Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Kytim89 on January 27, 2010, 02:15:04 AM
Title: Grand Theft Auto wii
Post by: Kytim89 on January 27, 2010, 02:15:04 AM
One game that I am looking forward to in the future is a GTA game for the wii. I have to admit that I am one of the biggest fans of the series and actually enjoyed China Town Wars for the DS. However, how would the game fare on the wii?
The graphical visual style could adapt the over world look of GTA 4 into a style reminiscent of Shattered Memories. The charcter controls and weapon system similar to that of RE 4 where you use the wii mote to target and shoot.
As for fighting, Rockstar could include the boxing motion from wii sports to suit the needs of the game. Imagine beating someone with a bat in the game while holding the wii mote like a club. This motion would be enhanced by the wii motion plus, of course.
I am a little confused as to how you would drive vehicules. Perhaps holding the wii mote side ways or something similar to the driving mechanics of the first No More Heroes game.
Overall, it would be a GTA game with motion controls. However, considering the quality of the DS game, I am sure that this iteration would be something that no wii owner should miss. Lastly, It is not a matter of "if," but "When" for this games release. Rockstar is probably working on it as we speak and I suspect E3 2010 for its debut, similar to how GTA DS was announced during the 2008 show.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Caterkiller on January 27, 2010, 03:26:05 AM
I remember discussions like these in the PGC forums. I sware kytim89 is traveling through time like in Lost, but some how keeps the discussions relevant by talking about the current generation of systems. Kytim how old are you, if you don't mind me asking? You remind me of younger me.
As for the GTA talk, it aint gonna happen until the Nintendo 6. Then Nintendo will have the power and user base that no developer can ignore. But thats a while away so it is completely out of my mind.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 27, 2010, 06:06:21 AM
Judging by the 89 in his username I am going to go out on a limb and assume that was the year he was born, which would make him 19-20.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Stratos on January 27, 2010, 06:27:00 AM
I quite enjoyed Chinatown Wars. But I hear sales for that game were mediocre so I sadly doubt that they are inclined to make a Wii version at the moment. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
If you want to play a game like that, try The Godfather or Scarface. I've yet to try Scarface but I adored Godfather on Wii.
People tend to classify No More Heroes as a sandbox game as well but it's not quite the same though it does have a free-roaming world with side missions and such.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Ian Sane on January 27, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
Since Grand Theft Auto worked on the PS2 is can obviously work on the Wii. It just needs to be original and have the scope of the main series. It has to be treated like a REAL GTA game and not just some GTA product for the "Wii audience" passed off to the b-team. Put the same effort into GTA Wii as was put in GTA IV and you've got a winner. I will not even consider buying anything less.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 27, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
Ian is right. If the Wii gets a GTA game, it better be a REAL GTA game and not an on-rails collection of minigames.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: broodwars on January 27, 2010, 02:51:03 PM
We already have GTA on Wii: it's called Bully and you should play it, TC. Given how sick I am of open world games at this point, I'm perfectly fine with not getting another GTA-type game on the Wii.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: D_Average on January 27, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
Bully is an awesome game no Wii owner should pass on. Great story, great concept, and solid controls. Get it.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Stratos on January 27, 2010, 04:36:33 PM
Would you guys rate Bully higher than Scarface? I was planning to get Scarface when I felt like another sandbox game but I might get Bully instead.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: broodwars on January 27, 2010, 04:47:43 PM
Would you guys rate Bully higher than Scarface? I was planning to get Scarface when I felt like another sandbox game but I might get Bully instead.
I haven't played Scarface (I have played Bully, though), as for the most part Open World games aren't really my thing. From what I've heard of the game, though, the Wii version of Bully's definitely a better experience.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: EasyCure on January 27, 2010, 07:26:37 PM
I'm the only one on these boards who prefered Scarface over both Godfather and Bully eh? To be honest I only played Bully for an hour or so, since I lent it to my girlfriend to play and just wanted to try it out, but I couldn't get in to it. Godfather was awesome, and I played/beat it before scarface but I'm sorry.. I just like Scarface better. IMO the Godfather was fugly, and while it had more side missions than Scarface, they were just as repetitive. Godfather had better gesture based controls, but Scarface had better IR controls which ended up being more important.
What takes Scarface up a notch in my book is that the faster cars (with SOLID driving controls) combined with a soundtrack full of 80s tunes is just pure WIN in my book. Oh and the al pacino sound-alike does a great fucking job bringing the character to life. I sometimes I still play this to blow off some steam and keep laughing at his taunts and oddball sayings like "Man, I gotta get another tiger" lol. Plus its fun to decorate your mansion :P, which IMO is more fun than finding every safe to blow up or bank to heist in GF
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 27, 2010, 09:17:52 PM
I quite enjoyed Chinatown Wars. But I hear sales for that game were mediocre so I sadly doubt that they are inclined to make a Wii version at the moment. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
To be fair, the PSP version of Chinatown Wars is selling poorly too. I haven't played either version, but the DS version got a lot of good reviews and that makes it more of shame that it sold poorly.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: EasyCure on January 27, 2010, 09:24:43 PM
i still plan on buying it, does that count?
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 27, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
Grand Theft Auto is like Real-Time Strategy: I've bought quite a few of them despite not really playing them much and not really liking what I have played.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Mop it up on January 27, 2010, 11:01:42 PM
I wouldn't count on this ever happening.
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"As for the prospect of a GTA Wii game, Sam Houser reportedly told Nintendo Power that the series wasn't a good fit on Nintendo's uber-popular console. "It didn't feel natural to us, I guess," he said, according to an advanced copy obtained by fan site Nintendo Everything...
...So will there ever be a Wii GTA? Houser wouldn't rule out the possibility, saying, "We haven't really done any concrete, major thinking about the Wii, one way or another."
I don't think this is a case of mature gamers or the size of the userbase or any of the usual excuses that we hear. They've shown they haven't ignored the Wii because there's already Bully, Table Tennis and Manhunt out for it. The Wii may be the best-selling console and I'm sure there's pressure on Rockstar to make a GTA game for the Wii, but they probably can't think of something which would fit.
You kind of have to respect that, I should think. Rockstar could put out some piece of GTA garbage that would probably sell a million, so it's nice to see a developer consider what they want to make as opposed to what would make them lots of cash.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 27, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
Sounds like another ass that Reggie couldn't kick and a name he was too scared to take too.
Take Two Reggie. Take Two.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 28, 2010, 12:03:57 AM
Take Two's going to crumble financially.
And as for GTA, all Rockstar has to do is come up with some new ridiculous story and shove it into Wii (like the good ol' PS2 LIMITED-TECH DAYS) and shove in Wii controls. They're a 3rd party, what's with all this "major thinking" nonsense?
What we're seeing is laziness or a resource inability to commit to a new "GTA brand" project.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 28, 2010, 05:11:06 AM
Turd parties should go play in traffic and leave the "major thinking" to the big boys.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: D_Average on January 29, 2010, 12:47:34 PM
Rockstar isn't stupid. The DS is the best selling handheld, yet the owners didn't buy Chinatown Wars despite raving reviews. Why would they repeat history on the Wii? It makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with laziness and everything to do with competence and general common sense. The market just isn't there.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Stratos on January 29, 2010, 12:54:43 PM
Chinatown Wars is reportedly approaching the million sales mark so it does appear to be a slow burner.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 29, 2010, 01:28:04 PM
Chinatown Wars was definitely not a console-style 3D Zelda-derivative sandbox game (on a person's primary cutting-edge game system). The difference in presentation also affects how it's marketed (remember the Vice City and San Andreas commercials? not going to get those same results from this version of GTA). Console GTA buyers take a glance at it and they're not jumping on it cuz it's instantly does not look like the GTA they're accustomed to, no matter what critics say.
Therefore you can't use the performance of the DS version to gage a Wii version unless the Wii version is expected to make a similar awkward change from the modern GTA norm.
All the other rules about 3rd party effort apply: "how do they know if they haven't really tried with the same resources and enthusiasm they treated ____ games for ____ consoles?"
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 29, 2010, 02:36:59 PM
I bought and played Chinatown wars on the DS and I loved it. One reason why it might not have done so well is that it looked and played a bit different than the typical console GTA games. This wouldn't be an issue with the Wii because the Wii is stronger than a PS2 and GTA games on the PS2 have done quite well.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: D_Average on January 29, 2010, 02:40:50 PM
Wow. So many rules about what a devolper can and can't do to have somthing sell on the Wii. Why so complicated? Can't they just make good games? Apparently not. If only Rockstar would visit these boards. We cleary could have informed them Chinatown Wars was a bad idea. How lazy and arrogant of them to assume we would just buy it because it's a great game. It's not the right kind of great game!
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 29, 2010, 03:06:41 PM
That's exactly it. The buck doesn't stop at making a great game. It's up to them to make a great game that people care about, and to be the spearhead for informing people about it.
It's complicated cuz it's certainly NOT as simple as dumping retarded games and strange spinoffs onto an allegedly casual audience and expecting sales to keep up thru the same strategy 3 years running, as Take Two's publishing peers have been happily exercising.
Glad you made this realization. If you used the good part of your head more often these wouldn't be surprises.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 29, 2010, 03:40:48 PM
Why can't Rockstar port over the older GTA games to the Wii? They've done this with Bully already, and that worked out for them, didn't it?
I can understand concerns about profits, but porting a game requires very minimal resources. Hell, they don't even necessarily have to add new motion controls for it if they don't want to. But they should make it happen because it will sell and it won't cost much for them to do it.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Ian Sane on January 29, 2010, 07:17:46 PM
I've always wondered if Chinatown Wars didn't do as well due to it's association with that infamous Wii Music focused E3. We were all "Hey Nintendo! Where the **** are the games?" and they were all "Uhhhh, we got GTA?" And we were all "what this DS game where all you have is a fucking logo? **** YOU!" And then Miyamoto made up some bullshit about Pikmin to try to calm us down. :) Makes you wonder if Chinatown Wars' unfortunate first impression turned off some of the target market.
Or more likely it's simpy the fact that in screenshots Chinatown Wars looks like the old style topdown GTA. I always figured it was until someone pointed out it wasn't. So I didn't care since like most of the world I have no attachment to oldschool GTA. The series became big with the third game.
I also tend to associate portable versions of non-Japanese franchises with garbage. When EA and Ubisoft make absolute junk with the portable versions of their console games why would you assume Rockstar would be the exception? Chinatown Wars had an uphill battle from day one and Rockstar did little to help it with that.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 29, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
To be fair, EA and Ubisoft's efforts on the consoles (at least the Wii, anyway) are also complete and utter garbage. So to say their portable efforts are garbage isn't really saying alot. Have you seen the wall of shame thread? Those were all Wii console games of "Surfing Petz" and "Cooking Sports" type crap.
These same companies also tend to treat the DS as the same sort of landfill that they do with the Wii, but not all companies are like that. Rockstar has made very little on any Nintendo platforms, but AFAIK what they have made on Nintendo platforms has been of acceptable quality.
And I think that's why GTA Chinatown is proving to have such long legs. A lot of people were probably thinking the same way you are that since it is on a handheld it was going to be a piece of ****, but word of mouth tells a different story.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Mop it up on January 29, 2010, 08:02:51 PM
There's also that some games just play better on a home system than a portable. Grand Theft Auto seems like one such game.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Kytim89 on January 29, 2010, 10:59:14 PM
Why can't Rockstar port over the older GTA games to the Wii? They've done this with Bully already, and that worked out for them, didn't it?
I can understand concerns about profits, but porting a game requires very minimal resources. Hell, they don't even necessarily have to add new motion controls for it if they don't want to. But they should make it happen because it will sell and it won't cost much for them to do it.
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I want something new set in the GTA 4 generation of the series. Should the game take place in Liberty City, or some where else?
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Kytim89 on January 29, 2010, 11:00:21 PM
Why can't Rockstar port over the older GTA games to the Wii? They've done this with Bully already, and that worked out for them, didn't it?
I can understand concerns about profits, but porting a game requires very minimal resources. Hell, they don't even necessarily have to add new motion controls for it if they don't want to. But they should make it happen because it will sell and it won't cost much for them to do it.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: ThePerm on January 29, 2010, 11:34:19 PM
half of sales is name recognition and marketing
GTA is a series that would sell well on Wii. The Resident Evil games sell well on Wii (even crap ones) simply because they have Resident Evil in their title(although the second gun game was FAIL..fool me once), so GTA being an M rated title has no effect on sales.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Deguello on February 02, 2010, 12:26:51 AM
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Can't they just make good games?
Too bad most of the time they don't and make shovelware. Not Nintendo's or our fault they dragged their own names through the mud.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Kytim89 on February 02, 2010, 11:41:49 PM
GTA wii should take place in a rendition of Chicago and be set in the GTA 4 generation. New characters would be introduced along with a good story.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Kytim89 on February 04, 2010, 12:51:33 AM
After play No More Heroes 2, I am confident that GTA wii would be an absolute power house. If Rockstar used the same graphics engine, mainly for characters, that game would be awesome. Splice in some Reident evil 4 wii controls, a good, compelling story, amd a giant over world. Hell, I would buy the game on day one.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: D_Average on February 06, 2010, 02:44:55 PM
GTA wii should take place in a rendition of Chicago and be set in the GTA 4 generation. New characters would be introduced along with a good story.
I'd love to see a Chicago GTA. Especially if they set it in the 70's or 80's when the mob was strong. Modern day could be cool too. As long as Ditka makes a cameo.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 06, 2010, 06:15:51 PM
GTA wii should take place in a rendition of Chicago and be set in the GTA 4 generation. New characters would be introduced along with a good story.
20s and 30s would have been a better time for Chicago, I think.
I'd love to see a Chicago GTA. Especially if they set it in the 70's or 80's when the mob was strong. Modern day could be cool too. As long as Ditka makes a cameo.
Title: Re: Grannd Theft Auto wii
Post by: D_Average on February 07, 2010, 12:56:30 PM
GTA wii should take place in a rendition of Chicago and be set in the GTA 4 generation. New characters would be introduced along with a good story.
20s and 30s would have been a better time for Chicago, I think.
I'd love to see a Chicago GTA. Especially if they set it in the 70's or 80's when the mob was strong. Modern day could be cool too. As long as Ditka makes a cameo.
Yeah, a GTA Chicago game centered around the prohibition with Al Capone would definitely be interesting.
