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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Nintendo Event September 14th
« on: September 13, 2006, 03:31:11 PM »
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Originally posted by: VGrevolution
Well I do think there is a good chance for Kid Icarus since he is in Smash Brothers, it has been so long since we've seen him in a game it makes little to no sense to have him be a playable character without a game to back him up.
How're you enjoying your Ice Climber DS?

Yeah, I didn't think so.  :P

The Ice Climbers were in Melee and we still haven't seen a return of them.  And if I had to guess, I think more people know who Pit is before seeing that he is a Smash Brother than the Ice Climbers.

Anyway, I'm not nixing the idea of another Kid Icarus game, and demand for it means a game is possible and even likely.  It'll probably be for next year, though, don't want to drown out his comeback with Zelda and Metroid this year!

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General Gaming / RE:Just joined the 360 club
« on: September 13, 2006, 03:14:46 PM »
I enjoyed the PC version of Tomb Raider: Legend.  Lara Croft is actually hot now.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Events thread
« on: September 13, 2006, 02:58:53 PM »
Every time Bill freaks about something I imagine it's his avatar saying it.

Another hour?  But I'll be having dinner then!

You know that Nintendo news fills me up better than food!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Jill Valentine To Return In Resident Evil Wii!?!
« on: September 13, 2006, 01:07:50 PM »
Jill is my second favorite Valentine.  My favorite Valentine is Stacy.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:When's the Wii launch date?
« on: September 13, 2006, 09:46:00 AM »
No you won't.  Smash Brothers never kill anyone!

Oh, wait, we're playing Stamina Mode?  o_0  *runs*

But again, I stress...the revelation of the release date doesn't make it any closer or farther.  It just tells you in advance which day to cancel all your other priorities.  

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Haven't seen much in this thread lately, so how about this?

Nintendo Wii Fanboy is saying the latest rumour is that Wii Sports is disappearing from pre-order lists - because the Wii will be bundled with it!  (Or that it will be bundled with the Wii, whichever.)

Supposedly this somehow makes up for a lack of the classic controller, which sounds rumourriffic!  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Nintendo Event September 14th
« on: September 13, 2006, 07:35:46 AM »
I live in Edmonton, Mountain Time.  (For an American reference, that's the same time zone as Denver.)  We're 16 hours behind Tokyo, so 10:00 there tomorrow is 6:00 PM here tonight.  So we'll definitely know what's going on as of tonight.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:When's the Wii launch date?
« on: September 12, 2006, 06:11:09 PM »
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Remember our deal; if it launches before I get to change your title!


Huh?  What would you change it to?

I want a cool title.  Maybe something like "unlike a mad woman's breakfast around the TV" or something.

GO Nov. 12th!  We should set up one of those gambling thingies.  A pool or whatever.  Yeah.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:When's the Wii launch date?
« on: September 12, 2006, 05:28:51 PM »
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Originally posted by: Pale
I still think it's going to be November 19th.


I say 12th.

Pale, if the Wii comes out earlier than you predict, will you still pick one up no earlier than the 19th because you're that adamant about it?  :P


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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Fun With Math ...
« on: September 12, 2006, 05:01:39 PM »
Especially since there would probably be a lot of people who want to touch Wiis before stuffing them into boxes, so they wouldn't need to be paid much to be motivated to do so.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:When's the Wii launch date?
« on: September 12, 2006, 04:48:23 PM »
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
I'm about to go all in...


I'm so sure that I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is! If the Nintendo W¡¡™ doesn't launch "somewhere" between September 24th and September 25th, 2006 I will buy 1 launch title or 2 DS titles for anyone who dares to take my challenge (up to 2 people, I'm not rich).
Why are the Is in your "Wii" lower?  Subscript or whatever?

Does the Wii =/= W¡¡?

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What about games that do have saves?  Perhaps you want more.  Maybe just four saves (or however many there were) in Secret Of Mana isn't enough!  Maybe you want as many as you want, limited only by the medium that you're saving your games on!

See?  Change is tempting.

EDIT: Then again, infinite saves can be achieved by copying and renaming files, which should hopefully be achieveable simply because of the use of SD cards which can be read on a PC.

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I seem to recall that Super Metroid's default fire button was X, which everyone that I know changed to Y anyway.  That was a strange choice.

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I go back and forth on this.  If it something like Super Mario AllStars where the changes are graphical enhancements and not much else, I am ok with it.  (Though perhaps an option to play the original would be nice.)


This brings up two issues:

1. The appeal of some old games (particularly the 2D games) are their graphics.  I'd bet that more people have nostalgic feelings for the NES Super Mario Bros. games than the Super NES All-Star rereleases.

2. Then the next issue is about the rereleases that have already been made - Super Mario All-Stars, as you mentioned, and there are a few others, I think, like Ninja Gaiden Trilogy.  There's also two versions of Super Mario All-Stars, one that includes Super Mario World as well.

Personally, I'd not make All-Stars+World available, as it's a compilation of sorts, including the already available All-Stars versions of games and Super Mario World while still on the Super NES.  (For example, it's not necessary to include the standalone Super Mario Bros., the Super Mario Bros. that came with Duck Hunt, and the Super Mario Bros. that came with Duck Hunt and World Class Track Meet.  Similarly, Donkey Kong Classics has Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr., and I think it might have Donkey Kong Jr. Math, but I would release the three games only separately.)  But about All-Stars...should that be released at the regular Super NES game price, or should you get a discount if you already have the NES games downloaded?

And then what about Sonic & Knuckles?  That was a Genesis game cartridge, but it also acted like external cheat devices do - and could have the Sonic The Hedgehog games plugged into that - to play those old games with enhancements, most notably including the ability to play Knuckles in them.  So would "Sonic 2 & Knuckles" become available for free if you buy both Sonic & Knuckles & Sonic The Hedgehog 2?  It really should.  It's easy enough with the cartridges, but is it going to require an extra download or something?  I guess that's more of an oddball scenario than being related to compilations and remakes, though.

Here's another one while I'm at it - how about renaming Final Fantasy II and III to their proper numbers, IV and VI?

There are plenty of scenarios, and Ian's right, most would be determined on a case by case basis.  I expect those would be based on fan support and if they're worth releasing in certain ways.

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General Gaming / RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« on: September 12, 2006, 04:55:41 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Thats if you get close enough and don't get smited by his greatness or SeaMonster... Gotta love the SeaMonster...


I was going to make a topic about "how close have you gotten to Reggie", if only to brag about the only semi-lame photo I have of him.  Standing in line at Nintendo's booth at E3, after getting past the walls around the perimeter and actually in it now, about where one could chat with Charles Martinet on those two-way conversation screens, Tina Wood from G4 had just walked by, apparently hurried with something, and then Reggie walked by going the other way, talking with some other important-looking guy.  I reached for my camera and went to take a picture, but by the time I did, they both had walked past so the picture is of them from behind.  It's still less than a few feet away, so it's still the closest visual proof that I was near the now-President of America.

Nintendo has Miyamoto and Reggie and Iwata.  Sony has Kaz and Kutaragi.  Is there any wonder people like Nintendo more than Sony?

Heck, you'd think Nintendo would be a great place to work overall.  It makes me wonder why high-profile Nintendo people like Ken Lobbs and Howard Philips (yes, the one who created and hung out with Nintendo Power's own Nester) moved on to Microsoft.  >_<

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumored list of Virtual Console games at launch
« on: September 11, 2006, 06:05:10 PM »
GoNintendo says to add these Sega games (though I guess Sonic was already on there):

Altered Beast
Ecco The Dolphin
Columns
Golden Axe
Ristar
Sonic the Hedgehog
Toe Jam & Earl


Something about them added to the ESRB web site.  Though I thought some of these would've had an ESRB rating already (because of rereleases, and I'm sure Ristar was K-A which is the equivalent of E now)...unless the point was that ESRB said they were for the Wii somehow...I didn't really look at the details, but I provided the link above.

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General Chat / RE:Has anyone gone to the Video Games Live concert?
« on: September 11, 2006, 05:27:58 PM »
Yeah, I would've surely put Metroid on there.  Oh well, maybe it's something to look forward to if they can make this more than just a one-time event.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Fun With Math ...
« on: September 11, 2006, 05:03:28 PM »
We know: there's a job listing calling for 150 people to pack Wiis.
We don't know: the actual launch date.

We suspect it to be in a particular launch window, of course, as early as October and as late as November...not very big, to be honest...and Rick's shown how mathematically it seems quite feasible for them to get over a million units ready for that date, whenever it is.

Which is nice, and all, but was there ever a concern?

I don't remember Nintendo ever having any major hardware shortages...oops, except for DS Lites - particularly in Japan...  Still, I don't see how or why Nintendo would be like Sony or Microsoft and not have enough for demand.  Perhaps that's too much faith in Nintendo but they have a good track record, unless my memory is bad.

Then again, like with the DS Lite, who knows what the demand is, what with all the Wii hype (and insane PS3 price and other dehyping) this year...perhaps there will be shortages.

Darn...this topic is making me again want to pre-order.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumored list of Virtual Console games at launch
« on: September 11, 2006, 03:43:31 PM »
I agree with the slow, spaced-out releases...but for a start, I just think that's a little weak.

Maybe because I've played nearly all of them before?  Some several times over that I'm not sure I'd even download them?  That could be it.  There's already 26 in that list, before adding the 5 apparently all-new games.  31.  Fifty honestly isn't a lot more IMO.

Depending on how many games they can eventually get their hands on, fifty may actually be a really small fraction.  Considering the NES library has about 700 official games, and then there's the Super NES, Genesis, TurboGrafx 16, Nintendo 64...(you know, they really should get the Master System and Neo-Geo in there too, IMO...)  And even if they can't get them all, there will still be a lot of totally new games.  I'm actually kind of surprised there are already five.

Again, assuming this is true.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumored list of Virtual Console games at launch
« on: September 11, 2006, 03:31:54 PM »
I've expanded and moved the Mortal Kombat (and other games) convern over here in this thread so that we can stop derailing this topic with my concern that I brought up.

I think the list is kind of a given...it's hard to say the source is wrong.  Maybe wrong in the sense that it was just made up, but the reason why I wouldn't say it's outright wrong is that those games are likely to show up on the Wii at some point.

(It's kind of like if I guess the Wii launch date before Nintendo announces it and just happens to be correct just by coincidence.  I'd be right, but the source is iffy, since it was just a guess with no official connection.  However, right is right...isn't it?)

There are lots of other games that we all expect to see, and I'm sure a lot of the big-name games will make it.  If the VC is successful (and I have no doubt) then it's really a question of if they'll have games from particular dead companies, or those that require special hardware (like Gyromite's R.O.B.).

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As I mentioned in the topic about the rumoured list of Virtual Console launch games, I had some ideas about Mortal Kombat, but I thought that instead of continuing on that thread and essentially derailing it, that I'd make another topic discussing possible alterations to classic games.

The Mortal Kombat issue in question is that Nintendo had never seen such atrocity before, and so the first game was altered - essentially censored.  There was no blood, and Fatalities were changed.  The Genesis had blood (or a code that enabled it, I believe), as well as the more gruesome Fatalities.  The problem was that the Genesis had worse controls and worse graphics.  So would you want to download both?  Would they even have both available or just one or the other?  Now I had mentioned that the ideal version would be a Super NES-like one with the blood and Fatalities intact.  (That is until Ian reminded me that the original arcade game would be best.  Perhaps Nintendo can get a hold of a few arcade games, but they probably wouldn't make a big deal about it unless they can get a lot.)

Now, in The Legend Of Zelda, the villain is named Gannon - with three Ns, two in the middle.  In the rereleases of The Legend Of Zelda (Animal Crossing, Collectors Edition, GBA NES Classics) this has been changed to Ganon (two Ns, only one in the middle) to coincide with the correct spelling according the the other games in the series.  Surely no one's going to be concerned if they go back and fix a few spelling errors, right?  But then what about the Engrish-that's-so-bad-it's-still-somehow-funny-to-some-people like in the opening of Zero Wing for the Genesis?  Or, a more spelling-related-yet-still-likely Engrish thing like the classic "I FEEL ASLEEP" line from Metal Gear?  (Metal Gear also had a password that took you to the end that included a swear word - THE word that begins with F - removing that now means you have to use another password or *gasp* play the game again.)

Story retcons would be possible, but should they be?  Would it matter much that the world didn't end in 1997 as predicted by the NES version of Crystalis (I forget what the GBC version said) or that Lavos didn't awaken in 1999 according to Chrono Trigger (I forget which year Chrono Cross came out in)?  Would you get as much thrill from not killing a guy (even though you fought him the same way) just so that they could better explain how he comes back in a sequel? (As an example, I had hoped that Metroid: Zero Mission, being a retcon of Metroid, would have Ridley, Kraid, and the Mother Brain all escape instead of die, thus avoiding the unnecessarily unrealistic (IMO) revival of all of them in Metroid Prime/Super Metroid.  However, it's already been established in Metroid Prime that they are "revived", so perhaps death is still necessary for continuity.  And then, on a related note (or maybe not), how would you market this?  I'm sure some of you would argue with me, but the Metroid Prime series, taking place between Metroid: Zero Mission (which replaces Metroid) and Metroid II: Return Of Samus, should make those three games all part of "Metroid 1" (also because Prime means first), since Metroid: Zero Mission implies that it's now "Metroid 0".  Thus, the NES Metroid, though first released and knocked out of continuity, shouldn't they advertise it as the original zeroth game in the franchise, not the original first game?  OMG - arguments against basic numbers will likely ensue!  Back on a related note - shouldn't Samus make at least ONE comment about her adventures in the Metroid Prime games in her recap at the beginning of Super Metroid?  Some events have nothing to do with what will happen in Super Metroid, but you'd think she'd at least make a passing comment about Ridley being a continuous pain.

Going back to The Legend Of Zelda, and related to killing... in the gold cart version of Ocarina Of Time, Link slashes Ganon in the face to finish him off.  He spews red blood.  Supposedly in the later-released grey cart version of the game, this has been changed to green or something less disturbing.  Perhaps someone can remind me what the rereleases of this game (Wind Waker preorder bonus disc, Master Quest, Collectors Edition) have.  Which should be included in the VC version of the game?  Again, it doesn't matter a ton, even for the visceral effect, certainly less than Ganondorf getting the Master Sword right in his head in his human form in Wind Waker but if you change that, what else is open for game designers to go back and change?  If Spielberg can go back and edit E.T. so that a character has a walkie-talkie instead of a gun, and that causes some controversy, then maybe game developers might go back and change weapons entirely, which could then be of "Han/Greedo shot first" retcon controversies.

Do you like games exactly as they were - straight up ROM code put through official emulators - or do you open them up for change?  Online multiplayer, spelling fixes, that's cool.  But if they can be changed, then how far can they change the games before they're not the same anymore?    

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Nintendo Event September 14th
« on: September 11, 2006, 01:07:54 PM »
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Originally posted by: RickPowers
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Originally posted by: UncleBob
"One Piece at a Time" is a classic Country song by Johnny Cash.  The story is that, while working at a factory assembling Cadillacs, "he" (not Johnny Cash, but the person in the song) got the idea to steal him a Cadillac - one piece at a time - and put it together at his home, getting himself a free Cadillac.

The reference was that someone should get hired on for this job and steal them a Wii, one piece at a time, from the factory.


I wonder if the guy walking out with a windshield in his pants raised any suspicion ...


You could drive around to the back and get a faulty/broken windshield from the dumpster.  Then you could have a complete Cadillac - albeit with a few broken parts - and take that to an auto shop and just get those parts repaired or replaced for a small fraction of the cost of the whole vehicle.

The Wii being as small as it is, could probably be smuggled out whole once, which would probably have a higher success rate than smuggling out a few parts each time for a number of times.

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I suppose it COULD be fun to have.

If only to say "my Wii is equipped with Thrustmaster!"

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumored list of Virtual Console games at launch
« on: September 11, 2006, 12:16:02 PM »
I'm sure games will be added as time goes on, whenever more developers jump on board.  Games like Super Mario Bros. 3 that will surely do well could be released later with their own small amount of hype to maintain interest in the Virtual Console.  Maybe they'll release games on a schedule, like the first of every month, and within each batch would be one or two major must-have classic games (like Super Mario Bros. 3), so that the best games don't take away too much attention from each other by being there all at once.

And about Ian's response to my question about Mortal Kombat - yeah, arcade ports would be nice.  I could actually see that happening with certain games, MK included.

Nintendo and MAME...now that would be unlikely, but orgasmic if ever possible.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Rumored list of Virtual Console games at launch
« on: September 11, 2006, 11:36:18 AM »
Good start, but as a rumoured list anything similar is just as likely.

Personally, I would hope that it would have closer to 50 for a start, spanning not only the various consoles included but also the various genres.

Now, will Mortal Kombat be the Super NES one with the good controls, or the Genesis one with blood and more gruesome fatalities?  I don't see why we would have to have only one, or one or the other.  Why not a special version of Mortal Kombat with Super NES graphics and controls but including Genesis gore?  

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