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Title: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 14, 2010, 07:00:06 PM
What show would you pick? Why? and what would you do with it?
First I would choose The 4400.
It was basically Heroes before Heroes. Heroes on NBC kinda followed a similar storyline in the most general of senses. People start turning up with special powers, the government is hunting them down, of of them is trying to unite them all someone else is trying to give everyone these special powers, one of them is way too powerful and a huge war is about to break out.
OMG I never really realized how similar the 2 are even thought they are so different. The main difference between these 2 shows was that The 4400 was good and getting better. It only didn't continue because of the Writers Strike and sadly the show was right at it's climax leading into the next season. Heroes (now that I'm writing this it's obvious) was very obviously biting on the storylines from this show that I think did it better and did it first.
I would only revive this show and let it continue from where it left off, i would not make any significant changes.
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Post by: EasyCure on September 14, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
ALF!
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Post by: Halbred on September 14, 2010, 07:13:16 PM
I'd bring back Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers, Tale Spin, and Darkwing Duck.
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Post by: that Baby guy on September 14, 2010, 07:14:56 PM
You can bring back Darkwing Duck in your heart and on your GameCube, at least.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 14, 2010, 07:15:42 PM
I always thought Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip deserved a better shot than it got, but if I had to pick one it would definitely be Jericho. I loved that show, and it got a decent ending, but there was a lot more story to be told.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 14, 2010, 07:29:09 PM
I'd take over The Simpsons and then cancel it.
If WWE counts as a TV show then I would love to completely rehaul the damn thing. And let's assume I can call it WWF again. If not I'll just make up a new name and logo and just rebrand it as something different. Pro wrestling today is completely devoid of anything that made me enjoy wrestling in the first place. Taking over and rehauling the top company seems like the only way to get it "back on track". Of course I would probably piss off the existing fanbase but I honestly don't give a ****. I think that audience will only cheer for a dangerous style of wrestling done by steroid abusers so for the health and safety of the talent it will be better to be rid of that type of fan anyway.
I suppose I could take over TNA instead and be able to do the same thing without alienating the existing WWE fanbase.
I'm not very interesting in reviving dead TV shows as I'm usually cool with them being dead. Even if I liked them and wanted more I think leaving me wanting more is the ideal end result. I would much rather take something that has long ago jumped the shark and get it back on track.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 14, 2010, 08:09:45 PM
I want to smack you so hard. The last few seasons have been really good.
WWE would not count as that is a company, it would be like picking the NFL or UFC. WWE currently has 4 shows (well, technically 5, but that 5th one is a 1-hour condensed version of their main show and airs at 2AM on Sunday). I don't know how familiar you are with the reason they changed names, but they didn't do it by choice. After they were sued by the World Wildlife Fund (known as the Worldwide Fund for Nature in most countries now), they were legally not allowed to use the "WWF" initials anymore. WWE actually doesn't have a steroid problem anymore, although indy feds are a different story.
TNA is just a mess, they seem to make it up as they go along and never explain anything. Sting turned heel 8 MONTHS ago and they still have not clearly explained why. You have Samoa Joe be kidnapped on national television and no one saying anything when he showed back up 3 weeks later (or the previous year when he was trying to kill people with a machete).
There are a lot of shows, but I guess I would go with Star Trek: Enterprise. One reason is I want the primary timeline back (not the alternate timeline created in the 11th movie). The show really kicked into gear in the 3rd and 4th seasons. Manny Coto (who became showrunner in season 4) revealed several ideas and stories they planned to do if they had been given a 5th season, including:
*Having a 3 or 4 episode arc in the Mirror Univers (similar to the two-part episode "In a Mirror, Darkly" from season 4) which would have followed up on Mirror Hoshi's attempt to become Empress of the Terran Empire *Showing us Phlox's homeworld of Denobula *Having Alice Krige guest star as a engineer that gets assimilated by the Borg and becomes he Borg Queen episode *Have hints at the formation of the Federation and inch closer to the oft-mentioned but never seen Earth-Romulan War that took place from 2156-2160 (season 4 took place in 2155) *Revealing that T'Pol's father was Romulan, thus making her half-Romulan/half-Vulcan. *Having the fan-favorite Shran join Enterprise, possibly as an advisor. *Follow season 4's trend of linking it to previous Trek series by finally making the Kzinti canon (they have only appeared on Star Trek: The Animated Series, which is officially not canon) and visiting the cloud city of Stratos from the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "The Cloud"
They also would be able to keep Trip on the show as he wouldn't "die" until about 5 years in the future as it was established that he died in 2161.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 14, 2010, 08:18:34 PM
WWE would not count as that is a company, it would be like picking the NFL or UFC.
No it wouldn't (& I hate to break it to you you), because NFL & UFC aren't scripted events that come on 3-5 times a week. I would compare WWE more closely to [name Soap Opera here] as they are both fake, have horrible plot lines & come on too many times a week.
smite incoming in 3... 2... 1...
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Post by: FZeroBoyo on September 14, 2010, 08:22:57 PM
Danny Phantom is still one of my favorite Nickelodeon shows and it was a shame that it got cut down after three seasons. I would certainly let it have at least one or two more. ;D
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 14, 2010, 08:38:28 PM
WWE would not count as that is a company, it would be like picking the NFL or UFC.
No it wouldn't (& I hate to break it to you you), because NFL & UFC aren't scripted events that come on 3-5 times a week. I would compare WWE more closely to [name Soap Opera here] as they are both fake, have horrible plot lines & come on too many times a week.
smite incoming in 3... 2... 1...
Way to completely miss the point (something you falsely claim me of doing). I will put it ANOTHER way, it would be like lumping all of the CSI shows into one, or all of the Law & Order shows into one. WWE is a company, not a TV show. I wouldn't say "I pick NBC Universal" or "I pick Sony Pictures Television", because that would be another similar example.
Title: Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 14, 2010, 09:00:54 PM
Way to completely miss the point (something you falsely claim me of doing). I will put it ANOTHER way, it would be like lumping all of the CSI shows into one, or all of the Law & Order shows into one. WWE is a company, not a TV show. I wouldn't say "I pick NBC Universal" or "I pick Sony Pictures Television", because that would be another similar example.
doood. I'm just messin with you. hence the spoilered comments.
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Post by: greybrick on September 14, 2010, 09:06:02 PM
I'd bring back Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers, Tale Spin, and Darkwing Duck.
I just gave you a slow clap, yes, yes, yes. This is what the world needs.
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Post by: Shaymin on September 14, 2010, 11:32:35 PM
Since the whole Disney Afternoon was taken...
FIREFLY. Screw FOX, there was a lot of open threads set up during the show and Serenity just didn't fill the itch.
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Post by: TheBlackCat on September 14, 2010, 11:34:20 PM
Freakazoid! I can't believe they canceled after only two seasons, it was great. From what I heard the only reason they canceled it was because the marketing was for little kids but the show was popular with college-age kids. I'm not sure why that was surprising, considering stuff like the "Frenching with Freakazoid" segment and him gawking at hula girls in another. Although I wouldn't be able to get the same sort of stars on the show Spielberg did.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 14, 2010, 11:36:14 PM
FIREFLY. Screw FOX, there was a lot of open threads set up during the show and Serenity just didn't fill the itch.
This is another show I would allocate some funds for. Unfortunately I didn't watch the actual show until long after I had seen the movie, but if I had known about the show before the movie, I would have watched it when it aired.
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Post by: Sundoulos on September 14, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
I'd bring back Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers, Tale Spin, and Darkwing Duck.
I just gave you a slow clap, yes, yes, yes. This is what the world needs.
Wha? What about Duck Tales? What about the Gummi Bears? I'm ticked that Disney never released all of episodes of Gummi Bears on DVD.
And David and the Gnomes. My mom has the book this show was based on, she was given it as a kid. I was quite excited when they came out with the show, since I had really liked the book. The show ended up being extremely faithful.
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Post by: Sundoulos on September 15, 2010, 12:36:42 AM
There are several shows that I would revive if I could, but they probably wouldn't fare any better than they did originally. I believe that all of them were cancelled because they were high-budget productions.
Tales of the Gold Monkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdFN6agkNnQ) This came out on DVD this past summer, finally, and I've been netflixing it. I was only 6 or so when this came on the air, but, man, I loved it! It got greenlighted shortly after Raiders of the Lost Ark became a box office hit. It had a lot of similarities with an Indy movie, but it was supposed to have been based on an old Cary Grant movie called Only Angels Have Wings. Incidentally to the discussion, a lot of people believe this show was part of the inspiration of Disney's TaleSpin. Anyway, the show was set in 1938 in the South Pacific islands, and it had a fair share of adventure, campy 80s television, and Nazi's as bad guys. Who could ask for more?
Oh yeah, one of the main characters was a Jack Russell Terrier who wears an eyepatch. How awesome is that?
The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12yADOwa75s) When this show hit it's stride, it was great. Locations around the world. Adventure. Loose Historical context. Indy's stint in the Belgian army during WWI made for some riveting television...the episodes about Verdun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaI9fClHb1k) and the Somme stand out in my mind. I think the problem was, there were too many episodes that fell a little flat or where nothing happened at all. It also felt cheapened to have Indy run into some famous figure or another in almost every epsiode. Still, it was great stuff, and it's a shame that it got cancelled.
And for something completely different, I wish that Pushing Daisies had been saved. I don't have much to say about it except that it was colorful, creative, funny, and it had an interesting, developing mythology. My wife and I were hooked on it. It deserved to go another season or two, but I think it also got cancelled because the ratings couldn't justify the high production costs of the show.
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Post by: Caliban on September 15, 2010, 01:54:14 AM
The Middleman. It was just a plain, campy, fun show to watch. It should have definitely had a second season to end it properly.
Pushing Daisies. I would bring it back for one final season, even if I was happy how the second season ended, and was sad that there would be no more of it.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on September 15, 2010, 03:50:16 AM
+1 for Firefly. I'm surprised it took that long to get mentioned. It popped into my mind as soon as I read the topic. I would revive it and get Mr Whedon back in to continue the magic.
So many questions............
*sigh*
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Post by: Spak-Spang on September 15, 2010, 09:47:11 AM
Hmmm....
I think Heroes was a show that could have been better and should have been better. I would like to go back and properly finish season 2...but I would start with the basic plot set up and completely rework it.
Other shows, I dunno. I think the top three shows that should have never been cancelled would be Justice League Unlimited, Animaniacs, and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. Sure those are all cartoons, but they had better comedy, drama, and original ideas that most live action shows.
As for live action, I would also consider reviving Star Trek in some form. I loved Deep Space Nine, and I think it would be nice to get a Star Trek drama based during the Federation at war with an on going storyarc, starting in the middle of the war with the federation desperate and one the losing side of the battles.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 15, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
Freakazoid! I can't believe they canceled after only two seasons, it was great. From what I heard the only reason they canceled it was because the marketing was for little kids but the show was popular with college-age kids. I'm not sure why that was surprising, considering stuff like the "Frenching with Freakazoid" segment and him gawking at hula girls in another. Although I wouldn't be able to get the same sort of stars on the show Spielberg did.
That is why Nickelodeon canceled Invader Zim. They were aiming it at kids, but it was mostly watched by teens.
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Post by: Halbred on September 15, 2010, 12:56:37 PM
And for something completely different, I wish that Pushing Daisies had been saved. I don't have much to say about it except that it was colorful, creative, funny, and it had an interesting, developing mythology. My wife and I were hooked on it. It deserved to go another season or two, but I think it also got cancelled because the ratings couldn't justify the high production costs of the show.
God, I love that show. I have both seasons on DVD. There was supposed to be a 3rd season in comic book form, but it never materialized.
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Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
As for live action, I would also consider reviving Star Trek in some form. I loved Deep Space Nine, and I think it would be nice to get a Star Trek drama based during the Federation at war with an on going storyarc, starting in the middle of the war with the federation desperate and one the losing side of the battles.
Supposedly, the 5th Season of Enterprise was supposed to be just that, as they were going to do the Romulan War. But Paramount decided that they were just done with Trek and killed off Enterprise just when it was getting great.
In fact, that's the show if I had the resources and connections at the time, I would have taken over. The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience. By the time new writers stepped on to dramatically improve the series in its 3rd and 4th seasons, it was too late. The damage had already been done.
Well, I'd either take over that show or revive The Pirates of Dark Water. That show was so good that I'm astonished that it has never been revived considering it was also never finished.
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Post by: Sundoulos on September 15, 2010, 02:08:25 PM
And for something completely different, I wish that Pushing Daisies had been saved. I don't have much to say about it except that it was colorful, creative, funny, and it had an interesting, developing mythology. My wife and I were hooked on it. It deserved to go another season or two, but I think it also got cancelled because the ratings couldn't justify the high production costs of the show.
God, I love that show. I have both seasons on DVD. There was supposed to be a 3rd season in comic book form, but it never materialized.
I was disappointed in that, too. There were also rumors of a theatrical release, but I didn't have much hope for that, either. Honestly, I would have even just watched a spinoff with Emmerson Cod and Olive Snook as a detective team; I liked the buddy pairing they had with them at the end of season 2.
Also, can I just rewrite the last season of LOST so that it doesn't suck?
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Post by: Stogi on September 15, 2010, 07:25:27 PM
Assuming I somehow also had the power to resurrect people, then The Tonight Show With Johnny Carson. Still the best.
I strongly disagree. It's funny you should say that, though, since I'm wearing my Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien t-shirt today.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 15, 2010, 07:59:25 PM
Conan is a close second, and there's no shame in that.
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Post by: TheBlackCat on September 15, 2010, 09:14:16 PM
I would also not have canceled Numb3rs. The existing premise was getting old, but with the last episode they were practically begging for a reboot. Most of the original cast was moving away, with the Charlie and Amita moving overseas and most of the FBI group leaving for various places. The show could have continued with Larry and his friend taking over as the analysts, eliminate the math-solving-crime angle and switch it to physics and engineering-solving-crime angle. This would allow for a whole different set of approaches and whole different set of cases. This would give the Dad, who is staying around, a chance to be more involved. Then they bring in a new head for the FBI group to replace Don and several additional new members, leaving those familiar with how effective Charlie and his colleagues had been in a small minority.
Instead of having Don pushing for Charlie from the top, you have the remaining lower-level guys having to push for Larry to be accepted by the incredulous new guys and their especially incredulous new boss. Plus Charlie, despite being a genius, rarely acted that strange and could explain stuff to laymen well, but with Larry's eccentric behavior and difficult explaining stuff it would be much more difficult for the old guys to convince the new guys to let him get involved, and the old guys would have to do a lot of translation. This would force Larry to develop better communication skills over time since he no longer has Charlie and Amita to translate for him and even the Don had difficult understanding him. Charlie and Amita could still appear as occasional guests giving advice remotely, but their involvement would need to be kept to a minimum and phased out over time.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 15, 2010, 10:08:45 PM
The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience.
You got that hilariously wrong (not putting you done, your mistake just made me laugh), that is one person. Brannon Braga is one person, his writing partner was Rick Berman (who basically became head of the Trek franchise after Roddenberry died). Apparently one of Berman's early ideas (before it got shot down by Paramount) was to have the entire first season spent on Earth while Enterprise was being built. Both have done a good job on Trek, but they made a mistake with the early episodes of Enterprise. They eventually improved it, but it was too late. It's a shame UPN didn't give it a 5th season since Manny Coto (who became showrunner in season 4) had explained the differences in the Trek series (like why the Vulcans on the show were so different from future Vulcans) and had tied the series to future Trek events; he also had a ton of great storylines planned for season 5.
No on Conan. I liked him, but I would not put him in the top 2 of Tonight Show hosts (well, maybe better than Carson. Carson retired when I was just 6, but he did not seem funny based on stuff of his I have seen).
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 15, 2010, 10:25:51 PM
No on Conan. I liked him, but I would not put him in the top 2 of Tonight Show hosts (well, maybe better than Carson. Carson retired when I was just 6, but he did not seem funny based on stuff of his I have seen).
LOL Wut?.jpg
Carson is what ALL Late Nite TV talk show host aspire to be.
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Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2010, 10:39:22 PM
The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience.
You got that hilariously wrong (not putting you done, your mistake just made me laugh), that is one person. Brannon Braga is one person, his writing partner was Rick Berman (who basically became head of the Trek franchise after Roddenberry died). Apparently one of Berman's early ideas (before it got shot down by Paramount) was to have the entire first season spent on Earth while Enterprise was being built. Both have done a good job on Trek, but they made a mistake with the early episodes of Enterprise. They eventually improved it, but it was too late. It's a shame UPN didn't give it a 5th season since Manny Coto (who became showrunner in season 4) had explained the differences in the Trek series (like why the Vulcans on the show were so different from future Vulcans) and had tied the series to future Trek events; he also had a ton of great storylines planned for season 5.
Bleh, I meant to write "Berman and Braga". I guess it really has been that many years since I watched my DVDs. :P:
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2010, 10:45:35 PM
Berman and Braga didn't have as much to do with Deep Space Nine; they were involved, but didn't really seem to do much hands-on work with it, and then Enterprise didn't really get great until they weren't in charge either.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 16, 2010, 12:54:16 AM
Berman co-created DS9 (he pitched the idea to Paramount, and developed it with Michael Pillar). He also co-wrote 3 episodes (the pilot, plus the two episodes that introduced the Maquis). He was also one of the three executive producers, and the only one who was on for all seven seasons.
Braga didn't work on DS9 at all. He went straight from working on TNG to creating Voyager (while working on Star Trek Generations in-between).
The two did a ton on Enterprise, they wrote 37 episodes together (although the only season 4 episode they wrote was the series finale, "These Are the Voyages...").
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Post by: ThePerm on September 16, 2010, 03:08:23 AM
yeah as insanolord said definitely Jericho, that show ended on a ridiculous note..and just had me craving more
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Post by: Toruresu on September 16, 2010, 11:50:53 AM
No mention of Stargate SG-1 or Stargate Atlantis makes me sad. SG-1 needs a proper ending and Atlantis just ended too soon, right when it was getting it's act together and actually being good.
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Post by: apdude on September 16, 2010, 02:52:13 PM
I would have liked to have one more season of Farscape. They were close to finishing up the story then got pulled halfway through the 4th season so they had to come up with some story to try to tie it all up and ended up screwing the whole thing.
Muppets in space how can you go wrong?
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Post by: Spak-Spang on September 16, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
As for live action, I would also consider reviving Star Trek in some form. I loved Deep Space Nine, and I think it would be nice to get a Star Trek drama based during the Federation at war with an on going storyarc, starting in the middle of the war with the federation desperate and one the losing side of the battles.
Interesting. I feel bad for Enterprise, because the first seasons alienated so many Trek fans including me, that when it got good it was too late. Though, that 5th season sounds amazing.
Supposedly, the 5th Season of Enterprise was supposed to be just that, as they were going to do the Romulan War. But Paramount decided that they were just done with Trek and killed off Enterprise just when it was getting great.
In fact, that's the show if I had the resources and connections at the time, I would have taken over. The show died early on because Brannon and Braga were (are?) incompetent writers and never let the show breath as its own experience. By the time new writers stepped on to dramatically improve the series in its 3rd and 4th seasons, it was too late. The damage had already been done.
Well, I'd either take over that show or revive The Pirates of Dark Water. That show was so good that I'm astonished that it has never been revived considering it was also never finished.
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Post by: bustin98 on September 16, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
One show that can be done right with new tech is Greatest American Hero. Just keep the theme song the same. Don't think I could find a blonde with an afro in this age.
I second Firefly. And with SG-1, I would re-write it so season 9 and 10 never happened, and force Richard Dean Anderson on a diet. I guess that might be cruel, he could have some sort of ailment that forced him to cut back on activities. I just miss that chemistry the original SG-1 had.
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Post by: jrlibrarian on September 16, 2010, 10:27:06 PM
FIREFLY. Screw FOX, there was a lot of open threads set up during the show and Serenity just didn't fill the itch.
Hell yes. My friend and I will still have hours-long discussions about this show. Joss has hinted that there may be a second movie, and that might lead to a revival.
Also, they need to work faster on the sequel to Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog.
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Post by: Sundoulos on September 16, 2010, 10:52:41 PM
I just hate that that Serenity killed off my two favorite characters.
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Post by: that Baby guy on September 16, 2010, 11:43:50 PM
No mention of Stargate SG-1 or Stargate Atlantis makes me sad. SG-1 needs a proper ending and Atlantis just ended too soon, right when it was getting it's act together and actually being good.
Try to watch the SG-1 movies. They tie up everything pretty well, and offer a bit of closure.
For me, though... Underdog!
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Post by: Morari on September 17, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
We need to get Twin Peaks back. Let's forget the majority of the second season and do it right! Come on, Lynch!
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Post by: oohhboy on September 18, 2010, 02:26:02 PM
My choice would be ReBoot. It ended on an unresolved cliff hanger and damn it was a damn clever show even if I was too oblivious to realise it at the time. It contains so many old school censorship **** you for a kids show. A tight story line. Great cameos. Excellent mythology. Characters I could care about.
Sure the first two seasons could be rendered in real time with my current computer and season 3-4 could also be if it was tweaked for gaming graphics cards with modern shaders. The animation was always a little stiff, but damn did the show have immense charm.
I wonder if Nintendo was watching the show when they designed the GameCube...
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Post by: ThePerm on September 18, 2010, 08:14:59 PM
as bad as people think reboot looks now, i was amazed by how it looked as a kid. What else was there to compare it to honestly?
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Post by: broodwars on September 18, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
as bad as people think reboot looks now, i was amazed by how it looked as a kid. What else was there to compare it to honestly?
Beast Wars, which was animated by the same studio and looked much better. I think Beast Wars started up roughly sometime during Reboot's original run.
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Post by: ThePerm on September 18, 2010, 09:19:12 PM
Beast Wars the TV show came out in 1996, 2 years after Reboot which was enough time for improvements to be made. Reboot was in development long before it actually came out.
the funny thing i just read was Beast Wars was called Beasties on Ytv because they were uncomfortable with the name....Beasties sounds way worse to me....
also, if i could take over and redo a tv show it would be hands down Power Rangers
Title: Re: If you had the resources to take over/revive a TV show....
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2010, 10:24:08 AM
also, if i could take over and redo a tv show it would be hands down Power Rangers
but what would you do differently to it? Because according to http://powerrangers.com/ there is another season coming next year. (this show has been going for 15+ already?)
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 19, 2010, 02:15:30 PM
Each Power Rangers series is technically part of the same universe, although for all intents and purposes they are seperate since there is almost no crossover.
There was no Power Rangers season last year because Disney didn't feel like converting that years Sentei series (which was more Japanese focused than normal, to the point that it would have been very difficult to make it feel like it's set in America). Now that Saban has bought back the rights, next Spring they will air the 18th season and it will be on Nickelodeon (the last few seasons had been airing on Disney XD). They will air 40 episodes, bringing the franchise up to over 700. The last season I watched was Power Rangers in Space, which was the sixth season and the last to feature characters starring in more than one season (after that, every season would feature a new batch of Rangers).
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Post by: ThePerm on September 19, 2010, 11:27:52 PM
for power rangers....
well think of the original American might morphin power rangers plot
(http://www.factpile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/kerrigan.jpg) An alien queen from outer space, has built a base on the moon. She seeks to make Earth a part of her dominion. She has futuristic technology and manufactures gargantuan sized creatures with building destroying strangth. (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/CloverfieldMonster.jpg)
However this is not the first time conflict has been put upon earth. Eons ago, another alien had taken base on the planet and sought to help the primative earthlings fight her forces. So he built these giant mechs that could battle her creatures. (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/t.jpg) His name is Zordon and he has an assistant robot. Not only did her build giant mechs, he gave the powerful exo suits that made them fight creatures called putties. (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/clayfaceAttax1.jpg) He assembles a team of badasses (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/the_a_team_01.jpg) and has them wear the suits (http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/iron-man.jpg) but as it turns out Rita is just miniscule compared to other alien invaders
if you take the plot and think outside the confines of original designs than it sounds really good, if they were to spend a movies budget on the first couple of episodes than the production value would carry over. It worked for Lost for a couple of seasons, and it worked for the third season of Batman the Tv show, after they made the movie they had a bunch of assets from the movie to use in episodes.
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Post by: Morari on September 20, 2010, 01:12:28 AM
I'd really like to see a giant rubber monster suit battle with Cthulhu. Too bad the Power Rangers would all go insane in the battle. We'd have to have...
Godzilla vs. Cthulhu!
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Post by: ThePerm on September 20, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHv_vdDM90E
so i was working in my 3d program today... :P
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Post by: Halbred on September 20, 2010, 02:37:07 PM
Well, the Justice League fought Cthulhu's sibling, Icthulhu...
I think The Bionic Woman had great potential, but the writing and plotlines were crap, which is why the show failed.
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Post by: vudu on September 20, 2010, 03:57:31 PM
We need to get Twin Peaks back. Let's forget the majority of the second season and do it right! Come on, Lynch!
I agree with this 100%. The first 1.5 seasons were great. Then it started to suck, but the last couple episodes were top-notch. And it ended on such a cliff-hanger!
Also, while I don't really want to bring this back now--mostly because all the actors are way too old for it now--I wouldn't have minded another season or two of Freaks & Geeks.
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Post by: TheBlackCat on September 20, 2010, 04:17:01 PM
I'd really like to see a giant rubber monster suit battle with Cthulhu. Too bad the Power Rangers would all go insane in the battle. We'd have to have...
Godzilla vs. Cthulhu!
No, it has to be Bambi vs. Cthulhu (http://www.phobos-deimos.com/Cthulhu/Bambi_vs_Cthulhu.swf)!!!
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Post by: Halbred on September 20, 2010, 04:18:07 PM
I didn't like Freaks & Geeks or its spiritual successor, Undeclared.
Has anyone noticed that the brunette from Undeclared has gone on to play an unbroken series of "nekkid chick" roles, including Californication, Sarah Marshall, Carnivale, Get Him to the Greek, and like two others that I can't think of off the top of my head?
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Post by: Khushrenada on September 20, 2010, 08:32:13 PM
Teddy Ruxpin. It totally ended on a mysterious cliffhanger and I need new songs to replace the old ones still stuck in my head.
Everyone sing along:
Cause you're my dad, I'm your dad, You're my dad I'm your dad You're my dad and I'm glad we're together again.
Pure poetry. Your move Kanye.
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Post by: King of Twitch on September 21, 2010, 07:21:21 PM
Teddy Ruxpin. It totally ended on a mysterious cliffhanger and I need new songs to replace the old ones still stuck in my head.
Everyone sing along:
Cause you're my dad, I'm your dad, You're my dad I'm your dad You're my dad and I'm glad we're together again.
Pure poetry. Your move Kanye.
:-*
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 21, 2010, 08:03:42 PM
As a kid I didn't care for Teddy Ruxpin. I thought he was a wimpy do-gooder and I hated characters like that when I was a kid. Of course I can't really remember much of the show at all (I remember some flying owl dudes in armour and a line of a song that said "do the octopede shuffle") so I can't say for sure if that assessment of Teddy's character is accurate.
The thing that's funny is despite not really liking the show I watched it quite a lot. As a kid there was this weird sort of rule that if a cartoon is on, and there is not some conflicting cartoon that I would rather be watching, I had to watch it. Somehow watching a cartoon I didn't like was still better than not watching TV at all. I had my favourites, the shows I was indifferent to, and the ones I hated and if they all came in some big block on Saturday morning or on a weekday afternoon I watched ALL of them. I would never do this as an adult.
Chip 'n' Dale: Rescue Rangers was another show that I watched probably every episode of but didn't really like because the Rangers were a bunch of square do-gooders. You might consider Batman a do-gooder since he is on the side of the law and such but he's not because he kicks the bad guys' asses. Wimpy do-gooders defeat the enemy through the power of friendship and lame bullshit like that. They're the schoolyard equivalent of the snitch who ruins everyone's fun. Batman kicking a crook's ass and Bugs Bunny dropping anvils on Elmer Fudd's head are like the guy on the schoolyard who just punch the bullies in the face without involving any teachers.
As a kid it became very clear that in the school the teachers' rules more or less existed to ruin everyone's fun and that the only way to get a fair shake was to stand up to bullies yourself or with the help of your friends. If some kid started beating you up you knew that you BOTH would get in trouble for "fighting" so you might as well fight back. You could tell that talking to bullies and trying to make friends with them did not work at all and that those suggesting it were full of ****. But that's essentially what Teddy and the Rescue Rangers and the Care Bears were all doing. Even as a young kid I could immediately notice how unrealistic this was and was insulted that the creators of the show thought I would fall for it. Batman, Bugs Bunny and the Ninja Turtles stood up for themselves with force and that was would worked on the schoolyard in real life so I got into it. It's interesting that while concerned parents don't want violence in kids entertainment the honest truth is as a kid that's the only way to maintain order. You can't reason with an 8 year old bully. If you want him off your back you have to fight back because fear of getting his ass kicked is the only thing that his young immature brain can comprehend. Kids relate to shows here the hero defeats clear bad guys with violent self-defense because it's something they understand.
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Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2010, 11:05:09 PM
yeah, when I was a very young kid, we didn't have other things to do so we ended up watching everything. We didn't have a Nintendo until I was 6, and before that we had a commodore 64, which I was either never allowed to use, or couldn't figure out. Actually, a couple of years ago I had a commodore emulator, and I couldn't figure that out either.
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Post by: Morari on September 22, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
You guys must not have had back yards as children, huh? I recall only ever being invested in a few television shows (Pee-Wee, Wild America, Ninja Turtles). Otherwise I was in the forest building tepees and dueling my brother with wooden swords. I would have never watched television simply for the sake of watching it, regardless of like for the show.
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 22, 2010, 12:17:33 PM
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You guys must not have had back yards as children, huh?
My parents have an acre and live in a rural area so there was tons of room to play outside. The thing is I live in the Pacific Northwest which in the fall and winter is infamous for a certain type of weather that forces you indoors.
Plus lacking a videogame system for most of my childhood watching TV and going outside were the only things I pretty much could do to entertain myself. So if cartoons were on then that's what I'd do because there was going to be plenty of time where nothing was on and going outside was the only option.
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Post by: bustin98 on September 22, 2010, 01:20:39 PM
I'm Marty Stouffer and this is Wild America
I love that show.
As a kid, my Mom limited tv to one hour a week. Unless she wasn't there :D I spent the majority of my time playing outside stealing material from new home sites and building tree forts. Really, it was just scrap wood and pallets. Sometimes we'd get lucky by finding a full plywood sheet just laying around.
I got more invested in watching TV as I got into my teen years, also corresponding with the height of the commercial toon, what with Thundercats, MASK, Transformers, GI Joe, Visionaries, COPS, Real Ghostbusters, Bionic Six, Super Friends, etc... And then nightly programs like Star Trek, TNG, America's Funniest Videos, Dr Who, Perfect Strangers, Who's the Boss, Family Matters, Growing Pains, the best Saturday Night Live with Mike Myers and Dana Carvey and Phil Hartman (R.I.P.) and Chris Farley (R.I.P.).
I don't watch tv much anymore. They don't make tv like they used to.
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Post by: ThePerm on September 22, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
when I was very young we had a small back yard, not much to do.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/albumalbum/1.jpg) I could play on my horsie, play ghostbusters with friends, and not much out. When I was 8 we got a rural house with 2 acres of land + woods. So when we weren't playing Sega and Nintendo or watching Fox Kids or other cartoons blocks we were at the tree house we built.
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Post by: Morari on September 22, 2010, 07:20:21 PM
You guys must not have had back yards as children, huh?
My parents have an acre and live in a rural area so there was tons of room to play outside. The thing is I live in the Pacific Northwest which in the fall and winter is infamous for a certain type of weather that forces you indoors.
No snowball fights? :P
Plenty of fun things to do inside too... My brother and I had several storage tubs full of Legos, which took up most of the floor space in my bedroom when built into long-standing towns.
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Post by: Halbred on September 22, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
Was I the only one who didn't bother making my own stuff from LEGOs? I was always perfectly happy with the stuff the instructions instructed you to build. Using that method, I had a thriving medieval civilization in my room, and had absolutely no inclination to make sh*t up. 99% of my friends, however, build their own stuff.
I liked the old space stuff and the old castle stuff. Quite often, time warps would pull the spacemen into the forgotten past, only to be plagued by skeleton armies and fire-breathing dragons!
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Post by: Morari on September 22, 2010, 09:04:32 PM
I would always build the set, play with it for a few days, then tear it down and use the parts for my own stuff. The prefab sets were usually pretty mundane compared to a child's creativity. If it hadn't been for all the clashing colors, that town would have looked pretty darn cool. :P
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Post by: broodwars on September 22, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
I used to (and may still, for that matter) own a fully-functional Lego monorail set. I used to play with Legos (and Duplos and Lincoln Logs) all the time, usually recreating various theme park rides and whatnot I'd seen at Disneyworld recently. I remember my Tower of Terror with manually-operated elevator and set-pieces to be pretty badass. I kept that thing together for weeks. ;)
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Post by: ThePerm on September 23, 2010, 02:02:51 AM
Was I the only one who didn't bother making my own stuff from LEGOs? I was always perfectly happy with the stuff the instructions instructed you to build. Using that method, I had a thriving medieval civilization in my room, and had absolutely no inclination to make sh*t up. 99% of my friends, however, build their own stuff.
haha, i hate to sound mean, but it reminds me of a special I watched on Neanderthals. They were incredibly smart, they just weren't very creative.
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Post by: bustin98 on September 23, 2010, 09:02:16 AM
I remember buying Metroplex, the transformer. It came in a fairly large box with styrofoam all around it. I cut and glued and taped to that styrofoam and made my own Superpowers base... lol. No, glue and tape doesn't work very well with styrofoam. But I had a good time with Darkseid and Wonder Woman. o_O
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Post by: Ian Sane on September 23, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
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No snowball fights?
Not familiar with Pacific Northwest weather I see. :D It snows like two or three times a year. No, the winter weather is RAIN. Lots and lots of RAIN which even if you want to play in it your Mom is certainly not going to allow you to.
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Post by: jrlibrarian on September 23, 2010, 09:53:34 PM
Yeah, and even when it does get around to snowing, it lasts for about five hours at the most. Every other year or so, there will be a snowstorm that will leave snow for at most a week, but it's icy and painful to have snowball fights with.
