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Nintendo Gaming / The Orka Challenge
« on: April 05, 2003, 07:17:39 PM »
Yes, but he will also give you the title "Master" for getting a 1,000. At least that's what I have read at multiple places.
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QuoteDid you even actually bother to read my post. I said that it was for HARDCORE METROID FANS. I didn't say that you had to be a hardcore fan of Nintendo and all of their games. The figure has nothing to do with the games series so don't try to use that as leverage in your argument. A hardcore Metroid fan is someone who wants to play and own every game. Not someone who wants to buy some stupid figure. Again my point was that if you are a HARDCORE METROID FANS that you would own and beat both the GC and GBA game and therefore get to unlock Metroid in Metroid Prime.
Originally posted by: Stimutacs AddictQuote
Originally posted by: Gibdo Master<br
I would like to point out that the whole idea of the Metroid bonus in Prime was that it was for hardcore Metroid fans. If you were a hardcore fan then you would have purchased both games. This means that you would have both GC and a GBA therefore you could unlock the first Metroid game. It was a bonus for hardcore fans not for people like you.
not everyone is a hardcore fan of every Nintendo Game.. don't try to use that as leverage in your argument..
a real fan would have bought the 5@|\/||_|5 @|<+10|\| figure
[edit] someone please kill me
QuoteTake your own advice and get over the GBA and GCN connective features.
Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
you sound like a bitter child. grow up
QuoteOh, and like that whole bit there wasn't offensive. Yet if someone gets defensive over that then they are wrong for doing that. Frankly I'm glad you'll be missing out on the rest of Wind Waker. Good way to punish yourself. Sure it has its faults but over all it's a great game.
Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
There is no way in hell I am buying a freaking gameboy so I can get an extra in a game I have already payed for. I think this whole concept is utterly rediculous. This is the king of crap MS would pull, you want this you have to buy this as well then.
QuoteUmm, Mouse Clicker brought this on himself. He's telling us that we don't know what we are talking about and freaking out but when a bunch of people make post proving him wrong we're busting his balls. Interesting. Besides as I recall Mouse Clicker has done this kind of stuff in the past were he has tried to prove something completely wrong despite what everyone else is saying.
Originally posted by: BoB007
WTF .... stop bustin MouseClickers balls .... You guys are looking WAAAYYY too into this ..
QuoteI have to completely disagree with this. If you are trying to get all the heart pieces as well as any side quest money is a big deal in this game. Most things are very expensive and rupees maybe easy to come by but you still don't really get enough considering there are some items that are necessary for getting everything that are 900+ rupees. Money in Ocarina of Time on the other hand was completely worthless in my opinion pretty much the only thing you had to pay for was the minigames and the shield at the beginning of the game. Everything that you could buy in the stores could be fairly easily obtained for free. Sure you couldn't get potions for free but with fairies what was the point anyway.
Originally posted by: odinfire
-- Money means absolutely nothing in the game. Its too easy to come by and there really is nothing to buy except bait and getting your maps read by tingle.
QuoteHere's some more that refers to the Great Cataclysm:
MAIDEN IN SKULL WOODS PALACE:
...Do you know the prophecy of the Great Cataclysm?
This is the way I heard it...
If a person who has an evil heart gets the Triforce, a Hero is destined to appear...
...and he alone must face the person who began the Great Cataclysm.
If the evil one destroys the Hero, nothing can save the world from his wicked reign.
Only a person of the Knights Of Hyrule, who protected the royalty of Hylia, can become the Hero... You are of their blood-line, aren't you? Then you must rescue
Zelda without fail.
QuoteLike I said this is the closest thing I could find to what Mouse Clicker was talking about but guess what. It says nothing about this occurring every 100 years. In fact it backs up what Mingesium said. It simply says that whenever an evil person gets a hold of the Triforce that a new hero will appear. It doesn't matter whether it's been a hundred or a thousand years since the last hero was around it only matters that there's some bad dude around and that the world needs a hero to stop him.
INSCRIPTION ON MASTER SWORD PEDESTAL:
The Hero's triumph on Cataclysm's Eve
Wins three symbols of virtue.
The Master Sword he will then retrieve,
Keeping the Knight's line true.
QuoteThat whole qoute proves my point. They let their readers handle the whole damn thing for them while they did nothing. First a reader tells them the SP is messed up. With out looking into it more they post this info. Then it wasn't till after they were e-mailed that they were wrong that they corrected the post. Real professional huh.
Update: Several more reader have writen in to let us know that the official GCN-GBA link cable works perfectly on the GBA SP without any issues of depressing the shoulder buttons during use. Dojo Reader Kris did not comment on whether or not a 3rd Party cable was used when encountering the problems, but given the numerous responses claiming that the official cable is working properly it's a good wager that this is the case.
QuoteYes, you distinctly remember something that you imagined while high.
Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
I distinctly remember in the opening scene of Wind Waker (where they explained the backstory, aka Ocarina of Time), they said that a new hero arises to face evil every 100 years.
QuoteGoing by what you are saying then why would she need to mention Metroid Prime. It doesn't have anything to do with the hatchling whether it takes place before or after Metroid II.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
"Well, guess what if Metroid Prime took place after Metroid II that little opening intro would have still been messed up wouldn't it."
Nope. I mentioned this earlier in the thread. Samus's "log" (for lack of a better word) at the start of Super Metroid wasn't a complete battle record. It was a very short history of her experience with Metroids and the Metroid Hatchling in her posession.
She says she first fought the Metroids on Zebes, and next fought them on SR-388, where she picked up the baby Metroid. She seems to be just talking about the story of the baby Metroid, so she doesn't need to talk about anything that happened after she found it (until she did something noteworthy with it, at Ceres), but the way it was worded eliminated the option of Metroid Prime (unless MP didn't have any Metroids in it, but it did).
QuoteWell, guess what if Metroid Prime took place after Metroid II that little opening intro would have still been messed up wouldn't it.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Super Metroid (which you even said laid out the storyline nice and clearly) says that no encounter between Samus and Metroids can exist between Metroids 1 and 2. "The first time I battled Metroids was on Zebes. The next time was on their homeworld, where I wiped them out."
QuoteShe didn't leave without finishing the job. Instead of killing the hatchling she decided to take it to a Galactic Ferederation research station so it could be studied. They were obviously happy about this from the way that one scientist was shaking Samus's hand in the Super Metroid intro. Leaving the planet without finishing the job would be more like if she just decided to leave the hatchling on the planet without killing it.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
She didn't "fail" her mission exactly, but she did abandon it. The Galactic Federation decided that the Metroids were too dangerous to exist, and hired Samus to wipe them out. She killed a bunch of Metroids, then left the planet without finishing the job.
QuoteTo quote you, "You're making assumptions about her character. Ones I (for one) don't agree with." Your entire post there is about personal opinions that exist only in your head. They weren't stated any where in the games so how does it make your assumptions about her character better than mine. Hell, I wasn't even making assumptions. I was only going by what's in the games. Since you have obviously read the intro for Super Metroid I figured you would have noticed this part, "I personally delivered it to the galactic research station at Ceres so scientists could study its energy producing qualities...". She says right there that the reason she took it the research station was so that the damn thing could be studied.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
You seem to think she did that because she saw a "containable" Metroid, and compromised her entire mission because she realized it was worth more alive.
I think she couldn't finish her mission because she's not a baby-killer. She realized her mission was wrong. This Metroid thought Samus was it's mother, and she couldn't betray it.
Saving the life of one baby Metroid was an atonement for her genocide, and I think it's possible that it could have taken a while for the Galactic Federation to convince Samus that the Metroid would be safe and well-treated with them, before she handed it over.
QuoteHahaha... My point was is that you can't put another game between Metroid II and Super Metroid because we know of Samus whereabouts during that time. Also as far as Samus knew she had wiped out all the metroids except for the hatchling after what she did on SR388. As a matter of fact she had wiped them all out except for the hatchling.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Because the Space Pirates aren't cabable of transporting Metroids through space, so they alway need to get fresh ones from SR-388. I get it now. Wait, if SR-388 is another planet...
QuoteOh, so putting Metroid Prime after Metriod II even though it would have caused the exact same plot hole in the Super Metroid intro wouldn't have cheapened it. Interesting logic you have there.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Because putting it before Metroid 2 made a plot hole. Super Metroid didn't just forget to mention Metroid Prime, they ruled it out. Now people have to either ignore a "flaw" in Super Metroid's story, or one in Metroid Prime's. That cheapens the entire Metroid storyline.
QuoteUmm, when did I say that we need Metroid on SR388 to get metroids? NEVER. In fact Metroid Prime addresses that whole idea because the pirates had extra metroids that they had on space ships and stuff. Samus wasn't aware of this till sometime after she landed on Tallon IV. However it's obvious from Super Metroid that the space pirates no longer had a personal supply of metroids and since SR388 didn't have any that's why they had to steal the hatchling. This means that Samus destroyed the pirates supply of metroid during Metroid Prime. Actually if Metroid Prime 2 is a direct sequel to Metroid Prime then the space pirates personal supply of metroid will probably be destroyed during that game.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Especially since I can see a better opening for a game after Metroid 2, due to some potential extra time (nobody is saying it is there, but it could have been if Retro wrote it that way), and the fact that the Space Pirates and the planet SR-388 are seperate issues. The Space Pirates don't need to get Metroids from SR-388. They already have them. What, do people think that there will never be any more Metroids in any future Mertoid games? Ever? If the Space Pirates can come back, so can the Metroids.
QuoteFirst of all the Rito didn't evolve. In the game it is mentioned that Valoo changed them and started giving them their wings long ago. Also it does not say that a new hero is born every 100 years in the intro. Where in the hell did you get that from?
Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
SPOILERS
Gibdo: I noticed all of those references, too, about the difference between OoT and WW being much more than 100 years (especially since if Medli, a bird like Rito, is the blood descendant of the Zora sage of the Earth temple- it would take MUCH lnoger than a century for a being to evolve that much), and since Link from OoT is already a legend, which takes lnoger to formulate than a mere 100 years. But if you look at the opening scene, it says that every 100 years a new hero is born, which heavily implies that the Link of WW is the next Link after the one in OoT, and the fact that they worship the Hero of Time so much means there haven't been any Links inbetween OoT and WW, placing WW 100 years after OoT. Very confusing.
QuoteI have to completely disagree with all of that. First of all whether or not she wouldn't have gotten paid she wouldn't have been irresponsible and just ran around the galaxy with something that is a galactic threat. She would have and did in fact take it immediately to the space station. Also I doubt she wouldn't have gotten paid. For one thing she didn't fail her mission. It's just that instead of destroying the last Metroid she just packed it up and took it with her. It could still be destroyed at any time. Also I'm sure that she was probably paid even more for bringing back a live test subject. I can't imagine that the scientist were upset over that. Scientist: "Samus we are very upset that you brought us the very last metroid so we could study the thing. Something that as scientist we would absolutely love to do. It's also something no one else could do because it was far to dangerous. Because of this we aren't paying you." Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
Originally posted by: ruby_onix
I'm speculating that Samus could have kept the Hatchling around for a while before turning it over for research. I mean, she did violate her mission objective (and probably didn't get paid) because she let it live.