Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Stratos on June 18, 2010, 05:03:36 AM
Title: MGS:3DS
Post by: Stratos on June 18, 2010, 05:03:36 AM
I'm very excited for this but I do have one question... where is MGS 2?
I wanted to play the series in order on Nintendo systems.
I guess there is always hope that 4 will come to the Wii 2.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Peachylala on June 18, 2010, 11:31:23 AM
Oh wow Kojima my second least favorite MGS game, you surely are earning my spending dollars.
I'd much rather take a different Kojima game. Give the guy a break already Konammy.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Sundoulos on June 18, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
I'm excited about MGS 3 as well. It was one of my favorite MGS games...I never was able to finish it, though. I had bought it used and the disc was bad. There's a cutscene in near the game where it always freezes.
Perhaps this will be my opportunity to finish it.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Louieturkey on June 18, 2010, 03:28:59 PM
I was always tempted to pick up the PS Collection of the three games, but never did. I'll be tempted again on this game but most likely won't bite on it. Too many other games to play. Maybe when someone does a speedrun of it I'll watch it.
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Post by: Adrock on June 18, 2010, 04:44:27 PM
I'm curious why Snake Eater and not Peace Walker.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Kytim89 on June 18, 2010, 04:50:54 PM
Why not a remake of the orginal Metal Gear?
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Adrock on June 18, 2010, 05:26:21 PM
You're really attached to that, aren't you? Not that it matters and it could change at any moment, but I remember that issue being brought up to Hideo Kojima in an old interview and he fumbled some response about how it would be difficult to remake Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 because they were less advanced games. I think the subtext was that he doesn't want to. Seriously, who cares? Have you even played those games? They're awful. The plots are sophomoric at best and if they were going to remake them, they'd just be making entirely new games anyway. The Solid games barely mention them and they are constantly retconned. Only Snake, Grey Fox and Big Boss are of any significance. I think they mention Dr. Madnar in passing in MGS4. Don't know who that is? Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Kytim89 on June 18, 2010, 05:42:58 PM
Kojima could remake the game and fit into what has been established for the series so far. He could also make the story better and cut out all the awfullness of the older game. Although I would not mind seeing enhanced ports of the older games and possibly a port of Peace Walker, I would not mind seeing a new title involving Big Boss in Afghanistan in the 1980s for the 3DS.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 18, 2010, 05:46:58 PM
What's the point, though? You're already dramatically changing the gameplay, to heavily modify the story on top of that, it's not even really a remake anymore.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Ian Sane on June 18, 2010, 06:27:24 PM
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The plots are sophomoric at best
... and this is different from the plots of all the Metal Gear Solid games how exactly? And I say that as a fan of the series. ;D
I suggest they re-release the old Metal Gears as WiiWare or on the VC. Isn't that the obvious way to go?
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Kytim89 on June 18, 2010, 09:06:03 PM
I would just like to see a young Solid Snake goe up against Big Boss in 3-D.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Adrock on June 19, 2010, 02:51:23 AM
I was always tempted to pick up the PS Collection of the three games, but never did. I'll be tempted again on this game but most likely won't bite on it. Too many other games to play. Maybe when someone does a speedrun of it I'll watch it.
I have been contemplating the PS trilogy collection but now that 3 is coming I'll just hold out for 2 to make an appearance in the future.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
Stratos, wheres the pics and video of this game?
let me help you get started.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/15f3lg7.jpg)
and the video: http://tinypic.com/m/am75ur/3
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 21, 2010, 03:28:31 PM
Not that it matters, but it's just 3D (not 3DS). So Metal Gear Solid 3D: Snake Eater according to Konami. In fact, most of the 3DS games use the "3D" name, not "3DS".
The only MSG game i've played was Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, I may have played the original NES version (but I don't remember).
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2010, 03:41:32 PM
but we know what he's talking about. Who wants to write out Snake Eater or MGS3DSE? or the title to any other game when there is only one for the 3DS at this point.
It's the only MG for the 3DS so calling it MGS3DS is perfectly fine.
The Original MG(NES) was cool, the 2nd was different... not bad, but I preferred the Original(NES) MGS 1 was good, MGS2 was pretty good and MGS TTS was a good remake of 1 with blended elements of 2.
I never played MGS3, MGS4, PW, AC!D or Online.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Adrock on June 21, 2010, 06:18:27 PM
Is that character model of Snake in Snake Eater 3DS (I'm going to call it this to avoid confusion for myself... uh...) in-game or pre-rendered? I have Peace Walker and I am mighty impressed with the graphics in that game, especially Naked Snake's character model, but that Snake Eater 3DS character model wipes the floor with Peace Walker's Naked Snake.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2010, 06:21:17 PM
It was supposedly a real-time non-playable demo. meaning those are the in-game assets. which means 1st gen 3DS stuff is mopping the floor with 5th gen PSP stuff.
wait for Monster Hunter 3DS.... Wii and PSP am cry
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Stratos on June 21, 2010, 06:29:12 PM
It was supposedly a real-time non-playable demo. meaning those are the in-game assets. which means 1st gen 3DS stuff is mopping the floor with 5th gen PSP stuff.
wait for Monster Hunter 3DS.... Wii and PSP am cry
I'm actually concerned how a MH 3DS would play because of the lack of a second analogue stick for camera control. I guess the D-pap could function but that is less than ideal in my mind.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2010, 06:33:20 PM
your touch screen is your second analog. all the action would happen on the upper screen.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Adrock on June 21, 2010, 06:37:43 PM
Monster Hunter works perfectly well on PSP and that doesn't have a second analog stick. In fact, my brother actually prefers Freedom Unite to Monster Hunter Tri. Also, there's still a small glimmer of hope that Nintendo will add a second slide pad... ok, no there isn't....
Anyway, I hope to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Square Enix remakes Final Fantasy VI with proportional character models and structures just so I can see Celes Chere in 3D. That really needs to happen. As much as I bitch about remakes, I'm pretty sure I'll end up buying Ocarina of Time and Metal Gear though the the latter in hopes that Kojima will make a ground up canon Metal Gear Solid for 3DS.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Kytim89 on June 21, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
I have to wonder if Konami and Kojima are planning a MGS collection/series remake for the 3DS? If so, I would welcome the idea, but I would prefer MGS 3 on a portable over anything in the series. However, a remake of the original Metal Gear game would be nice as well.
Ah hell, I want Kojima to return to the Snatcher and Policenauts series and release thise games on the 3DS with enhanced graphics and possibly sequels. I happen to be a fan of the Snatcher series and would love to have it on the 3DS.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Kytim89 on June 21, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
Monster Hunter works perfectly well on PSP and that doesn't have a second analog stick. In fact, my brother actually prefers Freedom Unite to Monster Hunter Tri. Also, there's still a small glimmer of hope that Nintendo will add a second slide pad... ok, no there isn't....
Anyway, I hope to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that Square Enix remakes Final Fantasy VI with proportional character models and structures just so I can see Celes Chere in 3D. That really needs to happen. As much as I bitch about remakes, I'm pretty sure I'll end up buying Ocarina of Time and Metal Gear though the the latter in hopes that Kojima will make a ground up canon Metal Gear Solid for 3DS.
My idea for another ground up MGS title on a portable, mainly the 3DS, would be set in Afghanistan in the 1980s and would have a middle aged Big Boss(salt and peppered beared and hair?) leading his MSF into a mission.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Peachylala on June 21, 2010, 08:24:18 PM
At this point, Kojima has grounded the MGS canon into dust. We do not need anymore retcons, please.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Ymeegod on June 22, 2010, 12:13:15 AM
To anwser your question why MGS3 over MGS2--I think they were smart going with Snake Eater because it was a prequel, the start of it all. Lets face it, many of nintendo's current fanbase hasn't played a single one so instead of throwing them into the middle of a story they are going with a fresh start.
As for MGS 2, you really isn't missing much--unless of course you want to play as a naked Raiden :(. And for MGS4, not sure what to make of that one, it had alot of flashbacks for loyal followers but if you skipped over them and just started with that I would assume you would be utterely lost.
Snake Eater was one of my favorites and IMO worth checking out.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Caliban on June 22, 2010, 12:17:58 AM
It still looks great, and I just watched the trailer for the Resident Evil 3DS game and it looks great too by the way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqIpy8Wq06U
It's also real-time
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Caliban on June 22, 2010, 11:01:44 AM
Yes. I know.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Louieturkey on June 24, 2010, 03:29:32 PM
Real Time is the new buzz word...er...old buzz word I guess.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: ThePerm on June 25, 2010, 12:48:43 AM
its confirmed real time? if so Holy ****!
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 29, 2010, 07:19:20 PM
has anyone seen the whole MGS3D trailer? http://kotaku.com/5650855/metal-gear-solid-3ds-goes-overboard-with-the-3d-in-this-new-trailer
I can't wait to watch this on the 3DS screen. I'm not 100% sold on 3D, but this trailer definitely makes sure you see what they are doing.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Stratos on September 29, 2010, 11:11:05 PM
Yeah, it's obvious that it is designed to show off 3D.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 30, 2010, 03:24:24 PM
It's also obviously in-game. There is no way that it's pre-rendered.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2011, 02:50:33 AM
This game looks good.... and OMG! Who is that!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7sD0jDrPOs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7sD0jDrPOs)
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Tanookisuit on June 03, 2011, 09:38:20 AM
Yeah, that looks really good.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: FZeroBoyo on June 05, 2011, 12:28:37 AM
I've never played any other Metal Gear games. Since this is a prequel, would I be alright going into this one first?
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: Adrock on June 05, 2011, 12:56:18 AM
To understand the series story arc, you only really need to play Snake Eater, Peace Walker, Twin Snakes, Sons of Liberty, and Guns of the Patriots. In that order. Portable Ops messes with the timeline and ultimately makes no sense so I would ignore it (you won't miss much) while the original 2D games on MSX (Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2) are oddly inconsequential. Everything you need to know about those games is explained in Twin Snakes. On a side note, I would recommend tracking down Ghost Babel (called Metal Gear Solid in NA) on Gameboy Color. It's not canon, but it's a pretty awesome game. Shame Konami never made a GBA or DS follow-up.
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Post by: Halbred on June 05, 2011, 04:22:05 AM
Yup, Snake Eater, Peace Walker, Twin Snakes, MGS2, and Guns of the Patriots. What's unfortunate is that MGS3: Subsistence (the good version) changes up the camera scheme for the BETTER while Twin Snakes and MGS2 have broken cameras. So it's going to be an inconsistent journey, but it's very worthwhile. From a gameplay perspective, I think MGS4 is the best game (you have tons of options) but from a story perspective, MGS3 is the best. From a mind-blowing perspective, MGS2 is pretty awesome.
Twin Snakes is the best game focused on Solid Snake.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: leahsdad on June 09, 2011, 01:12:27 AM
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From a mind-blowing perspective, MGS2 is pretty awesome.
Oh my god, are we calling that "mind-blowing?" I have a few different expletives I would use. To be honest, I would steer everyone away from that game. It's fun during the game, and the story is alright, up until the last bit after the main character (who I shall not name, to avoid spoilers) gets buck-naked. And then it just gets so bat-**** crazy (story wise) that I my jaw was on the floor thinking what crazy idiot thought this up? Oh, Hideki.
Personally, I don't think you need to have played any of the other games prior to enjoy Snake Eater, and especially considering that there's no personal radar in the game, it may even be better in terms of gameplay. When I first started playing, the lack of personal radar really freaked me out.
Title: Re: MGS:3DS
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2011, 10:56:47 AM
