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Title: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: cubist on August 04, 2011, 01:34:15 AM
IGN (http://wii.ign.com/articles/118/1185978p1.html) is reporting that Activision confirms that the Wii is getting Modern Warfare 3. No report of whether Activision is bringing MW2 to Wii first though.
I'm excited. Black Ops for Wii wasn't bad. Neither was MW Reflex.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 04, 2011, 02:15:28 AM
No report of whether Activision is bringing MW2 to Wii first though.
I seriously doubt it. I also don't understand why anyone would care anyway, because MW3 is basically the same exact game as MW2 only with different maps and minor tweaks here and there. Its all still the same guns and so on....
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: SixthAngel on August 04, 2011, 02:16:39 AM
It's good news but Activision would port MW to a ham sandwich if they could figure out how to plug it in so this was pretty much a done deal already.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Soren on August 04, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
It's good news but Activision would port MW to a ham sandwich if they could figure out how to plug it in so this was pretty much a done deal already.
You'll be to blame when I'm eating COD with mustard on Rye.
I've always been curious to see how the Wii COD efforts stack up in terms of sales with the HD versions. It's a plus for us though.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: ShyGuy on August 04, 2011, 03:44:10 PM
Not sure if I will get this. The last COD game killed my wii
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Stogi on August 04, 2011, 04:07:56 PM
I just want them to add a dive stab. That's it. Let me dive into someone with my knife. And when I'm prone, let me roll left and right.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: bustin98 on August 05, 2011, 11:02:54 AM
Does any game let you do that? I'm picturing the screen rolling around as your character does... what if it glitches and it sticks upsidedown? Imagine trying to play that way, or cockeyed.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Stogi on August 05, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
No clue, but I hate how slow you are when prone. I dive all the time and I wish I could shoot and stab while doing so. And once I'm on the ground, I wish I wasn't a sitting duck, is all.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 05, 2011, 10:12:32 PM
I remember in WAW there was a glitch people would exploit when they would drop to prone while sprinting and it would cause them to slither around on their belly like a snake and it made it damn difficult to kill them. I think that is the reason why Treyarch put in the Dive To Prone feature in Black Ops, because now if you try to do that slithering snake maneuver you'll just dive to prone instead.... which is a cool feature and useful at times, like if you're capturing the flag and you're running towards the capture and you can dive into it like a baseball player sliding into home.
I'm not sure but I believe you could dive to prone towards an enemy and then knife them. It would be cool and look bad ass on the kill cam, but it would be a little tricky to pull off I'd think...
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Mop it up on August 06, 2011, 03:39:42 PM
I don't think I'll be getting this one, unless it happens to garner a big following here on NWR. I just play these games for the online, and I'm kind of shooter'd out after The Conduit, Modern Warfare, and Black Ops. I haven't even opened Goldeneye yet.
I also don't understand why anyone would care anyway, because MW3 is basically the same exact game as MW2 only with different maps and minor tweaks here and there. Its all still the same guns and so on....
You could say that about any Call of Duty game, really.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: alegoicoe on August 06, 2011, 03:51:13 PM
i gave up of first person shooters after the conduit, i tried goldeneye mainly for the throwback levels, i dont play online so i dont think I'll be getting this game either.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Stogi on August 06, 2011, 03:56:39 PM
Chozo: I use the dive to jump into a hiding spot. I also use it to jump out from cover since you can turn mid-jump; it's especially useful when you know someone is around the corner.
If I could dive shoot someone, that means I could jump from cover and, like John Woo, blast while in mid-air. That could be very useful when jumping from cover to cover.
If I could dive stab someone, it would be epic. Plain and simple. Diving then stabbing doesn't cut it. I've done it during zombies and there's a down period after you dive where you can't do anything (roughly a second).
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Dasmos on August 06, 2011, 04:25:32 PM
The ability to dive and shoot/stab and being more maneuverable while prone doesn't sound exploitable at all.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 06, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
They should add the ability to run at full speed while spinning in circles with your knife hand outstretched in front of you.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 06, 2011, 09:23:49 PM
I also don't understand why anyone would care anyway, because MW3 is basically the same exact game as MW2 only with different maps and minor tweaks here and there. Its all still the same guns and so on....
You could say that about any Call of Duty game, really.
Eh, kinda.... but its worse with the Modern Warfare series because they all use the same stuff repetitively. Black Ops is supposed to be set in the late 1960s so it has Vietnam era weaponry and killstreaks and maps, so in that sense it sets itself very much apart from every other COD game to date. But the modern warfare series is all set in the same era (modern) so it basically remains the same. The engine may get tweaked and some new features may be added, but its still the same period of time and the guns and everything aren't going to be changed much if at all.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 06, 2011, 09:28:51 PM
Chozo: I use the dive to jump into a hiding spot. I also use it to jump out from cover since you can turn mid-jump; it's especially useful when you know someone is around the corner.
If I could dive shoot someone, that means I could jump from cover and, like John Woo, blast while in mid-air. That could be very useful when jumping from cover to cover.
If I could dive stab someone, it would be epic. Plain and simple. Diving then stabbing doesn't cut it. I've done it during zombies and there's a down period after you dive where you can't do anything (roughly a second).
There was a game on the PS3 (I assume 360 also) called WET which played kinda like what you are saying. You use guns and a sword and you can jump and roll and stuff and the kill enemies in mid air.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Dasmos on August 07, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
Chozo: I use the dive to jump into a hiding spot. I also use it to jump out from cover since you can turn mid-jump; it's especially useful when you know someone is around the corner.
If I could dive shoot someone, that means I could jump from cover and, like John Woo, blast while in mid-air. That could be very useful when jumping from cover to cover.
If I could dive stab someone, it would be epic. Plain and simple. Diving then stabbing doesn't cut it. I've done it during zombies and there's a down period after you dive where you can't do anything (roughly a second).
There was a game on the PS3 (I assume 360 also) called WET which played kinda like what you are saying. You use guns and a sword and you can jump and roll and stuff and the kill enemies in mid air.
Haha yeah, but WET sucked.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 07, 2011, 01:16:16 PM
Chozo: I use the dive to jump into a hiding spot. I also use it to jump out from cover since you can turn mid-jump; it's especially useful when you know someone is around the corner.
If I could dive shoot someone, that means I could jump from cover and, like John Woo, blast while in mid-air. That could be very useful when jumping from cover to cover.
If I could dive stab someone, it would be epic. Plain and simple. Diving then stabbing doesn't cut it. I've done it during zombies and there's a down period after you dive where you can't do anything (roughly a second).
There was a game on the PS3 (I assume 360 also) called WET which played kinda like what you are saying. You use guns and a sword and you can jump and roll and stuff and the kill enemies in mid air.
Haha yeah, but WET sucked.
But you get to play as a smokin hot chick who kills people.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Stogi on August 07, 2011, 02:44:56 PM
The ability to dive and shoot/stab and being more maneuverable while prone doesn't sound exploitable at all.
Not if you could only shoot one shell of shotgun and a few rounds of a gun. Plus, they could increase the time it takes to get back up if you do choose to dive stab/shoot.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on August 07, 2011, 10:16:35 PM
There is a challenge in black ops called "Shards of Glory" that you get by diving to prone through a pane of glass and then killing an enemy. I didn't even know that challenge existed and I got it on accident one day.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Retro Deckades on November 08, 2011, 10:19:04 PM
So this game was released today and I picked it up, hoping to play it soon. However, I can't find $%&# all about the Wii version on the internet. No reviews. No impressions. Nothing. Has anyone played the Wii version? I'm interested to know whether it's going to be worth it before I tear the plastic off.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Mop it up on November 08, 2011, 11:08:50 PM
I don't have it, but if you're wondering how it compares content-wise to the other versions, I've heard of a couple of things in passing. Other than reduced graphics, the Wii version also...
- is missing a few killstreaks rewards -does not have the kill cam and theater mode -less total players in an online match
These relate to multiplayer of course, I haven't heard anything about the singleplayer being different.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Retro Deckades on November 08, 2011, 11:16:48 PM
Thanks Mop. Thankfully, none of that deters me. As long as there is a solid multiplayer mode that's relatively on par with Goldeneye (or even Reflex Edition. I skipped Black Ops so I can't really compare), then I will be satisfied.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 09, 2011, 12:01:04 AM
It was done by Treyarch like all the other Wii versions, so that should put you at ease.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 09, 2011, 12:42:54 AM
I haven't played this game yet for any system, but I have read a lot of comments from people saying MW3 is basically just a glorified expansion pack for MW2. Since the Wii never got MW2 and if you've never played it I guess MW3 works out fine, but it seems like there isn't much different over the last game.
Hopefully this one will be the last in the MW series. There better not be a MW4 next year. If this is all COD is going to be then the COD franchise deserves to die. But if the MW series can be jettisoned and COD can move on to fresh and newer things then maybe it can save itself from the fate of Guitar Hero.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: NeoStar9X on November 09, 2011, 07:15:25 AM
It should be noted that in general there is a different feeling to gameplay when you compare Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops. It might be noticeable with Modern Warfare 1(Reflex) but much less so. I say that because some might have had a chance to play it if they only play CoD games on the Wii.
Infinity Ward makes design decisions I feel that are at best unfair and at worse horribly stupid. They have a problem as a company I've concluded that think they can do no wrong. A lot of decisions Treyarch made, that were simply common sense, like excluding certain perks and kill streaks (because of their cheapness, they were unbalanced, and unfair), the staking of kills from kill streaks to let you get the higher ones, removal of game ending kill streaks like the tactical nuke, and letting you customize your character and weapons were completely ignored in favor of the system that was used in Modern Warfare 2 that is being use din MW3 now. This isn't for the better I feel and it's part of why people are saying it's just Modern Warfare 2.5. It's not just because of how it looks but how it seems to actually be designed. Design decisions people have complained about for a long time, that IW knew people didn't really care for I believe. People were talking about this before the release but those really looking forward to the game tried to stop any discussion of this or label people as Battlefield 3 fanboys for even mentioning the negatives (even though that game has it's fair share of issues to.). As if you have to favor the other game just because you notice issues in this one.
This is another reason why I'm most likley passing on the game. I did not care for MW2 when I finally played it. Sure certain bad things are taken out but they've doubled down on other things and added new questionable elements. Their claim about wanting a more gun vs gun game pretty much is a lie when you look at the air offensive kill streaks they put in the game. Now with the Wii version that could be true since certain ones aren't included. I've felt in the past CoD games were better on this front as a result of the Wii's limitations. It's kinda strange. Less can be more in this case.
I hope people do enjoy it however.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 09, 2011, 07:29:20 AM
Black Ops is the most balanced COD game I've ever played, and it also has the best and most interesting singleplayer story too in my opinion. I definitely think Treyarch is the better COD studio of the two. Black Ops multiplayer isn't perfect by any means, but as I said it is the most balanced you will find anywhere. They cracked down on noob tubers and boosters which is a huge help, and they introduced the blackbird killstreak which makes it impossible for people to camp and hide. I think that's why a lot of people hate on Black Ops, because they don't like it being fair and balanced. They want something to be able to exploit the game to get cheap kills, and since that is hard to do in Black Ops they hate it and play Modern Warfare instead.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention quickscoping too. It is extremely unrealistic for soldiers to run around with sniper rifles and shooting them at close range. Treyarch fixed this problem by blocking sleight of hand pro from working with sniper rifles, which forces them more or less to be used the way sniper rifles are intended. Sure you still have people quickscoping or even no scoping, but at least it isn't easy anymore. But Infinity Ward doesn't give a **** about game balance, so the Quickdraw perk can be used with sniper rifles, so expect to see this practice return and people getting cheap unrealistic one shot kills against you at close range, when really sniper rifles are supposed to be long range weapons only.
And I hate the douchebag players out there who think you are only a good player if you quickscope. If you use any other gun or use your sniper rifle over a distance you are considered a "Noob" by these jerks. Thanks to Infinity Ward these types of players are going to be having a field day I bet.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Dasmos on November 09, 2011, 10:20:26 AM
Take it from somebody who has played the game, IW do it better than Treyarch. The single player is a trainwreck, but I haven't played a FPS in a while that wasn't this way. This game's multiplayer however shits all over Black Ops (and BF3, but that's because my comp is too **** to run it and I have only played the console version). And despite not being as cool (because of lack of zombies) Spec Ops Survival is more fun than the zombie mode in blops.
I'm glad the money system from blops is gone, I felt that I didn't have to earn anything in the game. Money wasn't hard to come by and I never didn't have enough money to buy what I wanted. It was too easy and there was a lack of accomplishment. This is the same for the emblems and callsigns, I like being able to make my own emblem but again there was no accomplishment in the things and I got pretty sick of seeing cock and balls everytime I got killed.
The levels are much better designed than previous games. They're not very big, but they're designed with a bigger focus on vertical changes. They could have used a little more variety, but that's more of a superficial gripe than anything. The new gun upgrades are pretty cool and upgrading them isn't difficult (it's just kills and headshots), but reaching levels to unlock sights and things is still more rewarding than just buying them. The pointstreaks are pretty cool too, and they can be tied to each class. It does suck that they have still included the point stacking, but hey it's hardly that unbalanced if I can exploit it too. Also it's pretty lol that they still included a nuke like streak in the MOAB.
All in all, it's fun. Not too different, just refined. I can't think of anything they took out of blops that I miss, and all the addition seems pretty cool and interesting, even if I haven't had too much time to mess around with it all.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on November 09, 2011, 03:25:12 PM
Oh yeah the Nuke from MW2. That was the worst thing of all time. I've gotten killstreaks as high as 25 so I could have activated, but I never had it set as one of my killstreaks so I never got it. But do I cheat in order to get it? No. But there were tons of players who did cheat in order to get it, by having their friend die for them 25 times via the tactical insertion. So the game would end all because some dipshit say in a corner the whole game with his friend and through no fault of anyone else.
Stuff like that happened every other game in Free-for-all. Treyarch did good by banning the use of tactical insertions in FFA mode, but it can still happen in other modes like Domination though it is less frequent. A game winning killstreak like that is just bullshit anyway, especially when the kills from other killstreaks count towards it. Treyarch wisely corrected these issues. If you want to see the game end in a nuclear explosion you can do that by playing on Nuketown, but at least whoever wins there will have earned it and not because they cheated with a buddy.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: Mop it up on November 10, 2011, 07:00:19 PM
There won't be a Modern Warfare 4 next year because the games seem to come out two years apart, so it will come out the year after next. If we see any Modern Warfare game next year, it will be a port of Modern Warfare 2 on the Wii U.
Title: Re: Modern Warfare 3 to the Wii
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2011, 07:02:37 PM
I don't think MW3 will be on Wii U. Wii U looks like it will launch in Fall 2012, so I think it's more likely that Activision would choose to release Call of Duty 9 on it instead.