Bricking systems would be idiotic give the rate of false positives inherent in any such detection system.
Developers could use piracy as an excuse to abandon the platform, but it'd be nothing more than a scapegoat. Piracy is rampant on all systems and always will be. It's better to appeal to actual customers than waste time and money worrying about potential sales.
:P:
That was the joke. No surprise that someone took it too seriously though.
Funny that I got hit with a negative for being disappointed to see hacking happen so quickly. Guess someone on the boards here was really looking forward to flash cards on 3DS. I stand by my opinion though: the vast majority of people who benefit from systems being hacked are shameless pirates too cheap and/or lazy to pay for their entertainment. Not all... but the overwhelming majority.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 16, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
I can see I'm not wanted here.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Morari on September 16, 2011, 11:07:02 PM
That was the joke. No surprise that someone took it too seriously though.
Funny that I got hit with a negative for being disappointed to see hacking happen so quickly. Guess someone on the boards here was really looking forward to flash cards on 3DS. I stand by my opinion though: the vast majority of people who benefit from systems being hacked are shameless pirates too cheap and/or lazy to pay for their entertainment. Not all... but the overwhelming majority.
I assumed you were joking, but figured to air on the side of caution and take it at face value. If it makes you feel better though, I didn't smite you for it.
Whether or not pirates benefit from a system being hacked, the actual platforms don't suffer much. Money will still be made, because most of pirates would have never been customers anyway.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 16, 2011, 11:10:30 PM
What sucks about being smited is you never really know who did it or why they did it. It would be nice to at least know the reason. Oh well, I guess the cowards can hide in their anonymity.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: UncleBob on September 16, 2011, 11:14:38 PM
I only smite when people complain about being smited. I mean, really - way to completely derail the thread.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: ejamer on September 16, 2011, 11:35:42 PM
Oddly, the smiting thing doesn't much matter to me. You want to leave a negative, or a dozen negatives, go ahead.
It's just funny (as in "haha" funny) that out of all the dumb things I say, calling out hackers as people who enable piracy and are generally a disservice to people who simply enjoy gaming is what gets any reaction. Even if what Morari says is true about pirates not being people who would spend any money otherwise - and it probably is true in many cases - hacking still ends up causing more grief than gain for the average consumer.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: broodwars on September 16, 2011, 11:43:36 PM
What sucks about being smited is you never really know who did it or why they did it. It would be nice to at least know the reason. Oh well, I guess the cowards can hide in their anonymity.
Welcome to my experience with this site's karma system. Some people just really like being pricks and hide behind the karma system rather than facing a statement (or person) they don't like with some modicum of courage or pride. It used to bother me, but the constant smiting for every little thing I do or don't do has become so commonplace that I just don't care anymore. I suggest you do the same.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 16, 2011, 11:58:47 PM
Yeah, I agree with you Broodwars generally it doesn't bother me, but this time I can't help but think I was being smited because I made a joke and someone thought I was serious, but it also could have been something I said in another thread and I simply don't know. So I asked why and then I got smited like 6 more times.
I wasn't really complaining about it. I was just asking why...
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 17, 2011, 12:41:06 AM
UB, you should move all of this derailment to the smite thread. I just recently bumped it, so it shoudl be easy to find.
But since we are already derailed. One reason why the smites stay anonymous is that even if the smiter revealed who and why, the person that was smited would likely get in a jealous fit and do retaliation smites just because.
Now if there was a way to atleast know what post where being smited and there was an option for the anonymous smiter to leave a comment as to why they smited, then that may be good, but I doubt the smiter would take the time to explain it anyway.
Now slightly back on topic Hackers aren't all bad so you probably got smited by someone that doesn't like you lumping all hackers into one malicious group. That would be like calling everyone in prison a violent criminal, or everyone that smokes herbals a wasteful drain on society.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: UncleBob on September 17, 2011, 12:45:27 AM
B&M - I would, but some of the smite-sobbing is tied directly to posts discussing the topic at hand and I want to try and preserve as much of the flow of conversation as I can. I considered proposing a "Smite Thread" - and making it a rule that if you want to complain about getting smited, you *must* do it in that one thread and that one thread only... but I digress.
On topic - curious how this'll play out. I have a gut feeling it won't last very long.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 17, 2011, 12:51:25 AM
I only smite when people complain about being smited. I mean, really - way to completely derail the thread.
Yeah, that's why I smote you.
EDIT: You meaning Chozo Ghost. Not looking to start a flame war with UncleBob, at least not in Talkback.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 17, 2011, 01:16:43 AM
What good is it to smite me when I am hundreds of points in the negative and will probably never be in the positive again? Isn't that like beating a dead horse?
Now, if you were to reset me karma back to 0 and then smite then it will mean something... Or better yet just scrap the whole thing entirely and then you will never hear anyone complain about it ever again.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Morari on September 17, 2011, 01:50:36 AM
There are only two people on here that I find myself consistently smiting. Last time I checked, Chozo is not one of them. ;)
Really though, the system is imperfect. There should be no smites, and applauds should be tied to individual posts, not some overall rating. That way, good posts can be picked out. Bad posts don't need smites, they just need ignored or reported (if they're that bad).
Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2011, 01:53:47 AM
There are only two people on here that I find myself consistently smiting. Last time I checked, Chozo is not one of them. ;)
Really though, the system is imperfect. There should be no smites, and applauds should be tied to individual posts, not some overall rating. That way, good posts can be picked out. Bad posts don't need smites, they just need ignored or reported (if they're that bad).
Just my thoughts.
You say that there should be no smites, yet you openly admit to "consistently smiting" two folks in this thread. Hypocrite. Sadly, that's not the least bit surprising.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 17, 2011, 02:17:25 AM
There are only two people on here that I find myself consistently smiting. Last time I checked, Chozo is not one of them. ;)
Really though, the system is imperfect. There should be no smites, and applauds should be tied to individual posts, not some overall rating. That way, good posts can be picked out. Bad posts don't need smites, they just need ignored or reported (if they're that bad).
Just my thoughts.
I agree. That's how it is on youtube where comments can be rated up so they are more easily seen, or rated down where they become hidden by default. Something like that would be great here if it could be done. Smiting or applauding individual posts is a great idea, but allowing people to be overall smited is something that is just liable to turn ugly and personal, and there's nothing good that could ever come of it.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Oblivion on September 17, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
Well, if people didn't get all upset over the karma system maybe this wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 18, 2011, 12:20:09 AM
Since people like to smite people for complaining about smiting so much I decided to complain about smiting in my signature, so now every post I ever make will be a complaint about smiting. So what are you jerks going to do now? Smite me a hundred or a thousand times and see if I care. Hopefully eventually you all will either grow up or at the very least get bored of it and leave me alone.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 18, 2011, 12:34:57 AM
The person getting upset about completely meaningless numbers on an internet message board is telling us to grow up.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: UncleBob on September 18, 2011, 12:42:13 AM
Since people like to smite people for complaining about smiting so much I decided to complain about smiting in my signature, so now every post I ever make will be a complaint about smiting. So what are you jerks going to do now? Smite me a hundred or a thousand times and see if I care. Hopefully eventually you all will either grow up or at the very least get bored of it and leave me alone.
What about those of us who have signatures turned off? :(
Seriously, I don't care too much if you complain about being smited - it's when you derail entire threads complaining about some grand conspiracy against you because someone gave you a -1 that may or may not even be related to that thread.
Move on with your life. #FirstWorldProblems in here...
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 18, 2011, 01:00:14 AM
The person getting upset about completely meaningless numbers on an internet message board is telling us to grow up.
Obviously it matters to you, because if it didn't
1) You would get rid of the thing entirely, which I am all in favor of.
2) You wouldn't constantly applaud one another in your clique or smite those outside of your clique. Its funny how the ones who don't have a problem with it are the same ones who are all in the positive. The fact of the matter is we all have egos and want acceptance, if you have it then fine, but if you are in the negative and keep getting smited its like everyone is spiting on you.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: broodwars on September 18, 2011, 01:04:02 AM
Chozo, seriously...I probably get consistently smited more than anyone here, usually for rather dubious reasons (from pathetic people) that support what you say. But you need to let this go, as you're getting way more worked up than this system deserves. As stupid as this system is, no one in charge of the system cares enough to get rid of it, and the newbies are the only ones who take your karma ranking seriously.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 18, 2011, 01:08:41 AM
Usually it doesn't bother me. When was the last time I complained? Its been months... I just let it slide, but it builds up and eventually it comes to a head. I wasn't even complaining at first. All I did was asked why but then I got smited about a dozen times for that and then it spiraled into this. Those who are saying it doesn't matter aren't the ones getting spit on so its easy for them to say that.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 18, 2011, 01:12:30 AM
I do not have the power to change this, as I am not an admin. If you want it changed so bad, you'll need to send thousands of angry PMs to Crimm.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 18, 2011, 01:21:23 AM
I deleted my signature and I apologize for derailing the threads that I did, and I admit my behavior was a little childish. But with that said, I still think the whole karma system thing does more harm than good. I won't guarantee I won't complain about this in the future, but for now at least I'm done.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: that Baby guy on September 19, 2011, 03:41:40 AM
I remember back when points meant something. You can ban people, change the word filter, and things like that at the cost of just a few points. It was great, but it didn't last long after I banned some junior forum member.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2011, 06:26:03 PM
I don't see what there is to sob about really.
I got 3 smites since yesterday, 3 SMITES!!! and honestly I don't really care.
on the other hand I also got 27 applauds, so I guess it all balances out in the end right?
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: UncleBob on September 19, 2011, 08:43:26 PM
You mean you actually pay that close of attention to what your points are? I haven't even the foggiest idea where I'm at. I'll have to look when I submit this post...
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2011, 09:04:06 PM
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 20, 2011, 07:02:06 AM
To the last, I smite with thee; From Hell's heart, I smite at thee; For hate's sake, I smite my last breath at thee!
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: ejamer on September 20, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
Don't take the smite values so seriously. The whole thing is a metagame that only affects those who care about peer approval more than voicing opinions.
And back on topic, BnM2k1 is probably right about why I got a smiting. But I stand by my statement. If you honestly believe that the majority of people who install homebrew on their Wii consoles are using it for legal, or even quasi-legal, reasons then you are sorely deluded. That obviously doesn't mean everyone is bad... but there is something wrong when I have to argue with my wife about buying a $5 or $10 game because I'm the only person she knows with a Wii who actually pays for software.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 28, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
I don't know if the system NWR uses allow it, but some messageboards that have a similar system informs a person white you applaud or smite them along with an optional message (it also only lets you take action with a specific post once). I agree with the option of getting rid of the smiting and only allowing applauding. Maybe have it so that the more applauds you have, the more influence you have.
And I am 99.9% sure I am one of those two people Morari constantly smites (whether I did something to deserve it or not).
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 28, 2011, 10:53:10 PM
No, giving it any kind of meaning is only going to increase the bitching.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: lolmonade on September 29, 2011, 09:20:30 AM
Got a good laugh out of this thread.
"boo hoo my e-peen is shrinking because everyone is smiting meeeeeeeeee!"
Want to stop getting smites? Quit being a complete ideologue about something that is supposed to be fun to discuss (Video Games)
That being said, I haven't been granted any smiting/applauding powers, which makes me a sad panda.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Sundoulos on September 29, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
I believe that there's a 1,000 post threshold before you can get them.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
The fact TJ Spyke's negative score is so high doesn't surprise me at all, but what does surprise me is that his positive score is so high. He has a higher positive score than BnM for crying out loud. How the heck can that be right? He must have a dupe account he's using to boost himself.
I was having what I thought was a civil discussion with him and then for no reason he smited me and left. I guess he had no more arguments left so he resorted to childishness.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 03, 2011, 02:43:56 PM
I didn't smite you, and I am browsing several sites right now (so excuse me for not responding right away).
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2011, 02:48:11 PM
If that's the truth then go ahead and smite me because I deserve it for accusing you falsely.
Edit: That's right, you can't because you have to wait an hour. That proves you did it.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Oblivion on October 03, 2011, 03:07:35 PM
HOLY **** SHUT UP
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2011, 03:16:33 PM
Chozo I smitted you a little while ago because you kept on talking about your score. Its a number on a forum. It isn't that big of a deal. Unless you have some low self esteem it isn't that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2011, 03:16:48 PM
No. Because the more fuss that gets made about the karma thing the more likely it becomes that it will get removed or fixed. Plus its not like someone held a gun to your head and forced you to enter this thread.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 03, 2011, 03:19:44 PM
No. Because the more fuss that gets made about the karma thing the more likely it becomes that it will get removed or fixed. Plus its not like someone held a gun to your head and forced you to enter this thread.
Chozo you can PM the mods and admins about this instead of bringing it out into the open and making a big deal about it. Maybe you have some ideas how to fix it. I haven't really seen you or many other people suggest how to fix it. Just senseless complaining...
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 03, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
No. Because the more fuss that gets made about the karma thing the more likely it becomes that it will get removed or fixed. Plus its not like someone held a gun to your head and forced you to enter this thread.
This is not at all true. The more you bitch about it, the more against removing it I become. Nintendo World Report does not negotiate with terrorists.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 03, 2011, 09:56:34 PM
If I am a terrorist can I have my title thing changed to something cool to reflect that? I am tired of being on shyguy's list by executive decision. I don't even know what that even is.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 04, 2011, 10:00:03 AM
This new title will do. Saves me from having to put it in my signature. I remember the golden age of this site way back before the karma thing existed. It is my hope one day we will return to that golden era.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: UncleBob on October 08, 2011, 01:35:29 PM
Hm. Wonder what the criteria is for an individual to get their smites removed.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 08, 2011, 02:08:45 PM
I didn't ask for my smites to be removed, so I don't know who did it or why. I just want the whole thing to be scraped for everyone, not just for myself. The only thing the smiting system serves is a tool for cyber bullying, and I personally don't think cyber bullying is ever a good thing.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2011, 02:45:47 PM
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 13, 2011, 03:46:33 PM
I know no one really cares about points, but I've been handing out applauses left and right for all MFT participants.
SUPER has gone from +50 to +63 and even Morari has gone from +41 to +50
the longer you're involved the more applauses you receive since I just go down the list of who has MFT'd a movie everytime I remember/enter the thread.
Still looking for participants if anybody wants to counter act that smite score. ;)
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 15, 2011, 03:31:14 AM
You guys are slacking. On the first few days of my negative score being reset I got a flood of smites, but its slacked off since then. At this rate its going to take a long time for me to get those 300+ smites I used to have back, so please pick up the pace and start hitting that smite button more often. Eventually I want to have the lowest score on the board, and only with your help can that goal be achieved. So you know what to do.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: lolmonade on October 16, 2011, 02:03:19 PM
You guys are slacking. On the first few days of my negative score being reset I got a flood of smites, but its slacked off since then. At this rate its going to take a long time for me to get those 300+ smites I used to have back, so please pick up the pace and start hitting that smite button more often. Eventually I want to have the lowest score on the board, and only with your help can that goal be achieved. So you know what to do.
Further proof that only you truly care about the applaud/smite system.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 16, 2011, 08:07:12 PM
All my smites now count as applauds and will be viewed as such.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: that Baby guy on October 17, 2011, 01:53:10 AM
All my smites now count as applauds and will be viewed as such.
Good for you.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 17, 2011, 08:04:49 PM
If I don't get like 10 smites in a day I'm going to complain about it, and we all know that complaining makes people smite me more so it will work out fine.
Title: Re: Remember to smite me.
Post by: Crimm on October 18, 2011, 12:16:32 AM
