Topic: Nintendo 3DS Discussion

[NWR_insanolord]

I think on the 3DS Wi-Fi will be on a lot more regularly. The friends list and the light indicating when people are online would require a persistent Wi-Fi connection.

[the_dan_x]

I think on the 3DS Wi-Fi will be on a lot more regularly. The friends list and the light indicating when people are online would require a persistent Wi-Fi connection.

It is. Pretty much as soon as I get back to my apartment and open up my 3DS, I am connected to Wi-Fi. Like you said, it's basically like that so you can show your friends that you are online as opposed to having to connect manually. If I had any friends with a 3DS, I could explore the whole friend list thing more extensively. Matt Walker, the other NWR Japan Correspondent who got a 3DS at launch, doesn't have wi-fi readily available at his place, so I can't test stuff out with him. 

[BlackNMild2k1]

  "I always feel like somebodies watching me"

3DS is keeping track of the flash carts you put into the system? That's what Kotaku is reporting, so if you have that specific brand of Flashcard tah taallows you to pirate some DS games.... I'd be careful if I were you. I would just play my DS games in my DS if that were the case because when that first big update comes around (assuming this is true) Nintendo just might brick your 3DS.

Back in July 2010, THQ's Ian Curran said, "What excites me even more [than 3DS games] is that there's technology built in that device to really combat piracy...I actually asked Nintendo to explain the technology and they said it's very difficult to do so because it's so sophisticated."

Fast-forward to 2011. Japanese game retailer Enterking issued a notice that it would not be buying back any 3DS units that were used with a R4-type devices - specifically "illegal or unauthorized devices". The notice states that there seems to be a record of such use left on the system. This would be in line with the rumors that the 3DS keeps a log of flash cart use, which then can be checked.

The Nintendo terms of agreement clearly state that it is possible that the 3DS might not be able to boot up after firmware updates if unapproved or illegal devices are used in the 3DS. You have been warned!

http://kotaku.com/#!5779454/nintendo-is-so-not-screwing-around-with-3ds-piracy

"Who's that peepin' through window.... POW!! Nobody now."

[Razorkid]

Lol, I miss the Goodie Mob  .


Well, since I'm not a pirate or use R4 carts, I'm all for this.  The more discouragement of piracy without hindering my own fun, the better.

[MegaByte]

But what happens if somebody sells you a pirate cart without you realizing it, and you play it? And then Nintendo bricks your system? If they go that route, things will not end well.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Buy NEW from legit retailers.

No more "used" game sales without risk of obtaining a pirated copy.
Save a few bucks buying used, take risk of bricked system or Spend a few extra buying new and not worry at all?

[Stogi]

Well this is only if you connect to the internet of course. So pirates will likely not give two shits about it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Automatic Updates could also work through multiplayer too, so they might have to never connect to an updated 3DS to ensure they never unknowingly receive a FW update.

[Stogi]

Maybe I read it wrong but I don't think it's the firmware that bricks your system. It's the information being dug up by the firmware and sent to Nintendo and then Nintendo shutting it down remotely.

If it really is simply sticking in a homebrew game and the system shuts down, then that's ridiculous and damn near evil.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I don't know how Nintendo's Automatic updates work, but they talked about daisy chaining connections through 3DS's. So if they can update your FW through a daisy chained wifi connection while you are playing some local multi-player, then that FW update could recognize that you have been playing illegally obtained and unapproved software according to your flash cart log and then Nintendo could send the signal to shut your system down and you wouldn't have even realized you were connected to the internet.

I don't know how plausible that scenario is or if it's even possible at all, but that's what comes to mind when I think about it.

[Stogi]

What do you mean by Daisy chained? Using another 3DS as a hotspot, or local wifi?

If it is local wifi with no internet involved, I don't think Nintendo could send the bricking code. And having another 3DS brick your system is even more evil than having the firmware do it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

By daisy chaining I mean that one 3DS connects online and downloads a FW update, that 3DS connects to another 3DS as 2 people are sitting next to each other on the bus and updates the other 3DS to the latest FW, who then passes that new FW on to the next and so on and so forth like spreading a Flu virus.

It could get dangerous if the 3DS was ever hacked, but I'm sure there are many security checks a 3DS would do before installing a Daisy Chained FW.

[Stogi]

Wait Nintendo is allowing that to be possible? For real?

That doesn't sound like Nintendo at all.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I remember hearing about daisy chaining info from one 3DS to another.

Someone made a joke about a game called Virus where you have to "infect" as many 3DS's with your game code as possible. Then when you log-in on line, you can see how far your virus has spread by all the contacts the other 3DS's have had since you came in contact with it.

[TJ Spyke]

Wait Nintendo is allowing that to be possible? For real?

That doesn't sound like Nintendo at all.

They announced that quite awhile ago, saying that if you pass by someone with a more recent firmware version than yours, it will automatically update yours too.

[Stogi]

That's kinda cool, but kinda fucked up too. What if I didn't want to upgrade?

[NWR_insanolord]

Then you have to fully power down your system any time you might be near someone else's. In Nintendo's way of thinking, everyone should want the most recent firmware. Most of the time, they're right. The only real exception is people using holes in the firmware to hack their systems, something which Nintendo really doesn't want people doing, which gives them even more reason to get as many people as they can to be up to date.

[Stogi]

But it's my system. I don't want to get into the Jailbreak vs. argument. But I really wanted to watch some 3D movies on there, with or without Nintendo's permission.

[BlackNMild2k1]

There is no saying that Nintendo wouldn't allow video playback from an SD card is there? as long as you convert the video to a format that the 3DS will allow you to play from the SD card slot that is.

[NWR_insanolord]

But it's my system. I don't want to get into the Jailbreak vs. argument. But I really wanted to watch some 3D movies on there, with or without Nintendo's permission.

I've got no problem with jailbreaking; my iPhone's jailbroken and I've got the HBC on my Wii. I would prefer Nintendo not force it (and for all we know it may be an option in the system settings), but even though jailbreaking is legal, Nintendo's under no obligation to make it easy.

[Sundoulos]

I would expect that people who are going to put the time into jailbreaking their 3DS will also likely find a way to suppress the automatic updates, if it comes to that.

[Kytim89]

Here is the one of only a few reasons why I do not want a 3DS:
 
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/09/playing-ds-on-a-3ds-is-less-than-ideal/
 
It is a crying shame that the DS games are not played fully on the bigger 3DS screens. Perhaps a firmware update can help?

[MegaByte]

What? You can play either fullscreen stretched or original resolution.

[KnowsNothing]

It's perfectly legal for you to jailbreak an ipod (an argument which was upheld in court), and I think it should be legal for you to jailbreak a 3DS.  I hate that Nintendo plans to force updates and brick systems.  THAT should be illegal, not running different firmware.

[UncleBob]

There's been no indication as to what criteria (if any) Nintendo will use to "brick" a 3DS.  I doubt simply running custom firmware will result in a brick.