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I guess I can add Dead Space to my list.
That doesn't mean it's not coming.  Maybe they will test the market with a port of 1 & 2 together (possibly with the HD upgrade of Extraction as well) before putting resources to porting it to the Wii U. 

Right now, the only games I can guarantee won't be coming to the Wii U are Sony and M$ first party titles and Mass Effect 1.  Everything else is up for grabs at this point regardless of what developers are saying.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Wii U
« on: June 14, 2012, 03:39:55 PM »
-In this long article Iwata wonders if Sony's and Microsoft's next visual leap will be all that noticeable? I remember hearing that back in the early wii days, and here we are. But now a'days I don't know, If the UE4 demo is anything to go by we still won't be seeing Toy Story just yet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/e3/9328561/Satoru-Iwata-interview-Nintendo-rivals-are-already-copying-the-Wii-U.html
Have you watched the original Toy Story lately?  PS360 graphics pretty much beat it.  If you are talking about Toy Story 3, then yes, we are not there.  Toy Story 1 is showing its age pretty blatantly these days.

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You know why the attach rate for the 360 is so low? It's because the amount of owners who have purchased more than 360 console because the last one red ringed is probably one in three, possibly higher. This brings down the games purchased per system average down.

The PS3 has a similar failure rate on its old PHAT model with its YLOD.
No it does not.  Small accounts on internet forums do not make up the failure rate of the 360. 

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Does Retro include any of the old talent that made up Rare? If so, that would explain why they would have asked to do DKCR. Otherwise, they might just perceive themselves as the reincarnation of Rare.
If they did, then that would mean people moved from Europe to the US for the job.  It's highly unlikely unless they loved either the IP or Nintendo that much.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: People Need To Stop Bitching
« on: June 14, 2012, 02:33:49 PM »
The main reason I wasn't interested in Wii Music is because there was only Nintendo's own compositions, as well as a few public domain songs... who cares about "twinkle twinkle little star"? And another problem was there was no musical peripheral for it. No guitar accessory, no drums, no keyboard, no nothing. You do it with the wiimote/chuck. So that's two areas where it could have been hugely improved. If it was more like Guitar Hero or Rock Band and had popular modern songs people cared about and actual musical peripherals it could have been a very cool product.
So they should just copy Rock Band and not make a Nintendo game?  If they did that, you'd complain that they didn't make a Nintendo game and just a clone of something you could already get with Rock Band.

Wii Music is so much different from other music games.  It's not about trying to play songs that already exist, though you can do that.  It's about taking that song and making it your own.  It's about creativity and experimentation.  It's about finding out if when you say you could make that song better, that you can back that up. 

I feel like the reason Wii Music is hated is because nobody bothered to figure out how to play it.  "You mean I don't get to play this licensed song exactly how it was originally done with a couple button presses?  I'm not bothering with this then."

It's possibly one of the most ambitious games that Nintendo has done.  That's probably the reason why it failed.  Nintendo makes something new, but people hate.  Then they complain about Nintendo never making anything new.  The problem is that the "new" that they want Nintendo to make is basically clones of what everyone else makes.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The Wii U Games List
« on: June 13, 2012, 02:27:52 PM »
It was for hype, but maybe they are three games that Nintendo is holding in secret until they have their fall games press thingy where they do the big Wii U blowout so they would still have some surprises in store for that.

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If Miyamoto and Kojima trust SK enough to handle their published titles, they're a competent developer.

With adult supervision, most children can appear competent.
Doesn't this happen with all Nintendo 2nd parties?  Nintendo lets them work alone until they are scheduled to show the project.  The project is no where near Nintendo's standards and they delay the game for a long time while hand holding the developer to guide them in the right direction.  The game finally comes out to critical praise.  Then Nintendo decides not to buy or re-up their commitment to the developer who them goes on to another platform where the game they make there sucks universally and the company is barely heard from again.

Yeah, that sounds about right.  Though when the game came it fuckin' delivered.

Rare is all sucky now so a common opinion is that it was good Nintendo got rid of them.  Nintendo didn't ditch Rare they ditched the Rare/Nintendo team.  THAT was worth hanging on to.  The collaboration between those two companies consistently delivered amazing games.  It isn't like if Rare was still with Nintendo we would get the same lukewarm games MS got out of them.  That would only happen if Nintendo allowed it to be that way.  Odds are we would have continued to get great stuff out of them because of Nintendo's involvement.

Nintendo works really well as QA for someone else's work.

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2.
Probably wouldn't happen due to the dismal sales of the first one.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Wii U
« on: June 13, 2012, 02:23:00 PM »
Saturn came out a year earlier than the PS1, but the Saturn started at $399. PS1 came out at $299.  Sega was already losing money at the $399 price due to adding an additional CPU to try and combat the graphics of the PS1.  Sega was not prepared for the 3D era and as a result, the Saturn pretty much flopped.  It was possibly the hardest system to program for in history (it's actually still one of the hardest systems to emulate on a pc).  Sega shot themselves in the foot beforehand.  They reacted to Sony and in a bad way and it cost them.  They were out of the race before FF7 was announced and before the N64 was released.  The N64 was their final nail.  In fact, if the PS1 never existed, the N64 would have crushed the Saturn because the Saturn would have been only marginally more powerful than the SegaCD.

Of course, there's a chance that if the PS1 didn't exist, the Saturn would not have been rushed to market and may have had specs closer to the N64 as they would have had at least another year of development before releasing it.

Revisionist history is hard to do.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: People Need To Stop Bitching
« on: June 13, 2012, 02:07:23 PM »
We can only hope that the Wii U is actually the "Super Wii".
Don't get Kytim's hopes up.  He may go nuts.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: People Need To Stop Bitching
« on: June 13, 2012, 01:09:40 PM »
I'm not arguing that those aren't GAMES. But they aren't "core" games, and I thought that's what we arguing about? If its not then I was mistaken about this whole conversation.

If you happen to love games like Chicken Shoot, Elf Bowling, Carnival Games, etc. then I'm sure you have no problem with the Wii's software library. Good for you. What about those who like more traditional games, though? Don't their opinions matter? Nintendo claims they are trying to target "everyone" with their software, but not "Everyone" is happy with these products. One size does not always fit all.
I suggest you get the master spreadsheet from Uncle Bob and make this list yourself.  It'll help you figure out your argument.  I'd caution though that you figure it out for all the systems.  Uncle Bob is right.  There were a lot of games on the NES that pretty much mirror the "casual" games on the Wii.

Actually, history should show us that the Wii U will be awesome.  The Wii has mirrored the NES pretty well with the casual and core games that they released. If history continues to repeat, the Wii U will be like the SNES in that it will have a lot more core games and be highly regarded as an amazing system because of the games.  This is all my opinion. :)

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: People Need To Stop Bitching
« on: June 12, 2012, 07:11:36 PM »
Nintendo needs better third party support to gain back more of the core market.  Nintendo is not going to change their philosophy of making games for everyone.  So they need the other companies to create the games catering to certain demographics.  One the NES, yes Nintendo only released 1 game in 1991, but over 100 games were released for the system that year and at least 20 of those were high quality games that were liked by many.  In 2012, the Wii has more 1st party games than the NES did in 1991, but the amount of good games released on the system total was far more than the Wii has had in the last 2-3 years.

It really all comes down to third party support.  NES and SNES both had very good third party support as well as great Nintendo games.  N64 had little 3rd party support but amazing Nintendo games.  The GCN started with good third party support but that quickly ran dry and only had the Nintendo games again.  The Wii had the worst third party support in regards to "core" gamers as that term was created because the Wii existed.  GB,GBA,DS,3DS all have had great third party support in addition to the great Nintendo games and all of those have been considered great systems.

The systems that had bad years right before new hardware was coming out were the ones with bad third party support.  If the Wii U gets the same games the PS360 get over the next 1-2 years and then also get the games that the PS4/Xbox420 get then they will be in good shape (as long as those third party games keep selling on their system).  Otherwise, it will continue to be more of the same, regardless of how many systems the Wii U sells.


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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Wii U in Review (News & Rumor Consolidation)
« on: June 12, 2012, 02:04:01 PM »

Our first game from 2015 revealed
https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/06/01/human-element-revealed.aspx

HumanElement is a zombie horror survival game.


ugg i've been burned out on the whole zombie theme for about 5 years now
From reading that article, it seems less about the zombies and more about the choices you make with other humans.  It sounds like it'll be closer to Last of Us than Resident Evil.

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If Miyamoto and Kojima trust SK enough to handle their published titles, they're a competent developer.

With adult supervision, most children can appear competent.
Doesn't this happen with all Nintendo 2nd parties?  Nintendo lets them work alone until they are scheduled to show the project.  The project is no where near Nintendo's standards and they delay the game for a long time while hand holding the developer to guide them in the right direction.  The game finally comes out to critical praise.  Then Nintendo decides not to buy or re-up their commitment to the developer who them goes on to another platform where the game they make there sucks universally and the company is barely heard from again.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: E3 2012 Predictions
« on: June 08, 2012, 01:43:12 PM »
ME3 is the bomb according to people who've been playing already. And it won't be a direct port, it'll have that new ending people were bitching for.
The new ending is available to everyone already.  At least that is how I understand it.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Wii U
« on: June 07, 2012, 04:59:50 PM »
I talked to a higher up from Retro today.


Sure you did. No one at any game company (especially if they are that high up) is going to disclose what they are or aren't working on. They'll simply say "We don't comment on speculation".
Why are you acting like you think he's a liar?  Caterkiller has never shown any sign that he is not trustworthy.


Because why would he brag about talking to a higher-up at a major game studio? Seems suspicious.
Ummm, if you spoke with a higher-up at a major game studio, would you keep it quiet and never tell a soul?

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Wii U
« on: June 07, 2012, 03:28:55 PM »
I talked to a higher up from Retro today.


Sure you did. No one at any game company (especially if they are that high up) is going to disclose what they are or aren't working on. They'll simply say "We don't comment on speculation".
Why are you acting like you think he's a liar?  Caterkiller has never shown any sign that he is not trustworthy. 

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Wii U
« on: June 07, 2012, 03:24:26 PM »
"The Third Party support is the best a Nintendo launch has ever had, though half the games are ports."

No Square/Enix, Activision, and only one EA game?  Ubisoft seems to be the only one supporting the console but still even some of it's bigger showcase titles where a no show or not getting ported (IE Ghost Recon Online was a no show, games like Far Cry 3 or Splinter Cell weren't announced, hell even the new reveal Watch Dogs wasn't mentioned).

Not sure what nintendo was thinking?  Or did they just assumed developers were going jump on board? 
Looks like it's at least 2 games from EA as they have Madden and FIFA coming this year.  At least according to the NWR Front page.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: June 07, 2012, 10:32:02 AM »
On top of that its a remake of a Gameboy Colour game.

Hate to be nitpicky, but even in Europe and Australia it was the Game Boy Color (not Colour).

Louie, DQ IX was the best selling game in the series in Japan. So yeah, a huge selling franchise on a huge selling system will equal huge sales. LOL
[/quoteIt feels like it's treated like a different series than regular DQ.  I know the series is popular, just not popular enough to reach that high of sales.  I was thinking it'd make around 250-300K, not 500K+.  That's all I was saying.  It makes sense though I guess when you state it was a remake.  It seems like DQ remakes seem to always sell well.  I thought it was a new game.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: June 06, 2012, 03:43:30 PM »
And the 3DS gets a huge boost from DQM 3D.  Who knew that series was still this popular in Japan?  I'm guessing it'll be another million seller at this point.

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Nintendo Gaming / Re: E3 2012 Press Conferences - Day 2: Nintendo
« on: June 06, 2012, 12:36:15 PM »
When's the 3DS conference taking place?

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General Gaming / Re: Watchdogs is the new hotness
« on: June 06, 2012, 12:33:50 PM »
I think it will get ported to the Wii U.  It may not be day and date with the PS360 though.

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I'm still holding out hope that Nintendo will wow us at some point.  The majority of games that have been announced have been western games.  Maybe they are holding onto the 3rd party Japanese games for their own conference in Japan to show those games. 

And I agree that M$ wants to stay with the 360 for as long as possible.  The more I see, the more it feels like the reports that they will wait until at least 2014 to release the new one are correct.  They are making money on the 360 and they know there is no guarantee when they will start making money with the new system.  Why destroy a revenue when it shows no signs of diminishing?  M$ is not run by the Maloof family so they are smart enough to retain proven revenue streams.

M$ will release their system no later than 1 year after the PS4/Orbis.

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My only gripe about PS+ is my current HD is the low 20GB model :( .  Really should upgrade to 500GB+ drive because Sony's giving weekly Freebies all the time.
At least from what I've heard its really simple to swap the harddrives.

It is. The only tool you need is a screwdriver and about 5 minutes of your time. There are plenty of video tutorials you can find on youtube to show you how to perform the procedure.
Unless you want to transfer everything on your current HDD over to the new one though.  Creating a backup requires an external HDD and the backup process takes FOREVER.  My suggestion is you put any saves and pictures and music you have that you want to keep onto a usb thumbdrive. Then switch the HDDs, then put all that stuff back on afterwards and just redownload all the games again. It'll probably be faster.

Or if you have PS Plus you can upload all your saves online. Yes, it would suck to redownload all your stuff, but considering his harddrive is only 20gb (that's what he said) he can't really have too much on there anyway, so it shouldn't be a big deal.
I agree.  I did say it's probably easier to just redownload everything he had.  I totally forgot about PS+ online saves.  That makes even more sense.

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but I'm still concerned that she may drag the game out in the platforming areas.

This game isn't Uncharted, who says there will be platfomring areas?
Did you see the demo?  They climbed up a ledge and it took her three times as long to climb up that ledge.  That ledge took them to a different platform. Therefore, platforming.

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My only gripe about PS+ is my current HD is the low 20GB model :( .  Really should upgrade to 500GB+ drive because Sony's giving weekly Freebies all the time.
At least from what I've heard its really simple to swap the harddrives.

It is. The only tool you need is a screwdriver and about 5 minutes of your time. There are plenty of video tutorials you can find on youtube to show you how to perform the procedure.
Unless you want to transfer everything on your current HDD over to the new one though.  Creating a backup requires an external HDD and the backup process takes FOREVER.  My suggestion is you put any saves and pictures and music you have that you want to keep onto a usb thumbdrive. Then switch the HDDs, then put all that stuff back on afterwards and just redownload all the games again. It'll probably be faster.

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