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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« on: May 21, 2007, 08:15:12 PM »
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Originally posted by: thatguy
Ok I'm convinced.  The music page was put up first to provide an idea of characters added.

Someone from Chrono Trigger, Xenosaga, Kingdom Hearts, Animal Crossing, MOTHER 3(!), Streets of Rage, NiGHTS, (more) Metroid characters, Contact(?), Pikmin, Fire Emblem, Golden Sun, and more are possibilities!  I don't think every game/series listed will see characters, but I bet that any musician listed for a non-Nintendo company has a character coming from at least one of the listed projects.  It only makes sense, I mean, look at the first musician on the list.  Metal Gear games are all over his list.  I can't believe it!  I know people are going to say there isn't much on the site, but this is HUGE! to me.  Absolutely amazing!


Yeah, it's an incredible list, and would indicate possibly way more third party characters than thought from earlier comments made on that blog way back. I mean, to take a few selections:

Yoko Shimomura       -  Kingdom Hearts series (Sora maybe?)
Yasunori Mitsuda       -  CHRONO TRIGGER / XENOGEARS (I'd die happy if Chrono was there)
Tomoko Sasaki       -  NiGHTS
Jun Fukuda -   killer7
Masafumi Takada -   killer7 (a character from Killer7 would be really bizzare... or maybe it would be from No More Heroes?)

Suprised nothing on the list seems to indicate Sonic, though...

Also, anyone check out the added music theme? Sounds... nice, although not as grand as I would have hoped for (I actually think I prefer the take on the melody from the original Melee more).

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« on: May 21, 2007, 08:02:42 PM »
It's still updating. Still 2007 release date, and now the old two videos are up. Hopefully more to come.

EDIT: Or maybe I just missed that the first time? They seem to only appear on the home page.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« on: May 21, 2007, 07:55:54 PM »
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Originally posted by: Khushrenada
The site is live.


Damn, beaten to it...

EDIT:

Wow, there is like nothing up there. So the main stage looks like it has different appearances based on the time of day.

Oh, but check this out... that's a HUGE list of video game music talent there:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music01.html

I mean, some of the selected past work is very... interesting. Killer7, NiGHTS, Chrono Trigger, Kingdom Hearts, Streets of Rage, Ape Escape 2 (...the hell?)

Wonder how they are going to work in all that musical talent, and why they went to such lengths as well.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:Let's put Bill to the test
« on: May 21, 2007, 05:04:48 PM »
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Dang, Bill is good at this.


I'll say... should be a rule as to one remark per person per post, though... KDR did some massive overkill there. Anyway, here is a stumper, and a great quote in general:

Abortions for some... miniature American flags for others!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« on: May 21, 2007, 03:35:39 PM »
$5 says that if they announce Wi-Fi as being for two players at a time only, people on here will go ape$hit till they are blue in the face and this topic will crack three digits in page #s in a matter of days.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« on: May 21, 2007, 08:08:23 AM »
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Originally posted by: Dryden
Note: I hold onto the belief that no characters will be cut, since SSBB is being built from the code for SSBM, so there's no reason characters couldn't make it in.  Even Ice Climbers.


I expect some of the clones to be left on the cutting room floor, in particular Dr. Mario, Pichu and Roy. Just a guess, though.

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General Gaming / RE:Blizzard is doing their big shindig in Korea right now [StarCraft 2 announced!]
« on: May 20, 2007, 11:10:32 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ceric
It seems like only the Protoss is getting anything truly new.


The rocket pack-enhanced Terran units look "new" to me... and certainly add a new element.

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Also the graphics don't look notable impoved.


When was the last time you played StarCraft? The difference is night and day between the first/Broodwars and what has been seen of the second. A huge improvment over WarCraft III's look as well.

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NWR Forums Discord / RE:She honest and straightforward than most US women
« on: May 10, 2007, 09:27:39 AM »
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Originally posted by: thatguy
I hear that between diamonds and pearls, pearls are harder to find.


It's because everyone wants Palkia...


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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: May 03, 2007, 10:42:42 AM »
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Originally posted by: capamerica
Second, As I have stated over and over and OVER again, copyrights mean sh!t. Nintendo held most of Rare's copyrights and Nintendo didn't keep any of their series. And before you say "well Rare was a special case" show me 1, just 1 example of where a developer leaves its publisher and does NOT take their series with them.


One example? How about Naughty Dog then? Bought by Sony in 2001, they are the people who developed the Crash Bandicoot series. Universal, who published the titles and also owned them in the copyright that "means sh!t" ended up taking the franchise.

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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
The bottom line:
Nintendo doesn't need to pay millions of dollars to Banco for something they could have gotten for free.


It has happend before in the industry (Retro with Nintendo, Naughty Dog with Sony), so I don't see why it's out the question to have happend again. As previously stated, maybe Disaster is turning out to be something really special and Nintendo just wants to make sure that a lot of the team behind it stays in their camp?

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: May 03, 2007, 06:34:22 AM »
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Originally posted by: thatguy
That's just their speculation, like you said.  It holds just as much water (probably less, actually) as most of our speculation in this thread.  Did they support it with any reasoning or history?


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Nintendo acquired a majority share of Monolith Soft from Namco, but so far as we know it did not gain any licenses with the deal. Namco owns the Xenosaga brand and I expect that it will continue to publish the series, whether it's with Monolith Soft as the developer (and quite possibly as a Wii exclusive, which would be amazing) or with another company altogether. Nintendo shares a very good relationship with Namco there is always the chance that Xenosaga could continue on Wii. I wouldn't mind a Baten Kaitos sequel, either. The short, direct answer is that Nintendo doesn't own the license, but that doesn't mean Xenosaga won't come to Wii. Relationships have a way of making things happen.


http://wii.ign.com/mail/index.html

Like I said: Publisher > Developer in most of these situations of franchise rights, unless the copyright says otherwise, and it didn't.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« on: May 02, 2007, 03:15:39 PM »
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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
Even though Marth game was never released outside of Japan as well...


That's true... however, we did get the anime OAV released here that he was the main character of:


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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
« on: May 01, 2007, 03:14:18 PM »
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
I am amazed there isn't more people upset with Capcom's obvious slam to Wii gamers. Everyone freaked when EA said they were they were commenting about MySim's graphical style, yet when Capcom takes a shot at the fans it gets a pass.


Are you sure that's even what's taking place? I mean, consider that this is all translated from Japanese and that it's very easy to misinterpret what Kawata was actually trying to say, given the context. If he was really trying to say "intuitive" instead of "easy", would anyone have a problem with it?

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General Gaming / RE:Ken Kutaragi "Retires"
« on: May 01, 2007, 02:57:08 PM »
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
In all honesty I wouldn't mind seeing Ken being added to Nintendo's hardware department, specifically designing the internal components of Nintendo's next system.


As would I... if I didn't care about the eventual price of the system.

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General Gaming / RE:Analyst: "Gaming has been a disastrous endeavor for Microsoft"
« on: April 30, 2007, 08:48:16 AM »
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
k


Touché

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 29, 2007, 11:32:52 AM »
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Originally posted by: thatguy
Well, I think it is worth noting that Rare did publish some of their games, too.  That shows the company did have some independence.


Yep, they published Conker... and later updated and ported that to the Xbox as well.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 29, 2007, 10:58:13 AM »
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Originally posted by: capamerica
I still don't think Rare is an exception.
Show me a 2nd Party Studio that had its controlling stock moved from one company to another, and didn't keep their native franchises.


How many examples are there of this happening? Let's take another "second party" though, in this case Silicon Knights. According to records, Nintendo owns the Eternal Darkness franchise:

"Title:         [Eternal darkness : sanity's requiem]
Claimant:         Nintendo of America, Inc."

However, the catch is that:

"Author on © Application:         audiovisual material & computer program: Silicon Knights"

So they can't port the game, but they do own the series, which would apply to this example as well with Monolith (since they weren't the publisher of their own titles).

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 29, 2007, 09:44:36 AM »
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Originally posted by: capamerica
I hate to keep bringing Rare up for this, but as I said they are the best example.
Web copyrights don't mean much. So don't Trademarks. If all trademarks were were accurate as to who owns the game then as I've said before Nintendo would still own Banjo-Kazooie and Killer Instinct.


Rare is an exception, not the norm. Nintendo could have easily taken those franchises with them, but decided against it. They wanted to have "good blood" with Rare, possibly hoping that they would continue to develop games for their systems, but they went over to Microsoft instead.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 29, 2007, 08:39:40 AM »
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Working on a game does not necessarily entitle you to its rights. Just ask TOSE. If Tri-Crescendo owns part of Baiten Kaitos then it would have rights, but working on it does not mean they own any part of it.


Bingo, and glad someone brought it up. Also, rule of thumb: publishers get more of a take at the rights then the developers do. In that sense, the copyright on the official Baten Kaitos page reads:

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TM & © 2003 2006 NAMCO BANDAI GAMES Inc. Baten Kaitos is a trademark of NAMCO BANDAI GAMES Inc.


So I would wager it's most likely in Namco's hands, with Tri-Crescendo not having any stake in it unless it was part of the agreement.

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NWR Feedback / RE: The Wi-Fi connection boards...
« on: April 29, 2007, 08:35:03 AM »
I fully support UncleBob's plan here, and also feel that the less boards you can get away with, the better. In that sense, I really can't see VC deserving its own forum with the level of discussion about it right now.

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General Gaming / RE:Analyst: "Gaming has been a disastrous endeavor for Microsoft"
« on: April 29, 2007, 08:20:33 AM »
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Have we seen this?

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Originally posted by: Arbok
Bingo. That is their #1 objective. Let's not ignore the recent reports either that Microsoft might have dumped a ton of consoles onto the market to meet their "10 million" shipped target last holiday... which sales still haven't caught up to that mark yet:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Xbox-360-Microsoft-Mugged-Their-own-Sales-Figures-51980.shtml


Yep

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 28, 2007, 07:06:54 PM »
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Well, technically, didn't Rare offer to sell ALL the rest of stock to Nintendo? And Nintendo declined, then sold their stake? Then Rare offered to sell the whole lot to MS?


Yep, that's exactly right. The article I posted earlier mentioned this as well:

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Nintendo, which declined to discuss the sale price of its share of Rare, had an option to purchase the rest of the developer last fall, but decided against it, believing that the price was too high.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Male VS. Female Pokemon
« on: April 28, 2007, 06:03:20 PM »
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Originally posted by: thatguy
Gender stopped effecting stats in Ruby and Sapphire, and it really only effected stats minimally in Gold, Silver, and Crystal, IIRC.


How out of the loop I have been, it seems.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 28, 2007, 05:34:23 PM »
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
What the heck does position mean in this context?
So you're saying they sold Rare to Rare?


....yes.

It's called owning stock in a company. A firm can choose, if they want, to buy back their own stock (called a "share repurchase"), as Nintendo has in the past. In this case, Nintendo sold back their 49% share of stock to Rare, and then Rare sold it all off to Microsoft.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Male VS. Female Pokemon
« on: April 28, 2007, 01:55:10 PM »
Unless it has changed, I think Males have both higher Attack and Special Attack stats, while Females have higher Defense and Special Defense stats.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Xenosaga to be a Nintendo exclusive?
« on: April 28, 2007, 01:41:46 PM »
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Umm, Nintendo sold Rare to Microsoft for something like 300 million yen.


Incorrect:

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"We sold our position back to Rare and then they sold the entire company to Microsoft," said George Harrison, senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications for Nintendo of America.

Microsoft, which has not announced the deal, refused to comment. Industry analysts estimate the price of the deal was likely between $400 million and $500 million dollars.


http://money.cnn.com/2002/09/20/news/deals/rare/index.htm

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