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General Gaming / RE:Okami

« on: October 17, 2006, 09:48:18 PM »

Can you explain what a Neutral zone is for an analog stick and why Wii doesn't have it? I have no idea what you are talking about Evan .

[Smash_Brother]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 17, 2006, 09:39:38 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother

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Originally posted by: VGrevolution ::Gives up on writing anything anything of any length in the future since people it is obvious people don't care::

We all read your post (I did, anyway).

It's just that, when it becomes Ian vs. the world in a thread, we all tend to make similar arguments.

I think we all should chip in and give Ian another vacation, it was so nice  when was he was relatively happy and positive.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:The Perfect Wii Tv

« on: October 17, 2006, 09:26:15 PM »

You can get some good TVs for 1000-1500$ that are 30-40inches, just make sure you research stuff like color saturation and how it handles "blacks". On a side note I Hear the 1080p are almost worthless if the screen is less than 45 (Unless you are sitting reall close), so that makes a 30-42 inch model even more "affordable".  With that said that TV looks to be a good deal, but I really would check on the things I mentioned, and whether or not it supports 720p which some don't!  

[Arbok]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 17, 2006, 09:18:32 PM »

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Originally posted by: Arbok
Gotta aplaud IceCold for the post of the thread right here; a lot of great points, and I fully agree that a lot of the mindshare that Nintendo is now getting is because they aren't following the pack in terms of their next console, but are paving their own way which is really turning heads.

Will it pay off? Time will tell, but I think Nintendo is in a much better position right now then they could have been with a traditional console ready to launch.

::Gives up on writing anything anything of any length in the future since people it is obvious people don't care:: Anyway good post Ice, that definately does fall into Nintendo using a the Business model of diffentiation. Also is it just me or does Ian seem like he needs another vacation? He seems to be in grumpy mode again .

[Professional 666]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Red Steel Topic, MORE new details! (last post)

« on: October 17, 2006, 09:14:16 PM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
The ugliest thing about the game is the gun-hand tilts WAY FAR BACK at unnatural aiming angles.  When aiming, it's shouldn't be the hand that pivots about the wrist, it's the forearm or whole arm pivoting about the player's origin of vision.

I KNEW UBI WAS GOING TO COMPLETELY FORK SOMETHING UP

As we all know PC FPSs are super realistic, especially turning on a dime . Really if this is the worse thing wrong with the game I'll be quite happy .  

[Dirk Temporo]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:A Pokemon Battle Revolution video that you can ACTUALLY SEE!

« on: October 17, 2006, 02:09:19 PM »

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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
Is that video real time? If it is, then... HOLY SH!T!

It looks like real time to me, and it does look impressive. The new stills don't do the visuals justice.

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TalkBack / RE:Codemasters Responds to Bubble Bobble Revolution Bug

« on: October 17, 2006, 01:55:16 PM »

Well they say the glitch was caused by a faulty production of cartridges so maybe this was something a playtester couldn't have caught and was more on the production side of things.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 17, 2006, 01:39:36 PM »

Hmm I think one of my previous posts would be better off here in regards to Nintendo's strategy which is different from other generations. They changed in order to compete again and are taking a more differentiation, prospector strategy which usually is not concerned with price or really trying to react to everything the competition does but focuses on innovation.  Sony and MS are taking a more "low-cost", "reactor" approach strategy where they try to give more "bang for your buck" reacting to the competition.


To call Nintendo's move a mistake or them making the same error is stupid until we see the final outcome. This is pretty much untreaded territory for gaming consoles, and all a thinking person would say is that it is risky, we still do not know if it will work for sure. Apple did the same thing with iPod, and Nintendo is trying to do the same with Wii which is to create another market within the gaming industry through differentiation (iPod was quite unique at the time and was competing within the small consumer electronics industry) and also like iPod these fights are won through abstract value along with its uniqueness to hopefully create a new market for others to follow suit (price is seldom "low" for this kind of approach).. This paraells the Wii in that it is competing within the console industry but has done something different to set it self apart hoping that this new take on gaming will create a new market within the industry while bringing in current gamers, like iPod did within the small consumer electronics industry.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 17, 2006, 01:35:11 PM »

delete

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General Chat / RE:Heroes

« on: October 17, 2006, 01:46:43 AM »

I agree it is the best new show on TV. Right now I watch these shows on a constant basis:

Heroes
Smallville
Supernatural
Lost (my favorite show currently)
Jericho (it has potential)
Battlestar Galactica (still as deep as ever)
Survivor (Not one of my favorites and this is the first season I have ever watched since I do not usually care for reality shows)

[Svevan]

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TalkBack / RE:REVIEWS: Star Fox Command

« on: October 16, 2006, 10:22:17 PM »

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Originally posted by: Svevan
YAY I got the best ending in Star Fox!

BOO the endings in Star Fox suck

YAY I've gone to every planet in the game!

BOO all the planets are the same

YAY I've unlocked every playable character!

BOO I still have to play as Slippy

YAY a Star Fox game that isn't the fail!

BOO a Star Fox game that isn't Star Fox

Well you got farther than I did, I could never get used to the controls and got overly frustrated .

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 10:05:10 PM »

I wonder if there was profit made on the SNES and what the price would be with inflation factored in.

[TrueNerd]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Wii console sales give retailers a higher profit margin than competition

« on: October 16, 2006, 09:55:11 PM »

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Originally posted by: TrueNerd
Two ways to look at this.

One way is it means retailers will hopefully try and push Wii's to people since they make more off of it. The more people that have it, the more games that will be made for it. Good for us.

The converse of that is wouldn't more people simply want it if it was $50 cheaper?

Perhaps at 50$ cheaper NIntendo would be taking a 30$ loss, would that be good? As of now we don't know for sure how much a Wii costs to produce, there are so many variables this time around than before. Not only is the Wii more powerful than the GC but it is also vastly more condensed, it also includes built in Wifi along with the controller which I have no doubt in my mind is more expensive to produce than the GC's. Not only that but you get all the other functions with Wii that GC did not, so once again I think the price is justified.

I also want to throw this out, how many of you have iPods? Do you honestly believe they cost close to 200$ to produce? There is no way they cost that much, and guess what the technology is not that advanced in the 200$ models, so do you feel "cheated" if you own an iPod, or is there something more to it that gives you "value"? Like the iPod originally did, Nintendo is trying to do the same with Wii which is to create another market within the gaming industry through differentiation (iPod was quite unique at the time) and also like iPod these fights are won through abstract value along with its uniqueness to hopefully create a new market for others to follow suit. Now I don't know what the materials cost in the original iPod but I am willing to bet they made profits on each system sold yet people still bought them even with all the other competing digital devices which may have done more. This paraells the Wii in that it is competing within the console industry but has done something different to set it self apart hoping that this new take on gaming will create a new market within that will hopefully grow.  

[Strell]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Wii console sales give retailers a higher profit margin than competition

« on: October 16, 2006, 09:47:00 PM »

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Originally posted by: Strell
So it's profitable for Nintendo and gives bigger profit to retailers?

You know, there's something wrong or off here, but I am not in the position to speculate upon it effectively.

Well we have to remember it really was never confirmed that the Wii was profitable for Nintendo, Reggie's statements could have been interpreted differently, maybe in reference to the cost of materials without taking into account the money that is lost on the bundled game. Nintendo 64 seemed to be profitable for Nintendo though, and I have no doubt that retailers also made a small profit as well, yet no one complained. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this in a business sense, it happens in about every technology where the manufacturer makes a profit and the retailer does as well, ESPECIALLY for companies who have products that are trying to diffentiate themselves from the competition which required a greater investment in R&D.

[Smash_Brother]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 04:36:13 PM »

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I don't care if Nintendo makes money: that's the fundamental basis of all capitalism.

I care that I get what I pay for.

You know when I first heard about the 250$ I was outraged, and now admit I was dead wrong. After knowing more about the Wii I am actually pleased by what I"m getting for the 250$. Not only do I get 512mbs built in, but also a game, internet browser, media player of sorts (that may be used for custom soundtracks), potential external HD compatibility, built in Wifi, and all the Mii channels. All that in addition to the unique gaming experiences doesn't seem so bad after all a much better deal than previous Nintendo consoles.

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TalkBack / RE:EB Games Wii Pre-Orders - Extremely Limited Quantities?

« on: October 16, 2006, 04:28:11 PM »

What Smash said is right, I do have a preorder but I would like other Nintendo fans to get a chance to get ahold of a Wii at launch and feel if they don't preorder they should camp out for a bit, not sure how that is me not wanting someone to get a Wii it is just recommending that people be safe since this launch could be unpredictable. Also I want to save the people here from having to buy a Wii from me when I sell them on ebay for profit .

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Sensor Bar

« on: October 16, 2006, 04:12:05 PM »

Well doesn't it technically sense where the Wimote is moving (not 3D but more pointer style)? If it didn't sense anything I don't see how it would be any use . Heck my wireless optical mouse has to have something to sense that when it moves.

[Kairon]

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 04:07:35 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Yeah IceCold, here's hoping that all these cancelled Cube games, as well as all these slightly pushed back games keep the momentum going.

Wario Ware was pushed back to January or February 2007, Metroid was pushed back to likely the same date. We're all hoping that Mario Galazy hits 6 months after launch, and the same for Sonic, which is a Spring launch right? Then after that, let's hope that Strikers Charged and BWii arrive on time, not to mention Pokemon Battle Revolution...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

I feel so ashamed about getting the Wii launch date wrong and I have it in my signature too! Grrrr, anyway good posts from both of you guys. This may sound strange but I think we should make an extra effort to support the 3rd party games this holiday season even if, heaven forbid, the bigger ones like Red Steel or Madden don't turn out to be stellar. If those games are supported heavily I think the 3rd parties will start flocking to Wii. In regards to a drought, I think Kairon has shown that there isn't that much to worry about in the way of droughts, there are so many hot titles coming out fairly consistently, though my guess is that we will see a short drought from July to late august but that happens with ALL the systems.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 11:23:08 AM »

Pap is right you can stretch that logic to any stupid thing they want to put in the system that jacks the price up if it is still worth the sum of its parts. Maybe Sony should axe the PS3 and build it into a Mercedes or something for 50,000$ that would be a heck of a deal and obviously justifies the price since they get more right?

[pap64]

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TalkBack / RE:EB Games Wii Pre-Orders - Extremely Limited Quantities?

« on: October 16, 2006, 11:17:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: pap64
40 dollars for the Wiimote itself is pretty good, considering all the crap it has inside.

What drives it over the edge is the 20 dollar attachment. I mean, couldn't they have bundled the two together and charge either 40 or 50 bucks for it? I mean, there are games that pretty much require the nunchuck, so might as well include alongside the Wiimote. *Shrugs

Nintendo will probaly suck off the early adopters then package them together for 50$. I do find it funny though that the nunchuck has basically the same technology as the sixaxis .

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 11:14:47 AM »

I too think Nintendo has solved most of their problems, which I think is emphasized by the sucess of the DS against a tough competitor like PSP (or was once a tough competitor). Nintendo is finally realizing they can't hide in their own little shell and create games just for their fanbase, but have to expand out to 3rd parties along with creating games that will attract new gamers.

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Nintendo Gaming / Wii console sales give retailers a higher profit margin than competition

« on: October 16, 2006, 11:12:36 AM »

Supposedly this is what Comp USA will get profit wise for Xbox 360 and Wii. It doesn't list PS3, nor am I sure this is legit but interesting none the less. So I guess when we try to determine the "worth" of the Wii as it pertains to development costswe should look at the 237$ figure and not the 250$ one.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 11:07:41 AM »

In regards to Xbox 360, I think we are forgetting they had HUGE shortages even into Aprile or May, so the contributed alot to the poor sales. Now that MS has enough units to sell I think this Christmas season should be used as a measurement of how well it is doing, not the previous months where shortages didn't rectified until far after Christmas.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 10:52:53 AM »

About Blu-ray and HD-DVD I heard something about a developer creating a chip that will allow you to use both formats. PErsonally I think that is where this will head, they will end up combining and the silly fight will be over with.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Steven Kent: "Nintendo is like a wonderful old friend who has a drinking problem."

« on: October 16, 2006, 10:51:28 AM »

Again I say whether something is worth it or not is all about perception, I think the new game experiences I am getting for Wii is worth the 250$. Maybe the parts inside didn't cost 250$ (though that is still in debate) but the worth that I think I will get out of it will more than make up what I will be getting out of the PS3 with features I DO NOT WANT along with not much to look forward to in games, when Afrika is the game I am most interested in, there is a problem. Again I point out that Nintendo is trying to differentiate itself trying to make the Wii unique and that strategy usually does not give you a cheap price tag because of development along with marketing costs. MS and Sony are more going for the cost-less strategy where there is little innovation but you are getting more in the way of features for your buck.