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Nintendo Gaming / June numbers

« on: July 21, 2003, 11:21:59 AM »

Look at that. Smash Bros is STILL going. There's no stopping it. And Mario Party 4 is close behind too.
Hopefully Nintendo's MANY other 4P games coming out this year will be equally resilient.

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Nintendo Gaming / Could it be bad if other developers handle games?

« on: July 21, 2003, 11:06:53 AM »

You make it sound like Nintendo forced them to make these games or something.
They're both third-party developers and can make their own choices. They're developing these games because they wanted to. The original Mario sports title were huge sellers so of course Camelot wants to make sequels. Most of Treasure's games do really poorly so I'm sure it jumped at the chance to borrow one of Nintendo's most famous mascots for a game.

Also, you seem to have a lack of faith in Mario Tennis and Golf. The games will sell systems.
They may not cause a massive increase in Gamecube sales but I don't think any game could accomplish that. I doubt any original game from Camelot could sell as well or sell as many systems as those games will. Not even close. An entirely original RPG from Camelot would, sadly, probably bomb on the Gamecube. I definitly want to see original titles from Camelot and Treasure but don't fool yourself into thinking that they'd be making MASSIVE system sellers that would kick of HUGE new franchises if not for Nintendo wanting more sequels to Mario and Wario games.

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Nintendo Gaming / Mario Golf, where are you?

« on: July 21, 2003, 07:01:09 AM »

"it took Camelot 14 months to release the N64 version of Mario Tennis after Mario Golf was released. So I would expect that wait again before Mario Tennis GCN is released."

I didn't think Camelot even started on Mario Tennis until after Mario Golf was finished.
Both of the new games are being developed together so I think we'll get Mario Tennis very soon.  

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Nintendo Gaming / What game I'd like to see for the Gamecube

« on: July 21, 2003, 01:09:38 AM »

I'd definitly like to see a Nintendo-made pinball game for the Gamecube.
I know it's not usually Nintendo's style to copy other developers but I'd like to see it copy Sega's idea with Sonic Pinball and make a pinball game featuring boards devoted to all of its famous mascots. It would be the first really successful pinball title on a console in a long, LONG time.
 

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TalkBack / Okamoto Leaves Capcom

« on: July 21, 2003, 12:59:29 AM »

I'm all for developers taking steps to fight the sad direction gaming has gone in and try and restore it to what it once but that sounds a little extreme. Couldn't he of just followed Mikami and convinced Capcom to let him open his own game studio with presumably complete freedom of development? If Capcom wouldn't have allowed it, I'm sure Nintendo would have taken him.
Nintendo obviously doesn't look at the "faces of shareholders" when designing its game.
I'm sure his school will have a very positive effect on the gaming industry in the long-term but it's really a shame such a talented developer won't have any more games on the market.

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Nintendo Gaming / Mario Golf, where are you?

« on: July 19, 2003, 08:50:06 PM »

I think Nintendo's problem is it has WAY too many games to hype at the moment.
All through the N64 days, it had maybe two or three big games on the horizon at once but there are about a dozen great games either being developed or co-developed by Nintendo or one its second parties (or funded by Nintendo) that are supposed to be out by the end of the year. Nintendo's just not used to having such a full plate so it's not surprising that some games are seemingly completely off its radar.
I'm starting to think Nintendo might not even realize the game is scheduled for release in just a few weeks

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Nintendo Gaming / MASSIVE news coming 4 gamecube

« on: July 19, 2003, 05:11:00 AM »

Seems like that whenever there are rumors of a big announcement, nothing comes.
The actual big announcements seem to come out of nowhere with no warning.
If I recall correctly, that was the case with the Resident Evil series going Gamecube exclusive, Square's return to Nintendo, and the Capcom Five.

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Nintendo Gaming / Nintendo and sonic

« on: July 17, 2003, 01:29:24 AM »

"Whatever, but your gonna be disappointed if you wait to see Sonic in next SSB."

Not long ago, people who were waiting for a Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid game on the Gamecube were told the same thing.
The argument isn't about wanting Sonic in the game anyway. It's about the possibility of him being in the game. It may be very unlikely but, all things considered, it IS possible.

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Nintendo Gaming / Nintendo and sonic

« on: July 17, 2003, 01:19:55 AM »

"Look man, SSB is game where ONLY Nintendo Chars fight, no way Sonic will appear in it."

That is such flawed logic. Especially when it comes to Nintendo games which have been known to drastically change from sequel to sequel. The first two Smash Bros game may have just had Nintendo characters but who knows what we'll see in the next sequel.
Miyamoto actually made a comment a while ago about Sonic possibly being a racer in Mario Kart. If he was open to that idea, he'd certainly be open to the idea of Sonic in Smash Bros which makes a lot more sense than him being in Mario Kart.

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Nintendo Gaming / Nintendo and sonic

« on: July 17, 2003, 01:08:10 AM »

The people who are acting like Sonic appearing in Smash Bros is impossible need to wake up and take a look around.
Sega is making Fzero, Namco is making Starfox, Capcom is making Zelda, and a Nintendo developer is making Metal Gear Solid.
The impossible has become commonplace on the Gamecube and Sonic appearing in a Smash Bros sequel is a very real possibility. He might even bring Megaman and Pacman with him.
Because, at this point, it doesn't seem to matter who owns what.

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Nintendo Gaming / And the rumor mill flies....

« on: July 17, 2003, 12:50:54 AM »

I remember hearing that the REmake sold over 800,000 worldwide which is way above average.
I'm not exactly sure how well RE0 sold but I'm sure it was at least above 400,000 worldwide which HAS to be above average. Probably quite a bit above average too.

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Nintendo Gaming / And the rumor mill flies....

« on: July 17, 2003, 12:00:31 AM »

The REmake sold WAY above expectations and though RE0 apparently didn't reach Capcom's sales expectations, it didn't bomb. Not even close. Both games sold well. Not average.
I think average is just like three or four hundred thousand copies if not lower.
As for the games being among the lowest selling of the series. I think the same would be true if it were on the PS2. I don't think the series is necessarily dying out or anything but it's no longer the phenomenon it once was.


 

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Nintendo Gaming / And the rumor mill flies....

« on: July 16, 2003, 11:15:25 PM »

I don't see why he'd leave, especially with Capcom's faith in PS4 restored after the strong sales of Viewtiful Joe in Japan. So I think it's BS.

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Nintendo Gaming / Shenmue 3 confirmed, but not the platform.

« on: July 16, 2003, 11:07:40 PM »

Sega has made a lot of really stupid moves but making Shenmue 3 XBox exclusive after Shenmue 2 bombed so badly on the console would take the crown. I think the game will either be PS2 exclusive or multi-platform. Regardless of where it goes, I don't think it will sell anyway.
I personally think Sega should have just gone ahead and cancelled the series.
Just maybe Virtua Fighter Quest will turn out to be what Shenmue was supposed to be but never was. The game has to be something special considering how secretive Sega has been about it.

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Nintendo Gaming / Nintendo on Life Support?

« on: July 16, 2003, 09:44:36 PM »

"M$ and $ony are a pair of titans vying an all or nothing battle for the home console market."

Sony is the only titan. The XBox isn't even close to being a serious threat to Sony at the moment and with zero chance of an MS console ever being successful in Japan where the majority of the most important third-party developers are, it won't ever be. I think most developers get that too. I doubt any of them actually believe MS will ever take Sony's place as the dominant force in the market.
I think a lot of third-party developers including Capcom and Namco understand that Nintendo is the only one that is capable of taking Sony down which is why they're getting behind it.
Nintendo, like MS, has the money to compete with Sony but, unlike MS, it has the potential to be HUGE in Japan in the console market (it already is in the handheld market in Japan) and is respected by Japanese developers. MS's biggest weakness is Nintendo's potential greatest strength. If Sony's reign over gaming ever comes to an end, I guarantee it will be Nintendo's doing.

 

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Nintendo Gaming / Being online isn't worth it. . .

« on: July 10, 2003, 06:37:06 PM »

"Microsoft announced they had sold 350 000 units of Xbox Live worldwide"

Wow. That's the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.
I knew XBox Live wouldn't be the take-the-world-by-storm massive hit some deluded fans were hyping it as, but even I thought it would do better than that. Didn't MS spend a ton of money on this thing too? So why aren't MS investors going after Gates with torches and pitchforks yet?

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Nintendo Gaming / Just Finished Eternal Darkness. WOW!

« on: July 10, 2003, 06:29:58 PM »

The game was brilliant. The gameplay wasn't quite up to par with other Nintendo titles IMO but most games with as complex a story and as many cinamatics as ED have barely any gameplay and hardly qualify as games at all. So ED is definitly in a league of its own.


I'm actually hoping SK will remake ED for Nintendo's next console.
It could even be marketted as an entirely original game since so few people played the original. The game deserved to be a massive hit and Nintendo should give it another chance at becoming one.

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TalkBack / SN Systems Developer Survey

« on: July 10, 2003, 02:32:00 AM »

The survey sounds like it was really poorly orchestrated.
The fact that it was done online alone completely destroys its validity. Also, only 81 people took the survey? That's cr*p. Most were probably American developers too.
I'm dissapointed PGC even posted this as news.

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TalkBack / Viewtiful Joe Sells Out?

« on: July 08, 2003, 09:13:07 PM »

"What is VERY important about the success of this game is that the famous "Capcom 5" is more likely to be GameCube exclusive. Capcom said in it's "exclusivity clarification" that they aren't guaranteed exclusives- it depends on the sales of them. Since this one sold well, the other games have a much better chance of being GC excusive. Very good indeed for Nintendo. I'm looking forward to Killer 7 myself..."

I don't think it works that way. Capcom recently announced PN3 would remain Gamecube exclusive after it sold so poorly in Japan.
Capcom cares more about its own profits than it does about Nintendo's stance in the console war. It doesn't have the attitude that it will punish the Gamecube by making a game multi-platform if it sells poorly or reward it by keeping it exclusive if it sells well.
Viewtiful Joe selling well probably makes it more likely to be multi-platform. PN3 won't go multi-platform because Capcom assumes that if the game didn't sell well on the GCN, it probably won't sell well on the PS2 either. So there's no point to porting it. But Capcom might look at Viewtiful Joe's sales on the Gamecube and decide, if it sold well on that console, it will certainly sell as well or even better on the PS2.
Regardless, this is good news for Nintendo. It will just make Capcom and other developers more willing to develope titles from the ground up on the Gamecube regardless of whether they eventually get ported to the PS2 or not.
 

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Nintendo Gaming / New nintendo periferal idea: 3d glasses?

« on: July 08, 2003, 08:42:40 PM »

Obviously, console gaming will eventually enter the realm of virtual reality and baby-steps like introducing such a periphrial would be appropriate. Just as long as it's very, VERY optional. A way to slowly introduce consumers to something that will almost certainly be a standard in console gaming at some point.

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Nintendo Gaming / Consumerism as experience eg: GCN2 anticipation

« on: July 08, 2003, 08:38:41 PM »

A lot of people just seem to care more about Nintendo doing better than Sony and MS than they do about the actual games. I don't think it's even because they want Nintendo to do well as a company either. Nintendo is already doing well - in fact, it's doing great. It's making hundereds of millions in profits. A lot of people just want bragging rights. Video gamers can be the most immature, over-dramatic people at times as they constantly bicker about which console is doing better. The way they talk about it, it's like the console war is the third world war or something.
I think a lot of Nintendo fans, sadly, are more excited about the possibility of taunting MS and Sony fans a few years from now when Nintendo's next console might be out-selling the PS3 and XBox2 than they are about any of the MANY upcoming great Gamecube games.

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Nintendo Gaming / Camolot after Mario Golf and Tennis...

« on: June 24, 2003, 03:02:38 PM »

"Mario Golf and Mario Tennis on the N64 didn't need sequels and I can't think of anyone who even wanted one."

I wanted a sequel and I'm sure there are millions more like me.
Don't assume that just because you don't want the games that no one does.
You probably didn't want a Mario Party 4 either but it was still a HUGE hit and caused a notable surge of hardware sales in Japan. The game actually had more staying-power than Wind Waker over there.

"Yet instead of having Camelot work on a potential system selling RPG (with a possible strong brand name in the Golden Sun series) they have then working on "yet another Mario game". I think that sums up Nintendo's problems RIGHT THERE."

You can't assume Nintendo has them working on the Mario titles "instead" of an RPG. It's possible (IMO probable) Camelot is working on all three.
Mario Tennis and Golf are just as capable (probably more so) of being system-sellers as an RPG too. The N64 titles were huge hits and Nintendo's 4P party-games have been its best link to casual gamers (and the entire Japanese gaming market) for years now. I think the problem with the Gamecube so far is Nintendo has relied too heavily on 1P games like Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, and Wind Waker. Multiplayer titles are what Nintendo needs to really improve consoles sales.
I agree that the Gamecube needs to win over the RPG audience too but it does have an exclusive Final Fantasy title for that. And who knows what else could be in development. There could be a Mother or Fire Emblem Gamecube title in development. Maybe Nintendo has something going on with Enix too. It's practically the only top-developer Nintendo doesn't (as far as we know) have some joint-venture project with at the moment. Nintendo isn't stupid. It knows it needs RPGs and I'm sure it's doing everything in its power to get them.

"If Nintendo follows through with their plans of releasing their next console in 2005 to match Sony will Camelot even have enough time to make an RPG for the Cube? They haven't even released a Gamecube title yet."

If Camelot's RPG has really been in development as long as rumored, it will easily make it out in time.
I doubt Nintendo's next console will be out in 2005 anyway. Sony's either. I think MS might release its console that soon but, if it does, it will just end up being the next Dreamcast.
I'm confident the next generation of consoles won't really start until 2006 and there are still many Gamecube titles that haven't even be revealed yet that will make it out while the console is still very much alive.
 

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Nintendo Gaming / Acclaim drops all support for Nintendo!

« on: June 23, 2003, 05:18:09 PM »

"Hey, maybe we can also have a party when Nintendo is forced out of the bloody console market BECAUSE EVERY DEVELOPER HAS LEFT THEM DUE TO BAD SALES."

Essentially all developers left Nintendo last generation on account of the cartridge format and Nintendo not only wasn't forced to exit the market but actually made a huge profit of its console (it actually made more than Sony made off the PSX). Now, with very little help from third-party developers, the Gamecube is keeping pace with the N64 and Nintendo is making a nice profit off of it too. All signs suggest Nintendo can not only survive but actually thrive on its first and second party support alone.
So it's understandable that most people aren't exactly horrified about a developer abandoning Nintendo (which turns out to not even be true anyway). Especially when other more prominent developers like Capcom, Namco and Sega are not only supporting the Gamecube, but supporting it with exclusive titles. Many of which have sold very well.

"THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING. NO MATTER WHAT WAY YOU LOOK AT IT!"

This is just a necessary progression. Developers have to realize that Nintendo and the people who buy Nintendo consoles are as different as night and day compared to Sony, MS, and the people who buy those consoles. That's exactly how Nintendo intended it to be too.
Capcom, Namco, and Sega have the right idea about Gamecube development and that's why they've had success developing for it. In some cases, more success than they've had on the PS2 and XBox. Developers like Acclaim are just making the mistake of thinking the same tactics it uses to make a profit off the PS2 and maybe the XBox will work on the Gamecube. They have to wake up and realize the Gamecube is different and needs to be treated as such. But, really, Acclaim doesn't have the talent or originality to create the kind of games that will sell well on the Gamecube so it probably should just go ahead and stop all Gamecube development afterall.  

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Nintendo Gaming / Too Human?

« on: June 23, 2003, 03:07:54 PM »

Yeah, I think Nintendo would be wise to make Too Human a launch title for its next console.
I think the ideal scenereo would be for Nintendo to have both a Mario title and Too Human as dueling flag-ship launch titles. Those two games, along with a plethora of great titles from Nintendo-friendly developers like Capcom, Namco, and Sega would make for the greatest launch line-up ever.
Unlike with the SNES, N64, and Gamecube, Nintendo should make sure it starts this next generation both on time and prepared (FOR ONCE!).

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Nintendo Gaming / Acclaim drops all support for Nintendo!

« on: June 23, 2003, 01:54:51 PM »

Acclaim and other similar developers just need to adopt Nintendo's quality over quantity policy . . . at least in terms of Gamecube support.
Honestly, most if not all of Acclaim's games shouldn't be on the Gamecube. Games that range from mediocre to bad just don't sell on the Gamecube and I personally have no problem with that. They deserve to sell poorly and if they somehow manage to sell decently enough on the PS2 or XBox so that they make even a tiny profit ... well, that just doesn't speak well for PS2 and XBox owners who either have really bad taste in games or are, more likely, too stupid to do even a little bit of research to find out a game isn't worth buying. I suppose maybe they just go to the store and buy a game based on how cool the box-art is.
Fortunately, great games DO sell on the Gamecube. In fact, just about all of the third-party titles on the Gamecube that deserved to sell well did sell well including the REmake and RE0.  So I think it would be a wise move if Acclaim kept all of its mediocre to bad games on the PS2 or XBox where people are apparently naive enough to buy them and, in the unlikely event it actually creates a great game at some point, they should put it on the Gamecube where I'm confident it would sell very well.