There are about 100 words I could use to describe how I feel. Too bad all of them will be hit by the forum's filter.

It's like reliving Nintendo 64

Ladies and gentlemen: let the angst begin!

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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A fate worse than death.

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N64: If it's not made by Nintendo or a 2nd party it's almost always shovelware. All 11 non-Nintedo games.

If it is made by Nintendo never trust the third published release date.

I'm going to laugh my butt off if the fanboys that are angsty right now snatch up a copy the minute is released.



It happened A LOT during the N64 days. Everyone kept saying that Nintendo was being a fool for delaying games. Then the game is released, a million copies sold in a month.



Nintendo doesn't give a sh*t about angry fanboys since they are likely to bite their tongues, buy the game and enjoy it.



Really, Crimm, relax. Don't take it personally.



Its just a game. I'm sure there's far more important things to worry about...

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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A fate worse than death.

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What are you talking about? I'm ecstatic! It's...it's so... I have this warm and fuzzy feeling inside of me... so familiar... a delay. *smiles widely*







I'm a Nintendo fan. This is how they tell me they love me!

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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A fate worse than death.

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What are you talking about? I'm ecstatic! It's...it's so... I have this warm and fuzzy feeling inside of me... so familiar... a delay. *smiles widely*



I'm a Nintendo fan. This is how they tell me they love me!

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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A fate worse than death.

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What are you talking about? I'm ecstatic! It's...it's so... I have this warm and fuzzy feeling inside of me... so familiar... a delay. *smiles widely*



I'm a Nintendo fan. This is how they tell me they love me!

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Yeah by delaying a game for no reason is SOOOO like the N64 days. At least during the N64 period those delays were actually to polish and finish the game, this delay is a stupid marketing tactic that makes me think of Sony and not Nintendo.

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This doesn't change the important question: How screwed up are things when they have to drop delay after delay. They're not even HUGE jumps from previous delays. Shouldn't they just save themselves the trouble and go for a longer delay?

All I see is "One week delay for Japan" meaning the game is DONE by then, but a "ONE MONTH" delay for NA, something is not right there especially since both versions have been in development simultaneously. So my guess is one of two things:



1. It is a marketing related delay (most likely)

2. It is a removal delay, where they decided to cut certain things out of the game



Either way it is terrible. Though I will say I don't hold any of this against Sakurai, in fact I would be willing to bet that NOA is behind it.

Both versions have been in development simultaneously? Where did you pull that crap from? If that's the case why haven't they even started making the PAL version? Games almost always come out in Japan first.

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Yeah by delaying a game for no reason is SOOOO like the N64 days.

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Geez you people. Sakurai said the game needs a delay. And if he says so, then it is so. What is it that Miyamoto says? A good game can be delayed once, (or three time or whatever), but a bad game is bad forever?

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
All I see is "One week delay for Japan" meaning the game is DONE by then, but a "ONE MONTH" delay for NA, something is not right there especially since both versions have been in development simultaneously. So my guess is one of two things:



1. It is a marketing related delay (most likely)



2. It is a removal delay, where they decided to cut certain things out of the game



Either way it is terrible. Though I will say I don't hold any of this against Sakurai, in fact I would be willing to bet that NOA is behind it.

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Both versions have been in development simultaneously? Where did you pull that crap from? If that's the case why haven't they even started making the PAL version? Games almost always come out in Japan first.

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Yeah by delaying a game for no reason is SOOOO like the N64 days.

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They did give a reason.

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All I see is "One week delay for Japan" meaning the game is DONE by then, but a "ONE MONTH" delay for NA, something is not right there especially since both versions have been in development simultaneously. So my guess is one of two things:







1. It is a marketing related delay (most likely)







2. It is a removal delay, where they decided to cut certain things out of the game







Either way it is terrible. Though I will say I don't hold any of this against Sakurai, in fact I would be willing to bet that NOA is behind it.

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You say that as if the US always got the games first and Japan second. Now you understand how some Japanese Zelda fans felt when they saw that the US was getting Twilight Princess as a launch title while they had to wait a month to get it. Both games were being developed at the same time, yet the US got it first.







Once again, we can't say for sure WHY the delay happened. So it isn't really fair to claim the delay happened because of marketing reasons since we don't know why.

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And why do you take it so personally? Did NOA kill your family because the game was delay? Is Nintendo your bitter enemy or something?



Delays suck, no matter the reason, but it ain't nothing to be severely upset about.

F***, F***, F***. I want the damn game already. The only reason i'm not more pissed off is that this makes sure I have enough money for the game. But 2 official delays (December 2, 2006 - February 2007 and not this) and 1 unofficial delay (Iwata saying he hoped it would be ready for the Wii launch, but never said it actually would be) is very frustrating. This better be even better than I hoped.

I've seen several sites with a UK launch date of late march. Could it be they pushed it to... GULP.... bring it closer in line with us?

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But the game will be done by the end of January (Heck wasn't it confirmed it went gold weeks ago?), but for some reason instead of a week delay on the NA side there is a 1 month delay. It doesn't add up.

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booo!!! BOOOOO!!! nintendo sucks, reggie sucks!! F those corporate pigs for delaying the game! i know there's some sort of conspiracy behind it, i know it.. something just doesnt add up.. but i'll find it out! and by the time i do the game will be released... and i'll still by it despite these angry feelings i have now.. i'll forget about my grudge against NOA, in fact i wont even remember complaining about the delay because i'll be enthralled in such wonderful gameplay and having fun taking on my friends in matches at home AND online. but alteast i'll find out the conspiracy behind delaying what will no-doubt become 2008's game of the year and probably be regardes as the best wii game EVAR!.



seriously, chillax! the news coulda been much worse. imagine the front page of the Dojo reading "We apologize but our team has switched focus to a more casual gameplay and we will be delaying Brawl to bring you and your family something you can enjoy together!"



i could see you all getting worked up for something like that! but a measely delay? please every nintendo fan should be used to it, even if you jumped on the bandwagon during the GC era. Someone else made a good point before, there will be other game to play like No More Heroes. Suppose Nintendo delayed Brawls release to give No More Heroes a shot at actually selling? Would you blame them? I wouldnt.



i was begining to worry NMH would under perform due to co-releasing in Feb with Brawl, i feared it would of became a sleeper hit that would show other developers that good original (also "traditional") games really cant sell on the Wii. If nintendo gives them a month lead, so be it, its not going to take any sales AWAY from brawl. It would be a different story the other way around though..

I'm with Pap, it's going to be okay.

Alright yes, booooo- but I also feel that most can agree that Nintendo's got a slew of games that are coming out that we wouldn't get to play if Smash came out on time. I'll be playing No More Heroes, Ninja Gaiden and Dragon Quest Swords in the meantime.

Why are people replying *after* me, but it's appearing in the thread before me?



I'm scared...

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That is weird. I thought my post was time-traveling.

yes i would have to agree that this is VERY annoying. But I suppose I cant be too angry because the game will be better off that way. Its like your running a 10 mile race. Youre only 10 seconds away from the finish line and BAM! they tell you to keep going cuz they pulled the finish line another 5 miles.

A delay always makes games better except the rare case of TP :P, I'm actually a little happy, the more content the better.

lol



Remember when this was gonna be a launch title?

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Finally I login! Anyways, don't really care for the delay. This is Nintendo we are talking about and of course delay is part of their association. Even though I am disappointed on the delay, but it is coming for a good cause! Hell, if a game goes gold and continues to polish then by all means, go for it! Metal Gear Solid 4 is going for the approach so I say continue! All I have to wait is a bit over a week for getting the Japanese version and I am so glad that I got myself a Japanese Wii!

I just can't see how a one-week delay in Japan when the game is already being printed translates to a one-month delay in North America.



Maybe they delayed the Japanese version to make others feel better about their own delays? It doesn't make sense, since every thing we've seen in the dojo is in English, I don't see how the game isn't being translated simultaneously. I honestly want a real explanation from Nintendo PR from this, not just "The game is taking longer than we expected, even though a week ago we said we were done." Are they adding US only content, like the song about Ashley? Did they decide at the last minute to put all the stuff taken out of the Japanese game back in, like the Japanese version of the song about Ashley?



If they need more time for that, or if they need more time to translate things, or to actually work on the game, that's fine. I don't care, the games will be done when it's done. However, I also believe it was delayed because someone at NOA said, "Mario Kart isn't going to be ready by May, we're waiting until November for Wii Fit, so let's space out our games better. Besides, we'll have more Wiis out there by then, anyways." And with about ten million Wiis around NA right now, that's just unnecessary, I think.

now after this we diserve voice chat over IP in the final version



So now it's a question of what will come first.......Wii's staying on store shelves or Smash bros. release

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now after this we diserve voice chat over IP in the final version







So now it's a question of what will come first.......Wii's staying on store shelves or Smash bros. release

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And Europe is getting it when? No, it's not late March whoever suggested that, we haven't even got a f***ing date to get pushed back. If Super Paper Mario is anything to go by, we won't be seeing it until September. I suspect it will be around May, April if we're lucky. And you guys are complaining about March?!

I'm just wondering why someone from Europe would have a Mr. Saturn avatar. You haven't been illegally pirating games, have you?

j/k, It's a good game and I can't fault you for that, honestly.



However, I'm thinking about trying to get a genuine answer here, but the only thing I can thing of is to do a mass email or mass phone call to Nintendo.

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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A fate worse than death.

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What are you talking about? I'm ecstatic! It's...it's so... I have this warm and fuzzy feeling inside of me... so familiar... a delay. *smiles widely*







I'm a Nintendo fan. This is how they tell me they love me!

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Well it looks like it's time to buy a Japanese Wii. Unless we're getting exclusive content then this is total BS. Oh and if NOA dare removes content like those Japanese Pikmin songs then this is the ultimate finger they could give their fans. If the North American version of the game has LESS content then the Japanese version then we should be getting the damn thing first. There's no excuse, not one damn excuse we should have to wait an extra month for an inferior version of the game if Japan is getting the superior version in 2 weeks.



So the English version better have more content or at least the same amount of content as the Japanese version. Because if there's even one thing removed, even if it's just a sticker of some obscure Japanese only character nobody even nows about, that's still unexceptable, PERIOD

Some of you guys are wimps! The game will be here, don't worry so much. 1 week after its released we will have no knowledge of this delay. All of you will be playing this game for years to come, I imagine almost a decade. This extra 3 weeks or so for us US guys wont even put a dent in that play time.

The easiest explanation is Nintendo needed a week more of production capacity to fill the disc orders in Japan and since production for NOE and NOA will probably come from the same plants but start later due to the later date a Delay was needed to fill those orders as well. Plus the fine tuning of the translation and giving a little room for a last minute bugs fix from the bugs found through the Japanese playing community.

my boyfriend beats me because he loves me

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The easiest explanation is Nintendo needed a week more of production capacity to fill the disc orders in Japan and since production for NOE and NOA will probably come from the same plants but start later due to the later date a Delay was needed to fill those orders as well. Plus the fine tuning of the translation and giving a little room for a last minute bugs fix from the bugs found through the Japanese playing community.

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The easiest explanation is Nintendo needed a week more of production capacity to fill the disc orders in Japan and since production for NOE and NOA will probably come from the same plants but start later due to the later date a Delay was needed to fill those orders as well. Plus the fine tuning of the translation and giving a little room for a last minute bugs fix from the bugs found through the Japanese playing community.

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You know, if that's it, that's fine, except for one thing: We were told development issues. If they want to delay the game to have more time to print it, they should say "We need more time to print the game." Oh, and the Japanese version is not a testing tool for the North American version.

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"I'm going to laugh my butt off if the fanboys that are angsty right now snatch up a copy the minute is released."



Why wouldn't they? I mean the whole reason to be upset is because we have to wait longer. So I would assume everyone would get this game on day one just like they would have even if it wasn't delayed because when you really want a game it's logical to get it the second it's available.



I don't get how this is a good marketing campaign. Anyone who actually would know that game is being delayed would be a hardcore fan who would buy it on day one ANYWAY. N64 games weren't million sellers because of delays. It was because the userbase was so f*cking starved for games that if anything decent came out they grabbed it because nothing else would show up for months.



The fact that there is any comparison between the Wii and N64 is a bad sign. The N64 initially was the market leader thanks to Super Mario 64 being such a major killer app and Nintendo still being established as the market leader at launch because of the SNES. While the Wii obviously isn't riding its predecessor's coattails it, like the N64, has a major killer app that everyone has gone ga-ga over. But the game lineup is weak and sparse except for some big first party titles like the N64's. Now the Wii has non-gamers and it has sold better than any console I've ever seen. Shortages still a year after launch? That's nuts. But one thing that limited the N64's third party support was the cartridges. Well hardware is a limitation for the Wii, too. There's a reason that despite the Wii being the market leader so many third party games are made for the X360 and PS3 but NOT the Wii. It's because the hardware is too different to make a proper port. That's why we get so many PS2 ports because the Wii has more in common with last gen hardware.



Eventually this all caught up with the N64. The weak library turned people away even if it was technically the market leader for a little while. Is this going to happen to the Wii? Is the X360 the Playstation ready to gobble up all the deserters by merely being competent while the PS3 is the Saturn, the failing console made by the established powerhouse that still gets third party support, despite not selling worth a crap, merely because it has similar hardware to the console third parties favour?



While I don't expect Nintendo to ever stop delaying games why is this sort of thing still newsworthy on a market leading console? We're supposed to have this big insane amount of third party games, both awesome and sh!tty, to eat up our time. We're supposed to have so many games that someone of any taste can always find something to spend time playing. We're supposed to have to pick and choose which MAJOR titles to skip because we can't afford to play them all. Yet here we are upset about one game being delayed for only a month. Did that EVER happen to PS2 fans? Why should I be happy for Nintendo if the Wii's success has still just resulted in the same routine that I got fed up with YEARS ago?

I am cry... again...

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Remember when this was gonna be a launch title?

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While I don't expect Nintendo to ever stop delaying games why is this sort of thing still newsworthy on a market leading console? We're supposed to have this big insane amount of third party games, both awesome and sh!tty, to eat up our time. We're supposed to have so many games that someone of any taste can always find something to spend time playing. We're supposed to have to pick and choose which MAJOR titles to skip because we can't afford to play them all. Yet here we are upset about one game being delayed for only a month.

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My suggestion to Nintendo: if you don't know when the game is going to be ready, please do not attach a release date to the game.

Anounce the game, have the daily updates, but oh is it so hard to think "hmm, maybe we shouldn't put a release date until it goes gold because the world will be angry at us".

Now, I have to play other games until March 9. Is that what you really want, Nintendo? You don't want me playing Smash Bros before March 9. U SUCK!

I think Nintendo's biggest mistake was hyping Brawl to days on end. Metroid Prime 3 and Galaxy were both delayed, yet I don't recall people going INSANE over them. Yet, Brawl is delayed and people are threatening to kill Sakurai.



Had they played the hype down people wouldn't be this upset now.

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"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever, and the laughs we get from suffering fans are priceless!"

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Well it looks like it's time to buy a Japanese Wii. Unless we're getting exclusive content then this is total BS. Oh and if NOA dare removes content like those Japanese Pikmin songs then this is the ultimate finger they could give their fans. If the North American version of the game has LESS content then the Japanese version then we should be getting the damn thing first. There's no excuse, not one damn excuse we should have to wait an extra month for an inferior version of the game if Japan is getting the superior version in 2 weeks.



So the English version better have more content or at least the same amount of content as the Japanese version. Because if there's even one thing removed, even if it's just a sticker of some obscure Japanese only character nobody even nows about, that's still unexceptable, PERIOD

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"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever, and the laughs we get from suffering fans are priceless!"

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"Hell, when Twilight Princess got delayed multiple times the amount of rage wasn't THIS big. In fact, most fans were happy that it got moved to the Wii!"



I recall it being a pretty hot topic at the time. It was debated for months. This seems pretty small. It's really just "f*ck, they delayed Brawl". TP's delay or the Wii's name were topics that split the forum into seperate sides of debates.



"Mark my words: Brawl will be the Wii game with the most cultural impact in the gaming community."



The ironic thing is that SSB is by its nature designed for hardcore Nintendo fans. While it might become a Halo killer, much of the charm of it would actually go over the heads of most of the audience.

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1 week after its released we will have no knowledge of this delay.

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It's like reliving Nintendo 64

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Metroid Prime 3 and Galaxy were both delayed

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If Super Paper Mario is anything to go by, we won't be seeing it until September

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N64 games weren't million sellers because of delays. It was because the userbase was so f*cking starved for games that if anything decent came out they grabbed it because nothing else would show up for months

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TP's delay or the Wii's name were topics that split the forum into seperate sides of debates.

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I wonder how many of you crybabies would off yourself if it was delayed another month? Over-react much?

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f your parents told you you weren't having dinner until next week would you feel loved? Then next week at dinner time they told you it wouldn't be ready for another year, THEN would you feel loved? Then when it FINALLY came time to eat dinner, they said dinner won't be served for another month...??? I would say your parents just like to torture you

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I wonder how many of you crybabies would off yourself if it was delayed another month? Over-react much?

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To make things right, Mario Kart will launch in Europe first, then US then Japan.

bah, theyre only delaying smash to add voice chat (;

I'm agree with Miyamoto says that a good game need to be delayed, but the bad game is bad forever, but my angry is because they give a date, then, when is approaching, delay it again, oh, come on, how they want that we don't angry?



And as someone said, I think that the delay in NA for a month, is a marketing problem principally, the difference between a week in Japan and a month here is abysmal.

I've heard rumblings that there's going to be a shortage of copis for Japan, so maybe the delay IS to print more copies for the U.S. market?

This all seems really dumb tho.



"Hey, let's see what happens if we take too long to make the game, and then press small number of copies!"

I haven't seen this much incompetence since the Gamecube era.