have the itch to play another now.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Dasmos on April 08, 2013, 11:07:58 AM
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on April 08, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
MewHat has his own thread in Talkback. I'm sure it will make it back here.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on April 14, 2013, 05:23:56 AM
Why don't I care about Pokémon? Seriously. Unlike with every other Nintendo series that I grew up with as a kid, I enjoyed Pokémon back then but honestly can't get excited for it at all now. I'm sure the fact that each new release in the series was similar to the previous ones has something to do with it, but even X/Y isn't really doing anything for me. It'll probably be the first Pokémon game that I've bought since Pokémon Stadium, and while I think it's cool that they're finally making some changes, I still can't seem to get excited for it.
Who knows? Maybe that attitude will change as we get closer to the games launching.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Chad Sexington on April 14, 2013, 06:11:47 AM
Why don't I care about Pokémon? Seriously. Unlike with every other Nintendo series that I grew up with as a kid, I enjoyed Pokémon back then but honestly can't get excited for it at all now. I'm sure the fact that each new release in the series was similar to the previous ones has something to do with it, but even X/Y isn't really doing anything for me. It'll probably be the first Pokémon game that I've bought since Pokémon Stadium, and while I think it's cool that they're finally making some changes, I still can't seem to get excited for it.
Why knows? Maybe that attitude will change as we get closer to the games launching.
This may be the first Pokemon game I pick up since the original Pokemon Red.
I've thinking about it. The changes from Red/Blue to Gold/Silver seemed so incremental. And then after that, I might have been in college or something. Then I lost track of how many Pokemon there actually were. Wrap that altogether and you get a snowballing effect of disinterest from me towards the franchise.
I'll have to read more before deciding whether or not to pick it up.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on April 14, 2013, 12:53:30 PM
Why don't I care about Pokémon? Seriously. Unlike with every other Nintendo series that I grew up with as a kid, I enjoyed Pokémon back then but honestly can't get excited for it at all now. I'm sure the fact that each new release in the series was similar to the previous ones has something to do with it, but even X/Y isn't really doing anything for me. It'll probably be the first Pokémon game that I've bought since Pokémon Stadium, and while I think it's cool that they're finally making some changes, I still can't seem to get excited for it.
Why knows? Maybe that attitude will change as we get closer to the games launching.
This may be the first Pokemon game I pick up since the original Pokemon Red.
I've thinking about it. The changes from Red/Blue to Gold/Silver seemed so incremental. And then after that, I might have been in college or something. Then I lost track of how many Pokemon there actually were. Wrap that altogether and you get a snowballing effect of disinterest from me towards the franchise.
I'll have to read more before deciding whether or not to pick it up.
play Heart Gold or Soul Silver.. G/S are the most direct direct sequels to red and blue but are no longer fully playable in their original form due to the internal battery burning out.
but if you would want to transfer your pokemon you will likely want black or white(or BW2)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 14, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
I posted in the talkback threat, but the new issue of CoroCoro seems to confirm that is a new form of Mewtwo and not an actual new Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 14, 2013, 05:11:05 PM
That's kind of disappointing. Mewtwo has been around since Gen I, giving it a new forme seems kind of ridiculous. Especially since it was born in a lab, and its creators should've maybe known about it? Maybe?
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on April 14, 2013, 05:51:35 PM
That's kind of disappointing. Mewtwo has been around since Gen I, giving it a new forme seems kind of ridiculous. Especially since it was born in a lab, and its creators should've maybe known about it? Maybe?
who says they didn't, those journal entrys on cinnabar island(while fascinating) are extremely vague... besides, this series has done worse tbh
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 14, 2013, 06:16:15 PM
Because it's just weird that in all the other Poke-mediums, it's never come up. Mewtwo has been featured in the Adventure manga a number of times, and it's never come up. It's just weird that it would now.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on April 14, 2013, 06:24:21 PM
its weird that slyveon hasn't come up given all the times eevee has come up in the past
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 14, 2013, 07:47:41 PM
Not really, since all of the Eeveelutions have involved new types of evolution. Gen I: Stones; Gen II: friendship and day/night cycle; Gen IV: Location based evolution.
I'd assume there'd be a new evolution method that effects Sylveon's evolution; although, there's unused styles for Eevee (trade (w/item), learned move, held item)
It's weird-er but still not overly strange for all of the Gen IV evolutions that popped up for Gen I Pokemon. Although, a lot of them were learned move (new for that gen, IIRC) or used new items to make the Pokemon evolve.
But I suppose they could just do this for Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 14, 2013, 10:19:36 PM
its weird that slyveon hasn't come up given all the times eevee has come up in the past
How so? There are many Eevees, and Eevee evolves in certain conditions. Storyline-wise, exposing a Eevee to new conditions could cause new evolution. However, there is only one Mewtwo in the world.
Apparently the poster for the new movie says that "Mewtwo has awakened and become its new shape".
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on April 14, 2013, 10:59:22 PM
I prefer them doing things with the old legendary pokemon over creating new ones. While I'd rather see full on new evolutions, a new form or two for classic legendary are better than getting 20 new legendary monsters. Having so many legendary guys makes them feel less... legendary.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 14, 2013, 11:01:15 PM
I'd just prefer it if they scaled back the number of legendaries added each gen. They seem to simply be there to pad life in to the games (and make me go to GameStop).
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on April 14, 2013, 11:28:19 PM
One word: SpotPass.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on April 15, 2013, 01:54:21 AM
Not really, since all of the Eeveelutions have involved new types of evolution. Gen I: Stones; Gen II: friendship and day/night cycle; Gen IV: Location based evolution.
I'd assume there'd be a new evolution method that effects Sylveon's evolution; although, there's unused styles for Eevee (trade (w/item), learned move, held item)
It's weird-er but still not overly strange for all of the Gen IV evolutions that popped up for Gen I Pokemon. Although, a lot of them were learned move (new for that gen, IIRC) or used new items to make the Pokemon evolve.
How so? There are many Eevees, and Eevee evolves in certain conditions. Storyline-wise, exposing a Eevee to new conditions could cause new evolution. However, there is only one Mewtwo in the world.
:confused; ...*slowly backs away from thread feeling confused and vulnerable*
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2013, 07:47:16 PM
The verb form of effect (with the 'e') means 'to bring about.' That's how I was using it. Affect wouldn't work there nearly as well. Hope that helps the confusion. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 22, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
So, the new rumor is of a new type (http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=544173).
Spoiler alert:
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on April 23, 2013, 10:57:08 AM
God I hope it's true! I believe! If this is a new type hopefully it shakes things up! Being a new type would make much more sense than flying. Plus it would retype a few older Pokemon as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on April 23, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
I think new types would bring a lot of freshness to the series. Hopefully they are adding more than one. Always wanted to see a crystal/diamond/glass type.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on April 23, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
I think new types would bring a lot of freshness to the series. Hopefully they are adding more than one. Always wanted to see a crystal/diamond/glass type.
They'd probably classify those under rock or something like Onix, Gigalyph and maybe a few more.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 23, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
I question how this new type would affect trading between generations. Retyping some older Pokemon would make this harder, right? I remember there being certain restrictions with trading between Gens I and II, but I don't remember if that involved Magnemite.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 23, 2013, 09:25:48 PM
The only restrictions were that they had to be Generation I Pokemon (i.e. you could not trade Lugia to Pokemon Red) and that they can not know any moves introduced in Generation II. If you tried trading something like Magnemite back to Generation I, it would just revert to the type it was there (i.e. it would go back to just Electric). The same thing could happen if they introduce any new types and retroactively apply them to existing Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on April 23, 2013, 10:38:32 PM
Ah! Well, there you go.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on May 11, 2013, 12:58:34 PM
New Pokemon!
Fighting Panda Grass Goat Normal Electric Lizard Normal Flying Bird
Change your skin color and hair!
Ride certain Pokemon through the game. Hopefully they replace bikes!
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on June 20, 2013, 01:39:55 PM
anyways we have confirmation of (https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40383.0;attach=3472;image) interestingly there already is a fairy egg group and just going down the list here... i expect that Skitty is a strong contender due to its design similarity with slyveon which could be interesting because of skitty and delcatty having the exclusive(in that they were the only ones cursed with it) 'normalize' ability.
Castform would also be an interesting choice as well.
Blissey would be the stuff of nightmares if it gets that typing in all honesty
pikachu is in that egg group as well... i wonder if they will mess with him
the sky battles basically mean i had better pick up an aerodactyl in hgss and teach it stealth rock
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on June 27, 2013, 01:51:49 PM
So glad the Fairy type exists! Jigglypuff's line, Ralts' line and Marril's line is confirmed to get a type change! I am extremely happy about this! It would be outrageous if Pikachu changed type but there is now way they would be able to retcon it in the anime. Or maybe they could, I don't know.
I just hope to Oda that Granbull is a fairy type! Intimidate plus dragon resistance is going to be awesome!
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 13, 2013, 01:56:07 AM
Gonna try to get this thread some love.
EDIT:
So, I've been playing the game and maybe it's me, but there seems to be a LOT of space between the first two badges. I feel like the majority of my play time so far has been in this section of the game. I keep getting worried that I'm "over-leveling" my Pokemon (i.e., wasting my time), but really I'm just focused on capturing all these damn Pokemon. I know the game "doesn't have a lot of additions" but I'm having as much fun rediscovering old faves as well as finding new ones. Anyway, I'm still not at the second badge, but I'm having a lot of fun with the game.
I picked Finnekin and Bulbasaur. Bulbasaur was my first Pokemon ever, so I wanted that MegaVenusaur. But I also wanted to keep my tradition of picking the grass starter, so I guess I'm saving it for another playthrough.
I also picked the Sail Fossil and intend on training it.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on October 13, 2013, 02:48:09 PM
so i'm planning to wait a few days before getting X and Y (because MN schools have an extended weekend this week so I can just pick it up then and play through it.)
the two Charizard mega evos are quite interesting.
the pokemon X one has boosted attack and an ability that also boosts the power of physical moves (I haven't looked at the type chart yet to see what it's new dragon/fire typing will do in that regard although charizard has lost its ground type immunity which could throw off longtime charizard users like myself)
the pokemon Y one has gone for boosting it's special attack instead and has wound gaining the coveted 'drought' ability making solarbeam and fire blast likely mainstays in it's moveset(with a move like air slash maybe for coverage.) however there are rumors which say that those types of abilities were nerfed so that that weather effect is no longer indefinite (instead lasting only 5 turns other like weather based moves, more then likely if charizard is still on the battlefield the ability will just reactivate if the countdown hits zero)
if charizards y mega evo can come anywhere near matching solar power charizard's deadly rampage then it has potential to become a massive threat and considering that the X evo was likely designed to match it in physical power, combined with the fact that charizard has a pretty nice mixed movepool, gives charizard a chance to truly shine in this generation
i'm hoping to get a good idea of version exclusives before I make my pick
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on October 13, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
It's not a rumor about the weather nerf.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on October 13, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
I picked Y and well Mega Evolution wise I chose poorly. HatTwo
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 13, 2013, 10:44:47 PM
I also picked Y. Haven't gotten to any megaevolutions yet.
QUESTIONS: Who did you pick as your starter and why?
Also, which Kanto starter did you pick and why? (Nostalgia?)
Did you train a fossil Pokemon? If so, which one?
Who's your current team?
EDIT: For reference, here's the new type chart (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Type_chart).
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on October 13, 2013, 11:18:40 PM
X won't be my main game, so I'm free to do some crazy stuff with it.
Starter: Fennekin Fanservice: Charmander Fossils: No Current team: Houndour, Combusken, Braixen, Fletchinder (shiny), Litleo and Charmeleon.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Wah on October 13, 2013, 11:27:13 PM
A lot of fires there! Just as well i'am a water trainer (with the excemption of Lucario!).
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on October 14, 2013, 02:22:10 AM
So glad I can catch Doduo early in the game! I love me some Dodrio!
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on October 14, 2013, 09:19:49 AM
I'll come back and list my current team later. I picked Fennekin as my Starter because my Son insisted on it. Even though I was leaning towards Chespin. Who I wish I would have went with because of the all the stupid fire Pokemon I seem to keep running into. I picked Bulbasaur as my Classic Starter and the only thing he has been is a constant source of "You have 4 Moves ... Blah, Blah, Blah" Honestly wish they naturally just upgrade a move sometimes. Oh and I somehow now have 2 pokemon with Psybeam that aren't psychic...
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on October 14, 2013, 06:00:24 PM
Do you get two starter pokemon? I'd love to be able to get one of the classic starters in the new games early on.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 14, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Yes, you get two starters, one of the Gen VI starters and one of the Gen I starters (VERY early on).
There's also the Torchic distribution going on (until Jan15th, IIRC), so you can have a total of 3 starters, if you choose (like Shaymin).
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Wah on October 14, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
And you get given a lapras and a Lucario early in the game... so much for rare pokemans.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 15, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
I haven't gotten a Lapras (yet?), but I do have the Lucario. It's a part of the story dealing with mega-evolution.
And I'm sure there are more rare Pokemon in the game. I actually like being able to catch Pokemon that used to be hard to find.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on October 15, 2013, 03:36:34 PM
So... I spent over 3 hours yesterday without progressing the story or moving my character. Though my Pancham is now Superiorly trained with all the metals. Unfortunately though in the process I could focus him trying to get all the medals so... He has a Super balanced grid instead of specializing.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on October 15, 2013, 04:11:12 PM
I really want to dive I to super training but I just can bring myself to do so since I know the Pokemon I am using through the main game are just going to be boxed for their babies who will have been bred to perfection.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on October 15, 2013, 04:31:04 PM
I really want to dive I to super training but I just can bring myself to do so since I know the Pokemon I am using through the main game are just going to be boxed for their babies who will have been bred to perfection.
Caterkiller has confirmed he is a Eugenicist. Meaning Caterbaby will be the first to start the war that the Star Trek set of prophesies has foretold.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 15, 2013, 06:52:38 PM
I've done some Super Training too. It actually helps break up the monotony of leveling grinding. Personally, I've been focusing on specializing certain areas for certain Pokemon. Some I want to be offensive powerhouses, others I just want to cover their shortcomings.
The game has some pacing issues, but it's not as bad a G/S was. It's really more a factor of not knowing what each gym is going to be like for me. Just got through one gym where I had no Pokemon strong against the gym's type, so I had to figure something else out.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Wah on October 15, 2013, 11:27:35 PM
still wish Pokealthon was there though... imagine what it could have been like!
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on October 16, 2013, 07:58:00 AM
So I learned that you can only get one of each type of mega stone per game, I may have to swing back to X in that case even if I prefer some of Y's version exclusives
It's really more a factor of not knowing what each gym is going to be like for me. Just got through one gym where I had no Pokemon strong against the gym's type, so I had to figure something else out.
...what. How is this a bad thing in the slightest? You're spoiled from playing pokemon over the years. Gyms should be a surprise and if you don't have a strong pokemon against them, figuring something out should be a GOOD thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 16, 2013, 10:47:05 AM
It's really more a factor of not knowing what each gym is going to be like for me. Just got through one gym where I had no Pokemon strong against the gym's type, so I had to figure something else out.
...what. How is this a bad thing in the slightest? You're spoiled from playing pokemon over the years. Gyms should be a surprise and if you don't have a strong pokemon against them, figuring something out should be a GOOD thing.
Lol, sorry. I meant that last idea to be a counter-point to the first one about the pacing issues. I was just trying to say that while sometimes opposing trainer levels seem to go up a bit fast, it's more-so that I don't know how much I need to grind in the first place. That last part, like Pokepal said, was actually more fun than the alternative.
So, in G/S/C, I felt that I had to either have the right Pokemon or grind really hard to battle Whitney. I don't know who has what until I get there in X/Y. I like that part. Sometimes I have to go back and grind because against wild Pokemon I feel are under-leveled, which is kinda "meh".
Another thing making up for the pacing issues is the sheer variety of available Pokemon. This prompts me to do a lot of capturing/searching, and now I get exp from that!
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 16, 2013, 10:49:55 AM
Oh, ok. Yeah, I have no idea. They've all been handed to me by an NPC.
Did you intend on having two of the same species mega-evolving?
no i intended to get Y and trade for someones charizard X stone... oh well i got X after all
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on October 16, 2013, 04:29:44 PM
So what do you guys think: digital or cart?
I don't generally like to buy digital on game systems but it worked out well with Animal Crossing because I like having the 'pick up and play' available all the time without hogging the card slot.
I'm leaning digital for this game unless I see a killer deal on a physical copy.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Wah on October 16, 2013, 08:51:18 PM
digital
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 17, 2013, 09:16:28 AM
I went with digital. I've lost at least two Pokemon carts since Diamond, so I'm trying to not let that happen again.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on October 17, 2013, 10:24:27 PM
Retail, with everything ELSE going digital. I want Pokemon to be the cart that's in my 3DS at all times.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on October 17, 2013, 10:55:24 PM
I was going to go digital but I got caught up in the hype of a midnight launch. Pokemon Z and up it's going to be digital all the way.
Negative. For one thing, my Mii is as default as it gets.
No freakin wonder. Are you not Skyshaymin on miiverse? I either made friends with, or followed a skyshaymin assuming it was you. I kept thinking you were like 12 because of his miiverse posts but here you seemed like a sensible adult. On miiverse I would try to ask this Shaymin questions or talk to him about NWR and he will not respond to me. I don't blame him, but it now makes sense.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on October 18, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
Yeah, my Miiverse name is Donald.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on October 18, 2013, 07:52:41 PM
I may or may not have met the move deleter and then sent out four lv 15 magikarp on the wonder trade after making them forget the move tackle :smug:
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on October 18, 2013, 09:43:29 PM
I got something useful out of Kotaku (a Slowpoke) - a level 1 Fletchling with its hidden ability and Pokerus :D
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 18, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
Nice. My friend randomly found one with the Pokerus. I haven't been so lucky :(
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on October 18, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Where do I go after I get the 6th badge in the snowy place?
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Wah on October 24, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
Red cafe in paris
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 24, 2013, 11:23:59 PM
Where do I go after I get the 6th badge in the snowy place?
To save the world.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on October 25, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
I am really liking this gen. The new pokemon are engaging and I think it is the best set of starters since gen 1.
Usually I gravitate to old gen 1/2 monsters but I have 3-4 new ones I am actively using on my team. I'm excited to get farther in the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on October 31, 2013, 12:05:05 AM
So, now that the game has been out for a while, what do you guys think of the Fairy Type? Interesting? Sucky? Do you feel like it fits? Are you used to it yet?
Personally, I've had to go back to the type chart more than a few times.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Sarail on October 31, 2013, 10:13:31 AM
I'm a big fan of it. Spritzee/Aromatisse has become my lead tier one team starter. She kicks arse.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Ceric on October 31, 2013, 11:26:13 AM
So, now that the game has been out for a while, what do you guys think of the Fairy Type? Interesting? Sucky? Do you feel like it fits? Are you used to it yet?
Personally, I've had to go back to the type chart more than a few times.
I always have to wonder why my Fairies don't ever seem as strong as the NPCs. That being said, I rolled through the Fairy Gym with a Raichu.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Caterkiller on October 31, 2013, 11:26:33 AM
I love the new type chart. Fairy is just as mystical as Dragon and I love that all the super cutesy Pokemon stand up so well to the big bad Dragons and Fighters. I'm just so glad Choice Band Outrage is going to mostly an after thought now.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on November 01, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
I actually haven't trained a Fairy Type yet. The choices (in general) were overwhelming.
The game certainly does feel more balanced with them in there. Especially for poison types, who were only strong against grass types who were mostly also poison types.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on November 02, 2013, 10:31:31 AM
It is more balanced. And while I see the pacing issues, it is not bothering me that much. The pacing may be stop and go, but the game flows. I'm enjoying going through the game and just beating trainers and catching pokemon. I just beat the fifth gym.
I think one of the reasons for my enjoyment is that I'm actually using the Exp All. I always refused to use it in the past because it created 'weak monsters'. But it is helping to keep my team close together in level so I'm not stuck with one or two 'super' monsters and a bunch of winps. Plus I have less patience and time for level grinding so this is an easy alternative.
And I didn't know that mega evolutions changed the monster's type. Mega Charizard is a fire/dragon. I discovered this when I fought the electric gym leader and threw him out as a final shot and discovered he was not weak to electric attacks. I need to retool my team because two thirds of my team are weak to electric unless I lean on mega Charizard. Plus I need to add an electric type. Most of my teams struggle without an electric type. I'm probably too fond of dual-type monsters.
I was using Pancham instead of Hawlucha and may switch back to avoid the electric weakness.
I may switch out Roserade for an electric monster but I am undecided which. I have not come across many electric guys in game. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on November 02, 2013, 11:41:46 AM
Heliopitle/Heliolisk is pretty fast, hits hard and learns SURF.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: nickmitch on November 02, 2013, 11:23:46 PM
The exp share is one of the best improvements in the game. It really helps keeping the pace without any drawbacks.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Stratos on November 03, 2013, 02:31:06 PM
Was it always this way and I just ignored it on principal? What changes were made to it? It feels like now you are playing one of those RPGs like Knights of the Old Republic where all your characters level up together even if you don't use them.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: Shaymin on November 03, 2013, 05:03:05 PM
Previously it was Exp Share, which allowed one Pokemon who held the item to leak experience. There was a Gen 1 Exp All item that took half the experience and split it among the rest of the team, making it useless.
Title: Re: Pokémon X/Y
Post by: pokepal148 on November 17, 2013, 09:26:03 PM
The exp share does however end up passing evs to your Pokemon as well which can be annoying
