Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: AV on July 18, 2009, 12:03:27 AM
Title: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: AV on July 18, 2009, 12:03:27 AM
With Wii Sports Resort having a mode that is very similar to Wave Race, do you actually want Nintendo to make a version of that franchise for the Wii ??
My vision for Wave Race Wii:
8 playeer online mode with wiispeak , 2 player split-screen including competing vs online , Mii integration, dozens of levels, and uses forecast channel for weather conditions. Just for casual gamers it will have 'casual gamer' difficulty setting right off the bat or ' hardcore gamer' difficulty to pick from, ability to use gamecube, or classic controller, or Wii motion plus wii sports resort controls.
I totally buy that.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 18, 2009, 12:08:03 AM
I woudn't like to see a motion plus required wave race, but I'm afraid that franchise may be done unless they do a new play control one.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 18, 2009, 12:45:37 AM
I would buy it even if it used the GameCube/N64 controls, with no Wii-esque options. WaveRace 64 was my favorite N64 game, period. I think the GameCube game (even though it's really just a port) is easily in the top five for that system as well.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Mop it up on July 18, 2009, 01:57:51 AM
I was never really a fan of Wave Race, I just found it to be boring. It seems to me like both games existed to showcase the graphics of their respective systems, and so that would be kind of pointless for Wii.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 18, 2009, 05:47:14 AM
I love love love the GameCube game.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 18, 2009, 09:21:52 AM
I loved the Nintendo 64 game. The Gamecube game was too difficult and really took the fun out of the game. I think the next Wave Race should have a good mix of traditional races, but then some more abstract races. Like I would love a race down a river with no laps.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 18, 2009, 03:51:19 PM
Too difficult? That's why you start on easy and work your way up. Challenging, or even balanced, would be a better word.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Stratos on July 18, 2009, 04:13:01 PM
It seems to me like both games existed to showcase the graphics of their respective systems, and so that would be kind of pointless for Wii.
Why? The Wii is stronger than the GC. Plus we need another showcase title like Galaxy, Prime Conduit to show people what the system is capable of.
I wouldn't want it to have GC/CC controls. It needs to be with the Wiimote/Nunchuck and/or M+. If it can't be done with those they might as well not make one.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 18, 2009, 10:34:42 PM
But it's an arcade style jetski racing/stunt game? Save WM+ for simulations. I guess it works for ExciteTruck/Bots, so maybe it could work for WaveRace too, but they'd have to be very exaggerated controls, which would almost make it "waggle for the sake of being waggle".
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Stratos on July 18, 2009, 10:41:51 PM
I'm not saying it has to use the M+ exclusively or even at all. They could have a Wiimote only mode and an M+ required more. I just don't think it should have a GC/CC setup. That path has already been done. I'd want it for the motion controls. If I want GC/CC controls I'll play Wave Race 64 or pick up the GC one for cheap.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: King of Twitch on July 18, 2009, 10:58:24 PM
How could you even ask such a question. It's like asking if more cowbell is apropos.
But the motion controls need to correspond, 1:1 to the rider's legs.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Enner on July 18, 2009, 11:56:34 PM
I think the next Wave Race would do well by adding other water vehicles. I would really like to race a jet ski against a power boat.
And they could it Wave Race: Aqua Thunder.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Stratos on July 19, 2009, 12:01:13 AM
Loved the 64 version the most. A new version would need online races to catch me in the net..
Forget jet skis, I loved how you could ride a dolphin in the N64 version.
ExciteDolphin FTW!!!
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: BwrJim! on July 19, 2009, 11:30:04 PM
8P
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Ian Sane on July 21, 2009, 06:16:55 PM
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I wouldn't want it to have GC/CC controls. It needs to be with the Wiimote/Nunchuck and/or M+. If it can't be done with those they might as well not make one.
It would be cool if they could make something where there is not only no option to use regular controls but I don't even WANT the option. Nintendo has, well, largely failed at this. Most of the time I find the motion controls to be this frustrating novelty I have to put up with. If the option for normal controls is available I always pick it because it is always superior. When the option isn't there I think "dammit, I wish it had this option." No good. I didn't think "boy I wish I could use the d-pad" when I played N64 games. It's got to feel essential. When tackling any of their franchises that don't have that "you MUST make one" level of demand like Mario and Zelda have, they should strive for this and if in the planning stages it's clear they can't achieve it they should move to something else.
If they do make a new Wave Race though I would like all new courses this time. The Cube one was the first one I played so I actually don't know about this until it was pointed out to me. I would be quite turned off if that trend continued.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 21, 2009, 06:22:32 PM
How many games do you have for the Wii again.You are severly limiting yourself with the games that you have.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 21, 2009, 06:28:42 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: King of Twitch on July 21, 2009, 06:38:42 PM
Preemptively bashing a nonexistent game's controls, levels, and essesntialness saves time for bashing other unplayed games later on.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Stratos on July 21, 2009, 06:56:06 PM
I'm assuming Ian was referring to the first one.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: JRNN on July 21, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
Controls could be like MKWii Acceleration, Stop, Control stick / Wii Wheel and Speed boost (If i remember correctly there was a speed boost in the old games)
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Mop it up on July 21, 2009, 07:10:34 PM
I didn't think "boy I wish I could use the d-pad" when I played N64 games.
I actually thought that about some of them. Yoshi's Story comes to mind. An analogue stick isn't well-suited for 2D platformers.
The sad thing was that there was an easily accessible D-Pad right on the controller. Nobody used it, though.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Mop it up on July 21, 2009, 07:19:44 PM
Some games had the option for both actually. ExciteBike 64 and Doom 64 come to mind, and in both cases I chose the d-pad over the analogue stick. Most puzzle games used the d-pad and didn't even have an option for the analogue stick. All of the wrestling games used it too.
There are some types of games which don't work well with an analogue stick, just as there are some games which don't work with motion controls.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: AV on July 21, 2009, 08:14:36 PM
Controls could be like MKWii Acceleration, Stop, Control stick / Wii Wheel and Speed boost (If i remember correctly there was a speed boost in the old games)
thats good for land, but water you go up and down really quickly it might not be quick enough. either that or the water will be tame and boring
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: JRNN on July 21, 2009, 09:02:26 PM
Controls could be like MKWii Acceleration, Stop, Control stick / Wii Wheel and Speed boost (If i remember correctly there was a speed boost in the old games)
thats good for land, but water you go up and down really quickly it might not be quick enough. either that or the water will be tame and boring
Youre right the ground and water element didnt come to mind, Remote/Nunchuck good enough imo
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Stogi on July 21, 2009, 09:10:02 PM
Whatever control scheme they use, it's needs the ability to tilt and "land" on a wave.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: D_Average on July 22, 2009, 01:20:05 AM
Anyone who doesn't like Wave Race hates fun.
P.S. Wave Race Wii MUST have classic control as an option.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Stratos on July 22, 2009, 04:57:43 AM
P.S. Wave Race Wii MUST have classic control as an option.
Why? What if they pulled off the perfect motion controls that were perfectly responsive, innovative and immersive?
I say include both. I'm all for a new experience, but I'm also for kicking back and twiddling my thumbs.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 22, 2009, 12:43:40 PM
Then get a PSP.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: Ian Sane on July 22, 2009, 12:44:09 PM
Including both options seems like a good thing in theory but I think for TRUE motion control and not just lame ass wiggle waggle it needs to be so integrated and so precise that you CAN'T offer another option. Like it just won't easily transfer. The Wii games that provide both options have really LOUSY motion control where they're just mapping button pushes to gestures. That's why they can provide both because you just make it so instead of "waggle left" you push A.
There were N64 games that used the d-pad and provided both options. And in cases were both options were there I would use the d-pad since usually in those situations digital controls were more precise.
But I didn't want a d-pad when playing Super Mario 64, Zelda, F-Zero X, Goldeneye or Banjo-Kazooie. These were flagship titles and they just used the analog stick so perfectly you didn't want a d-pad for them. They wouldn't even work because it wasn't just like you just add a run button to digital controls. Remove the analog stick and you get shitty controls like in Super Mario 64 DS.
Providing the option is saying "in this game motion control is a gimmick". Now if they can provide the option I want it, better than forcing me to fight with motion controls. But it shouldn't be like that. When I play Wii Sports I never think "boy I wish I could just use a button to do this" because it doesn't make sense. The game and the controls are so tightly connected you can't imagine it working any other way.
The previous Wave Race games didn't just use the analog stick to replace a "fast" button on the d-pad controller. They needed it. Wave Race for the Wii should need motion control in the same way.
Title: Re: Wave Race Wii ...
Post by: D_Average on July 22, 2009, 07:25:11 PM
