bwaahaha, I know I said I'd leave, but I can't help but chime in one more time, as I was far from embarrassed. If anything, I felt pity for my opponents who have such a strange desire to defend such basic titles they know deep down they're really not in to. I used to do the same thing, back in 4th grade.
No, you got argued into a corner and started calling everybody names. Now you're trying to save face, somehow to the people you say you have no interest in speaking with. I have had disagreements with several people here, like broodwars and Ian Sane, but they've never resorted to rearranging my screenname into boorish attempts at insults like a 4th grader. Actually I have to give the 4th grade children of today a lot more credit. Most of the people I found during my Practicum for Psychology that still do this are emotionally stunted manchildren in their 20's, still reveling in the last days of their seemingly endless adolescence.
How many people on this forum are dying to play those third party games on the Wii compared to the 360/PS3 list (aside from Guitar Hero)? You just proved my point.
I think you just proved my point, because if you actually RESEARCHED these games, you'd see most were released in mid to late 2007, and for budget prices. If you look at Wii's top sellers as a whole, you'll see Nintendo's list of high quality titles (or at least in WiiPlay's case, high value titles.) This includes a fighting game, a platformer, and a swordity adventure games, as well as an online competitive racer. Nintendo applied themselves, made high quality games, and marketed them heavily and proudly. Thus, they reap the rewards, something in the range of billions of dollars while most third parties struggle.
And how many people aren't dying to play Carnival Games, you say? 50 million, because that's how many Wii owners DIDN'T buy carnival games. 94%. But apparently only 91% of 360 owners didn't buy Kung Fu Panda.
The third party games that sell are in the same bucket as Carnival Games while fabulous titles like Zack and Wiki, The Conduit, and Madworld rot 6 feet under. This is truly sad. It has nothing to do with the fact that gamers aren't interested in those titles, but everything to do with the fact they are vastly outnumbered by soccer moms and business men picking up the game with the neatest box art.
Yeah, like KDR says. Citation needed. Up to this point it's been research. Now we have stereotypical conjecture. And bringing up MadWorld, Conduit, and Zack and Wiki don't prove anything you want. Madworld and Conduit were published by Sega, and maybe did about 300,000 each, according to VGC, whose accuracy is debatable but it's a good ballark figure for both. Two other games Sega released in the same time frame, Daisy Fuentes and Let's Tap, an exercise game and a minigame collection, apparently what Wii owners all crave, flopped hard, selling less than 100,000 combined. So
among Sega's games, the more more regular and traditional of their games did better than their focus-tested, "Wii demographic," "surefire" titles.
Zack and Wiki even proves this point further, selling 370,000, less than 1.3 million than Resident Evil 4, and less than 1 million than the retarded Resident Evil rail shooter. What was the point you are trying to prove again? Wii owners like cartoony adventure games less than M-Rated Zombie games? Qu'est-ce que c'est?
And furthermore, third parties will continue to make teh casual titles similar to the ones noted above, I never said they wouldn't. I said they have not given up on the Wii, they just given up on "hardcore" titles, which is really all that matters to the folks on this forum.
But that's just it, they shouldn't still make "teh casual" games, because they don't sell on the Wii now, and they never really did THEN, either. So there's no real financial incentive except to make easy money on duping an ever-shrinking base of Wii owners gullible enough to buy their shoestring budget garbage. But even this easy money isn't attractive enough put next to Nintendo's profits. Why are they not emulating Nintendo, at the very least in effort?
In terms of 3rd parties its the cheap casual games that rule the Wii, while the titles we really want sit on the bench.
Right, in terms of third parties. In terms of Nintendo, Zelda, Mario, Smash Brothers, and Mario Kart rule the roost of games, period and that includes titles on other platforms. Third parties are believing a false stereotype they created. But that doesn't mean it's the truth no matter how many times it is repeated.
You want to make a casual title, put it on the Wii, even once the other lotion controls come out (the same people who bought Carnival Games are not about to drop another $300 for mini games in HD) Thats pretty much all that will sell well on Wii for third parties, while creative "gamers games" are an absolute disaster on the Wii.
Again, I see Smash Brothers, Mario Kart, Mario Galaxy, and Zelda in the top ten Wii games with Carnival games nowhere in sight. Apparently even Wii owners don't drop down $200 for minigames at all. And the same was true for the DS when that stereotype was running around them too.
It sucks, and it frustrates me too, but its the truth. There's no sense in pretending all the third parties are involved in some sort of underground conspiracy.
Nobody ever said it was a "conspiracy." If I had to classify it, it would be a confederation of some third parties who dislike the Wii and some stupid third parties who will struggle financially by either consciously or unconsciously avoiding the market leader and believing false stereotypes.
Well, maybe it is, makes things more interesting.
Not really. It's actually quite irritating to hear that some third parties hate the Wii and that some would rather risk financial ruin than make games for the market leader.
Thats it, I'm done.
Nobody really cared the first 29387 times you pouted and left. Who should start now?
As you wish. Just watching the way D_Average debates irritates me.
You and me both, brother. Just imagine reading his next post where he'll be like:
What now, Juggaman? Your points don't matter so I'll sidestep the argument I started and call you a fanboy, call the rest of you on the forum fanboys, and pass Juggment on all you Juggamen, before I peace out. Got anything to say to that, jabroni? And what you got to say, ChoadWars? You try to insult me FoodSores? In society, people debate. You got that KurtCobainWars?
While everybody scratches their heads in bewildering confusion.
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