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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Tales of Symphonia: Scores.
« on: July 13, 2004, 06:04:22 AM »
Eh, sorry to burst your bubble, but it ships today- it won't be in stores until tomorrow.

I hate how they advertise ship dates, always getting our hopes up.

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General Gaming / RE:HALO & HALO II Discussion
« on: July 13, 2004, 04:37:45 AM »
Run and gun? Couldn't that clever little phrase be used to describe almost every FPS, Halo included? Halo doesn't require any more strategy than the next FPS, don't let the gun limit fool you- it's still your stock FPS, just with a bit higher production values. Timesplitters 2 has a plethora of multiplayer modes to choose from, from your general capture the bag and deathmatch to objective based assaults and even flame tag.  

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General Gaming / RE:HALO & HALO II Discussion
« on: July 13, 2004, 02:03:54 AM »
Halo has the sorriest excuse for multiplayer out of any recent console FPS- the dearth of modes is truly startling, and the maps lack complexity, or really interesting design period. It can be a lot of fun at times, but I see this in spite of the multiplayer options, not because of them. If you want a console FPS with an incredible multiplayer, pick up Timesplitters 2- it has more modes than even a lot of primarily multiplayer FPS's.  

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General Gaming / RE:Sony's PSP May Face Games Shortage
« on: July 13, 2004, 02:01:08 AM »
Read it again, Ymeegod:

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Still, Japan's four biggest independent gamemakers, Konami Corp., Capcom Co., Square Enix Co. and Koei Co., said they won't offer new games for the device.


Sega's the only one saying they don't think they can meet the deadline, the other 4 aren't planning any new games. Square-Enix isn't planning any games period.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Tales of Symphonia: Scores.
« on: July 12, 2004, 09:46:52 PM »
I don't mind random battles, but I like visible enemies soooooooo much more.

Of course, in RPG's like the Grandia series I end up attacking every enemy anyway.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Memory Card Rip-off
« on: July 12, 2004, 05:05:40 PM »
I'm good- my friend gave me a free memory card 251 in exchange for letting him borrow some games for a while.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mods
« on: July 12, 2004, 11:40:46 AM »
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Originally posted by: Bill
Oh great...Thanks to this mouse is attempting humor!  You curs!




Well, we can't ALL be comedians like Bill.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Mods
« on: July 12, 2004, 10:55:08 AM »
And he's too cool for you....uh.... 912 times! So there!

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General Gaming / RE:Sony's PSP May Face Games Shortage
« on: July 11, 2004, 11:57:07 PM »
Wow- this is a huge blow for the PSP. Japan's 4 biggest 3rd parties have all dropped support for the PSP. Square-Enix isn't making PSP games period, while they have, what is it, 3 DS games in the works? Even Sega isn't sure if they can make the launch deadline since Sony hasn't even shipped out final development kits yet. I imagine Sony's stock is going to take quite a hit from this news.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:XNA-Sony and Nintendo's doom?
« on: July 11, 2004, 08:45:20 PM »
Sensationalist titles attract readers.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 11, 2004, 06:10:58 PM »
He was joking, Mumei. Don't take anyone too seriously on this board, not even me. I may seem incredibly pissed at times, but I probably had a big grin on my face while typing it.

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Here's a wake-up call: today's Nintendo is hardly even the incredibly competent on-the-ball industry leading company they were during the NES and SNES years. If you think they're doing everything peachy now you're a fan of a different Nintendo anyway.


Who the hell cares? You've got some priority issues, Ian. I'm a fan of Nintendo's GAMES- you know, the things gamers play? Nintendo's philosophy towards games is no different than when they entered this business- THAT'S the Nintendo I'm a fan of and THAT Nintendo hasn't changed at all.  

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General Gaming / RE:Too Human exclusive to Xbox?
« on: July 11, 2004, 03:55:27 PM »
Last I had heard SA2:B had sold over a million copies. Or maybe it was shipped over a million- I can't remember now.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 11, 2004, 01:58:24 PM »
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Quote Nazi! You are not quoting a Sony exec. You are quoting Peter Moore, as a MS exec, flapping his gums in a cheap shot.


Peter Moore, didn't he used to work at Sega? Hmmmmm......  

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General Gaming / RE:Too Human exclusive to Xbox?
« on: July 10, 2004, 10:31:05 PM »
500,000 is not pathetic for any title- in fact, it's very good. Besides, I thought Eternal Darkness only sold 200,000 or so copies.

You want a better bit of trivia, though? Sonic Adventure 2: Battle outsold all Sega's XBox exclusives combined. If Sega's profits are doubling, it's certainly not because of their XBox games.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 10, 2004, 10:25:37 PM »
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I agree Nintendo's image isn't entirely their fault but they should be the ones to fix it. I barely ever see any gamecube specific commercials and I would say I watch a good amount of television.


You seem to have public awareness and image confused. People who think Nintendo is kiddy before aren't going to suddenly change their mind simply because there are more commercials on now.

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Your last sentence, Mouse, indicates that you don't understand business. It is money, and not your philosophies and ideals, that make the money go 'round.


I think the last sentence of my original editorial proved that a LOOOOOONG time ago. No, I don't understand business, but Nintendo understands it well enough to stick around longer than anyone else, and with only one quarterly loss, too. I do understand fun games, though, and Nintendo has never failed to continue delivering in that area. Keep in mind, too, I'm looking at this from a gamer's perspective, and the LAST thing on a gamer's mind should be business, while the FIRST thing should be the games. F*ck the sales statistics, just go enjoy your games.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 10, 2004, 09:02:43 PM »
The ONLY thing Nintendo should associate themselves with as far as I'm concerned is great games, and they've been doing that for 20 years. Nintendo is not a "hardcore" gamers' company, unless by hardcore gamer you mean those who judge games based on how fun they are to play, in which case Nintendo already IS a hardcore gamers' company and the problem is there aren't enough hardcore gamers. There's nothing wrong with the kind of games Nintendo makes now. Nintendo's image isn't THEIR fault and they shouldn't have to be the ones to fix it. If the public doesn't come around, their loss.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 10, 2004, 07:14:00 PM »
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C'mon you know better than that. It's worth caring about because if Nintendo goes broke then we don't get any more games from them and the industry is controlled entirely by non-gaming companies.


Indeed, that wouldn't be good at all- but my point is that, as far as I'm concerned, Nintendo has done more than they needed to in this industry and anything else they do is icing on the cake. If they went out of business tomorrow I'd be very sad but would consider their existence more than justified- they fulfilled their purpose.

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NWR Feedback / RE:Bigger avatars, nifty... but...
« on: July 10, 2004, 06:44:58 PM »
Seriously, that banner signature is making me nauseous.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:XNA-Sony and Nintendo's doom?
« on: July 10, 2004, 06:42:04 PM »
It's restrictions from publishers that generally create bad games. XNA will help alleviate that problem, but unless publishers stop being overbearing and concerned purely with sales and demographics, XNA won't do much of anything. At the very least it's a step in the right direction.

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General Chat / RE:Mr. Quaker: A Sinking Ship
« on: July 10, 2004, 05:54:05 PM »
Pft, if you guys want intelligent discussion you're not beyond creating some yourselves. It's no good to complain about lack of intelligent discussion and then refuse to start some on your own.

As for the mods, there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes, KN. Don't try to act all high and mighty and pretend like you're crusading against spam, especially when you're one of the largest propogators of it on this board yourself.  

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General Chat / RE:Mr. Quaker: A Sinking Ship
« on: July 10, 2004, 05:46:52 PM »
I've figured it out- your account was hacked. Your account was hacked and that's not the KN we all know and live in there.

This is too funny.

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General Chat / RE:Mr. Quaker: A Sinking Ship
« on: July 10, 2004, 05:42:58 PM »
This is the definition of irony, KN- you getting mad at Zoidberg for spamming. Oh god, this is hilarious.

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General Chat / RE:Mr. Quaker: A Sinking Ship
« on: July 10, 2004, 05:28:14 PM »
PLEASE tell me you're joking, KN. Because that is the funniest goddamn thing ever.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 10, 2004, 11:39:46 AM »
I'm done with you, mumei- I'm just rewriting my article. I have a back-to-basics philosophy when it comes to games, which means all I care about is the games. Maybe that's where we're clashing, but everything you're throwing out at me I've either already addressed in my article or one of the posts following it, and quite frankly I'm tired of repeating myself to someone who repeatedly misses my point. Maybe I'm not explaining it well enough, but all the same I'm done explaining it altogether.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:"The Trouble With Nintendo"
« on: July 10, 2004, 10:39:19 AM »
The point of the article, mumei, was that Nintendo is trying their hardest- yes they are making mistakes, but they're doing just fine. And you know what? Even if they AREN'T doing fine, who cares? Just play the games for godsakes and stop worrying about the sales statistics and the image problems. Gamers have become so "hardcore" now that they follow everything related to the industry and have lost site of the whole point, which is to play games. Now we judge games on their graphical quality, the depth of their story, the variety of the gameplay, the originality of the scenario, but when we were kids all that mattered was if it was FUN or not. Nintendo is still the same Nintendo they were when we were kids, we're just looking at them more critically than ever before. If we'd just learn to enjoy the games, none of this would matter.



I didn't want to have to explain the point of my article to you again because my article said it well enough. All your complaints about it were completely misconstrued.

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No one wants to buy the mediocre 3rd party game, but there are many, many third-party games that are just as good as any of Nintendo's offerings.


I never said ALL 3rd parties are bad, you simply assumed as much.

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I can understand not liking some of the PSX's more "mainstream" games, but the PSX definitely has its merits. Have you ever actually played one, or are you going off of hearsay? Go buy and play a game like Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Star Ocean 2, or Suikoden II and tell me that the third-parties are mediocre.


Read the first sentence of the paragraph you quoted:

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Then along came Sony- not to disrespect the advancements Sony has made for the industry, and they are improving, but they created a console (the Playstation) completely devoid of a stellar 1st party, or really a good 1st party at all, which meant half-assed crappy games could sell much better than before simply because the consumer didn't have a choice.


I'm not saying Sony has done no good- on the contrary, they brought the industry onto the disc medium, making it cheaper and easier to produce games. They also gave more control to the 3rd parties, who before were quite restricted, especially by Nintendo. And I do own Symphony of the Night- it's an incredible game. Again, I'm not saying ALL 3rd parties are bad, but you can't deny the incredible amount of them that ARE.

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And I am no fan of the X-Box, but it does have a games that are good; Panzer Dragoon Orta, Ninja Gaiden, Halo (it's alright >_>), The Chronicles of Riddick, etc. Can you explain this stance that the reason that third-parties do poorly on the GCN is because Nintendo is so much better?


Ugh, you're taking a very shallow look at this. Yes, the XBox does have a good games- I never said it DIDN'T. As for explaining myself on why 3rd parties do poorly on the Gamecube, read my article. I flat out TELL you several times, and I've repeated myself enough already.

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I've been a Nintendo fan for 12 years, and I can tell you point-blank that most people don't agree with you. Nintendo can and should cater to everyone, not just a set group. Nintendo claims that there games are for everyone, but they don't appeal to everyone. Nintendo really should take the time to create new franchises that target older gamers, and games like Geist show that they do know that they need to get more of the market.


You see, THIS is why I said you missed the point of my article. I've been a Nintendo fan for 13 years, so I must have seniority. ::rolls eyes:: And I can tell you that there are millions out there who do still love Nintendo.

And Nintendo shouldn't have to cater to anyone but themselves- they make games they think are the best possible, and if people don't like them, too bad. I don't want Nintendo targeting anyone, because when you start making a game with a certain demographic in mind, the creative decisions are overruled by the sales potential, which leaves you with a bad game. Nintendo never said their games would appeal to everyone, they simply said everyone can enjoy their games, they don't exclude anyone. That doesn't mean everyone is going to like Nintendo's games, although many do, it just means everyone has the potential to like them.

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Nintendo can do a lot to improve, and there is no excuse for not improving when you know what you should do to improve. You say that you are happy as long as Nintendo is making a profit? So is Nintendo. But they would be much happier if they were making a larger profit. They could be making more money in profits than Sony's Computer Entertainment Division does if they actually aggressively pursued people other than their core audience. They don't have to abandon their core audience to go after other groups as well.


You REALLY missed everything I was saying- I never said Nintendo couldn't improve, or shouldn't improve, just that if they don't improve I'm still happier than I ever though I'd be, and that's all that really matters. Most of all, I don't want them deciding against ideas they think will make the game better simply because it will hurt the sales. Case in point Crystal Chronicles- since Nintendo was funding the entire thing, Square went all out with the game. They did whatever they wanted because they didn't care if it would sell or not, since it wouldn't hurt them at all either way. That's why they had the balls to not only include but require the GBA connectivity. In the end Crystal Chronicles became one of the best Gamecubes yet, in my and many others' opinions, and it's because the motivation to make the game wasn't sales, it was quality. This is the way Nintendo always has been and hopefully always will be.



 

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