Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Cyrian on December 22, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
Title: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Cyrian on December 22, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
Surprised this hasn't shown up here yet:
http://nintendoforcemagazine.com/
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on December 22, 2012, 01:21:58 PM
There is a "Defense" missing somewhere in the title.
Didn't some NP-inspired fan magazine released a month or so ago already?
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on December 22, 2012, 01:23:54 PM
Yeah - this will be the second, the first being the Kickstarter-funded Pure Nintendo.
This one actually has me super-excited though. :D
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on December 22, 2012, 01:26:38 PM
I wish them luck, but that's a terrible name. Then again most video game magazine names have been pretty bad.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: NWR_Neal on December 22, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
I hope you guys enjoy it. It should be pretty damn cool. :)
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Sarail on December 23, 2012, 10:40:13 AM
I'm very excited about this. Hmm... should I go digital or subscribe to print? Neal, would you happen to know if it's going to be put on Google's Play store?
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: ThePerm on December 23, 2012, 05:17:33 PM
Nintendo Forced themselves onto me, but i ended up liking it. It sounds like legitimate magazine.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: AV on December 23, 2012, 08:09:39 PM
too soon. i still haven't finished reading the last issue of Nintendo power.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Ceric on December 23, 2012, 10:48:33 PM
Let all the "Nintendo Force ASSEMBLE" jokes start pouring in.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: DigitalGreenTea on December 24, 2012, 04:21:00 AM
May the Nintendo Force be with U.
LOL. But I must say, this looks and sounds great. I'm surprised at the staff members, I recognized a few!
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on December 24, 2012, 04:35:38 AM
I'm seriously looking forward to this - some great names of long-time Nintendo supporters on board.
Sadly, there's already some folks poo-pooing this because the line-up isn't to /their/ standards. I wonder when we'll see their attempt at a Nintendo magazine?
Day 1 Instant-Buy!
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: alegoicoe on December 25, 2012, 11:38:13 PM
I know i ll be reading it, wish you guys luck
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: tendoboy1984 on December 27, 2012, 10:33:36 PM
I'm surprised someone from IGN is spearheading this. I thought most of the guys at IGN hated Nintendo (judging by all the flamebait articles on there).
I just noticed "Rawmeat Cowboy" (Kevin Cassidy) from GoNintendo is on there! SWEET! I wonder how he'll divide his time between being the sole editor on GoNintendo and this new magazine...
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on December 27, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Editor is a job when people do some work and research and actually edit stuff when they reprint.
RMC doesn't do any of that. He just copy-pastes and then takes all the credit for getting "scoops".
There is a reason you can't even mention name of his site on neogaf.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Sarail on December 27, 2012, 11:07:10 PM
Yeah. RMC's name being on that list is the only thing to make me raise a brow - I thought it was very peculiar that he was chosen in that mighty impressive slew of talent. Who knows...maybe he has a hidden talent we're not aware of that he can contribute to the magazine. I'm excited to see how this plays out. As I've already mentioned to Neal on the Twitters, I'll subscribe immediately once I'm given the chance.
EDIT: Maybe RMC will handle the monthly Pokémon segment with Mom Brain. :P
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on December 27, 2012, 11:15:01 PM
In my opinion RMC is even worse than IGN.
IGN at least does something besides click-whoring. From time to time.
RMC and many other unofficial sites with "*nintendo*" in their names are the hit-baiting 24/7, non-stop.
Regurgitating years' old interviews as new to keep the flow coming, publishing unfounded rumours without even giving it a thought of fact-checking them, not giving a credit from where the original news came from and many, many other things like that, just make shake my head and enter these sites in my url filter list so that i wouldn't visit them even by mistake.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: NWR_Neal on December 27, 2012, 11:44:54 PM
I share my no ill will towards my fellow Nintendo Force guys, though I can say the guys from GoNintendo and IGN that are a part of NF (Kevin/RMC and Lucas) are stand-up dudes.
I just hope you guys don't go to other sites and post this same stuff about NWR. :X
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on December 28, 2012, 12:00:20 AM
RMC doesn't do any of that. He just copy-pastes and then takes all the credit for getting "scoops".
To be fair, RMC never claims the stuff he reports as his own and always attributes his stuff to the original source. I've never known him to take credit for something without sourcing it - which is all that matters to me.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Sarail on December 28, 2012, 09:13:24 AM
RMC doesn't do any of that. He just copy-pastes and then takes all the credit for getting "scoops".
To be fair, RMC never claims the stuff he reports as his own and always attributes his stuff to the original source. I've never known him to take credit for something without sourcing it - which is all that matters to me.
This is very true. His site ALWAYS has direct links listed in the corner of each news story. I don't really have a problem with RMC, I guess I just don't recognise what he brings to the table - I suppose he's got organizational skills out the wahzoo.
Ah, I could see RMC handling the Community section of the mag, though. He IS very socially driven when it comes to gaming - at least, when concerning the community on his site.
Anyway, yup. I'm excited! (And no, Neal, I wouldn't dare speak ill-will towards you or NWR on opposing websites.) :P
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on December 28, 2012, 09:17:44 AM
Good - there are plenty enough folks who do that already. :D
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Nintendad on December 30, 2012, 10:32:29 PM
I'm just waiting to hear how to subscribe.
As for RMC, I love his writing. His reviews are often lengthy but I enjoy the read. I'm glad to see him on the staff. I think he goes above and beyond to credit the sites/people that create the article he posts. The only thing I don't like about his site is the podcast. His friends/girlfriend he does the shows with annoy me to no end so I quit listening to them.
But yeah, Nintendo Force, I'm very much looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Khushrenada on December 30, 2012, 11:26:34 PM
Just realized that Nintendo has been spelt wrong in the topic title. I know good for me. That's all.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: shingi_70 on December 30, 2012, 11:57:44 PM
Looking forward to it.
Don't have a problem with RMC but I understand why people don't like the site and it being banned from GAF. My only beef with the site is that the comments can be at the extreme end of Nintendo fanboism at times.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on December 31, 2012, 01:13:57 AM
The business model for Neogaf is not ‘community’ but to be an advertising vendor. The idea is to attract as many eyeballs as possible to see the advertisements that appear on each page. Normally, this is fine, good, and the standard of how most sites operate on the Internet. However, Neogaf does not generate its own content. It leverages users to do it for them and often steals news and content from other websites (i.e. instead of the eyeballs going to that website, they would just read the content on Neogaf). I’ve seen message posters there spend a huge amount of time and energy making great ‘original posts’ or spend a big amount of time of making posts and updates on a thread. My question to these ‘heavy’ Neogaf posters is: Why are you spending all that time making someone else money?
I know some folks around here aren't Malstrom's biggest fans, but it's an interesting article.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 31, 2012, 03:29:49 AM
To be fair, that's true of virtually any internet forum, including the one we're on here.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on December 31, 2012, 08:22:15 AM
True - but here, GoNintendo, IGN... The forums are just a part of the website. There's reviews, news, interviews, and all kinds of other -ews things.
NeoGAF is *only* forums. Nothing more. 100% of their model depends on people coming there and postings stuff for the site operators - for free - to keep them going.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Cyrian on December 31, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
The business model for Neogaf is not ‘community’ but to be an advertising vendor. The idea is to attract as many eyeballs as possible to see the advertisements that appear on each page. Normally, this is fine, good, and the standard of how most sites operate on the Internet. However, Neogaf does not generate its own content. It leverages users to do it for them and often steals news and content from other websites (i.e. instead of the eyeballs going to that website, they would just read the content on Neogaf). I’ve seen message posters there spend a huge amount of time and energy making great ‘original posts’ or spend a big amount of time of making posts and updates on a thread. My question to these ‘heavy’ Neogaf posters is: Why are you spending all that time making someone else money?
I know some folks around here aren't Malstrom's biggest fans, but it's an interesting article.
To answer Malstrom's question at the end, it's because NeoGAF, like any other forum, is community-based. People post threads and comments to start a discussion.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Shaymin on January 02, 2013, 11:03:20 PM
You're trying to get logic out of Malstrom. There's much better things you can do with your time, like organizing a bellybutton lint collection.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on January 02, 2013, 11:41:10 PM
Umm... Why not start your own community? Make your own money off the ads?
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: MegaByte on January 02, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
Inertia.
Also, NeoGAF used to be Gaming-Age's forums before it grew into its own thing.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on January 11, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
According to this news (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/32971) NF#1 is already out.
But i come to official site (http://nintendoforcemagazine.com/) and there is nothing on it.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Ceric on January 11, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
So Nintendo World Report: Powered Off is Sega CD and Nintendo Force Magazine is Sega 32x?
What does that make Pure Nintendo thing? Dreamcast?
Saturn
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on January 11, 2013, 01:53:19 PM
So here is me at http://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/497452 :
$18!.. Ouch. 80 pages though. Tempting. Oh, there is a coupon for this shop... I'll bite.
Hmmm... Shipping is $10 to my country. Ah, whatever...
Aaand done.
I'd feel better about it if all proceeds went directly to authors though.
Not sure if i should read it now as PDF or wait for journal to come in physical form...
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 11, 2013, 02:04:44 PM
ONLY 80 pages? That really is pathetic. I was pissed when EGM started being less than 100 pages, and $18 got me a years worth. $5 is not bad, too bad that is only for the digital version.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on January 11, 2013, 07:16:22 PM
That price buys me a DS game. Over the course of a year, that'd be 4 WiiU titles.
Sorry - I was super-excited about this, but I can't justify that much one a single issue of a magazine.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: NWR_Neal on January 11, 2013, 11:25:56 PM
Sorry for the higher price, guys. We're a small outfit with no advertisers/publishers, so we're using print on demand, which means that, at cost, this puppy in $17 to produce. If you think it's too pricey, that's your prerogative, but for what we can do with it, it can't be any cheaper.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on January 11, 2013, 11:54:10 PM
Neal - I can't speak for anyone else, but magazine ads don't bother me a single bit. I'd rather 20 pages of ads and a $5 magazine than a $20 magazine with no ads.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: ShyGuy on January 12, 2013, 01:09:27 AM
PlanetGameCube was the Master System Nintendo World Report is the Genesis Nintendo World Report: Powered Off is Sega CD Nintendo Force Magazine is Sega 32x Pure Nintendo Magazine is Saturn Pietriots is Game Gear PixlBit is Nomad
Nintendo Power was Dreamcast :(
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 12, 2013, 01:14:58 AM
So PGC has almost no fanbase other than the staff NWR is good and varied NWR: PO is crap that no one wants NFM is pointless and used by almost no one PNM is good for retro style content but overpriced and not adept to modern stuff Pietriots is a overprice, flawed version of PGC PixlBit is a portable version of NWR Nintendo Power is beloved by fans but failed to last again competition
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: ShyGuy on January 12, 2013, 01:17:58 AM
Well, it's not a PERFECT analogy...
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: leahsdad on January 12, 2013, 01:41:55 AM
Despite the cost (the official Nintendo Force website has a promo code, HPSD, to bring down the cost of the magazine. With shipping, it brought it down to $16 and change), I went ahead and purchased the issue, along with the free digital version. I plopped the digital version into my Ipad 4, and while my kids were falling asleep, I just perused the first issue, reading a few of the articles.
In one word: AMAZING.
As I opened up the pdf, the first thing that pops at me is how professional this was done, as in, completely professional. The articles which I read fully (the one Lucas wrote on Restore points, the FE Awakening review) were excellent. And make no mistake, this issue is LONG. Probably twice as long as any issue of Game Informer or Nintendo Power.
And about that. Nintendo Power. The fact that this magazine is called Nintendo Force, just how apt the use of a synonym of "power" is, didn't hit me until today. This magazine is not a love letter to Nintendo. It's a love letter to Nintendo Power, the magazine. I've subscribed to NP for the last 4 years, and I've got a pretty good visual memory, so I'm immediately struck by how inspired the format and layout of Nintendo Force is to that of recent Nintendo Power. I don't want to use the word "aped" because there are a lot of improvements and changes made to the basis of modern Nintendo Power's layout and visual vocabulary. Maybe not so much in, say, the downloadable reviews (which are pretty faithful to the NP style) but the reviews section is much improved--- NP had a horrible of habit of de-emphasizing art in favor of text, and mostly limiting art to standard screenshots. NF blows out the art, giving it a lot of emphasis and doing that magazine thing of letting art and text bleed and encroach into each other's conventional spaces, reminding you that, at least for now, the web can't do this.
Oh, and as someone who loves retro games like I love the honeyz, thanks for the retro section. Awesome.
It boggles my mind how much work obviously went into this. Make no mistake, this magazine looks better than any video game magazine out there (granted, there are only 5 of them left out there).
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Caliban on January 12, 2013, 10:55:48 PM
Neal - I can't speak for anyone else, but magazine ads don't bother me a single bit. I'd rather 20 pages of ads and a $5 magazine than a $20 magazine with no ads.
I think he meant that they couldn't get anyone to advertise on their magazine. Which is not surprising in this day, and age. Regardless of quality.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: UncleBob on January 13, 2013, 12:29:59 AM
While I'm sure that's a possibility, it seems odd that Pure Nintendo was able to secure advertisers for their magazine (I guess enough to get it down to $20/6 issues).
This is really something HP needs to work on with their MagCloud service. Since the issues are print-on-demand, it seems this would be very lucrative to advertisers. Instead of selling StudioX the back cover for MovieX, they could sell StudioX the back cover for whatever ad StudioX wants to put on the back cover for the life of the magazine (print and digital).
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: coffeewithgames on January 14, 2013, 01:22:27 AM
Probably twice as long as any issue of Game Informer or Nintendo Power.
You must not subscribe to GameInformer. Latest issue is 100 pages, with about 10 ads. That's 90 pages of content.
I bought the digital copy of NF, but at $5 a copy, it won't happen again. There was only one piece I was interested in, and it didn't change the fact I was already buying the game. Neal, while the PHYSICAL copy price isn't really in your control, why not make the digital copy A LOT less? I can get a year's subscription to most magazines for $20, for physical copies. Many offer digital versions now though, at lower costs.
Also, what charity is getting the money?
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: NWR_Neal on January 14, 2013, 01:59:50 AM
It wasn't that we couldn't get advertisers, it's that they weren't pursued.
I'm not as involved in the business operations of NF, more contributing to it because hey, I loved Nintendo Power and it seems fun.
I believe Child's Play is the recipient. More details should be out on that soon, I think. Keep in mind that the overpriced digital version involves all of the money going to charity, as there is minimal production cost for a PDF compared to a print mag.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Padawan of Windu on January 15, 2013, 12:55:54 PM
I bought it the first chance I could! While I'm waiting for the physical edition to read it all (like I would with Nintendo Power - avoiding web coverage of it's news until I actually had the magazine in hand), I peeked a bit at the digital version and the quality is phenomenal! I absolutely love it, and was totally psyched that my art made it into the envelope art section (two, even!) =D
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on January 30, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
Anyone else got physical version? I just got mine (don't laugh, yeah it takes THAT long to ship to my country).
Reason i'm asking is because, because my copy is damaged:
It's like someone tried to rip the lower part of the magazine with his hands. I wonder if that's production issue or it was damaged in delivery. Anyone else has that?
Also i don't feel like binding is robust enough. I'm afraid to unfold it fully, it feels like if i do it all the way it will just break apart.
Anyway, as to actual content, i've just started but it looks great. I'm glad i didn't read it in digital form back when i bought. It's nicer to read it on paper, defects or not.
Also, sorry Ronnie but Dark Olimar was already done (http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2012/10/26/443-dark-versions/), by one of the NF guys even.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: MegaByte on January 30, 2013, 11:07:13 PM
That sucks. I'd contact MagCloud and see if they'll send you a replacement. I've seen a few other people who received torn covers, but nothing as bad as that. Thankfully, we'll be going with a dedicated publisher soon.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on January 30, 2013, 11:30:21 PM
Nah, i'm good. I just wish binding was better.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on February 09, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
So, the subscription is up (https://checkout.subscriptiongenius.com/nintendoforcemagazine.com/).
Does that include issue 1? And will it work depending on when i will sibscribe?
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on November 14, 2013, 02:42:40 AM
After not getting several issues (post service here is crap), i randomly found september/october issue in my box yesterday.
Wow, it got so much better since issue 1! Tons of great artwork.
Too bad it's mostly about Pokemon and i know nothing about it to appreciate articles.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Kairon on February 16, 2014, 06:26:22 AM
So.... necrothread bump but...
Is anyone interested in a free year 2 physical+digital combo subscription of NF Magazine?
I've already backed the Kickstarter, but I'm looking for three more people who want physical subscriptions of this so I have an excuse to pledge to higher tiers. I need some volunteers to take the extra physical+digital subscriptions from those higher tiers take off my hands!
Is anyone interested in a free year 2 physical+digital combo subscription of NF Magazine?
I've already backed the Kickstarter, but I'm looking for three more people who want physical subscriptions of this so I have an excuse to pledge to higher tiers. I need some volunteers to take the extra physical+digital subscriptions from those higher tiers take off my hands!
Seriously? If being in Canada isn't a limiting factor, I'd love to get physical copies to share with my nephews. That said - being in Canada usually *is* a limiting factor. :)
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on February 16, 2014, 09:21:39 AM
Other than Car and Driver, I don't have any Mags coming to the house. Count me in.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: azeke on February 16, 2014, 09:29:07 AM
I'd pitched but i already pledged for physical version.
NF is pretty cool, i found myself rereading issues i have last week and finding articles i missed completely when i got it.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Kairon on February 16, 2014, 10:07:49 AM
Woah, ok, I guess I got my three!
Ejamer, I'll check what it takes to get it sent to Canada and get back to you!
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: ejamer on February 16, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
Ejamer, I'll check what it takes to get it sent to Canada and get back to you!
If it doesn't fly, that's not a problem. Trust me: I would fully understand!
Regardless, this is a cool option and the pricing for a year subscription is much more appealing (especially if you live in the US) than the first year was. Anyone curious should hit up the Kickstarter link and see if this is something that fits your budget!
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Phil on February 16, 2014, 06:21:56 PM
Hopefully it will ship to Canada, but if not, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Kairon on March 06, 2014, 06:42:58 PM
Forgot to update you ejamer, but the Canadian shipping won't be a problem. Sorry Phil, I don't think they have a 5 subscription tier unfortunately.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: ejamer on March 07, 2014, 07:35:46 AM
Cool - thanks Kairon!
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: leahsdad on March 10, 2014, 08:26:01 PM
I went for one of the $50 tiers, cuz I'm old fashioned like that and I covet the physical magazine. And the free game.
I think this is a very...convenient way of doing things for me. But I'm wondering...would Kickstarter frown on this whole thing, since it's not really a crowdfunding exercise as much as it is....a subscription drive.
Again, I am a happy "backer." Not knocking it. But I'm really more of a "subscriber" am I not?
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Kairon on March 17, 2014, 01:09:54 PM
Soren, ejamer, Nile Boogie Returns, can y'all private message me the addresses where you want to receive the physical magazine at? Also e-mail addresses if you want to get your digital issues in PDF form, or let me know if you prefer the alternative of through the apple iPad newsstand app.
Title: Re: Ninendo Force Magazine
Post by: Stratos on March 17, 2014, 09:11:08 PM
If somebody doesn't get back to you, I'd love to get a copy. ;)
I might get a subscription for my sister since she loved getting Nintendo Power back in the day. There is something nice about a physical magazine.
