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General Chat / Re: The COVID-19 Virus is Coming For Us All Thread
« on: March 16, 2020, 12:20:28 AM »
It might be because my perception of things is being colored by Spanish flu documentaries from 2018-19 that are still fresh in my mind, but I think the Wuhan virus is way worse than most people realize. If the"flatten the curve" plan is successful, these measures will have to be in place until the beginning of 2021.

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What, I'm not auto signed up? But I enrolled in postless winning.

In.

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Administration / Re: iTT we make eachother feel old.
« on: February 06, 2020, 12:14:08 AM »
I'm 30 :(

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None but neither did my couple Stratos since Khush fucked us over we were too busy in our own world.
Pokepal voted me out on day one in the game before that.

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Reread the rest of that post. I basically explained why you usually get voted out midway through the game.
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The way you just swing in with a vote and maybe a line or two worth of explanation in pretty much every game you play, regardless of role, and especially as the game goes on makes you seem suspicious because it makes it seem like you're hiding something and like you're trying not to say more than you have to because you're worried it can be used against you.

But a lot of players do just that and it has no correlation as you said with my role. Also, being too much of a busybody makes you a target of mafia hits, see Khush's life story.

My later game votes had justification and you're crazy if you think I'm going to start acting like Khush and make every post a word mountain.

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You also seem to have skimmed each day's thread and missed the fact we could keep neighborizing even after having 3 members. I told you were wrong and cited BS post but you still refused to change your vote on day 6.


That wasn't even my issue with your plan. My issue with your plan was that it basically assumes that Nickmitch and Mop it Up are idiots who wouldn't notice that we're blatantly trying to keep stevey alive at all costs so he can neighborize more people, which having worked with them for most of this game and having watched them thwart my stupid scheme, I can assure you is not the case.

I just do not believe there was any better course of action than voting you out for townie cred and taking matters into my own hands.

There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia? A justification you could have told them is that I revealed that I was actually Wesker and wanted revenge on Alexia (Insanolord) for taking both my henchmen Luigi Dude and lolmonade. Since this confirms what they already knew and fits in with my personality of vendettas, there's a good chance they would have fell for it. They could want to stick with me but if it was the truth then that would mean Insanolord/Alexia would get another Neighborization the next day which would be game over and too dangerous to ignore.
And why the **** would they not just vote you out so you can't get any kills in.

Because they could do it the next day. Wesker didn't have a hit on day 6 and Alexia was the biggest threat.

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There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia

The fact that you were posting so frequently but not really giving any kind of logic with your posts outside of the TopHatAnt one on day 6 where you actually gave a decent explanation for why you were voting for them. I'm going to be brutally honest here. The way you just swing in with a vote and maybe a line or two worth of explanation in pretty much every game you play, regardless of role, and especially as the game goes on makes you seem suspicious because it makes it seem like you're hiding something and like you're trying not to say more than you have to because you're worried it can be used against you.

What? I was barely posting once or twice a day because I was(am) busy with stuff in real life.
Day 1: throw away vote
Day 2: throw away vote
Day 3: no posts at all (thread closed too early)
Day 4: rule clarification post that alexia gets unlimited zombies
Day 4: vote for khush, always vote for khush kids
Day 5: pointed out Tophatant123 suspicious vote
Day 5: voted for Tophatant123 due to his suspicious vote
Day 5: mocked you for your snuff odor fetish
Day 6: voted for Tophatant123 again

I don't see anything too suspicious. Nobody would have thought anything if you had a change of heart and went for Tophatant123.

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You also seem to have skimmed each day's thread and missed the fact we could keep neighborizing even after having 3 members. I told you were wrong and cited BS post but you still refused to change your vote on day 6.


That wasn't even my issue with your plan. My issue with your plan was that it basically assumes that Nickmitch and Mop it Up are idiots who wouldn't notice that we're blatantly trying to keep stevey alive at all costs so he can neighborize more people, which having worked with them for most of this game and having watched them thwart my stupid scheme, I can assure you is not the case.

I just do not believe there was any better course of action than voting you out for townie cred and taking matters into my own hands.

There were plenty of ways to spin the vote. What possible evidence did you guys have that I was Alexia? A justification you could have told them is that I revealed that I was actually Wesker and wanted revenge on Alexia (Insanolord) for taking both my henchmen Luigi Dude and lolmonade. Since this confirms what they already knew and fits in with my personality of vendettas, there's a good chance they would have fell for it. They could want to stick with me but if it was the truth then that would mean Insanolord/Alexia would get another Neighborization the next day which would be game over and too dangerous to ignore.

Another option is that you're just seconding guessing yourself of why you're going after me after speaking to me.

It's why whenever you do your next game you should just make the encryptor outright immune to neighborisation.

There's no point in encrypting messages if the sender and message are known :P. Rather in the next game, give the mafia the power to instantly kill the encryptor at any time if they guess their identity. But if they guess wrong, they lose a henchman (like a reverse vigilante). Then there is a reason to keep the encryptor identity hidden. Otherwise the doctor can always protect them and they just become a known townie role. This has been a problem in other games and it's time to fix it.

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Especially when I was voted out Day 4 instead of Stevey and Stevey had told me he was Mafia.
You're reading too much into it. I would always be happy to see you in mortal danger and die regardless of what my role and your role were. :evil;
Alexia mafia probably should have won this game in the end because townies and OG mafia were losing members while it kept gaining and growing in power. The big mistake was turning pokepal148 on Day 6. That was the worst person for the Alexia Mafia to choose because it had been established on Day 3 that he was the one player who could easily be exposed if he was turned. If nickmitch or Mop it up or heck, even Insanolord had been turned, the only way to prove it would be to vote them out or re-investigate if they'd been investigated before (except nickmitch). Had stevey chosen anyone of Steefosaurus, Mr. Bungle, Insanolord, TOPHATANT123, Nickmitch, or Mop it up then there is a good chance this game goes down to the last day of like 3 townies and 1 mafia member and can the players still trust their allies or wonder which has been turned.

(Insanolord a bit less but that is because we now know after the fact that detective was working through players and by Day 6 was still planning on investigating and checking up lolmonade and Insanolord. Thus, Insanolord would have lost the townie hiding ability if turned so detective may have been able to still successfully play things out as they did with pokepal's turning. Had Insanolord been vetted earlier than that might have been more difficult and a longer endgame.)

As I told pokepal148 in a pm after he revealed himself as Leon on Day 3:

Oddly, I think you are a bigger threat to the Ashford mafia since you can confirm your townie ability each day with your message. If you can't message then we know you've turned. This means Ashford mafia cannot successfully turn you without exposing you've been turned right after doing it. Therefore, it is better for them to eliminate you if they can to keep townies from being able to fully trust anyone. If I'm still in the game, I can be accused of having been turned and part of the mafia or have doubt spread about me. On the other hand, I'm probably more dangerous to the Wesker mafia since I need to eliminate them whether I'm a townie or if I was around to be turned by the Ashford mafia. Even though you are now a known townie, you are pretty much stuck in your role and don't have a major power that can expose them or thwart their hit. Thus, it may not be a high priority to eliminate you tonight. But who knows what sort of logic they are using?


That one bad choice by Stevey ended the chances for the Alexia mafia after getting so far into the game and close to the win.

I was about to neighborize Nickmitch since I already figured he was the investigator days prior and probably hadn't investigated lolmonade yet. Then I second thought myself. The problem was he probably didn't have many people left that he didn't investigate so if he didn't actually find the last member of the OG mafia or gave false info, he would be found out. I could have gone for the townies but they would be on the short list of who to re-investigate and vote for. Mop, nope. Pokepal, .... Pokepal! Sure he could be found out but wouldn't that be no different than not neighborizing and placing a hit? Except we wouldn't need to worry about mop's protection and it would be one less vote out that could have gone to one of us or Insanolord. Then the townies would lose their unifying member and doubt would run rampant. Plus, I could turn the vote and save myself potentially giving me another neighborization. At that point I was sold.

Turns out I was right about Nickmitch. By day 6, the only players he didn't investigate was Insanolord and lolmonade. All I needed to do was decide whether to betray Insanolord and gain daily neighborization powers or stick with with my original plan of annexing him and go after someone else. Pokepal took this momentary indecision for who to swing the vote towards as 'I don't have a clue', rage/panic voted me, got rid of Insanolord anyway which removed suspicion on plain townies, and then picked a fight with the second most public townie Mop.

I wish so things could have gone differently.
If Insanolord and lolmonade last minute voted on day 5 and place a hit on a random townie, we would have won 4-4 on day 6 by neighborizing Insanolord. But I understand how they were put off by the risk.
If pokepal could have fucking waited a few hours on day 6....
If pokepal didn't hastily kill Insanolord on day 7, a mafia could have at least won.
Instead of picking a public betrayal fight with Mop on day 8, Poke should have convinced Mop and Nickmitch to not vote immediately for lolmonade but rather use him to smoke out the last turned townie since numbers and time weren't on your side. Each of them should have voted for a random townie and then lolmonade would go out of his way to swing it away from one. Since Poke didn't start the vote, the townie being set up by lolmonade wouldn't likely be throwing accusations that Poke has been turned. Poke could have explained his bizarre informant post on day 7 by saying he promised not to go after lolmonade nor tell the townies his role but it's not poke's fault that they already knew :P. It's deceptive/devious/Khushrenada-esque but it could have worked.
If I just went with the boring conventional pick of a townie rather than trying to inject more chaos/entertainment/surprise.

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Stevey kinda left us hanging when he turned me since I was certain that his plan from than on out would fail and Lolmonade was unavailable for day 7 so it was basically on me to try to chart a path to victory. I wanna thank lolmonade for going along with my stupid scheme I concocted.

You never gave me a chance to work out a plan and rushed to restore your vote for no reason whatsoever. You could have just left it off and played it off as fishing for information from me with the remaining time.

Then you kept throwing the game on purpose the following days.

I only skimmed it so I didn't pick up on it

You also seem to have skimmed each day's thread and missed the fact we could keep neighborizing even after having 3 members. I told you were wrong and cited BS post but you still refused to change your vote on day 6.


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So much history this game has why do people get upset when there is some variation to the rules
Because you never communicated it as such.
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Steve Burnside: This is the Doctor for the game.  Steve will be able to protect someone from death each night. He can protect someone else as many times as he likes and he also has a limited amount of self protects which will be 2 for the whole game.  Steve is not the best protector as a character but he is willing to save anyone he is able to.
If Insanolord knew it wasn't either poke or mop, I doubt he would have hit any of the three and picked a random townie.
There is also the and in there after the first part meaning Steve can protect someone aside from himself and he can protect himself.

POLL: Who among the players realized this meant 2 protections?

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So much history this game has why do people get upset when there is some variation to the rules
Because you never communicated it as such.
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Steve Burnside: This is the Doctor for the game.  Steve will be able to protect someone from death each night. He can protect someone else as many times as he likes and he also has a limited amount of self protects which will be 2 for the whole game.  Steve is not the best protector as a character but he is willing to save anyone he is able to.
If Insanolord knew it wasn't either poke or mop, I doubt he would have hit any of the three and picked a random townie.

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Mop it up used a protect on herself and pokepal148. Mop it up has 1 self protect remaining.
Mop it up self protects and protects Nickmitch. Mop it up has no remaining self protects left.

What the **** is this bullshit!
It is how the role was made.   Limited amount of self protects for the doctor so you could target the doctor early on and make them waste the self protects to kill the doctor outright.  Also the self protects was only active for that one night so they could be wasted which did happen on Day 6 when no one targeted Mop it up.  Mop it up was able to die for 3 days via hit.  Mop it up bluffed and that is why the hit was on steefosaurus.

I detailed it in the signup thread I am pretty sure and I would answer any question asked of me if prompted.

Yeah, limited doctor self protects means the doctor can choose to protect himself RATHER THAN SOMEONE ELSE. It's always been that way. Not fucking bonus protections.

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Mop it up used a protect on herself and pokepal148. Mop it up has 1 self protect remaining.
Mop it up self protects and protects Nickmitch. Mop it up has no remaining self protects left.

What the **** is this bullshit!

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 22, 2020, 01:46:01 PM »

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84 RE:CV Dead Thread
« on: January 22, 2020, 02:16:11 AM »
This is what I get for being nice to Khush and not killing him. Never again :ph:

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Vote ... TOPHATANT123? I still find his earlier bandwagoning suspicious and the fact he never switched his vote from me to Luigi Dude is very odd. It was 4 Luigi Dude to 3 TOPHATANT123 for over 24 hours giving him more than enough time to switch and give himself safe margin from being voted out. I think he was reluctant to kill Luigi Dude and was hoping for someone to swing the vote to some one else and save the both of them.

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New intel from Leon S Kennedy.  Lets see what wise wisdom Leon has to say.

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Now Khushrenada smells like a dead body.

Why do you keep smelling him‽

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Vote ... Tophatant123? He's slightly more suspicious with his eager and shaky bandwagoning attempts.

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Huh, what lead?

Welp there goes ShyGuy. Not sure where to go now, Stevey has been quiet so they would make a good candidate... Don't want to come off as mafia by jumping on another early bandwagon, but I'll Vote Stevey for now, open to changing my mind if the voting history finds a better argument.

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Fire Emblem: Three Houses's...
YES, EDELGARD!
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...Byleth Announced As Newest Smash Bros Ultimate Character
Damn it, Sakurai. Just up the DLC rating and add in female characters with personality. Stop bowing down to censors!

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Vote... Khush?

I don't think Khush is Wesker 'n co but if he's Alexia then the borg needs to be stopped.

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Quote from: BeautifulShy
So if ShyGuy is voted out and is Alexia then the Ashford hit would go to the person they select from her goons. The Neighborize power is Alexia's and Alexia's alone so if voted out then the Ashford Mafia wouldn't be able to grow their numbers anymore.  However the next possible even day that turned goon would be able to send in a Mafia hit for the Ashford Mafia.  If that turned player is voted out as per usual with my games the hit would be stopped.  Oh also.  Alexia and Albert show up as normal townies in investigations which is pretty typical for mafia games for the leaders of a mafia team.

If I had allowed the Goon that was turned to continue to have the neighborized power after Alexia's death then the game could turn into a game of "Find the turned player and vote them out" and it would be drawn out until there is very little players on one side and the Ashford Mafia having a large amount of players on their team.

Wait, so does that mean Alexia can keep turning players even after she reaches 2 goons? Will she be able to both kill and borg assimilate players on even nights? Say Khush was turned on day 2 and Poke is turned on day 4, if we vote out Khush tonight, will that prevent Alexia from having 2 active goons and a hit?

And just to confirm, assimilation happens during the night correct? So if a player is turned and investigated tonight, what happens? Will the investigator see it or does he have to send his action in after Alexia?

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84: RE: CV Neighbor Day 2- Wesker?!
« on: January 11, 2020, 05:40:57 PM »
Vote ... Mr. Bungle?

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84: RE: CV Neighbor Day 1- Who are you!
« on: January 08, 2020, 08:00:10 AM »
Vote ... Stratos?

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NWR Mafia Games / Re: Mafia 84: RE: Code Veronica Neighbor signup thread
« on: December 25, 2019, 07:37:59 PM »
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