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You're crazy if you think the PS4 surpasses the Wii, and downright insane if you think it gets anywhere even close to the DS. There's definitely a market for consoles, but mobile has eaten into the demographics that got Wii and DS where they were.

really so who was buying Ps2 consoles? That sold better than Wii.

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  For all we know a lot of casual gamers did "graduate"... and then bought a PS4 instead of a Wii U.

Maybe, inasmuch as they were kids with a Wii in the house (or had a DS), got interested in videogames, wanted mainstreamy/"core" stuff, picked up PS4s when they had the chance as adults. But the DS sold 150 Million units, the Wii 100 million. There's no way in hell anything now, even PS4 and WiiU and Vita and XBone combined, will touch that kind of penetration. The PS4 is selling well, but even Sony is confused about why it's succeeding as much as it is. I think it's because there's a pretty rigid audience of 20-40 year olds (majority male) who grew up with video game consoles, playing console-type games, and now have disposable income to drop on new systems and a weirdly ingrained cultural identification with this specific formulation of the medium (more so than there were at the outset of the PS360 gen).

Anyway, my point is I think the console space is set to become a large but calcified niche, which will attract less and less business enthusiasm given corporate growth priorities. Kids growing up now on tablets and phones aren't going to care about the console space in the same way. If anything Nintendo did great work in easing the "casual" audience into motion-controlled interactive media with the DS and Wii, only for them to inevitably turn to smart phones. I guess in summary I suspect the long-term history of video games is going to look at consoles and what we think of as "real" games as interesting dodos, unequipped to survive contact with invaders from the blue ocean.


I disagree with everything you said. Consoles have always existed as a niche of the larger market, have you never heard of Arcades, that is the market mobile replaced not consoles. PS4 is not only going to sell well it is going to blow past Wii and DS sales numbers before this generation is done. Maybe the reason PS4 is selling so well is it does everything right and hasn't compromised on anything. The games will just naturally gravitate to it and eventually the sales will continue to rise.

Even if you take blue ocean out of it, the console space as a whole has not changed much in terms of raw numbers, if anything its growing not declining.


PS2+Xbox+GC sold a combined number roughly 196 million total. Last gen sold a combined total of roughly 340 million and counting. That is *just* consoles not counting handhelds and so far PS4 has blown past Dreamcast, Game Cube, and original Xbox lifetime sales. Well they maybe have another month to go for that last one but they will surely do better than PS3 did which is sitting around 80+ million and counting as of right now. Hell PS3 still has a chance to top Wii life time sales if it keeps selling, which doesn't look like Sony wants to kill it any time soon. Playstation consoles are famous for their incredibly long life spans, Nintendo consoles are not so much.


Steam Machine is gearing up to expand the console space as well as it will combine PC and console into one unit, something Xbox and Playstation have been sort of attempting for years. Society as a whole might be gravitating towards mobile in large numbers but as the worlds population increases so does the gaming population. Its not like in the 90's where gaming was a niche today it is pretty mainstream and consoles do a LOT more than play video games, well unless you stick ONLY to Nintendo consoles and then they barely do more than just video games and well sometimes they barely do video games.

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Nintendo Gaming / Speculate new game ideas for mobile platform
« on: March 18, 2015, 06:04:27 PM »
Its still a new announcement but why not. Post your ideas for game ideas you would like to see.




I do not play games on my phone so I have no idea what that market is even like so I am going in blind here.


What I am imagining would be like the mini games they used to have in DS games like the Mario games had. Maybe a Wario Ware type game not a straight port but a collection of the most "mobile" friendly mini games or something like that?


I am thinking some stuff along the lines of NES Remix would be doable but they would have to do more than just pick out challenges from the existing games they would have to really tweak them for touch controls.

A new Mario vs. DK similar to the one they just released would be fine too.


Any other ideas?


All I read about online are endless jumpers and candy crush clones. I don't really know what either of those mean so have no comment but they do not sound fun to me.


Make a virtual Nintendo land theme park or something where you can store all your trophies and achievements from past games in one place in a virtual world similar to Animal crossing or PS Home something like that?

A new touch Dr. Mario game would be fine too.

How about a simple Zelda dungeon crawler done in NES style graphics but you use only the touch screen and the game puzzles are all touch related? I am not sure how this would work but it would be interesting to see them come up with something.

There will need to be a "New Super Mario Touch" or something that is tailored for this device that sells you on the Mario game play, or reminds you how awesome it is, and entices you to try out the real deal latter maybe?

In App purchases that tie to your unified account connected to your console and DS device is also mandatory I would think.


They could do a really neat Ice Climbers game that goes on forever.


I am out of ideas at the moment who else wants to speculate? Also would we move discussion of these games, platforms into the hand held forum or is it okay to leave here? This is going to be an interesting few months.

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That's not what's going to happen though. Nintendo will make their next piece of hardware with Nintendo in mind and every element of their business (with the exception of QoL, maybe) will interact with each other. If 3rd parties aren't going to work on Nintendo games because Japanese devs are switching to mobile and Western devs are apathetic then they're leveraging mobile and QoL to help offset the loss of profits from 3rd parties.

If you want to paint a doomsday scenario around this then you can say Nintendo is bracing for a sea change in core game development in a different way than Sony or Microsoft. Those 2 want to be the all everything in your living room because their video game division can't be just 100% about games either.

The health of Nintendo's core game business is better served by establishing a healthy, profitable mobile and QoL division rather than by moneyhatting third party software support (and by that I mean catering much of their hardware development to third parties that already have trouble developing for 2 consoles, much less 3).



All fine for Nintendo and their investors, but as a gamer I don't a give a **** what their profit margins are all I care about is do they make games I want to play. If this means more money to make games and translates into a good synergy between their divisions leading to a larger base and subsequently more games then I am all for it. If this turns out to be a bunch of garbage mobile games taking the spotlight away from real games count me out. Wii U was a hard enough sell and 3DS is not even on my radar.


I have not made up my mind if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet. Like Ian said I would be okay if they shoveled all their touch crap onto mobile platforms and then left the dedicate gaming machines to focus on dedicated games I would be happy, but doing that limits your audience and further gimps the hardware making it an even harder sell to the casuals whose numbers are required to sustain the current model.

I have only ever purchased two games on my phone, both garbage, both sequels to established games and both were over priced at $5.

I want NX to be a successful return to Nintendo doing what they do best. If that means using mobile stuff as a way to leverage their IP in a manner that keeps them profitable and relevant than okay by me. I don't give a **** if 3rd parties come back I have a PS4 I don't need watered down ports on Wii U and I won't buy them on NX either.

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The Terminator goes Commando and kills a Predator while undercover as a Kindergarten teaching Cop.

That's not even mentioning him being 1 half of a set of Twins, which gives me a Total Recall to the True Lies of him being The Last Action Hero that likes to drink T 2.


now how many of those are 30+ years old man? Come on if you are going play try harder than that.

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What is the rat a reference to?



THE RAT was my Hip-Hop persona that I used to create rap music under. My most recent album was titled "Freedom of Speech" released in 2014. My techno/dance music was released under the name DJ Serial Killa. I have been in the market for a new persona but I haven't thought of anything good so I just resurrected animecyberrat from that account I originated on here so many years ago.

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NWR Forums Discord / Re: The chruch of Lucario
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:41:51 PM »
maybe he is dyslexic? That wouldn't explain it either.

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TalkBack / Re: Mario Party 10 (Wii U) Review
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:38:26 PM »
I keep hearing how great 9 is and since that is compatible with Wii U I might pick it up instead. All I want is online multiplayer is that a thing or not? Because I have literally nobody local to play with.

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Sounds like you would LOVE the SNES if you get a chance to pick out some of the gems. Don't limit yourself to Virtual Console though the real gems are nowhere to be found on that service. While I do love VC and am totally addicted to it, there are far too many great games lacking on the service.



Steam is a good place to grab some 16 but Sega classics, especially the Streets of Rage, Sonic, Golden Axe games those are all great. I also strongly encourage people to check out stuff like Toe Jam and Earl 1 and 2 I prefer two but most prefer one, they are both good in their own ways.


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General Gaming / Re: I am making a game, Super Push Adventure!
« on: March 18, 2015, 11:34:13 AM »
I work 6 days straight the next two weeks so this week is my off week I will try to get to it if I find time but chances are it will be a couple weeks out. Not making any promises.

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I still don't know anything about this show. Last time I watched it trash cans were killing people.


pretty much sums it up.

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I use gimmick in the sense that the controller is the selling feature, like with the Wii.  With the Wii and Wii U it's a trade-off.  You the consumer miss out on any of the benefits the competition's superior hardware provides but instead get the benefits of unique controller features.  Controller vs. specs.

I don't want that.  The videogame market during the Wii U's lifetime has not wanted that.  If the NX is the same thing it will fail.  Nintendo makes the best first party games of anyone.  The only real difference between Sony and MS is their first party exclusives.  Ironically that's a scenario where Nintendo would do really well with and yet for some idiotic reason they completely avoid that.  Nope, it's Nintendo's goofy controller and their first party games vs. Sony and Microsoft's first party games and 99% of all other console videogames being made.  It's always Nintendo vs. everyone else and no company does well in that comparison.  The whole strategy is stupid and really arrogant.  Make something normal, try to get the third parties back, and then it's Mario and Zelda vs. Uncharted and Halo.  That's a way more favourable comparison.



Normally I agree with Ian because yeah I want that too. BUT in all fairness Nintendo did not lose 3rd parties because they gimped their hardware, that problem goes all the way back to the NES/Famicom days. As a company nothing has changed. They honestly think their hardware exists exclusively to serve their purpose. I am starting to wonder if that was their plan all along, to prove they could carry a system single handedly and say piss off to everyone else. All the companies they were competing with both hardware and software wise are pretty much gone these days. Some how they do weird things and still manage to make enough money to stick around.

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General Chat / Re: Official Avatar Discussion
« on: March 17, 2015, 05:52:46 PM »
don't go to far back some of my old Avatars were terrible.

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Empire Strikes Back - Lando fucks the **** out of Leia




Only in the super secret original never released X rated cut that only exists as Beta Max bootlegs.

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So, I'm just going to keep posting and spit balling here. And why not? As Doctor Franklin "Hawkeye" Pierce, I am the star of the show. Everyone roleplay as fictional TV Doctors! Dr. Frasier Crane, Dr. Nick Riviera, George Clooney's character on ER. It will be great!

The Imperial Mafia didn't make a hit last night. This is especially surprising since there is the whole "Silenced" godfather clause in place. That means 3 things. 1. The mafia purposely chose not to make a hit (which I always think is a bad move.) 2. The godfather was away and the other mafia members didn't realize they could send in a hit. 3. All three mafia members were absent. Interestingly, there were 3 people absent from Day 1 and the time that roles have gone out.

Nuclearspeed
Ceric
Lolmonade

I would suggest that whoever is the detective may want to take a couple cracks at investigating that crew of people.

As for me, I'm not a Renegade mafia man as I wouldn't sacrifice another member to save myself. I'm not an Imperial Mafia man either though I wish I had more definitive proof in that regard except for the fact that there would have been a hit for sure if I was part of that group. I'm not the vigilante. I am just a humble townie. Honestly, I think the mafias need to worry about other players who actually have roles than humble me who is just trying to make my own deductions.

If anyone needs me, I'll be getting a martini in the Swamp.





They have Doctor Who on Netflix, Hulu Plus and Youtube, there is no excuse not to know anything about this show. Even the fake Inspector Spacetime from Community is close enough.

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I thought about that but such a person does not exist here.

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Stevey's vote confirms he is mafia.

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You know when you watch a scary movie and there is that guy that talks to himself and secretly knows what is going on while he watches everyone else die from having sex and then he just disappears half way through the movie only to return at the very end to save the day, that is me. Except when the big reveal was that was the killer all along. The only person I killed was Khush and took over his account to dupe you guys into liking me. So far it's not working out how I planned.

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I am opposite, I like 1 because it is the first and introduces the world so it gets a pass for being new. I enjoy 2 but what I dislike about and prefer 3 is the action and the Terminator stuff just seems more sci-fi than 1 or 2. They were good action movies but 3 was a good science fiction movie. 4 was depressing and dreary but I enjoyed that it showed more of the future world. What I hated about it was they through all the continuity out the window and said **** it lets just make the movie our way and pretend the other 3 never happened.


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General Chat / Re: Should I repor to Amazon?
« on: March 17, 2015, 05:02:19 PM »
Because I am an American, to us lazy *is* cool.

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An hour of baseless speculation about a news topic we barely understand at this moment? Count me in meh.


Isn't that all we do around here anyways?

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General Gaming / Re: What is your most recent gaming purchase?
« on: March 17, 2015, 04:57:44 PM »
That video is good at explaining the different ratios but it doesn't go into the process for converting wide screen film to fit a FS television. That was the problem the studios used two different methods the most common was Pan and Scan, which is always a terrible idea, and open matting, which is what they did with T3 and countless other movies if you actually do your home work. Just read difference between Pan and Scan vs. Open Matting.

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I see plenty of kids on Miiverse, so the notion that "kids don't play Nintendo games" is false. Also, a majority of people playing video games are teenagers and adults, and they're the main demographic of PlayStation, Xbox and Steam. Nintendo needs to reach out to everyone, not just kids OR adults.

Yeah, my daughter's 9 and her platform of choice is her 3DS.   She has her own Iphone, she has her own Ipad, but her top choice tends to be the 3DS.  Granted, she's my daughter, and when she walks into my office and sees my shelves and shelves of Nintendo games and systems, and when she sees my copy of Nintendo Force arrive in the mail every month, there's bound to be some artificial bias there.

But man, I checked her activity log the other day, and she's put 140 hours into Animal Crossing, 30 hours into Tomodachi Life, 10 hours into Disney's Magical World (not as big a hit), and 50 hours into Style Saavy.   It's almost embarassing for me, because I originally bought Animal Crossing for myself, I'm the mayor of our freakin town, but she schools me on that game constantly.   I've never even been to the island!


Yeah that is 3DS, NOT Wii U. Why is it so hard to realize Nintendo is trying to expand their band to sell more CONSOLES hand helds ALWAYS appeal to kids more nobody is arguing that.

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I still don't understand why everyone wants Nintendo to have just ONE console, instead of one portable and one home.   

I mean, sure, it would mean we're spending less money, because we're just buying 1 Nintendo device, as opposed to 2.

And it would SEEM like we're getting more games for said unified console, because all of Ninendo's development resources would be focused on one platform instead of being divided between supporting two.

But wouldn't that just be the same status quo as now?   Sure, the Wii U doesn't have a lot of games this year.  Neither does 3DS.  But with a unified console, we'd still just have the same amount of games.  Hell, maybe even less.   Some years we get 2 Zelda games in 1 year (Wind Waker HD and Link Between Worlds, for example).   That would NEVER happen on a unified console.



Because not everyone buys BOTH systems. Some of us pick one or the other. So we don't get TWO Zelda  games we get one. Sure hand helds are popular but consoles appeal to an entirely different demographic. It is the same old bullshit PC fans keep saying why even bother with consoles at all when everyone has a PC. Because there are different people with different tastes.

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Our ratings are simple we have

E for Nintendo fans
T for Sony Fans
M for Microsoft fans



Oddly enough the actual ages of these people are completely reversed.

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