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Title: The OFFICIAL Big N rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 09, 2006, 04:08:31 PM
Can I make a "official" thread? Well here it is anyway. Just remember these are just rumors and are to be taken with grain of salt. Posted here purely for discussion and not posted as facts of any kind.

07/09/2006

First up:
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En Voz Baja XIII: "Wiispering" (English Version) translated from Revogamers.net
Those editions where we repeated once and again that this section is a compilation of rumors, and remembered the meaning of that word, are now gone. Besides, it is known that some of our gossips have become fulfilled later (yes, like our accurate certainty about Namco's Horse Racer Game). However, some others were simple office rumors.

Therefore, we invite you all to this new amount of "gossips" from the gaming industry, which comes as varied as interesting.

GAMES:

Just before last E3, one of our contacts talked about the possibility to see Panzer Dragoon in our Wiis next year, could it be one of Sega's unannounced tittles?

This time we bring you a rumor which we hope will never become truth. It seems that Hideo Kojima's Project has been temporarily cancelled, and probably ported to PS3. Control innovations would still remain in that platform. According to our sources, it would perfectly adapt to the PS3 controller and its new functions, that's why Sony is trying to pay for the exclusivity. So right now, this project is in the air.

Aside from the new Pokémon that has been announced (Pokémon Stadium style), it seems that the development of a brand new title has begun, codename: Pokémon RPG. Nothing else is known about this, although with that name…

And now we go with Resident Evil (although the information received seems a little bit weird). It seems that Capcom is really committed with the Wii version: the game will use an improved version of RE4's engine, greatly pushing the graphical quality.
The control scheme will be the same used in RE4, but using the capacities of the wiimote. What lead us to confusion is the following… it's said that they already have Chris Redfield finished model and part of Raccon City stage after being destroyed… ??. In addition it seems that Capcom could be developing another brand new Survival Horror IP, only for Wii.

Entering NDS topic, we rescue a past rumor from the tenth edition, where we mentioned a possible second part for Super Mario 64 DS (a sequel, but with another name). But this time we add another incoming Mario title: New Super Mario Bros sequel, also for DS.

A new project from Nintendo could be in development but in this you'll need a Nintendo DS in order to play, since Wii will send data to the DS like some sort of PDA of the main character of the game. In the DS it will be possible to solve puzzles or receive information, which later will interact with the game at the television. Possibly it is a first person adventure, stressing again the more adult nature of the new Nintendo IPs.

Now we jump to Super Smash Bros Brawl. Almost by fact, Sonic will be within the cast of characters, and of course will have exclusive actions and objects, for example, become Supersonic, or an emerald to use against his opponents.

The new Miyamoto's concept with Mario Galaxy can be deeper as first thought. At E3, they showed only one planetary system with several destinations to explore in form of small planets, but the latest rumors would aim at a complex set of several systems that we have to find out. And in them we will find some really big planets, for instance, one that is supposedly very similar to the Earth in features and size.

Let's speak about a fantasy one: Eragon, a game based on the film scheduled for Christmas - based as well on books by Christopher Paolini, (confirmed at this moment for all platforms except Wii and PS3). Vivendi would want to bring it, but it seems that Nintendo is not convinced yet. Same problem face both companies with Scarface, but in this case the Great N seems much more negative about the style of the game (perhaps if both titles took more advantage of Wii's gaming freedom…).

The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess, which tries to become the game of the year (and of the History), also wants to bring more rumors than anyone. At this moment loads of side-quests would be being added. Even it has been said that we will be able to hunt insects with a virtual net (you already know how). It seems that our friend Tingle will return to give the funny (?) side of this chapter. But as we already know, the drama and maturity will reign in the argument. So it is that Link could suffer extremely while the twilight princess gains an importance we've never seen before. According to what we've been told, several endings are being handed, and one of them will be chosen very soon. In addition, the staff behind the game will have to do their best if they want the game to arrive in time (We hope!).

Long time ago we said that Nintendo wanted to take up the Star Fox saga again in Wii with the quality that it deserves. Rumors have it that some old Rare workers would have joined to the project.

Without a doubt, Shigeru Miyamoto's new IP has been the most mysterious project of Mario's company for years. Let's take two possible rumored notes: codename "Pulse", slight commentary "a game that changes in a daily basis".

Square is worried with the amount of available Lites at Final Fantasy III release date. Without a doubt this is one of the hits of the year, and if it gets the awaited success, the FFVII remake thing could become a fact for the dual screened. It would be the first time to try to seriously bring the 3D main series to the portable market, in its full power. Even it has been said that for FFIII, Square started playing around with N64's primitive FFVII engine.

This one seems obvious: they told us that Superman will be more multiplatform than ever, and also will try to take advantage of the movies-mania in Wii.


MISC:

The peripheral party for Wii begins. If everything is fulfilled, we'll have headphones, cameras, hard disks… even a specifically designed wireless keyboard, with that common Apple style, and a blue-lighted button specially set to WiiConnect24, which warns about new contents. Besides, WiiConnect24 could also be used to maintain some kind of emission in the TV when the console is in StandBy mode. When you change to the Wii channel, it is not a black screen. On the other hand, the company's microphone-mania could lead to its inclusion in the final controller (although it seems very complicated to us). Who knows if it will be for the launching, or the supposed WiiTalk service, hypothetically scheduled for 2007. They still have to decide.

Now let's return to speak about the Virtual Console. Some rumors say that they are already testing with SegaSaturn games, but the process to execute them in Wii is very difficult, reason why a possible compatibility with a few selected titles is being thought, and not the whole catalogue. Another old rumor that sounds even stronger this time is SNK with Neo-geo games. In addition it seems that Nintendo is in conversations with MAME parents to make it compatible with Wii so some arcade ROMS could be downloaded legally… a big success would be, without a doubt.

About the launch date. Many (MANY) dates are considered today (so this could be wrong). We make our bet and say what has arrived to our ears (be careful, RUMORS). Probably October , 16th - 21st in Japan and before the end/early Nov in Europe/USA, always considering that the console would be in the street at least two weeks before PS3. Wii colors for Europe: black and white.

Nintendo would like to offer a software system to create compatible games for the Virtual Console, with packages of editable maps, characters, actions…. No more information has arrived about.

It may seem as a small curiosity, but we should notify the supposed effort that they will make to redesign NoE's main site. It's planned before the Wii's launch, willing to reach the level of the American and Japanese versions.

In summary:
The Good news
-An Actual Pokemon RPG may be in the works
-Resident Evil Wii is coming along nicely, and new Survivor horror IP may be in the wooks too
-Sequel to New Super Mario Bros. in the works
-Sequel to Super Mario 64 DS in the works
-A WiiDS connectivity game is in the works
-Sonic is in Super Smash Bros. Brawl
-Lots of side-quest still being added to Zelda: Twilight Princess
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (good news?)
-Square/Enix is in the prepared to do a FFVII for DS if FFIII is the success they are expecting
-Many peripherals are in the works and a Mic may even be added to the Wiimote
-Sega Saturn, Neo Geo & Arcade roms may be coming to the Virtual Console

The Bad news:
-Kojima's exclusive new Wii game might get moved to PS3 instead
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (bad news?)

Is this all just a load of crap? Did we know some of this stuff already? Have you heard something different? Do you like what you hear? Which ones do you think just sound like crap, which one do you really hope to come true?
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Updated 7/14/2006

NEW Rumors straight from the EGM rumor mill *more salt needed*

If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii
& SquareEnix is working on a MMORPG in the Mana Universe


and one for the DS because I don't want to start another thread
Mother(Earthbound) Compilation for DS complete with Touchscreen capabilities.

If either of the first two have any truth to them, such as DQ is also coming to Wii or a NEW Mana game is coming to Wii, it is definately very very good news, especially if exclusive and/or MMO

as for the DS rumor, I would guess that this is great news as I've never played the game and I have no idea how much Japan or the U.S loves Mother/Eathbound.
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Updated 07/25/2006

source: 2amUpdate.com
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Originally posted on Nintendo.com forums
-First off let me say that the full scope of the Wii controller details has yet to be revealed by PixArt and Nintendo. Although I cannot elaborate any further let me say that the Nintendo should show that the movement in 3D space will allow experiences outside of just the TV screen. And its not 3D projection related.

-The official launch date has yet to be set in stone but will indeed launch before Sony’s PS3.

-Ironically enough, the first game that will be shown to the public that demonstrates the full scope of Wii controller potential will be Dragonball Z Budokai 4.

-When Nintendo first showed the controller at Tokyo Game Show late 2005 they were very hesitant to show it full usage. I will allow one more clue to my finding that the Wii controller can function exactly as we all have seen demonstrated WITHOUT the sensor bar. So ask yourselves, why need a sensor bar?

-The sensor bar was in all actuality in no use at E3 2006. What is will allow hasn’t been shown yet.

-According to people who are working close to everyday events at Nintendo R&D, Nintendo Wii specifications were far and away developed solely for that machine.

-IBM and ATI have been working on Broadway and Hollywood for quite some time now. And according to many people Wii’s specs could go up or down at this point in the CPU/VPU departments. Apparently Nintendo has spent quite a lot of money having IBM and ATI fabricate many iterations of Broadway and Hollywood. Which range from a 3.4GHz-730MHz Broadway CPUs, and 1.2GHz-553MHz custom ATI/Nintendo Hollywood VPU. From what we hear Hollywood is key to the Wii’s power. The architecture is all about eliminating bottlenecks and maximizing performance, upgrade of the CPU with the slight downgrade of the graphics processor compliments this philosophy, striking a great balance for Wii. However, it was also indicated that since Hollywood is a truly extreme “Flipper II” and Broadway is a massively upgraded “Gekko II” at least in architecture. That early on Nintendo R&D took a good look at what GameCube did good and what it could have done better. It was mentioned that GameCube’s Flipper was an extremely powerful chip far more capable than even the Xbox’s. The Gekko design meant for balance, though was not able to support but about 50% of the ArtX’s Flipper’s power. This particular bottleneck has been ironed out allowing Broadway to fully complement Hollywood to its maximum potential and vise-versa. The initial estimates we got concerning final hardware spec was Broadway at around 1.5GHz and Hollywood at 555MHz.

-There is also word that Nintendo in private sessions has big plans for the Wii headset. Talk is, that Nintendo wants to lean away from having the headset only for online capability. They are wanting to go further. Having the headset of course include a microphone for use in games is a given. But there was also talk of a late to launch release of this “gyroscopic headset” that would be supported by the sensor bar as well. To sum up the theory we were privy to. The headset would be somewhat sensitive to movement that could be translated into the game. Such as if you get up and move to the right of your television something might correspond for that in the game. Such as dodging things, looking around corners etc. It was also mentioned that it might have a unique look and non-obstructive lightweight design.

-Our latest discovery concerning Wii software is that developer Nibris (Raid Over the River, Sadness) has received Wii development kits and has partnered with publisher Majesco.
Quick Summary
-Wii controller still has a secret(movement in 3-d space not presented on TV) DBZ: Budokai 4 1syt to take full advantage
-True use for the sensor bar has yet to be revealed
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz)
-Gyroscope headset to be released post launch(used for more than online chat<obviously>)
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Updated 7/31/2006

Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs?

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The Wii Hardware

- Nintendo Wii’s ‘Broadway’ CPU operates at 729MHZ with a maximum bandwith of 1.9gbyte/sec.
- Nintendo Wii’s ‘HollyWood’ GPU is clocked at 243MHZ, the internal memory of it includes 3mb of embedded graphics memory and 24megabytes of high speed main memory.
- 64megabytes of GDDR3 (MEM2) as the external main memory. Just like the internal memory, it can be accessed from the CPU and GPU with a maximum bandwidth of 4gbytes/sec and can also store programs in the MEM2.
- The GPU of the Wii is identical to the GC’s but it is on average 1.5X faster.

Wii's Optical Disc Drive

- Opitcal Disc Drive (ODD) supports single and dual layer Wii disks, discs eject with software or button and the maximum read speed is the equivalent of DVDx6.
- Two main disc types supported the single sided 12cm single sided 4.7gb and the double sided 8.51 GB. Nintendo GC discs also supported. Some of the capacity of the discs are used by the system and games can not use full disc space.
- Inserting a disc will start the Wii console, even if it was already in an off state. Pressing the eject button will change the console to an on state to take out the disc also.

General Overview

- An optional wired LAN adapter that connects to a USB port is in the pipeline for users who do not possess a wireless LAN set-up currently.
- Internal non-removable 512MB flash memory used to storage game save data and downloadable content thus eliminating the need for a memory card.
- Both Wii discs and Gamecube discs can be played via an intelligent mode swap. When running in GC mode, the Wii’s CPU and GPU will lower to the respective speeds of the GC and some of the MEM2 functions as ARAM.
- Software development environment is an upgrade to the ‘Dolphin SDK’ used with the GC; the same libraries are used so developers can get up to scratch easily as well as the possibility of ports being easier.
- The following interfaces are included with the Wii; SD card slot, Wireless controller, two USB 2.0 ports, wireless LAN, 4x GC controller ports, 2x GC memory card slots and an AV multi output jack (only an analog jack).
- Supports Wii disks (one sided 12cm) and GC discs (one sided 8cm) and console auto switches depends on what disk is inserted
- More than just the Nunchaku is planned as an extension. GC peripherals such as DK bongos can be used in both Wii and GC modes.
- Three power status, on, off and unplugged. To prevent mistaken turn offs, the power button must be held for about a second.

The Wii Control System

- The Wii controller features; Direct Pointing Device, Three axis accelerometer, Wii power button (remotely turn console on/off), buttons, wireless connectivity, indicator LED’s, rumble, battery powered (two AA alkaline batteries) and ability to connect extension unit.
- The Wii controller supports three types of operations; by itself, with a nunchuk extension or with a classic controller. Classic controllers will ship to developers during August 2006.
- The SYNCHRO button on the Wii controller exchanges wireless ID numbers when pressed at the same time as SYNCRHO on the Wii console. Wireless communications are only possible with consoles which have been authenticated.
- The rumble motor can be turned on and off and the intensity can be changed.
- The Wii remote has a pointer for fine movements as well as a motion Sensor +/- 3.4G suitable for larger body movements, the nunchuk attachment has a Sensor of +/- 2G
- The sensor bar must be placed above or below a TV set, the pointer measures coordinates between the ends of the bar which are about 20cm apart.
- The Wii remote has four status, disconnected, communicating, establishing connection and pairing wait status.
- The pointer can measure co-ordinates within bounds of rectangle centered upon the sensor bar, thus it can also measure points beyond the screen. It also responds to strong light sources, windows, fluorescent lamps, fireplaces, mirrors etc.
- Due to players hands shaking while holding the controller, a ring buffer allows a precise direction to be created to hold and average accelerator samples.

*UPDATE* The dev mailed us and said he was shocked to see all these cries of 'fake', so he provided some more info to show he's not bluffing...

Broadway CPU

Broadway is Wii's CPU. Broadway functionality and specifications are as follows.

• Operating speed: 729 MHz
• Bus to main memory: 243 MHz, 64 bits (maximum bandwidth: 1.9 gigabytes/sec)
• 32-kilobyte 8-way set-associative L1 instruction cache
• 32-kilobyte 8-way set-associative L1 data cache (can set up 16-kilobyte data scratch pad)
• Superscalar microprocessor with six execution units (floating-point unit, branching unit, system regis
ter unit, load/store unit, two integer units)
• DMA unit (15-entry DMA request queue) used by 16-kilobyte data scratch pad
• Write-gather buffer for writing graphics command lists to the graphics chip
• Onboard 256-kilobyte 2-way set-associative L2 integrated cache
• Two, 32-bit integer units (IU)
• One floating point unit (FPU) (supports single precision (32-bit) and double precision (64-bit))
• The FPU supports paired single floating point (FP/PS)
• The FPU supports paired single multiply add (ps_madd). Most FP/PS instructions can be issued in
each cycle and completed in three cycles.
• Fixed-point to floating-point conversion can be performed at the same time as FPU register load and
store, with no loss in performance.
• The branch unit supports static branch prediction and dynamic branch prediction.
• When an instruction is stalled on data, the next instruction can be issued and executed. All instructions
maintain program logic and will complete in the correct program order.
• Supports three L2 cache fetch modes: 32-Byte, 64-Byte, and 128-Byte.
• Supports these bus pipeline depth levels: level 2, level 3, and level 4.
Reference Information: Broadway is upward compatible with Nintendo GameCube’s CPU (Gekko).

Hollywood GPU

Hollywood is a system LSI composed of a GPU and internal main memory (MEM1). Hollywood is clocked at 243 MHz. Its internal memory consists of 3 megabytes of embedded graphics memory and 24 megabytes of high speed main memory.

Hollywood includes the following.
• Graphics processing unit (with 3 megabytes of eDRAM)
• Audio DSP
• I/O Bridge
• 24 megabytes of internal main memory
• Internal main memory operates at 486 MHz.
Maximum bandwidth between Hollywood and internal main memory: 3.9 gigabytes per second
• Possible to locate a program here
Reference Information: Hollywood is similar to Nintendo GameCube’s Flipper and Splash components.

External Main Memory (MEM2)

Wii uses 64 megabytes of GDDR3 (MEM2) as external main memory. Like internal main memory, MEM2 can be accessed directly from Broadway and the GPU at high speed and has a peak bandwidth of 4 gigabytes/sec. Programs can also be placed in MEM2.

Reference Information: Nintendo GameCube ARAM is used as auxiliary memory for the DSP. The CPU and GPU did not have direct access to it.

Source - MaxConsole.com

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Updated 8/04/2006

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Apparently, the latest issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly features the following rumors: One, that a Luigi's Mansion game is already in development for Wii, and two, that some Virtual Console games may be bundled with new games.
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Originally posted by: IGN.com

August 4, 2006 - Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany.

Since its release in the states last December, Super Mario Strikers has sold more than 500,000 copies, effectively making it a sleeper hit and likewise a prime candidate for a Wii sequel.

No details about the Wii version are yet available, but as with most Wii titles, it is very likely to take advantage of Nintendo's unique new controller in some fashion.

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Updated 08/08/2006

revised story:
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Originally posted by: IGN & AMN

number of big-name publishers are set to release their Wii games in mid-to-late October, which suggests that a system debut could not be that far off. And several insiders have told IGN that November 2 could, in fact, be the big day.

Thing is, not all of our contacts are in agreement on the date. Some have suggested that November 12 could, instead, by Wii's launch date. Regardless, though, it seems that Wii fans can look forward to their console sooner rather than later.

Sources suggest that Wii will launch with a $229 price tag and will be available in both black and white.

Nintendo has allegedly bumped production of Wii hardware to more than five million units by the end of the year, a significant upgrade to previous numbers. The jump is purportedly based on the positive reaction to Wii from press and industry analysts at E3 2006.

The console is unlikely to be region-free, although the lock is unrelated to hardware; a firmware update could theoretically allow gamers to play import software.

original story:

tid bits missing from revised version:
- Broadway CPU is of the 750 CL line which is a continuation of the 750 GX series
- IBM could be working on a downscaled Broadway that could be used in a future handheld, one that plays GC disc
- Nintendo has bumped production of Wii up to 5.5 million units by years end, which is a major jump up from 6 million by march


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Updated 08/11/2006

IGN Wii-k N review...  <--*Warning* extremely boring podcast.

- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3
- Star Wars Wii a go
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch, probably more info at TGS
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday

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Updated 8/13/2006
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Originally posted by: Aussiedude
Nintendo to install "count down clocks" in Virgin UK stores today?




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Updated 8/14/2006

An IGN Forums user, one who called the wiimote speaker months b4 EGM or E3....
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Originally posted on IGN forums in February
Date Posted: 2/8 1:48pm Subject: Developer Comments - Date Edited: 5/8 2:18pm (2 edits total) Edited By: namlas

"The controller will contain a small amount of memory, which can be written to by the console (via Bluetooth) during the game. This will usually be used to store small sound files which can be heard via the controller's small internal speaker.

In demonstrations this system could be used, for example, to simulated the sound of gun shots coming from the controller when fired; when you put this together with the force feedback, it creates a game experience which surpasses anything we have been able to create before.

In other experiments we created a simple "Chinese whisper" style communication game which one player could whisper into the controller (we were even able to be in another room when doing this) and then the sound would be sent via the console to another player's controller which they could then hear. Great fun!"
....Has now let another little rumor out into the wild. This time its about wireless headsets, accessories that are transferrable between Wii and the DS, and Speech to text technology that is to be used in conjuction with Nintendo WFC.
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Originally posted on IGN forums
"...voice communication will be via wireless, head-mounted microphones..."

"Some peripherals for the DS will be compatible with Wii and vice-versa."

"Many Nintendo first party games (specifically games designed for a younger audience) will feature a new system currently being developed by Nintendo called ‘voice to text communication’.

The system works using an advanced voice recognition system which Nintendo has been developing for several years. When a user speaks the sound is converted into on screen text and sent to the other players. However, rather than just plain text being sent the system also picks up the tone, pitch and volume of the voice and translates that into colour, font size and character set. For example, if a player shouts ‘I win’ loudly into the microphone the on screen text may be all capitalized, and in a large red font; conversely if a player speaks quietly the font may be a pastel shade and smaller.

This system also allows online voice communication to be easily censored by the user.”


Sounds good and plausible and this guy supposedly has a good track record, since he did call the wiimote speaker, and there patents for the Nintendo Speech to Text  technology.

Patent 1

Patent 2

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Updated 8/15/2006

Post taken from another forum, but all quotes and info taken from www.nintendo-inside.jp

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According to Nintendo Inside we may be getting a cheaper Wii!?!?
It seems Nintendo's stock has hit a new high on The Nikkei due to a cheaper procurement of CPU's due to a larger order?

Nikkei seem to think Wii will go on the market for 19800 Yen and not 25000Yen!!!
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The sales price of Wii assumes 19800 yen.
19:05 Tuesday, August 15, 2006


It seems to expect to be procured at a low price, and the change of the package for CPU of Wii to be a sales assumption price of Wii to 19,800 yen from a past 25,000 yen in the report of Nikko Citigroup according to NIKKEI NET.

Because it is not a free rumor article, you seem may expect this. Do it become a considerable remark that decides an argument in the person who is hesitating whether to still buy Wii?

(Tarecomi Thanks you)]

Link to price topic

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New Nintendo < Osaka Securities Exchange > hits a new high. (2006/08/15 15:35)

(code 7974 at 15:5) Stretch in succession on the fourth. The year's new high 22,310 yen on July 25 is updated to the first session, and gains have been expanded to the post-place. One o'clock is bought up to 22,810 yen of 590 yen up compared with the day before. It is continuously had a good feeling to have raised the target stock prices from a past 21,700 yen to 25,200 yen though the Nikko Citigroup bond left the investment judgment untouched by "1H" on the tenth. In this report?It becomes cheap the package for CPU (central operation processor) ..procurement.. ..the expectation.., and it changes from 25,000 yen to assume the sales price of the next generation family-use game machines 'Wii (We)' to 19,800 yen. The number of the domestic sale is expected ..expectation.. ..strong.. to increase by 50 percent so far, too. ?It makes it.

There was a point with "A recent exchange market price's tending to depreciation of the yen in the dollar and Euro becomes a purchaser hanging" (major bond) in the market, too.


..(.. stock prices of Nintendo/company overview/homepage)


Also Bloomberg are reporting Nintendo are up to there nexts in the development of brain training and Diet training type games for Wii, and expect them to hit by Xmas?

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According to Bloomberg's report, Nintendo seems to be developing software related to dieting for Wii.

"Software related to dieting etc. for 'Training that strengthens the brain' and next generation machine 'Wii' keeps being developed, being progressed from the desire that it wants to make even the person who cannot master the game controller can readily enjoy playing a game, and new range of customers being developed. "

being saidI think that the exercise is good as the possibility of the remote control of Wii. Brain..tray..intellectual training..genre..invent..game..education..useful..think..bring..following.. this time..healthy..use..mere..game machine..family..all..locate..do.

Analyst Hideki Yasuda of the ace bond is "Tendency to which the light user buys the game that it will not be caught in a past frame such as 'Training that strengthens the brain' soon by Kon, and the market extends though a terrible game and a wonderful game were popular up to now" and analyzes it. This year's Christmas sales battle was expected that how the light user was acquired would become a point. It is described, "The domination of Nintendo because it plans to put a light game and a casual game new for wii on the market".

Link to Diet games page
All on www.nintendo-inside.jp


So in summary:
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo
- Wii could launch @ $199 US
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (million sellers in Euro & US?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release

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Updated 08/27/2006

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Originally posted by: GoNintendo.com

According to him, or his source I should say, Nintendo has been playing us the fool all along. They have been showing us trailers for games that have deliberately downgraded graphics compared to what the Wii can actually do. This is to create an element of surprise for the press during Nintendo’s next media event. I am guessing that would end up being the September 14th press event. During this show they will show off Wii graphics that are “of a quality far exceeding the Xbox”, shocking us all.


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Originally posted by GoNintendo.com
*RUMOR* From the desk of the Regginator

I don’t know what is going on this weekend, but since Friday night I have been getting emailed the strangest stories! As you can see, I haven’t been posting any of them, until I came across the graphical discussion which I posted below. I have another one for you guys that is so outlandish that it needs to go up. Good for a weekend chuckle I think. I apologize to the person who emailed this to me, but I just don’t believe that this story is true. I am more willing to believe our earlier graphics rumor, which I also take with less than a quater of a grain of salt. Regardless of all that, if it is fake, someone took the time to write all this stuff up…so why not give it a home!

Okay, now that I got all that out of the way…the pictures below are “supposed” to be documents written by none other then Reggie Fils-Aime. How did our lucky emailer come to find these goodies? Read his story below.

I noticed Mr. Fils-Aime putting something in the confidential waste bin, and walked over after he had left for a meeting.. the bin was full to the top as usual, and these screwed up pages were just in reach through the lid (without taking it off and spilling papers everywhere). There’s not much I can do to prove my credibility, however I think they may be of interest to you..

Talk about being in the right place at the right time! Our reader says that he scanned the images and sent them my way. I have taken screenshots of the .pdf files, which you can check out below.


click on the link above to read the speech that Reggie supposedly wrote.

in summary:
Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii
The last secret is a Head Mounted Display
Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD
Disaster is to release in January 2007

Updated 10/28/2006
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- CNN has signed up with Nintendo as the provider of news content on tne News Channel in American and Japan. News will be presented by category, but another way of getting to it is by spinning the weather globe to find stories in different countries

- Sega has moved a significant number of development staff from PS3 to Wii over the Summer

- Although Nintendo has removed DVD movie playback from the Wii, it plans to launch in Japan next year an enhanced Wii capable of such a feature

- Nintendo intended to bring Wii to shop shelves in the UK and US for £150 and $200, but became influenced by pressure from the larger retail chains, which raised concerns over margins and low so-called 'basket value' (ie, the amount of revenue generated from a customer's overall purchases at the till)

- There are plenty of Wii Channel slots remaining to be filled

- Edge says that Wii Sports will be to Wii what Mario 64 was to the N64. Says golf has the best single player mode (no surprise) and boxing is their favourite overall


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Updated 12/05/2006

Are we allowed to quote GoNintendo.com?

well anyway, here goes...

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“Something big is coming to the Virtual Console, something that, for the past decade, certain corners of the retro community have been crying out for. I wish I could say more, but the uncertainties of publishing schedules prevents me from spilling the beans too early. Nevertheless, if what we’ve heard turns out to be true, the virtual console is about to become a lot more interesting and looks like it might turn out to be much more valuable to dedicated retro gamers than we first thought.”


Updated 01/03/2007

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Ok, so GoNintendo has posted two new rumors.

1)Dragon Quest Swords will be a new pack in game for the Wii sometime this year.
2)Nintendo is about to make a huge announcement some time this month.  Possibly as soon as this week.


Updated 01/06/2007
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http://ruliweb.empas.com/ruliboard/r...&left=b&time=0

- From Software is developing a Kingsfieldesque 1st person action RPG on Wii

- Fire Emblem Wii has two parts... The first part is the original Fire Emblem Path of Radiance..

- Nights Wii

- Square Enix and Disney agreed to put the next Kingdom Hearts on Nintendo Consoles

- Swords of Legendia will be the first game of the Swords of series.. a Spinoff series of the Tales of series..


01/09/2006
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so, this is all just a rumor and maybe a page trying to get some hits.. or whatever

according to gamefront the page wunderlampe.de was told that Square Enix will sell two of its franchises. wunderlampe did neither say which franchises will be sold nor who the buyers are.

now some speculation from gamefront. they say that it could be the Mana and Kingdom Hearts franchise, which will go to Disney, because they started their own developement studio named Fall Line in November 06. Now for the wildest thing (imo) in this speculation: Fall Line was created to produce for Wii, DS and GBA.

so, take it with a grain (or even truckload) of salt

sources: http://www.gamefront.de and http://www.wunderlampe.de/multiplatt...le-reihen.html[/q


Updated 01/24/2007

Nintendo to release a Wiimote ver. 2.0?
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According to some obscure rumor column from Japan-based Game Lab, a newly enhanced Wiimote is in the works. The rumor, via Game Front*, suggest Wiimote 2.0 will included "better grip" and rechargeable batteries out of the box, and that the revised controller will hit Japan sometime this summer.

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translated:
Did Wii remote maintenance revise planned? 23.01.07 - Nintendo is to work allegedly on a better Wii remote maintenance, which is delivered at the latest in the summer in Japan. The Japanese Game Labo in its rumor column maintains. The revised remote maintenance is to be more easily, possess a better pavement grip and rechargeable its - Nintendo did not confirm the assumptions of the Game Labo.


Updated 01/29/2007

New Colors for Wii Q4 2007?
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In a rather shocking revelation this weekend, an anonymous Nintendo rep revealed to GameDrift that a plan is running through the pipeline to colorize the, as of now, rather bland coloration of its hit console, Wii. The rep did not reveal detailed specifics, however did remark that a red and black console have been confirmed.


Updated 01/31/2007

Wired blog - Game|Life says that is has been hearing rumors of "a bunch of" games being announced by Konami for the Wii.
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Originally posted by: Chris Kohler

Should we prepare for the Konami flood on Wii? The word on the street, the latest rumor, is that the publisher will announce "a bunch of" games for Nintendo's console this week.


Updated 02/03/2007

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
New Rumor:

Gamefly has listed that a new Guilty Gears game is headed for the Wii.  This is great news since the Gamecube lacked fighting games and fighting games in general seem to slowing down.  Specially 2D games.

Originally found this story at GoNintendo.com and apparently Gamefly has been pretty accurate about there game posts for the Wii coming true.
I was gonna post this same thing, but I also heard that Game-Crazy originally had this title listed for Wii way back in Oct. '06 and Aksys had formally denied any such rumor in their forums saying "any new game announcements will be listed on our website."

Updated 03/10/2007

Did we miss this? Was is posted somewhere else on the site?

EA developing a rhythm based dancing game for Wii
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Random Nintendo has learned that Electronic Arts is developing an exclusive rhythm game for the Wii. While information is still scare, we do know that the game will be an entirely new property.

The currently untitled Wii project is under development at EA's Montreal studio. The game, which reportedly has a 1970s vibe, will have players control dancers by moving both the Wii Remote and Nunchuk. While it may sound similar to Konami's Dance Dance Revolution: Hottest Mix, one of the main differences appears to be the lack of a dance pad for EA's game.


This game was also just referenced in latest 1up Yours podcast @ about 30minutes in.
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Shane (1up/EGM) says in passing "well they already announced the microphone for the EA dancing game".


Updated 03/13/2007

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption delayed?
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US online retailer Best Buy has sent out an email notifying customers who have pre-ordered Metroid Prime 3: Corruption for Wii that the release date has changed from summer '07 to New. Year's. Eve.


Updated 03/18/2007

The rumor comes from the Japanese gamer mag - GameLabo
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The meat of the rumour, which has been doing the rounds on several US and European websites over the weekend, suggests that a Nintendo meeting took place recently to discuss the subject of an external hard drive for Wii.

While the story might sound a bit ridiculous on the face of it, fact is that many Wii gamers have already hit their limit on the Flash memory that comes with the console - especially if you've been downloading as many VC games as you can get your hands on.

Source- Computer&Videogames.com

Updated 04/06/2007

According to G4tv, there may be a reason why Nintendo has not released Duck Hunt and Hogans Alley yet on the VC. The Gun attachment for the Wiimote labeled "Zapper" was listed as a work inprogress back at E3 and may be released sooner than you think.



They also mentioned that it was rumored that the Resident Evil 4 Wiimake and/or RE: Umbrella Chronicles may be the first Wii games to make use of this peripheral.

That would make for som interesting gameplay for RE:UC but I'm not so sure about using the Zapper in RE4 Wiimake. Motion sensing controlling Leon's arm, and therefore his aim, should already add enough to the gameplay.

Updated 04/09/2007
Is Assassins Creed coming to DS & Wii?

Well according to Kotaku, Gamestop & Gamefly have the DS version listed for a September '07 release and are offering pre-order/rental options, but according to NeoGAF there was a leaked list that also had it listed for the Wii.

I haven't seen this list yet, but as soon as I find it, it will be posted here.

edit: I just saw the leaked list, which is also from Kotaku, but the only problem is that the list was from over a year ago. I wonder how much weight it actually holds.
So for the meantime take this as non-confirmation of Assassins Creed for DS until a more credible rumor pops up supporting the Wii version. Thats what I get for jumping the gun.....

update: Apparently the leaked list(provided by Kotaku above) has been very accurate so far, as many of the games on the list have already been released. Does this add credibility to AC coming to Wii? Maybe, but as with every other game on the list, we'll just have to wait and see.

Updated 04/10/2007
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Originally posted by: The Omen
From game tester land, or, a little birdie told me:

A new FPS from Free Radical is supposedly making waves through the grapevine of the game tester underground.  As you know, EA published Timesplitters:FP (I was testing Madden while that game was being tested in the lan area of the building) So knowing there's still a few friendly connections staff-wise, I am inclined to believe at least some of this.   Apparently Free Radical now have a deal with Ubisoft and they have an exclusive Wii FPS in the alpha stages.  The excitement going around about this top secret game is magnified because some think it's actually Timesplitters 4.

Why is Nascar 08 being held back from the Wii?  I don't know...it was underway with online component and everything.  Perhaps it's scrapped until next year, or perhaps Nintendo doesn't want devs to announce any online enabled games yet?  Either way, I'm surprised.

A famous Capcom classic getting the Wii treatment?  An interesting tidbit out of sunny Capcom HQ, via email. "On **, the primary thinking was to follow the Metroid Prime transition from 2d to 3d, with perhaps some 3rd person spliced in.  It was a quick discussion but intriguing anyway.  Of course **** (name) wasn't supposed to squawk, but yeah, there it is.  But this type of talk is frequent with top brass, and a lot of times nothing comes of it.  But some times...."  Take this one lightly, but it sure sounded like a great idea.


Updated 04/12/2007

Samba De Amigo

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Think NiGHTS was the only retro-game by SEGA coming back to life? Think again. Come Friday and find out what could be one of the biggest no-brainers in retuning franchises to Wii.

Let’s just say that DK: Bongo Blast probably won’t be the only Wii game you’ll be shaking beats to this year.
source

Updated 05/07/2007

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Originally posted by: vudu
RUMOR - Rockstar’s Table Tennis heading to the Wii

Dreamcast shooter Karous coming to Wii
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Now Karous, on the other hand...This is a rumour I can enjoy!


Updated 05/26/2007

Crysis in development for Wii?
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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
Crysis Screenshot on the Wii?


Updated 06/19/2007

Nintendo to develop games as a 3rd Party for the Apple iPhone?

-Nintendo to develope games for the iPhone
-Games released on the iTunes Shop for about $29.99
-Games aimed at the "older-casual gamer"

Updated 06/29/2007

Beautiful Katamari PS3 canned in favor of Beautiful KatamarWii

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Namco Bandai revealed earlier this year that it was developing the next-generation Katamari Damacy sequel, Beautiful Katamari, for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Up until recently, the developer continued to work on both versions of the project. However, sources close to Namco Bandai tell IGN that the studio ran into some trouble with the port of the game to PlayStation 3 and these issues, coupled with the stalled sales of the system, have led to the project's quiet cancellation. Looking to better-than-expected sales of Wii, the company has, say insiders, re-shifted resources to ready a Wii build of Beautiful Katamari instead. Given that the title cannot be ported from Xbox 360, the game is being re-concepted for Wii.


Updated 07/08/2007

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Here's a nice juicy rumor:

Mario Kart will be revealed at E3, release in Europe in '07, US in '08, because SSBB will be delayed in Europe 'till '08.


Updated 07/19/2007

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Thanks to a comment by Falafelkid in one of his stories... and conveniently reported through GoNintendo...

Manhunt 2 to be allowed by Nintendo DESPITE AO rating?


Updated 08/17/2007

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
Source: The-MagicBox.com

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- RUMOR: Nintendo is planning to release a Famicom model of Wii and Nintendo DS in Japan, which will have the same color scheme used in the classic 8-bit Famicom console.



Updated 08/25/2007

Kingdom Hearts coming to the Wii!!??
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The latest rumor on the street is that, the wii is going to be getting some Kingdom Hearts loving from its creators. The first ever Kingdom Hearts game will be announced for the Wii at this years Tokyo Game show.

The previous Kingdom Hearts games has been exclusive to the PS2 with a Gameboy version thrown in. The developers have already confirmed the game will be coming for the next gen consoles.


Updated 09/09/2007

According to [Gaming-Age.com]http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2007/9/9-7[/l], it appears that the pack in game for the Wii is going to be Link's Crossbow Training.

Updated 09/15/2007

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
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Original source is Gamefront.de
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Is Nintendo planning a 'Nintendo Autumn Conference 2007'?

According to reports of japanese wholesale dealers Nintendo will hold the 'NAC 2007' on 10.10.07 in Tokyo. There should be several announcements, unveilings and a presentation of the upcoming lineup.

Nintendo has neither confirmed nor officially announced this conference.



Updated 09/23/2007

Rumor has it that this game has been officially announced through Nintendo Power (and everyone says they never have exclusives)

Here is the supposed text from the latest magazine
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“Long before Guitar Hero took the world by storm, cult classic Samba de Amigo (For Dreamcast and arcades) was helping gamers connect with the inner musicians. Players would shake a pair of plastic maracas (and occasionally strike a pose) as a sombero-wearing monkey and other bits of assorted madness danced around the screen. If that sounds like a perfect fit for Wii, Sega agrees; the publisher will bring a new installment in the series to Nintendo’s console sometime next year. Detailes are scarse, but you’ll shake the Wii remote and nunchuk as you would the maracas (naturally), and the soundtrack will feature a mix of new and classic tunes. Surprisingly, the developer on the title is Gearbox Software, best known for its work on the acclaimed Brothers in Arms franchise.”


Updated 09/25/2007

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Originally posted by: bustin98
Time to add the rumor of Viva Pinata: Party Animals heading to the Wii. (Via the 1Up Quarterman)


Updated 09/28/2007

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Originally posted by: Kenology
Dunno if someone posted this one yet, but according to EGM's Quatermann:

Final Fantasy Tactics director Yasumi Matsuno (who also conceived and directed Tactics Ogre [SNES] and Vagrant Story [PS1], etc...) is wrangling together some of his old pals who worked on past SRPG titlles like Ogre Battle (SNES) to piece together an exclusive Wii game very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics.

Please let this be a sequel to Tactics Ogre: March of the Black Queen!  And I'd rather be in the vien of Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen and Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Calibur as opposed to Tactics Ogre and FFT - but I'll take what I can get.  Damn I hope this is true...


Updated 10/17/2007

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Originally posted by: Kairon
OKAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!

THE FRENCH SAY SO! I LOVE THE FRENCH!

Please please please let this be true.....

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Originally posted by: decoyman
"Long dreamed by gamers, claimed in numerous rumors, Okami is finally confirmed on Wii. Slated for release in 2008, it is evidently based on the respectable Playstation 2 version that everyone is already familiar with, and lets you paint lines with the help of the Wiimote. A rumor originating with Capcom, and which is sure to charm Wii owners lacking in big-name titles."

(pant pant) phew! I'm sorry, that's the best I can do, and I don't think it's very good I apologize to any francophone who happens to come along and see my butchering of his/her language!

EDIT: Here's the other article, with my meager translation. AGAIN I'M SORRY OH PLEASE FORGIVE ME GAHHHHH....

"Despite its innovative universe and gameplay, Okami hasn't encountered the sales success that Capcom hoped of it on Sony's console. Probably in order to amortize its investment and to take advantage of its install base, Capcom announces the next outing of Okami on Wii. The question everyone is asking is obviously, who is going to take over development now that the original developer, Clover Studios, has closed its doors."


Updated 10/18/2007

Skies of Arcadia Sequel coming?
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A little out of left field, however, is news of Sega reviving Skies of Arcadia. The sky pirate RPG was criminally overlooked, despite releases on both Dreamcast and GameCube, but apparently Sega been quietly preparing a sequel to the swashbuckling adventure.


Updated 10/24/2007

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
More EGM rumours from the same batch the Skies rumour was yanked from:

~ Geist sequel in the works (would be rad)
~ It's A Wonderful World being localized

Also, Edge says Animal Crossing Wii to be MMO...Also of note in the article is the mention of a possible "Virtual Console" for the DS, in which we'd be able to play old Game Boy and Game Boy Color titles...


Updated 10/29/2007

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Originally posted by: Kairon
So.... Portal for Wii rumor?


Discuss      
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Garnee on July 09, 2006, 04:53:28 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

-Sonic is in Super Smash Bros. Brawl
-Sega Saturn, Neo Geo & Arcade roms may be coming to the Virtual Console
discuss


I thought you said a grain of salt, not the whole shaker!

Saturn ROMS = ISOs = Entire CDs = bigass.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: bustin98 on July 09, 2006, 05:07:40 PM
While I'm not a fan of Pokemon, I think that Nintendo needs to use the franchise on the home consoles like they do on the GB. Even take it one step further into a MMORPG. Could turn me into a fan (maybe).

I would love Resident Evil on Wii. And any other horror games, as long as they are well done. Using the RE4 engine makes sense, too.

While its nice to see some friends from Rare, I really want to hear what Zoonami is planning.

On a blog that I think many here visit, there is some speculation on some new Nintendo patents. One being on a shader tree, another being on emulation, with the last pertaining to adapting one system's APIs for another. I can see the last two being relevant in bringing Sega and NeoGeo games to the Wii, no matter what the original console is. No practical the patents are though, who knows.

Sounds like Square wants to make 2007 (or 2008) the year of FFVII. I think it would be cool to see the game ported to the DS, but I have little time for RPGs, and would rather play them on the big screen than the little ones. Ok, I am really considering FFIII, but thats different.

As long as Shiggy's new IP isn't a virtual garden where Nintendo sends you a random set of flowers and veggies every day, it should be cool. Pulse has several connotations to it, so its wide open.

I still feel the pain of Superman64.  I'm wary of any others.

Kojima is overrated IMHO. Unless he was making something really cool that his fans could get behind, I don't care what he does.

I don't want Tingle. Period. New side quest for Zelda is good. Even having new ones sent in over time would be great.

Thats all I feel like writing. But one more request. Someone needs to make a Wario game out of BlackNMild's icon. 'Follow the Jiggling Jugs'. Imagine using the Wiimote like drum sticks, patting each one and watching the bounce. It would be hypnotizing.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: capamerica on July 09, 2006, 05:33:39 PM
I'm not sure what your take on the CD games is Garnee. But to anyone who thinks that it won't happen, let me direct you twords XboxLive. XboxLive has 1.5GB game demos available so why can't Nintendo have a simple 650MB game on their Virtual Console?  I don't see any reason why full CD games can't be downloaded off of NintendoWiFi. Nintendo is suporting all size USB Drives and we have very large MemoryCards for the Wii.

All the rumors sound good to me. I do hope that the two bad news rumors turn out to be BS thou.
And if FFVII does happen for the DS, I totaly saw that coming! (check my topic on the GB/DS board =P )
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Kairon on July 09, 2006, 05:35:24 PM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
And if FFVII does happen for the DS, I totaly saw that coming! (check my topic on the GB/DS board =P )


Sorry, not gonna happen. PSP.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: BigJim on July 09, 2006, 05:51:17 PM
Playing CD based games off a memory card = ass.  Those things are too slow.

There's no guarantee of a large media drive for Wii either; it was only said to be possible due to the USB slot.

Meh, this is why I don't like rumor discussions.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: IceCold on July 09, 2006, 06:10:28 PM
Sounds like whoever wrote this just put together some things they'd like and then added the "negative" news to make it sound more believable. Also, since the controller is right down SEGA's alley, I expect NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon, one or two light gun games and maybe a racing game in there from them. But knowing SEGA, all bets are off..
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Athrun Zala on July 09, 2006, 06:59:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Garnee
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

-Sonic is in Super Smash Bros. Brawl
-Sega Saturn, Neo Geo & Arcade roms may be coming to the Virtual Console
discuss


I thought you said a grain of salt, not the whole shaker!

Saturn ROMS = ISOs = Entire CDs = bigass.
guess you didn't read the article, as it says Sega Saturn games, not roms (it does mention Arcade roms though)

and if FFIII is succesful (lol, like it won't) FFVII (and VIII and IX) could be coming to DS....
would make sense, as it would make the DS the home of most FFs....and it's to early to port X and XII anyways
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: mantidor on July 09, 2006, 06:59:56 PM
I thought that based on past experience any rumor that comes from my beloved native language should be dissmissed.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Mario on July 09, 2006, 07:01:12 PM
Probably all made up, but I hope Tingle is in TP. That would revive my interest in the game.

Sonic in SSBB better be fake, nobody likes Sonic anymore. New Capcom IP is definately fake lol.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: AnyoneEB on July 10, 2006, 01:31:59 AM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
Playing CD based games off a memory card = ass.  Those things are too slow.


Okay, flash is slow, but I am sure it beats the CD-drive in the Sega Saturn by quite a bit. A quick look at the SD wiki page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital ) shows that SD cards are rated in terms of CD speed for throughput (remember that flash has zero seek time) and that the fastest cards are 133x. The Sega Saturn uses a 2x CD drive. 133x (20 MB/s) is starting to challenge some harddrives. Of course, I do not know how fast the card-reader will be in the Wii, but I would expect it to support the latest spec.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Ceric on July 10, 2006, 02:24:37 AM
Knowing Nintendo it will be fast because there cool like that.  I'm sure Nintendo isn't going just to take a copy of the games and call it a day.  They've gotten really good at shrinking things down over the year.  So a Saturn game that use to take a full CD with new compression standards and the like could probably be shrunk to about half that with some reencoding of the video I would think.  Needless to say Compression technology has came a good ways since the days of the Saturn and I'm confident that Nintendo will take full benefit of it with all of the Virtual console games.  (Even the already itty-bitty ones.)  This goes back to my hope that they have a hardware compression solution onboard.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 10, 2006, 03:27:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Originally posted by: capamerica
And if FFVII does happen for the DS, I totaly saw that coming! (check my topic on the GB/DS board =P )


Sorry, not gonna happen. PSP.
I would think it would be really stupid of Square/enix to put a FFVII remake on the PSP, at this point. The DS is quite the cultural phenomenon, just like the original Playstation was. Why would they want to limit the game to a system that nobody owns?

Of course, if Sony slaps them with enough money it will make quite sense to them. But still the games availability would be severly curtailed to fans.
 
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2006, 03:37:12 AM
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas

Sorry, not gonna happen. PSP.
I would think it would be really stupid of Square/enix to put a FFVII remake on the PSP, at this point. The DS is quite the cultural phenomenon, just like the original Playstation was. Why would they want to limit the game to a system that nobody owns?

Of course, if Sony slaps them with enough money it will make quite sense to them. But still the games availability would be severly curtailed to fans.
Yeah, I think it would be like trying to push Wonderswan over the GBA again, and we all kow how that ended up...

If FFIII is the huge success everyone is suspecting it to be(I'll even buy it once I get my DS) then they would be stupid to release FFVII on PSP instead of on the DS. I'm sure they want to support the system with the highest userbase, so that thier games can reach the biggest audience possible, and in Japan DS is the obvious choice.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Terranigma Freak on July 10, 2006, 04:44:23 AM
Most of those rumors don't sound TOO fake, and some of them could be quite real indeed. My money's on Kojima canceling the Wii game to port it to PS3. That has the highest chance of being real.

And people... it's already confirmed that the Virtual Console will support CD based game systems. The Turbo Duo is supported on the Wii. It uses CDs. Of course they've only confirmed CD1 games, but it's still a CD game. Castlevania is a Super CD game just so you know, so we don't know if they'll support CD2 and Super CD yet.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 10, 2006, 07:55:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario Sonic in SSBB better be fake, nobody likes Sonic anymore.


I figure Sonic is a shoe-in.

People have wanted to see Sonic vs. Mario for so long now that I'd be stunned if he wasn't included in the game.

Contribution wise, Sonic makes infinitely more sense than Snake. Sonic's most successful games this gen have been on Nintendo platforms and Sega and Nintendo have worked together frequently, even outsourcing F-Zero to Amusement Vision.

Rumors abounded about Sonic being in Melee. This time, the "no 3rd party characters" rule has been broken so I can't possibly see him NOT being in the game.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Pale on July 10, 2006, 07:59:23 AM
I can't believe Mario said he needs tingle to revive his interest in Zelda.  In fact, I can't believe so many people are so down on Zelda...

Despite all this multiple version stuff... IT IS STILL FREAKING ZELDA WITH AWESOME NEW ART DIRECTION!  Ya know, that same game we all cheered about two e3s ago?  Yeah, it's still that.

Also, the Wii version does NOT suck... in fact it rocks pretty hard...

Edit:
Also, why can't Square release FFVII on both PSP and DS?  People are so caught up in exclusivity.  We are talking about the new Square here.. the one that wants to whore out FF more than it ever has before... and that means a WHOLE LOT!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Magik on July 10, 2006, 08:26:42 AM
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Originally posted by: capamerica
I'm not sure what your take on the CD games is Garnee. But to anyone who thinks that it won't happen, let me direct you twords XboxLive. XboxLive has 1.5GB game demos available so why can't Nintendo have a simple 650MB game on their Virtual Console?  I don't see any reason why full CD games can't be downloaded off of NintendoWiFi. Nintendo is suporting all size USB Drives and we have very large MemoryCards for the Wii.

All the rumors sound good to me. I do hope that the two bad news rumors turn out to be BS thou.
And if FFVII does happen for the DS, I totaly saw that coming! (check my topic on the GB/DS board =P )


It works for XBL because there's an actual harddrive available to store it.  All we know about the storage with the Wii is SD cards with the highest being just over 2GBs which is not a lot of space if the demos are really 1.5GB.  External Hard Drives are a possibility, but until Nintendo says its possible to use them, we can't really speculate based on it.

Nintendo's online service also will need the ability to resume downloads just as XBL allows to even consider allowing large downloads such as full ISOs.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: stevey on July 10, 2006, 08:33:37 AM
Sonic like snake was going to be in ssbm but they ran out of time so that most likely true and tingle souldn't be in tp unless link can kill him over and over...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 10, 2006, 08:49:42 AM
I figure this stuff is 99.9% false, give or take 0.1%.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: mantidor on July 10, 2006, 08:56:33 AM
I don't buy the Kojima rumor, he's too focused right now in MGS4 , I bet he hasn't even thought about the wii game, he probably has a concept and nothing more, and he has expressed his love for the wii more than one ocassion. MGS4 isn't even finished why would they port some game that probably doesnt  even have begun production from a console that hasn't been released yet to another that also hasn't been released?

The tingle rumor is kind of stupid also, why would they include it? the game is going to be used to sell the console, Tingle present will hardly increased sales and probably risk a few of them, and thats Nintendo focus right now, to sell consoles not to make the best game ever, the game already has a couple of freaks anyway.

The only rumor I buy is Sonic in brawl but thats not even a rumor is more like "duh!".
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 10, 2006, 09:10:24 AM
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Originally posted by: mantidor The tingle rumor is kind of stupid also, why would they include it? the game is going to be used to sell the console, Tingle present will hardly increased sales and probably risk a few of them, and thats Nintendo focus right now, to sell consoles not to make the best game ever, the game already has a couple of freaks anyway.


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Does this mean you've reevaluated your opinion on the subject of TP Wii?

And I can't imagine Sonic being passed up. He's the only 3rd party character which many believed that SSBM would have made an exception for in order to include him in the game.

He has been Mario's "rival" since the dawn of the 16-bit era and he has been quite successful on Nintendo platforms (Sonic Adventures, Sonic Rush, and soon, Sonic Wildfire).

If Hideo Kojima can ask and get Snake put into the game, I'm sure Sega would ask to get Sonic into the game and they have far, far more of a right to ask such a thing.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 10, 2006, 10:00:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale

Also, the Wii version does NOT suck... in fact it rocks pretty hard...
Oh comon, it's just typical Nintendo is d00m3d type stuff. Nothing to get in a hissy fit over.

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Also, why can't Square release FFVII on both PSP and DS?  People are so caught up in exclusivity.  We are talking about the new Square here.. the one that wants to whore out FF more than it ever has before... and that means a WHOLE LOT!
Hm... perhaps for the same reasons why the n64 version was never made? Loss of popularity, internal company conflict, and problematic hardware.

Seeing as Nintendo DS Lite hardware is still selling 150,000+ units per week at retail with, [edit:] what i've read as most retailers selling at over a 50% markup... I'd say Square really only has to worry about perfecting a DS version of FFVII. The PSP port can come later, if at all.

Edit: Ok, I guess i'll mark this as blatent bias. It's not intentional flame bait, just my obvious fanboy side showing up.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 10, 2006, 10:05:50 AM
I don't see why Square would be inclined to work so hard to bring the game to the PSP when the PSP has such a god-awful tie in ratio and only sells decently in the US where FF games aren't nearly as well received as they are in Japan...where the PSP is doing horrible.

If anything, the ONE game which should have done extremely well on the console was GTA:LCS because the US is the PSP's target audience for games. And yet, LCS tanked so badly on the PSP that Rockstar ported it to the PS2 to recoup losses.

The only FF game I see them remaking is FFIII on the DS. After the no doubt exceptional sales the game will have, I can't see any reason why they wouldn't bring other FF games to the console as well.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: ruby_onix on July 10, 2006, 11:14:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Garnee
Saturn ROMS = ISOs = Entire CDs = bigass.

I think it makes perfect sense for old cart-based games to be available by download, with CD-based games being custom made (by Nintendo) mail-order reprints.

The old carts were expensive to make way back when, and now they're even more expensive because all the facilities have been destroyed. ROMs are all they have left. Anyone with CD-based games can make as many more of them as they want for less than $0.25 each at the snap of their fingers, provided all the licencing issues are out of the way. And that's on top of the obvious "carts = puny downloads, CDs = massive downloads" thing.

And there's nothing physically preventing the Wii (once it has all the appropriate emulators in place, which is supposedly will) from playing any of the CD-based games. The DVD specs supposedly even require CD support (although not necassarily CD-R support), so if the Wii has an optional attachment allowing DVD movie playback, it must be able to play CDs.

The only problem is that everybody on the entire Internet seems to think that Nintendo is deathly afraid of allowing people to put TGCD and Sega CD and Saturn CDs into their Wii, from a piracy standpoint, and they're also unwilling to allow anyone to play their existing old games on the Wii, from the greed standpoint and wanting to sell games twice, to the few people who already have those games. So people think they won't.

Hey Nintendo, how'd that greed and fear of piracy work out for you on the GameCube?

Nintendo could combat PlayStation by having full 100% Sega Saturn backwards compatibility. But they're afraid of it. Please Nintendo, prove us wrong.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2006, 11:23:07 AM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Nintendo could combat PlayStation by having full 100% Sega Saturn backwards compatibility. But they're afraid of it. Please Nintendo, prove us wrong.
Now wouldn't it be realy funny if Nintendo "accidentally" leaked a Wii compatible PS1 emulator, and pretended to not know where it came from or how it got on the Wii.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 10, 2006, 12:10:53 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix

The only problem is that everybody on the entire Internet seems to think that Nintendo is deathly afraid of allowing people to put TGCD and Sega CD and Saturn CDs into their Wii, from a piracy standpoint, and they're also unwilling to allow anyone to play their existing old games on the Wii, from the greed standpoint and wanting to sell games twice, to the few people who already have those games. So people think they won't.
Which old games won't we be able to play? If you're going to hold it against Nintendo for not letting you "register" the NES games you already own, then you'd better hang NEC and Sega if they don't let you "register" their games as well! OMG Sega and NEC are trying to get another sale off of me! GREEEEEEED~~~!~!~~~~

Speaking of piracy why don't you ask, Sega, how that anti-piracy stuff worked out for them...  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 10, 2006, 12:23:35 PM
Technically, you are buying another product.  You are buying the ROM in a downloadable form which can be played on the new Nintendo Wii system.

So, it isn't greed.  

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: ruby_onix on July 10, 2006, 12:46:06 PM
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Which old games won't we be able to play?

My entire TGCD, Sega CD, and Saturn game collection (meager as they are), for instance.

Just because I have those games, it doesn't mean I won't increase my collections with new Wii-inspired purchases. Or that newbies won't get into those games. Nintendo wants the newbies. And they want me to grow my collection. And they want me to re-buy everything I already have, or get pissed off and tell them to take a hike. One of those three doesn't seem to be worth it for Nintendo.

Letting you play your existing game collections on the Wii will only spur hardware sales.

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If you're going to hold it against Nintendo for not letting "register" the NES games you already own, then you'd better hang NEC and Sega if they don't let you "register" their games as well!

I won't complain about having to re-buy my Master System, TG-16, or Genesis games. I didn't complain about having to re-buy GBA ports. It's unfortunate that hardware restrictions got in the way, but I can understand that.

I will complain if Nintendo doesn't let me download NES games for free if I've registered my NES Classic GBA games with them, because they were forward thinking enough to let you register them in the first place. I did complain when Nintendo yanked GB/GBC support from the DS and micro. I will complain if the Wii can't play a simple CD.

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Speaking of piracy why don't you ask, Sega, how that anti-piracy stuff worked out for them...

The Dreamcast was dead and cancelled long before it's piracy scene exploded. The Saturn was virtually unaffected. If anything, piracy pushed hardware sales on the PlayStation, and it became a juggernaut, which is what killed the Dreamcast.

I am in favor of restricting piracy. But you're not supposed to shoot yourself in the foot or tie your own hands while doing it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: AnyoneEB on July 10, 2006, 02:21:49 PM
Spak-Spang: Except, that would mean Nintendo is making it difficult for you to exercise your fair-use rights under US (and probably other) copyright law. If you could figure out how to do so, it would be perfectly legal to play your old Saturn/other disc games and even your old cartridge-based games on the Wii. Then again, it is quite simple to buy a GBA flash cart and load emulators/ROMs onto it, but the Super Mario Advance games did quite well. I assume that while Nintendo may be encouraging independent developers, they will be very much against home-brew programs which could be emulators. Also, I assume that the VC ROMs will be encrypted like the iTMS music. Of course, I cannot really complain about those measures because they are quite reasonable for anti-piracy. If I really want to play Saturn games off CDs on my TV, I can hook up a regular computer and a USB adapter for whatever console's controller I want to use.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Kairon on July 10, 2006, 03:09:16 PM
It's hard to recommend Nintendo games to my relatives in the philippines because everyone there just pirates everything, and it's much easier to pirate the PS2...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Kairon on July 10, 2006, 03:16:27 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
I did complain when Nintendo yanked GB/GBC support from the DS and micro. I will complain if the Wii can't play a simple CD.


I think you're being quite unreasonable here. You can't rail against the unstoppable march of future tech that isn't backward's compatible. Heck, I can't find a floppy drive anywhere in my dorm to let me install Civilization on my computer, and after I worked so hard to track down an actual original copy! Oh, not to mention that Windows XP completely refuses to run the entire DOS game library, like the beloved Monkey Island games, or Lode Runner or the aforementioned Civ.

But I'm not complaining. That's just the nature of technology, and even of life. Heck, I can't "re-play" my elementary school years, and its just the nature of things, lives, and treasured heirlooms to be lost to merciless time and live on only in memory. And I don't see why it should be any different for game consoles.

Besides, this is a business, and people with big retro collections are an insignificant niche. *shrug* That's just the way the world works, in my opinion.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 10, 2006, 03:19:39 PM
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Originally posted by: AnyoneEB

Spak-Spang: Except, that would mean Nintendo is making it difficult for you to exercise your fair-use rights under US (and probably other) copyright law.
Except, you know, that problem where the copyright law says nothing about the copyright holder having to furnish you with copies. You get to copy, backup, archive the media that you physically bought and that's it. You don't get copies provided to you and you don't have claim on Nintendo's VC copy, even if it's a binary match. You don't even have to go to a lawyer for this stuff.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: ruby_onix on July 10, 2006, 05:04:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I think you're being quite unreasonable here. You can't rail against the unstoppable march of future tech that isn't backward's compatible. Heck, I can't find a floppy drive anywhere in my dorm to let me install Civilization on my computer, and after I worked so hard to track down an actual original copy! Oh, not to mention that Windows XP completely refuses to run the entire DOS game library, like the beloved Monkey Island games, or Lode Runner or the aforementioned Civ.

Floppy drives became obsolete, so I can accept that they cut them (although you can still get them on new computers if you want, but that doesn't contribute to this discussion).

If your computer has a floppy drive, but it still can't run Monkey Island or Civ 1 (which is true of Windows XP), then I think that's bogus (and I blame Microsoft). The DS and micro have GBC-compatible cart slots. They're not obsolete, because the GBA still uses them quite well. The Wii has a TGCD/Sega CD/Saturn-compatible disc drive, AND it knows how to use it (which is more than we can say about Windows XP and the DS/micro), but it (probably) won't. The word for that is "crippleware".

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Originally posted by: AnyoneEB
Spak-Spang: Except, that would mean Nintendo is making it difficult for you to exercise your fair-use rights under US (and probably other) copyright law. If you could figure out how to do so, it would be perfectly legal to play your old Saturn/other disc games and even your old cartridge-based games on the Wii.

Nintendo locking out, or failing to provide, native CD game support doesn't impact your ability to mod your Wii and load it up with emulators and play old games. It's just that if they did provide CD game support, there would be no need for the mod.


Edit: And if the Wii was functional as TGCD/Sega CD/Saturn hardware, those systems would lose their status as abandonware, and you'd lose your legal right to break the copy protection on those systems' games as provided by the DMCA.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 10, 2006, 05:18:37 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix

The Wii has a TGCD/Sega CD/Saturn-compatible disc drive, AND it knows how to use it (which is more than we can say about Windows XP and the DS/micro), but it (probably) won't. The word for that is "crippleware".
Wow. That takes the cake.

We've got a Nintendo fan here that is fuming mad because his Nintendo system doesn't play its competitors games.  
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Post by: Athrun Zala on July 10, 2006, 05:23:47 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
It's hard to recommend Nintendo games to my relatives in the philippines because everyone there just pirates everything, and it's much easier to pirate the PS2...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
sadly, that seems to be common in most 3rd World countries.......obviously, you can only expect so much given the economical situation (in each one)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: ruby_onix on July 10, 2006, 05:30:19 PM
The Wii will play it's (former) competitors games. I'm bothered by the idea that it won't play them right (I'm used to having high expectations from Nintendo), and I like the idea of buying tangible things more than buying downloads.

When I'm on WiiConnect24, I want a button beside "Download: Panzer Dragoon Saga" which says "Order Hard Copy". And I don't care if it costs slightly more (plus postage) and comes in a new jewel case that has a Nintendo logo on the back. But I want it to be a real Saturn game.
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Post by: IceCold on July 10, 2006, 05:40:42 PM
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Letting you play your existing game collections on the Wii will only spur hardware sales
Yet it will curb software sales and profit. As it is the Virtual Console has the potential to lower the tie-in ratio if that is all people use; this would devastate it.
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Post by: Kairon on July 10, 2006, 05:47:45 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
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Originally posted by: Kairon
I think you're being quite unreasonable here. You can't rail against the unstoppable march of future tech that isn't backward's compatible. Heck, I can't find a floppy drive anywhere in my dorm to let me install Civilization on my computer, and after I worked so hard to track down an actual original copy! Oh, not to mention that Windows XP completely refuses to run the entire DOS game library, like the beloved Monkey Island games, or Lode Runner or the aforementioned Civ.

Floppy drives became obsolete, so I can accept that they cut them (although you can still get them on new computers if you want, but that doesn't contribute to this discussion).

If your computer has a floppy drive, but it still can't run Monkey Island or Civ 1 (which is true of Windows XP), then I think that's bogus (and I blame Microsoft). The DS and micro have GBC-compatible cart slots. They're not obsolete, because the GBA still uses them quite well. The Wii has a TGCD/Sega CD/Saturn-compatible disc drive, AND it knows how to use it (which is more than we can say about Windows XP and the DS/micro), but it (probably) won't. The word for that is "crippleware".


Hmmmm...

To begin with, the Wii drive CANNOT read TGCD, Sega CD, nor Saturn games. That's just crazy. It's compatible with GC discs (which are almost opposite of any other disc out there, as far as I know) and Wii's own discs (probably DVD-format discs read in a similar manner to the GC's discs? Just a guess) but that's it. Can you imagine the technical mayhem in constructing a drive that can read not just those two alien formats, but also 3 deas-as-a-doornail-formats?

Also, the GameBoy hardware was being held back immensely by backwards compatibility.A big reason that Nintendo's handheld hardware has been lackluster is not just because of battery consumption issues, but also because by the when GBC came out a full SEVEN years after the GB first came out, all it amolunted to was a very thin sheen over the regular GB hardware.

Also, the GBA could only support GBC and before games due to a COMPLETELY SEPERATE legacy chipset being included. This is tantamount to including a PS2 with every PS3. The new hardware is just too different too make native backwards compatibility feasible. Not to mention that including a seperate legacy chipset drives up the price, or forces you to cut corners. Note that the non-inclusion of a legacy 15+ year old chipset is the reason that the DS cannot play GBC or GB games: the hardware simply doesn't exist in the system. The GB slot is there purely for GBA games, not for, like you suppose, GBC or GB games.

Basically, I believe that forcing backwards compatibility is a drag on the future.

For example: the Pokemon games. The uninterrupted line of Pokemon in the games makes each consecutive version less flexible than it could be, and only prolongs certain imbalances in the earlier games. It also prevents new ways to technical conceptualize Pokemon stats and data, a nd overall dilutes the experiences of later versions. I actually want Pokemon: Pearl & Diamond to NOT be backwards compatible so that they can rebalance everything in the game, re-tune the Pokemon stat system and rethink the move and ability libraries. Pokemon is, to me, a very real example of a game that is stagnating because it is being held to compatibility with its past.

Likewise, I think that demanding backwards compatibility from systems is not only impractical (once you see how it was actually done on the Gameboy, and after seeing the three different approaches MS, Nintendo and Sony are taking to backwards compatibility this next-gen: GC-similarity in Wii hardware, Game-by-game emulation for the X360 and possibly packing in a PS2 with every PS3) but ALSO holding games (like Pokemon) back and not letting the future blazes new trails.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Kairon on July 10, 2006, 05:54:09 PM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
The Wii will play it's (former) competitors games. I'm bothered by the idea that it won't play them right (I'm used to having high expectations from Nintendo), and I like the idea of buying tangible things more than buying downloads.


Of course it won't play Sega games or TG-FX games right... I mean, heck. They're not Nintendo games, they never CAN be played right, even on their native hardware.

Oh, and I also share your urge for tangible things, I believe in having a CD collection (though I'm just getting started on mine), but unfortunately the future is moving towards digital distribution, which is actually better for most everyone in the content chain and allows for a more fluid and dynamic flow of ideas at lower cost.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: ruby_onix on July 10, 2006, 06:42:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
To begin with, the Wii drive CANNOT read TGCD, Sega CD, nor Saturn games. That's just crazy. It's compatible with GC discs (which are almost opposite of any other disc out there, as far as I know) and Wii's own discs (probably DVD-format discs read in a similar manner to the GC's discs? Just a guess) but that's it. Can you imagine the technical mayhem in constructing a drive that can read not just those two alien formats, but also 3 deas-as-a-doornail-formats?

As I mentioned earlier, the Revolution's drive was announced to be DVD-compatible (with an "unlocking" attachment, to avoid fees). The DVD specs supposedly demand CD reading ability. AFAIK, CD-R's, CD-RW's, and PSX discs are different enough to require a second laser. That's why Sony built a custom 2-in-1 laser for the PS2 which caused a bunch of DRE's. But there are $25 DVD players at Wallmart that can play CD and DVD and CD-R and CD-RW, and MP3, and all that kind of stuff, simply by including two lasers. It's apparently not that expensive to have two lasers (or Dolby Digital ports).

The Cube discs are just a slightly different form of mini-DVD. After they finally came out with that Cube modchip, people supposedly got it to read mini-DVD's. And the GameCube GameShark supposedly comes on a (specially written) plain old mini-CD, not mini-DVD or GameCube disc. So the Cube's laser apparently doesn't sweat the CD/DVD difference.

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Also, the GBA could only support GBC and before games due to a COMPLETELY SEPERATE legacy chipset being included. This is tantamount to including a PS2 with every PS3. The new hardware is just too different too make native backwards compatibility feasible. Not to mention that including a seperate legacy chipset drives up the price, or forces you to cut corners. Note that the non-inclusion of a legacy 15+ year old chipset is the reason that the DS cannot play GBC or GB games: the hardware simply doesn't exist in the system. The GB slot is there purely for GBA games, not for, like you suppose, GBC or GB games.

The GBC supported the GB (and gave it color even) through emulation. Emulators for all these systems will already be included within the Wii (not all games will be ported to/enhanced on the Wii, because a lot of the dev teams and source codes are long gone). It's just a matter of reading from the main drive instead of the flash RAM or whatever happens to be inserted into the USB ports (which could theoretically even be an external CD drive).


Edit: Actually, the main issue is Nintendo's copy protection. It's widely believed that Nintendo will encrypt every single download so it can only play on the same piece of hardware which you used to place your order. And if you can play the original unencrypted games, then what's stopping you from playing ROMs that some warez hacker on IRC has decrypted? But really, if you're going to play ROMs, there are far easier ways to do that than hunting down some custom-decrypted Wii versions. And then there are all those Sega CD bootlegs sarcasm. I know they exist, but who in their right mind would bootleg Snatcher if you can buy a 100% legit version for $15 from a trustworthy source at the click of a button? That's what I mean about Nintendo tying their own hands.

Regardless of the encryption/decryption issue, I do want to be able to order hard copies of the games, and plug them into the front drive. But without them being actual "new" legacy games (new games playable on old hardware, and vice-versa), they lose something. And that automatically translates into lost dollars for Nintendo.


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They're not Nintendo games, they never CAN be played right, even on their native hardware.

Zing!  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Terranigma Freak on July 11, 2006, 02:44:28 AM
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I don't buy the Kojima rumor, he's too focused right now in MGS4 , I bet he hasn't even thought about the wii game, he probably has a concept and nothing more, and he has expressed his love for the wii more than one ocassion. MGS4 isn't even finished why would they port some game that probably doesnt even have begun production from a console that hasn't been released yet to another that also hasn't been released?


Miyamoto himself is usually involved with more than 10 games at a time. I don't see how Kojima couldn't be involved in multiple projects. Just cause the console's not done yet doesn't mean they can't start working on the game. If people wait till the consoles is out to make games, we'd be sitting with a useless console for months without a single game to play.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Pale on July 11, 2006, 03:01:06 AM
Ruby, you really show some of your ignorance in calling Wii crippleware because it won't play your old discs.  You sound like you think Nintendo went out of their way to lock out such a possibility.  Don't you think booting to a disc and booting to what is essentially an OS loading what are most likely specially prepared ROMs into a specially prepared emulator are different things?  Nintendo isn't going out of it's way to screw people over.  The amount of work required to add that capability is not a financially sound decision given how few people will have those discs.

All of your other examples point to reasons where it is financially smart.  Millions of people have GBA games, so a GBA slot in the DS makes sense.  Don't be so silly in your extreme negativity.  If you honestly think Nintendo is going out of its way to ruin your day, you need to wake up.
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Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2006, 03:08:29 AM
Some old systems can be very timing-dependent so the Wii's faster drive could cause problems.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on July 11, 2006, 03:31:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale The amount of work required to add that capability is not a financially sound decision given how few people will have those discs.


But all 13 Saturn owners will be crushed and hate Nintendo forever!

Seriously, he's right.

Nintendo supporting these old games at all is a boon as it is. Be thankful that we have the chance to play them on our Wiis, period.  
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Post by: Ceric on July 11, 2006, 04:06:15 AM
I want to play NiGHTs into Dreams.  I got a Saturn just to do that but I haven't actually got the game yet.  That being said.  The Saturn had a weird architecture to begin with.  I think it would be very hard to emulate.  In fact Everyone is just assuming Nintendo is going to have support for the Saturn.  If someone can link me to an article that has an announcement of Saturn Support I'll be quiet about it.

Now on the Hard copy thing.  I could see, if there is enough interest , you being able to buy VC games and then getting a compilation disc with them all on it for a nominal fee.  In fact if I were Nintendo I keep track of the most popular VC games and sell a compilation disc that cost slightly more then the games would be bought straight.  Release it annually and put in best ranked, most popular, etc etc.  Throw in some random series to peak interest.  Yeah.  That be for all of us people who won't have the means to get online.  That could work.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: couchmonkey on July 11, 2006, 04:24:58 AM
Wow, when did everyone get so demanding about backwards compatability?  I mean, Xbox 360 can't even play a ton of Xbox games, that's a serious issue.  But now I'm hearing people whining that PS3 will be region locked if you're playing PS2 and PSX games, who cares?  They're OLD, and the games were region locked in the first place!  Now Nintendo is killing us all by not including backwards compatability with OTHER companies' game systems?  I mean, Microsoft's backwards compatability is still half-broken, and Sony apparently had to stuff PS2 hardware in alongside PS3 hardware to get backwards compatability working.  Should Nintendo go to those lengths to play Saturn games?

Heck, why stop there?  I demand CD-I backwards compatability!  I want to play Wand of Gamelon and Hotel Mario, dammit!  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 11, 2006, 04:46:18 AM
I think the problem is that people seem to be confusing the Wii for the Yoshi Box because it promises emulation of older systems.

That's not technically backwards compatibility, it's emulation. You can't ask Nintendo to make their system "backwards compatible" with a competing console from years back.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: 31 Flavas on July 11, 2006, 05:03:32 AM
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Originally posted by: couchmonkey

Now Nintendo is killing us all by not including backwards compatability with OTHER companies' game systems?
Yea, I know. It's amazing what Nintendo has to do these days to not be considered "d0o0o0o0oMmmM3d!". Cleaning house at E3, providing your entire backcatalog, and a $200 price point just arn't enough these days. They've got to run their competiors original cd media as well as provide new hard pressed copies of these games, as well.
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Post by: Donutt007 on July 11, 2006, 08:03:16 AM
So here's somethings I'm starting to wonder. I'm sure they'll set it up so the games that you download from the VC can only be played on your system. Otherwise people will just be bootlegging and selling them all over the place.

Now what happens if for some reason your system goes bad. Although I've never had a nintendo system die on me before, say my buddy spills a beer on it, I punch him in the face and make him buy me a new one....do I need to punch him some more and make him rebuy the games?

Or will it know that I purchased them and reinstall them for me?

Hell are the games even stored on the machine or will they be in an online account type thing?

It would be pretty cool if they were in an online account. Then you could go to your buddy's house hop on their Wii, type in your password and play the games you purchased.
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Post by: 31 Flavas on July 11, 2006, 08:41:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Donutt007

Now what happens if for some reason your system goes bad. Although I've never had a nintendo system die on me before, say my buddy spills a beer on it, I punch him in the face and make him buy me a new one....do I need to punch him some more and make him rebuy the games?
Granted we still know next to nothing about how the VC works both technically and from a market place stand point. That said though, its probably going to be a combination of encryption/DRM and online database connectivity. It would give increased flexability for the user and increased security for Nintendo/Sega/NEC and the individual game developer.

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Post by: ruby_onix on July 11, 2006, 09:13:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale
Ruby, you really show some of your ignorance in calling Wii crippleware because it won't play your old discs.  You sound like you think Nintendo went out of their way to lock out such a possibility.  Don't you think booting to a disc and booting to what is essentially an OS loading what are most likely specially prepared ROMs into a specially prepared emulator are different things?

Do you think that it's any more difficult for the emulator to load from the DVD drive than something like say, a USB hard drive (which has been pretty much confirmed)?

The definition of crippleware is something that's not living up to it's potential, because they want to charge you for it. The "special preparations" on those ROMs (assuming there are any, as we're all just assuming here) are going to be there for piracy reasons, not to make the games work.

If all the pieces are in place (original games, CD drive, fully-licenced compatible hardware via emulation, a good controller), and it can't be a substitute for the original hardware, then it's either crippleware (if what they really want is for me to buy my games twice), or it's got self-crippling anti-piracy features.

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Nintendo isn't going out of it's way to screw people over.  The amount of work required to add that capability is not a financially sound decision given how few people will have those discs.

All of your other examples point to reasons where it is financially smart.  Millions of people have GBA games, so a GBA slot in the DS makes sense.  Don't be so silly in your extreme negativity.  If you honestly think Nintendo is going out of its way to ruin your day, you need to wake up.

I don't know how much it would cost to add a Z80 chip to the GBA chip they already added to the DS. But even if it is a lot, they could've tried emulation. There are fan-made GBC emulators that run on the GBA.

And how many millions of people do you think will download VC versions of TG-16 games?

I spoke to a couple of older gamers when the VC news broke, and most are concerned about the life left in their old hardware. Most of them said that if the Rev/Wii qualified as new Sega CD/TGCD hardware, and that it had S-video/Component outputs, they'd buy one at launch, regardless of any revolutionary games. A hardware sale is a hardware sale, and I doubt that non-gaming grandmothers will do more for the Wii's attach rate than these people.

Yes, if the VC is a locked download-only system, that's something unheard of and it's better than nothing. But it'll be falling short of it's potential, and that will make me sad.
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Post by: Kairon on July 11, 2006, 09:25:21 AM
Regardless, this is still a huge niche issue. And catering to such a small niche would only be a distraction from all of the other things that Nintendo gets to do right. Not to mention it's a headache of a technical issue too, and probably a legal issue that Nintendo probably doesn't have time to work out before launch.

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A hardware sale is a hardware sale


Tell that to the PSP.

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Post by: Ceric on July 11, 2006, 02:48:20 PM
You know what.  No one's moaned about this and it makes sense.  I want Virtual Boy games on my Virtual Console.  The Stand for my Virtual Boy broke and I liked a good amount of the games.  So I want to play them on the Wii.  Even if it's just on an ordinary screen.
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Post by: AnyoneEB on July 11, 2006, 03:44:59 PM
ruby_onix: As I understand the GBC's hardware, it does not need to emulate the GB. It just has extra options for games to put it into color mode and use the IR port. I believe GBA did use separate hardware to cover GB/GBC support, although its processor is plenty powerful to do so in software and they could have done so on the DS and Micro. Actually, I am not sure exactly how the hardware is designed. It may be possible to create a DS card with a GBC emulator on it. (I do not know if the GBA and GBC cart reading hardware differs.) It certainly would have been quite possible for Nintendo to include a GBC emulator on the ROM chip on the Micro, although it would have required some extra work, which they (probably correctly) deemed unprofitable.

I know Nintendo is in no way bound to helping people run old games on new hardware, but trying to make it as difficult as possible (illegal under DMCA somehow?) to play those old discs which require no hardware modifications to be playable and then resell the exact same games sounds greedy to me.

I assume that any encryption of Wii VC ROMs will be for making it difficult to get ROMs onto your Wii (or onto your friend's Wii) as opposed to making it difficult to get them off. Nintendo is well aware that the ROMs are in the wild and surely has no illusions that they can keep illegal ROMs off the internet.

Just a note on the DMCA: Technically, the DMCA has a clause allowing an except for interopability, so, no matter what it takes to get your Saturn ROMs onto your Wii, it is perfectly legal to do so. On the other hand, if you widely distribute how to do so, I hope you have deep pockets for the lawyer's fees.
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Post by: Strell on July 11, 2006, 05:08:22 PM
People are bitching about BC?

I hope none of you own a 360 or a PS2 then.  You must be in shambles over them.
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Post by: Mikintosh on July 11, 2006, 05:54:40 PM
I think Nintendo doesn't feel a huge commitment to provide backwards capability to old platforms because the percentage of their current consumers who own any of them is a small fraction. They haven't even sold Game Boy Color games for almost 5 years (I got Pokemon Crystal right before they died out), and the used game market isn't that extensive.

I'd probably like the compilation disk personally, but I don't see them doing it as it's the exact opposite of the iTunes structure that Nintendo said it's trying to emulate. It's cheaper to distribute these things online without packaging, etc.
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Post by: couchmonkey on July 12, 2006, 02:32:49 AM
Now Virtual Boy backwards compatability - I can see them ignoring it for the same reason as Saturn backwards compatability, in fact it might be even harder to do since the code was probably designed specifically for the Virtual Boy's unique display.  Having said all that, I'd love to see it.  I mean, VBs must be hard to come by nowdays, and since it's one of Nintendo's own systems I see it as a more important omission than Saturn.

So err, I would love to see it, heck I'd love to see Saturn too, but I don't expect either.
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Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2006, 02:41:27 AM
Personally, I'm hoping against hope for Sega CD and TG-FX CD virtual console support... but I know it's a futile effort... *sniff*

edit: I meant to say that I hope they sell Sega CD and TG-FX CD games on the virtual console so that I can download them and play them. I never owned a Sega Genesis, CD, or TG-FX, so I have no qualms whatsoever about paying for games I never owned before.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com  
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Post by: stevey on July 12, 2006, 09:45:50 AM
I would love to play all of my dreamcast games and all 2 sega cd games on the wii and much as next sega fanboy, but sega would make way more money making collection, ports, remakes and they would get next to nothing in money by adding support since it isn't their system.
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Post by: Kairon on July 12, 2006, 09:55:37 AM
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Originally posted by: stevey
I would love to play all of my dreamcast games and all 2 sega cd games on the wii and much as next sega fanboy, but sega would make way more money making collection, ports, remakes and they would get next to nothing in money by adding support since it isn't their system.


A good reason not to blame Nintendo: blame Sega.

~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Mikintosh on July 12, 2006, 11:37:24 AM
I think this was said earlier; Dreamcast and other bigger games probably won't be included because they'd take too much space for the Wii to save on whatever they save the games on. Genesis and prior games are comparatively smaller.
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Post by: Crimm on July 12, 2006, 12:30:26 PM
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Originally posted by: Mikintosh
I think this was said earlier; Dreamcast and other bigger games probably won't be included because they'd take too much space for the Wii to save on whatever they save the games on. Genesis and prior games are comparatively smaller.


The only real way Dreamcast, or heck Saturn games, would be Wii compatable would be disk-read emulation.

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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 14, 2006, 04:55:02 AM
NEW Rumors straight from the EGM rumor mill *more salt needed*

If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii

& SquareEnix is working on a MMORPG in the Mana Universe

and one for the DS because I don't want to start another thread
Mother(Earthbound) Compilation for DS complete with Touchscreen capabilities.
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If either of the first two have any truth to them, such as DQ is also coming to Wii or a NEW Mana game is coming to Wii, it is definately very very good news, especially if exclusive and/or MMO

as for the DS rumor, I would guess that this is great news as I've never played the game and I have no idea how much Japan or the U.S loves Mother/Eathbound.    
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Post by: couchmonkey on July 14, 2006, 07:46:41 AM
The DQ rumour is kind of silly.  If the two games sell 10 million copies each, then of course Square Enix would consider putting DQ IX on the Wii exclusively.  How well is "'well"?

Still, those are all fun rumours, even if I don't believe them.  I'd LOVE to see a DS complication of the Earthbound games, I'm even willing to bet they'd release it here.
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Post by: Kairon on July 14, 2006, 07:48:16 AM
Well... we know what we have to do then don't we?

...j/k

~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Luigi Dude on July 14, 2006, 09:00:03 AM
Even though the Dragon Quest rumor doesn't sound right, the Wii probobly will get Dragon Quest IX in the future.  The Dragon Quest series is the most popular series in Japan and Enix now SquareEnix will only put it on the most popular system in Japan.  From everything we've seen the Wii is looking to easily win the Japanese market.  If the Wii becomes like the DS and just dominates sales in Japan over the PS3 over the next year then Dragon Quest IX will be announced for the Wii.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 14, 2006, 10:49:08 AM
If I was Nintendo after sales of the Wii break records in Japan...I would negotiate for exclusive rights to Dragon Quest IX.  I would offer a buttload of money, and perhaps give SquareEnix the funding and right to create a new Zelda traditional RPG or something like that.  

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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 14, 2006, 11:52:30 AM
Zelda RPG = NO NO NO!

If anything I'd like to see another Mario RPG from them, but please spare Zelda from the genre...
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Post by: EasyCure on July 14, 2006, 11:56:30 AM
i would pee myself if the earthbound rumor was true (well, if true and 100% confirmed that it was coming to the US)
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Post by: Kairon on July 14, 2006, 12:21:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Zelda RPG = NO NO NO!

If anything I'd like to see another Mario RPG from them, but please spare Zelda from the genre...


QFT.

Keep Zelda pure. Only Nintendo and...uh...Capcom...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
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Post by: Smash_Brother on July 14, 2006, 02:22:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
If I was Nintendo after sales of the Wii break records in Japan...I would negotiate for exclusive rights to Dragon Quest IX.  I would offer a buttload of money, and perhaps give SquareEnix the funding and right to create a new Zelda traditional RPG or something like that.


They're already having them make 3 on 3.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more collaborations in the future.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 14, 2006, 03:17:29 PM
Nintendo isn't making them make anything...It was SE's idea in the first place...
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 14, 2006, 03:29:59 PM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
i would pee myself if the earthbound rumor was true (well, if true and 100% confirmed that it was coming to the US)
I think the main point of the Earthbound bundle was to localize it and release it in the U.S.. I remember hearing that that is why NOA was hesitant to release EB3 here in the states for GBA, they want to kill off the GBA and push sales of the DS Lite instead. So here comes a rumor of a compilation...

& no one has anything to say about a Secret of Mana MMO?
I've never played an MMO but I have very fond memories of SoM & I would buy it just to try it out.

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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 14, 2006, 03:45:33 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I remember hearing that that is why NOA was hesitant to release EB3 here in the states for GBA, they want to kill off the GBA and push sales of the DS Lite instead.

Earthbound 3 doesn't exist...

Oh, and I hate MMORPGs with a passion so I doubt the Mana series will change my mind on the matter...I'd just like a traditional Mana game, thanks!
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Post by: Smash_Brother on July 15, 2006, 04:02:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion It was SE's idea in the first place...


It was?!?

Then that bodes even better for not only SE and Nintendo's future together but for the appearance of a FF character in SSBB.
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Post by: mantidor on July 15, 2006, 04:48:44 PM
I just hope nothing FF related ever touches Smash Bros.

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Post by: Smash_Brother on July 15, 2006, 04:57:04 PM
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Originally posted by: mantidor
I just hope nothing FF related ever touches Smash Bros.


To be honest, I'm pretty neutral on FF characters in SSBB. If we saw one, it would have to have appeared on a Nintendo console previously so that rules out all of the "angst-filled teen" characters which have haunted FF7+.

That leaves the original FF games (including US FF3), Tactics, CC, and now FF3 (which will be out on the DS by the time SSBB is released.

Cloud will not be in SSBB (unless they release FF7 on the DS between now and when SSBB completes development, which ain't very likely) even though he's the most popular FF character to date.

If we did get one, I'd bet it would be a Moogle: they're the enduring symbol of FF and were born on Nintendo consoles. As long as it's not an angst-filled teen Moogle, I'd be fine with it.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 15, 2006, 05:55:45 PM
Hey I understand wanting to keep traditional Zelda games pure.  I get that.  But Hyrule and the world of Zelda is rich with history and lore...and I could see a traditional RPG made as an offshoot.  People would have never thought a Mario RPG would work...and Square Nintendo made it work...and it was beautiful.  Now we have a new franchise.

Why does everybody close their minds to new ideas about games and characters...if it doesn't take away from the original style games being created, then I say go for it.  

And as I said before, I think it would be an amazing trade.  You know how much money and how huge of a new franchise could be created with Square creating a traditional Zelda Japanese RPG.  Or hell, they could even make a Kingdom Hearts with Nintendo franchises instead of Disney.

If I deal like this would get us Dragon Quest exclusive, then I say it is worth the investment.

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Post by: Ceric on July 16, 2006, 02:15:46 AM
The thing with Zelda is your to close to the source with an RPG.  The closest thing Mario had to an RPG to date when Super Mario RPG happened was Mario 2.  Zelda on the other hand sort of falls in that category by lack of category.  Also, I'm going to post this in the SSBB thread as well, Miasm(sp?) level would rock.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2006, 04:53:24 AM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
The closest thing Mario had to an RPG to date when Super Mario RPG happened was Mario 2.
Shouldn't that be Super Mario World since they were both on the SNES or did you mean something else by Mario 2 other than SMB2?

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Post by: Ceric on July 16, 2006, 04:58:23 AM
SMB 2 had multiple unique characters to play.  A "party" if you will and characters that were never reused again in the series really.  (Like the mouse one who threw bombs)  It just feels the least like a "Traditional" Mario game then the other "Traditional" Mario games.  Especially at the time.
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Post by: The Omen on July 16, 2006, 05:53:31 AM
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& no one has anything to say about a Secret of Mana MMO?


I love SoM on the Snes, and would just about pre-order the MMO now if this were true.
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Post by: IceCold on July 16, 2006, 01:10:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
SMB 2 had multiple unique characters to play.  A "party" if you will and characters that were never reused again in the series really.  (Like the mouse one who threw bombs)  It just feels the least like a "Traditional" Mario game then the other "Traditional" Mario games.  Especially at the time.
Doki Doki Panic.
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Post by: Artimus on July 16, 2006, 02:10:49 PM
It's kind of funny that if Nintendo hadn't converted Doki Doki Panic we wouldn't have Shyguys, as they were Doki characters, not Mario characters. So thank goodness for bizarre import choices!
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Post by: Ceric on July 16, 2006, 03:25:40 PM
Doki Doki Panic Wikipedia Entry

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The popular gender confusion for Birdo (in US she was described as a male who thinks he is a girl in the manual), due to the perception that beating up a female was abhorent, but not a transexual.


lol

Finally the answer.  Birdo is a girl at least in Doki Doki Panic (I had to look up that bit of trivia.)
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Post by: EasyCure on July 16, 2006, 03:58:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I remember hearing that that is why NOA was hesitant to release EB3 here in the states for GBA, they want to kill off the GBA and push sales of the DS Lite instead.

Earthbound 3 doesn't exist...


sarcasm right?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 16, 2006, 04:01:45 PM
No, Earthbound 3 does NOT exist!

If Mother 3 is localized it will be Earthbound 2!
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Post by: EasyCure on July 16, 2006, 04:58:57 PM
fair enough.

i was under the impression you didnt know mother 3 ever saw the light of day... unless you didnt and were smart enough to save your ass ;-)
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Post by: Smash_Brother on July 16, 2006, 05:31:08 PM
Mother = Earthbound 0.

Deal.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 17, 2006, 02:29:21 AM
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
i was under the impression you didnt know mother 3 ever saw the light of day... unless you didnt and were smart enough to save your ass ;-)

That's almost insulting!  I'm the biggest Mother fan here!
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Post by: couchmonkey on July 17, 2006, 02:44:10 AM
You're the biggest everything fan here!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 17, 2006, 04:23:35 AM
Nah, only Zelda, Golden Sun, and Mother...
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Post by: IceCold on July 17, 2006, 06:18:36 AM
Unfortunately, you couldn't earn the title for Jungle Beat..
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 17, 2006, 08:01:30 AM
Again, I can see arguement saying that Zelda is already an RPGish type game, so why rework it into just a different type of RPG.  And I would agree if you were doing a story about Link solo then to make an traditional turn based RPG instead of an action adventure RPG would be silly.

But, I think there is potentially a really great story inbetween Ocarnia of Time and Wind Waker, that doesn't involve Link.

Remember, there was a great war and no hero of time showed up.  Well what happened?  which heros tried to rise to the task to defend Hyrule?  This is an important story that could connect the stories and be really cool.

Personally, I would handle the story that the Sages from OoT came back to fight for Hyrule's future.  This would give you a great diverse party system, that all have connections to Link, and reasons to try to save the world.  It would be a game that could greatly expand the lore and mythos of Hyrule and Link.  Square would be perfect for a game like this...and I think we would be pretty stupid not to be excited about something like that.

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Post by: Ceric on July 17, 2006, 08:17:29 AM
That would be cool. As long as it involves no cards what-so-ever.  Square did something like this for Kingdom of Hearts and it turned out relatively unplayable for anyone who actually liked Kingdom of Hearts because of the stupid cards.  (Then again KH2 is not near as good as KH)
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Post by: EasyCure on July 17, 2006, 08:34:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
i was under the impression you didnt know mother 3 ever saw the light of day... unless you didnt and were smart enough to save your ass ;-)

That's almost insulting!  I'm the biggest Mother fan here!


then i apologize. im a huge EB fan as well, but i could car less about the name really. eb3, mother 3; its just the name. i just cant wait to play the third one already. that and finish the first one

and spak-spang  has, yet again, another brilliant idea.
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Post by: Requiem on July 17, 2006, 12:34:14 PM
I say Boo! to Spak and his idea...

I say Boo! to EasyCure for agreeing with him...

And lastly, I say Boo! to Bill for no reason at all...

Seriously, Spak -- do you really want to play with Sages? I admit that the story in between has a damn cool feel to it, but sages? Plus there's like 7 of them, which one would be the main character? Plus, I think TP is the story in between OOT and WW anyways.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 17, 2006, 12:55:57 PM
Req:

That was just my initial idea...we could design other characters to play as for the story.  I personally thought the Sages would be interesting.

1)You get to play as several different species from the Zelda realm.  This would allow you to design unique fighting styles, magics, and history for each species.

2)Each Sage has a connection to Link, and is a character Zelda fans are fimilar with.  So there is already emotional connection to the characters.

3)The Sages are an active interest in protecting the realm of Hyrule as it is now their reason of existance.  

4)The humor between the relationships of several of the Sages would make for some interesting dialogue and character relationships.  Sarai "What do you mean Link is betrothed to you."

5)Spring boarding off of OoT would help explain why a new hero of time never emerged.  The Hero jumped in and out of time screwing up the legacy of the hero of courage emerging.  (Just an intial thought and explaination.)

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Post by: EasyCure on July 17, 2006, 03:23:48 PM
i thought the same question about who the main character would be, Req, but i thought to myself "who is the most important of all of them?" and theres only one answer: Zelda

zelda is the leader of the sages because of her royal bloodline (and since she's in every frickin game with link...well almost) so it just makes sense she takes position as leader.

zelda is your all-around hero and can diguise herself as sheik for certain parts of the game. say for instance a land close to hyrule, but has no allegance(sp) with the king, and might be hostile to the royal family.

saria could be your healer

darunia is the power house character

nabooru is the theif character

so on and so forth.

... ok so maybe i run out of ideas really.... but who says impa, ruto and rauru have to be playable characters???  
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 17, 2006, 03:51:40 PM
Ah, but you wouldn't be playing Zelda you would be playing Shiek wouldn't you?  

Oh course you bring up another point...fleshing out the character of Zelda.  

Personally, I see a very interesting story here.  It is surrounded by a basic mystery.  Hyrule is at war with an new and unknown mysterious force, that is bringing all of Hyrule to its knees and forcing the kingdom to take sides in the battle.  The Sages are carefully watching over the land waiting for the Hero of Courage to once again remerge, and the battle for the tri-force once again play out.  Yet, no hero emerges, and it looks less likely that this has anything to do with the triforce at all.  The Sages must decide to take action or to continue to wait.  Taking action revokes their watcher/sage status over the realm of Hyrule, but allows them to directly interact with the world once again.  

A decision is made, and the journey begins.  Yet as this evil is uprooted another evil is just beginning to emerge, and with the Sages now vunerable and Hyrule in the grips of war...a play for the Tri-force is beginning again.  

That would be my basic one sheet of the game.

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Post by: EasyCure on July 17, 2006, 04:16:39 PM
plus it would be perfectly ok for a sage to die during this war since they, like the hero of legend, is awakened and summoned into their role when the time is right. think of that elf sage from WW. i havent played the game in awhile but im sure they implied he died in his temple (other than making him a transparent figure lol)
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Post by: Ceric on July 17, 2006, 04:31:13 PM
There you have it.  But I'm going to have to say the Hyrule is awfully small for a "traditional" style RPG.  They need to expand it.  Give it more area.
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Post by: Requiem on July 17, 2006, 04:38:29 PM
OOOOOHHHHhhhh

What if Link joined your party when you least expected it?

I mean, right at the end, right before the evil dude is about to kill you, Link jumps into the fray all pimped out and doing his thang.

He becomes a party member and helps you defeat old dude with some crazy-only-in-RPGs moves, like BLAAAOOW!
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Post by: EasyCure on July 17, 2006, 05:02:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
OOOOOHHHHhhhh

What if Link joined your party when you least expected it?

I mean, right at the end, right before the evil dude is about to kill you, Link jumps into the fray all pimped out and doing his thang.

He becomes a party member and helps you defeat old dude with some crazy-only-in-RPGs moves, like BLAAAOOW!


actually a suggestion i was going to make was that in a sort of "never saw it coming" finale, where you think all hope is lost and hryule will be destroyed (which it will, sorta). you find out that link is batteling evil (ganon) from another dimension (the one where ganon is imprisoned in) and theres a playable fight sequence where you can actually control link for the first time in the game. you cant really win the battle but you're holding off ganon long enough for the sages to defeat the evil that is destroying their realm and summon the flood from the gods that keeps ganon isolated in the 'frozen' hyrule we see in WW. the ending could be that ganon kills link and esapes from the realm he was improsoned in, only to find out he is improsoned still in the soon-to-be kingdom of legend.

i've been thinking alot of the rumors of link dying in TP and how it should be done if link was to die in a game. thats something i came up with

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: EasyCure on July 17, 2006, 05:11:38 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
There you have it.  But I'm going to have to say the Hyrule is awfully small for a "traditional" style RPG.  They need to expand it.  Give it more area.



i agree, but the areas that make up hyrule are homes to the different races whose leaders swore allegiance to the king of hyrule. instead of expanding hyrule, the game can simply explore brand new areas, with new races, whom have no ties to hryule. there could be a neighboring village that is nuetral or enemies of hyrule.

for example there could be a village of theives that loathe the king, so zelda disguises herself as sheik in that village, and loses some of her party. for instance, darunia might be well known as the leader of gorons who pledge allegiance to the king of hyrule so he wouldnt be welcomed, but nabooru who is from a tribe of theives as well would not be a threat to such a village.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: ruby_onix on July 17, 2006, 05:26:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Mother = Earthbound 0.

Deal.

That's it's fan-given name.

Mother = Earthbound.
Mother 2 = Earthbound.
Mother 3 = N/A
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 18, 2006, 01:47:29 AM
In my story Ganondorf has learned not to underestimate his opponents.  He is using his power and some of his allies to pull the Triforce out of possessing the Hero of Courage.  

At a critical moment near the final of the game, Shiek must decide whether she will reveal whom she is and use her true power.  It would be during a boss battle, and the entire party will be dead but her, and you will for the first time get to use a new magic attack that will totally kick ass...however, once that is unleashed Ganondorf will know who the Sage is and act 2 of the story will began to hunt her down.  

At this point in time, he already has the triforce of courage.  So basically, you wouldn't have to bring Link into the game at all.  

The ending of this story wouldn't be a traditional happy ending, because Ganondorf must win.  However, in the last battle it is the Sages that sink Hyrule underwater and protect it from Ganondorf's evil.  In this way, the world doesn't have to turn dark.

With Ganondorf free in this new world, the uncertainty of the legend becames a reality even for him.  Will there ever be another Hero of Courage after he pulled it out of the past Link? How about another Zelda with the triforce of courage?  He rules the islands of Wind Waker, yet he doesn't rule the world he loves.

 
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 18, 2006, 01:59:06 AM
Uh... what are we talking about in here? well anyway I didn't want to make a new thread about this so I just stick it here since its unconfirmed any way:

Nintendo to unveil NEW games @ Liepzig Games Convention
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According to Nintendo: The Official Magazine (a European publication, to be sure), the August Games Convention 2006, held from August 24th to the 27th, will showcase several previously unannounced Wii titles.

I wonder whats gonna be shown.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 18, 2006, 03:01:09 AM
BlackNMild:  Yes...Technically you are in the right thread.  Rumors and such.

I wonder what they will be.

Perhaps more variations in Wii Sports?  This rumored WiiParty game?  I dunno.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: SixthAngel on July 18, 2006, 03:19:20 AM
Are there any games that are typically huge in Germany?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: Louieturkey on July 18, 2006, 12:29:13 PM
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Originally posted by: SixthAngel
Are there any games that are typically huge in Germany?


The David Hasselhoff Sing-a-long game is quite popular.  They must be revealing a Wii version of a David Hasselhoff game of some sort.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: KDR_11k on July 19, 2006, 03:58:14 AM
"Aufbau strategie" (construction strategy? Stuff like Settlers and Anno 1602.) was a pretty popular genre last I checked, as are football manager sims but mostly it's the same as all other countries.

The good part of the GC is that it's not too far from my home so I could visit it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/14/2006)
Post by: IceCold on July 19, 2006, 07:07:57 PM
You went last year, right?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2006, 11:17:35 AM
source: 2amUpdate.com
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Originally posted on Nintendo.com forums
-First off let me say that the full scope of the Wii controller details has yet to be revealed by PixArt and Nintendo. Although I cannot elaborate any further let me say that the Nintendo should show that the movement in 3D space will allow experiences outside of just the TV screen. And its not 3D projection related.

-The official launch date has yet to be set in stone but will indeed launch before Sony’s PS3.

-Ironically enough, the first game that will be shown to the public that demonstrates the full scope of Wii controller potential will be Dragonball Z Budokai 4.

-When Nintendo first showed the controller at Tokyo Game Show late 2005 they were very hesitant to show it full usage. I will allow one more clue to my finding that the Wii controller can function exactly as we all have seen demonstrated WITHOUT the sensor bar. So ask yourselves, why need a sensor bar?

-The sensor bar was in all actuality in no use at E3 2006. What is will allow hasn’t been shown yet.

-According to people who are working close to everyday events at Nintendo R&D, Nintendo Wii specifications were far and away developed solely for that machine.

-IBM and ATI have been working on Broadway and Hollywood for quite some time now. And according to many people Wii’s specs could go up or down at this point in the CPU/VPU departments. Apparently Nintendo has spent quite a lot of money having IBM and ATI fabricate many iterations of Broadway and Hollywood. Which range from a 3.4GHz-730MHz Broadway CPUs, and 1.2GHz-553MHz custom ATI/Nintendo Hollywood VPU. From what we hear Hollywood is key to the Wii’s power. The architecture is all about eliminating bottlenecks and maximizing performance, upgrade of the CPU with the slight downgrade of the graphics processor compliments this philosophy, striking a great balance for Wii. However, it was also indicated that since Hollywood is a truly extreme “Flipper II” and Broadway is a massively upgraded “Gekko II” at least in architecture. That early on Nintendo R&D took a good look at what GameCube did good and what it could have done better. It was mentioned that GameCube’s Flipper was an extremely powerful chip far more capable than even the Xbox’s. The Gekko design meant for balance, though was not able to support but about 50% of the ArtX’s Flipper’s power. This particular bottleneck has been ironed out allowing Broadway to fully complement Hollywood to its maximum potential and vise-versa. The initial estimates we got concerning final hardware spec was Broadway at around 1.5GHz and Hollywood at 555MHz.

-There is also word that Nintendo in private sessions has big plans for the Wii headset. Talk is, that Nintendo wants to lean away from having the headset only for online capability. They are wanting to go further. Having the headset of course include a microphone for use in games is a given. But there was also talk of a late to launch release of this “gyroscopic headset” that would be supported by the sensor bar as well. To sum up the theory we were privy to. The headset would be somewhat sensitive to movement that could be translated into the game. Such as if you get up and move to the right of your television something might correspond for that in the game. Such as dodging things, looking around corners etc. It was also mentioned that it might have a unique look and non-obstructive lightweight design.

-Our latest discovery concerning Wii software is that developer Nibris (Raid Over the River, Sadness) has received Wii development kits and has partnered with publisher Majesco.
hmmmm....... true reason of the sensor bar yet to be revealed? I will withold thoughts on these rumors until I get home from work later.

Quick Summary
-Wii controller still has a secret(movement in 3-d space not presented on TV) DBZ: Budokai 4 1syt to take full advantage
-True use for the sensor bar has yet to be revealed
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz)
-Gyroscope headset to be released post launch(used for more than online chat<obviously>)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Cap on July 25, 2006, 11:30:41 AM
the idea of using the headset in gameplay is a great one, and one that i really have no doubt that nintendo is proabaly looking into(not that i ever thought of it before reading of the idea here). the sensor bar still seems to me like it would HAVE to be there for the pointer aspect of the wii controller to function, but i dont claim to have much technical knowledge..... so saying that i wont comment on the specs part of that post.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 25, 2006, 11:55:40 AM
The Wiimote cannot tell how far it is from the TV screen unless it has the sensor bar and is capable of "seeing" the two LEDs, so I think it's safe to say that this is indeed its function (whether it has any others is anyone's guess).

The camera in the top of the Wiimote (confirmed by Nintendo) uses the two LEDs as a point of reference so it knows when the player moves the Wiimote closer or further from the TV because the camera sees the distance between the LEDs changing. When they get further apart, it knows the Wiimote has been moved closer. When they get closer together, the Wiimote has been pulled back.

The accelerometer cannot determine where it is, only that it's being moved around. Any game which needs to aim at the screen is going to need the sensor bar to work.

Don't trust these rumors at all...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 25, 2006, 12:20:51 PM
Playing devils advocate here.  The Wii could time the delay and strength of the signal from the WiiMote to gauge how for it is from the Wii itself.  The accelormeters could deal with movement.

Now that being said I still think that Smash is right.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Shorty McNostril on July 25, 2006, 12:31:33 PM
Im not surprised about the headset.  The first time they mentioned sword fighting i figured we would need something like this to do it properly.

If they didnt have anything like this it would just be standing up straight swinging a sword. Not very real. Mabye buttons for ducking but that would feel wrong in my opinion.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Requiem on July 25, 2006, 04:16:15 PM
There is most definitely going to be a headset, just not one with gyroscope functionality.

The whole concept of a gyroscope in a headset is flawed. How are you going to turn your head and still be able to see the TV? Unless the headset is used for really subtle things (such as leaning right to look around a corner), it's not very useful. And even if it were used for the subtle things, the wiimote can already mimmick those actions. So again, it makes it completely useless.

With that said, I really wish they make a headset for gaming and the like. I would really like to be able to call my friends through the Wii and setup a game while conversating. That to me is the ultimate long distance multiplayer experience.

I mean seriously, we all can agree that multiplayer is only good if there is a good amount of interaction between the players (even if it's only before and after the game).
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 25, 2006, 04:52:22 PM
I don't think we'll see a headset this gen because it runs counter to everything Nintendo has said so far about making gaming less scary and more appealing to a broader audience. You think a controller is scary? Try a helmet with wires coming out of it. See if you can get grandpa to put THAT thing on.

Besides, what is Nintendo going to do NEXT gen when Sony and MS have BOTH ripped off the Wiimote if they play all their innovation cards right now?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2006, 04:57:24 PM
don't patents last for about 10 or so years?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Requiem on July 26, 2006, 03:15:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I don't think we'll see a headset this gen because it runs counter to everything Nintendo has said so far about making gaming less scary and more appealing to a broader audience. You think a controller is scary? Try a helmet with wires coming out of it. See if you can get grandpa to put THAT thing on.

Besides, what is Nintendo going to do NEXT gen when Sony and MS have BOTH ripped off the Wiimote if they play all their innovation cards right now?


Oh that's for damn sure.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 26, 2006, 04:04:30 AM
If it's you bread and butter, like Coke and Disney, you can get it to last for 50 years.  Hi-Tech I'm sure has different rules but Disney is trying to find a way to keep Mickey off of public domain.  Coke changes it's formula and the like.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: KDR_11k on July 26, 2006, 04:15:27 AM
Disney extends copyright, not patents. Coke uses trade secrets instead of patents. Patents last 20 years from filing or 17 from issuing.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 26, 2006, 04:17:30 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
don't patents last for about 10 or so years?


They'll wiggle around them.

MS and Sony are skilled at ripping off their competition and repackaging it as their own. It's how they survive at all.

I'd love to think that Nintendo's patents could defend the virtue of the Wiimote, but I've seen the rip-off happen so many times that I'm just not that optimistic.

Though, if Nintendo captures the market this gen, they'll very likely do so again next gen so long as they don't completely goof up their chances like Sony is doing right now.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 26, 2006, 04:27:28 AM
KDR Your brilliant.  The Wiimote can be a trade secret.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: ShyGuy on July 26, 2006, 04:55:37 AM
A secret blend of 11 herbs and spices makes the Wiimote delicious
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 27, 2006, 02:40:44 AM
I think the DS release dates hidden Wii launch information should be placed in here for rumor.

I think we have all heard about this hidden message...so the question is does the message exist.  And even if it doesn't exist there is more fuel for an October release as early as October 2nd...with even Matt from IGN jumping on board with his blog.

So what are your thoughts is it plausible for the Wii to release in October?  How early in October?

Matt brought up the comparison to Apple, and it seems logical.  Though I would like to add that Nintendo won't be at TGS...not even speaking.  So that September Wii announcement is probably going to be BEFORE the TGS, which would give Nintendo hype to destroy the PS3 TGS information.  Specially, if a nice release date is in October.

Nintendo has said numerious times it is better to have just a month of commercials and hype to build up to launch.

What do you guys think?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2006, 05:20:46 AM
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The fourth quarter of 2006 will herald a new era for Nintendo with the launch of its remarkable new Wii™ home video game system. But that's not what this news item is about! How could that be, you ask? Perhaps the secret to the launch information for Wii is somehow encoded in the text of this news item. You might want to pore over it for a few hours before staying up all night to debate phraseology and comma placement with your friends online. Or maybe it's all just a scam to get you to read the other games we have launching this fall. One of the two.

As the weather cools down, the Nintendo portable game offerings heat up. FINAL FANTASY® V ADVANCE makes its way to Game Boy® Advance SP on Nov. 6. As series go, FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies. FINAL FANTASY loyalists will enjoy an opportunity to debate which installment was best.

Nintendo DS™ owners are the big winners. Every week or so, another huge DS title hits, from the Touch Generations title Clubhouse Games™ to fan favorites like Elite Beat Agents™ and Yoshi's Island™ 2. Clearly a gamer's idea of paradise, here is Nintendo's upcoming DS lineup:

Oct. 2: Wii could release here
Oct. 9: Clubhouse Games™
Oct. 16: Nintendogs™ (Dalmatian)
Oct. 23: Magical Starsign™
Oct. 30: Pokemon® Ranger
Oct. 30: Children of Mana®
Nov. 6: Elite Beat Agents™
Nov. 13: Yoshi's Island™ 2
Nov. 20: Wii won't release after PS3
Nov. 27: This is waaay too late for Wii to release
Dec. 4: Custom Robo™ Arena
Dec. 4: Kirby™ Squeak Squad

And, for Nintendo GameCube™ owners, The Legend of Zelda®: Twilight Princess will be available for you this fall. An enhanced version also will be a launch title for Wii. That will all happen on ... Oh look, we're out of space.

I've seen all kinds of speculation, but the one I like the most is the one that takes the last sentence and twist it into meaning that Nintendo is going to have a Spaceworld this year.

also this one: Wii = WII = VVII when looked at as Roman numerals = 5 + 5 & 1 + 1 =  10 & 2 = 10/2 = October 2nd
Which means Wii will launch on October 2nd.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 27, 2006, 08:21:01 AM
Oct. 2nd would absolutely rule for a Wii launch. I'm not holding my breath, but it would RULE.

It would be absolutely too perfect, and while I kind of expect Nintendo to botch it and release it in the shadow of the PS3 or something, they've done so much else right recently that I can't help but consider it a possibility.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 27, 2006, 09:03:08 AM
Well, Nintendo could easily talk to developers and launch in October with 3-4 of their first party games ready, and tell 3rd parties that if they can get their games ready, that October would be great.

But if they want more time,

We will be launching new games around November and have a huge media campaign then, and they would love their games to be apart of it.  (Read free advertising, and launch hype still before PS3.)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 27, 2006, 09:32:12 AM
The two wave approach would be great for us here.  It really consider how close the games that are really launch titles are.  Bluntly how far is Red Steel.  That game needs to launch with the system.  Same with TP.  Everything else if its out by Nov 17 then their good.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 27, 2006, 11:08:30 AM
Basically here is how I see the two wave system.  Launching the system in October, and then having a second release of big games by Nintendo and 3rd parties in November would break down.

1)Wii officially releases early to mid-October with a launch lineup of:

Zelda Twilight Princess
Wii Sports
Metroid Prime Corruption
Red Steel
Madden 2006
Super Monkey Ball


Then around November (I would say a week before Sony launchs the PS3...so that people may not have the money to spend for one.)

Nintendo releases:

Excite Truck
Wario Ware Smooth Moves
Project Hammer

Third Parties release other games that are ready.

Basically, what you are getting is a Nintendo launch with a traditional Nintendo franchise, a Non-gamer game, and another traditional game.  Then Nintendo releases another list of big games throwing at us another Non-Gamer game, and two traditional games, with huge third party support.

Now, the best part about this plan is that Nintendo has a huge head start, and basically two buying periods.  October, and November...each buying period is supported by huge games, that may help them capture huge money on both periods.

But that is not all.

That would allow, a certain Mario game to possibly be positioned for a nice DECEMBER launch.  2-3 months after system launch is what was quoted.

So Super Mario Galaxy could help secure final holiday shoppers.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on July 27, 2006, 12:23:03 PM
I'll take my Wii as soon as possible. I'd buy it with no games, even.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 27, 2006, 01:43:39 PM
*Wii comes tomorrow , so does ~$1200+ Devkit cost*

With Spak-Spang except switch MP and Excite Truck around.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 27, 2006, 02:21:37 PM
I doubt Project HAMMER is that far enough along to release in the launch window...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Mario on July 27, 2006, 03:40:10 PM
Out of space could hint at Mario Galaxy making launch.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BiLdItUp1 on July 27, 2006, 04:18:57 PM
Ha, when Nintendo started suggesting overanalysis, I thought Wii = V V i i = 10/2.

Personally, I think it'll happen sometime in October, but some features won't make it in time or won't get going till later. VC, for example, will be extremely limited. The de-emphasis of online is also a bit telling. The games'll all be done I'm sure. Two waves - launch time and the week before Thanksgiving, to combat the PS3.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2006, 04:30:26 PM
Sega to develop Ready to Rumble 3 exclusively for the Wii? <--- Its in French

Juex-france says they have sources that say it is so. Sega seems like they are really behind the Wii this time. If this turns out to be true, I wonder what other games Sega might be bringing ove to the Wii(exclusively).
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Requiem on July 27, 2006, 05:13:51 PM
Hopefully Sega does this game right. A solid boxing sim would sell faster than virgin prostitutes...



well, maybe.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: IceCold on July 27, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
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I wonder what other games Sega might be bringing ove to the Wii(exclusively).
I expect NiGHTS, Panzer Dragoon, a couple of lightgun games and a couple of racing games.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 28, 2006, 02:27:51 AM
Saturn games aren't going to come initially.  We should all know that now.  The technology was complex and will take more effort to emulate.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 28, 2006, 04:23:03 AM
Didn't Sega make Vectorman? I wonder if he will be getting a sequal on a next-gen system at any point.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Donutt007 on July 28, 2006, 05:20:29 AM
Vectorman was made by Sega and Bluesky Software. Never played it, always wanted to.

Vectorman
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on July 28, 2006, 07:03:06 AM
Wii might be playable on the Nintendo Fusion tour, according to IGN... the tour runs until Nov. 11, which makes me wonder: will the Wii come out during the tour, or immediately following? I know the tour wouldn't determine the release date, but still....
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 28, 2006, 07:14:23 AM
Ceric:  I think he was implying new versions of those games...not the Saturn games.  

A think Panzer Dragoon series is a perfect fit for the Wii.  

Nights as well for different reasons.

Actually, the Wii seems to fit perfectly with Sega's more original and crazy creations.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 28, 2006, 07:45:46 AM
Sonic Wild Fire's director said he'd like to make an all-new IP for Wii after he's done with the game, so that's a start...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Ceric on July 28, 2006, 08:20:56 AM
Wasn't it already said that NiGHTs is probably never going to be redone because the creator thinks it can't be improved on.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 28, 2006, 09:17:07 AM
Ceric:  No I believe he stated that he wasn't going to make another Nights game, unless a new control system that could actually improve the game could be created.

With a statement like that, and how unique the Wii controller was...everyone just jumped on the rumor that the Wiipointer was that new controller, and Nights would now have to be made.

Personally, I believe Nights is one of the most OVERrated, and UNDERrated games of all time.  There are people that over play the greatness of that game...and their are people that ignore the game all together.  I would like to give it another try...but it really bored me the first time I played it.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/25/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 31, 2006, 04:35:11 PM
Time to refill those salt containers, cause I don't think you have enough salt for this one...

Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs?

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The Wii Hardware

- Nintendo Wii’s ‘Broadway’ CPU operates at 729MHZ with a maximum bandwith of 1.9gbyte/sec.
- Nintendo Wii’s ‘HollyWood’ GPU is clocked at 243MHZ, the internal memory of it includes 3mb of embedded graphics memory and 24megabytes of high speed main memory.
- 64megabytes of GDDR3 (MEM2) as the external main memory. Just like the internal memory, it can be accessed from the CPU and GPU with a maximum bandwidth of 4gbytes/sec and can also store programs in the MEM2.
- The GPU of the Wii is identical to the GC’s but it is on average 1.5X faster.

Wii's Optical Disc Drive

- Opitcal Disc Drive (ODD) supports single and dual layer Wii disks, discs eject with software or button and the maximum read speed is the equivalent of DVDx6.
- Two main disc types supported the single sided 12cm single sided 4.7gb and the double sided 8.51 GB. Nintendo GC discs also supported. Some of the capacity of the discs are used by the system and games can not use full disc space.
- Inserting a disc will start the Wii console, even if it was already in an off state. Pressing the eject button will change the console to an on state to take out the disc also.

General Overview

- An optional wired LAN adapter that connects to a USB port is in the pipeline for users who do not possess a wireless LAN set-up currently.
- Internal non-removable 512MB flash memory used to storage game save data and downloadable content thus eliminating the need for a memory card.
- Both Wii discs and Gamecube discs can be played via an intelligent mode swap. When running in GC mode, the Wii’s CPU and GPU will lower to the respective speeds of the GC and some of the MEM2 functions as ARAM.
- Software development environment is an upgrade to the ‘Dolphin SDK’ used with the GC; the same libraries are used so developers can get up to scratch easily as well as the possibility of ports being easier.
- The following interfaces are included with the Wii; SD card slot, Wireless controller, two USB 2.0 ports, wireless LAN, 4x GC controller ports, 2x GC memory card slots and an AV multi output jack (only an analog jack).
- Supports Wii disks (one sided 12cm) and GC discs (one sided 8cm) and console auto switches depends on what disk is inserted
- More than just the Nunchaku is planned as an extension. GC peripherals such as DK bongos can be used in both Wii and GC modes.
- Three power status, on, off and unplugged. To prevent mistaken turn offs, the power button must be held for about a second.

The Wii Control System

- The Wii controller features; Direct Pointing Device, Three axis accelerometer, Wii power button (remotely turn console on/off), buttons, wireless connectivity, indicator LED’s, rumble, battery powered (two AA alkaline batteries) and ability to connect extension unit.
- The Wii controller supports three types of operations; by itself, with a nunchuk extension or with a classic controller. Classic controllers will ship to developers during August 2006.
- The SYNCHRO button on the Wii controller exchanges wireless ID numbers when pressed at the same time as SYNCRHO on the Wii console. Wireless communications are only possible with consoles which have been authenticated.
- The rumble motor can be turned on and off and the intensity can be changed.
- The Wii remote has a pointer for fine movements as well as a motion Sensor +/- 3.4G suitable for larger body movements, the nunchuk attachment has a Sensor of +/- 2G
- The sensor bar must be placed above or below a TV set, the pointer measures coordinates between the ends of the bar which are about 20cm apart.
- The Wii remote has four status, disconnected, communicating, establishing connection and pairing wait status.
- The pointer can measure co-ordinates within bounds of rectangle centered upon the sensor bar, thus it can also measure points beyond the screen. It also responds to strong light sources, windows, fluorescent lamps, fireplaces, mirrors etc.
- Due to players hands shaking while holding the controller, a ring buffer allows a precise direction to be created to hold and average accelerator samples.

*UPDATE* The dev mailed us and said he was shocked to see all these cries of 'fake', so he provided some more info to show he's not bluffing...

Broadway CPU

Broadway is Wii's CPU. Broadway functionality and specifications are as follows.

• Operating speed: 729 MHz
• Bus to main memory: 243 MHz, 64 bits (maximum bandwidth: 1.9 gigabytes/sec)
• 32-kilobyte 8-way set-associative L1 instruction cache
• 32-kilobyte 8-way set-associative L1 data cache (can set up 16-kilobyte data scratch pad)
• Superscalar microprocessor with six execution units (floating-point unit, branching unit, system regis
ter unit, load/store unit, two integer units)
• DMA unit (15-entry DMA request queue) used by 16-kilobyte data scratch pad
• Write-gather buffer for writing graphics command lists to the graphics chip
• Onboard 256-kilobyte 2-way set-associative L2 integrated cache
• Two, 32-bit integer units (IU)
• One floating point unit (FPU) (supports single precision (32-bit) and double precision (64-bit))
• The FPU supports paired single floating point (FP/PS)
• The FPU supports paired single multiply add (ps_madd). Most FP/PS instructions can be issued in
each cycle and completed in three cycles.
• Fixed-point to floating-point conversion can be performed at the same time as FPU register load and
store, with no loss in performance.
• The branch unit supports static branch prediction and dynamic branch prediction.
• When an instruction is stalled on data, the next instruction can be issued and executed. All instructions
maintain program logic and will complete in the correct program order.
• Supports three L2 cache fetch modes: 32-Byte, 64-Byte, and 128-Byte.
• Supports these bus pipeline depth levels: level 2, level 3, and level 4.
Reference Information: Broadway is upward compatible with Nintendo GameCube’s CPU (Gekko).

Hollywood GPU

Hollywood is a system LSI composed of a GPU and internal main memory (MEM1). Hollywood is clocked at 243 MHz. Its internal memory consists of 3 megabytes of embedded graphics memory and 24 megabytes of high speed main memory.

Hollywood includes the following.
• Graphics processing unit (with 3 megabytes of eDRAM)
• Audio DSP
• I/O Bridge
• 24 megabytes of internal main memory
• Internal main memory operates at 486 MHz.
Maximum bandwidth between Hollywood and internal main memory: 3.9 gigabytes per second
• Possible to locate a program here
Reference Information: Hollywood is similar to Nintendo GameCube’s Flipper and Splash components.

External Main Memory (MEM2)

Wii uses 64 megabytes of GDDR3 (MEM2) as external main memory. Like internal main memory, MEM2 can be accessed directly from Broadway and the GPU at high speed and has a peak bandwidth of 4 gigabytes/sec. Programs can also be placed in MEM2.

Reference Information: Nintendo GameCube ARAM is used as auxiliary memory for the DSP. The CPU and GPU did not have direct access to it.

Source - MaxConsole.com


I'm no techie or nothing, but this just seems like a collection of most of the stuff we already heard. I personally believe that the Wii will be a little more powerful than this (still looking for the 1+ghz cpu and a 4-500mhz gpu) and I hope that that is something Nintendo does prove at Liepzig, especially with a speech titled "Wii will prove our promise" lined up for the opening of GC in Leipzig in August.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 01, 2006, 02:24:43 AM
Yeah.  But at least it's not to unreasonable.  The Gamecube thing is an interesting concept.   To actually throttle back the processor to make sure it's compatible.  I wonder if there be an energy savings?  Also sounds like a big place for problems.  A Wii getting stuck in Cube mode.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: Athrun Zala on August 01, 2006, 04:47:59 AM
heh, interesting....

I wonder, since this claims it's underclockable, if it'll be Overclockable......

oh, since this specs seem very much like those IGN had, I'm assuming these might not be final....
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 01, 2006, 05:09:39 AM
There have been other rumors that they have at the minimum upped the ram since E3, no exact #'s but the people that are "supposedly" in the know say that these specs seem to be from the same time as when IGN supposedly got ahold of the spec sheet, and these specs are not accurate.
Whos telling the truth? I gues we'll just have to wait until the Wii is released to be 100% sure since I know someone will open theirs up and do some sort of benchmarking on it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: Kairon on August 01, 2006, 05:25:23 AM
What is this GDDR3 RAM?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: Nephilim on August 01, 2006, 05:35:18 AM
gdd3 is a cooler version of ddr2
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: Kairon on August 01, 2006, 05:38:21 AM
Why not 1T-SRAM?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: ToothpicksL on August 01, 2006, 09:38:40 AM
This site states that 1T-SRAM will be used, as well as some other sites.  So credibility is not certain..
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: Jensen on August 01, 2006, 12:21:53 PM
Only some minor new stuff revealed, and it is all fairly obvious.  He accurately described how the WiiMote will work, which most people don't seem to understand  (including the people who answer the mailbag at this site)  That alone makes me believe him.

Even if this isn't really from a developer, it is accurate to what we have heard so far, and he understands how everything works.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 01, 2006, 02:54:18 PM
Wii uses electricity and fancy tiny parts that are extremely efficient and cost effective.  Bad consumer technology involves making bigger, noisier, more expensive machines.  Good consumer technology is about compact, dollar-friendly, and being packed with effective features that are accessible without strings attached that say "i hope you have a new very expensive ____ to take full advantage of it!  are you sure mommy can get you that for Xmas?"
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on August 01, 2006, 03:44:57 PM
Get over specs guys.  You knew they would be low from the start.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 01, 2006, 06:26:13 PM
NO.

YOUUUUU reveal PGC's new NAME!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 7/31/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2006, 04:59:39 PM
Quote

source

Apparently, the latest issue of Electronic Gaming Monthly features the following rumors: One, that a Luigi's Mansion game is already in development for Wii, and two, that some Virtual Console games may be bundled with new games.

The Virtual Console games being bundled with New Games is something that has been specualted on here a long while ago. I also think thats what Sony should have done with UMD's, bundle them with their DVD counterparts at a slightly higher price, but thats a whole 'nother subject.

As for Luigi's Mansion, I never played the first, but I remember seeing it played, and I think it would be a perfect fir for the Wii and its mote controller.
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Quote

Originally posted by: IGN.com

August 4, 2006 - Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany.

Since its release in the states last December, Super Mario Strikers has sold more than 500,000 copies, effectively making it a sleeper hit and likewise a prime candidate for a Wii sequel.

No details about the Wii version are yet available, but as with most Wii titles, it is very likely to take advantage of Nintendo's unique new controller in some fashion.


As with the rumor above this one, I've never played the original, but the more the merrier.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/08/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 10, 2006, 06:05:47 AM
I actually think Soccer could be done really well with the WiiPointer.

The Pointer would be used to flick passes and shots on goal.  Holding A and flicking the Pointer will do a Pass, and Holding B will do a shot on goal.  Perhaps the D-Pad can be used for special moves like Bicycle kicks, headbutts, and such.

It could be super fun.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/08/2006)
Post by: Requiem on August 10, 2006, 06:19:49 AM
I don't know...

You can't really make Super Mario Strikers control any better. It's so simple and intuitive now that any changes would seem to be an attempt to fix something that ain't broken.

Plus, the Wiimote is perfect for arm and wrist gestures...none of which are used in the game soccer (except by the goalie).
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/08/2006)
Post by: ShyGuy on August 10, 2006, 07:21:40 AM
2 words: leg strap.

It's the top secret new Wiimote attachment! Megaton!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/08/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 11, 2006, 04:49:48 PM
More news from an IGN podcast, but how reliable are they?

IGN Wii-k N review...  <--*Warning* extremely boring podcast.

- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3
- Star Wars Wii a go
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch, probably more info at TGS
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday

I hope Lucas Arts makes something akin to Jedi Knight for the Wii.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/08/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 11, 2006, 05:00:09 PM
Quote

- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3 (Not Surprised considering that around here its not even really talked about.  I personally put it back into the oven and release it later.)
- Star Wars Wii a go (Not Surprised, every fan wants it and it would print money)
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch, probably more info at TGS (Not to Surprised on this, I mean it's Square and considering we haven't really seen much except the barest of bare I think they'll take there time.)
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday (This is a little interesting)


I'm actually hoping that MP3 goes back in the oven for a little bit on this one.  Why you asked?  Just as Zelda and Mario can't really coexist in the same Quarter.  It be worse with Metroid and Zelda.  There are going for a much similar demographic.  Most people who care about Zelda probably like Metroid in some way and vice versa.  Mario on the other hand is less specialize and more general.  I don't think launching Zelda and MP at the same time was a good idea anyways.  Sort of like I wouldn't do SSBB and MP together either.  No I think this one should come later.  If Zelda would have released when it was suppose to I would say otherwise.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: mantidor on August 11, 2006, 05:35:31 PM
Ive always said that Corruption didn't give me a good vibe, it felt very unfinished, I have no concerns if they delay it.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 11, 2006, 08:28:20 PM
the launch is falling apart already.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 12, 2006, 01:55:11 AM
It's the end of the world as we know, its the end of the world and I know it but I feel Fine...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Strell on August 12, 2006, 03:13:10 AM
That's ok.

We still get Avatar at launch.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: ShyGuy on August 12, 2006, 04:17:19 AM
We still get your Loli golf Pro!

I say delay a few titles, this launch is getting crowded.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 12, 2006, 04:32:40 AM
If Corruption is delayed.  I am willing to bet its so it can get online play.  We saw a demo at E3 which probably wasn't the final build they had...and its been worked on for awhile since then.  It should be infinitely better.  We aren't talking about it, because we don't have any more information, and we all know what Metroid Prime is, and plays like.

Personally, I thought Metroid: Corruption would have been the perfect exclusive game to release multiplayer online madiness, since Brawl won't be out for some time.

The only other option is that Nintendo is gracifully backing Metroid Corruption back to give the 3rd party FPS more attention at launch.  This would be a good strategy for 3rd party relations, and would allow Metroid to be released in the summer where gaming droughts might exist.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Darkheart on August 12, 2006, 05:34:36 AM
Quote

We still get your Loli golf Pro!


I thought that was a Japanese only title, they are considering it to come to the U.S. but last I heard it was not even confirmed for a Stateside release.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Kairon on August 12, 2006, 08:07:30 AM
Hmm... after some thought, I'm not too affected with the possibility of MP3 getting delayed.

Not only is this good news for third-parties (Ubisoft especially), but it allows for a better game in the end.

Now, the question would be whether they put in online play, or just make a better offline game that releases in December or whatnot. I get the sense that if they wanted online play, it'd take them 'till February at the earliest because they'd have to create new levels, import new code, work out the kinks in the virgin network, and force MP's single player design into a multiplayer environment.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 12, 2006, 08:41:03 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: darkheart
Quote

We still get your Loli golf Pro!


I thought that was a Japanese only title, they are considering it to come to the U.S. but last I heard it was not even confirmed for a Stateside release.

Considering they put out an English trailer for the game at E3, they sure as hell better be bringing it over...(Plus it's on EBGames release lists)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 12, 2006, 08:41:42 AM
Co-op campaign.  That would be an interesting edition to the Metriod Series.  Especially since it's very go it alone.  They could do co-op in a way were you might never see you partner until the end.  Interesting indeed.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: The Omen on August 12, 2006, 10:45:37 AM
Quote

Most people who care about Zelda probably like Metroid in some way and vice versa.


And they would buy both without hesitation.  

Look, I have no problem with Nintendo spacing out titles, as it is their right.  But for fans of the games to worry about having too many interesting games to choose from...well that's just absurd.  I would love to buy both Metroid and Zelda on launch day.  Doesn't mean I have to buy them both, but I would like to have the option.  I understand delaying games from a business standpoint, though I think the rationale behind the idea is overstated-both of those games would sell through the roof simultaneously.  What I don't understand is this idea coming from the fan perspective.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: stevey on August 12, 2006, 03:21:19 PM
I happy for the metroid delay, after zelda come out I wont be playing any other games for a looooooong time.

"If Corruption is delayed. I am willing to bet its so it can get online play."

I'll take you up on that bet, Retro all ready said they wont have online plan on release but might have it as a download for later.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 12, 2006, 03:49:42 PM
Stevey:  They also said it would be a launch game.  So if they were already planning the download...why not take the delay and incorporate it into the final product.

It makes more sense...and makes the product a more complete package.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Aussiedude on August 13, 2006, 09:30:27 AM
Nintendo to install "count down clocks" in Virgin UK stores today?




link
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on August 13, 2006, 10:39:35 AM
That's a cool title to have.  "Head Of Games".  I want something spiify like that to go along with my name!

It's still the 13th here, but I guess most of the world is ahead of Mountain Time Zone, overseas probably being early tomorrow morning already.

I think I heard that a possible European date was leaked already, and/or an Australian one.  It's North America that's still in the dark.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/11/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 13, 2006, 10:45:09 AM
Wait a minute... If those we're leaked then why don't we know... (Donutt007 then uses his superb information skills and links someplacing telling it.)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2006, 12:50:49 PM
When did Europe become more important than America?
They get the Black DSL even before Japan
and now they get in-store promotions and leaked release dates?

Do us Americans mean anything to Nintendo anymore?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Strell on August 13, 2006, 01:12:46 PM
The general idea is that America is such a large and profitable market, that NOA can essentially bypass super cool promotions and extra system colors and other neat sh*t that other countries are given (no Navy DS, no super awesome Japanese rewards system, certain games translated to English but for UK only, etc), as we are seen as a "you'll buy it anyway" sort of region.

Which is really sh*tty logic, but that's the general case.

People over at CAG have e-mailed them in regards to such things, and that was the basic response they got, but it wasn't worded as derisively.  More like "America is too big of a region for us to do such promotions."

It's like the ice cream man saying he wouldn't go to an elemtary school at 3 PM because he's afraid of the rush.

Actually, it's more like him being afraid that there will be a run on fudgesicles, and one kid is going to go home unhappy because they didn't get one.  And because of that, he just decides to forfeit the entire area.

Me?  I like cookie cake.  So screw the ice cream man.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Zach on August 13, 2006, 01:56:58 PM
Quote

Nintendo will be contacting your store to arrange the installation of the countdown clocks from the 14th August

Does that mean they will be announcing the release date tommorrow?  It wouldn't be the first time the announced info shortly before a big game conference (they gave us the Wii name 2 weeks before E3).  It would make sense if they are planning an early launch  (as has been rumored).

Meh, probably just wishful thinking.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Aussiedude on August 13, 2006, 04:38:46 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

Do us Americans mean anything to Nintendo anymore?


NO !! Even Australia gets the black DS-Lite before the yanks.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 14, 2006, 05:37:19 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
When did Europe become more important than America?
They get the Black DSL even before Japan
and now they get in-store promotions and leaked release dates?

Do us Americans mean anything to Nintendo anymore?


My guess is that they've been giving the shaft to Euro/Aussie gamers for a while now and what you're seeing is an effort to make it up to them.

Seriously, it took an extra YEAR to get AC out to Europe. How hard is it to rewrite some goddamn holidays, anyway?

They're aiming to strengthen their ties with the territories where they're traditionally the weakest, hence all the DSL ads in Australia.

It sucks for US yanks, I know, but the US will likely still get a bunch of releases before other countries so it kinda evens out.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on August 14, 2006, 06:17:28 AM
So is that countdown clock thing for real?

Because it's just after noon here in Mountain Time, meaning that it should be evening (7 PMish?) over in the UK by now.  If the countdown clocks were installed anywhere we should've at least heard about them, even if everyone had to wait for the workday to be over first before they had a chance to go online at home to post about it.

Granted, it could still be another day or two even if it is real...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 14, 2006, 06:23:02 AM
It could just be that Nintendo set the date arbitrarily to have the clocks start and they will actually be ready to install after the announcement.  There just trying to get logistics done. (I'm sure they all run off batteries.)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Strell on August 14, 2006, 06:34:11 AM
I posted this at the CAG forums, and decided it would be fun to post here.  This is only my pure speculation, and I don't even know if it is feasible, but ehh, I'll just see what others think.


Quote


Originally Posted by dothog
My only concern for the Wii library is that there's a new, improved Mario Kart on the way. After hearing about the DS cooking games I'm hoping the Wii library contains a solid cooking game, which will be very popular with my friends and family.


You know, when I read this a few minutes ago, something stuck in my head, but I couldn't just quite understand what it was.

So I thought about it more and it hit me - there's a potential here for something very cool, or something very shitty.

As you've proposed, since the control schemes can essentially mimic each other per system (Wii vs DS), that leaves the possibility that we'll see games that are highly similar to each other, but with different coats of paint. Case in point already is Trauma Center, where the Wii version is a pseudo-sequel/remix sort of situation. It's not a direct port, but is sort of an enhanced version with new missions, characters, etc.

But at the core, it's the same game, same mechanics, etc.

Which worries me. Cuz it's like you said - what happens if the DS games, say, a simulation cooking game, and a Wii version comes out 3 months later that is essentially an improvement in every way?

I could see this causing competition within the N community between people going for one version over the other. Maybe Wii Cooking Mama has twice as many levels. Maybe DS Cooking Mama 2 has all of the Wii's version's upgrades, and adds two player wireless support. And then a few months later we get Wii Cooking Family, and it's a full-on simulation game with minigame cooking schemes.

There's a potential for developers, unfortunately, to rip not only each other off, but rip themselves off, AND create massive double, triple, and tetra-dipping situations for the consumer.

But then I thought...

What if this is a way Nintendo plans to do expansion packs?

In much the same way the GBA port can be used to expand upon DS games, what if the Wii could utilize a wireless connection to a DS *as* you are playing a Wii game, and it feeds/downloads/installs upgrades and things in the Wii's resident memory, thus allowing there to be standardized expansions available at stores?

For example, Smash Bros Brawl. Maybe they release it and it has 40 characters and no online play. Well, 3-4 months later, Nintendo releases a DS cart that contains information for 10 new characters AND wireless connectivity. So you turn on your DS and set it to wireless play, turn on the Wii and tell it to search for new content. It finds the DS's information, downloads all of it into it's resident memory, and then lets you play with those characters online and off.

You could even have it flush memory when you shut off the machine, meaning Nintendo could theoretically have multiple carts out. Maybe there's a Capcom pack, and you get Megaman, Dante, Ryu, and others. Then there's a Konami Pack. A Squeenix pack.

-OR- you could have the option to save the data to an external memory source, such as an SD card, so that when the Wii is turned on/off, it could load that external data directly.

This would solve the issue of allowing DLC when the Wii only has 512 megs of internal memory. Seeing as how it would be impossible for people to syncrhonize across wirelessly UNLESS Nintendo had a way to deliver it outside of WiConnect24. 'Cuz it would be damn near impossible when searching for online matches in SSBB to make sure that everyone had the same version, especially if someone doesn't have the memory available because they already downloaded a lot of VC games....a good solution would be add-on cards that get access from the DS.

I need someone with more technical info than me to tell me if this is even possible.

Edit: Someone has brought up that it essentially tell consumers that upgrades cost $130 bucks + carts, which is insane.  Which is a very good point, indeed.  I'm mostly curious if the idea could work period.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: AnyoneEB on August 14, 2006, 08:40:14 AM
Strell: That is an interesting idea for people without broadband access, but it makes no sense for people with broadband access. It would be much easier to just offer expansions as downloads or on Wii discs (to be loaded into flash memory, if needed) if you wanted to have them. As for online play with different expansions? Just allow the user to enable/disable them. Blizzard deals with them online (for Starcraft and Warcraft III) by letting you log onto BNET either as original or expansion and only see games from other people who logged on the same (although you can chat with users on any game).
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Strell on August 14, 2006, 09:35:11 AM
Yea, but the problem with the Wii in terms of DLC is that it only has 512 megs of space internal, and if they want the game to be the same across the board for online play, they'd have to ensure that everyone had that data in that 512.

And since some people might not own SSBB, and since others might not have space for however many megs the download might be, there's no way Nintendo is going to have DLC for SSBB.  It's too difficult to synchronize.  You'd have to plan everything in advance, and that's a headache if I've ever imagined one.

BNET is fundamentally different because it's a computer, and it's assumed you'll have gigs of extra space.  That's sort of an agreement you have with PC developers to begin with.  They assume you have the space no matter what, and if you don't, you'll delete crap off your HD and/or get more space.  

Nintendo doesn't have that sort of luxury.  So if they want to have expansions down the line, they have a few options - 1) an enhanced release of the same game, 2) something that can be accessed externally that loads data into resident memory.

Nintendo doesn't care about online enough to go all out on it.  So I don't see them doing DLC or causing rifts in who owns what.  Which is why I doubt we'll see another Mario Kart DS until the DS2 hits.  

Animal Crossing can have DLC because it's just a tiny gift, and it doesn't effect anyone visiting your town.  SSBB can't rely on that.  If someone has downloaded the expansion and has, say, Kid Icarus's sword attack weakened for the sake of balance, but the other person doesn't, then that's going to ruin the game.  It's not so much a question of adding characters, it's about fixing gameplay down the line.  Nintendo doesn't want to do that - they want whole and cohesive products out on the market at all times.  

Now maybe they've got something cooked up no one knows about.  But there's too many obstacles for something like DLC beyond very small things.  WiConnect24 will never compete with XBL, or whatever Sony-ripoff will come up.  We're not going to get 15 minute 1 gig trailers, 1.5 gig gameplay demos, or 50-60 megs of maps.  It's just not going to happen unless Nintendo gives us more space to play with AND has the forethought to restrict just how much people can access.  

Unless games start shipping with SD cards for additional expansion, I don't see it happening.  Too many variables for too many people to deal with.

 
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 14, 2006, 09:53:05 AM
I expect Nintendo to add a cheap USB drive to the market in a Wii-styled case.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 14, 2006, 10:08:54 AM
No they've already said they aren't getting into that game.

Now hold on there.  The last thing I want is expansions and patches.  The Wii should work just like anyother pure console.  What you ship is what you get.  All the bugs worked out or there forever.  I still believe that the 512 Megs of Flash are not going to be available to the user for permanent storage.  Temporary yes.  Permanent no.  I can't see Nintendo going down that sticky road.  Especially since there is no indication that you can upgrade the internal memory.  I think they'll just have you place all your games and like on an external memory card for longterm storage.  Plus Nintendo has always been into Mad Compression technology and I wouldn't doubt that the Wii has something built in help on that front.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: couchmonkey on August 14, 2006, 10:41:20 AM
About those clocks: the way that message was worded, I was under the impression that this means someone is going to be calling the stores about installing the clocks starting today...they might not actually be installed for a while yet.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/13/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 14, 2006, 03:05:54 PM
An IGN Forums user, one who called the wiimote speaker months b4 EGM or E3....
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Originally posted on IGN forums in February
Date Posted: 2/8 1:48pm Subject: Developer Comments - Date Edited: 5/8 2:18pm (2 edits total) Edited By: namlas

"The controller will contain a small amount of memory, which can be written to by the console (via Bluetooth) during the game. This will usually be used to store small sound files which can be heard via the controller's small internal speaker.

In demonstrations this system could be used, for example, to simulated the sound of gun shots coming from the controller when fired; when you put this together with the force feedback, it creates a game experience which surpasses anything we have been able to create before.

In other experiments we created a simple "Chinese whisper" style communication game which one player could whisper into the controller (we were even able to be in another room when doing this) and then the sound would be sent via the console to another player's controller which they could then hear. Great fun!"
....Has now let another little rumor out into the wild. This time its about wireless headsets, accessories that are transferrable between Wii and the DS, and Speech to text technology that is to be used in conjuction with Nintendo WFC.
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Originally posted on IGN forums
"...voice communication will be via wireless, head-mounted microphones..."

"Some peripherals for the DS will be compatible with Wii and vice-versa."

"Many Nintendo first party games (specifically games designed for a younger audience) will feature a new system currently being developed by Nintendo called ‘voice to text communication’.

The system works using an advanced voice recognition system which Nintendo has been developing for several years. When a user speaks the sound is converted into on screen text and sent to the other players. However, rather than just plain text being sent the system also picks up the tone, pitch and volume of the voice and translates that into colour, font size and character set. For example, if a player shouts ‘I win’ loudly into the microphone the on screen text may be all capitalized, and in a large red font; conversely if a player speaks quietly the font may be a pastel shade and smaller.

This system also allows online voice communication to be easily censored by the user.”


Sounds good and plausible and this guy supposedly has a good track record, since he did call the wiimote speaker, and there are patents for the Nintendo Speech to Text technology.

Patent 1

Patent 2



   
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: Strell on August 14, 2006, 04:42:03 PM
Why in the hell would we need that when we could have, gasp, voice chat?

C'mon Ninty, that's just a waste of time.

Soon we'll hear of molestors seducing small children with their evil purple text.  

Hu h huhu huh uh uhu.  Purple.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 14, 2006, 04:51:12 PM
Well what about speech to text translation?
Now I could play anyone across the world and we could communicate even though I have no idea how to speak their language.

I could be playing a Japanese man where he could speak Japanese and maybe I could even hear him speak Japanese, but I would see the english text translation at the bottom of the screen.  It would also allow Nintendo to censor the text to keep conversations in the "PG" area.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: EasyCure on August 14, 2006, 05:09:45 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Well what about speech to text translation?
Now I could play anyone across the world and we could communicate even though I have no idea how to speak their language.

I could be playing a Japanese man where he could speak Japanese and maybe I could even hear him speak Japanese, but I would see the english text translation at the bottom of the screen.  It would also allow Nintendo to censor the text to keep conversations in the "PG" area.


those reasons are exactly why i find this very plausible. nintendo would not only be bringing communication without boundries (ie. i could communicate to anyone, no matter what the language) to all their fans but could keep them self in a safety zone by keeping those conversations in the "PG area" like you said. that way there would be no cases of pedophiles speaking to children in purple text like someone else said

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: WalkingTheCow on August 14, 2006, 05:14:15 PM
Also! Very VERY cool for any potential online RPGs. . . You don't really want some 11 year old kid voicing a giant lizard creature or whatever else. I'm always hoping for a Wii online RPG with RP servers. I know, it's pretty unlikely, but at least this would make it all the cooler.

And we'll always have voice chat for 3rd party games.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 14, 2006, 05:52:31 PM
Erm, what's the point of censoring voice chat unless you're not using friend codes, and I thought all first party titles were going to use friend codes?

If your idiot friends decide to swear at you, it ain't Nintendo's fault, and this way pedophiles can still speak to and lure random children.

Also, my f*cking Nintendog can't even tell what I'm saying half the time. They're going to use this voice to text thing on ME?

I ain't holding my breath...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: Strell on August 14, 2006, 06:03:07 PM
I decree that we all use this "viz-o-chat" here in this thread from now on.

So you are all required to use various sizes, colors, bold, italics, and underline to emphasis the mood and tone of your text.

I'm too lazy to do it, so you muf*ckaz can do it for me.

Go on.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: IceCold on August 14, 2006, 08:14:23 PM
Quote

"The controller will contain a small amount of memory, which can be written to by the console (via Bluetooth) during the game. This will usually be used to store small sound files which can be heard via the controller's small internal speaker.
But we knew this.. I heard it on a podcast a while back.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 14, 2006, 08:25:53 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

"The controller will contain a small amount of memory, which can be written to by the console (via Bluetooth) during the game. This will usually be used to store small sound files which can be heard via the controller's small internal speaker.
But we knew this.. I heard it on a podcast a while back.
You have to read the post for it to make sense, it says right at the top of the quote that that quote is from February. I only posted it there to show past credibility, which was stated by the words that I happened to type into that post.

reading comprehension FTL...  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: Zach on August 15, 2006, 04:47:01 AM
As smash brother pointed out.  There is a problem with voice recognition.  Her is an example of me playing brain age:

Me: blue
Game: Try again
me: blue
Game: Try again
Me: BLUE!!
Game: Try again
Me: DAMMIT! YOUR RUINING MY BRAIN AGE!
Game: Try again
Me: I hate you
Game: Try again

I then throw the game across the room
Me: BLUE MOTHA F**KA!  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/14/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 15, 2006, 04:48:50 AM
Post taken from another forum, but all quotes and info taken from www.nintendo-inside.jp

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According to Nintendo Inside we may be getting a cheaper Wii!?!?
It seems Nintendo's stock has hit a new high on The Nikkei due to a cheaper procurement of CPU's due to a larger order?

Nikkei seem to think Wii will go on the market for 19800 Yen and not 25000Yen!!!
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The sales price of Wii assumes 19800 yen.
19:05 Tuesday, August 15, 2006


It seems to expect to be procured at a low price, and the change of the package for CPU of Wii to be a sales assumption price of Wii to 19,800 yen from a past 25,000 yen in the report of Nikko Citigroup according to NIKKEI NET.

Because it is not a free rumor article, you seem may expect this. Do it become a considerable remark that decides an argument in the person who is hesitating whether to still buy Wii?

(Tarecomi Thanks you)]

Link to price topic

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New Nintendo < Osaka Securities Exchange > hits a new high. (2006/08/15 15:35)

(code 7974 at 15:5) Stretch in succession on the fourth. The year's new high 22,310 yen on July 25 is updated to the first session, and gains have been expanded to the post-place. One o'clock is bought up to 22,810 yen of 590 yen up compared with the day before. It is continuously had a good feeling to have raised the target stock prices from a past 21,700 yen to 25,200 yen though the Nikko Citigroup bond left the investment judgment untouched by "1H" on the tenth. In this report?It becomes cheap the package for CPU (central operation processor) ..procurement.. ..the expectation.., and it changes from 25,000 yen to assume the sales price of the next generation family-use game machines 'Wii (We)' to 19,800 yen. The number of the domestic sale is expected ..expectation.. ..strong.. to increase by 50 percent so far, too. ?It makes it.

There was a point with "A recent exchange market price's tending to depreciation of the yen in the dollar and Euro becomes a purchaser hanging" (major bond) in the market, too.


..(.. stock prices of Nintendo/company overview/homepage)


Also Bloomberg are reporting Nintendo are up to there nexts in the development of brain training and Diet training type games for Wii, and expect them to hit by Xmas?

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According to Bloomberg's report, Nintendo seems to be developing software related to dieting for Wii.

"Software related to dieting etc. for 'Training that strengthens the brain' and next generation machine 'Wii' keeps being developed, being progressed from the desire that it wants to make even the person who cannot master the game controller can readily enjoy playing a game, and new range of customers being developed. "

being saidI think that the exercise is good as the possibility of the remote control of Wii. Brain..tray..intellectual training..genre..invent..game..education..useful..think..bring..following.. this time..healthy..use..mere..game machine..family..all..locate..do.

Analyst Hideki Yasuda of the ace bond is "Tendency to which the light user buys the game that it will not be caught in a past frame such as 'Training that strengthens the brain' soon by Kon, and the market extends though a terrible game and a wonderful game were popular up to now" and analyzes it. This year's Christmas sales battle was expected that how the light user was acquired would become a point. It is described, "The domination of Nintendo because it plans to put a light game and a casual game new for wii on the market".

Link to Diet games page
All on www.nintendo-inside.jp


So in summary:
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo
- Wii could launch @ $199 US
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (million sellers in Euro & US?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: EasyCure on August 15, 2006, 05:03:07 AM
that grammar made my head hurt

as for the Diet Training games, that could really catch on in the US since everyone is seemingly becoming more health concious. i read a report not too long ago that teens are the number 1 buyer of bottled water/vitamin waters in the US because of trends to be/stay healthy, and as a result companies like pepsico are losing money on their soda fronts.

now nintendo may come out with a fun way to do simple exercises a few times today, with tips on how to eat right, and you've got yourself a hit! especially if you get oprahs fat as$ to do this on television ;-)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 15, 2006, 05:07:55 AM
Yeah, Diet/Exercise Training will definitely be a big seller...

...but will it feature the floating head of Richard Simmons?  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: decoyman on August 15, 2006, 07:15:33 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
...but will it feature the floating head of Richard Simmons?


lol, we can only hope!!

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 15, 2006, 07:40:20 AM
GoNintendo is reporting Japanese launch at around $170 US dollars (after exchange rates from Yen).

So we could potentially see a price anywhere from $150-$199 in the US realistically, seeing as Nintendo sometimes releases consoles cheaper here.  (DS Lite is an example.)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 15, 2006, 08:10:11 AM
We had been discussing that earlier, I remember: at $150, the Wii becomes an impulse buy item.

I don't know how much money Nintendo spends on making each Wii, but at $150, I think it would be safe to say they'd make up the difference on licensing fees and software sales rather quickly.

People would pay $150 just to mess around with Wii sports.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on August 15, 2006, 10:02:20 AM
Speaking of Richard Simmons, I remember reading that someone named Richard Simmons (I say that because it's unlikely to be THE Richard Simmons...at least I think so) was credited as doing the voice of Tingle in a Zelda game.  Was/is it Twilight Princess?  I forget.  That was a while ago, and was probably someone's flub-up or joke in the IMDB credits or something.

Now, an exercise game with both THE Richard Simmons AND Tingle?  That would either be extremely hilarious, or incredibly scary.  I'm thinking more the latter, though some people might have a good time with it (or at its expense).
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 15, 2006, 11:54:49 AM
I could see THE Richard Simmons doing Tingle.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: BigJim on August 15, 2006, 12:24:02 PM
$170, $230... that's a $60 delta. Someone make up my mind please.

A diet game... that's Oprah material right there. Not personally interested, but very clever.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 15, 2006, 12:44:52 PM
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$170, $230... that's a $60 delta. Someone make up my mind please.


No.


At least not till the night before...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 15, 2006, 01:49:47 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BigJim
$170, $230... that's a $60 delta. Someone make up my mind please.

A diet game... that's Oprah material right there. Not personally interested, but very clever.


Oprah once again returns to the grand scheme of Wii marketing.  If Oprah gets all over this (kinda disgusting when you think about it), American consumers will follow suit.

The ULTIMATE wave of non-gaming market drive.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: nemo_83 on August 15, 2006, 07:36:30 PM
What do you guys think of the recent rumor that Metroid Prime 3 will be delayed.  If it happens, I predict a year long delay, online modes added, cooperative play, and an expansive series of systems to explore (like Super Mario Galaxy, Spore, or Mass Effect).  

I doubt we'll get true vehicle control (though it would work brilliantly with the remote), and when we do get a Metroid that allows us to fly the ship, its use will probably still be limited to an overblown key.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 15, 2006, 11:19:29 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: nemo_83
What do you guys think of the recent rumor that Metroid Prime 3 will be delayed.  If it happens, I predict a year long delay, online modes added, cooperative play, and an expansive series of systems to explore (like Super Mario Galaxy, Spore, or Mass Effect).  

I doubt we'll get true vehicle control (though it would work brilliantly with the remote), and when we do get a Metroid that allows us to fly the ship, its use will probably still be limited to an overblown key.
Look back to Friday, Aug. 11 or pg #9 if your in the 20 post format for discussion that already happened about MP3: Corruption

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2006, 02:40:37 AM
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Original Source: From an IGN article
Nikko Citigroup previously forecast a 25,000 yen price for the Wii. The firm arrived at the new, lower price point based on its expectation that Nintendo will be able to procure the Wii's CPU for less than expected.


My question is how did they procure them for less?  I figure at the beginning of there colloboration with IBM they set a price or a percentage or something.  It also must be significant drop to actually drop the cost.  This could also be an indication that Nintendo had upped there Guarenteed number of processors there going to buy in the next year or so.  Go Bulk Discount!  It would be consistant with the rumor that they are producing more Wii's then originally quoted.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: couchmonkey on August 16, 2006, 02:53:49 AM
Well I believe Nintendo did announce it was going to increase the number of units to be produced before the end of 2006 a couple of weeks ago, that might do it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 16, 2006, 03:30:16 AM
CouchMonkey:

I think you got it.  In the full story it mentions that because of the increase in CPU units ordered by Nintendo they were able to get a better price.

This is great for Nintendo.  First, it means Nintendo is looking for better sales of the Wii during launch.  It also means that we should get a better price on the Wii when it is finally released.

You know I believe Nintendo could sell out of all its units by December.  I bet Nintendo will completely met its sales forcast and still have huge demand of the Wii at launch.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 16, 2006, 03:59:02 AM
Ceric, Couchmonkey & Spak, I just mentioned all of this yesterday and even mentioned it in the summary of the poorly translated articles....
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1 on Tue August 15, 2006 9:48 AM
Post taken from another forum, but all quotes and info taken from www.nintendo-inside.jp

So in summary:
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo
- Wii could launch @ $199 US
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (million sellers in Euro & US?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release


"Testing tesing"
*tap tap tap* *covers ears as mic makes loud screeching noise*
"is this mic working!!"
*tap tap tap*
"Hellooooooo....ah forget it, no ones listening anyway"
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2006, 04:09:08 AM
Ah ha.  I knew there was some speculation about that.  Though Still a larger order of chips I don't think it would normally drop the price to the point that you change your original pricepoint.  Just enough that you pocket the little extra, think $1-2 dollars off the chips.

Also, now that I think about it, has anybody heard whose actually fabricating the chips for Ati?  I wonder if IBM got into that deal.  I know AMD isn't going to allow them to use there Fabrication plants for another year I beleive.  I could see it this effecting the price if all the parties involved gave an extra discount (It would all stack up.) *shrug*
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 16, 2006, 04:34:59 AM
Well it is a HUGE increase to go from 6 million by March '07 to 6 million by Christmas '06 instead. It sounds like they basically doubled their order and by doing so shave off a percentage of the price by ordering in such bulk.

It shows confidence from Nintendo to sell Wii and faith in consumers to buy Wii. It also means larger 4th quarter profits to the manufacturing companies because of the discount they give to Nintendo to increase that production load.

p.s. New rumor(that starts here ) that looks like fact: THQ is out to sabotage all of their Wii projects in the graphical department by producing GC games on Wii disc. All of THQ's Wii offering are basically straight ports of their PS2/GC games graphically with added wiimote functionality. It looks like the spent their entire time working on controls(they didn't even use all the features of the wiimote) and didn't bother to look at the graphics of the game.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 16, 2006, 05:51:47 AM
BlackNMild2k1:  Sorry about that.  I forget to check back pages on threads before posting.

Though, I do remember seeing that post now that you mention it.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2006, 06:02:39 AM
Read that article.  Are you to surprised?  I mean this will be less of a problem with all the other games since they don't have GCN Equivalents.  But those games have GCN equivalents so why reinvent the wheel when you can focus on new play controls?  Plus it states in those articles that they are pre-release and THQ has already stated most will get a Graphical upgrade.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 16, 2006, 06:03:58 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1 p.s. New rumor(that starts here ) that looks like fact: THQ is out to sabotage all of their Wii projects in the graphical department by producing GC games on Wii disc. All of THQ's Wii offering are basically straight ports of their PS2/GC games graphically with added wiimote functionality. It looks like the spent their entire time working on controls(they didn't even use all the features of the wiimote) and didn't bother to look at the graphics of the game.


That's pretty much par for the course for many games ported to the 360, though.

For example, Hitman 2 on the 360 is graphically identical to the Xbox version.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 16, 2006, 06:15:51 AM
This isn't that disheartening to me.  

If there is a THQ game I am interested in, I would rather them focus on tightening up the controls and perfecting how the game plays before moving on to enhancing the graphics.  

However, it sounds like the THQ team has been having problems tightening up the controls and that really bothers me.

I think some studios are not thinking that Nintendo is worth spending the effort and money on...and that may make the consumers see the horrible 3rd party offerings and decided the Wii isn't truly next generation...when it definately is.  The other systems are just insane.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: Anon_Emus on August 27, 2006, 11:35:09 AM
I wonder how many of these rumors will prove to be true
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/15/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 27, 2006, 11:38:46 AM
I'm not sure, but this rumor is to be put to the test in a little over 2 weeks

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Originally posted by: GoNintendo.com

According to him, or his source I should say, Nintendo has been playing us the fool all along. They have been showing us trailers for games that have deliberately downgraded graphics compared to what the Wii can actually do. This is to create an element of surprise for the press during Nintendo’s next media event. I am guessing that would end up being the September 14th press event. During this show they will show off Wii graphics that are “of a quality far exceeding the Xbox”, shocking us all.

You have to wonder why SMG looks alot better than most of the other games we have seen, but I just figured it was because Nintendo has complete access to their own dev-kit and 3rd parties don't.  

edit: gonintendo has another rumor, this one about HMDs and Disaster: Day of Crisis

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Originally posted by: GoNintendo.com
*RUMOR* From the desk of the Regginator

I don’t know what is going on this weekend, but since Friday night I have been getting emailed the strangest stories! As you can see, I haven’t been posting any of them, until I came across the graphical discussion which I posted below. I have another one for you guys that is so outlandish that it needs to go up. Good for a weekend chuckle I think. I apologize to the person who emailed this to me, but I just don’t believe that this story is true. I am more willing to believe our earlier graphics rumor, which I also take with less than a quater of a grain of salt. Regardless of all that, if it is fake, someone took the time to write all this stuff up…so why not give it a home!

Okay, now that I got all that out of the way…the pictures below are “supposed” to be documents written by none other then Reggie Fils-Aime. How did our lucky emailer come to find these goodies? Read his story below.

I noticed Mr. Fils-Aime putting something in the confidential waste bin, and walked over after he had left for a meeting.. the bin was full to the top as usual, and these screwed up pages were just in reach through the lid (without taking it off and spilling papers everywhere). There’s not much I can do to prove my credibility, however I think they may be of interest to you..

Talk about being in the right place at the right time! Our reader says that he scanned the images and sent them my way. I have taken screenshots of the .pdf files, which you can check out below.


click on the link above to read the speech that Reggie supposedly wrote.

in summary:
Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii
The last secret is a Head Mounted Display
Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD
Disaster is to release in January 2007  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Caliban on August 27, 2006, 12:27:58 PM
What about that other post on GoNintendo, the one on Reggie's September 14th speach? Those scans just spooked the hell out of me, if it happens to be true what is written...HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY HOLY NINTENDO!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Anon_Emus on August 27, 2006, 12:31:29 PM
I just saw that too and was going to post it.
Head mounted display!!?? I don't believe it.

edit: BNM already updated

after a closer inspection it looks like those "official" and "real" docs are very very FAKE
is that a wrinkled paper background texture applied to the documents?
It would have looked more authentic if the person had actually printed it out and then crumpled the paper himself then scanned it back in.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 27, 2006, 01:12:54 PM
Ahahaha, there's just so much wishful thinking crammed into that "speech" it's ridiculous...And why would Nintendo reveal a half-dozen new DS games that would most definitely cannibalize software sales this winter?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: BigJim on August 27, 2006, 01:15:10 PM
I hate fanboy blogs.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Grant10k on August 27, 2006, 01:19:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Anon_Emus
I just saw that too and was going to post it.
Head mounted display!!?? I don't believe it.

edit: BNM already updated

after a closer inspection it looks like those "official" and "real" docs are very very FAKE
is that a wrinkled paper background texture applied to the documents?
It would have looked more authentic if the person had actually printed it out and then crumpled the paper himself then scanned it back in.


Yeah, if you increase the contrast on any two of the 'documents' the 'wrinkles' are in the exact same 'place'
(I'm using 'finger quotes' as I type all this)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Caliban on August 27, 2006, 01:22:16 PM
That's why this is the rumour thread, you can say all you want and nobody has to take you seriously.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: BigJim on August 27, 2006, 01:45:34 PM
Well I have an uncle that works for Nintendo and he says that the VR headset is only an optional accessory and that the disc drive is writable and you can make your own games. Oh and that Genesis games won't be on Wii anymore because Sega won't license their "Blast Processing" technology to Nintendo. lolzftwbbq

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 27, 2006, 02:41:56 PM
You mean Wii can't handle Blast Processing :cool:
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: bustin98 on August 27, 2006, 03:12:29 PM
Those images are pretty convincing. Think about this: If you had a stack of papers and shoved them in a trash container, wouldn't they all fold in similar spots? I altered the levels in Photoshop to see the wrinkles and they do vary in size and placement, though close enough to be part of the same stack. So I do think the originator did scan in wrinkled papers.

I did a 'www.anywho.com' reverse lookup on the number posted on the first page. It comes up as Nintendo.

Too bad those things are easily faked. The problem with the images arose when the levels were adjusted. The pixel information is different than the paper. Plus, the words do not follow the folds in the paper.

I support the conclusion that the images from Reggie's desk is fake.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 27, 2006, 04:03:04 PM
It's fake for one reason alone: important documents are SHREDED before they're disposed of.

And I've said it before: if Nintendo is trying to make gaming seem less intimidating, a helmet with wires coming out of it is a thousand steps in the WRONG direction.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on August 27, 2006, 05:05:46 PM
The one thing that lead me to believe that the document was a fake was the attitude they had towards the competition. The sentence "the XBOX 360, a supposed next gen console, has sold less than the DS" sounds more like something a fanboy would say, not a high ranking official.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 27, 2006, 05:21:33 PM
Actually, that's something Reggie WOULD say...He has no problem trashing the competition...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Adrock on August 27, 2006, 05:53:51 PM
It's fake.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 28, 2006, 04:52:17 AM
Fake like PSP success.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: EasyCure on August 31, 2006, 11:50:09 AM
so nintendo has a fall catalog out and i picked one up at a gamestop on my break from work.
on like the second page theres a picture of a wii with a caption reading "coming soon." i chuckled, i'll admit it...
anyway, this is what it had to say about Wii:

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Wii's elegant design makes it an inviting addition to your entertainment setup. Thanks to the Wii Remote, you're given more freedom to place the console where it best suits your lifestyle. It can be a sword in one game and then a steering wheel for racing games. It's your paintbrush, your golf club, your airplane, but most of all, its's your key to unlocking a world of fun you've never imagined.


mario paint get?

every other example they gave has a game or some sort of software demo that corelates with it, except the paintbrush. could this be a hint of things to come???

or am i just looking to far into it just so i could post in this thread and having something to do??
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 31, 2006, 11:54:44 AM
Kirby Canvas Curse Wii, please...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Blue Plant on August 31, 2006, 12:09:41 PM
Bob Ross? :D
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on September 01, 2006, 06:59:20 AM
I'm bored.  We need more Wii rumours.  The crazy-yet-still-possible kind.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: couchmonkey on September 01, 2006, 09:36:29 AM
Okay, my uncle works at Nintendo and he says that Nintendo is going to announce Kid Wiicarus on September 14th.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 01, 2006, 09:45:59 AM
Yeah my cousin once slept with couchmonkey's uncle and he said that there would be a sequel to 7-Up for the Wii called "Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper"
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: couchmonkey on September 01, 2006, 10:17:02 AM
KN: My uncle says your cousin was hot, but not as hot as the Lapis for Wii announcement Nintendo is going to make at TGS.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Louieturkey on September 01, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
The Noid II.  Guaranteed announcement at the conference on 9/14.  Believe it!  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Caliban on September 01, 2006, 12:51:58 PM
On 9/14 the first ever porno turned game will be announced, this is what what the publisher had to say:

"Just look at the controller, it's perfect for such a game, no buttons required for gameplay other than menu selecting and the sorts, totally perfect for the type of interaction we seek for our future clients."
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Artimus on September 01, 2006, 01:10:43 PM
Matt on IGN says Sept. 14 will be huge, and we'll be getting more info than even E3 had, all this month.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Ceric on September 01, 2006, 01:27:34 PM
Ironically Enough I don't think that would be really that hard to do.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: WalkingTheCow on September 01, 2006, 07:00:54 PM
As for the paintbrush comment, I would hope that to be an indicator of Okami more than anything. Not that I'm gonna hold my breath or anything. Just wishing.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Crimm on September 01, 2006, 07:45:04 PM
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The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Developer: Nintendo EAD
Publisher: Nintendo
Genre: Action Adventure
Release Date: August 22, 2006


TP comes with Wii (laughter obligitory).  IGN
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on September 13, 2006, 06:12:16 AM
Haven't seen much in this thread lately, so how about this?

Nintendo Wii Fanboy is saying the latest rumour is that Wii Sports is disappearing from pre-order lists - because the Wii will be bundled with it!  (Or that it will be bundled with the Wii, whichever.)

Supposedly this somehow makes up for a lack of the classic controller, which sounds rumourriffic!  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2006, 06:15:16 AM
I would not be surprised at all...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Caliban on September 13, 2006, 06:24:17 AM
Rumour is that it will be $229, 2 controllers (2 chucks and 2 wiimotes), WiiSports included. I would hope for at least one VC game included, of your choice of course.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: jasonditz on September 13, 2006, 07:38:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Artimus
Matt on IGN says Sept. 14 will be huge, and we'll be getting more info than even E3 had, all this month.


I should hope so, because other than title names E3 didn't really tell us much of anything.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: jasonditz on September 13, 2006, 07:42:15 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BigJim
Well I have an uncle that works for Nintendo and he says that the VR headset is only an optional accessory and that the disc drive is writable and you can make your own games. Oh and that Genesis games won't be on Wii anymore because Sega won't license their "Blast Processing" technology to Nintendo. lolzftwbbq




Genesis does what Nintendon't
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: RickPowers on September 13, 2006, 08:37:01 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
Quote

Originally posted by: BigJim
Well I have an uncle that works for Nintendo and he says that the VR headset is only an optional accessory and that the disc drive is writable and you can make your own games. Oh and that Genesis games won't be on Wii anymore because Sega won't license their "Blast Processing" technology to Nintendo. lolzftwbbq




Genesis does what Nintendon't



Nintendo is what Genesisn't.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Strell on September 13, 2006, 08:52:53 AM
SEGA IS STUPID

NINTENDO IS NINTAWESOME

ROFLMAOMAOFMAOFML!OMLAFOAMLAMO!@!111
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: jasonditz on September 13, 2006, 09:26:23 AM
The guy who thought up blast processing was seriously a marketing genius though. What's better than having the something the customer wants that your competitor doesn't offer? The answer, of course, is having something the customer has been convinced he wants and you have that doesn't actually exist and therefore your competitor will never have.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: Strell on September 13, 2006, 09:57:34 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
The guy who thought up blast processing was seriously a marketing genius though. What's better than having the something the customer wants that your competitor doesn't offer? The answer, of course, is having something the customer has been convinced he wants and you have that doesn't actually exist and therefore your competitor will never have.


WELL NINTENDO HAS WII.

EVERYONE WANTS ONE IN THEIR HANDS.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: RickPowers on September 13, 2006, 10:40:25 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: jasonditz
The guy who thought up blast processing was seriously a marketing genius though. What's better than having the something the customer wants that your competitor doesn't offer? The answer, of course, is having something the customer has been convinced he wants and you have that doesn't actually exist and therefore your competitor will never have.


Actually, Blast Processing did exist ... it just wasn't what anyone thought it was.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: The Omen on September 13, 2006, 10:45:52 AM
I preferred Mode 7.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: BigJim on September 13, 2006, 10:47:57 AM
The Super FX chip was better than CDs.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 8/27/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 28, 2006, 03:15:02 PM
I found this on GAF and it comes from the latest issue of EDGE magazine

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- CNN has signed up with Nintendo as the provider of news content on tne News Channel in American and Japan. News will be presented by category, but another way of getting to it is by spinning the weather globe to find stories in different countries

- Sega has moved a significant number of development staff from PS3 to Wii over the Summer

- Although Nintendo has removed DVD movie playback from the Wii, it plans to launch in Japan next year an enhanced Wii capable of such a feature

- Nintendo intended to bring Wii to shop shelves in the UK and US for £150 and $200, but became influenced by pressure from the larger retail chains, which raised concerns over margins and low so-called 'basket value' (ie, the amount of revenue generated from a customer's overall purchases at the till)

- There are plenty of Wii Channel slots remaining to be filled

- Edge says that Wii Sports will be to Wii what Mario 64 was to the N64. Says golf has the best single player mode (no surprise) and boxing is their favourite overall

1) If you have to go with a news provider CNN would be a good one to go for

2) Wonder what they are developing and what PS games they pulled people from.

3) WiiQ or WiiSP in the works?

4) Retailers made Nintendo charge more for the Wii?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: IceCold on October 28, 2006, 03:34:37 PM
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Nintendo intended to bring Wii to shop shelves in the UK and US for £150 and $200, but became influenced by pressure from the larger retail chains, which raised concerns over margins and low so-called 'basket value' (ie, the amount of revenue generated from a customer's overall purchases at the till)
Doesn't make sense. Retailers make a minimal profit on consoles; the margins on accessories and games are much higher. Therefore, retailers would want as low a console price as possible, so that customers would spend more on items other than the console.

On an somewhat note, it's an interesting scenario for third parties (and retailers). On one hand, Nintendo consoles at launch usually have a great tie-in ratio, so more games will be sold. Also, many of Nintendo's own titles have been pushed back, giving the third party games a better chance of higher sales. However, WiiSports is packed in, and developers may be concerned about the impact of it; some buyers may be content with just the package, and won't buy any other games.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Edfishy on October 28, 2006, 03:34:41 PM
Hm, CNN is kinda neat, but I'd prefer something a bit more generic, like "TIME" or something.  CNN's a little deep for a fun-loving console like the Wii.

I can believe retailers would push Nintendo into upping the price $50.  They're getting a little used to selling expensive technology. The price will likely drop $20 next Christmas, and then to $200 in 2008.  By 2009 it'll be $150.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: IceCold on October 28, 2006, 06:40:33 PM
About SEGA, hopefully they will finally realise that many of their franchises can be improved drastically by the controller. Panzer Dragoon, NiGHTS, light gun games, racing games - if SEGA had any sense, they would makes these for Wii.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Ceric on October 29, 2006, 03:22:22 AM
Probably what happened was that the retail chains saw how low the price was compared to the other consoles and wanted a bigger margin because they knew people would buy at an only slightly reduced rate with the extra $50.  Thats probably why we are also getting the Opera browser for free for the first bit.  Another reasoning is that the relatively slight increase in price will also bring down demand enough to make sure that there are enough people who want it to keep it sold out throughout Christmas but in such a manner that they could keep getting resupplied so that it still be relatively easy to find with a little looking.
Also I heard that there was a problem with the production of the Wiimotes.  Which would explain why some places have ran out of pre-orders of controllers.  That could also be a  factor in that regards.  Trying to keep it so that most don't notice.
Also but yielding to this sort of demand it makes the retailers the bad people on this and make them more inclined to accommodate or entertain some of Nintendo's requests.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: zakkiel on October 29, 2006, 04:56:05 AM
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Hm, CNN is kinda neat, but I'd prefer something a bit more generic, like "TIME" or something.
Time has at least its share problems, but as a serious news source it beats the living $#!^ out of CNN. This is the first time I've heard anyone accuse CNN of being too deep for anything. Its coverage could not penetrate a brown paper bag.
/rant

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Although Nintendo has removed DVD movie playback from the Wii, it plans to launch in Japan next year an enhanced Wii capable of such a feature
Uh-oh. I smell the approach of... Ian Sane!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on October 29, 2006, 06:21:05 AM
Two of my friends -- they don't know each other -- told me that Game Crazy and GameStop stores will be getting Wii demo units in by the end of this month.  That is two days from now.  One friend found out online (so it must be true lol), and the other friend works at GameCrazy.  Apparently this information came from the Nintendo rep.

I want this to be true, but I don't want to get my hopes up.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 29, 2006, 07:35:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Myxtika1 Azn I want this to be true, but I don't want to get my hopes up.


That would mean Nintendo has until tues to get these into stores.

Truthfully, I think they're a bit late already. It's 21 days until Wii launch and still no kiosks, and this is for a system that needs to be PLAYED to be believed...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: BlkPaladin on October 29, 2006, 07:40:09 AM
Well I still haven't seen a PS3 kiosk any where yet ether so they are not the only ones "late".

Putting a little resoning behind this. You don't want to have a console out too early (the kiosks) if it breaks it will no look good when it released and there is a broken one out for demo. (Xbox 360)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 29, 2006, 03:18:08 PM
True, but I'm sure Nintendo has already taken steps to ensure the stores know how to properly care for the Wii setup.

God knows, they must have already paid Best Buy to get them to do what they've done for the Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: couchmonkey on October 30, 2006, 02:34:10 AM
Like they ensured proper care of DS setups?  "Please tell your customers that the screens only work if you scratch them extra-hard!  In some cases keys work better than the stylus."

Hurr, sorry, couldn't resist.  I actually agree that the demo systems should hit stores pretty soon here.  Damage may be a concern, but I don't think it will be that big...controllers are cheaper to replace than entire units as in the DS case.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Strell on October 30, 2006, 04:20:02 AM
Gonintendo.com is reporting that "there is another big secret with the Wii that will be revealed at launch," citing a supposed comment directly from God himself - Reggie - at a recent Gamestop workers meeting.

I personally don't believe it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on October 30, 2006, 05:20:01 AM
^I was going to say that too, Strell.  The rumour of "one last secret" also made its way to Infendo.

I'm hesitant to believe that there could be more.  Not that I wouldn't welcome it if there was more!

If it's anything at all, it's likely not hardware-based.  I would guess it has to do with online functionality, another Wii Channel, perhaps, or something like WiiPlay coming to North America after all...but maybe something like it's broken up into individual downloadable parts to get people used to the idea of downloading new games from the Virtual Console.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Strell on October 30, 2006, 06:14:48 AM
The most possible candidates are:  Wii Play bundled, Wii Channels/WiiConnect/Online functionality is explained or fleshed out, or the VC is getting beefier.

It can't be hardware related at this point, and I see no reason for a lot of the other big speculations to be pertinent, as there would be no reason for Nintendo to keep stuff like this under wraps at this point.  What more can they lose?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 30, 2006, 06:26:47 AM
The Wii...makes toast.

...

MEGATOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Ceric on October 30, 2006, 06:39:19 AM
I believe it will be channel related.  For the sole reason that as Matt pointed out Nintendo isn't giving Press Demo Units and that the Developers ones still don't have any of the channels.  Also am I the only one who thinks central Sound and Screen Preference settings are cool and about time?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Requiem on October 30, 2006, 07:06:31 AM
You guys are all forgetting something that Nintendo, even after revealing it, has tucked away and never spoke of it again.


I'm talking about single-disc LAN multi-player. It's genius if it can be accomplished.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Ceric on October 30, 2006, 07:08:32 AM
No reason why not.  You just have to keep the game under 512.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 30, 2006, 07:10:16 AM
That would be kinda...difficult.

The best you could do then is have the same situation with the DS where it can offload a watered-down version of the game to nearby Wiis.

Personally, I wouldn't get excited about that at all.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 30, 2006, 07:12:26 AM
I think there may be a few secrets left with the Wii...or more accurately a few more details.

The two most believable possibilities are some sort of portability.  Hinted at in early SquareEnix interviews commenting that the system is a combination of a home system and portable device.

And the other possibilities that is even bigger than the portability is an idea of mine that comes with support from IGN.  Virtual Console tools available cheaply for ALL inspiring game developers.  

This would open up the ability for ALL potential developers and small development houses to develop virtual console games, and a business structure can be formed for virtual distribution of the system which Nintendo and the developers get to share profits.  In the end, this will help pay for online games and all servers needed, and at the same time open up the Nintendo Wii to truly be the system for independent games.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Requiem on October 30, 2006, 07:15:08 AM
And why not?

It could do wonders for FPS's. And what about something like Fight Night?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 30, 2006, 07:17:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
And why not?

It could do wonders for FPS's. And what about something like Fight Night?


Provided it can do more for multiplayer than the current one cart DS games do, then sure. Otherwise, it'll just be a preview situation where you can get a taste of what the game would be like multiplayer and basically be encouraged to go buy more copies.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Ceric on October 30, 2006, 07:20:25 AM
Exactly.  Get a taste and then go buy your own copy.  Thats all a feature like that is truly for.  Especial with a console.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on October 30, 2006, 07:29:36 AM
What with loading textures, models, sounds, etc., I just can't imagine you'd get the FULL multiplayer experience unless you had multiple copies of the game, especially when that 512 MB will be filled with other data already.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Ceric on October 30, 2006, 07:41:49 AM
Ok.  Lets just say for the sake of argument you have 16 self contained levels in your game.  A Dual Layer DVD can hold about 8 gigs so thats 8192 bytes so now lets divide that up into my 16 self contained levels.  So we get 512 megs per self contained level.  Code itself is relatively small and easy to compress.  Now sounds and graphics can be huge, the assets.  You could get a pretty good experience with 512 especially if there is an efficient why to do decompression.

Actually I cool idea would be single disc multisystem Co-op play.  You stream the data you need across the network as you play.  some clever design and it play the same.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 30, 2006, 07:47:13 AM
I think single disc multiplayer is very unlikely for a fairly complicated game. There is alot of data to send across, very much unlike the DS where all of the games in their entirety are a few megs. I guess we will have to wait and see.

Personally I hope Nintendo announces the WiiPlay package for America. Damn Nintendo for making this 3 week wait even more unbearable!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 10/28/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on October 30, 2006, 07:56:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
Damn Nintendo for making this 3 week wait even more unbearable!
It's actually less than three weeks now, and though I curse the fact that there are too many good games to play on the DS that were released recently, that is actually quite a blessing.  Pick up a few games and focus on those and the three weeks will be over with soon enough!

Maybe that is the secret...a Wii Channel called the "DS Channel".  No longer would we need a Super Game Boy/Transfer Pak/Game Boy Player to play our handheld games on the big screen!

(Okay, maybe not.  That would still require a DS for the touch screen, and you'd have to look where you're touching.  Though I'd always hoped for some way to output DS video to a big screen, so I could do a proper presentation of Brain Age at work, for example, or other instances where you want to show people what you're doing.)

Yeah, the secret's probably some channel.  But what kind of channel?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2006, 05:19:27 PM
Nobody thinks it could be big exclusive game announcements? (DQIX)
or maybe an earlier than expected release? (Nov. 2nd) (i know its not gonna happen)
isn't there a Nintendo Show for Wii coming up sometime this week or next?

nah you guys are probably right, I'm sure its some new Wii Channel or softrware feature that was never elaborated on. I could almost guarantee that its nothing to get worked up about.
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Post by: IceCold on October 30, 2006, 05:57:13 PM
DivX playback capabilities on the video channel. I can dream..
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Post by: JonLeung on October 31, 2006, 02:28:27 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
DivX playback capabilities on the video channel. I can dream..


Isn't that mostly handy for pirated videos and porn?

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Post by: Smash_Brother on October 31, 2006, 02:41:37 PM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
Isn't that mostly handy for pirated videos and porn?


What about the "One handed controller" bit didn't tip you off?
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Post by: AnyoneEB on November 01, 2006, 02:56:55 AM
JonLeung: Uh, you actually still use physical DVDs? Weirdo.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2006, 04:48:31 AM
Looks like the DVD rumor came true. I'm still not sure why they announced it, then took it away, then announced it again for a later date.
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Post by: JonLeung on November 13, 2006, 04:53:41 AM
Hopefully it's just a software/firmware upgrade, so I can play "My Plaything: Stacy Valentine" on my Wii without having to buy another one.

What did I say?  I mean..."Transformers: The Movie - 20th Anniversary Special Edition".  Yeah, that.

Too.
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Post by: Strell on November 13, 2006, 07:04:36 AM
Playing porn on my Wii will be fun in a very, very ironic sense.
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Post by: JonLeung on November 13, 2006, 08:16:34 AM
I could always put a bunch of images and videos on an SD card and mess with the Photo Channel.  (It was once joked that I could put porn on any device, though I've yet to do it with a toaster as someone suggested.)
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Post by: SgtShiversBen on November 13, 2006, 08:30:37 AM
All you have to do is just tape a paper of Victoria Silvestead and there you go.  Or embed it in the toast.
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Post by: JonLeung on November 13, 2006, 09:08:25 AM
I'm pretty sure it's "Silvstedt".

Anyway, I'm glad the camera I bought before my trip to LA for E3 uses SD cards.  So the first set of photos I can browse on the Photo Channel will be of me playing the Wii for the first time, six months ago.  It's like one of those trippy looking-glass situations.  Or something.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2006, 02:58:25 AM
Are we allowed to quote GoNintendo.com?

well anyway, here goes...

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“Something big is coming to the Virtual Console, something that, for the past decade, certain corners of the retro community have been crying out for. I wish I could say more, but the uncertainties of publishing schedules prevents me from spilling the beans too early. Nevertheless, if what we’ve heard turns out to be true, the virtual console is about to become a lot more interesting and looks like it might turn out to be much more valuable to dedicated retro gamers than we first thought.”


First thing that comes to mind would be Goldeneye 64 and hopefully with online multi-player, but that would be too goog to be true, so we can rule that out.
Anyone got any guesses?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 05, 2006, 03:03:28 AM
Chrono Trigger

EDIT:  LAFFO nintendo64 is retro?  it's only been 10 something years since it came out somewhat barely maybe sorta slightly yeah.  
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2006, 03:11:33 AM
Well it could be Neo Geo games, or Nintendo/Sega Arcade games. Eathbound? Enhaced* Classic games in addition to the untouched originals.

*(online, new grafix, better framerates)
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Post by: PaLaDiN on December 05, 2006, 03:22:09 AM
Sin & Punishment.
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Post by: vudu on December 05, 2006, 03:23:33 AM
The Factory Level of Donkey Kong.
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Post by: bustin98 on December 05, 2006, 03:25:58 AM
I'm throwing my hat in the 'Goldeneye' ring. What else have people been asking for over the past 10 years? And I'm sure many people here are familiar with the many atempts to bring it out as a mod using various gaming engines, the most recent using the Source Engine.

What a coup if Goldeneye had online multiplayer. I'd be spastic. Of course, it would be better if the Wii-mote worked with it, but I won't be picky.
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Post by: JonLeung on December 05, 2006, 03:37:24 AM
When they say things like "the virtual console is about to become a lot more interesting" I hope it's more than just one game (no matter how great) or even a series.  Because unless you're a fan of that particular game or series, it doesn't really make the VC that much more interesting.  Of course we're picking at semantics here but I wouldn't say it like that unless it meant some kind of new feature overall.

Like online multiplayer.  How hard would it be for some "blanket" emulator feature to accept input from another person's online Wii as the 2P input?  Seriously!  Yet that simple thing would make a lot of games much more fun.

Maybe a whole new console. Neo-Geo and arcade games do sound like good choices but you'd think the "retro community" wouldn't be averse to using MAME because they don't have a legal alternative.  Unless they're saying that this is the legal alternative they've been waiting for, but arcade purists will probably want a classic joystick then.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2006, 03:43:21 AM
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Maybe a whole new console. Neo-Geo and arcade games do sound like good choices but you'd think the "retro community" wouldn't be averse to using MAME because they don't have a legal alternative. Unless they're saying that this is the legal alternative they've been waiting for, but arcade purists will probably want a classic joystick then.
But there were Arcade Joysticks for the GC and I'm sure there will be Arcade Joysticks to attach to the Wiimote soon too.
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Post by: Smoke39 on December 05, 2006, 03:46:56 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
Like online multiplayer.  How hard would it be for some "blanket" emulator feature to accept input from another person's online Wii as the 2P input?  Seriously!

Um, yeah, good luck keeping everyone's game in sync without programming game-specific lag-compensation.
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Post by: couchmonkey on December 05, 2006, 03:53:52 AM
I'm going to argue on the idea of online multiplayer simply because I don't think Nintendo is ready yet.  I believe online multiplayer will debut with Wii games before it debuts on VC.

My guess is that it will turn out to be nothing, but if something does come of this rumour...let's see.  I don't think Chrono Trigger or any other rare but actually released game is valuable to retro gamers.  To me it would have to be a new system (Neo Geo) or a game that never saw the light of day in North America.  I shouldn't dare to dream, but...Sin and Punishment or Mother?</fantasy>

Edit: Or perhaps it will be some type of feature.  A library listing all possible VC games?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 05, 2006, 03:55:35 AM
Game Boy Colour
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Post by: Smoke39 on December 05, 2006, 04:00:02 AM
The ability to organize your games in subchannels (e.g., all SNES games in an SNES channel). o:

Or maybe the ability to customize games' button mappings. O:
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Post by: decoyman on December 05, 2006, 04:01:44 AM
I tend to think it must be either:
1. A series appearing on VC that hasn't been revisited for a long time, such as Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana. OR
2. An unreleased (but nearly finished) game, such as Mother 3.

But blanket online play for VC games would be pretty cool too, though i'm not sure it's technically feasible.
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Post by: Smoke39 on December 05, 2006, 04:03:39 AM
Mother 3 was completed and has been out in Japan for a while now...
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on December 05, 2006, 04:03:53 AM
screw all that, it's NGage coming to rock the Wii house.
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Post by: Rhoq on December 05, 2006, 04:24:04 AM
I'm going to guess that it's not a game per se, but support for additional systems on the virtual console (ie. ColecoVision, Intellivision, Commodore 64 and maybe even Atari 2600).
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2006, 04:24:26 AM
"Edit: Or perhaps it will be some type of feature. A library listing all possible VC games? "

A VC Most Wanted Poll?
I could see that working to a certain extent.

A monthly list of about 100 or so games(some popular some not)* get voted on and 5-10 of those get released every week from the Top 50 or so chosen/voted games. Every month the 100 list get reshuffled and some of the higher voted stragglers get left on and lots of new choices show up. Sounds like a plan, and a good way for Nintendo to keep the players involved and aware and keep VC sales up at the same time.


*all chosen by Nintendo of course
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Post by: ryancoke on December 05, 2006, 04:43:23 AM
I agree with Rhoq, I think it will be the addition of other non-nintendo platforms.  Atari, Intellevision, Colecovision, etc.  I would love if Nintendo released free dev kits to the homebrew community for free VC games.  Or if Nintendo brought new DS games to the VC. I'm dying to play New Super Mario Bros, but i'm not going to buy a DS.
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Post by: Crimm on December 05, 2006, 04:51:08 AM
I'm going to vote it is just more GoNintendo shenanigans.
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Post by: Ian Sane on December 05, 2006, 05:03:22 AM
I think the "ten years" comment suggests something that hasn't been localized in North America getting translated.  Something like the missing Dragon Quests or Fire Emblem.  Unless "ten years" is just a dumb choice of words.

It can't be Goldeneye because it came out in 1997, less than ten years ago.  And a re-release of Goldeneye has only become a really big "fantasy game" since Rare left Nintendo and thus created the weird scenario of the publisher, developer, and licenced property itself all being seperated from each other.

Something like Neo-Geo games on the VC also isn't ten years old.  Features specific to the VC itself have only been in demand since the concept was annouced which was probably not even two years ago.

"Ten years" suggests that this is something we've wanted since well before the VC was annouced.

"Or if Nintendo brought new DS games to the VC. I'm dying to play New Super Mario Bros, but i'm not going to buy a DS."

I'd rather have a DS player so I don't have to rebuy my games.  Plus that would make way more sense for Nintendo.  VC DS sales eating into their DS game sales wouldn't be very good.  They want you to own two different systems or at the very least buy a piece of hardware for your Wii.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2006, 05:06:17 AM
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To sum up/recap the hints given on the rllmuk forum:

- Around a decade old
- Not a Sega or Nintendo game
- Not for a system supported by the VC currently
- Not of Japanese origin
- Not on THIS LIST

Retro Gamer mag will have an exclusive on the announcement, so it's bound to be something European and once-cancelled. I bet it's a left-for-dead Amiga title.

that should narrow it down.

"I agree with Rhoq, I think it will be the addition of other non-nintendo platforms."
not to nit-pick but I believe I brough the inclusion on non-nintendo platform 1st w/ Neo-geo or Arcade or something. [/nit-picking] :P
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Post by: NeoThunder on December 05, 2006, 05:11:23 AM
I would think it's the addition of a new system, atari 2600 sounds probable....however, how much would you be willing to spend on 2600 games, I know I would rather spend my money on better games.   Nintendo DS will never make it's way to VC, give it up.  Now download station, maybe....I'd love to see that.  The polling question I would love to see too....it would make it so the games people want to buy would make their way to the VC.
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Post by: D_MaN87 on December 05, 2006, 05:12:45 AM
I can't handle the anticipation!  when will it be announced?!  it better be something good though.
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Post by: Louieturkey on December 05, 2006, 05:13:27 AM
Maybe that Castlevania game for the PC Engine, Rondo Blood or something like that.  Isn't that considered one of the best Castlevania's ever and it never showed up here?
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Post by: The Omen on December 05, 2006, 05:56:58 AM
I think it's Neo Geo.  Those games used to sell for $200, so not nearly enough people played them.  It's not like SNK is making any money off them now, so charging $10 on the VC will make everyone happy.  Yes, I know 10 is a little high, but for something pretty rare, I would pay it.
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Post by: JonLeung on December 05, 2006, 07:02:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Louieturkey
Maybe that Castlevania game for the PC Engine, Rondo Blood or something like that.  Isn't that considered one of the best Castlevania's ever and it never showed up here?


Rondo Of Blood, or Chi no Rondo.  Somehow Zeric (great mapper, BTW) managed to map that game recently and the maps are now on my web site (VGMaps.com).  Just the other day it was number 1 on a daily GameFAQs top ten list (funny, I never usually read those) of the top ten games for consoles you've never owned.  Supposedly it comes right before Symphony Of The Night (I think the ending is SoTN's intro), but it's more linear like all the previous CastleVania games were.

I don't think that would be this particular big deal in question, but it would be sweet for that game to be more accessible.  Only problem is, a torrent shows that this game is like 400 MB.  Or at least its imagefile, I don't know how compressed it could be or how much of that is wasted space.  It was on the PC Engine CD thingy so it's quite unlikely as most CD games would be.
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Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 07:24:51 AM
All this hype for what will turn out to be a search feature.

It's Mame.  Thats the only thing that would make the VC "very interesting".  Legal Arcade emulation would rock.
Also PS1 as a Virtual Console system would be something "really interesting."
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Post by: The Traveller on December 05, 2006, 08:13:24 AM
Could it be the infamous Virtual Boy?
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Post by: The Traveller on December 05, 2006, 08:13:45 AM
Delete this double post
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Post by: Strell on December 05, 2006, 08:26:59 AM
I predict this will be a massive letdown.

After the "big secret at launch" debacle, I don't buy into secrets anymore.

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Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 08:41:11 AM
Virtual Boy would be wonderful but most people wouldn't care.
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Post by: JonLeung on December 05, 2006, 11:50:12 AM
The point of Virtual Boy games is to play them on a Virtual Boy, even if it'll sear your eyes out.
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Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2006, 12:23:06 PM
Yes, but I challenge you to find me a replacement one.  Also the games.  I mean seriously few people have ever known the goodness of the Virtual Boy Searing.
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Post by: JonLeung on December 05, 2006, 11:02:05 PM
I was already a total Nintendo fanboy before that time, but even I was hesitant about the Virtual Boy.  So I just rented it (along with Red Alarm and Teleroboxer).  I ignored the many of the ocassional in-game "take a break" warnings.  I probably shouldn't've.  Even though I doubt it caused any serious and/or permanent damage, the warnings are there for a reason (probably to cover Nintendo's butt) but at the very least I didn't want to look at anything red for the next couple days.

Weren't there only a dozen or so VB games?  Other than Teleroboxer I was only interested in Mario Clash (not sure if that ever came out, but wasn't that shown in a WarioWare game?), Wario Land VB (or was it Wario Cruise?), and maybe the original Mario Tennis.
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Post by: Rhoq on December 05, 2006, 11:10:36 PM
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Originally posted by: Strell
I predict this will be a massive letdown.

After the "big secret at launch" debacle, I don't buy into secrets anymore.




That was just people on the various forums making sh*t up by twisting Reggie's words around.
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Post by: ryancoke on December 05, 2006, 11:31:22 PM
I bet the big secret is downloadable episodes of the Super Mario Brothers Super Show!  That would rule...

"Well excuuuuuussse me princess"   Classic
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Post by: JonLeung on December 05, 2006, 11:46:46 PM
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Originally posted by: ryancoke
I bet the big secret is downloadable episodes of the Super Mario Brothers Super Show!  That would rule...
"Well excuuuuuussse me princess"   Classic
I thought the Super Mario Bros. Super Show and The Legend Of Zelda cartoon DVDs were produced by Sony BMG/Entertainment/something or other so wouldn't it be more likely as PS3 downloadable content?

I like Zelda's voice in that show ( o_0 ) but Twilight Princess Zelda is now the hottest Zelda IMO.
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Post by: Strell on December 06, 2006, 05:36:12 AM
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Originally posted by: Rhoq

That was just people on the various forums making sh*t up by twisting Reggie's words around.


This is truth, but I imagine the same thing could be going on here.

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Post by: JonLeung on December 06, 2006, 05:50:14 AM
Following up on that GamesTM rumour about something going down with the Virtual Console...
It's not a console game, and it's not from Japan.

What does that leave us with?  Not many of the guesses so far.  Computer/arcade games of the non-Japanese variety are left, I guess.
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Post by: ryancoke on December 06, 2006, 06:03:30 AM
i hope it's not something wiitarded like the arcade version of Pong. That would be a huge let down. Although with all the hype about this "mystery game" i'm sure it will be somewhat of a letdown at least to the fanboyz  
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Post by: Ian Sane on December 06, 2006, 06:41:27 AM
If it ain't a console game and it ain't from Japan then I'm really not all that interested.

I really can't imagine any non-Japanese arcade/PC/portable games being released on the VC being a huge deal.  At least nothing that compares to how the rumour was worded.

Has there been some non-Japanese arcade/PC/portable game that hasn't been playable for a long period of time?  A lot of classic PC games are really hard or just outright impossible to play on modern XP machines so I guess a title like that arriving on the VC would be a pretty big deal.  But a lot of the big titles have been re-released in some form on compilations that work on XP machines or fans have made their own workarounds.

Maybe it's Star Control II.  Technically that was released on a the 3DO console but it is originally a computer game and it's American and it has been hyped for years as one of the best games of all time.  I know there was some project involving the source code from the 3DO game to get something that works on modern PCs but I don't know if it ever worked out.  This just popped into my head a second ago though and I have no faith at all in that guess.

I wouldn't be surprised if the result was in fact a console game (or had been ported to a console at some point) made in Japan in which demand has existed for far less than ten years.  A lot of people are idiots and don't do enough research.  Hell for a second I was trying to think of an American arcade game I would want localized and the first games I thought of were X-Men and WWF Wrestlefest.  Both of them have American licences but are made by Japanese companies so at first thought I thought they qualified.  You kind of assume a WWF game is American, you know?  The guy giving the clues might be doing the same thing.  And gaming years are like dog years and half the time when someone says "10 years" they don't realize the game is much newer than that (or older).  I've seen some really out there dates thrown around for past release dates.
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Post by: Louieturkey on December 06, 2006, 06:52:02 AM
Maybe it's NBA Jam (of course, that is older than 10 years and it's been ported a bunch, but the arcade perfect version might be coming).  You never can tell.

Or else it's a computer game that never was ported to a console.  Don't know any that are 10 years old that could actually be under 512MB though.
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Post by: ryancoke on December 06, 2006, 06:58:58 AM
Maybe it's Doom?  It would be pretty cool if they included it with online support.
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Post by: Ian Sane on December 06, 2006, 07:05:07 AM
"Maybe it's Doom? It would be pretty cool if they included it with online support."

Doom with online support would be nice but I got my brother the Doom Collector's Edition for Christmas and it plays perfectly on XP.  Doom is a classic that totally holds up but it would be a real letdown if that's what the secret game was.  It is easy as hell to have a working version of that game and legally too.

A general PC emulator though for DOS games that don't work on XP would be a pretty big deal.  Maybe that's it.  Retro game communities sure as hell have wanted an easy solution for playing those games for a while now.  Though without a keyboard and mouse who really cares?  Retro PC games with console controls aren't going to be so hot.
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Post by: JonLeung on December 06, 2006, 07:05:26 AM
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Originally posted by: ryancoke
Maybe it's Doom?  It would be pretty cool if they included it with online support.
Isn't the original Doom (or DOOM, whatever) on Xbox Live Arcade now with online support?  Whoever started this particular rumour makes it sound like it's something that hasn't been done before.  So I would guess that anything on XBLA is out.
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Post by: vudu on December 07, 2006, 03:32:07 AM
Myst?
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Post by: Smash_Brother on December 07, 2006, 03:40:51 AM
MAME: multiple arcade machine emulator?

There are many arcade roms which have no means of distribution and if Nintendo were to buy out the MAME project, they'd have access to an emulator which already runs well over a thousand arcade roms, including old favorites like TMNT and the Simpsons, both by Konami.

EDIT: Rereading the quote, I'm betting it's the ability to download VC games onto your DS and play them there.

You have to figure that the DS storage memory is likely more than enough to handle most any VC game so it's definitely an option for them.
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Post by: vudu on December 07, 2006, 03:47:15 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
MAME: multiple arcade machine emulator?
How big are old-school arcade ROMS?
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Post by: Smash_Brother on December 07, 2006, 04:28:07 AM
Depends.

The oldest are under 10k. Newer ones can be about 12 MB (Golden Axe, Revenge of the Death Adder) and ones which include video and such can be much larger.
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Post by: Pale on December 07, 2006, 04:52:15 AM
I haven't read this rumor all that much.  Something about VC support for a classic set of games that isn't for a console currently supported and isn't Japanese?

Has anyone said anything about it being SCUMM?

I think that would rock pretty hard.  Point and click games with Wii pointer support?
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on December 07, 2006, 05:05:01 AM
That reminds me.  As long as we're being hopeful, maybe it's an honest-to-goodness confirmation of the new episodic Sam and Max game coming to the Wii.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: SixthAngel on December 07, 2006, 05:52:52 AM
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Originally posted by: Pale
I haven't read this rumor all that much.  Something about VC support for a classic set of games that isn't for a console currently supported and isn't Japanese?

Has anyone said anything about it being SCUMM?

I think that would rock pretty hard.  Point and click games with Wii pointer support?


This is the first thing I thought of.  Sam and Max, Monkey Island, and all that jazz.  I want to see Grimm Fandango brought to the vc though.  That game was awesome.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: capamerica on December 07, 2006, 06:17:31 AM
point n' click PC adveture games sounds like the most logical one.
I would have said MAME but the "Not of Japanese origin" pretty much ended that.

When I first read the story I thought it could have been one of these:
- Final Fantasy VII on the VC since FFVII came out in 1997 it would make it close to 10 years old. Thou the built-in memeory wouldn't really suport it, maybe by then Nintendo would alow you to run games off of a USB or SD card.

- SNK NEO-GEO, It came out in 1990 and its a retro gamers dream. And SNK has mentioned that they were in talks with Nintendo about suporting the VC

- MAME, Arcade games would be a pretty safe bet, I mean MS has arcade games.

- Apple Pippin games, Yes all 20(give or take) games for it.

- Classic PC FPS (Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: ryancoke on December 07, 2006, 07:24:29 AM
Taking a cue from the success of Doom on XBLA, nintendo will bring us Rise of the Triad online.  ROTT was soooo awesome!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: Smoke39 on December 07, 2006, 10:36:56 AM
I'd rather see Blood.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: Strell on December 07, 2006, 10:59:29 AM
F that.

ROTT FTMFW.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: Ceric on December 07, 2006, 01:17:02 PM
Doesn't Arcade games have American roots?
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Post by: Crimm on December 07, 2006, 04:16:12 PM
GUYS!  I FIGURED IT OUT!

Hotel Mario on the VC.

I can't wait to close the koopalings' doors!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on December 07, 2006, 04:55:24 PM
They should put the whole King's Quest/Space Quest/Police Quest/Gabriel Knight/7th Guest/Myst series on the VC.
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Post by: Strell on December 07, 2006, 09:13:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Crimm
GUYS!  I FIGURED IT OUT!

Hotel Mario on the VC.

I can't wait to close the koopalings' doors!


All toasters toast toast FTW?
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Post by: Athrun Zala on December 07, 2006, 09:49:10 PM
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Originally posted by: PartyBear
That reminds me.  As long as we're being hopeful, maybe it's an honest-to-goodness confirmation of the new episodic Sam and Max game coming to the Wii.
I thought it was already confirmed with with all the "we want to release it for Wii but lack devkits" and Nintendo contacting them later...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: couchmonkey on December 08, 2006, 12:01:29 AM
Atari Jaguar = Alien vs. Predator.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2006, 03:58:05 AM
Rumors from the New EGM (Jan 07)

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Mii Crossing. Mii's will be your avatar in the next Animal Crossing. All the shirts and accessories you collect will cross over to other games.

Sticky Balls. The New Katamari that is coming to Wii (PS3 & XBLA)


question. How often do EGM rumors turn out to be true?  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/05/2006)
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 11, 2006, 03:59:49 AM
Oh man, EGM is REAAAAALLY stretching with the Animal Crossing Mii rumour... *rolls eyes*

(I don't really understand what they mean by having accessories "cross over to other games" though...Do they mean that it'll save onto the flash memory so your Miis will appear with the accessories in the Mii Channel?)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2006, 08:00:38 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Rumors from the New EGM (Jan 07)

question. How often do EGM rumors turn out to be true?


About as often as Kotaku does legitimate journalism.
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Post by: Ceric on December 11, 2006, 08:15:33 AM
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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
They should put the whole King's Quest/Space Quest/Police Quest/Gabriel Knight/7th Guest/Myst series on the VC.


Hero's Quest.  I would like to play Space Quest again.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Strell on December 11, 2006, 08:20:55 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1


question. How often do EGM rumors turn out to be true?


I've asked this myself before, and the answer I got was "not very."

What else have they suggested in the last 6 months?  I can name a few - Earthbound compilation on DS and 30 games in Wii Sports.  Neither of which came close to happening.  I imagine the EB one could still happen, but I really doubt it at this point.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 11, 2006, 12:58:33 PM
I don't believe EGM rumors.  Go back into time with EGM and most aren't true.  

That being said...Animal Crossing Shirts spreading to other games with Miis would be awesome.  It would require a Mii upgrade but that could be included in the Animal Crossing game, and it would ensure that Animal Crossing Wii sold to everybody.  

Fun fact about EGM.  Once upon a time they had Psycho Letters.  Basically really stupid letters that people wrote about games.  Well before Mortal Kombat 3 came out, my friends and I wrote a letter to EGM that got published.  It was a song for Mortal Kombat 3 to the tune of Be Our Guest from Beauty and the Beast.

"Be my Guest, Be my Guest
Rip my heart out of my Chest
as we Perform the Mortal Kombat Moves which we know are the Best."  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Crimm on December 11, 2006, 01:48:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
That being said...Animal Crossing Shirts spreading to other games with Miis would be awesome.  It would require a Mii upgrade but that could be included in the Animal Crossing game, and it would ensure that Animal Crossing Wii sold to everybody.  



Well if you look at the Mii homescreen a Mii in the front has a hat.  So maybe our AC clothes could be picked up by our Miis.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on December 12, 2006, 03:31:19 AM
If something like Animal Crossing accessories can't be stored in the same data files as the Miis themselves, they could at least have other games read the Animal Crossing save data and work from there.

I like games that read saves from other games, and there should be more of them.  Lost Kingdoms II reads Lost Kingdoms, and LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy reads LEGO Star Wars, and in both cases a lot is unlocked.  (And even though it's not much, Naruto: Clash Of Ninja 2 checks to see if there's a Naruto: Clash Of Ninja save, SSBM checks for a Pikmin save, MGS/MGS: Twin Snakes has some fun with other games saved, etc.)  As a reward for playing previous games or related games, I always wish there was more!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on December 12, 2006, 03:38:13 AM
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Mii Crossing. Mii's will be your avatar in the next Animal Crossing. All the shirts and accessories you collect will cross over to other games.


Am I the only one who sees this as a no-brainer? Why have the Miis to represent you when the game which is supposed to represent YOU more than anything (Animal Crossing) is still using little midget people  which look nothing like you?

I'll be surprised if the new AC DOESN'T use Miis to represent you.

And it actually would be possible for the Miis to have accessories. Nintendo just needs to update the Mii Channel to include them via firmware download (which is along the lines of what WC24 was supposed to promise anyway).

The Miis would still appear as normal on other consoles without the update. It could all work rather easily.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: JonLeung on December 12, 2006, 03:42:43 AM
If Nintendo can update the Mii Channel without the fear of how non-updated Wiis will see the Miis, then I think they should add more hair colours.  How am I going to create Jade (BG&E), Jessie (Pokémon), Rei (Evangelion), Ulala (Space Channel 5) if they don't have greenish, red, light blue, or purple hair?

And skin colours.  How am I going to make Dot (ReBoot) if I don't have green skin?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: vudu on December 12, 2006, 03:54:17 AM
Green skin may be pushing it; but I don't think red hair is too much to ask for.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2006, 04:16:21 AM
Speaking of Mii accessories and getting them fomr Mii Crossing, wouldn't it be kinda neat if you earn accessories/features by certain accomplishment from games(like trophies in SSBM) and be able to display them on your Mii. Sort of like a souvenier or something.

i.e. Unlocking a pair of overalls from SMG, or the Mario/Luigi nose so that you can create a Mario/Luigi Mii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 02, 2007, 10:58:19 PM
Ok, so GoNintendo has posted two new rumors.

1)Dragon Quest Swords will be a new pack in game for the Wii sometime this year.
2)Nintendo is about to make a huge announcement some time this month.  Possibly as soon as this week.

Pretty cheesy rumors I know.  Here are my thoughts on them.

The first rumor is very unlikely, unless Nintendo is out right buying the game from SquareEnix because otherwise they would make a killing on that game.  If this is true, actually expect the cost of the Wii to go UP for the Wii pack in instead of down.  And also expect this only to occur in Japan.  This pack in would not go over as well for Nintendo in America.

The second rumor seems to be a continuation story with the first rumor.  Perhaps to give it more validity but, lets say it is not.  What other announcements could be made?

1)Metroid Prime being released early and with online play (very pausible.)
2)Nintendo grabbing a new exclusive game series?
3)Virtual Console announcements either new system added or some really big games about to be released.
4)New Channels or New Wii Firmware upgrade coming soon.  
5) Something else entirely.

Of those possibilities all are probable.  Though, I would predict that 1 or 3 would be the most likely.  As they are easier for Nintendo to pull off successfully and would be pretty big announcements.

The Wii Firmware upgrade we know will be coming eventually.  Nintendo has stated they want to make load times quicker within the channels and startup. People are desiring a sub-channel system for virtual console games.  A better memory management with the SD Cards would be nice.  Finally, Nintendo could figure a work around for getting the virtual console controllers to work the Gamecube games.  There must be a way.  

Finally, just to tease something else.

It would be cool if the Mii channel got an actual upgrade.  Ears, more colors, hairstyles, and perhaps the ability to have two favorite colors to coordinate your wardrobe better.  

So, let the speculation begin as it always does with new rumors.

(by the way, my bet is on none of this happening.)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Artimus on January 03, 2007, 12:51:07 AM
Spak, the DQS thing isn't unreasonable. SEnix releases bundles frequently with their games. Final Fantasy III had one on the DS, for example.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 03, 2007, 01:59:50 AM
Artimus:  That is true...it isn't completely unreasonable.  But It was also only available in Japan.  Which makes it less of a big announcement.  Personally, I think it would be a great move for Nintendo, and would help cement the Wii as a success in Japan.  And Nintendo could be able to release the Wii with DQS in Japan for $250.00 (don't know the conversion rate) instead of the lower price they have now.



Personally, I would like one nice firmware upgrade for the Wii to come out sometime next year that handles most of the problems in one single upgrade.  That way Nintendo can allow you to download it online...or have it in game stores to pick up for free...like they do with their demo advertisement discs.

I would love the upgrade to include the following:

1)  Better Memory Management from SD Cards.  Including playing VC games from the SD Cards and game saves from the SD Cards.

2)  Mii upgrade with ears, more colors (for everything) Two favorite colors for clothing, and I would be happy with that alone...but more options for everything would be good.  Oh and more importantly 200 Mii saves...because I am already running out of room.

3)  Virtual Console Sub-channels...or the ability to make your own sub-channels.  Personally, I think you would only need them to go down one level, but once they do that sub-channel has 3 pages to it, just like the regular Channels have 3 pages worth.

4)  200 Wii Friend limit instead of 100.  

As for other announcement possibilities for the rumor.  IF and I stress a BIG IF.  If the rumors are true, I would place my money on a Metroid Prime 3 announcement.

I see the game coming out First Quarter 07 and support online play.  Reggie made a comment saying we would be playing a online game early in 07.  And to me the best Americanized game to bring online is Metroid.  Finally, the announcement could come with an invitation to play the game at the Nintendo Store or something special.  

By the way....I can't believe nobody remembers those stupid psycho letter in EGM.

 
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: vudu on January 03, 2007, 03:24:45 AM
DQS won't be the pack-in game, but it could very well be a bundled together with a limited edition Wii (much like the FF3 DSL bundle).  It would sell like hotcakes in Japan.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Kairon on January 03, 2007, 03:28:59 AM
DQS might actually make SENSE to be a pack-in game. That way, Square can move even more units of it, since people won't be given the chance to judge the game on its own merits as a DQ-branded swordfighting elements of Red Steel.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Louieturkey on January 03, 2007, 03:38:47 AM
DQS may happen, though only in Japan.  It definitely won't happen in the US (well, not definite but highly unlikely).  It just isn't a popular enough franchise in the US to warrant a pack-in.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: segagamer12 on January 03, 2007, 03:45:17 AM
so doesn anyone keep track of when a rumor comes true or is proven false? We need to go back and edit all the posts with updates when a rumor gets confirmed or denied officially. That would make the thread more usefull.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Requiem on January 03, 2007, 04:06:38 AM
Well, since SB isn't here, i'll tell you what he thinks about the second rumor (and of course, what I think).

Itunes Channel for Wii.....
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Ghisy on January 03, 2007, 04:46:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
Itunes Channel for Wii.....

YUCK!!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 03, 2007, 06:14:23 AM
I agree an itunes channel or any download MP3 service for the Wii would suck.

I would not want any part of it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Adrock on January 03, 2007, 07:21:29 AM
I'd say there's a very good chance the DQS bundle will happen in Japan. It helps both companies. Nintendo can't possibly pass up the opportunity to sell thousands of special addition Wiis which would ultimately lead to greater consumer and developer confidence.

Also, I remember the Psycho Letter of the Month in EGM. I subcribed for like 7 years. You need to something to read on the crapper. The magazine slowly declined in quality after Ed Semrad stepped down as Editor in Chief. Dan Hsu is just terrible. What the hell happened to the previews section?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2007, 07:43:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Ok, so GoNintendo has posted two new rumors.

1)Dragon Quest Swords will be a new pack in game for the Wii sometime this year.
2)Nintendo is about to make a huge announcement some time this month.  Possibly as soon as this week.
Quote

Originally posted by: Requiem
Well, since SB isn't here, i'll tell you what he thinks about the second rumor (and of course, what I think).

Itunes Channel for Wii.....
Don't forget that CES (Consumer Electronics Show) is this month(next week?) and it supposedly taking on more exhibitors since E3 has been castrated. Apple is rumored to be making a rather large annoucement about something new and Nintendo is rumored to be present at the show.  


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Originally posted by: segagamer12
so doesn anyone keep track of when a rumor comes true or is proven false? We need to go back and edit all the posts with updates when a rumor gets confirmed or denied officially. That would make the thread more usefull.

07/09/2006
-An Actual Pokemon RPG may be in the works (?)
-A WiiDS connectivity game is in the works (true)
-Lots of side-quest still being added to Zelda: Twilight Princess (true?)
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (true?)
-Many peripherals are in the works and a Mic may even be added to the Wiimote (true and false)

7/14/2006
If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii (false, it ended up on DS)

07/25/2006
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz) (false)

7/31/2006
Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs? (true, I think)

8/04/2006
Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany (this happened right?)

08/11/2006
- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3 (true)
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch (true)
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday (true, but it wasn't Wii exclusive)

8/15/2006
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo (makes sense)
- Wii could launch @ $199 US (it could have)
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (true?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release (didn't happen)

08/27/2006
Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii (I've heard no secret)
The last secret is a Head Mounted Display (false?)
Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD (?)
Disaster is to release in January 2007 (it could still happen...)

thats not all the rumors, but those are the ones I could mostly confirm or deny so far.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 03, 2007, 09:04:44 AM
Adrock:  EGM used to be the premier video game magazine.  I remember loving it for many many years.  Though I never got my T-Shirt for my letter.

The only Magazine that ever surpassed it was Next Generation, which was more of an insider magazine, but was awesome.

BlackNMild:  That run down seems correct.  Thanks.



Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: IceCold on January 03, 2007, 02:20:51 PM
I don't think it will be a pack-in. They'll probably have a "special edition" Wii, like vudu said, for DQS, but when was the last time a third party game was truly packed in with a Nintendo console? Has that ever happened?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 03, 2007, 02:33:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Requiem
Well, since SB isn't here, i'll tell you what he thinks about the second rumor (and of course, what I think).

Itunes Channel for Wii.....


Macworld San Francisco = Jan 11th.

Steve Jobs might just drop the MEGATOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!

Also, bundle, yes. Pack in, no.

Why pack in a product which won't have ANY problem selling on its own?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 12/11/2006)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 06, 2007, 07:23:49 AM
http://ruliweb.empas.com/ruliboard/r...&left=b&time=0

- From Software is developing a Kingsfieldesque 1st person action RPG on Wii

- Fire Emblem Wii has two parts... The first part is the original Fire Emblem Path of Radiance*..

- Nights Wii

- Square Enix and Disney agreed to put the next Kingdom Hearts on Nintendo Consoles

- Swords of Legendia will be the first game of the Swords of series.. a Spinoff series of the Tales of series..


*From GAF: IS did this with the SNES version of Fire Emblem.. i think it was called mystery of the emblem or something

also wasn't it memtioned somewhere else that a 1st person Kingsfield-esque game was coming to Wii?

I have never heard one rumor pop up more than the NiGHTS for Wii rumor. I hope Sega comments on it soon.

assuming the KH rumor is true, I hope they bring out a KH compilation first, as I haven't even played the first two games.

oh, and I hope the Fire Emblem rumor is true too, cause I was gonna buy FE:PoR the other day, but it turned out to not be on sale, and also not is stock. This will save me a purchase.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on January 06, 2007, 08:32:55 AM
I'd buy FE and KH both.  I might get the King's Field game if it turns out to be good.  I'm guessing it'll be more than a DQS clone.

Of course, the next KH game could be on DS as well.  That would make more sense anyways with Chain of Memories on the GBA.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 06, 2007, 08:43:45 AM
- From Software is developing a Kingsfieldesque 1st person action RPG on Wii

Very possible considering we already know From Software is making a Wii RPG...

Fire Emblem Wii has two parts... The first part is the original Fire Emblem Path of Radiance

Not the first time IS has done it, also very possible...

Nights Wii

I'm sick of seeing rumours on this, JUST COME TRUE ALREADY! >=O

Square Enix and Disney agreed to put the next Kingdom Hearts on Nintendo Consoles

I see this happening...DQIX coming to DS had less chance of coming true than this...

Swords of Legendia will be the first game of the Swords of series.. a Spinoff series of the Tales of series..

Namco whoring the Tales franchise some more?  Big surprise...

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: Requiem on January 06, 2007, 09:01:57 AM
Is it just me, or have rumors been getting lamer and lamer?

Who cares if any of this happens, except for maybe NiGHTS?

None of these game will use the Wiimote to some other level we have yet to see (except for maybe NiGHTS) and therefore, I can't be interested in these rumors.

That's not to say I wouldn't be interested if they were true announcements, but as rumors.........they suck.....  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on January 06, 2007, 09:10:55 AM
I'm interested in pretty much all of these for one reason or another!  I have a bizarre obsession with the Action/RPG genre, I want to play Path of Radiance but I won't get it if I get the game in the Wii version, Nights is bloody NIGHTS, having Kingdom Hearts would be another nail in the coffin for Sony, and I'm interested in seeing just how Swords of Legendia turns out...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: Crimm on January 06, 2007, 11:54:19 AM
Namco: We can try to be Enix too!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: Strell on January 06, 2007, 01:20:01 PM
Just give us NiGHTS: Swords of NiGHTS already!  

You know it's happening.  Deep in your heart....you know.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/06/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2007, 01:25:55 AM
Quote

so, this is all just a rumor and maybe a page trying to get some hits.. or whatever

according to gamefront the page wunderlampe.de was told that Square Enix will sell two of its franchises. wunderlampe did neither say which franchises will be sold nor who the buyers are.

now some speculation from gamefront. they say that it could be the Mana and Kingdom Hearts franchise, which will go to Disney, because they started their own developement studio named Fall Line in November 06. Now for the wildest thing (imo) in this speculation: Fall Line was created to produce for Wii, DS and GBA.

so, take it with a grain (or even truckload) of salt

sources: http://www.gamefront.de and http://www.wunderlampe.de/multiplatt...le-reihen.html[/q


Well we all know that Disney did just open up a studio to support Nintendo systems, so atleast the specuation seems plausible. As far as which franchises I think they would sell, well the speculation pretty much sums that up too. I still think SE would work closely with Disney on the KH games and just let Disney publish them.

But in all likelyhood that SE will sell off 2 franchises, I bet it would be something we haven't seen in any form for atleast 3 or more years  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 09, 2007, 02:08:49 AM
I could see Kingdom of Hearts being sold to Disney.  Squares overall presence in that game character wise is pales to Disney plus it would just be them buying the controlling interest in the game.  I'm sure Square would allow them to license there characters to be including in the game just for that game.  Also didn't Square do a Mickey game before?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on January 11, 2007, 05:29:11 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
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But in all likelyhood that SE will sell off 2 franchises, I bet it would be something we haven't seen in any form for atleast 3 or more years


I'm hoping they sell the Ogre Battle series to Nintendo.  We need another one of those games.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2007, 03:09:38 PM
Nintendo to release a Wiimote ver. 2.0?
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According to some obscure rumor column from Japan-based Game Lab, a newly enhanced Wiimote is in the works. The rumor, via Game Front*, suggest Wiimote 2.0 will included "better grip" and rechargeable batteries out of the box, and that the revised controller will hit Japan sometime this summer.


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Did Wii remote maintenance revise planned? 23.01.07 - Nintendo is to work allegedly on a better Wii remote maintenance, which is delivered at the latest in the summer in Japan. The Japanese Game Labo in its rumor column maintains. The revised remote maintenance is to be more easily, possess a better pavement grip and rechargeable its - Nintendo did not confirm the assumptions of the Game Labo.


Personlly I'm happy with my rechargable battery setup, cause i can just swap the batteries out and keep playing. If I have to somehow dock the controller to let it recharge, thats not gonna work for me. And unless it comes with a 20 foot charging cable that plugs into the Wiimote, a plug-in adapter is gonna be kinda pointless too. I'll stick with the current battery situation, but some built-in rubberized grips might be a welcome addition, but that might cut into their accessory sales.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: bustin98 on January 24, 2007, 11:23:29 PM
I think it would be difficult to play with a charging cord attached. The way the wiimote is balanced would be off. I am satisfied with recharging my batteries whenever they need it. Though the charging unit shown at the CES looks like a cool idea.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on January 25, 2007, 12:05:33 AM
I'm guessing you wouldn't play it while it's charging.  It's probably designed so that you dock it in the charger when not playing it.  So the battery would last 20-30 hours.  You'd never really have to worry about the battery dieing unless you play for more than 20 hours straight (which some do) or unless you forget to dock the wiimote when done playing.  Sounds like it could work though I do like my current setup as well.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 25, 2007, 01:56:23 AM
Releasing a revision to the controller?  How very Playstation.

Considering the surprising amount of people throwing controllers through their TVs I think rubber grips would be a good idea and I wanted a rechargable remote from day one.  It doesn't make certain games unplayable or anything so it seems like a decent change.  Plus unlike a portable system revision a controller replacement isn't as costly and odds are few people have four controllers yet anyway.  One could always use their old remotes for multiplayer and use a new remote as their "player one controller".
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 25, 2007, 02:03:06 AM
Not to surprising.  They should just build it so that it has the same feel as the silicon gloves.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Deguello on January 25, 2007, 02:15:26 AM
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Releasing a revision to the controller? How very Playstation.


How very Nintendo
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 25, 2007, 02:51:24 AM
Don't forget the best NES game Pad the Max Controller.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 25, 2007, 03:15:41 AM
"How very Nintendo"

You count the Wavebird as a revision?  Wasn't it revealed and annouced before the Cube even launched?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 25, 2007, 03:17:06 AM
Yeah, Wavebird was announced before the cube's launch.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2007, 03:15:01 AM
New Colors for Wii Q4 2007?
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In a rather shocking revelation this weekend, an anonymous Nintendo rep revealed to GameDrift that a plan is running through the pipeline to colorize the, as of now, rather bland coloration of its hit console, Wii. The rep did not reveal detailed specifics, however did remark that a red and black console have been confirmed.
Not as if we didn't see this coming, but new colors for Christmas sounds like a good way to keep sales going. I just wish they had a nice dark 'royal' blue Wii in the planning.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 29, 2007, 03:26:10 AM
Make 2 new Factories.  1 for each color.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: JonLeung on January 29, 2007, 03:31:43 AM
I know I mentioned this when we were discussing colours for something else a long while back (it was either GBA SPs, DSes, or DS Lites, most likely), but the Wii needs these colours:

-Mushroom Red
-Varia Orange
-Triforce Gold
-Kokiri Green
-Falcon Blue
-Peach Pink

As they don't explicitly refer to Nintendo characters (well, Peach does, but the fruit is also pink-ish) it's a good way to ease non-gamers into recognition of gaming icons.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: vudu on January 29, 2007, 03:49:32 AM
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As they don't explicitly refer to Nintendo characters
I can't say I've ever heard of a Varia outside of Metroid.  Same goes for a Triforce and a Kokiri.  And say what you will about blue, but Falcon obviously directly refers to Captain Falcon.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: JonLeung on January 29, 2007, 03:59:14 AM
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Originally posted by: vudu
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As they don't explicitly refer to Nintendo characters
I can't say I've ever heard of a Varia outside of Metroid.  Same goes for a Triforce and a Kokiri.


The Triforce and Kokiri are in Metroid?  o_0

Okay, you got me.  My reasoning wasn't that great.  I just think "Mushroom Red" and "Kokiri Green" sound cooler than "Mario Red" and "Link Green".

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Ghisy on January 29, 2007, 04:19:33 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
-Triforce Gold

I may buy a Golden Wii, it would look oh so awesome!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/09/2007)
Post by: Kairon on January 29, 2007, 05:41:36 AM
I'd seriously ponder doing that... oh god or a Famicom Wii!

And no, decals just don't cut it for me.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
You know you want it


If Nintendo were to ever release a special edition of this, even with a red slot instead of blue, I will have to buy another Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: MorningStar on January 29, 2007, 05:29:50 PM
I'm all for nostalgia, but an I the only one that thinks that the NES is ugly?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 29, 2007, 05:37:11 PM
Yes.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on January 29, 2007, 05:38:41 PM
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Originally posted by: MorningStar
I'm all for nostalgia, but an I the only one that thinks that the NES is ugly?


WHAT?!?!?! SACRILEGE!!!! GET 'IM!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: Deguello on January 30, 2007, 12:56:42 AM
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You count the Wavebird as a revision? Wasn't it revealed and annouced before the Cube even launched?


Well that's merely correct, but what's your point?  They released a revision of a controller.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: zakkiel on January 30, 2007, 01:10:11 AM
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Yes.
No.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on January 30, 2007, 02:22:35 AM
"Well that's merely correct, but what's your point? They released a revision of a controller."

There's a big difference.  By annoucing the Wavebird prior to the Cube's release the userbase knew about it beforehand which gave them flexibility when they bought their console.  If they were interested in a wireless controller they knew not to immediately buy four wired Cube controllers.  They knew when the new controller was coming out and thus could wait for it.

What I'm talking about is more like the Xbox controller revision.  The userbase buys their console under the assumption that there is one standard controller only to later discover that had they waited they could have got a different one.  Thus there's the possibility of someone feeling ripped off because they just bought four of the old controllers.  With the Cube anyone who did five seconds of research didn't accidently buy four wired controllers.

Plus technically I wouldn't consider something that was planned from day one to be a revision.  Revision suggests that they go back to drawing board and rethink things.  The Wavebird was more of an alternate controller than a revision.  It wasn't standard issue.  It was like an arcade joystick.

It's not a big deal anyway because both Wii controllers will work with the same games.  It's not like when Sony added two analog sticks to their Playstation controller.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 30, 2007, 03:45:42 AM
You know  Ian's right when he says that in the end it will all come out in the wash.  But I think the revisions will just be something really minor in the overall scheme of things.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 30, 2007, 06:42:00 AM
The buttons will have a nicer click to them.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2007, 04:15:13 PM
Wired blog - Game|Life says that is has been hearing rumors of "a bunch of" games being announced by Konami for the Wii.
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Originally posted by: Chris Kohler

Should we prepare for the Konami flood on Wii? The word on the street, the latest rumor, is that the publisher will announce "a bunch of" games for Nintendo's console this week.


Does Konami have a share holders meeting next week?
Either way, if they were to announce "a bunch of" games next week, what would you guys expect?
Castlevania?
Metal Gear Solid?
Contra?
Silent Hill?
DDR?
Winning Eleven?
another new IP? (we did get Elebits afterall)

edit: added more Konami IP's
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 30, 2007, 04:18:53 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Wired blog - Game|Life says that is has been hearing rumors of "a bunch of" games being announced by Konami for the Wii.
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Originally posted by: Chris Kohler

Should we prepare for the Konami flood on Wii? The word on the street, the latest rumor, is that the publisher will announce "a bunch of" games for Nintendo's console this week.


Does Konami have a share holders meeting next week?
Either way, if they were to announce "a bunch of" games next week, what would you guys expect?
Castlevania?
Metal Gear Solid?
another new IP? (we did get Elebits afterall)


It's going to be...THE COMPILATION OF ELEBITS!

First we get Elebits 2!

Then we get Elebits breeder!

Then we get the Elebits platformer featuring the Elebits as playable characters!

And finally we get Elebits: DDR edition!

Oh and don't forget the announcement of an Elebit joining the SSB Brawl lineup!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: A Straight Up Trippin' Balls Forum User on January 30, 2007, 05:25:46 PM
With Konami's outstanding reputation for pushing the limits of gameplay mechanics and emphasizing quality over prof...

ha. ha. ha. I'll guess Disney Sports, because they have no shame.

Maybe Nintendo can find a small developer to blow 2 years on a MGS2 port.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Mario on January 30, 2007, 06:43:43 PM
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
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Yes.
No.

Indeed.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: wandering on January 30, 2007, 07:35:31 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
New Colors for Wii Q4 2007?
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In a rather shocking revelation this weekend, an anonymous Nintendo rep revealed to GameDrift that a plan is running through the pipeline to colorize the, as of now, rather bland coloration of its hit console, Wii. The rep did not reveal detailed specifics, however did remark that a red and black console have been confirmed.
Not as if we didn't see this coming, but new colors for Christmas sounds like a good way to keep sales going. I just wish they had a nice dark 'royal' blue Wii in the planning.

I want royal purple.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 30, 2007, 08:09:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
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Yes.
No.

Indeed.

*nods head*
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Strell on January 30, 2007, 09:42:13 PM
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Originally posted by: wandering

I want royal purple.


F*ck that.  I want Royal Rainbow.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 31, 2007, 01:07:57 AM
I think a DDR for the Wii is almost a given once they figure out how to make a Dancepad peripheral that will plug into the Wiimote and how to doa controller mode with just the Wiimote.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: IceCold on January 31, 2007, 03:07:16 AM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
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Originally posted by: Mario
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
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Yes.
No.

Indeed.

*nods head*
Affirmative.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on January 31, 2007, 03:22:34 AM
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Originally posted by: pap64
It's going to be...THE COMPILATION OF ELEBITS!

First we get Elebits 2!

Then we get Elebits breeder!

Then we get the Elebits platformer featuring the Elebits as playable characters!

And finally we get Elebits: DDR edition!

Oh and don't forget the announcement of an Elebit joining the SSB Brawl lineup!


*VOMIT*

I swear to god, I WILL put that box of fire ants in the mail to Konami if they do that with the return address "From: Nintendo fans".
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: JonLeung on January 31, 2007, 03:24:04 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

Does Konami have a share holders meeting next week?
Either way, if they were to announce "a bunch of" games next week, what would you guys expect?
Castlevania?
Metal Gear Solid?
Contra?
Silent Hill?
DDR?
Winning Eleven?
another new IP? (we did get Elebits afterall)


They'll announce a new Goemon game!  0_0

Either that or some more Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters booster sets, or Yu-Gi-Oh GX Does Anyone Actually Care 2008 for the GBA and/or DS.  >_<
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 31, 2007, 03:33:31 AM
Or a Wii sequel to Konami Krazy racers...Or Mario DDR 2.

But all points to...ELEBITS 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 AND MORE!!!!!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Adrock on January 31, 2007, 04:45:30 AM
It's probably Castlevania related. The most current EGM on news stands says something about an exclusive announcement in their next issue. I recall them saying something along the lines of "fans of Symphony should stay tuned" and it didn't seem to allude to SotN on Xbox Live. The next EGM should be hitting newsstands within in the next week or so. Some subscription holders might even get them in the next day or so.

My next guess would be something Metal Gear related, though Castlevania still seems more likely. The 3D iterations of the series kind of got lost in the shuffle on PS2 and to a lesser degree Xbox. I think it could flourish on Wii considering the console and Nintendo consoles for the past 2 generations have been so light on action/adventure games of that type. Castlevania is bound to perform better without the likes of Devil May Cry or God of War stealing the spotlight (which were just better games than Lament and Curse).

I'm hoping for a 2D Castlevania. It wouldn't have to use the Wii remote. I'd be happy enough to see a new console Castlevania.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on January 31, 2007, 06:41:48 AM
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Originally posted by: JonLeung
They'll announce a new Goemon game!  0_0

And then they won't localize it.  And I'll cry. D:

Ganbare Goemon: Toukai Douchuu Ooedo Tengurigaeshi no Maki = best DS game yet
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Ceric on January 31, 2007, 06:57:08 AM
I wouldn't mind a sequal on the Wii to Dungeon Dice Monsters.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on January 31, 2007, 07:04:13 AM
Come on Rush'n Attack sequel!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Kairon on January 31, 2007, 07:18:40 AM
DDR!
D-D-R!
(stadium crown chanting) DEE DEE ARRR!
(stadium crown chanting) DEE DEE ARRR!
(stadium crown chanting) DEE DEE ARRR!
(stadium crown chanting) DEE DEE ARRR!
(stadium crown chanting) DEE DEE ARRR!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2007, 03:12:54 AM
Original rumor
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Wired blog - Game|Life says that is has been hearing rumors of "a bunch of" games being announced by Konami for the Wii.
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Originally posted by: Chris Kohler

Should we prepare for the Konami flood on Wii? The word on the street, the latest rumor, is that the publisher will announce "a bunch of" games for Nintendo's console this week.



And the Konami statement from today
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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Major Konami Announcements on Monday!

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02. 2.07
Major Konami Announcements on Monday!

Check back to this space on Monday for several major announcements on new games from Konami! From new franchises to returning favorites, you won't want to miss the earth-shaking news. You heard it here first!

Hopefully this rumor comes true, it could be big news for Nintendo to get Konami a cabin at Camp Nintendo.
 
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 03, 2007, 12:26:16 PM
New Rumor:

Gamefly has listed that a new Guilty Gears game is headed for the Wii.  This is great news since the Gamecube lacked fighting games and fighting games in general seem to slowing down.  Specially 2D games.

Originally found this story at GoNintendo.com and apparently Gamefly has been pretty accurate about there game posts for the Wii coming true.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*(updated 01/31/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 03, 2007, 12:35:05 PM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
New Rumor:

Gamefly has listed that a new Guilty Gears game is headed for the Wii.  This is great news since the Gamecube lacked fighting games and fighting games in general seem to slowing down.  Specially 2D games.

Originally found this story at GoNintendo.com and apparently Gamefly has been pretty accurate about there game posts for the Wii coming true.
I was gonna post this same thing, but I also heard that Game-Crazy originally had this title listed for Wii way back in Oct. '06 and Aksys had formally denied any such rumor in their forums saying "any new game announcements will be listed on our website."
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: denjet78 on February 03, 2007, 02:13:27 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I was gonna post this same thing, but I also heard that Game-Crazy originally had this title listed for Wii way back in Oct. '06 and Aksys had formally denied any such rumor in their forums saying "any new game announcements will be listed on our website."


That doesn't sounds like a denial to me. It sounds more like a "no comment".

...

What's Guity Gears anyway? *awaits onslaught of angry fans*
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: IceCold on February 03, 2007, 02:20:17 PM
Guilty Gear? You haven't heard of it? It's a 2D fighting game
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 03, 2007, 02:29:39 PM
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Originally posted by: denjet78What's Guity Gears anyway? *awaits onslaught of angry fans*


This is what Guilty gears is.

Really fun series!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: denjet78 on February 03, 2007, 02:40:23 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
Guilty Gear? You haven't heard of it? It's a 2D fighting game


I'm not a big fighting game fan outside of Smash Bros. I have seen the video of Mortal Kombat Wii though and I have to admit that I'm more than slightly intrigued by the Wiimote controls. I won't be buying the game myself but if someone I know gets it I'd be more than willing to give it a shot.

Me actually interested in a fighting game? The Wii really is magical.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Luigi Dude on February 03, 2007, 02:53:30 PM
Damn I hope this turns out to be true.  I loved playing the older ones and it'd be great to finally be able to buy one.

Actually this shouldn't come as any real surprise though since the Wii is pretty much going to be the home for 2d fighters.  2d fighters only sell to a small niche fanbase these days, and since the Xbox 360 and PS3 cost way to much to develope for, the Wii is the only system companies can make money off 2d fighters with.

Plus Sony and Microsoft probobly wont even allow 2d fighters on their systems since both companies are obsessed with showing off their realistic HD graphics.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Hocotate on February 03, 2007, 05:38:12 PM
I can die happy if the Wii becomes the home of 2d fighters. If the Wii gets 2d fighters in addition to more DDR love it will go down as my all time favorite console of all time.... Almost sounds too good to be true.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 03, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
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Originally posted by: Hocotate
I can die happy if the Wii becomes the home of 2d fighters. If the Wii gets 2d fighters in addition to more DDR love it will go down as my all time favorite console of all time.... Almost sounds too good to be true.


Then prepare to die because the Wii is the default console for all 2D fighters next gen. It's the only console which doesn't require that games run in 720p (minimum) and it leads the Japanese next-gen console market by 60% already. Most of the 2D-heavy hitters (if not all) are Japanese devs, like SNK who already brought Metal Slug Anthology over.

By rule of thumb, if your console is the "default" for any genre of game, it's a good thing. The PS2 was the default for 2D games last gen, even though Sony hated 2D games.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Luigi Dude on February 03, 2007, 08:46:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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By rule of thumb, if your console is the "default" for any genre of game, it's a good thing. The PS2 was the default for 2D games last gen, even though Sony hated 2D games.


This is one of the reasons why I've very happy Nintendo will be getting all the 2d games this gen, we might start to see more progress in 2d games and maybe even a revival of some kind.  

Under Sony's anti 2d policy, only the well known 2d series were allowed to be released in America, and even then companies had to jump through hopes just to get there games approved.  This is one of the reasons 2d gaming died on home consoles because companies weren't going to spend alot of money on making 2d games only to have Sony refuse to allow it's release.

But now with Nintendo, companies have nothing to worry about.  They're free to make as many 2d games as they'd like on the system and can actually release all of their games in North America.  And with them being able to release any game in North America, more companies might start spending the money again on going back into the 2d market since their games have a much better chance of selling now.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 03, 2007, 10:47:43 PM
I'm curious to see what comes of it as well.

Nintendo never had the reputation of the "safe haven" until now. I wonder how the title will fit them...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 04, 2007, 01:26:01 AM
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Plus Sony and Microsoft probobly wont even allow 2d fighters on their systems since both companies are obsessed with showing off their realistic HD graphics.


Street Fighter Hyper Fighting 2 on Xbox Live Arcade wants to have a word with you :P. If 2D fighters come out on those systems it will probably be on xbox live arcade or the playstation store.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Ceric on February 04, 2007, 01:29:55 AM
Yep.  That is true if 2D fighter does come out on those systems it does make sense to sell them as Marketplace games.  Even on the Wii that makes some sense.  Personally it would have to be a pretty expansive 2D fighter for me to want to plop down full price for it in todays day and age.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Ghisy on February 04, 2007, 02:34:38 AM
I wouldn't say no to a Street Fighter Collection on the Wii.
Like the ones on PSOne but with every SF games since SF II.
That would rock!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: jasonditz on February 04, 2007, 02:55:13 AM
indeed, if Metal Slug can offer a $40 anthology disk why not Street Fighter 2?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2007, 03:06:09 AM
I've got SF2 15th anniversary for the PS2...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 04, 2007, 07:24:23 AM
I welcome any and all 2D games, personally.

Since I have Gamefly, I'm more than willing to give every game that comes out a fair shake, 2D or otherwise.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on February 04, 2007, 08:15:43 AM
I personally don't care if the game is in 2D, 3D or even 4D. If the game is fun, addictive and engaging its good enough for me.

Hence why I am playing LTTP.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on February 04, 2007, 10:11:58 AM
Followup to the Konami rumor:

Konami's 07 lineup

A 3D shooter called "Time Ace" and a pet sim called "GoPets" with online support so you can go online and meet other pet owners, both on the DS.

I guess this is all we're getting for the Wii for now, but in fairness, there wasn't all that much announced in general so four titles ain't bad.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: IceCold on February 13, 2007, 10:52:09 AM
It isn't official, and I didn't want to make a whole new thread on it, but EA is thinking about Fight Night on the Wii.. didn't Omen already comment on this?

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GM: The Nintendo Wii just came out. Are you planning on doing a version for that system with its revolutionary controller system?

MB: We’re talking about it right now. We’re contemplating and we definitely feel there are some exciting things we can do with the Fight Night franchise and the Wii. When you play Wii Boxing it is a very simple experience and I think that is what they designed it to be just to let you know that you can throw punches. With Fight Night we have an amazing simulation of Boxing and so we need to take those Wii controls and tailor it to what the Fight Night consumer might want to experience. We are looking at it right now and I am sure you will something some time in the future on the Wii.

GM: That’s going to end up being a helluva workout.

MB: (laughing) Absolutely. That’s good. We want people to get a bit of workout. If you like playing sports games and are excited by sports it is a good way to give you the best of both worlds.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 02/03/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 10, 2007, 10:17:16 AM
Did we miss this? Was is posted somewhere else on the site?

EA developing a rhythm based dancing game for Wii
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Random Nintendo has learned that Electronic Arts is developing an exclusive rhythm game for the Wii. While information is still scare, we do know that the game will be an entirely new property.

The currently untitled Wii project is under development at EA's Montreal studio. The game, which reportedly has a 1970s vibe, will have players control dancers by moving both the Wii Remote and Nunchuk. While it may sound similar to Konami's Dance Dance Revolution: Hottest Mix, one of the main differences appears to be the lack of a dance pad for EA's game.


This game was also just referenced in latest 1up Yours podcast @ about 30minutes in.
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Shane (1up/EGM) says in passing "well they already announced the microphone for the EA dancing game".


thanx GP  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/10/2007)
Post by: The Omen on March 10, 2007, 02:41:46 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
It isn't official, and I didn't want to make a whole new thread on it, but EA is thinking about Fight Night on the Wii.. didn't Omen already comment on this?

Quote

GM: The Nintendo Wii just came out. Are you planning on doing a version for that system with its revolutionary controller system?

MB: We’re talking about it right now. We’re contemplating and we definitely feel there are some exciting things we can do with the Fight Night franchise and the Wii. When you play Wii Boxing it is a very simple experience and I think that is what they designed it to be just to let you know that you can throw punches. With Fight Night we have an amazing simulation of Boxing and so we need to take those Wii controls and tailor it to what the Fight Night consumer might want to experience. We are looking at it right now and I am sure you will something some time in the future on the Wii.

GM: That’s going to end up being a helluva workout.

MB: (laughing) Absolutely. That’s good. We want people to get a bit of workout. If you like playing sports games and are excited by sports it is a good way to give you the best of both worlds.



Yes sir I did.  They're trying for 1:1 motion...and that was months ago.  I think there are going to be 6 punches for each side, or something like that.  Unless they do end up with true 1:1.  The real impressive thing was that the wiimote was able to distinguish between a right cross punch and a right jab every single time.  So even early on there were no motions that were missed or not read.

But yeah, don't let them fool you.  The full slate of EA sports will be hitting the Wii.  The best title, believe it or not, might be Nascar, which is supposedly going to be online and work with the headset.  Your pit or whatever will be helping you out during the race through the headset.  There may also be two player co-op, online, or splitscreen through the career mode.

For the record, I don't work for EA or obviously I would be breaking NDAs.. And of course, it's so early on everything could change.  *(that's my disclaimer)*

 
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/10/2007)
Post by: IceCold on March 10, 2007, 04:13:49 PM
Well, I care about hockey the most when it comes to sports, and no other developer has mentioned an NHL Wii game - is EA thinking about it?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/10/2007)
Post by: The Omen on March 11, 2007, 12:20:19 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Well, I care about hockey the most when it comes to sports, and no other developer has mentioned an NHL Wii game - is EA thinking about it?


Yep.  But I didn't see it our hear about what types of controls they're looking for.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/10/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 13, 2007, 02:56:17 PM
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption delayed?
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US online retailer Best Buy has sent out an email notifying customers who have pre-ordered Metroid Prime 3: Corruption for Wii that the release date has changed from summer '07 to New. Year's. Eve.
A six month delay? to a game already delayed by 6+ months (wasn't it originally scheduled for Launch)?

What could they be doing? adding multiplayer online like Reggie hinted to awhile back?  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/13/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 13, 2007, 03:36:19 PM
Come on...An online retailer release detail is hardly justifiable as a rumour... =/
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/13/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 13, 2007, 04:01:38 PM
I used it as a reason to push the online MP3 rumor thats been going around and sort-of hinted at by Reggie.

Besides if they are sending out e-mails about a delay to the customers(& months before the targeted release period), they must know something that we don't.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/13/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 13, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
I'm with Bill on this one.

Its been mentioned a while back that sometimes when the game companies don't provide the stores a firm release date they will often make one up and use it as a place holder date till the real one is announced.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons Best Buy is sending the e-mails and changing dates is because Nintendo has been so quiet about it that they figured that the game wouldn't be released this year and is letting everyone know to expect a sudden change in dates.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/13/2007)
Post by: A Straight Up Trippin' Balls Forum User on March 13, 2007, 04:27:58 PM
Well I better not get my hopes up. I'll just assume it's being ported to the next next-gen Starcube until I hear otherwise. ;*(
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/13/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2007, 10:47:50 AM
Ok, sorry for the last non-rumor rumor, but here is an actual rumor, and one that will hopefully come true. If this happens, and happens soon, it could be the start of some interesting possibilities for the Wii.

The rumor comes from the Japanese gamer mag - GameLabo
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The meat of the rumour, which has been doing the rounds on several US and European websites over the weekend, suggests that a Nintendo meeting took place recently to discuss the subject of an external hard drive for Wii.

While the story might sound a bit ridiculous on the face of it, fact is that many Wii gamers have already hit their limit on the Flash memory that comes with the console - especially if you've been downloading as many VC games as you can get your hands on.

Source - Computer&Videogames.com

This would be great for Animal Crossing, a Pokemon MMO, NeoGeo & Saturn VC games , and whatever other uses 3rd parties could think up for a HDD. I know FFXI would probably be ported right away.

Remember all those rumors waaaay back when about the stand being a battery pack for the Wii? Well what if this rumored external HDD comes in the form of a slightly modified Wii stand, one that possibly has blue LEDs(like the disc slot) that glow when being accessed, and just has a little USB cord that plugs right into the back of the Wii.  I think if they use some of those iPod mini HDDs and just insert it into the stand they could keep the Wii looking like it already does with its minimalist design and extremely small footprint.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 18, 2007, 10:54:17 AM
Not surprising, since Nintendo has been touting that you could plug in some USB devices to store data. They just needed the firmware upgrade to do it.

Would be cool if it came true, though. I hope they also allow for normal hard drives to be used. Would suck if you had to shell out 100 bucks just to buy a hard drive for the Wii when you had one that could've been used.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 18, 2007, 10:59:10 AM
I too am hoping that they allow the use of 3rd party USB devices.

Anything less than that would suck, especially after they said it would be able to do so a while back.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 18, 2007, 11:02:18 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I too am hoping that they allow the use of 3rd party USB devices.

Anything less than that would suck, especially after they said it would be able to do so a while back.


If anything, the official Wii hard drive should be the CHEAP alternative. I mean, we don't want the "Nintendo Wifi dongle" fiasco to happen again.

But let's be realistic, if the hard drive comes true, it will be overpriced and be very small capacity wise (like 20 GB).
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 18, 2007, 11:05:50 AM
I expect it to sell at a premium, just like the Wii-branded SD cards.

External USB drives are hella cheap which is why I hope they allow you to use them.

If they allowed the use of 3rd party SD cards, I don't see why they'd disallow 3rd party USB drives.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 18, 2007, 01:44:20 PM
Even if they release their own HDD and do not support 3rd party drives, I'm sure someone will figure out a way to make a 3rd party drive appear as the official Nintendo one, like they did for the Xbox 360. Of course, this is assuming they add HDD support to begin with. If they do, and release their own HDD, it better look awesome with the system, like the 360's HD DVD drive.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 18, 2007, 01:53:35 PM
Agreed.

I'd consider springing for a branded HDD if it looked awesome and was easy to port around, but I'd probably opt for an iPod I could wear around my neck.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2007, 02:46:57 PM
Well what if the Nintendo branded HDD came preloaded with a game, like Animal/Mii Crossing or some other Nintendo developed HDD focused game?
What if the HDD was like I mentioned before(in the stand)?

Would either of those convince you to pay premium prices?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Strell on March 18, 2007, 11:12:17 PM
SIXTY FOAR DISK DU-RIEEEEEEVE MEGATONS
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Pittbboi on March 18, 2007, 11:23:03 PM
Welp, that didn't last too long...

Nintendo Rep Denies Hard Drive Rumor

It wouldn't be the first time a rep (for NOE, of all places) didn't know what they were talking about, but at the same time...this person seems pretty sure that a Wii Hard Drive is pretty out of the question.

Still, I'm surprised at how quickly and straightforward the official response to this rumor came. It makes me wonder why they won't just hurry up and confirm/deny all the rumors regarding friend codes...hmmmm...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 18, 2007, 11:36:54 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Well what if the Nintendo branded HDD came preloaded with a game, like Animal/Mii Crossing or some other Nintendo developed HDD focused game?
What if the HDD was like I mentioned before(in the stand)?

Would either of those convince you to pay premium prices?


If Animal Crossing came on the drive, probably, but that doesn't seem likely.

The convenience of carrying my HDD around my neck is too good to pass up, really, especially when I can then easily use it to move save files around.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Rhoq on March 18, 2007, 11:57:28 PM
I know people have been able to use the Wii's USB ports as a power source (for charging iPods and battery charge stations) but has anyone tried to connect a USB flash drive or external HDD?  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2007, 12:00:00 AM
Currently, it doesn't do anything if you do so (which is a shame).
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Rhoq on March 19, 2007, 12:15:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Currently, it doesn't do anything if you do so (which is a shame).


Hopefully a software update will be released in the near future to rectify this.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Ceric on March 19, 2007, 02:45:23 AM
I think the probably Nintendo, in their mind, would run into is that the Read time of a Harddrive is slower then the flash and you don't want to be hitting flash has a temporary drive because it only has x amounts of writes.  Which for the lifetime of the Wii how it is currently being used should be fine but if you using for a page file consistently I could see that halfing the projected lifetime relatively easily.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 19, 2007, 03:04:58 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Welp, that didn't last too long...

Nintendo Rep Denies Hard Drive Rumor

It wouldn't be the first time a rep (for NOE, of all places) didn't know what they were talking about, but at the same time...this person seems pretty sure that a Wii Hard Drive is pretty out of the question.

Still, I'm surprised at how quickly and straightforward the official response to this rumor came. It makes me wonder why they won't just hurry up and confirm/deny all the rumors regarding friend codes...hmmmm...


I say we should wait and see. Remember that Nintendo has denied stuff in the past only to announce it a few months later.

Nintendo has already said that they plan on allowing use of external storage devices, so them (or a third party) making an external HD for the Wii seems like an obvious choice.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Ghisy on March 19, 2007, 03:21:52 AM
I'd rather see Nintendo releasing a flash memory HDD.
Much more reliable and lighter than an actual USB HDD.
An 8 gig flash HDD would rock!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2007, 03:25:23 AM
Problem is that flash has a limited number of times you can write to it, and a HDD's lifetime can possibly reach or exceed that number, hence why they'd want an actual HDD with heads and sectors.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on March 19, 2007, 03:33:44 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Problem is that flash has a limited number of times you can write to it


What?

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2007, 03:39:15 AM
Flash Memory

Another limitation is that flash memory has a finite number of erase-write cycles (most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand 1 million programming cycles). This effect is partially offset by some chip firmware or file system drivers by counting the writes and dynamically remapping the blocks in order to spread the write operations between the sectors. This technique is called wear levelling. Another mechanism is to perform write verification and remapping to spare sectors in case of write failure, which is named bad block management (BBM).

It sounds like it would be no big deal, but the thing is, a HDD sees thousands of writes and changes every day. Reaching a million is easily possible if you're going to be continuously updating the content on a HDD, like what would happen in a real-time Animal Crossing.

Currently, AC only saves games when a player commands it to. The issue there is that AC can never have a real consistent world where the power going out won't undo all the changes and call down the wrath of Resetti. If every time the player dug a hole, caught a bug, etc., the game saved to the flash, then you can see why the flash would have a chance to be worn out.

A HDD opens a lot of doors, in terms of not only gaming but also downloadable content and makes sense that Nintendo would have a Wii-branded one for "casual" gamers who just don't know any better.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: vudu on March 19, 2007, 04:25:11 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
If every time the player dug a hole, caught a bug, etc., the game saved to the flash, then you can see why the flash would have a chance to be worn out.
So a game like Fire Emblem--which saves after every move--has the potential to die after you play it about 167 times (assuming the cartridge is good for 1,000,000 saves, there are approximately 200 saves per level and approximately 30 levels per game)?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2007, 04:33:53 AM
I suppose so, but first of all, FE isn't the only game which will be saving information to the flash card and second, I don't mean standard games where saves happen infrequently. I mean games where changes to the stored data are being made constantly, like every second.

I admit, I can't provide an example beyond a real-time saving Animal Crossing, but that would be the best example, where you no longer need to worry about the game stopping to save every time someone enters or exits your town or about losing all your data if the power goes out. Live saving is the only way to do that and such frequent saving could reach the limit on your flash storage, especially if your town is frequently visited by others.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Ceric on March 19, 2007, 04:35:05 AM
Actually I think that if you use the flash like they are using it know it should last the life of the product.  Now if you use the Flash as a temporary cache for something like say streaming video that requires a lot of rapid writes and you do this regularly the lifetime could be easily halfed.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2007, 05:19:09 AM
I agree that it probably won't be an issue with any games we have now.

However, that doesn't take future games into account and that flash memory is more expensive than HDD storage.

The read times on USB 2.0 (which the Wii has) are pretty damn fast. You could load things in and out very quickly without much issue.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: vudu on March 19, 2007, 05:32:32 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
I suppose so, but first of all, FE isn't the only game which will be saving information to the flash card and second, I don't mean standard games where saves happen infrequently. I mean games where changes to the stored data are being made constantly, like every second.
If you play FE fast enough (and turn off battle animations) the game will save every second.  It auto saves after every turn you (or the CPU) take.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 19, 2007, 05:37:24 AM
In that case, it could happen...if you played it that many times, but I don't think it's a huge concern.

Like I said, the pertinent reasons for HDD over flash are cost and space. The erase limitation does exist, but I don't think it could be an issue unless Nintendo does release an AC with real-time saving.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: ryancoke on March 19, 2007, 06:41:39 AM
I hope nintendo at least gives us the option of having a USB hard drive in the future to replace the internal flash mem.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 22, 2007, 02:29:35 AM
EA music game, confirmed and revealed!

NOTE: Go Nintendo posted the link to the original site, but it wasn't in English, so I posted this instead.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2007, 03:12:18 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: segagamer12
so doesn anyone keep track of when a rumor comes true or is proven false? We need to go back and edit all the posts with updates when a rumor gets confirmed or denied officially. That would make the thread more usefull.
I thought I would waste some more time and update this list.
07/09/2006
-An Actual Pokemon RPG may be in the works (?)
-A WiiDS connectivity game is in the works (true)
-Lots of side-quest still being added to Zelda: Twilight Princess (true)
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (false)
-Many peripherals are in the works and a Mic may even be added to the Wiimote (true and false)

7/14/2006
If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii (false, it ended up on DS)

07/25/2006
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz) (false)

7/31/2006
Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs? (true, I think)

8/04/2006
Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany (this happened right?)

08/11/2006
- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3 (true)
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch (true)
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday (true, but it wasn't Wii exclusive)

8/15/2006
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo (makes sense)
- Wii could launch @ $199 US (it could have)
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (true?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release (didn't happen)

08/27/2006
-Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii (I've heard no secret)
-The last secret is a Head Mounted Display (false?)
-Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD (?)
-Disaster is to release in January 2007 (it could still happen...)

10/28/2006
-CNN content provider of news contendt for news channel (false)
-Spin the globe to find news stories around the world (true)
-Sega moved most of it develepment from PS3 to Wii over summer (true, but probably not as early as last summer)
-DVD capable Wii for Japan in 2007 (was announced, could still happen)

01/03/2007
-DQ Swords to be a Wii pack-in in 2007 (not gonna happen while Wii is still being sold out)

01/06/2007
-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)
-NiGHTS Wii (still pending.....)
-SE & Disney to put KH on Nintendo consoles (lets hope so)

01/09/2007
-SE to sell two franchises (KH & Mana to Disney?) (Most likely false)

01/24/2007
-Nintendo to release Wiimote v2.0 (rubber grips & rechargeable batteries)(False, but 3rd parties have provided those upgrades)

01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (very likely, but we'll see)

01/31/2007
-Konami to announce a "flood" of games for Wii (I wouldn't call it a flood)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (was this announced?)

03/10/2007 technically from 02/25/2007
-EA developing a dancing game for wii that uses a microphone (true)

03/18/2007
-Nintendo to release an external HDD for Wii (???)

thats not all the rumors, but its most of them.

   
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 22, 2007, 03:20:21 AM
Yeah, there were a handful of side quests in Twilight Princess (even if most of them were collect-a-thons). And Tingle is NOT in the game, so mark that as being false.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: ryancoke on March 22, 2007, 03:24:17 AM
I'm crossing my fingers for the external hard drive. Actually, i'm crossing my fingers for Nintendo to update the Wii firmware to allow third party USB hard drives.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 03/18/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2007, 03:43:17 AM
According to G4tv, there may be a reason why Nintendo has not released Duck Hunt and Hogans Alley yet on the VC. The Gun attachment for the Wiimote labeled "Zapper" was listed as a work inprogress back at E3 and may be released sooner than you think.



They also mentioned that it was rumored that the Resident Evil 4 Wiimake and/or RE: Umbrella Chronicles may be the first Wii games to make use of this peripheral.

That would make for some interesting gameplay for RE:UC but I'm not so sure about using the Zapper in RE4 Wiimake. Motion sensing controlling Leon's arm, and therefore his aim, should already adds enough to the gameplay w/o adding Zapper support.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: Pale on April 06, 2007, 04:01:49 AM
I'd say it's extremely possible that it will be used in Umbrella Chronicles, as the way the game is described makes sense with the placement of things like the analog stick.

RE:Wiimake I don't think so though, based on this page...

http://www.capcom.co.jp/wii_bio4/operation/index.html

Also, I still don't understand how this is going to work with Duck Hunt and Hogan's Alley... are they going to change the code and put a cross hairs on it?  I still don't buy it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2007, 04:17:18 AM
Well they showed a photo of the zapper case and just below it it said

Zapper Style
"work in progress"

But I'm also curious how they are gona make it work. How did the old school NES zapper work?
Didn't it have a camera that would locate the white flash on the screen and thats how it determined if you made your shot or not? Maybe the peripheral has software embedded that changes the way the camera would work.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: Pale on April 06, 2007, 04:19:58 AM
That's an interesting thought BnM, but then it wouldn't be using the Wii remote's normal pointer function...

Hmm.  Of all the arguments I've heard for how it's going to work (that are usually "THE WII POINTER CAN DO IT DUH!") that holds up the most as possible.  Hmm. Hmm. Hmm indeed.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on April 06, 2007, 04:20:04 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Pale
Also, I still don't understand how this is going to work with Duck Hunt and Hogan's Alley... are they going to change the code and put a cross hairs on it?  I still don't buy it.

More likely the emulator would overlay the crosshair.  Program the emulator to interpret the Wii pointer like any other game that uses it, and draw the crosshair on the screen after rendering the game itself.  When you fire, the emulator would convert the crosshair's position into the format the game expects and knows how to interpret before feeding it the data.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: vudu on April 06, 2007, 04:28:26 AM
Anyone else notice this gun that popped up over at GoNintendo yesterday?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2007, 04:34:50 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Pale
That's an interesting thought BnM, but then it wouldn't be using the Wii remote's normal pointer function...

Hmm.  Of all the arguments I've heard for how it's going to work (that are usually "THE WII POINTER CAN DO IT DUH!") that holds up the most as possible.  Hmm. Hmm. Hmm indeed.
Why couldn't it do both? The Eyetoy 2 is supposed to be able to track multiple tagets, so maybe the little "upgrade" that the Zapper may add allows it to track the sensor bar and the flash on the screen at the same time.

But if your playing the NES, SNES, or any games that weren't made specifically for the Wii, you wouldn't need the pointer at that time anyway.

edit:
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
Anyone else notice this gun that popped up over at GoNintendo yesterday?

wow, that actually looks pretty good, but might be a little fragile when the Wiimote and nunchuck aren't attached.

edit2: RE: Umbrella Chronicles trailer

Definately a light gun game, just incase there was any doubt.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 06, 2007, 04:55:54 AM
I'm guessing that you will calibrate your aim before playing, just like any other modern lightgun game, and once you do, you can't change your seating position or it will mess up your aim again.

This should be easy for the Wiimote, as the mote will send the calculation data at the time of trigger press as to where the actual cursor is (which the player won't see during the calibration) as opposed to where the player sees the aim.

HOTD2 had you fire three calibration shots and basically worked fine after that. The Resident Wiivil will probably have you do the same thing: one in the upper left corner, one in lower right and one center. That gives the game a complete understanding of how large your TV is and where the player is aiming on the X and Y axes (yes, that is the plural of "axis". I looked it up). Once you take three shots, the game can take the three offset values (how far from the on-screen target the cursor was when the player pulled the trigger) to calculate where the player is aiming on the screen at the time, no "flashes" required.

You can kinda use the Wiimote as a lightgun if you sight along the d-pad, but it'll take some getting used to before I adjust to where the gun is aiming since I'm so used to the pointer not actually pointing to the cursor on screen at all.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 09, 2007, 04:19:03 AM
Is Assassins Creed coming to DS & Wii?

Well according to Kotaku, Gamestop & Gamefly have the DS version listed for a September '07 release and are offering pre-order/rental options, but according to NeoGAF there was a leaked list that also had it listed for the Wii.

I haven't seen this list yet, but as soon as I find it, it will be posted here.

edit: I just saw the leaked list, which is also from Kotaku, but the only problem is that the list was from over a year ago. I wonder how much weight it actually holds.
So for the meantime take this as non-confirmation of Assassins Creed for DS until a more credible rumor pops up supporting the Wii version. Thats what I get for jumping the gun.....

update: Apparently the leaked list(provided by Kotaku above) has been very accurate so far, as many of the games on the list have already been released. Does this add credibility to AC coming to Wii? Maybe, but as with every other game on the list, we'll just have to wait and see.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: nickmitch on April 09, 2007, 05:59:34 AM
Well, a few of those games have come out, right? TMNT, Rayman and there is a Naruto game comming for the 360, also, there's the rumored Tom Clancy game. . .
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: The Omen on April 10, 2007, 02:56:09 AM
From game tester land, or, a little birdie told me:

A new FPS from Free Radical is supposedly making waves through the grapevine of the game tester underground.  As you know, EA published Timesplitters:FP (I was testing Madden while that game was being tested in the lan area of the building) So knowing there's still a few friendly connections staff-wise, I am inclined to believe at least some of this.   Apparently Free Radical now have a deal with Ubisoft and they have an exclusive Wii FPS in the alpha stages.  The excitement going around about this top secret game is magnified because some think it's actually Timesplitters 4.

Why is Nascar 08 being held back from the Wii?  I don't know...it was underway with online component and everything.  Perhaps it's scrapped until next year, or perhaps Nintendo doesn't want devs to announce any online enabled games yet?  Either way, I'm surprised.

A famous Capcom classic getting the Wii treatment?  An interesting tidbit out of sunny Capcom HQ, via email. "On **, the primary thinking was to follow the Metroid Prime transition from 2d to 3d, with perhaps some 3rd person spliced in.  It was a quick discussion but intriguing anyway.  Of course **** (name) wasn't supposed to squawk, but yeah, there it is.  But this type of talk is frequent with top brass, and a lot of times nothing comes of it.  But some times...."  Take this one lightly, but it sure sounded like a great idea.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: Kairon on April 10, 2007, 02:59:17 AM
Dude, I'd SOOOO buy a Nascar game. Only type of realistic car racing game I like!

Also... *crosses figners for Wii Exclusive FPS'*

And Capcom Classic huh? Hmmm....

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: Kairon on April 10, 2007, 03:02:28 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Is Assassins Creed coming to DS & Wii?

Well according to Kotaku, Gamestop & Gamefly have the DS version listed for a September '07 release and are offering pre-order/rental options, but according to NeoGAF there was a leaked list that also had it listed for the Wii.

I haven't seen this list yet, but as soon as I find it, it will be posted here.

edit: I just saw the leaked list, which is also from Kotaku, but the only problem is that the list was from over a year ago. I wonder how much weight it actually holds.
So for the meantime take this as non-confirmation of Assassins Creed for DS until a more credible rumor pops up supporting the Wii version. Thats what I get for jumping the gun.....


The Gamestop and Gamefly listing for a graphically intensive title like Assassin's Creed on DS is shocking!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
KaironW@aol.com
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/06/2007)
Post by: The Omen on April 10, 2007, 03:04:29 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Is Assassins Creed coming to DS & Wii?

Well according to Kotaku, Gamestop & Gamefly have the DS version listed for a September '07 release and are offering pre-order/rental options, but according to NeoGAF there was a leaked list that also had it listed for the Wii.


That leaked list was months ago before the Wii was released, then promptly removed.  All the games on the list have come out, or have been announced.  So maybe it is coming out.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2007, 03:26:51 AM
Not sure how a double post happened....
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2007, 03:26:52 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: The Omen
From game tester land, or, a little birdie told me:

A famous Capcom classic getting the Wii treatment?  An interesting tidbit out of sunny Capcom HQ, via email. "On **, the primary thinking was to follow the Metroid Prime transition from 2d to 3d, with perhaps some 3rd person spliced in.  It was a quick discussion but intriguing anyway.  Of course **** (name) wasn't supposed to squawk, but yeah, there it is.  But this type of talk is frequent with top brass, and a lot of times nothing comes of it.  But some times...."  Take this one lightly, but it sure sounded like a great idea.
Thanx for contributing, the more rumors to monitor the better.

Now onto this Capcom classic... I hope they don't mean MegaMan as that has already jumped to 3D before and it was already 3rd person(MegaMan Legends, did anybody else suffer through that one?), it didn't turn out too well.
But if they are gonna try it out Metroid Prime style this time, then I welcome the challenge of a new FPA game starring the old and almost forgotten Mega Man.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Ceric on April 10, 2007, 03:36:07 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
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Originally posted by: The Omen
From game tester land, or, a little birdie told me:

A famous Capcom classic getting the Wii treatment?  An interesting tidbit out of sunny Capcom HQ, via email. "On **, the primary thinking was to follow the Metroid Prime transition from 2d to 3d, with perhaps some 3rd person spliced in.  It was a quick discussion but intriguing anyway.  Of course **** (name) wasn't supposed to squawk, but yeah, there it is.  But this type of talk is frequent with top brass, and a lot of times nothing comes of it.  But some times...."  Take this one lightly, but it sure sounded like a great idea.
Thanx for contributing, the more rumors to monitor the better.

Now onto this Capcom classic... I hope they don't mean MegaMan as that has already jumped to 3D before and it was already 3rd person(MegaMan Legends, did anybody else suffer through that one?), it didn't turn out too well.
But if they are gonna try it out Metroid Prime style this time, then I welcome the challenge of a new FPA game starring the old and almost forgotten Mega Man.


You mean the non-Chibi one?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Adrock on April 10, 2007, 03:53:08 AM
I'd guess Captain Commando...

Maybe Strider.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2007, 04:03:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Adrock
I'd guess Captain Commando...

Maybe Strider.
Ooohhh, either of those would be interesting, especially Strider.
Capcom's Gamers Day is coming up on Thursday, just after Nintendo's Retailer Meeting which is tomorrow. So maybe we'll find something out about this rumor this week.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Ceric on April 10, 2007, 04:11:02 AM
As long as they keep the Strider Dieing sequence.

Though I see Strider as a perfect fit for the 360 Demographic.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Arbok on April 10, 2007, 04:45:46 AM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
The excitement going around about this top secret game is magnified because some think it's actually Timesplitters 4.


I'd be in hog heaven if that turns out to be true. The second in the series was easily one of my favorite games on the Cube last generation, and I would be the first in line for a fourth in the series.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Kairon on April 10, 2007, 04:55:14 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Ceric
As long as they keep the Strider Dieing sequence.

Though I see Strider as a perfect fit for the 360 Demographic.


Soon to be a subset of the Wii demographic! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 10, 2007, 04:57:29 AM
Timesplitters is pretty cool can we get a early 2008 release maybe?  Timespliters doesn't do well amongst the giants without a little marketing.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Strell on April 10, 2007, 05:36:09 AM
Megaman Legends is sorely underrated.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Ceric on April 10, 2007, 05:59:33 AM
Isn't the the game the Servbot came from?  If so that justify it existence all by itself.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Kairon on April 10, 2007, 06:05:22 AM
*shrug* I'll give Timesplitters a chance. I really wasn't on my radar at all on the GC.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: ryancoke on April 10, 2007, 07:39:05 AM
3D Bionic Commando would be sweet!

Megaman Legends was awesome...at least in my book ;P

Timesplitters Future Perfect was an awesome FPS.  I hope they make TS4 on wii
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on April 10, 2007, 07:46:23 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: ryancoke
3D Bionic Commando would be sweet!

That would be awesome.  Grappling hook action is unique and a lot of fun.  It's what the game project I'm working on at DigiPen this year is based around.  I don't know why so few games make extensive use of the mechanic.

I thought Mega Man Legends was kinda cool, though the controls could really use some work.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/10/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2007, 03:49:01 AM
SEGA fans rejoice, as it seems they are intent on returning to the days when Sega mattered.
It appears that another franchise from years back might be getting revived, a game that seems a perfect fit for the motion sensing controller provided by the Wii, a game that many fans have been waiting for a proper sequel to for many years.
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Think NiGHTS was the only retro-game by SEGA coming back to life? Think again. Come Friday and find out what could be one of the biggest no-brainers in retuning franchises to Wii.

Let’s just say that DK: Bongo Blast probably won’t be the only Wii game you’ll be shaking beats to this year.
source

I'm pretty sure this would be a new 'Samba De Amigo', and I could be wrong, but maybe a Space Channel 5 isn't too far behind.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: The Omen on April 12, 2007, 08:50:06 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Smoke39
Quote

Originally posted by: ryancoke
3D Bionic Commando would be sweet!

That would be awesome.  Grappling hook action is unique and a lot of fun.  It's what the game project I'm working on at DigiPen this year is based around.  I don't know why so few games make extensive use of the mechanic.

I thought Mega Man Legends was kinda cool, though the controls could really use some work.


Bionic Commando 3d would be sweet, wouldn't it?

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 12, 2007, 02:18:23 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1  Come Friday and find out what could be one of the biggest no-brainers in retuning franchises to Wii.


Pap was right.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 12, 2007, 02:29:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1  Come Friday and find out what could be one of the biggest no-brainers in retuning franchises to Wii.


Pap was right.


I'm flattered!

But seriously, is this about the thread I made where I said that Samba de Amigo should be on the Wii and would work well?

If so, I wouldn't give myself FULL credit since I do remember someone saying that the minute Nintendo unveiled the Nun chuck and the Wiimote in 2005 they thought of Samba de Amigo. Plus, I read that Miyamoto is a HUUUUUUGE SDA fan, so I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo is actually trying to bring the series over to the Wii.

And finally like the quote says, this is a no brainer. The engine might need to change, yeah, but overall the game's concept begs to be on the Wii.

Just a quick mention on Medacast should do well, if the news is true I mean .
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: vudu on May 07, 2007, 07:23:36 AM
... grain of salt ... yadda yadda ...

RUMOR - Rockstar’s Table Tennis heading to the Wii
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 07, 2007, 07:41:40 AM
Meh, didn't buy Table Tennis for my 360, not going to buy it for Wii... =|

Now Karous, on the other hand...This is a rumour I can enjoy!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on May 07, 2007, 11:25:23 AM
More shmups is always a good thing. :D
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on May 07, 2007, 12:54:07 PM
Wait a minute...

What the hell happened to this??
"Think NiGHTS was the only retro-game by SEGA coming back to life? Think again. Come Friday and find out what could be one of the biggest no-brainers in retuning franchises to Wii.

Let’s just say that DK: Bongo Blast probably won’t be the only Wii game you’ll be shaking beats to this year."

Looks like that rumor was full of it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 08, 2007, 12:15:20 AM
Or maybe Sega just didn't feel like revealing the game yet? =)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Ceric on May 08, 2007, 12:34:13 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: pap64
Wait a minute...

What the hell happened to this??
"Think NiGHTS was the only retro-game by SEGA coming back to life? Think again. Come Friday and find out what could be one of the biggest no-brainers in retuning franchises to Wii.

Let’s just say that DK: Bongo Blast probably won’t be the only Wii game you’ll be shaking beats to this year."

Looks like that rumor was full of it.


It never said which Friday to come back at.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Athrun Zala on May 08, 2007, 02:08:24 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: vudu
... grain of salt ... yadda yadda ...

RUMOR - Rockstar’s Table Tennis heading to the Wii
since RTT and GTAIV are based on the same engine, I wonder if GTAIV Wii rumours will pop out all over the place....
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on May 08, 2007, 03:11:17 AM
You should be able to play Table Tennis in GTA4.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on May 08, 2007, 07:28:47 AM
You probably will be able to play TT in GTA4.   TT sales are dying down so just throw the game into GTA4 and add a feature with ease.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2007, 02:45:44 AM
Harmonix & MTV's Rockband coming to Wii?
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A focus group participant said that testers specifically said the game, already announced on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, would be coming to the Wii as well. On top of that, they were told that the game's set list will feature nothing but original artists, and that the drum peripheral (which Harmonix CEO Alex Rigopulos promised would be "a really impressive piece of hardware") will feature a drum with a kick pedal and real sticks.

The group was asked what it thought about a bundle including the game, a wireless guitar, a drum kit, and a microphone being priced at $200. The notion wasn't terribly popular, but it became slightly more appealing to the group when the price was lowered to $175. At $150, the reader said everyone in the group was on board.


So in summary:
-Coming to Wii
-Drum peripheral comes with kick pedal and real sticks ("real impressive piece of hardware")
-All about original artists
-Bundle with game, wireless guitar, drum kit, micrphone with possible price range of $150-$200

Hopefully it ships fully featured like the 360 and PS3 counterparts (that means fully online enabled - no shortcomings ) and also comes out at the same time as the other two versions too.  

edit: apparently I've been sleeping for the last couple of weeks, as I guess this has already been confirmed by Harmonix.
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US, April 2, 2007 - During a conference call to announce its latest music game Rock Band for release on Xbox 360 and PS3, Harmonix CEO Alex Rigopulos hinted strongly that a Wii-specific version of the title would be coming out in the future. When asked if there was any chance Rock Band would arrive on Wii, Rigopulos said without hesitation, "Absolutely."

"We will, at some time, bring Rock Band to every [important] platform," Rigopulos said. He added that Harmonix would optimize future versions of Rock Band to fit the strengths of the platform. "I think the Wiimote is something that holds enormous promise."
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on May 26, 2007, 01:06:51 PM
Ghastly rumor that will spread like poison!

Crysis Screenshot on the Wii?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Adrock on May 26, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
This one is worse

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Link then appears screaming for a very brief second before the screen turns black and a tri-force slams onto the screen and smashes in to pieces.

If the character model used for Link is any indication of where this series is headed, expect ultra-realism, grittiness, and a very dark feel.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......... Oh dear, that'll be the day. Frank Miller's The Legend of Zelda.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Caterkiller on May 26, 2007, 03:19:28 PM
You know, most of that seemed pretty legit, but when I read the Zelda part, im like "maaaan!"

Honestly, does anyone wan't Zelda to get any darker than it has in TP? I think where its at is fine, and I don't mind things being upped a notch here and there, but ultra realism? come on guys!  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Adrock on May 26, 2007, 03:39:41 PM
I didn't think Twilight Princess was that dark. Nintendo didn't really push the limits as far as what I expect in a Zelda game. Comparatively, Wind Waker had a more brutal death scene. They didn't even show Ganondorf getting stabbed at the end of Twilight Princess. Even Ocarina of Time's ending was edgier.

Still, I wouldn't say I want Zelda to be "dark." Some things need work, but making a game dark isn't the only way to go.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Shift Key on May 26, 2007, 03:46:13 PM
I'll believe that Zelda news when I see the video. Until now all I smell is lies - or maybe that's the GAF part of the story.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on May 26, 2007, 04:28:20 PM
TP wasn't very dark at all.  I wouldn't mind a darker Zelda, but I don't think I'd like a Zelda game that had a more realistic look than TP.

Either way though, it sounds pretty bogus.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: mantidor on May 26, 2007, 05:23:52 PM
Anyone who thinks downloadable content is a nice idea should be shot, I want a complete game. I really have no idea how to apply the connect24 thing to games, the only thing is having feedback from the weather channel to change the enviroment of the game, but I don't know if it would fit with Metroid well, besides that, I really don't know.

Sounds like a lot of educated guesses to support the absurd idea of hyperrealist screaming Link, but no one is buying it.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on May 26, 2007, 06:48:48 PM
It is possible to release additional content for a complete game, you know...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: IceCold on May 26, 2007, 06:57:37 PM
From the rumour thread.. (re: Disaster)
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The game still appeared to be very much “in development” due to the lack of playable areas, but featured graphics much improved from the E3 Trailer.
Heh. E3 trailer? More like a three second FMV clip..
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Ghisy on May 26, 2007, 08:55:10 PM
From that thread on neogaf, seems like everyone is excited about the game "BS".
I wonder what it could be...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Ceric on May 26, 2007, 11:06:18 PM
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Vision Red – Original Nintendo RPG. Looked similar to Final Fantasy VII in terms of character design and style of play.


That is the only thing in there that was remotely not just something from the rumor mills or a forgone conclusion.  I'll still wait and see.  When is E3 again?

Edit:
Also on the Crysis front.  I could see that happening. I could actually see that happening with a few games.  If MS spins it right having some online enabled game be 360,PC, and Wii and then leveraging their whole Live their trying to do might make them some money.  The whole idea was that this was suppose to appeal to you if you like to play a certain style.  Since I personally don't think it be in MS's best interest to emulate the Wiimote anytime soon this would be a way to offer that style of play to their online customers.  Yes I could see that happening.  I could also see that if it really took off and was popular for the control scheme we would eventually see a Halo3 Multiplayer game on the Wii.  It wouldn't have the single-player portion at all.  Just a tutorial for the new controls and Multiplayer.  The more people on Live the better for MS and if they can get companies to use the service for a competing system as well all the better.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2007, 12:18:02 AM
I was originally gonna post that [strike]dream scenario[/strike] rumor, but all of the following was why I didn't bother:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......... Oh dear, that'll be the day. Frank Miller's The Legend of Zelda.

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I'll believe that Zelda news when I see the video. Until now all I smell is lies - or maybe that's the GAF part of the story.

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Either way though, it sounds pretty bogus.

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Sounds like a lot of educated guesses to support the absurd idea of hyperrealist screaming Link, but no one is buying it.

Quote

From that thread on neogaf, seems like everyone is excited about the game "BS".
I wonder what it could be...

Maybe I should have just posted it for the laughs and giggles.

As for the Crysis thing, lets hope that it is true, and I will but it in support for more developers of that type just to support the Wii.
It would be kinda like why I'm gonna buy Manhunt 2 for Wii... just to show that games for mature gamers will sell to all of us older gamers on the Wii.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Ceric on May 27, 2007, 12:39:42 AM
I like to send that message that mature games are indeed welcomed but I ain't touching Manhunt 2 with a ten foot pole unless I'm made to.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 02, 2007, 01:19:17 PM
Newest Rumor posted at GoNintendo talks about a possible Hard Drive announcement for the Wii.

Before you just cast the rumor away it comes from speculation from the IGN staff, whom are a little better source than most rumors.

The thought is that with Neo Geo VC games about to come out a new hard drive attachment could help out the problems with Wii Storage.

This could a very good thing for the Nintendo Wii, and lets discuss what will also have to come with this update.

First, we will most likely see an firmware update to the Wii that will allow for game saves and virtual console games to be saved to the hard drive, and be played from the hard drive.  So with this upgrade we could see some other huge promises for the system.

1) New Wii Internet Browser that will allow you to cache web pages, download save movies, and actually have more of the functions we expect from all web browsers.

2)The 512 FLASH RAM could eventually be used as Virtual memory to provide more RAM for the Wii.  This is unlikely, but could be plausible if a new Wii console is built that combines the hard drive.

3)Original VC console games on the way with higher size limitation.

4)Downloaded Preview Channel

5)Music/Movie Channel

6)New version of Mii with more options, and perhaps a chat program

Obviously, this E3 could have huge announcements as several of these ideas will appeal to Non-Gamer and Gamer alike.  And if Nintendo could release a nice hard drive for around $50-79.00   Then it could be a huge success.  Nintendo could even package it hard drive with a free download card or game stored right on the hard drive already.


Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 02, 2007, 02:14:20 PM
Doesn't the Wii already have USB ports that allow external hard drives to be hooked up? I could be wrong on that, and if so please forgive my ignorance. I just think it would be better if Nintendo let us use our existing USB storage things instead of buying somethnig new that would only work with the Wii...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Adrock on June 02, 2007, 02:17:11 PM
A lot of people hate the idea of a hard drive for Wii. I don't really see why. If you don't want it, don't get it. I think Wii could use a hard drive and that it could open up a multitude of possibilities. I probably wouldn't buy one or if I did, I'd need a good reason to, but I'm not opposed to Nintendo releasing one.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2007, 03:01:15 PM
Unfortunately that is not a NEW rumor

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1 March 18, 2007
The rumor comes from the Japanese gamer mag - GameLabo
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The meat of the rumour, which has been doing the rounds on several US and European websites over the weekend, suggests that a Nintendo meeting took place recently to discuss the subject of an external hard drive for Wii.

While the story might sound a bit ridiculous on the face of it, fact is that many Wii gamers have already hit their limit on the Flash memory that comes with the console - especially if you've been downloading as many VC games as you can get your hands on.

Source - Computer&Videogames.com


But it is good to hear it is still floating around, hopefully it come true. E3 is now too far away, we shouldn't have to wait till the end of summer to find out about all the good stuff.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2007, 04:14:16 PM
I would like to see a game come with a 2gb SD card for a swap file of sorts. Animal Crossing came with a memory card, so I don't think it's out of line. A $60 MMOG with a 2gb SD card for storage; yep that would be tops.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 02, 2007, 10:46:33 PM
I understand the concept behind not wanting a hard drive.  It is an additional cost to your system.  Personally though, I don't mind it...if it means that Nintendo can do more things than it could before.

Like mentioning creating virtual RAM so games can be bigger or better...or improving several key functions to the Wii that need fixing.  The problem isn't the hard drive it would be pricing it, and creating it as an acceptable upgrade for the system.  

I remember when Nintendo added the 4 MEGS of RAM with Donkey Kong 64.  It created new life for the Nintendo 64, but everyone feared it would divided the N64 audience and confuse developers because some would program for the additional RAM and others wouldn't.

Well, it turned out not to be a big deal at all.  And helped bring about many a great game.  Why can't the Wii benefit from such an upgrade?

I can see either having a very affordable standalone price $59.99-79.99 with some sort of additional little benefit attached to it like a free $10.00 download card, or new software already installed on it.  (Just the idea of having a more advanced Mii system would make me buy it.)  

Or actually creating a must own game that requires the hard drive and having it packed it...this could go for $79.99-89.99.  This would be a dangerous way to go because of the cost of the game...but as Guitar Hero has shown us people are willing to pay for a great game.  The real importance would be showing gamers the additional benefits of the hard drive beyond that one single game.

The SD card idea is nice, but it isn't perfect.  Several things you can with a large hard drive that an SD card just won't do as easily.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 04/12/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2007, 04:25:10 AM
I thought I would waste some more time and update this list.

07/09/2006
-An Actual Pokemon RPG may be in the works (?)
-A WiiDS connectivity game is in the works (true)
-Lots of side-quest still being added to Zelda: Twilight Princess (true)
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (false)
-Many peripherals are in the works and a Mic may even be added to the Wiimote (true and false)

7/14/2006
If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii (false, it ended up on DS)

07/25/2006
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz) (false)

7/31/2006
Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs? (true, I think)

8/04/2006
Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany (this happened right?)

08/11/2006
- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3 (true)
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch (true)
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday (true, but it wasn't Wii exclusive)

8/15/2006
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo (makes sense)
- Wii could launch @ $199 US (it could have)
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (true?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release (didn't happen)

08/27/2006
-Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii (I've heard no secret)
-The last secret is a Head Mounted Display (false?)
-Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD (?)
-Disaster is to release in January 2007 (false)

10/28/2006
-CNN content provider of news contendt for news channel (false)
-Spin the globe to find news stories around the world (true)
-Sega moved most of it develepment from PS3 to Wii over summer (true, but probably not as early as last summer)
-DVD capable Wii for Japan in 2007 (was announced, could still happen)

01/03/2007
-DQ Swords to be a Wii pack-in in 2007 (not gonna happen while Wii is still being sold out)

01/06/2007
-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)
-NiGHTS Wii (true)
-SE & Disney to put KH on Nintendo consoles (lets hope so)

01/09/2007
-SE to sell two franchises (KH & Mana to Disney?) (Most likely false)

01/24/2007
-Nintendo to release Wiimote v2.0 (rubber grips & rechargeable batteries)(False, but 3rd parties have provided those upgrades)

01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (very likely, but we'll see)

01/31/2007
-Konami to announce a "flood" of games for Wii (I wouldn't call it a flood, but it was related to water)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (true)

03/10/2007 technically from 02/25/2007
-EA developing a dancing game for wii that uses a microphone (true)

03/18/2007
-Nintendo to release an external HDD for Wii (waiting for E3, but rumor just resurfaced by IGN editors on 06/02/2007)

04/09/2007
-Assasins Creed coming to DS & Wii (waiting for E3...)

04/10/2007
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for E3...)
-A Wii Nascar game is being held back to incorporate online capabilities (waiting for E3...)
-Capcom is to revamp an old franchise into the 3D 3rd person realm (waiting for E3...)

04/12/2007
-Sega to make a game that will have you "shaking to beats" this year <Samba De Amigo?> (waiting for E3...)

05/07/2007
-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii  (waiting for E3...)
-Dreamcast shooter Karous may be headed to Wii  (waiting for E3...)

05/26/2007
-Crysis in development for Wii (waiting for E3...)

thats not all the rumors, but its most of them.    
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 03, 2007, 12:43:40 PM
Great update on the rumors.  It is always great to see that some rumors do come true, and the outlandish ones always seem to be false.  The lesson is to try to evaluate everything you read with a question of plausibility.  

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: vudu on June 15, 2007, 04:57:51 AM
This isn't a rumor, but since we've talked about it a bunch on here, might as well post this here.

Wii Blaster for sale at EB Games for $19.99; available 6/26/07.  Compatible with Wii shooting game software such as Wii Play, Nintendo Duck Hunt, Resident Evil 4 – Wii Edition, Chicken Shoot, Brothers in Arms: Double Time, and more.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 15, 2007, 05:04:02 AM
Yes, Guilty Gear Dust Strikers was announced.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2007, 05:08:03 AM
that blaster is the ugliest one I've seen yet.
When do one of the other ones mentioned in >this< get released?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 18, 2007, 12:26:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
Yes, Guilty Gear Dust Strikers was announced.

If you are talking about the Wii version, it's Accent Core...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on June 19, 2007, 04:08:10 AM
Whoops, you're right.

My bad.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 19, 2007, 04:41:31 AM
OMG - Nintendo going 3rd Party!!!

Ok. now that I got that out of the way, it is time to break out the old Apple & Nintendo rumor log and add this one to that never dieing list.
Apparently Nintendo is gonna license out games for the iPhone, which would technically make Nintendo a 3rd party to Apple.


If you can’t beat them join them. With the iPhone days away from being launched Nintendo has apparently begun working with Apple, licensing a limited amount of content for the new phone. It was rumored a while back that Nintendo was planning on releasing a phone on their own, however this was scuttled shortly after the iPhone was first shown in January.


The games, likely to be aimed at the "casual gamer" market, will be released on the iTunes Store for about $29.99 a piece and will use the multi-touch touch screen inplace of a d-pad and buttons.


Asked anonymously whether or not these games would cut into Nintendo DS sales, we heard a resounding no. The logic is that because the licensed games will be exclusive and cater to an older audience they should not intrude into Nintendo’s existing markets.
The one thing Nintendo does worry about is their amount of control of Apple. While not developing a cell phone internally has its advantages, giving up control of platform has not historically been a practice Nintendo has taken. Nevertheless Nintendo sees gaming on Mobile Smart Phones as a threat to their core business and a partnership with Apple could be seen as a bold move into a very profitable market.  One thing is for sure Nintendo should expect to share in the marketing spotlight of the iPhone in the same way that AT&T has.


You might even think that this may be the first step in licensing some multi-touch screen action for the DS2 (coming in 2010?) should this rumor hold true. It would also resurface the iTunes channel for Wii rumor (was that a rumor?) and the collaborative project to take on MS from Nintendo and Apple rumors from way back.    
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 05/26/2007)
Post by: Ceric on June 19, 2007, 04:46:51 AM
I way to play with technology your going to be R&Ding and maybe making a profit.  Sounds great.  Though I don't see this long term and I hope they don't put their big guns there or we may end up with Lip Stick Link again.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 29, 2007, 02:03:54 PM
Beautiful Katamari PS3 canned in favor of Beautiful KatamarWii

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Namco Bandai revealed earlier this year that it was developing the next-generation Katamari Damacy sequel, Beautiful Katamari, for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Up until recently, the developer continued to work on both versions of the project. However, sources close to Namco Bandai tell IGN that the studio ran into some trouble with the port of the game to PlayStation 3 and these issues, coupled with the stalled sales of the system, have led to the project's quiet cancellation. Looking to better-than-expected sales of Wii, the company has, say insiders, re-shifted resources to ready a Wii build of Beautiful Katamari instead. Given that the title cannot be ported from Xbox 360, the game is being re-concepted for Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/29/2007)
Post by: Caliban on June 29, 2007, 02:48:50 PM
"Easy on the nuts", says Sony.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/29/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on June 29, 2007, 04:12:06 PM
OMFG no way! Beautiful Katamari on Wii would be so for the win.

Please let this rumor be true.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on June 29, 2007, 07:27:15 PM
Please! PLEASE!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on July 08, 2007, 01:04:03 PM
Here's a nice juicy rumor:

Mario Kart will be revealed at E3, release in Europe in '07, US in '08, because SSBB will be delayed in Europe 'till '08.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/29/2007)
Post by: Crimm on July 08, 2007, 01:06:12 PM
Hmm, the question is "will it have online?"
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 06/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 08, 2007, 01:25:00 PM
If it doesn't have online then there is no point in releasing it.

and this rumor has been added to the OP.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Crimm on July 08, 2007, 02:37:46 PM
This is Nintendo we're talking about.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on July 08, 2007, 03:25:30 PM
I wonder how the controls will be for mario cart. In an old thread, probably about last years E3, I had come up with a few ideas but that was before playing excite truck and feeling how smooth it controls by tilting. Unless they add something new to the mix that involves more buttons i think holding the wiimote sideways would be good enough.

Steer = tilting
Accelerate = 2
Brake = 1
Items = B
Hop/drift = A (hold for drifting)
Dpad = hold to throw items in a certain direction

if they go the double dash route again i expect alot of shaking at the start of the race... Ugh i hope they don't do another doubled dash
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: couchmonkey on July 09, 2007, 08:36:50 AM
It might be hard to get consistent, but I'd like to see your exact control scheme, only with a flick of the controller to hop...then landing with the controller tilted initiates a drift.  If it was implemented well, it would rule.  If not, it might just be annoying.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Plugabugz on July 09, 2007, 09:06:42 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Here's a nice juicy rumor:

Mario Kart will be revealed at E3, release in Europe in '07, US in '08, because SSBB will be delayed in Europe 'till '08.


I don't believe this. Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario, Mario Kart and Metroid Prime 3 released from August to the end of 2007? Really?

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 09, 2007, 09:44:31 AM
Easycure:  I really like your control setup.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that setup.

Though I think you can completely negate the B button for items and just use that for the hop.  Here is my reasoning.  If you are already pushing the D-Pad for item use, why not just tap any direction for items that can held behind you or the triple turtle shells that act like a shield.

Then you can even decide to hold an item in front, left, right or behind you for different kinds of offensive and defensive manuevers.

This control scheme would really push the Mario Kart battle elements to a new degree of strategy and aggressive play.  I also believe that the double dash characters is the way to really make this battle system look and play aggressive and cool.  

I am not talking about that co-op mode.  But the idea of having DK or another character being the personality fighting other racers.  Having Luigi actually throwing a green shell sideways would be the coolest thing since Mario Kart SNES.  Being able to spot what an opponent's weapon is in their hands before they use it would add more depth to racing, as you plan the best way to pass your opponent without getting burned.  

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: couchmonkey on July 10, 2007, 03:17:19 AM
Rumour: Mario and friends to wear helmets in next Mario Kart game due to NHTSA complaints.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 10, 2007, 03:33:12 AM
Couchmonkey:  I haven't heard that...but with the really cool redesigns for Super Mario Strikers I am ok with any interesting redesigns that could give them personality and edge.

Though for the record, I don't think I believe that rumor.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2007, 03:42:34 AM
This one os taken from the Pre-E3 Expectations Thread.
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Rumor Reporter appears to be pretty confident that Camelot will be showing off a Wii RPG at E3...I'm pretty sure that if he's wrong, we have a legal right to devour him!

I would love for them to be right, but then again, a BBQ by Bill does sound a little interesting.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Requiem on July 10, 2007, 03:43:18 AM
I.......I think he was joking.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2007, 03:57:08 AM
But I want some BBQ..... I hear Rumor Reporter taste like chicken and with the right sauce you would never know the difference.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 10, 2007, 04:00:37 AM
I believe that Requiem was responding to Spak, but the order it's in is rather amusing...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2007, 04:02:35 AM
So the BBQ is still a possibility?

*grabs fork and knife*

I call the sweet cheek meat!!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on July 10, 2007, 04:23:16 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Easycure:  I really like your control setup.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that setup.

Though I think you can completely negate the B button for items and just use that for the hop.  Here is my reasoning.  If you are already pushing the D-Pad for item use, why not just tap any direction for items that can held behind you or the triple turtle shells that act like a shield.

Then you can even decide to hold an item in front, left, right or behind you for different kinds of offensive and defensive manuevers.

This control scheme would really push the Mario Kart battle elements to a new degree of strategy and aggressive play.  I also believe that the double dash characters is the way to really make this battle system look and play aggressive and cool.  

I am not talking about that co-op mode.  But the idea of having DK or another character being the personality fighting other racers.  Having Luigi actually throwing a green shell sideways would be the coolest thing since Mario Kart SNES.  Being able to spot what an opponent's weapon is in their hands before they use it would add more depth to racing, as you plan the best way to pass your opponent without getting burned.


Thanks, alot.

i agree about adding newer battle elements as simple as all directional item throwing, its something i thought we'd of seem by now but i have to disagree about just using the d-pad for items simply because its small and you'd risk shooting it off in the wrong direction.

you know how when you have the banana bunch item and you press the button to release them and they trail behind you?
Well i want all (offensive) items to be treated that way. You press B, your items are set to be released w/o having to hold B, than you shoot them off with the d-pad. I think that simple enough.

CouchMonkey: I thought about that but even if implemented well it'd cause you to lose control a little. I wouldn't mind it if they used both ways
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on July 10, 2007, 08:25:43 AM
According to a photo take from a french web site, the Nintendo Wii version of DBZ:TB3 will feature an online battle mode:

Picture and story shown here

Edit: Confirmed from IGN. Sweet!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 10, 2007, 08:38:45 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: EasyCure
Quote

Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Easycure:  I really like your control setup.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that setup.

Though I think you can completely negate the B button for items and just use that for the hop.  Here is my reasoning.  If you are already pushing the D-Pad for item use, why not just tap any direction for items that can held behind you or the triple turtle shells that act like a shield.

Then you can even decide to hold an item in front, left, right or behind you for different kinds of offensive and defensive manuevers.

This control scheme would really push the Mario Kart battle elements to a new degree of strategy and aggressive play.  I also believe that the double dash characters is the way to really make this battle system look and play aggressive and cool.  

I am not talking about that co-op mode.  But the idea of having DK or another character being the personality fighting other racers.  Having Luigi actually throwing a green shell sideways would be the coolest thing since Mario Kart SNES.  Being able to spot what an opponent's weapon is in their hands before they use it would add more depth to racing, as you plan the best way to pass your opponent without getting burned.


Thanks, alot.

i agree about adding newer battle elements as simple as all directional item throwing, its something i thought we'd of seem by now but i have to disagree about just using the d-pad for items simply because its small and you'd risk shooting it off in the wrong direction.

you know how when you have the banana bunch item and you press the button to release them and they trail behind you?
Well i want all (offensive) items to be treated that way. You press B, your items are set to be released w/o having to hold B, than you shoot them off with the d-pad. I think that simple enough.

CouchMonkey: I thought about that but even if implemented well it'd cause you to lose control a little. I wouldn't mind it if they used both ways



I see your fear with the D-Pad.  But we are both wanting the same thing but going different routes to get it.

The holding Shells and weapons out is something I want too.  (Though not weapons, just most.)  However, I want to be able to select if I hold it out in front of the Kart to charge some one from behind or just to defend myself from an upcoming attack.  Or to the Sides So I can try to drift pass a drive and attack them at the same time.  Or the rear because I am in the lead and want protection.

Weapons can even have unique behaviors depending on how you fire them.  Red turtle shelfs fired on the left or right will seek the car that passed on last on that side, or is head of you but closest on that side.  Rear fired turtle shells will spin in place for awhile until somebody passes it and attack them.  

The easiest way to get this type of control is to just use the D-Pad.  Yeah it is small but it isn't that small, and it is totally capable of handling this type of control scheme.  As such leaving B for jumping.

Since this game is also more aggressive with the items, I would add a split second shield to all jumps.  It basically allows you block an attack if it is timed perfectly to the exact impact of the item.  But jumping can slow you down, unless you know how to do those power slides.  

Finally to prevent snaking I would add a power Slide meter that if it fills too much you will lose control and spin out.  So there is heavy risk with that potential huge reward of a mini turbo boost...which I would make more power.


Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Requiem on July 10, 2007, 01:20:08 PM
But...but....That's how your suppose to drive!

Noone wants a risk/reward situation for driving!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on July 10, 2007, 01:20:46 PM
Love your ideas, always do. We really do want the same things out of this game.

i'd love to be able to hold weapons no the side of your kart i just wouldn't want to have to hold the d-pad.. but i suppose it might be a better method (to use the d-pad) than holding B..

unless after your weapon is engaged you can rotate it around your vehicle using the d-pad and release it by double tapping. For instance:

-hit B for a red shell and it drags behind you as it would normally (when holding the button)
-use the dpad left to move it to that side of the kart. Another kart is approaching no your right..
- hit right on the dpad to switch. Hit it again to fire

of course that could also work by pressing B again after positioning the item with the d-pad

as for items handling differently depending on where you fire.. I have some interesting ideas on how that could work with items like mushrooms and stars as well.. perhaps we should discuss this in pm's so we don't derail this thread even more
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Requiem on July 10, 2007, 01:30:50 PM
DeRaiL IT!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: IceCold on July 10, 2007, 02:29:29 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
So the BBQ is still a possibility?

*grabs fork and knife*

I call the sweet cheek meat!!
I call the butt cheek meet!

Uhh..
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2007, 07:17:25 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
So the BBQ is still a possibility?

*grabs fork and knife*

I call the sweet cheek meat!!
I call the butt cheek meet!

Uhh..

You can't call it right after me, I called it first.
Oh, did you you think I meant face cheek? No that meat is too tough and not sweet at all...... or so I've heard.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2007, 07:18:55 PM
One last update before the Nintendo Press Conference @ 9:00am PST

I thought I would waste some more time and update this list.

07/09/2006
-An Actual Pokemon RPG may be in the works (?)
-A WiiDS connectivity game is in the works (true)
-Lots of side-quest still being added to Zelda: Twilight Princess (true)
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (false)
-Many peripherals are in the works and a Mic may even be added to the Wiimote (true and false)

7/14/2006
If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii (false, it ended up on DS)

07/25/2006
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz) (false)

7/31/2006
Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs? (true, I think)

8/04/2006
Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany (this happened right?)

08/11/2006
- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3 (true)
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch (true)
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday (true, but it wasn't Wii exclusive)

8/15/2006
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo (makes sense)
- Wii could launch @ $199 US (it could have)
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (true?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release (didn't happen)

08/27/2006
-Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii (I've heard no secret)
-The last secret is a Head Mounted Display (false)
-Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD (false)
-Disaster is to release in January 2007 (false)

10/28/2006
-CNN content provider of news contendt for news channel (false)
-Spin the globe to find news stories around the world (true)
-Sega moved most of it develepment from PS3 to Wii over summer (true, but probably not as early as last summer)
-DVD capable Wii for Japan in 2007 (was announced, could still happen)

01/03/2007
-DQ Swords to be a Wii pack-in in 2007 (not gonna happen while Wii is still being sold out)

01/06/2007
-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)
-NiGHTS Wii (true)
-SE & Disney to put KH on Nintendo consoles (lets hope so)

01/09/2007
-SE to sell two franchises (KH & Mana to Disney?) (Most likely false)

01/24/2007
-Nintendo to release Wiimote v2.0 (rubber grips & rechargeable batteries)(False, but 3rd parties have provided those upgrades)

01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (very likely, but we'll see)

01/31/2007
-Konami to announce a "flood" of games for Wii (I wouldn't call it a flood, but it was related to water)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (true)

03/10/2007 technically from 02/25/2007
-EA developing a dancing game for wii that uses a microphone (true)

03/18/2007
-Nintendo to release an external HDD for Wii (waiting for Leipzig..., but rumor just resurfaced by IGN editors on 06/02/2007)

04/09/2007
-Assasins Creed coming to DS & Wii (waiting for Leipzig...)

04/10/2007
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for Leipzig...)
-A Wii Nascar game is being held back to incorporate online capabilities (waiting for Leipzig...)
-Capcom is to revamp an old franchise into the 3D 3rd person realm (waiting for Leipzig...)

04/12/2007
-Sega to make a game that will have you "shaking to beats" this year <Samba De Amigo?> (waiting for Leipzig...)


05/07/2007
-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii (Confirmed 07/18/2007)
-Dreamcast shooter Karous may be headed to Wii  (waiting for Leipzig...)

05/17/2007
-Harmonix & MTV's Rockband coming to Wii (waiting for Leipzig...)

05/26/2007
-Crysis in development for Wii (waiting for Leipzig...)

06/19/2007
-Nintendo to go "3rd party" and produce games for the Apple iPhone (waiting for Leipzig...but not likely to happen)

06/29/2007
-Beautiful Katamari PS3 canned in favor of Beautiful KatamarWii (true)

07/08/2007
-No SSBB for EUR in '07, Mario Kart Wii instead (false. Mario Kart releases WW in '08)

07/10/2007
-Camelot will show off a NEW RPG for Wii @ E3 (Bill is having a "RumorReport" BBQ if false...Leipzig?)

thats not all the rumors, but its most of them.        
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on July 10, 2007, 08:47:11 PM
Quote

01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (very likely, but we'll see)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (was this announced?)


I doubt, in fact highly doubt, new colors will be shown off yet. Only because new colors tend to be used to move more of the product along in its life cycle and Wii still being sold out most of the time still, well it just would be silly for that to happen. It's a possibility though but I doubt it.

And yes, GGXX Accent Core is indeed coming to Wii at the end of July actually =)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Ceric on July 11, 2007, 12:05:30 AM
Your right.  It won't just be new colors but he Wii Lite.  Smaller and Brighter then the original Wii.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 12:11:47 AM
lol! now that would be a sight to see Ceric.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on July 11, 2007, 12:11:47 AM
I just love double posting. ::slams head into a brick wall::
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 15, 2007, 05:32:35 AM
I updated the rumor listing to reflect the fact that minE3 was full of non-info for non-gamers

(waiting for TGS...)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 15, 2007, 05:38:59 AM
-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii (waiting for TGS...)
-Assasins Creed coming to DS & Wii (waiting for TGS...)
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for TGS...)
-A Wii Nascar game is being held back to incorporate online capabilities (waiting for TGS...)
-Harmonix & MTV's Rockband coming to Wii (waiting for TGS...)
-Crysis in development for Wii (waiting for TGS...)


Why would any of this info be revealed at TGS?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 15, 2007, 06:22:10 AM
I have no idea, but it wasn't revealed at minE3 so TGS is the last hope for this year.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: that Baby guy on July 15, 2007, 06:29:47 AM
Wait, who said MK was going to be released WW in '08?  I thought they only said NA would get it in '08.  Are you sure Europe won't get it in '07 (or '09)?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 15, 2007, 06:34:56 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: thatguy
Wait, who said MK was going to be released WW in '08?  I thought they only said NA would get it in '08.  Are you sure Europe won't get it in '07 (or '09)?

It was mentioned during the conference, I updated the rumor list while I was watching it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Requiem on July 15, 2007, 06:54:34 AM
Any rumors on new colors?

I'm still waiting for a black version.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 15, 2007, 08:51:34 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I have no idea, but it wasn't revealed at minE3 so TGS is the last hope for this year.

There's always a chance for info at Leipzig... =)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on July 15, 2007, 09:00:49 AM
I didn't realize Leipzig was on August 20-22, then in September we get TGS? Pretty cool.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 15, 2007, 09:13:57 AM
Uhhh, I think it's August 23-26 this year...Can anyone confirm this?

(Edit: Nope, guess I just had the wrong date down...20-22 it is...)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 15, 2007, 09:40:40 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Requiem
Any rumors on new colors?

I'm still waiting for a black version.

The rumor was that when Nintendo releases the DVD capable Wii it will be black.
That is partially why some of us were waiting for the Black Wii, but we are mostly waiting just because we want one in Black.\
DVD playing capability is just a little bonus.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on July 15, 2007, 09:48:29 AM
I think Nintendo will start making new console colors for Wii once it stops selling out all across America and they can actually catch up to the demand. Then they will release new color to revive sales a bit.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Ceric on July 15, 2007, 11:37:54 AM
Everything is so late and close this year...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 18, 2007, 02:49:03 AM
Another rumor confirmed

05/07/2007
-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii (Confirmed 07/18/2007)  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on July 18, 2007, 09:50:52 AM
Personally, I'm waiting for an orange Wii.  But in the meantime, I have my white one working just fine.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Kairon on July 19, 2007, 09:54:37 AM
Thanks to a comment by Falafelkid in one of his stories... and conveniently reported through GoNintendo...

Manhunt 2 to be allowed by Nintendo DESPITE AO rating?  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on July 19, 2007, 01:51:21 PM
i hate reading the comments over at go nintendo... They seem to have no intellectual skills.

after thinking it over i've come up with my opinion:

Although i don't see this being true, because even with all their safety measures in place, nintendo would not want to receive any sort of backlash from political/religious groups or the media. They know they have a hot system and they don't want to risk ruining that so close to the holiday season. (Yes i know its july but august is almost here and every year retailers prep for the holidays earlier and earlier. Last oct the Halmark store in the mall i worked at had xmas decorations up...). They've done too much to play it safe and be family oriented now more than ever. Its not a bad thing either (cept maybe friend codes) i know i had fun with my mom and sister in wiisports.

i would love for this rumor to be true however. If nintendo wants to be for everyone they should include the adults that would like to play this game. I would love to play this because of all the positive impressions it has gotten from the gaming media, even though i'm not a fan of excessive gore.

think about if it were true for a second. Imagine if they pulled this off very low profile and were able to get it on their system exclusively for even a few months. That would be fantastic!

but again i don't see this happening so i'll stop before i get my hopes up
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Kairon on July 19, 2007, 02:04:37 PM
I'm thinking if Nintendo allows this at all, it'll only be available through their store. That way they can put stringent safety measures to ensure that the people buying the game are the sorts we can expect to be held accountable for their own purchases.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2007, 04:36:36 PM
Its also possible that R* has sweetned the pot since they are now bringing Bully to the Wii. They may also be prepping a GTA IV port for Wii also, and that could be something that would persuade Nintendo into trying to work something out.

Since the whole Manhunt AO debacle, R* has announced Table Tennis and Bully, who's to say that they aren't trying their hardest to get Manhunt released and may soon offer up GTA IV too.

Maybe thats just alot of wishful thinking, but it could happen.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 19, 2007, 04:41:21 PM
Would GTA even be possible on Wii? I think that is a big question as well, we don't know how much horsepower the game takes.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2007, 04:51:52 PM
Compromises can(and will) be made, graphically. But there is no reason that it couldn't be almost exactly the same game with just a few minor graphical downgrades.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Kairon on July 19, 2007, 04:57:42 PM
Probably not. I don't expect GTA 4.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Stogi on July 19, 2007, 05:28:32 PM
I'm going to go ahead and run with the crowd and call this for what it is...

BullSh!t.

First of all, this story derived from an comment from a blog. It's not even from the blog's owner. Furthermore, it's a comment from some dude who supposedly has ties with Nintendo AND Rockster and makes it painfully obvious that he doesn't.

Secondly, why Nintendo? Interesting theory though, BnM.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 19, 2007, 06:01:54 PM
Ok, I just went to the Falafelkid blog, and read the original story
Quote

I have contact to someone who claims to work for NOA in Redmond. That person has told me in confidence that a memo was circulated about two weeks ago about Nintendo publishing ´Manhunt 2´ despite the AO rating.

One thing that I know isn't gonna happen is Nintendo Publishing Manhunt 2 regardless of what anybody may think on the situation. But I'm sure they might let R* publish it on their own.

Another thing to note it that since R* is gonna make Table Tennis for the Wii, it makes all the GTA IV rumors that much more likely since GTA IV is built using the Table Tennis engine. If Table Tennis Wii is using that same engine, then it should be a pretty easy port to move GTA IV on over to the Wii for a full all-console release, even if it arrives a little bit later than the other two versions.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Kairon on July 19, 2007, 06:05:36 PM
Oooh... dare I hope? Dare I dream?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: A Straight Up Trippin' Balls Forum User on July 19, 2007, 06:44:40 PM
GTA was on PS2, so it can't be ported to Wii. Sorry chap, just not enough horsepower. Besides, it doesn't even use DVD discs, and it's not historically the market for the series.

/konami/square
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on July 19, 2007, 07:55:54 PM
What are you talking about?  The Wii is much more powerful than the PS2 and just because the GC was not the market for GTA does not mean the Wii can't be.  The Wii has opened new markets and I wouldn't be suprised if rockstar wants to see how many in this new market would be willing to play their games.

Edit: BTW, absolutely love the avatar.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 20, 2007, 03:25:18 AM
Something else to keep the hopes high;

Since R* is gonna adapt the renderware engine over to Wii for use with Bully, that also makes it possible to port over GTA III, VC, SA, LCS & VCS. But instead of an old port, it could be possible that R* might make a SAS (San Andreas Stories) for Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2007, 03:39:16 AM
If you could get the whole GTA III series in one convenient package. That was just a little more expensive then a regular Wii game.  I think people would go for it.  Even if it only supported the Classic Controller.  Now if they could tie them together somehow as well, put in good Wii Controls, and give the game a little visual bump I think that the game would go over really well.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/08/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 20, 2007, 03:48:35 AM
I'm not sure when GTA IV is supposed to release, but I think it would be best if they released GTA San Andreas Stories first, then maybe did compilation packs later. It would be a big release to have a new made for the Wii version instead of just another port.
Then they could announce the GTA IV port over to Wii to follow the PS3 and 360 versions.

edit: After thinking it over, it might actually be a good idea to release a GTA Wiimake compilation to build a fanbase on the console before releasing a new version.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 20, 2007, 04:22:50 AM
Another Rumor that I just ran across (not sure of the legitimacy) is that R* was to announce 3 games sometime soon after E3.
Table Tennis and Bully are 2 of those 3. What will the 3rd be?

Those two were announced two days in a row, do you think something else will be announced today?
Is all this R* luv the hard work of Reggie or do you think its purely because of the phenomenal sales of the Wii.




Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Kairon on July 20, 2007, 07:11:31 AM
Hey, a "Stories" compilation WOULD be pretty awesome...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: stevey on August 03, 2007, 11:56:40 AM
step 1 steal Nintendo idea
step 2 Sue Nintendo
step 3 ???
step 4 Die
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Ceric on August 03, 2007, 01:45:44 PM
I was always under the impression that Nintendo rolled their own rumble stuff a while back and kept with that.  I hope all companies that just hold patents to sue people will be rounded up and dissolved.

Its one thing to manage and promote something, like the Bluetooth group.  Its another to hold and stagnate an industry.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: that Baby guy on August 03, 2007, 02:01:56 PM
Didn't Nintendo license Immersion technologies in the Wii-mote?  I could have sworn they did this time.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2007, 02:05:00 PM
I've thought Nintendo has always had their own way of doing the rumble, and with team of undead ninja warrior lawyers who never sleep and are always ready for court(and they are starving too), besides I don't think they have ever lost a case in court anyway. So good luck to Immersion if this is even true, but I don't think they have case anyway. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Kairon on August 03, 2007, 07:59:49 PM
Nintendo lost a price fixing case way back in '91. But Immersion can go to hell if this is true. *RAWR*
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: tiamat1990 on August 03, 2007, 08:24:36 PM
Doesn't Nintendo own a bit of Immersion?? I could have sworn I read that somewhere...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Stogi on August 03, 2007, 08:53:39 PM
I could have sworn Nintendo went around there previous case because there rumble system used one unbalanced motor instead of two.

Who knows though, I'm just pull sh!t out of my memory (/ass).
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2007, 02:14:19 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Nintendo lost a price fixing case way back in '91. But Immersion can go to hell if this is true. *RAWR*

But wasn't that loss a win for Nintendo anyway?
Isn't that the case where they had to send out $5 coupons to owners of the NES and then all it did was spur sales of NES games, and this was right before the release of SNES anyway. From what I've read, it seems like even if they couldn't win the case in the court they would turn it into a win in the stores.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 04, 2007, 03:42:41 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: Kairon
Nintendo lost a price fixing case way back in '91. But Immersion can go to hell if this is true. *RAWR*

But wasn't that loss a win for Nintendo anyway?
Isn't that the case where they had to send out $5 coupons to owners of the NES and then all it did was spur sales of NES games, and this was right before the release of SNES anyway. From what I've read, it seems like even if they couldn't win the case in the court they would turn it into a win in the stores.


BlackNMild is, once again, correct =)

A loss was a win for Nintendo in that case.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: stevey on August 04, 2007, 05:46:49 AM
Nintendo patented unbalanced motor(s) in it controllers and Immersion later got a patent for balanced motor in controller. But Immersion could have another patent for use rumble in VG of something dumb like that.

Btw Nintendo has lost they own lawsuit against game genie for hacking their games and the countless lawsuit with their game causing seizers and not having enough warnings about it....
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: bustin98 on August 04, 2007, 06:00:12 AM
Microsoft settled with Immersion out of court and got a piece of the company from the deal.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2007, 06:21:15 AM
MS has since sold that piece of the company back to Immersion after the settlement with Sony was done.
Immersion never had a case against Nintendo, and its likely that they still don't. I'm sure Nintendo did all of their homework before revealing the tech going into the Wiimote and thats why they were waiting for all the proper copyrights, trademarks and registered patents to go through before revealing the Wiimote to begin with.

Besides I'd hate to see Yamauchi rise from the [strike]undead[/strike] retired sector to lead his army of lawyers to battle one last time.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: NeoThunder on August 04, 2007, 07:04:44 AM
Immersion's law suit did not apply to Nintendo.  Only Microsoft and Sony

The infridgement was two motor rumble design that placed the rumble on the sides directly under the palms and used a unbalaced weight on the motor

The GameCube and Wii controller do not use this design

The N64 used a unbalanced weight in the rumble pack but was situated in a different design and location on the controller.

If Nintendo were to enable rumble on VC games using Wiimote rumble or GameCube controller rumble, it would not infrindge on Immersions patent
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: The Omen on August 08, 2007, 05:34:02 AM
 ?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: The Omen on August 08, 2007, 05:39:18 AM
Quote

4/10/2007
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for Leipzig...)


Maybe my contact was correct?  And I might have more info next week sometime.  Lets hope anyway.

"UK studio Free Radical Design has confirmed to CVG that development of TimeSplitters 4 is well underway and anything is possible regarding the platforms it'll launch on.

"Yes, TimeSplitters 4 is happening. At the moment it's in the very early concept stages, and as yet it's unsigned to any publisher," Free Radical Design's screenwriter Rob Yescombe told us.

Regarding a platform it looks like there are no specific exclusive plans although that could change when the game's gets picked up by a publisher. You've got to think that PS3 would be a prim(ate) target given the series' history and success on PS2. "Anything and everything is currently a possibility. We're not saying no to anything," added Yescombe."


So far, so good.  LINKY
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2007, 02:38:35 PM
Another rumor, coming to attention thanks to the NeoGAF forums

Sonic Rider: Zero Gravity coming to Wii and PS2

The only thing is that they link Gamestop.com as the source, but whatever they searched for to find that, its no longer there.
But the real question is, does anybody really care? Was the first game any good?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: stevey on August 11, 2007, 11:23:16 AM
Probably true knowing Sega, I just wish Sega would stop riding sonic /horrible pun for game ideas....

 
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 15, 2007, 02:10:40 AM
DO you guys remember this rumor?
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

06/19/2007
-Nintendo to go "3rd party" and produce games for the Apple iPhone (waiting for Leipzig...but not likely to happen)

Well, something just popped up that is most likely not related to that specific rumor, but instead could have Apple trying to compete with the DS I mean NGage.

Apple's iPhone will go thumb-to-thumb with the Nintendo DS
Quote

Apple is set to use its iPhone take on Nintendo in the video games sector, according to the latest from the industry's rumour mill.

Games have been available on the iPhone since its hugely hyped launch last month.

However, a report in the New York Post today suggests that Apple has its sights firmly set on becoming a significant player in the market for “casual games” exploited by Nintendo’s phenomenally successful Wii and DS devices.

The Post report includes a quote from Kasper Jade, of AppleInsider.com, one of a throng of industry blogs with a track record of revealing forthcoming Apple moves.

“I was told that a major game developer was seeded with iPhone [technology] quite some time ago,” he said.

The newspaper also reported remarks from Peter Rojas, of Engadget, another technology blog, saying that an announcement is expected from Apple soon — “by Macworld [the company's annual convention] in January at the latest”.

A move to make the iPhone into a fully fledged gaming device would put the gadget against a legion of handheld games machines, including the Nintendo DS console and the Sony PSP.


Phone groups have also been exploring gaming, with Nokia, the world’s largest handset maker, poised to launch an updated version of its N-Gage platform this summer.


I know this has nothing to do with the Wii, but it is related to a rumor that is in the Wii rumor thread therefore I thought I should post it here.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: UERD on August 15, 2007, 02:21:05 AM
They're never going to get a significant market for games more complicated than the simple iPod games they have now.

1) It's notoriously hard to compete in the console business. Even harder in the portables business. Look at how many dead or soon to be dead handhelds there are.
2) Developers are looking for volume, not necessarily hardware quality. Unless the iPhone becomes the rip-roaring smash megahit that it currently is not, it'll be difficult to get developers to sign on.
3) If the PSP, with its lower cost, dedicated gaming hardware, and support from a company with experience in games, couldn't unseat the DS, why would Apple be able to do so?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Ceric on August 15, 2007, 02:46:31 AM
I agree with Uerd.  Especially with the cost of the iPhone and the lack of progammability by any none Apple source officially.  I'm assuming they would want to do all this digitally where you download the game which makes less sense because the iPhone has the storage space of an Nano.  I can see them "attempting this" but in the lame way as them saying you can make an app for the phone because it will run in the browser from a site.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 15, 2007, 06:49:58 AM
As much as I love Apple, this will never work/happen.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: The Omen on August 16, 2007, 06:58:45 AM
Add all of the reasons above to Apple having a niche following, and there's no way it would succeed.  And they know this.  Unless they release the Gpod, a gaming dedicated machine, there's absolutely no way it could work.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 16, 2007, 08:38:16 AM
I'd rather see Apple have more games come to it's MAIN computer OS system than the iPhone.

Though I have a PPC so I doubt I would be able to play the games that come out anyway ::sniff::.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: UERD on August 16, 2007, 09:45:15 AM
Well, Starcraft 2 is going to be released for Macs. Isn't that enough?  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 16, 2007, 09:57:50 AM
Well . . . kinda lol. (<3 SC 2)

Though Blizzard has always supported the Mac platform (and I love them for it).
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 16, 2007, 12:23:41 PM
Source: The-MagicBox.com

Quote

- RUMOR: Nintendo is planning to release a Famicom model of Wii and Nintendo DS in Japan, which will have the same color scheme used in the classic 8-bit Famicom console.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 07/19/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 16, 2007, 05:52:52 PM
I don't know about a Famicom Wii, but I would buy this in a heart beat.


Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 16, 2007, 09:25:55 PM
Wow that Wii mock up looks awesome . . .
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2007, 01:20:05 AM
I wish Nintendo would make it happen.
and there is a version that keeps the blue light too.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on August 17, 2007, 01:33:27 AM
it probably wouldnt happen until around their next system launch when wii sales arent as high and they use this to boost the numbers up a tad as a collectors item.

i'd buy it in a heartbeat (even if i already bought a second, black, wii by then)

and i'd probably use it exclusively for VC games just cuz
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2007, 02:05:53 PM
Remember this rumor?

Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

04/12/2007
-Sega to make a game that will have you "shaking to beats" this year <Samba De Amigo?> (waiting for E3...)


Well... according to a NeoGAF member he was looking through the Gamestop release list today and Samba De Amigo was listed as a 2008 release for the Wii.

this image was created in celebration should this rumor actually come true.


p.s. These release list have been pretty accurate in the past, and since this rumor does make sense, that actually likens the chances that its not gonna happen
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on August 17, 2007, 03:14:16 PM
It would be the first SMART release Sega had in well . . . god I can't even remember their last smart release.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: Adrock on August 17, 2007, 04:53:25 PM
Sonic and the Secret Rings gave Sonic some credibility back. It wasn't fantastic, but at least it wasn't punch-a-baby terrible.

And Nights: Journey into Dreams is (going to be) a smart release. I just bought Nights into Dreams on Sega Saturn and Sega would seriously have to go completely out of their way to make a bad sequel to that game. I mean, to the point of ignoring everything that made the original fun and good. The only thing I'm really worried about is what Nights is going to sound like. I'm expecting a female voice because Nights looks awfully effeminate despite the androgynous nature of the character.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/17/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2007, 04:05:32 AM
Kingdom Hearts coming to the Wii!!??
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The latest rumor on the street is that, the wii is going to be getting some Kingdom Hearts loving from its creators. The first ever Kingdom Hearts game will be announced for the Wii at this years Tokyo Game show.

The previous Kingdom Hearts games has been exclusive to the PS2 with a Gameboy version thrown in. The developers have already confirmed the game will be coming for the next gen consoles.


I've been expecting this, so I hope it comes true.
This will probably be followed by a FFXIII announcement at next years E3 too.
Its all falling into place now.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/25/2007)
Post by: LuigiHann on August 25, 2007, 04:13:43 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I don't know about a Famicom Wii, but I would buy this in a heart beat.






Not quite the same, but pretty darn close.

http://www.decalgirl.com/browse.cfm/4,5295.htm
http://www.decalgirl.com/browse.cfm/4,5221.htm
http://www.decalgirl.com/prodimg/retro-wii.jpg

And I have this set, it looks pretty good:
http://www.wiimoteskins.com/online-shop/full_color_skins/classic_nes_theme_wii_remote__nunchuk_skin_set.html
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/25/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on August 25, 2007, 02:10:32 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
As much as I love Apple, this will never work/happen.


Agreed.

I want an iPhone because I want to be able to surf the web and send email from anywhere, not to play silly games which the DS is guaranteed to do a thousand times better.

Besides, these are different markets. If cellphone games haven't unseated the DS, why would iPhone games?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/25/2007)
Post by: MaryJane on August 26, 2007, 04:07:06 AM
Also take into consideration that the iPhone costs $350-$450 more than the DS. The DS's lead is so overwhelming that I was blown away when the Wii sold more units than it last month, and only by a "few".
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 08/25/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 09, 2007, 02:32:52 PM
According to Gaming-Age.com, it appears that the pack in game for the Wii is going to be Link's Crossbow Training.

Lets hope that they are wrong and the pack in game is indeed Duck Hunt, cause then I would even be willing to pay slightly more.
But as far as  "Link's Crossbow Training" is concerned, I don't think I need a Wii Zapper at all if thats what they are using to try and sell it to me.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on September 09, 2007, 02:38:31 PM
Worst tie-in since Mario is Missing CONFIRMED

NeoGAF destroys the future.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on September 09, 2007, 02:47:32 PM
What's wrong with shootin' stuff with a crossbow?  It could be pretty interesting if they had realistic bolt physics like travel time, gravity, and wind.  You could get a feel for the physics shootin' bull's eyes before moving on to shootin' down weird flyin' creatures.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on September 09, 2007, 03:01:48 PM
...wh....what the hell does a crossbow have to do with the Zapper?

It better be duck hunt come on Nintendo . . .  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 09, 2007, 03:15:51 PM
Since when does Link use a crossbow?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Michael8983 on September 09, 2007, 03:26:51 PM
I think it's likely to be a collection of mini-games with this crossbow thing being among them.
There will probably be a Duck Hunt-esque game as well. Also one featuring Mario.
As for Link using a crossbow. Maybe they're going to give him one in the NEXT game. It would be an interesting alternative to the usual bow and arrows.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 09, 2007, 04:29:08 PM
HOGAN'S ALLEY OR DEATH
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Michael8983 on September 09, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
I bet you the week of the Zapper's release we get "Dunk Hunt" and "Hogan's Alley" on the virtual console.
The week after, "Super Scope 6" and " Yoshi's Safari" too.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Kairon on September 09, 2007, 06:27:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Since when does Link use a crossbow?


That's EXACTLY why he needs training.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 09, 2007, 09:43:14 PM
Touché!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: mantidor on September 10, 2007, 12:56:45 AM
Damn double posts
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: mantidor on September 10, 2007, 12:57:37 AM
It's TOO obvious of a joke name, I can't believe this is real. if Nintendo wants to attract the casual crowd they would use "wiisports: archery edition", if they wanted to atract the hardcore, duckhunt would be the obvious choice. It really doesn't make a lot of sense.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 10, 2007, 02:30:33 AM
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Since when does Link use a crossbow?


Since when did Link ever use a Hookshot before LTTP? Since when did Link rode a horse before OOT? Since when did Link turn into a wolf before TP? What's wrong with Link having a slightly different version of an existing item? It's not like they gave Link a nuclear laser mecha suit to wear.

I don't mind 20 bucks for a free game. I'll take it for what it is, a nice little demo to go with my zapper. Although I admit the Wii Zapper doesn't exactly sound like the most well designed "gun" out of all the Nintendo guns from before.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 02:33:51 AM
"Since when did Link ever use a Hookshot before LTTP? Since when did Link rode a horse before OOT? Since when did Link turn into a wolf before TP? What's wrong with Link having a slightly different version of an existing item?"

Since when is a bundled-in spin-off canon?  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on September 10, 2007, 02:47:37 AM
"Since when is a bundled-in spin-off canon?"

Since when did Nintendo make bundled-in spin-offs of ZELDA?  THAT'S my main objection.  The fact that it sounds like a lame idea just adds to it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Pale on September 10, 2007, 03:01:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Since when does Link use a crossbow?


That's EXACTLY why he needs training.

Hah, you stole my joke.  I actually had it typed out and then thought... "maybe I should read the rest of the thread first"... =P  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 10, 2007, 03:06:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
That's EXACTLY why he needs training.


It's a spoiler for the Wii LoZ game, I just know it!

And wouldn't "Cucco Hunt" be awesome?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 10, 2007, 07:37:29 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"Since when did Link ever use a Hookshot before LTTP? Since when did Link rode a horse before OOT? Since when did Link turn into a wolf before TP? What's wrong with Link having a slightly different version of an existing item?"

Since when is a bundled-in spin-off canon?


I don't mind a cross bow being canon. A cross bow actually does fit into the Zelda universe. You guys are acting like Nintendo suddenly made a Zelda game where Link took off his pants and slaps Zelda in the face with his man parts. Or... Link with a gun!
 
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Kairon on September 10, 2007, 07:43:07 AM
Hasn't Zelda used crossbows before? Was that what she used in the Zelda comic in NP?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 10, 2007, 07:45:04 AM
Link also turned into a Wolf in the NP Zelda comics.  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Smoke39 on September 10, 2007, 07:46:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Smash_Brother
And wouldn't "Cucco Hunt" be awesome?

Rather.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on September 10, 2007, 07:57:17 AM
Kotaku Confirms Link is getting his crossbow cert.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/breaking/nintendo-dates-wii-zapper-confirms-links-crossbow-298328.php

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Players assume the identity of hero Link, who progresses through a series of tests to perfect his crossbow marksmanship. Start with stationary bull's-eyes and graduate to moving targets before defending Link against all kinds of enemies.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 10, 2007, 08:01:27 AM
Cool, I just might pick up the Wii Zapper just for this game. Hopefully, it'll be as deep as the fishing game in TP. It's sad that a side game is better than all the other full fledge fishing games on the Wii.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: LuigiHann on September 10, 2007, 08:15:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Since when is a bundled-in spin-off canon?"

Since when did Nintendo make bundled-in spin-offs of ZELDA?


Since 4 Swords for GBA, I suppose.

The odd 2-Handed design of the Wii Zapper actually makes a little bit of sense if I think of it as a crossbow.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 08:21:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
I don't mind a cross bow being canon. A cross bow actually does fit into the Zelda universe. You guys are acting like Nintendo suddenly made a Zelda game where Link took off his pants and slaps Zelda in the face with his man parts. Or... Link with a gun!

Well, I just find it sort of weird that Link would get a new item in a non-main-quest game...Not to say I'm complaining, because I'll be getting it anyway! =D
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 10, 2007, 08:30:27 AM
To me, when I heard it's starring Link, I immediately imagined a game with beautiful scenery and Link out hunting. I'm a nature kind of guy. Of course this is just my vision, and I could end up being very disappointed. At least this tech demo will look pretty since it uses the TP engine.

It's true! Nintendo's Official Press Release!

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NINTENDO'S NEW WII ZAPPER TARGETS FUN

First Wii Game-Play Accessory Comes Packaged with Zelda Software

REDMOND, Wash., Sept. 10, 2007 - Nintendo announced today that the Wii Zapper™ interface for the hit Wii™ home video game system will come packed with Link's Crossbow Training™. The software is based on the hugely popular Legend of Zelda® series and provides a perfect demonstration of the way the Wii Zapper could be used in other games. The Wii Zapper casing houses both the motion-sensitive Wii Remote™ and Nunchuk™ controllers in a single unit for precision targeting. It goes on sale Nov. 19 at an MSRP of just $19.99.

"The Wii Zapper combines our remarkable controllers into one housing with a classic style reminiscent of arcade-style games," says George Harrison, Nintendo of America's senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications. "Both veteran and first-time players will find it brings a whole new dimension to games where targeting is key and provides even more exciting game-play experiences."

Link's Crossbow Training drops players into a world in the style of The Legend of Zelda®: Twilight Princess. Players assume the identity of hero Link, who progresses through a series of tests to perfect his crossbow marksmanship. Start with stationary bull's-eyes and graduate to moving targets before defending Link against all kinds of enemies.

Third-party publishers have lined up to support the Wii Zapper. EA's Medal of Honor Heroes™ 2 lets players take World War II into their hands with the Wii Zapper. The game features an all-new Wii-exclusive Arcade Mode that offers accessibility to gamers of all skill levels, a full single-player campaign and support for up to 32 players in multiplayer. Capcom's Resident Evil®: The Umbrella Chronicles reveals the back story behind the fall of the Umbrella Corporation by exploring locations from Resident Evil 0, 1, 2 and 3, as well as new never-before-seen locations like Umbrella's stronghold. One or two players use the Wii Zapper to take aim against a horde of zombies in first-person perspective. SEGA's Ghost Squad™ lets players replicate the arcade light-gun experience at home with the Wii Zapper.

Remember that Wii features parental controls that let adults manage the content their children can access. For more information about this and other Wii features, visit Wii.com.

The worldwide innovator in the creation of interactive entertainment, Nintendo Co., Ltd., of Kyoto, Japan, manufactures and markets hardware and software for its Wii™, Nintendo DS™, Game Boy® Advance and Nintendo GameCube™ systems. Since 1983, Nintendo has sold nearly 2.4 billion video games and more than 420 million hardware units globally, and has created industry icons like Mario™, Donkey Kong®, Metroid®, Zelda™ and Pokémon®. A wholly owned subsidiary, Nintendo of America Inc., based in Redmond, Wash., serves as headquarters for Nintendo's operations in the Western Hemisphere. For more information about Nintendo, visit the company's Web site at www.nintendo.com.

EA and Medal of Honor Heroes 2 are trademarks or registered trademarks of Electronic Arts Inc. in the U.S. and/or other countries.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 08:38:44 AM
I do wonder if Aonuma's Zelda team is behind this, or someone else...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Luigi Dude on September 10, 2007, 08:40:11 AM
Well considering it's a FREE game that comes with the $20 Zapper, I don't see the problem with this.  Now if it was a $50 game that you bought seperate, that would be an outrage.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 10, 2007, 08:52:59 AM
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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
Well considering it's a FREE game that comes with the $20 Zapper, I don't see the problem with this.  Now if it was a $50 game that you bought seperate, that would be an outrage.


You you can look at it as a free useless plastic packed with a little game.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 10, 2007, 09:08:45 AM
Horrible products.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Sir_Stabbalot on September 10, 2007, 09:21:59 AM
I always liked crossbows. They have more armor piercing power and are easier to learn how to use then normal bows.

But all bows are for sissies. Magic's cooler, but still sissy. I liked close combat more as there's more blood like one time I was fighting a dwarf and he made me run and then I pushed a boulder at him and his stubby little legs couldn't run fast enough so he went squish and I jumped up and down in the puddle and laughed.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on September 10, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
"Well, I just find it sort of weird that Link would get a new item in a non-main-quest game"

To me putting the crossbow in a "real" Zelda game would be like when they put Krystal in the main Star Fox games.  I found it really annoying that something in the main series was introduced in a spin-off.  It doesn't help that the spin-off sucked and all the Star Fox games since then have also sucked.  It might just be a coincedence though.  Quality does make a difference I guess and a crossbow is generic enough that one could have showed up eventually anyway.

Still when I'm playing a game in a series I like to forget about any shortcomings the series has had in the past so putting spin-off stuff that could easily be excluded from the main series in ruins that.  Again though if the game rules it probably won't matter.  But I REALLY don't like Nintendo's endless spin-off mania.  Not only is it hypocritical as hell for them to be always talking about innovation when they whore everything out but it dilutes the franchises and makes the series less special.  IP's are usually hurt by too much product, especially when it's blatant money-grab product and spin-offs of main series often fit that criteria.

No one gives a sh!t about Mega Man or Bomberman games anymore.  Those games might still sell but no one looks back and reflects fondly on a GBA Bomberman because so many games have been released for that IP that at some point they all just blended into each other.  Mario is at the point where if they annouce any Mario game that isn't a platformer I just don't get excited because we get tons of Mario spin-offs ever year.  They're not special or unique.  I don't want that for Zelda or Metroid though they've already crossed the spin-off bridge now with both of them.

When a company starts thinking in a way where they think of a game idea and then try to figure out how to put their existing IP into that concept, there's a problem.  It's all just corporate product then.  Nintendo could have kickstarted a NEW IP with the zapper or resurected a long dormant one that fit the concept like Duck Hunt or Battleclash.  Instead let's just find a way to get that Link character on the box and get some sales out of that.  I know this is all a business but there's a way to be less obvious about it.  Pretend Zelda is more than a brand to milk and that's how you get people to truly care about it.  The proof is in how people care about Zelda now, as it hasn't been milked to all hell...yet.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: mantidor on September 10, 2007, 10:24:48 AM
omg, Nintendo gone crazy... I still can't believe is true, what kind of audience would get this? I guess Nintendo is making some sort of joke statement with this, like "the hardcore" gamers have to get a game with "training" in the title... I would have prefered duck hunt, or even a Zombie minigame made by Capcom, Zelda really isn't about shooting so it just looks like plain milking of the franchise, and a zapper doesn't fit at all, or maybe they will sell separately some crossbow attachment?

And who really cares if it s a crossbow? its not like it would made a huge difference gameplay-wise.

EDIT: I can't wait for screenshots, maybe it would give us a hint on the future art direction of the Zelda wii game, hopefully...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Deguello on September 10, 2007, 11:23:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Nothing new from Ian.


So noted.

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When a company starts thinking in a way where they think of a game idea and then try to figure out how to put their existing IP into that concept, there's a problem. It's all just corporate product then.


So like, when they had an idea for a 2-D platformer in 1985 and decided to use their existing Mario Bros. IP, that was a problem?  Can't wait to see the paragraphs of damage control for this.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Darkheart on September 10, 2007, 11:30:20 AM
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Originally posted by: Deguello
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Nothing new from Ian.


So noted.

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When a company starts thinking in a way where they think of a game idea and then try to figure out how to put their existing IP into that concept, there's a problem. It's all just corporate product then.


So like, when they had an idea for a 2-D platformer in 1985 and decided to use their existing Mario Bros. IP, that was a problem?  Can't wait to see the paragraphs of damage control for this.


QFT

What do you think Nintendo does with their hardware.  Oh look at me Im Nintendo and I just created the N64, I have now made the analog stick. Zelda has never been in 3d before and will never use the analog stick that is such a gimmick.  

I created the Wii now and have true 3-d motion capabilities but I still have a D pad therefore all the games I make will use the D-pad!

I R NINTENDO I USE MI TECHNOWL0GEES FOR ST00PID RE4SONZ!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Adrock on September 10, 2007, 11:51:58 AM
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EDIT: I can't wait for screenshots, maybe it would give us a hint on the future art direction of the Zelda wii game, hopefully...

I think it's supposed to use Twilight Princess' art design.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 10, 2007, 11:56:03 AM
I have a feeling that the next Zelda game will expand on Twilight Princess' style (and perhaps the same characters!)...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: 31 Flavas on September 10, 2007, 12:12:40 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane[...]

No one gives a sh!t about Mega Man or Bomberman games anymore.  Those games might still sell but no one looks back and reflects fondly on a GBA Bomberman because so many games have been released for that IP that at some point they all just blended into each other.
Really, you think noone cares about Mega Man or Bomberman anymore? For shame Ian.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: MLS_man_64 on September 10, 2007, 01:25:21 PM
Well, far less than they did in the NES era.  Back then every Mega Man was a big game.  Now we get six a year in a slow year  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 10, 2007, 01:29:36 PM
Nintendo fans will truly make an issue out of anything...I honestly don't understand what the fuzz is over the Wii zapper game. Its not like we are getting a second game of Zelda CD-i games or somethings. Jeez!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on September 10, 2007, 02:05:48 PM
It's just sad Pap that they have to try and milk the Zelda franchise as opposed to including a full scale remake of Duck Hunt which would have made perfect sense for such a peripheral.

And with the Zapper name . . . I . . . it . . . I mean it was just too perfect.

But alas. It's not the most disappointing thing ever to me but I'm with the "why Zelda?" crowd. . . if there is one.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Kairon on September 10, 2007, 02:16:31 PM
That's not sad. An updated Duck Hunt would be sad. Wii Play's was and I really have no idea what they could do differently from that game if they were to release a duck hunt for it. I welcome this new gaming effort from Nintendo with open arms!!!

Also, if they're re-using the TP engine for it, it'd be uber awesome. Easily developed, but a beautiful set-up to wow non-gamers, entertain casuals, and keep the hardcore at bay.

And though this probably won't be any sort of Zelda revelation... it'd make for an awesome tiny little sidequest to TP's story! They could even introduce new characters!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Mario on September 10, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
Plus let's face it, the Zelda franchise is dying in popularity. This will no doubt help it get some more fans.
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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane[...]

No one gives a sh!t about Mega Man or Bomberman games anymore.  Those games might still sell but no one looks back and reflects fondly on a GBA Bomberman because so many games have been released for that IP that at some point they all just blended into each other.
Really, you think noone cares about Mega Man or Bomberman anymore? For shame Ian.



The difference is that most Megaman and pretty much all Bomberman games are exactly the same. People dont like to buy the same game over and over. These are COMPLETELY different.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: IceCold on September 10, 2007, 04:02:44 PM
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It doesn't help that the spin-off sucked and all the Star Fox games since then have also sucked.
Hey, hey hey.. Command was actually pretty good..
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That's not sad. An updated Duck Hunt would be sad. Wii Play's was and I really have no idea what they could do differently from that game if they were to release a duck hunt for it.
Hey, hey, hey.. That minigame has the best first person controls on the Wii, bar none.. I got 713 points! I R hardcore!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 10, 2007, 05:48:09 PM
Incorrect, RE4 does.  RE4 is slightly more responsive.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Adrock on September 10, 2007, 06:08:50 PM
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Easily developed, but a beautiful set-up to wow non-gamers, entertain casuals, and keep the hardcore at bay.

Wow non-gamers with Zelda? Can't say I agree with that. An updated Duck Hunt probably would've sold well almost entirely on nostalgia alone. Of course, Duck Hunt and Link's Crossbow Training on the same disc would've made the package more appealing by upping the value and targeting a wider audience.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: anubis6789 on September 10, 2007, 07:27:29 PM
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Originally posted by: IceCold
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It doesn't help that the spin-off sucked and all the Star Fox games since then have also sucked.
Hey, hey hey.. Command was actually pretty good..


Thanks Ice Cold, if you had not said it I would have.

I do find it strange that they are using Zelda for this though. It just sounds like it was thought up in the same meeting as the DS, which admittedly was a completely strange and unexpected concept for me when it first was shown, but it turned out great.

As far as Link ever using firearms, I would not mind really, as long as none of the guns were even semi-auto, that would kind of kill it for me. If you think about it, Hyrule already has gunpowder, what with bombs and cannons, so it is not that far of a stretch that they would have some sort of firearms. The designers also keep skirting the Western (as in Cowboys) theme, which is most prevalent in TP so that may end up being one of the next evolutionary steps in the Zelda series, kind of like how Metroid has, in my opinion, moved towards a more fantasy-esque setting then the originals (for example:Bryyo was partially destroyed by Magic ).
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Mario on September 11, 2007, 12:34:51 AM
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An updated Duck Hunt probably would've sold well almost entirely on nostalgia alone.

Yeah I think its done a couple of million sales worldwide already
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Strell on September 11, 2007, 01:08:14 AM
We don't know sh*t about the game, and already everyone has decided it's worthless.

Try a different tampon, people.  Like maybe a bigger one.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on September 11, 2007, 04:34:49 AM
the real reason nintendo didnt release Duck Hunt 2 with the wii zapper:

lots of those new non-gamers/casuals are PETA loving P**sy types that would hate on nintendo for promoting cruilty towards animals. if this helps get pam anderson shaking a wiimote in an experience video (in slow motion to boot) then its all WIN.

/joke


i can see where some of the hate is coming from but, like strell said you dont know sh*t about the game so you're a stupid elite fanboy for dismissing it right away

not so fast for the rest of you, because automatically loving it is just as fanboyish.

I personally won't accuse nintendo of milking the Zelda series until i see how the game is, and that doesnt just mean screenshots or vids either. i want to play it for myself and see if its any good. if its something like the Can Shooter game in WW:SM (ie screen - press start - play - game  over), thats when i'll start to worry. But if it delivers something more than i won't start to worry about seeing a Zelda Monopoly or trivial pursuit mini game compilation in the future.

as for the crossbow hate, c'mon.. is that really such a big deal? crossbows arent something that would'nt fit in the midieval-type Zelda universe. Its not like its a laser gun, rocket launcher, or a pistol/rifle. Their not turning this into Grand Theft Epona guys... geez
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on September 11, 2007, 05:06:25 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: EasyCure
lots of those new non-gamers/casuals are PETA loving P**sy types that would hate on nintendo for promoting cruilty towards animals. if this helps get pam anderson shaking a wiimote in an experience video (in slow motion to boot) then its all WIN.


I hadn't even considered that until now, but it actually makes the most sense.

Back when the NES and the zapper first released, animal cruelty wasn't as big of a deal. Nowadays, a game which promotes the shooting of animals and is perceived to sell to children would cause a goddamn ruckus the likes of which Nintendo could do without.

I know everyone loves duckhunt, but I think the brief cameos of the ducks in Wii Play is the extent of what we'll be getting.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on September 11, 2007, 05:47:21 AM
the sad part is i was joking, even though in my heart i know that our world really has become so PC that a game about hunting is considered wicked..
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: LuigiHann on September 11, 2007, 07:51:18 AM
If someone else has pointed this out, then I apologize, but I think the real reason is pretty obvious:

Why would Nintendo give you a free, updated Duck Hunt, when they can (and will) sell you the original Duck Hunt for 5 bucks? Nintendo's not bundling Duck Hunt with the Zapper because everyone who's going to buy the Zapper is gonna buy Duck Hunt anyway. And the reason Nintendo's not making a new Duck Hunt is because that would only discourage people from buying the old Duck Hunt.

I can't be the only one who came to that conclusion, right?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Strell on September 11, 2007, 07:53:41 AM
That depends.  Is Nintendo going to somehow make the Zapper compatible with NES games?

I was under the impression they didn't want to do such things.  Besides, the emulator would have to be re-written to take advantage of the Wiimote's IR capability, and I just keep seeing Nintendo as too lazy to do that.

That is, of course, unless I completely missed the part where they said they'd do all of that.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: IceCold on September 11, 2007, 08:48:17 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Incorrect, RE4 does.  RE4 is slightly more responsive.
RE4 is third person. And still, after playing it, I find WiiPlay more intuitive..
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 14, 2007, 01:44:24 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: EasyCure
the sad part is i was joking, even though in my heart i know that our world really has become so PC that a game about hunting is considered wicked..


Truth, and I think it is really just a matter of time before effort is made to ban hunting entirely. It isn't as popular a past time as it once was, and there is getting to be less and less places to actually hunt anymore thanks to development.

Back in 1985 (or whatever Duck Hunt came out) hunting was far more popular than it is now. I don't know if PETA even existed back then...

And the version bundled with Wii Play isn't the same as the original. It should have had that dog in it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 14, 2007, 04:53:06 AM
If a Wii Hard Drive Rumor has not been created yet.  I am creating one now.

Right now the Wii is about to get 2 new VC systems that will require massive storage space to play the games.  This means that the Wii's little internal memory is just not going to be enough.  Aparrantly I am not the only person who agrees.  Matt over at IGN has commented he believes it is coming and it is only a matter of time.  

So this rumor is to address that issue...and I believe an announcement will be made soon about the product.  It could even be a part of the supposed September announcement.  Here is the reason I believe this is coming.  Both Neo Geo games and Turbo Graphics CD games are announced for next month releases.  And recently the NEO GEO Japanese releases were delayed.  Perhaps this delay was to in fact better time these product releases with a Hard Drive release.  Or even possibly a Wii Update release to allow games to be played off SD card, but I really doubt the latter.  

So let the rumor spread...when will this necessity finally be revealed?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: UERD on September 14, 2007, 07:04:26 AM
Nintendo seriously considering Wii demo channel?

link
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 14, 2007, 08:59:00 AM
I wonder if VC games will start being sold on discs instead of just being downloaded. Storage capacity is just one concern with these mega large games; bandwidth is the other concern. Seems that things take too long to download from the VC already... can you imagine CD sized games comprising 600-700 MB?

Plus many people don't have broadband anyway.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 14, 2007, 11:33:00 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: IceCold
Quote

Originally posted by: Professional 666
Incorrect, RE4 does.  RE4 is slightly more responsive.
RE4 is third person. And still, after playing it, I find WiiPlay more intuitive..


Stop playing kids games.  The targets are gigantic to accommodate non-gamers.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 15, 2007, 03:37:53 AM
The rumor has been around
Quote

03/18/2007
-Nintendo to release an external HDD for Wii (waiting for TGS..., but rumor just resurfaced by IGN editors on 06/02/2007)
 
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Ghisy on September 15, 2007, 05:19:21 AM
Nintendo should release a 16 or 32 GB SSD for the Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Adrock on September 15, 2007, 07:19:18 AM
Quote

I wonder if VC games will start being sold on discs instead of just being downloaded. Storage capacity is just one concern with these mega large games; bandwidth is the other concern. Seems that things take too long to download from the VC already... can you imagine CD sized games comprising 600-700 MB?

Probably won't happen, but I'd love it if it did. I like having hard copies of my games and I'm a sucker for compilations.

A hard drive is probably more likely.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 15, 2007, 09:47:36 AM
They better release a freaking harddrive! I need it for all those Neo Geo and Turbo Duo games!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 15, 2007, 12:14:37 PM
One more update before TGS (whenever that may be)

This is mostly rumors from just the last 12 months.

10/28/2006
-DVD capable Wii for Japan in 2007 (was announced, could still happen for 2008)

01/03/2007
-DQ Swords to be a Wii pack-in in 2007 (false)

01/06/2007
-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)
-NiGHTS Wii (true)
-SE & Disney to put KH on Nintendo consoles (lets hope so)

01/09/2007
-SE to sell two franchises (KH & Mana to Disney?) (Most likely false)

01/24/2007
-Nintendo to release Wiimote v2.0 (rubber grips & rechargeable batteries)(False, but 3rd parties have provided those upgrades)

01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (not very likely, but we'll see. Maybe in '08)

01/31/2007
-Konami to announce a "flood" of games for Wii (I wouldn't call it a flood, but it was related to water)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (true)

03/10/2007 technically from 02/25/2007
-EA developing a dancing game for wii that uses a microphone (true)

03/18/2007
-Nintendo to release an external HDD for Wii (waiting for TGS..., but rumor just resurfaced by IGN editors on 06/02/2007)

04/09/2007
-Assasins Creed coming to DS & Wii (waiting for TGS...)

04/10/2007
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for TGS...)
-A Wii Nascar game is being held back to incorporate online capabilities (waiting for TGS...)
-Capcom is to revamp an old franchise into the 3D 3rd person realm (waiting for TGS...)

04/12/2007
-Sega to make a game that will have you "shaking to beats" this year <Samba De Amigo!> (true)

05/07/2007
-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii (Confirmed 07/18/2007)
-Dreamcast shooter Karous may be headed to Wii  (waiting for TGS...)

05/17/2007
-Harmonix & MTV's Rockband coming to Wii (mentioned, but not confirmed...)

05/26/2007
-Crysis in development for Wii (waiting for TGS...)

06/19/2007
-Nintendo to go "3rd party" and produce games for the Apple iPhone (not gonna happen)

06/29/2007
-Beautiful Katamari PS3 canned in favor of Beautiful KatamarWii (true)

07/08/2007
-No SSBB for EUR in '07, Mario Kart Wii instead (true & false. Mario Kart releases WW in '08)

07/10/2007
-Camelot will show off a NEW RPG for Wii(Bill is having a "RumorReport" BBQ if false...TGS?)

09/09/2007

According to Gaming-Age.com, the Wii Zapper pack-in game is Link's Crossbow Training. (true)

09/15/2007
-Nintendo to have a Fall Conference on 10/10/2007 (waiting for 10/10/2007...)

thats not all the rumors, but its most of them from he last 12 months.

       
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 15, 2007, 12:37:29 PM
Might as well add the rumour that there's a Ninty conference coming on October 10th...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 15, 2007, 02:02:15 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Might as well add the rumour that there's a Ninty conference coming on October 10th...


Who said that and when? Just so that I can date it and place it on the list accordingly.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 15, 2007, 02:04:14 PM
Link

Original source is Gamefront.de
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/09/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 15, 2007, 02:41:57 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Link

Original source is Gamefront.de
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Is Nintendo planning a 'Nintendo Autumn Conference 2007'?

According to reports of japanese wholesale dealers Nintendo will hold the 'NAC 2007' on 10.10.07 in Tokyo. There should be several announcements, unveilings and a presentation of the upcoming lineup.

Nintendo has neither confirmed nor officially announced this conference.


How Bill's original post should have looked ^^^
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: Stogi on September 17, 2007, 02:03:44 AM
When is TGS?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 17, 2007, 02:43:19 AM
Quote

-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)


Umm... what does that mean? They say 2 parts as in there are 2 games? Because the Wii version is just that, part 2 of Fire Emblem POR. Now if they're saying FE10 is split into two parts, I agree, it's false. Fire Emblem is actually split into 4 parts.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: Crimm on September 17, 2007, 02:48:37 AM
TGS: 9/20 - 9/23
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 17, 2007, 03:42:08 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
Quote

-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)


Umm... what does that mean? They say 2 parts as in there are 2 games? Because the Wii version is just that, part 2 of Fire Emblem POR. Now if they're saying FE10 is split into two parts, I agree, it's false. Fire Emblem is actually split into 4 parts.

I'm not 100% sure what was meant by "2 parts", but I didn't see anything where it was released as a Part 1 & Part 2 so I marked it as false. If you interpret it some other way that makes more sense, please explain and I will gladly change it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: decoyman on September 18, 2007, 01:58:55 PM
If I remember right, the rumor said that it would be two parts in that it would include the original gamecube game as the first part since they're connected, right? Ol' Sothie-boy and what's-her-face... then it would continue with the next game. Hence, two parts. I'm 99% sure it turned out to be false... I mean, the game's been out in Japan for awhile, right?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 18, 2007, 11:18:33 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Quote

Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
Quote

-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)


Umm... what does that mean? They say 2 parts as in there are 2 games? Because the Wii version is just that, part 2 of Fire Emblem POR. Now if they're saying FE10 is split into two parts, I agree, it's false. Fire Emblem is actually split into 4 parts.

I'm not 100% sure what was meant by "2 parts", but I didn't see anything where it was released as a Part 1 & Part 2 so I marked it as false. If you interpret it some other way that makes more sense, please explain and I will gladly change it.


It's simple. The game is split into 4 parts. Each part focuses on a different main character. The final part unites all the forces together into one.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2007, 01:34:34 AM
so that would still make it false since FE is 4 parts right?
Or is there 2 parts coming to Wii? Cause I've only seen one FE game so far.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on September 19, 2007, 06:43:02 AM
That is correct. It's still false. When it was revealed the game would have 2 parts, that was kind of correct, but it turned out to have far more than just 2 parts. The 2 parts was partly true.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/15/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2007, 09:05:32 AM
Remeber all of this?
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1 Aug, . 15th 2007
Remember this rumor?

Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

04/12/2007
-Sega to make a game that will have you "shaking to beats" this year <Samba De Amigo?> (waiting for E3...)


Well... according to a NeoGAF member he was looking through the Gamestop release list today and Samba De Amigo was listed as a 2008 release for the Wii.

this image was created in celebration should this rumor actually come true.


p.s. These release list have been pretty accurate in the past, and since this rumor does make sense, that actually likens the chances that its not gonna happen

Rumor has it that this game has been officially announced through Nintendo Power (and everyone says they never have exclusives)

Here is the supposed text from the latest magazine
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“Long before Guitar Hero took the world by storm, cult classic Samba de Amigo (For Dreamcast and arcades) was helping gamers connect with the inner musicians. Players would shake a pair of plastic maracas (and occasionally strike a pose) as a sombero-wearing monkey and other bits of assorted madness danced around the screen. If that sounds like a perfect fit for Wii, Sega agrees; the publisher will bring a new installment in the series to Nintendo’s console sometime next year. Detailes are scarse, but you’ll shake the Wii remote and nunchuk as you would the maracas (naturally), and the soundtrack will feature a mix of new and classic tunes. Surprisingly, the developer on the title is Gearbox Software, best known for its work on the acclaimed Brothers in Arms franchise.”
 
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 23, 2007, 09:12:10 AM
Its been confirmed.

Here's the cover.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2007, 09:13:41 AM
nice, why was there no thread on it?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: IceCold on September 23, 2007, 10:12:33 AM
Okay, well..

NiGHTS - check
Samba de Amigo - check

Panzer Dragoon - NO
Lightgun games - NO
Arcade racers - NO

I especially want Panzer Dragoon - even though Sega has deteriorated badly in the last few years, PD Orta still got great reviews across the board for Xbox, and it would be amazing with the Wii controller.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 23, 2007, 10:13:53 AM
Ghost Squad doesn't count?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on September 23, 2007, 10:54:35 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
nice, why was there no thread on it?


I made a thread detailing how Samba would be a logical choice for the system.

Its great that its been finally confirmed. But I am curious as to how it will play...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: bustin98 on September 25, 2007, 02:14:24 PM
Time to add the rumor of Viva Pinata: Party Animals heading to the Wii. (Via the 1Up Quarterman)

I'd much rather see the original or even an update to the original than another party game. But if there is connectivity between the DS version and the Wii then maybe it could have some interesting ideas.

I think its a slim to none chance of seeing Viva Pinata on the Wii in any form. Its Microsoft's attempt to woo the casual gamer. Though displaying the Microsoft logo in front of the Wii's casual audience could be a sneak attack that works in their favor.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: Michael8983 on September 25, 2007, 10:46:21 PM
I could see it happening. Sony is still MS's real enemy as they're competing for the traditional market with similar consoles. The Wii, on the other hand, is in a whole other universe. Almost as much so as the DS which MS had no problem with Rare developing for. Besides, MS just cares about making money, and if it thinks a quick port of Viva on the Wii will actually earn it some profit from the bad deal it made so many years ago when it paid a mint for Rare, it will happen.

 
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/23/2007)
Post by: couchmonkey on September 26, 2007, 01:21:15 AM
I have cleared my mind for a day on the subject of Viva Pinata, and I think it might actually be a good idea.

On the one hand, I believe Microsoft is being very naive if they don't consider Wii to be part of the competition.  On the other hand, it's too late now to really compete with Wii on Wii terms...360 is never going to be a serious competitor to Wii, so instead why not try to harness it as an advertising tool?  In the short run it might dissuade a few old-time Rare fans like myself from buying a 360, but in the long run it could really expand Viva Pinata's brand awareness.  How many times have we argued that this game would sell way better on Wii?

Which brings up one more point - it could be a real goldmine for MS Game Studios.  How's that profitability coming, guys?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Rhoq on September 26, 2007, 07:26:26 AM
RumorReporter.com is suggesting that the "big announcement" on G4's Attack Of The Show tomorrow night could be an in-studio appearance by Reggie to deliver the promised Wii September Surprise, or a G4-exclusive announcement of the 40GB PS3.

I personally, think it will be neither as they are touting this announcement as something that will effect the future of G4.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Adrock on September 26, 2007, 07:38:57 AM
I thought it was supposed to be the biggest announcement in G4 history. It could be videogames related, but either way, it probably won't be that earth shattering since they're hyping it up so much.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Kairon on September 26, 2007, 07:47:46 AM
Microsoft is buying them and renaming them to "Games for Windows and XBox 360?"
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on September 26, 2007, 07:48:18 AM
Maybe the big announcement is G4 is changing its channel format to SpikeTV/VH1/E!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Strell on September 26, 2007, 08:09:09 AM
Maybe the big news is that they are shutting down, and no one has to suffer that nonsense anymore.

In fact, I will be disappointed if this is not the announcement.

If they could take Uwe Boll with 'em, that'd be great too.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Rhoq on September 26, 2007, 10:50:02 AM
It's not like Comcast to just give up (they own G4). I think another format change might be in the works (and probably a renaming). Comcast wants to compete directly with Viacom (Spike, MTV, VH-1, etc.)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Rhoq on September 26, 2007, 11:37:28 PM
I caught a few minutes of AoTS last night at the end, Olivia Munn delivered a hint, which to me sounds very likely to be indicative of a Wii announcement tonight...

She said something along the lines of: "This will be something that all of America will enjoy, even my grandmother." Which, to me, falls into Nintendo's broad demo that the Wii is attracting.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 27, 2007, 12:55:19 AM
It's Olivia announcing that she's going to do porn. The only format change that would be good, would be to dump all of the G4 douchebags, and make it TechTV again, which was a much, much better channel.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 27, 2007, 01:21:26 AM
I think TechTV although it may have been a better television, doesn't have the young appeal that G4 has to bring in the MTV crowd.

Really, G4 is doing some things well and somethings horrible.  

They do have programing that is interesting and better cheap to produce.

Attack of the Show
X Play  

The problem with both of these shows is that every personality is freaking annoying and uninteresting.  They need better hosts for all their shows.

Then they have some cool stuff on air that really is a place for geek heaven.

Star Trek Next Generation,
Ninja Warrior
That Cinema Game show that cuts gameplay footage montages is cool.

What G4 needs is better hosts, and better use of their shows.  Attack of the Show is interesting, but why not push the limit with the show and either create a 2 hour show, OR break the show into smaller shows so you can get more information out.

Personally, I hope this is a Wii announcement, because I have been waiting for something cool to be announced for Wii...but that doesn't sound like a big announcement to me.  Unless it is part of a bigger announcement, or they just over hyped everything.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2007, 01:25:42 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Rhoq
She said something along the lines of: "This will be something that all of America will enjoy, even my grandmother." Which, to me, falls into Nintendo's broad demo that the Wii is attracting.

Or just G4 overestimating their appeal... =)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 27, 2007, 02:05:19 AM
I hate the "MTV crowd", I'm not part of that audience, which is why I used to enjoy TechTV. G4 absolutely needs to drop crap like Cheaters, the Man Show, Ninja Warrior, Star Trek, COPS, etc - all of those shows have absolutely NOTHING to do with gaming. Bring back Leo and Patrick, bring back Martin Seargant, bring back Kevin Rose - the guy showed the world how to mod their XBox on national TV, he deserves to be on the channel forever.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 27, 2007, 04:16:05 AM
We have to keep Ninja Warrior that show is the new "Iron Chef"  Not like the Iron Chef America that is also pretty good.

But Ninja Warrior is a legit show that is greatly entertaining on its own merit, but grows to hugely entertaining when you add the cheesy voice overs and descriptions of the contestants...just like the original Iron Chef was great for its wacky translations and voice work, but the show was still brilliant.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 27, 2007, 09:12:39 AM
Don't get me wrong, Ninja Warrior is awesome, though MXC is funnier because people get hurt, and it's more "Japanese", it just belongs on another channel. Bring back Call for Help, the Screen Savers (which is actually AOTS now), etc.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 27, 2007, 12:52:23 PM
So did anyone watch the show and see their announcement?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2007, 12:58:40 PM
It was canceled...

No, seriously...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 27, 2007, 01:13:46 PM
Canceled?

As in the announcement was canceled, or the show AOTS, or the entire network?

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2007, 02:12:15 PM
Aha, apparently they weren't given clearance to announce whatever they have, which is a pretty huge blunder on their part...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Adrock on September 27, 2007, 03:25:50 PM
Why didn't they get clearance BEFORE acting like it was the biggest thing ever? I don't know, it just seems like one of those things that you'd make sure of first.

More like biggest cock tease ever........
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Crimm on September 27, 2007, 05:47:43 PM
The kind of fail one expects when dealing with a network whose primary hiring logic is as follows:

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 27, 2007, 10:27:54 PM
Crimm I love your flowchart.  I can actually see a manager shuffling papers trying to hide the "formula" while interviewing people...asking important questions like:

Mr. Smith, have you gone trick or treating since you have graduated college?  Have you taken candy from those kids in costume?"

Mrs. Boobs, I mean Beth, what kind of costumes did you wear at Halloween parties when you were in college?"

 
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Kenology on September 27, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
Dunno if someone posted this one yet, but according to EGM's Quatermann:

Final Fantasy Tactics director Yasumi Matsuno (who also conceived and directed Tactics Ogre [SNES] and Vagrant Story [PS1], etc...) is wrangling together some of his old pals who worked on past SRPG titlles like Ogre Battle (SNES) to piece together an exclusive Wii game very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics.


Please let this be a sequel to Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together!  And I'd rather be in the vien of Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen and Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Calibur as opposed to Tactics Ogre and FFT - but I'll take what I can get.  Damn I hope this is true...  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/25/2007)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on September 28, 2007, 01:45:03 AM
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Originally posted by: Kenology
Tactics Ogre: March of the Black Queen


excuse me wtf r u doin?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Crimm on September 28, 2007, 03:30:25 AM
64's squad based system allowed SO much more experimentation with classes.  

Shift this unit here.
Move this one there.
Change her class.
Move the ansate cross to her, and add some soldiers.
Give this guy a blessed sword.

Not only did you experiment with classes, but you also experimented with squad composition and layout.  You could find some absolutely unbeatable squad setups.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Kenology on September 28, 2007, 03:50:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
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Originally posted by: Kenology
Tactics Ogre: March of the Black Queen


excuse me wtf r u doin?


Oops!  My bad.  Corrected.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Strell on September 28, 2007, 05:05:21 AM
My hopes have been crushed that the entire network was being shut down.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Stogi on September 28, 2007, 05:33:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Crimm I love your flowchart.  I can actually see a manager shuffling papers trying to hide the "formula" while interviewing people...asking important questions like:

Mr. Smith, have you gone trick or treating since you have graduated college?  Have you taken candy from those kids in costume?"

Mrs. Boobs, I mean Beth, what kind of costumes did you wear at Halloween parties when you were in college?"


OH god!

I can't wait for halloween this year! It's always a competition among girls. Like, let's see who can dress up the skankiest while still looking cute. So they go out and by german beer girl outfits, and little alice in wonderland outfits. Then they go out and party even harder because it's Halloween!



I swear, it's probably my favorite holiday after thanksgiving.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: EasyCure on September 28, 2007, 05:55:09 AM
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Originally posted by: KashogiStogi
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Crimm I love your flowchart.  I can actually see a manager shuffling papers trying to hide the "formula" while interviewing people...asking important questions like:

Mr. Smith, have you gone trick or treating since you have graduated college?  Have you taken candy from those kids in costume?"

Mrs. Boobs, I mean Beth, what kind of costumes did you wear at Halloween parties when you were in college?"


OH god!

I can't wait for halloween this year! It's always a competition among girls. Like, let's see who can dress up the skankiest while still looking cute. So they go out and by german beer girl outfits, and little alice in wonderland outfits. Then they go out and party even harder because it's Halloween!



I swear, it's probably my favorite holiday after thanksgiving.


mm so truuuue. i used to work in a retail store that sold tons of those slutty costumes around halloween... theres nothing like having a sexy girl try on a wonder woman costume and come out and ask your opinion on it cuz you're the only guy in the store :-D

even better was when they'd need my help zipping stuff up ;-)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Strell on September 28, 2007, 06:08:33 AM
Help zipping stuff up?

Yeah, we call'em trannies, EC.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: stevey on September 28, 2007, 11:52:45 AM
Don't act like it was just G4 that ruin TechTV cause it was sooo good that the owners had to sell it to keep their houses......

G4 was just as good as TechTV before they merge together. After they did all of G4 shows went to cr@p. Why? All of the big suit from the networks, that kept both TechTV and G4 from turning into a Nerds playground and kept them being professional, left since they thought the channel was on it's way and didn't need to intervene in anymore. (And wouldn't return as long as G4 sill had ratings.)  So, as expected from a bunch of freshly out of collage frat boys who wanted to work for a VG channel and now are place in charge of it, the network turned into the G4 of now and surely will be a hardcore (star trek) porn channel by next year.....  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Crimm on September 28, 2007, 11:58:54 AM
I disagree.  G4 had a load of garbage.

Judgement Day had that jackass
Electric Playground was always out of date and never provided much in terms of good info
Arena had the current host of Attack of the Show (who I can't stand) and the steroid freak leatherneck
Cheat was all about how many sponsors they could squeeze in
That show that was some guy talking to video game characters was stupid
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on September 28, 2007, 12:06:18 PM
Don't act like G4 ruined Tech TV? Why not? It DID ruin tech tv. It merged. All the good shows went bye bye (aside from like X-play, if you consider that a good show) and . . . yeah. I hate G4 and I hate the merger.

I miss the old Tech TV, I used to watch it all the time. Oh well.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: stevey on September 28, 2007, 12:26:05 PM
Judgement Day: I hated tommy too but unlike Xplay, they gave 2 review for every game. So if you're a sound/graphics whore listen to tommy score, if you like having fun to the other guy.

Arena: Never watch more than a sec of the garbage

Cheat: Wasn't all ad untill before they change, back before they gave indeath advice of game, cool codes, and were more for getting your money out of a game than helping loser get pass level 2

and don't mock portal!  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Blue Plant on September 28, 2007, 02:28:03 PM
I used to watch The Screen Savers quite often...  now it's perverse.  Oh well, I don't even get the channel anymore
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Crimm on September 29, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
The Pringles logo WAS ON THE SHOW LOGO!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2007, 07:37:58 AM
So what was the G4 announcement anyway?  

Also I think I need some "indeath" advice right about now.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 08, 2007, 07:41:23 AM
I bet it was Bungie and MS adjusting their business relationship. That or the $400 PS3.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 09/28/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 17, 2007, 04:26:00 PM
Not sure how this rumor was never logged in tot the records that are this thread, but...

Capcom bringing Okami to the Wii?

I'm sure its mentioned in this thread somewhere, but I didn't see it mentioned in the rumor summary.
Either way, anyone that knows whether this is true or not can't talk about it till Friday, so as usual the wait continues,
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/17/2007)
Post by: Crimm on October 18, 2007, 04:59:10 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Not sure how this rumor was never logged in tot the records that are this thread, but...

Capcom bringing Okami to the Wii?

I'm sure its mentioned in this thread somewhere, but I didn't see it mentioned in the rumor summary.
Either way, anyone that knows whether this is true or not can't talk about it till Friday, so as usual the wait continues,


It has been confirmed by eurogamer as part of Capcom's press conference.

Edit: link
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/17/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 18, 2007, 05:45:19 AM
It was a stupid announcment that G4 is getting Heroes Season 2 on Saturday starting in November.  Big Deal...actually I am kinda excited about that because I can watch heroes since I miss it on Mondays.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/17/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 18, 2007, 03:40:29 PM

Skies of Arcadia Sequel coming?
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A little out of left field, however, is news of Sega reviving Skies of Arcadia. The sky pirate RPG was criminally overlooked, despite releases on both Dreamcast and GameCube, but apparently Sega been quietly preparing a sequel to the swashbuckling adventure.


My guess is that if this is true, it will most likely release on the Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Adrock on October 18, 2007, 03:48:25 PM
Interesting. I'd place my bets on a sequel being for Wii. Sega would be wise to release it for Wii granted the console has the largest install base (notably in Japan), it's easiest (and cheapest) to develop for, and is starved for RPGs. Wait, wait a minute, that'd be wise of Sega.... silly me.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 18, 2007, 03:53:52 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Skies of Arcadia Sequel coming?
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A little out of left field, however, is news of Sega reviving Skies of Arcadia. The sky pirate RPG was criminally overlooked, despite releases on both Dreamcast and GameCube, but apparently Sega been quietly preparing a sequel to the swashbuckling adventure.


My guess is that if this is true, it will most likely release on the Wii.


Oh god oh god oh god I got bored of SoA on the GC but darn it Sega please don't make me hate you!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 19, 2007, 02:06:23 AM
Well, now I have my happy thought.  I hope this does come to the Wii.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Louieturkey on October 19, 2007, 02:33:16 AM
I loved SoA and have been looking forward to a possible sequel for a while.  Hopefully, they don't ruin the series like they did to Shining Force.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 19, 2007, 03:02:06 AM
Skies of Arcadia is fantastic.  A little too crazy on random battles but overall really good.  On one hand I'd love a sequel.  On the other hand it's Sega.  I don't trust them to not f*ck it up.  Do the sequel right or don't do it at all.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 19, 2007, 04:20:52 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
My guess is that if this is true, it will most likely release on the Wii.

Well considering only the Dreamcast and Gamecube saw the original, I'm going to say...

...that Sega will pull a Sega and make it 360-exclusive...
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: MLS_man_64 on October 19, 2007, 05:23:46 AM
Skies of Arcadia Legends was my favorite Gamecube game.

Please Sega, make this happen on Wii.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 20, 2007, 03:30:17 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Quote

Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
My guess is that if this is true, it will most likely release on the Wii.

Well considering only the Dreamcast and Gamecube saw the original, I'm going to say...

...that Sega will pull a Sega and make it 360-exclusive...

Actually I was thinking if it doesn't release on Wii, it will be a PS2 exclusive and release late 2008.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Terranigma Freak on October 22, 2007, 06:36:57 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
My guess is that if this is true, it will most likely release on the Wii.

Well considering only the Dreamcast and Gamecube saw the original, I'm going to say...

...that Sega will pull a Sega and make it 360-exclusive...

Actually I was thinking if it doesn't release on Wii, it will be a PS2 exclusive and release late 2008.


It'll probably be a cell-phone game.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kenology on October 22, 2007, 11:49:40 AM
Man, Skies of Arcadia was such a great game.  I really enjoyed the direct and not-so-subtle references to the real world (and the power dynamics therein).  Let's hope this sequel is real (and on Wii).  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2007, 01:15:05 PM
Not a rumor per say, but more of wishful thinking.

But is it possible that a Psychonauts port could be coming to the Wii?

edit:
Is it also possible that Sin & Punishment 2 could be coming to the Wii?

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From the latest issue of Nintendo Power:

Sin and Punishment Wii sequel not out of the question
October 23rd, 2007

Coming from the latest issue of Nintendo Power…

NP: When we spoke a couple of years ago, you mentioned that you would like to do a sequel to Sin and Punishment. Has the team given any more thought to that? And don’t you think it would be a perfect fit for Wii?

Masato Maegawa, Treasure: When we were originally working on Sin and Punishment [for Virtual Console], there was some discussion utilizing Wii-like controls, and I think now that we’re working more with the Wii, it is something we’d very much like to try.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Strell on October 22, 2007, 04:11:44 PM
Sin and Punishment 2 would be groin grabbingly good.

The game is literally designed with the Wii in mind.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 23, 2007, 02:15:24 AM
"But is it possible that a Psychonauts port could be coming to the Wii?"

I think it's possible that ANY port could be coming to the Wii... provided it's from last gen of course.

Seriously though everyone stop getting excited about ports or wishing for ports or suggesting certain games be ported.  We're getting f*cking on support here and supporting last-gen port dumping is probably a big part of the reason.  We'll never get better support if we tolerate this lazy bullsh!t.  I don't know about you but I didn't buy a Wii to play PS2 or Xbox games.

How weird would it be for Sin & Punishment to get a sequel after being limited to Japan for years?  For years we wanted that game released in North America in some form and now we might have two S&P games on one console.  You look at that possibility and you look at how Advance Wars and Fire Emblem are now routinely released here and you wonder why Nintendo doesn't just take the risk and localize everything.  Makes their stubborness about Earthbound all the more annoying.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: anubis6789 on October 23, 2007, 08:06:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I don't know about you but I didn't buy a Wii to play PS2 or Xbox games.


Well some of us did not have a PS2 or Xbox when the games originally came out, and while the wanting of those games to be ported may be a selfish want, you not wanting the ports is just as selfish.

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How weird would it be for Sin & Punishment to get a sequel after being limited to Japan for years?  For years we wanted that game released in North America in some form and now we might have two S&P games on one console.  You look at that possibility and you look at how Advance Wars and Fire Emblem are now routinely released here and you wonder why Nintendo doesn't just take the risk and localize everything.  Makes their stubborness about Earthbound all the more annoying.


Yes, it does make it more annoying.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 23, 2007, 08:17:32 AM
"Well some of us did not have a PS2 or Xbox when the games originally came out, and while the wanting of those games to be ported may be a selfish want, you not wanting the ports is just as selfish."

I don't have a PS2 or Xbox either BUT if I want one I'll buy one.  A PS2 is much cheaper than a Wii and has way more games.  I don't have to hope for PS2 games I want to be ported to it because they're already on the console.  I can play every PS2 game instead of just some.

I bought the Wii for Wii games.  That's what you're supposed to buy a console for - the games that are made for the console.  I'm not being selfish, I'm being a smart consumer.  I paid a higher price for a Wii than I would have for a PS2 or Xbox (and Gamecube in some cases).  So I expect more exclusive Wii content to justify that purchase.

Now if we got ports plus new exclusives then GREAT!  There's nothing wrong with that.  But right now we're getting a lot of ports INSTEAD of new exclusives and that's crap.  The "instead" is what I'm against and don't want anyone to encourage, not the mere existence of ports.  If we can get as many games available on the Wii as possible that would awesome.  But the Wii has to be more than a retro machine.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 23, 2007, 08:32:01 AM
Of course, the reason we're getting tons of ports is because third parties were tentative in their Wii plans. They hedged their bets with cheaper ports, and they were especially attractive early on because they could be developed quicker, allowing late-arriving third-parties a shot at the 2007 Holiday season.

Not to mention that some ports are made because they actually believe it's worthwhile to make them for the wiimote and a new audience: Tecmo seems to believe so with Rygar, as does Capcom with Okami.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 23, 2007, 08:41:17 AM
This is Twilight Princess' fault.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 23, 2007, 08:43:57 AM
"Not to mention that some ports are made because they actually believe it's worthwhile to make them for the wiimote and a new audience: Tecmo seems to believe so with Rygar, as does Capcom with Okami."

Maybe so but I figure "Hey!  We don't have to make a new game!" is playing the biggest role in their decisions.

Initially we were probably getting a lot of ports because third parties underestimated the Wii and wanted to get something out as soon as possible to capitalize but now I think they're taking advantage of the situation.  Now they're releasing ports because they think they've found an audience that is easily manipulated and requires very little effort to please.  We bought their ports so now they think they have an easy way to make a profit without putting any real effort, money or time into it and they're exploiting that.  And as long as they continue to bring those profits in that's not going to change.  What incentive do they have to try harder when they don't have to?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: anubis6789 on October 23, 2007, 08:46:13 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I don't have a PS2 or Xbox either BUT if I want one I'll buy one.  A PS2 is much cheaper than a Wii and has way more games.  I don't have to hope for PS2 games I want to be ported to it because they're already on the console.  I can play every PS2 game instead of just some.
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Again though, I must restate that some of us may not be able to buy those systems.

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I bought the Wii for Wii games.  That's what you're supposed to buy a console for - the games that are made for the console.  I'm not being selfish, I'm being a smart consumer.  I paid a higher price for a Wii than I would have for a PS2 or Xbox (and Gamecube in some cases).  So I expect more exclusive Wii content to justify that purchase.


So I am guessing you do not like or use the VC?

Sorry, that was a cheap shot.

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Now if we got ports plus new exclusives then GREAT!  There's nothing wrong with that.  But right now we're getting a lot of ports INSTEAD of new exclusives and that's crap.  The "instead" is what I'm against and don't want anyone to encourage, not the mere existence of ports.  If we can get as many games available on the Wii as possible that would awesome.  But the Wii has to be more than a retro machine.


Ian, the amount of ports on the Wii is minimal compared to the new Wii games; I think I can count the ports on one hand. I do not think that the problem is as pronounced as you make it.

Just to make sure: when we are talking about ports we are talking about ports of games from last gen onto the Wii, not the usual multi-system releases that accompany things like movie releases, right?  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 23, 2007, 08:59:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
We bought their ports so now they think they have an easy way to make a profit without putting any real effort, money or time into it and they're exploiting that.


Actually, with the exception of RE4 Wii... no we didn't.

*weeps for Far Cry, and the Wii Editions of Scar Face and Godfather*

I understand what you're saying IanSane, but you're basically describing a catch-22. Do you see ANYWAY out of it aside from from taking a stand and buying games?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 23, 2007, 09:34:55 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Oh god oh god oh god I got bored of SoA on the GC but darn it Sega please don't make me hate you!
I was going to comment on how much I hate you, but then I remembered that you have such a horrible peculiar taste in games...


have been waiting for this since FOREVER, make it happen Sega!

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 23, 2007, 09:41:14 AM
Haha Athrun Zula, I haven't been able to enjoy RPGs ever since they went 3D.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 23, 2007, 09:46:25 AM
"So I am guessing you do not like or use the VC?"

Actually I haven't used it yet.  I probably will in the future but I prefer to own original copies of older games.  I think it's a great feature though.

"Just to make sure: when we are talking about ports we are talking about ports of games from last gen onto the Wii, not the usual multi-system releases that accompany things like movie releases, right?"

Yes that's what we're talking about.  Last gen games.

"I understand what you're saying IanSane, but you're basically describing a catch-22. Do you see ANYWAY out of it aside from from taking a stand and buying games?"

I suppose we could support the new games that do show up and buy the ports used or wait until they're cheaper.  But if you don't own the game and it's good you might as well buy it.  You're only really doing something "wrong" if you buy crappy last gen ports.  At least lay off buying ports of games you already own.  That drives me nuts.  If you own the PS2 version of Okami don't rush out on release day to get the Wii version.  You already own the game and you can buy it any time, so why not wait a get the game used or get it later?

Whatever.  We should get back to talking about rumours.  So Sin & Punishment 2?  Neat, huh?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Athrun Zala on October 23, 2007, 09:47:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Haha Athrun Zula, I haven't been able to enjoy RPGs ever since they went 3D.
I know Keiron, I recall a certain topic where this was discussed... (I can't find it, obviously... damned search function...)
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2007, 09:47:52 AM
I'd like all talk to stay far away from Sin & Punishment 2, because I know if I hype it up too much it'll never happen... =(
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 23, 2007, 09:51:11 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Is it also possible that Sin & Punishment 2 could be coming to the Wii?


Disproved /sad.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2007, 10:21:50 AM
What?  Don't scare me with random articles that don't have anything to do with S&P... >=|
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 23, 2007, 10:41:09 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon

Oh god oh god oh god I got bored of SoA on the GC


Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: MLS_man_64 on October 23, 2007, 01:14:53 PM
Burn Kairon at the stake for his harasy  
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2007, 01:44:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon

Disproved /sad.

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"It's crazy, isn't it? We just put that in there as a placeholder for the Psychonauts page we're eventually going to have. But we made it dark and people freaked out," he told us. "While I'm sorry people got their hopes up, I'm happy that people got excited about it. Who knows? Maybe some clever publisher will see how much excitement that dark little banner generated, and send us a few million dollars to make a new Psychonauts game! "


No Tim I don't think you get it. Most of the specualtion was for a Wii port of the original Psychonauts(from what I was reading) which would hopefully lead to development of a new Psychonauts.

And Ian, that is why some of us buy some of the "last gen" ports, its because we want to show that the audience is here for that game and we also hope that if we all buy the port(proving the audience) we will hopefully be considered first when it comes time for the sequel (still waiting for RE5 for Wii announcement from Capcom).
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 23, 2007, 07:55:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I'm not being selfish, I'm being a smart consumer.


You can spin it that way if you like, but you are being selfish; we all are. If we weren't selfish we wouldn't play games or spend money on them but instead spend that money and time helping kids in Darfur or something.

Anyways, they aren't really ports but remakes (Wii-makes, if you like) of last gen games. That said, they aren't merely ports as they do have bonus material added, and also motion control. Also, they are cheaper than new games, so I don't see the problem. If you don't like it, don't buy them. Buy games you consider acceptable instead.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Strell on October 23, 2007, 08:10:17 PM
Can we has plz rumars in rumars thread?

Rumars thread is rumars.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: 18 Days on October 24, 2007, 01:59:26 AM
In reference tot he most recent rumour actually poted in BlacknMild's opening post. No. It's not happening. I dunno if you guys have checked out sega's site lately but they more or less deny Skies ever existed. "oh that just cos it's old" wrong. Skies has been disowned since the Sammy takeover.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2007, 02:06:11 AM
More EGM rumours from the same batch the Skies rumour was yanked from:

~ Geist sequel in the works (would be rad)
~ It's A Wonderful World being localized

Also, Edge says Animal Crossing Wii to be MMO...Also of note in the article is the mention of a possible "Virtual Console" for the DS, in which we'd be able to play old Game Boy and Game Boy Color titles...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 24, 2007, 03:35:10 AM
Geist is a game that needed much more development time, and a better control system.

A sequel is definitely needed to do the game justice.  Imagine if Nintendo went all out to create Geist as their online FPS.  The game has infinitely more possibilities than other FPSers.

I just hope they refine the possessing mechanics, and in multiplayer allow for ammo to run out, and the need to hope from player to player more.  Also, if players were better defined like team fortress with strengths and weaknesses.

Oh I hope this game comes true.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on October 24, 2007, 03:57:55 AM
Geist wasn't really all that great . . . the sequel needs a lot of work done to it outside of just more development time and a better control system. IMHO.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 24, 2007, 04:48:50 AM
"A sequel is definitely needed to do the game justice. Imagine if Nintendo went all out to create Geist as their online FPS. The game has infinitely more possibilities than other FPSers."

I don't know.  I almost think it would better for Nintendo to ironically not be so innovative with an online FPS.  It's just because the Wii doesn't have one and the Gamecube didn't have one and Nintendo fans have been starved for a good exclusive FPS since Perfect Dark which came out SEVEN YEARS AGO.  While fiddling with ghosts and possessions is creative we don't really need an oddball FPS since we don't have a conventional one.  I think Nintendo should just try to make the best FPS they can and not go crazy on making it different.  Metroid Prime 3 is pretty much a "non-traditional" FPS already (though I still consider it an FPA) so do we need more (or at least more before something conventional)?

To me it's like if Mario Kart and F-Zero were it and the console didn't have any racers that just used normal cars.  I love a creative twist on a genre but sometimes you want something that plays like you expect but does it exceptionally well.  I start to crave games like that when the genre is significantly underrepresented.  It's like how on the N64 we didn't have RPGs and while I liked Paper Mario it was almost frustrating.  It's a good game but I didn't want the only RPG (that's not Ogre Battle) on the console to be so different.  I would have appreciated it more if RPGs were more common and then Paper Mario was a fresh twist.  If I haven't had pizza in ten years give me pepperoni first and then I'll try an unfamiliar flavour.

Nintendo's never made a console online FPS so really just seeing them make one would still be fresh and exciting.

Though I think I just don't trust the Geist dev to do a good job.  They've made Olsen Twins, Winx Club, Dexter's Laboratory, Austin Powers, and Rugrats games.  Geist is their best game BY FAR and that doesn't speak well of their talent.  They're a dev publishers use to get product on a platform whether it be a nothing licenced game or a portable "port" of a popular console title.  Literally everything they've made but Geist has been shovelware.  I have no idea what the hell Nintendo sees in them.

But then if Retro Studios makes a full-out online FPS then it doesn't really matter if Geist 2 exists and sucks or doesn't.  I just want some sort of awesome FPS from Nintendo that rivals Goldeneye and Perfect Dark.  But if Geist 2 is released and it isn't that great and Nintendo is all "well there's your online FPS; no need to make another one" that would suck.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: IceCold on October 24, 2007, 05:45:19 AM
You, know, I agree with you Ian. But I don't think Nintendo themselves would make "just another FPS" or "just another racing game", which is part of the reason I like them. Third parties have to step up in these areas.

EDIT: Yeah, or Retro.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on October 24, 2007, 05:50:47 AM
Regardless of whether or not you liked Geist, it is something to respect that Nintendo is willing to continue it as a franchise considering how poorly the first did (Same with Battalion Wars II). Unlike most companies, I think Nintendo sees potential in games and is willing to give them a second chance.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 24, 2007, 06:21:21 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane

Though I think I just don't trust the Geist dev to do a good job.  They've made Olsen Twins, Winx Club, Dexter's Laboratory, Austin Powers, and Rugrats games.  Geist is their best game BY FAR and that doesn't speak well of their talent.  They're a dev publishers use to get product on a platform whether it be a nothing licenced game or a portable "port" of a popular console title.  Literally everything they've made but Geist has been shovelware.  I have no idea what the hell Nintendo sees in them.


What Nintendo saw was a creative twist on the FPS genre that showed a creative spark belied by their previous work.  Sure, n-Space couldn't quite overcome their inexperience to make Geist stellar, but it didn't turn out bad, either.  And by the time it finally came out, it was too late for it to have sold decently on the GameCube anyway.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 24, 2007, 06:28:10 AM
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Regardless of whether or not you liked Geist, it is something to respect that Nintendo is willing to continue it as a franchise considering how poorly the first did (Same with Battalion Wars II). Unlike most companies, I think Nintendo sees potential in games and is willing to give them a second chance.


Which wasn't really its fault because all GC games after 2004 or so either failed or just didn't do as well as they should have. But the Wii is like the opposite of the GC in terms of popularity, so this will be the true test.

Edit: PartyBear beat me to it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2007, 06:30:22 AM
Ugh, I do NOT want Retro's talents wasted on "just a normal FPS"...Innovation and substance, please...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 24, 2007, 07:23:58 AM
Ian I would agree with you except, I don't think Nintendo needs to worry about having an exclusive "normal FPS."  FPSers have been on every system, and it doesn't matter if they are exclusive or not...just that they are good.

However, original ideas and concepts aren't on every system.  Geist was a really great original game.  Yet, it needed to be better thought out.  It was like the development team had some ideas, but couldn't wrap their brains around how to best execute the ideas into a full fledge game with story and great level design.  

I played most of Geist, the final levels were quite difficult, and I could beat them.  What I noticed from the game was almost brilliance.  What I mean is that the game had some many great ideas that worked but did not shine.  I guess I would say the execution of everything was at 70%.

If Nintendo gave the game a second chance, I think it could be really great.  Retell the the same story, but add more to it.  Get out of the research/base area faster and have more "real world" activity.  Have a really fleshed out multi-player game with online play.  I loved the idea of setting up traps and using inanimate objects against your enemies...I want more of this in the game.  

If you created a new Geist game which reached about 90% execution on all the potential that was in that game, you would have one of the best FPS/A games there is...and you would have a hell of a multiplayer game.

Then we could allow EA, Free Radical, Ubisoft and all the 3rd party developers handle normal FPS for the Wii.

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on October 24, 2007, 07:42:31 AM
"You, know, I agree with you Ian. But I don't think Nintendo themselves would make 'just another FPS' or 'just another racing game', which is part of the reason I like them."

It wouldn't be "just another FPS".  It would be the most amazing FPS you ever played.  It's like how SSB Brawl really isn't that different from the other SSB games but it looks like HAL is just going nuts trying to make the absolute best game it could possible be.  Nintendo's not just innovative but also really talented and sometimes it's nice for them to just make the ultimate game in a genre that CRUSHES all others.

And I'm not suggesting it not be innovative.  All sorts of cool ideas can be introduced into an FPS with it still feeling like an FPS.  Goldeneye proved that.  Half-Life proved that.  It doesn't have to be as different as Metroid Prime is, for example, to be innovative.  I'm more against Nintendo giving us real out-there games that sort of play like an FPS to act as the Wii's big FPS.  I guess I'd rather them take Doom to the next level than reinvent Doom.  It's like how Pikmin is an awesome game and I love it but it is so different from a conventional RTS that it doesn't fill any craving to play an RTS.  However Blizzard's RTS games do fill any RTS craving and yet they're not generic or stale.  They introduce enough new ideas to keep things interesting but don't play so differently that they're creating their own subgenre.

In short I don't want just wacky weirdo first person shooters on the Wii.  Considering the console is seemingly tailor made for a killer FPS it would be a waste for Nintendo to not make one.  Retro would never make a "normal FPS".  "Normal" suggests "unexceptional" and odds are any FPS Retro made would be most exceptional.

Make me a bike.  Do whatever you want with it to make it a better bike regardless of how unconvential your ideas may be but in the end make sure it's still a bike.  Don't go so nuts that I get a motorized tricycle back.

I want lots of weapons, I want a first person view, I want to be able to shoot the f*ck out of my friends either online or splitscreen and I want some sort of single player mode with some depth to it and some sort of story to provide an excuse for why I'm killing stuff.  Beyond that basic outline do whatever you want in between as long as you don't shoehorn an out-of-place Nintendo IP in it.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 24, 2007, 07:48:50 AM
But isn't that the job of third parties?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 24, 2007, 08:17:10 AM
I agree Nintendo can make a great FPS.  But like Kairon said:  It is the objective of all game developers to make the best game possible, and although Nintendo is better than most it isn't like 3rd parties can't create games equally as great as Nintendo can.

But I really don't get your Smash Brothers argument...in fact Smash Bros. fits my argument better.

Nintendo set out to create a new fighting game, but instead of just making a 2D or 3D fighter with Nintendo characters.  Or creating a new franchise like Rare did with Killer Instinct.  Nintendo decided to create a new fighting game experience.  It created an engine around King of the Hill and your damage level increasing instead of health decreasing.  It added 4 players at a time, and simplified the buttons and combos down to make it approachable in a 4 player game.  Then they added levels that played more like platforming games and items to attack enemies.

Basically Nintendo created the most original fighting game experience ever, by changing the formula.  

Nintendo did the same thing to FPS with Metroid Prime series, turning a FPS into a FPA and changing the focus of the game.  Nintendo do the same again with Pikmin creating an original and innovative Real Time Strategy game.  So I look at Geist as a chance for Nintendo to create another great original experience.  A game that can take FPS concept and imagination to a new level.  A game that can rewrite the rules and break all the cliches of the genre.  

I really don't want Nintendo just creating games that don't break the mold...even if it is the greatest game created in that design mold.  I want them to reinvent genres, and set new standards for what we understand games to be.  Then once they have done that, they can use that franchise to refine their original vision and perfect it.

I think Geist 2 would be a game capable of refining, and perfecting the series and Geist experience.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 24, 2007, 08:28:49 AM
I don't like the attitude that Nintendo should leave certain genres to third parties as if those genres were beneath them.  I'm sure Ubisoft will try, and I'd love to see Free Radical take a swing at it, but Retro is the only team we absolutely know could make the ultimate Wii FPS.  Of course, I hope they're given the choice to do whatever they want to do, and I have a feeling they'll want to stretch a bit creatively, so an FPS wouldn't appeal to them.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 24, 2007, 08:34:06 AM
It's not so much that Nintendo should leave genres behind, just that if Nintendo made games in every genre, wouldn't that leave nothing for third parties to do? If they don't want to make games on a Nintendo console now for fear of competing, just think of what'll happen then? I mean, you already seem so sure that you'd buy a Retro developed FPS compared to a Ubisoft or Free Radical effort, and if that's discouraging now, imagine how much more discouraging it'd be if it became reality!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Maverick on October 24, 2007, 08:38:15 AM
That's not because Nintendo controls Retro though, it's because Retro has a better track record in our minds.  If third parties would make games that warrant that sort of support from us (on Nintendo systems), then we would be celebrating those companies.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 24, 2007, 08:43:55 AM
So we're back to the catch-22 of us not buying third party games because they're not trying hard enough and third parties not wanting to even try because we're not buying their games?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Maverick on October 24, 2007, 08:50:22 AM
It's not really a catch 22, they're the producer, I'm the consumer.  They need to make something worth consuming (which many 3rd parties do, but less frequently on Nintendo systems).
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on October 24, 2007, 09:18:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
It's not so much that Nintendo should leave genres behind, just that if Nintendo made games in every genre, wouldn't that leave nothing for third parties to do? If they don't want to make games on a Nintendo console now for fear of competing, just think of what'll happen then?


Who ever said they couldn't make games in those same genres?  It's what they're already doing.  If nobody could make a game in the same genre as someone else, we'd have less than a hundred games, even being generous with genre-crossing.

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I mean, you already seem so sure that you'd buy a Retro developed FPS compared to a Ubisoft or Free Radical effort, and if that's discouraging now, imagine how much more discouraging it'd be if it became reality!


I never said I wouldn't buy the Ubisoft or Free Radical game.  I'm pretty sure I expressed some excitement over them, in fact.  You're the only one operating within your false dichotomy of first party vs. third party games.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on October 24, 2007, 09:30:51 AM
Timesplitters 4.

That's all I'll say.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 24, 2007, 11:10:38 AM
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Originally posted by: Maverick
It's not really a catch 22, they're the producer, I'm the consumer.  They need to make something worth consuming (which many 3rd parties do, but less frequently on Nintendo systems).


But what happens when producers follow consumer trends? They'll start making something worth consuming when we start putting out money that suggests that they can profit with budgets worth consuming.

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Originally posted by: PartyBear
I never said I wouldn't buy the Ubisoft or Free Radical game.  I'm pretty sure I expressed some excitement over them, in fact.  You're the only one operating within your false dichotomy of first party vs. third party games.


T_T But "false dichotomy" sounds so COOL! &<
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 24, 2007, 01:53:45 PM
Wow where do you get the notion that 3rd parties can't compete with 1st party or even 2nd party games.  It just all depends.  

I want the best variety of games possible for my Wii, and I want the best quality games for my Wii.  That means I want Nintendo working on their classic franchises, and them working on new IPs creating games in the genres they know the best...and taking chances on new ideas in ways that only Nintendo can.  

I want my third party companies to create the games they have the best skill and most capable of creating.  I want Free Radical to create a kick ass FPS with online controls and great humor (Time Splitters 4)  I want EA to keep on perfecting Sports simulations and working fun Wii controls into the design.  I want SquareEnix to create intriguing stories and great RPG elements in their Wii game offerings.  I want Capcom to do something right and do a truly next generation 2D Mega Man game in the classic Mega Man universe...or just port Resident Evil 5 over.  

My point is each developer has their own talents and style, and when they have the budget and time all can create great games on par with each other.  It is kinda the capitalist/trade nature of business.  

As for Geist, as I said I think it was a great idea that needs another chance to flourish and truly shine...just like BWii is given Battalion Wars a second chance at greatness.  

As for Retros future project, I want them to do whatever they want creating 3 great Metroid games they deserve the right to spread their wings and create something new and truly Retros.  

Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/18/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 24, 2007, 02:19:16 PM
I agree Spak-Spang, I'd love to see third-parties firing on all cylinders on the Wii... that's EXACTLY why I'm encouraging them when I can with game purchases NOW.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/24/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 29, 2007, 08:43:08 AM
So.... Portal for Wii rumor?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/24/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on October 29, 2007, 09:13:36 AM
Would it be called Orange Slices Box?  

I'd rather Have Team Fortress 2 for the Wii.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/24/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
So.... Portal for Wii rumor?

Its about time that an actual rumor popped up about this game cause it has been on the wish list of things that make sense ever since this game has been shown.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Adrock on October 29, 2007, 05:56:23 PM
Just because something makes sense, doesn't mean it'll happen........ or at the very least, happen right away. I'm looking in your direction, Okami for Wii.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Nick DiMola on October 29, 2007, 10:23:49 PM
Haven't the Valve guys on multiple occasions stated that they have no intentions of developing for Wii because the box was not powerful enough for their games? I highly doubt that Valve would put the effort in to port Portal or Orange Box because of the perceived Wii demographic. Ditto on what Adrock said as well.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Strell on October 30, 2007, 02:35:44 AM
Gabe Newell <3 the Wii, and I actually thought I read recently that Valve said "we have no intentions for the Wii currently, but we see this as a major problem."  Of course, this doesn't really mean anything until we have an actual confirmation somewhere.

The only other thing I think worth noting is that Mario Galaxy is about to come out, and it's one of the first games that truly takes advantage of the system's power, and this makes me wonder if developers will stop being able to rely on "it's not as powerful" excuse as much.

The other side of this equation is that Nintendo is notorious for not releasing programming information outside of their first/second parties, so that their games always look the best (which is debatable).  This is important, because I want to find out that the following happens:
1) Galaxy convinces people there's power in the system that can churn out nice graphics
2) Nintendo informs developers on how to unleash it
3) Devs not only make better looking games, but developers-previously-unwilling-to-develop get on board
4) ??????
5) Profit
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 30, 2007, 03:25:45 AM
I think Nintendo's games look the best because they give a lot more attention and development time/resources to their games than third parties give to games on Nintendo platforms. The popularity of the Wii and relative ease and inexpensiveness of development on the platform will help get the third parties making better-looking games, but I still think Nintendo will have the best looking stuff.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 30, 2007, 06:42:35 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
So.... Portal for Wii rumor?


Disproven...for now...

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With that in mind we spoke to Valve spokesman Doug Lombardi, who admitted it's an interesting idea but said there are no plans on the drawing board just yet.

"It's an extremely interesting idea, but there's nothing in product - not yet, anyway," he told CVG. Notice how he didn't rule it our completely? And let's face it, it would work on Wii, just a case of getting the engine up and running. We'll be keeping an eye on this one...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Strell on October 30, 2007, 03:39:58 PM
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Originally posted by: insanolord
I think Nintendo's games look the best because they give a lot more attention and development time/resources to their games than third parties give to games on Nintendo platforms. The popularity of the Wii and relative ease and inexpensiveness of development on the platform will help get the third parties making better-looking games, but I still think Nintendo will have the best looking stuff.


You're missing the point.

It is well known that Nintendo has historically not provided third parties with information on how to get the very best graphical capability out of their systems.

The best example off the top of my head is the N64, which was capable of Beizure (sic) curves, but only internal terms had access to this knowledge and how to pull it off.

I'm not saying third parties can't look good.  I'm saying they are at a disadvantage in comparison to Nintendo's own efforts.

Ultimately, this ties into the whole "third parties complain about poor sales against Nintendo's own franchises" dilemma, but that's an entirely different discussion.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 30, 2007, 06:17:48 PM
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Originally posted by: Strell
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Originally posted by: insanolord
I think Nintendo's games look the best because they give a lot more attention and development time/resources to their games than third parties give to games on Nintendo platforms. The popularity of the Wii and relative ease and inexpensiveness of development on the platform will help get the third parties making better-looking games, but I still think Nintendo will have the best looking stuff.


You're missing the point.

It is well known that Nintendo has historically not provided third parties with information on how to get the very best graphical capability out of their systems.

The best example off the top of my head is the N64, which was capable of Beizure (sic) curves, but only internal terms had access to this knowledge and how to pull it off.

I'm not saying third parties can't look good.  I'm saying they are at a disadvantage in comparison to Nintendo's own efforts.

Ultimately, this ties into the whole "third parties complain about poor sales against Nintendo's own franchises" dilemma, but that's an entirely different discussion.


Hasn't this situation been rectified a lot under Iwata?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2007, 06:29:34 PM
I thought Nintendo had made it a point to point out that they were actually sending their own "coding ninjas" to 3rd parties to help them actually take advantage of the Wii hardware so that the level of pathetic that was considered "effort" from most 3rd parties on the GC won't be repeated, for much longer.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 30, 2007, 07:58:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Originally posted by: Strell
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Originally posted by: insanolord
I think Nintendo's games look the best because they give a lot more attention and development time/resources to their games than third parties give to games on Nintendo platforms. The popularity of the Wii and relative ease and inexpensiveness of development on the platform will help get the third parties making better-looking games, but I still think Nintendo will have the best looking stuff.


You're missing the point.

It is well known that Nintendo has historically not provided third parties with information on how to get the very best graphical capability out of their systems.

The best example off the top of my head is the N64, which was capable of Beizure (sic) curves, but only internal terms had access to this knowledge and how to pull it off.

I'm not saying third parties can't look good.  I'm saying they are at a disadvantage in comparison to Nintendo's own efforts.

Ultimately, this ties into the whole "third parties complain about poor sales against Nintendo's own franchises" dilemma, but that's an entirely different discussion.


Hasn't this situation been rectified a lot under Iwata?


Hardware and waggle are 2 different things.  Nintendo might send 1 kind of ninja and forget about the other.

The situation hasn't been rectified since Nintendo's software looks ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL, while Zack & Wiki has to compete with Carnival Games.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 30, 2007, 08:01:25 PM
It's friggin GAMECUBE hardware. Third parties can't figure out how to use 5-year old architecture?!?!?!?!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 30, 2007, 10:17:55 PM
They're having trouble getting through the duct tape so they can combine the power of the two GameCubes.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: WindyMan on October 31, 2007, 09:47:35 AM
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Portal on Wii


1. Portal, as it is by itself, is not going to show up anywhere unless it's packaged with other Source engine games.  What a lot of people may not realize is that Portal is nothing more than a Half-Life 2 mod.  Where Portal goes, therefore, Half-Life 2 must follow.  I would much rather hear about an expansion and/or downloadable content to expand the current Portal on PC and 360 before anything else, honestly.

2. Since the Wii is (or will soon be) in the dominating position, any game that does well on any platform, the PC especially, will start needing to address rumors of that game moving to the Wii.  There's so much money and exposure in the prospect that it just needs to be asked.  Portal may be one of these games where it makes sense on paper to do it, so the rumor gets started.  When they asked Valve about it, of course it's going to say the option is there.  Even if it may not be technically possible with the current game, there's nothing stopping a special Wii version in the future.  But right now, it's got other things to worry about than making more console games.

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Originally posted by: Kairon
It's friggin GAMECUBE hardware. Third parties can't figure out how to use 5-year old architecture?!?!?!?!


No, because third parties didn't learn how to use GameCube hardware in the first place.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on October 31, 2007, 09:58:49 AM
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Originally posted by: WindyMan
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Originally posted by: Kairon
It's friggin GAMECUBE hardware. Third parties can't figure out how to use 5-year old architecture?!?!?!?!


No, because third parties didn't learn how to use GameCube hardware in the first place.


AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: darknight06 on October 31, 2007, 03:52:29 PM
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No, because third parties didn't learn how to use GameCube hardware in the first place.


Exactly, remember the old "Max Payne can't run on Gamecube because it only has 24MB of RAM excuse?"  This statement was made DESPITE the fact that Max Payne was at one time going to be made for the Dreamcast and it's 16MB OF RAM and overall lesser tech!  Eidos never figured out the system either, all their ports ended up worse than the PS2 releases, typically released 6 months to a year afterwards.  Hell, they STILL haven't figured it out, look at Tomb Raider Anniversary  Looks no better than PS2 and I'm willing to bet they'll find a way to make it run worse despite the hardware running circles around it.  The only part of EA in the know is the Canada division, we all know the rest of them are in limbo (Need For Speed Carbon's framerates, MOH Vanguard sucking)  Even then, they're obviously being spread too thin for one group for the only game they got coming soon that looks to have any sort of promise is MOH2.  Spiderman 3 looks better on PS2 than on Wii (Wii ended up with point sampled textures with no filtering in parts).  Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO on the GC looked worse than both the DC and PS2 editons of the game.  Sprites were WAY off in color, where the grays were shades of green and the whites had a slight red hue to them, graphical effects straight from PS2 instead of the superior DC version, and even MORE slowdown than in the DC original.  You see the numbers and hardware specs, yet (and this goes double for the Wii) 2 plus 2 ain't equaling 4.

Now last gen I recall Harmonix being one of the only developers on the GC that actually figured out that the system had more RAM other than the main 24 and that it ALSO could be used in game to bring the total RAM count to 40MB.  They claimed the only reason that the other Karaoke Revolutions didn't make it to the GC was because of this issue.  Granted, you did have the disc space concern, but even then you had compression techniques that were around long enough for at least the second game to have been ported.  Barring disc space, there's NO WAY in the world that they couldn't have known about the total RAM and how it could be used for that long though.  People all over the internet knew this info and I'm quite sure the tech documents for the GC had this information.  The kicker is that they figured this out on their FIRST and ONLY GC game (which came out great BTW) while other developers either knew but didn't care for various reasons or threw their second or third string teams on their late ports which botched them up royally. (Ubisoft did this with ALL of the Splinter Cells on anything other than X-Box and PC, they did the same with the Wii game.) This actually brings me to another point...

... what I've realized is that if a company wants something to happen and happen extremely well on a certain platform, you better believe they're gonna find a way to make it work irregardless of the so-called "technical hurdles" in front of them.  Max Payne and Unreal Tournament on DC is one example.  Tales of Symphonia and Viewtiful Joe on PS2 is another.  Games like RE4 and Splinter Cell (in 3D) on cellphones is a third.  Some publications have actually wondered how the Wii will handle Monster Hunter's graphics considering that according to them the PS2 games were graphically intensive, which IMO has got to be some serious joke.  There's no way Capcom is gonna be stupid enough to do only PS2 level visuals on the system especially when you consider that it will be exclusive to the platform. (and if somehow they screw it up, then they're way dumber than a box of rocks)  

Two more games I can add to that previous list is Call of Duty 4 and Assasins Creed for the DS.  Why DS and not Wii, and don't even try giving me the tech or userbase excuse.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Adrock on October 31, 2007, 05:35:22 PM
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... what I've realized is that if a company wants something to happen and happen extremely well on a certain platform, you better believe they're gonna find a way to make it work irregardless of the so-called "technical hurdles" in front of them.

Very true...

3rd parties flat-out chose not to support Nintendo hardware. Technical limitations are excuses and poor ones at that. Take a game like FFXII on PS2.... imagine what that team could do with Wii.

Also, don't insult the box of rocks.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2007, 01:54:21 PM
Not sure how legit this rumor is, but thats what makes a rumor a rumor now isn't it...?

in summarry Ancel is making BG&E2 [Beyond Good & Evil 2...for Wii(?)]
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"at first, RRR was going to be your usual rayman platform game, but with wii controls. or atleast that's what ancel wanted to make. but it became clear early on that this wasnt going to be possible.  
so, so other designer stepped up and came up up with the mini/party game idea using the rabbids character that ancel had came up with himself. higher-ups were pleased and the project was given a greenlight. ancel was FURIOUS. he threatened to leave ubisoft if he didnt get what he wanted. afraid to lose their ONE big famous designer (altho i guess clint kind of fits that mold now), ubisoft caved in and pretty much gave ancel a carte blanche to do whatever he wished next. so he made beyond good and evil too. and thats why ancel isnt credited as a designer on RR but rather just as a character designer."

source
follow the link in the link for more details  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 07, 2007, 02:15:35 PM
WII 3RD PARTY SUPPORT IS NOTHING BUT AN ILLUSION
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: ShyGuy on November 07, 2007, 02:27:07 PM
Rumor has it Super Mario Galaxy is canceled.


How legit is this Surfer Girl anyhow? And has FalafelKid said anything lately?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 07, 2007, 03:18:18 PM
No big scoops from Falafelkid recently, as he's just switched jobs and is moving. Well, actually, he claimed that Spore had an internal EA release date of may 2008, though I bet that could easily change as conditions change as well.

I'll be sure to ask him his opinion on Surfer Girl sometime... though I personally am highly skeptical of all the reports coming from that source.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2007, 05:34:04 PM
Well supposedly alot of the things coming from Surfer girl have come true, but alot of them were also pretty predictable.

here is alot more from Sufer Girl, all the things that most likely relate to Nintendo in some way or another
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2) IO-Interactive's next Hitman game, tentatively slated for release next summer, is coming to the Wii.
4) Even though the forthcoming Prince of Persia 4 will probably not be coming to the Wii, the system will receive an "alternate title" in the Prince of Persia franchise,
8) Neither of n-Space's two Wii titles stars a ghost. However, they are even more ambitious than that ghost game and far better. One features a temple level that looks like it was swiped out of Red Steel and the other more ambitious title features an alien reptilian creature who bares quite a resemblance to Ganondorf. I'd be surprised if either sees release before March 2009.
10) After great success Athens 2004, Eurocom is developing sequel 2008 Beijing Olympics for Sega.
11) That non-Metroid game Retro Studios is working on is a new IP that is not an FPS.
12) Zoonami has a few titles that will be available through WiiWare next year.
13) Q Entertainment is working on WiiWare title or two for release for next year.
14) Space Michael won't be in Space Channel 5 Part 3.
15) ChuChu Rocket! comeback for DS and/or Wii.
16) EA's next-gen snowboarding title that may or may not have SSX in the title is coming next fall, at the same time frame as "the best snowboarding game ever" (or so I'm told numerous times) Shaun White Snowboarding (which is also shredding next-gen systems).
17) Red Steel 2 not before May, with multiplayer and co-op.
18) LEGO Indiana Jones is coming out after or at the same time as Indiana Jones (working title).
19) Yet another Super Monkey Ball game is in the works.
20) Fight Night 2008 is coming to the Wii.
21) Fuse Games + that pink round guy that floats = their next DS title.
22) Super Punch-Out! is coming to Virtual Console next year.
23) Monster Games is developing another game for Nintendo, that is not an Excite Truck sequel.
24) Wii Motor Sports Airplane is a WiiWare title.
25) Mario Superstar Baseball Wii is sliding to home base in the summer.
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1) Nintendo's new handheld will see release in late 2009.
Although someone emailed me today saying "dudes i gotta a hot scoops on the new nintendo handheld system, it comes out 10/10/2010 and does not have a screen and is codenamed revolution." I'm glad I can get such hot scoops.
2) Something from J.J. Abrams that is not Lost is getting the game treatment.
I'm crossing my fingers for the Felicity MMORPG.
3) Ubisoft Montpelier is working on Beyond Good & Evil 2, Frédérick Raynal's new game (creepy), and an MMO. One of those will see release next year and the other two in 2009.
4) That Red Steel 2 features online play.
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1) EA is not working on a console nor is there any plans for such a thing to happen, EA is purely a software company.
2) Lost: The Game is as good, original, and inspired as the Alias game. Super interactive success for Jeffrey Abrams yet again.
3) Rumored new Zelda title for Wii? It's happening. Multiple titles. But the new big, epic Zelda for Wii is probably about two years away.
4) Nintendo is working on 30+ WiiWare titles, including some based off franchises such as Zelda (two games) and Mario.
7) I heard something back in March or April about a Shenmue title for Wii, but I have not heard anything since about it and doubt that there is any truth to that. Despite announcements to the contrary, I've heard from quite a few people that Shenmue III has never actually entered production. To my knowledge, Shenmue Online is the only Shenmue title currently in development.

2) WiiWare titles based on DK [and] Metroid are in the works.
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3) Three Wario games are in development.
4) Itadaki Street DS will see a release in the states sometime next year.


Now we can see how much of that actually come true.
All of these have been posted by Surfer Girl since Nov. 1st.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 07, 2007, 05:57:18 PM
I don't want to quote that because it's way too big, but a lot of interesting pieces there, although a few are completely obvious (Red Steel 2 will have online play? Who could have predicted that?). And I'd say the heavy favorite for J.J. Abrams' non-Lost property game is something based on Star Trek XI.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Ceric on November 08, 2007, 02:47:04 AM
The best looking game I've seen for the Wii is Dewy.  Especially the end of the Volcano area where you fight the clone of Mothra bad guy.  Better then most everything I've played on my PS3.

Though I have to say that somewhere else there was the actual money that Nintendo made from a third party sell compared to there own and it was vastly less.  Personally if I was Nintendo I have a program where people could buy my tools or developers time.

(In response to earlier discussion on the last page.)
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: The Omen on November 09, 2007, 06:58:16 AM
Well, my buddy was right, Bionic Commando was coming, but he got the console wrong.  But he insists Timesplitters 4 is going to the Wii.  He says it's a fact.  And as far as he knows, it's exclusive.  I hope to hell he gets more than just the game right with this one.

He also let slip that an old EA property from the 90's is being resurrected for the Wii, but he can't tell me the name yet.  He did tell me it's not a sports game, so take that for what it's worth.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 09, 2007, 07:23:05 AM
It's about time Shaq Fu came back!

Ahem.  After a quick look at a list of EA games, it looks like the best things to bring back from the 90s would be Dungeon Keeper, Desert Strike, and, if we include later acquisitions, Wing Commander.  
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on November 09, 2007, 07:31:44 AM
"Nintendo is working on 30+ WiiWare titles, including some based off franchises such as Zelda (two games) and Mario."

Nintendo is going to use WiiWare to milk their franchise?  Wow, what a scoop!

Who isn't assuming this will happen?  The spinoff train has already left for Zelda and Metroid so nothing's safe anymore.  Nintendo will spinoff every IP they own if think it will make money.

"Even though the forthcoming Prince of Persia 4 will probably not be coming to the Wii, the system will receive an 'alternate title' in the Prince of Persia franchise,"

Another easy guess.  This is just the norm for the Wii.

"That non-Metroid game Retro Studios is working on is a new IP that is not an FPS."

I want to see them make an FPS but I'm still excited to hear rumours at least that it's a new IP.  I want to see what Retro is truly capable of and Nintendo feeding them another IP would prevent that.  Can they make a great game from scratch with no existing template to work off of?  I think they can and I'm excited to see the results.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Maverick on November 09, 2007, 07:35:59 AM
Over at my website that nobody visits, we discussed what console you would like to see a new Wing Commander game on.  I voted for the Wii 'cause I was imagining the different ways the two controllers could act like a flight stick and/or thruster control.  Don't really know how that would work in real life, though.  Or how practical it would be to hold the Wii remote upwards all the time, or hold the Nunchuck in position.

Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 09, 2007, 08:25:13 AM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
Well, my buddy was right, Bionic Commando was coming, but he got the console wrong.  But he insists Timesplitters 4 is going to the Wii.  He says it's a fact.  And as far as he knows, it's exclusive.  I hope to hell he gets more than just the game right with this one.

He also let slip that an old EA property from the 90's is being resurrected for the Wii, but he can't tell me the name yet.  He did tell me it's not a sports game, so take that for what it's worth.


I don't care if it's exclusive, though it would be nice, but TimeSplitters 4 coming to the Wii would be a dream come true. Really, it makes sense to make it a Wii exclusive; as other developers have noted the PS3 is hard and expensive to develop for and it seems like every third game on the 360 is a first person shooter. If they made it for the Wii they'd have virtually no competition (Medal of Honor Heroes 2 looks good, but not anywhere near TimeSplitters good) and the control scheme that nearly everyone who's tried says is great for the genre.


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Originally posted by: Maverick
Over at my website that nobody visits, we discussed what console you would like to see a new Wing Commander game on.  I voted for the Wii 'cause I was imagining the different ways the two controllers could act like a flight stick and/or thruster control.  Don't really know how that would work in real life, though.  Or how practical it would be to hold the Wii remote upwards all the time, or hold the Nunchuck in position.


The game Heatseeker allowed you in one control scheme to use the nunchuk as a flight stick and it worked really well. The game was pretty average but those controls made it fun
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Maverick on November 09, 2007, 08:33:54 AM
The NUNCHUCK as a flight stick?  That wouldn't seem natural to me, I would want to use the Wii-mote, as I don't think I'd do very well with my left hand.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on November 09, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
"If they made it for the Wii they'd have virtually no competition"

This comes up all the time on this forum and to me it sounds like a brilliant business strategy.  Tecmo even proved it on the Xbox.  As one of the lone Japanese devs creating exclusives for a largely American focused console they stood out.  DOA was regarded as a major fighting game franchise while on the Saturn, Dreamcast or PS2 it was overshadowed by competition from Sega and Namco.

And yet we so rarely see this in action.  Fighting games, RPGs, first person shooters all tend to cluster on one console.  I guess the publishers think that if the genre is popular on a certain console then that's where the market is.  But that only pays off if your game is very exceptional.  Typically only a few titles become the really big hits on the "saturated" console and the rare time that genre appears on a "starving" console it stands out and gets extra attention even if it's kind of mediocre.  Hell look at something like Quest 64 which I still encounter some people praise merely because it was the first RPG on the N64.

So there's a good reason to make Timesplitters 4 for the Wii but sadly history doesn't match that logic.  The Xbox 360 will probably get it and no one will care.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 09, 2007, 08:48:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Maverick
The NUNCHUCK as a flight stick?  That wouldn't seem natural to me, I would want to use the Wii-mote, as I don't think I'd do very well with my left hand.


That's why you hold the nunchuk in your right hand when it's used that way. I haven't seen any games that do this, but with the Wii controller the way it is a game could easily instruct the player to put the nunchuk in their dominant hand. The remote's shape doesn't lend itself to being used as a flight stick, but the nunchuk does. And since you're just using the tilt functionality the nunchuk's usual inferiority to the remote goes away.

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"If they made it for the Wii they'd have virtually no competition"

This comes up all the time on this forum and to me it sounds like a brilliant business strategy.  Tecmo even proved it on the Xbox.  As one of the lone Japanese devs creating exclusives for a largely American focused console they stood out.  DOA was regarded as a major fighting game franchise while on the Saturn, Dreamcast or PS2 it was overshadowed by competition from Sega and Namco.

And yet we so rarely see this in action.  Fighting games, RPGs, first person shooters all tend to cluster on one console.  I guess the publishers think that if the genre is popular on a certain console then that's where the market is.  But that only pays off if your game is very exceptional.  Typically only a few titles become the really big hits on the "saturated" console and the rare time that genre appears on a "starving" console it stands out and gets extra attention even if it's kind of mediocre.  Hell look at something like Quest 64 which I still encounter some people praise merely because it was the first RPG on the N64.

So there's a good reason to make Timesplitters 4 for the Wii but sadly history doesn't match that logic.  The Xbox 360 will probably get it and no one will care.


Well Free Radical had a poll on their site (a couple months ago, I think) asking fans which console the game should be on, and the Wii won by a wide margin. RE4 selling more than a million should convince them that the audience is there. And if I'm not mistaken, the reason they moved from their previous publisher to EA was because they insisted on making a version of TimeSplitters 3 (Future Perfect) for the Cube and their old one didn't want them to do that, so they seem to have some love for Nintendo. I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, but I think this one has a real possibility of happening.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 09, 2007, 08:50:56 AM
::prays::
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 09, 2007, 11:33:26 AM
1up has a rumor that THQ will be re-releasing WWF(WWE) No Mercy via WiiWare, with updated rosters. If this is true, then that's incredible. That will please just about every wrestling game fan in existence.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2007, 12:51:09 PM
even more from Surfer Girl...

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2) An Animal Crossing MMO would not see release outside of Japan, NoA and NoE are obstinate in only wanting limited online functionality in the title.
3) F-Zero is coming to Wii and possibly, but probably not, being developed by Monster Games (according to someone with a rather legimate email address).
4) A new Skies of Arcadia for the Wii seems to be a yes.
5) No Wave Race, Luigi's Mansion's 2, Excitebike (it's called Nitrobike) or 1080 for Wii. Punch-Out for Wii, if it has gone beyond the prototype that was made last year, is a remake of the original NES title.
6) KHIII, if it is coming out. is definitely coming to the Wii, they need the game's demographics (which lean a bit younger than your average SquareEnix fanboy) to purchase the title.
10) No Wario World sequel.
12) Nintendo is most likely co-publishing Itadaki Street DS here stateside and the game is almost certainly to get a new name (and I have been told it was Nintendo's idea to release the game outside of Japan). If the game does well, Itadaki Street PSP may be released stateside. It's a Wonderful World is coming stateside next year as well.
14) Capcom character could happen in SSBB (I'd say Mega Man, who has his own Wii-exclusive coming next year), but a Square character seems highly unlikely.
15) Ghostbusters game is coming 2009, likely not being developed by ZootFly, and is coming to PS360 and possibly Wii.
18) BG&E2 is coming is PS360Wii.
19) Activision has a title that supports the Wii Zapper coming in the near future.
20) Factor 5 would like to develop for Wii, but there are not any concrete plans for a title.
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Now I speak in riddles. Solutions come Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday.

I) Chinese mythology plus steampunk equals sequel from Albertan cubicles.
II) Man, this quest seems to be everlasting, now we are on this third station of play.
III) Deity straight from Timonium loves we.
IV) The one who drives at night, the one who drops explosives in deep valleys in between cliffs, and the defensive structure made from quartz are alive again for this new mode of transport.
V) Before a year hence, sowing knees shall to respond what we wear and the exes and ayes.

Now to decipher some riddles... I think.

I is most likely not Nintendo related
II is Everquest 3 for PS3
III is some "God" game for Wii
IV = ?
V is something about Sony responding to Wii Ware and Xbox Live?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 10, 2007, 01:08:54 PM
I these surfergirl rumors are suspicious. First of all, a Square character in Brawl highly unlikely?? Sakurai has at least thought of three (Geno, Mallow and Sora) and Square is NOT the type of company to let go of an opportunity like that. Second, the KH Wii rumors have been going around ever since the console was fully unveiled back in May 2006. Third, Animal Crossing Japan online? Bitch please..

I'm sorry but I think this girl/guy is just making up random rumors to see if she/he can spark debates.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2007, 01:13:42 PM
The reason why they even get payed attention to ias that some of them have come true, and some of those were explained in detail then later confirmed.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2007, 01:20:37 PM
"2) An Animal Crossing MMO would not see release outside of Japan, NoA and NoE are obstinate in only wanting limited online functionality in the title."

Haha, whatever...Animal Crossing is made of money, and there's no way NCL would let NOA/NOE deny the game...
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_pap64 on November 10, 2007, 01:35:23 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
The reason why they even get payed attention to ias that some of them have come true, and some of those were explained in detail then later confirmed.


Some of them makes sense and have been speculated long before she/he posted them, like the KH one. Also, Nintendo is the type of company that hardly keeps a game Japan only so its expected that they will release anything that has their name and characters on it. Same thing with Square.

And some of the rumors seem a little too extreme, like they were made so they could spark highly heated debates online. Like Bill said, AC is a very popular franchise and Nintendo would NEVER keep it Japan only. And I'm also sure Square would love to have one of their characters in one of the most popular fighting games ever. Hell, they LOVE to milk the hell out of their franchise so why would they pass up another milking opportunity? The only real reason I can come up with as to why would Square drop out of the brawl is because they don't want one of their characters brawling with the likes of Link, Snake, Sonic and any other possible third party character.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Bartman3010 on November 11, 2007, 12:09:57 AM
I'm not sure if this has been brought up but apparently YesAsia brought up a listing of another anime-based game for the Wii from Bandai-Namco, based on Sailor Moon. Due by the end of the year.

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-games/pid-1004513672/

For some reason, I want it to be true.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 15, 2007, 03:49:32 AM
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Originally posted by: Bartman3010
I'm not sure if this has been brought up but apparently YesAsia brought up a listing of another anime-based game for the Wii from Bandai-Namco, based on Sailor Moon. Due by the end of the year.

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-games/pid-1004513672/

For some reason, I want it to be true.


Oh wow. For some reason... I do too.... lol.

Oh, and what about GameFly having a listing for a House of the Dead 2 & 3 Wii Compilation?
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Nick DiMola on November 15, 2007, 03:59:39 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Oh, and what about GameFly having a listing for a House of the Dead 2 & 3 Wii Compilation?


Oh hell yes, please let that be true. As for the AC thing, there is no way that won't come out in America after the success of both the Cube and DS ACs.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 16, 2007, 05:47:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Mr. Jack
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Oh, and what about GameFly having a listing for a House of the Dead 2 & 3 Wii Compilation?


Oh hell yes, please let that be true.


Well, that rumor had a short lifespan.

confirmed?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on November 16, 2007, 07:23:46 AM
Wow . . . HoTD3 looks god awful graphics wise from those screens, wtf?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 16, 2007, 07:38:54 AM
DC port?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 16, 2007, 07:56:29 AM
HotD3 never came to the DC, the only console it appeared on was the Xbox.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 16, 2007, 07:57:38 AM
Did it appear in arcades? Arcade hardware was uber-close to DC for awhile there... what was it called again? The Naoki board or something?
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 16, 2007, 08:04:47 AM
Naomi. I'm sure it appeared in arcades, but I think by that point Sega had a more advanced version of the Naomi hardware.
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on November 16, 2007, 08:45:02 AM
So why aren't they including the first House of the Dead?  Just seems arbitrary to exclude it.

Unless they want to sell that as a Saturn game on the VC.  Now watch that rumour spread with this "proof" following it.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Kairon on November 16, 2007, 08:48:26 AM
OMG! Saturn Support on VC! Please let this be TRUE!
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Mashiro on November 16, 2007, 09:52:06 AM
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Originally posted by: Kairon
OMG! Saturn Support on VC! Please let this be TRUE!


I see what you did there.
Title: RE:The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Smash_Brother on November 16, 2007, 01:49:03 PM
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Originally posted by: Mashiro
I see what you did there.


Yes, he confirmed Saturn support for the VC!!
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 21, 2007, 02:34:06 AM
RPG Magazine rumours...

- Square-Enix is considering bringing back Super Mario RPG by making a sequel on the DS. The sequel would include more characters from the Final Fantasy universe.
- Ogre Battle may be heading back to the Wii, and Yasumi Matsuno would be involved
- Camelot is bringing back the Golden Sun series by making a Wii installment. Fighting would be mostly focused on the Nunchuk.


All these recent Camelot rumours in the past half year are pissing me off... ;_;
Title: RE: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread (updated 10/29/2007)
Post by: Ian Sane on November 21, 2007, 03:04:24 AM
"Square-Enix is considering bringing back Super Mario RPG by making a sequel on the DS. The sequel would include more characters from the Final Fantasy universe."

You know it's been so long since the first game and Square Enix is so different now and Mario is so different now and I don't want this limited to a portable and so many sequels that have come out years after the first game haven't lived up to the original and yet... I still want to see this.  I guess I just like Super Mario RPG so much that I'll risk being let down by a sequel on the off chance that it delivers.
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Post by: Stogi on November 21, 2007, 05:28:20 AM
so many sequels that have come out years after the first game haven't lived up to the original

Contra 4 says hello.
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Post by: Ian Sane on November 21, 2007, 06:27:20 AM
"Contra 4 says hello."

That's why I said "so many" instead of "most".
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on November 21, 2007, 10:57:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
RPG Magazine rumours...

- Ogre Battle may be heading back to the Wii, and Yasumi Matsuno would be involved


Ogre Battle, not Tactics Ogre plz.
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Post by: Kenology on November 21, 2007, 11:25:44 PM
Yes!  Another Ogre Battle rumor!  Hopefully this means that it truly is in the works...  Here's what I said a few pages back:

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Dunno if someone posted this one yet, but according to EGM's Quatermann:

Final Fantasy Tactics director Yasumi Matsuno (who also conceived and directed Tactics Ogre [SNES] and Vagrant Story [PS1], etc...) is wrangling together some of his old pals who worked on past SRPG titlles like Ogre Battle (SNES) to piece together an exclusive Wii game very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics.


Please let this be a sequel to Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together!  And I'd rather be in the vien of Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen and Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Calibur as opposed to Tactics Ogre and FFT - but I'll take what I can get.  Damn I hope this is true...


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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 10, 2007, 01:11:39 PM
Guess what was brought up in IGN's latest Wii-k in Review?  They say that "Golden Sun Wii is all but confirmed"...

IGNNNNNNNNN!
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Post by: Stogi on December 10, 2007, 01:52:43 PM
WHOOT!

I expected this game at launch, and then some online PC golf game shattered my hopes and dreams.

GS is really the only JRPG series I love (Tales is aight); and this game is a perfect fit for the Wii. All those telekinesis powers could easily be gesture paced, making for some interesting multiple power possibilities. So please.....please be true!
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Post by: Mario on December 11, 2007, 07:38:07 AM
You expected Golden Sun Wii at launch? Really? With Camelots track record? If it's confirmed now we should be playing it in 2009. Sweet. I'll believe it when I see it though.
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Post by: Stogi on December 12, 2007, 05:21:22 AM
Yes, I did...........very much so. So much so, in fact, that I didn't buy a Wii because it wasn't at launch.

As for Camelots track record, I'm not sure what you mean. When I got into GS, these games were already out and at discounted prices.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 21, 2008, 03:32:02 PM
So apparently there is a rumor going around that Retro studios is being dissolved and/or that all their top people quit. Anyone have info?
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Post by: Ian Sane on April 22, 2008, 11:56:40 AM
Retro dissolving would absolutely suck because we never got to see them make anything but Metroid Prime.  They have such obvious talent.  Who doesn't want to see what else they're capable of?

Where is the rumour coming from?  Any links?
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Post by: Kairon on April 22, 2008, 12:13:12 PM
Retro being dissolved makes... so little sense in my head... right now..
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 22, 2008, 12:42:35 PM
SurferGirl is the source of the rumor http://softrockhallelujah.blogspot.com/

Casamassina and Bozon mentioned it on last night's IGN Nintendo podcast and didn't think it was plausible.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2008, 01:07:28 PM
BUT THEY'RE MAKING THE NEW ZELDA
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 22, 2008, 01:10:49 PM
I don't think even Ian thinks Nintendo is stupid enough to break up Retro, and why would their top people stay with the company while they were forced to keep making Metroid games and then leave when they're (presumably) given more creative freedom.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on April 22, 2008, 01:13:22 PM
I've heard Surfer Girl thrown out there for a bunch of rumors, but I have no idea what her credibility is. How often is she correct, is there any possibility she could be credible on such a huge accusation?

If true, this BLOWS.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 22, 2008, 01:20:16 PM
I'd think it's only plausible if Nintendo had the people in question under contract until MP3 was done, and now they're taking the opportunity to leave, or if Nintendo isn't giving them the creative freedom they've earned after all.  The pessimist in me doesn't find the latter possibility as easy to dismiss as I'd like, but I think this rumor's most likely bunk.
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Post by: Ian Sane on April 22, 2008, 04:30:17 PM
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I don't think even Ian thinks Nintendo is stupid enough to break up Retro, and why would their top people stay with the company while they were forced to keep making Metroid games and then leave when they're (presumably) given more creative freedom.

Perhaps Nintendo isn't giving them that creative freedom and enough key members are leaving as a result.  Thus with enough people leaving Nintendo feels it's better to split Retro up instead of replacing people.  That's the only logical explanation I can think of.

I can however think of many illogical reasons and with Nintendo that can frequently be closer to their line of thinking. ;)
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Post by: Nick DiMola on April 23, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
Looks like there is some truth to this.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52373
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 23, 2008, 05:00:42 PM
This makes me angry, But we don't know the whole story.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on April 23, 2008, 05:13:41 PM
Looks like there is some truth to this.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52373


Well the article also says that they've learned Retro is in no danger of closing either.

It's sad to see key members of the studio left though.  Of course I remember reading about some key members leaving after Prime 1 was done, but Prime 2 and 3 still ended up great games.  So if Retro still has enough good talent left then this loss shouldn't effect things too much.

Well I hope not since some gaming studio's have gone to complete sh!t in the past when certion members leave.  Kind of shows you who the real talent at the studio's was then.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2008, 07:10:15 PM
According to Wikipedia about 60 people work for Retro, so if it's just those three, even if they are very important people the loss of them shouldn't suddenly make Retro horrible. Hopefully.
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Post by: Adrock on April 23, 2008, 10:07:01 PM
Not to belittle their contribution to Retro, but they'll be replaced. People, even key staff members, leave companies ALL THE TIME. It happens. Everyone moves on.

Also, I don't know why anyone was worried about Retro possibly closing. I love how small news stories blow up when there's nothing else to report.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 23, 2008, 11:04:19 PM
Why did they leave? Could it have something to do with them being forced to do absolutely nothing but churn out Metroid Prime games one after another? I can see how someone might get sick of that.

Come on Nintendo, let Retro do something else for a change!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2008, 11:18:51 PM
Why did they leave? Could it have something to do with them being forced to do absolutely nothing but churn out Metroid Prime games one after another? I can see how someone might get sick of that.

Come on Nintendo, let Retro do something else for a change!

We don't know what they're doing next, but we do know that it's not another Metroid game, they are definitely doing something else.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 23, 2008, 11:31:52 PM
I hope they aren't making Zelda. or another Metroid. For their sake as much as anyones'.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on April 24, 2008, 07:10:23 AM
I hope they aren't making Zelda. or another Metroid. For their sake as much as anyones'.

Well after Prime 3, Retro said the next game they make wont be another Metroid game.  Plus there's no reason for them to make a Zelda game, when Aonuma has a very large team at EAD who's purpose is to work on Zelda games.  So I think it's safe to say, the next Retro game won't be a Metroid or Zelda. 

Of course there might be something to that Kid Icarus revival that Matt Casamassina has been talking about forever now.  Since Retro did such a good job with Metroid, I wouldn't rule out Nintendo wanting them to update another classic series like that.
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Post by: Adrock on April 24, 2008, 01:56:56 PM
Retro working on Kid Icarus doesn't make much sense either. I thought they wanted to work on something different. If they get Kid Icarus, Nintendo has basically just relegated them to the status of revival house. Might as well give them Star Tropics and Radar Scope while they're at it......

Nintendo shouldn't "waste" Retro on older franchises. I want a sequel to Kid Icarus, but I also want an original title from Retro. Conundrum! Nintendo could always nurture a new team like they did with Retro and give them Kid Icarus. At least we can rest easier knowing that Nintendo won't let thier old franchises crash and burn under a new developer since there's precedence for them not doing that.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2008, 02:08:06 PM
Plus there's no reason for them to make a Zelda game, when Aonuma has a very large team at EAD who's purpose is to work on Zelda games.  So I think it's safe to say, the next Retro game won't be a Metroid or Zelda.

Normally I'd agree, but with that recent Miyamoto interview where he talked about wanting to get the Japanese to start liking FPSers, plus the rumour of Retro developing a Zelda spinoff, and that Retro has an amazing FPS Wii control scheme, it's very easy to put two and two and two together and come up with the possibility that Retro is working on a first-person Zelda game...

Yeah it's crazy, but it also could tie in with any possible creative direction issues going on between Nintendo and Retro...
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 24, 2008, 02:37:31 PM
Where is that interview?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
Right at the bottom... (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167443)

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"The first-person shooter market in Japan -- for whatever reason, people just don't like them," he notes. "My hope is that we can convince Japanese gamers who until now haven't played first-person shooters to play those games in a way that they can enjoy them. We're preparing to release the Wii Zapper in Japan. Our hope is that by releasing it with Link's Crossbow Training, the Zapper can give gamers an easier way to appreciate shooters, and at the same time open the door for all the really high-quality shooters being developed in the U.S. to make their way to Japan."
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Post by: Adrock on April 24, 2008, 02:52:03 PM
...and that Retro has an amazing FPS Wii control scheme....
As long as it doesn't involve switching visors....

Also, don't see the Zelda spin-off thing happening. What would a spin-off entail? Play as Zelda? I'd just wonder why that wasn't just part of a main series game. Play as Ganondorf? He's not that interesting as far villains go. He's a pretty flat character with a one track mind (i.e. wants power). He's a plot point, plain and simple. He exists in the Zelda series so players have a goal to complete. Could they make him more interesting for a spin-off? Yeah, I guess, but why? Or more importantly, why not make him more interesting in the main series (which they kind of did in Wind Waker)? That way, when I see him, I care and more than just simple, petty nostalgia.

I guess I just find Zelda much harder to spin-off from than say Mario or Pokemon. They could make a full fledged Zelda RPG, but then, why not just make a new IP? Any spin-off could potentially be a brand new property, one which doesn't have to adhere to the rules of an older franchise. If Nintendo is worried about new IPs selling, include a demo and a trailer with their big titles.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2008, 02:59:06 PM
Or how about a spinoff where you play as Link?

A spinoff doesn't need to imply a drastic change of cast, but a change in perspective from what is expected from the main series...Just like the Four Swords games and Link's Crossbow Training are considered spinoffs because the game is played differently...

As for how the planning for such a game could pop into existence?  Don't ask me, I don't have a clue how these sorts of decisions are made...We already know Nintendo wants to take the series into a new direction, first-person is one such direction (a direction that Miyamoto is now mysteriously interested in garnering interest for in Japan), and there's a first-party developer that has said experience in the first-person perspective...It's only a possibility, but it's far from bogus...
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Post by: Smoke39 on April 24, 2008, 03:12:39 PM
Didn't Miyamoto or Aonuma say in an interview once that they experimented with first person sword combat in TP at one point?
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Post by: Adrock on April 24, 2008, 03:22:08 PM
Or how about a spinoff where you play as Link?

A spinoff doesn't need to imply a drastic change of cast, but a change in perspective from what is expected from the main series...Just like the Four Swords games and Link's Crossbow Training are considered spinoffs because the game is played differently...
I'm aware of the nature of spin-offs so I don't need an explanation from you. I was only offering suggestions........

Still, why not just make a new IP?

And I'd say the only reason Miyamoto is suddenly interested in First Person Shooters is because 3rd parties aren't taking the Wii seriously as a console for "hardcore" gaming and the FPS, a "hardcore" gamer's genre, are more or less the best and easiest way to showcase the Wii remotes abilities. Makes sense to me anyway.....
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 24, 2008, 03:28:45 PM
I remember Miyamoto expressing interest in FPSes on Wii way back before it even launched.  He may indeed be disappointed by the relative lack of them coming from third parties so far.

Maybe he's making Retro make Geist 2, and that's why those guys quit.  :D
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2008, 03:31:07 PM
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Still, why not just make a new IP?

This is Nintendo...Miyamoto especially is fond of using Nintendo characters with new gameplay formulas, as we all know, for better or for worse (Personally, I don't think Mario Galaxy would have been any better if it started a new original cast...)

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And I'd say the only reason Miyamoto is suddenly interested in First Person Shooters is because 3rd parties aren't taking the Wii seriously as a console for "hardcore" gaming and the FPS, a "hardcore" gamer's genre, are more or less the best and easiest way to showcase the Wii remotes abilities. Makes sense to me anyway.....

Point taken, but I don't really understand why he would specifically mention the Japanese...I don't believe slightly improved Japanese sales of western FPSers would make that much of an effect on 3rd party support of the Wii...The only thing I personally think would cause Miyamoto to make a statement like this is if Nintendo itself was preparing a big internal FPS themselves...

Maybe he's making Retro make Geist 2, and that's why those guys quit.  :D

Hey, if I were told to make Geist 2 I'd be all over it... =(
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Post by: Deguello on April 24, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
If Super Mario Galaxy were an original IP, it would have been Dale's Planet Jumper Deluxe and sold three hundred copies, all to one Kiwanis Club in Marietta, GA.

Those that clamored for original IP would have ignored it, wondering "where the hell Mario is?" or asking "Why does Nintendo rely on franchises so much?"  The same thing happened with the GBA and also somehow the DS still gets this charge lobbied at it from time to time.  People like Ian Sane moan for Original IP lament franchises, and then proceed to not show interest when Original IP shows up, in favor of more moaning for original IP and lamenting franchises.

It's a cycle that's easy to see if you simply read old forums posts.
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Post by: Adrock on April 24, 2008, 03:52:15 PM
Personally, I don't think Mario Galaxy would have been any better if it started a new original cast...
Galaxy also wasn't a spin-off. I'm not opposed to Nintendo releasing main series games. Spin offs just seem pointless to me because that spin-off could have been an original IP.
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Point taken, but I don't really understand why he would specifically mention the Japanese...I don't believe slightly improved Japanese sales of western FPSers would make that much of an effect on 3rd party support of the Wii...The only thing I personally think would cause Miyamoto to make a statement like this is if Nintendo itself was preparing a big internal FPS themselves...
Well, I would imagine that Miyamoto is hoping for more than "slightly improved Japanese sales of western FPSers." The success of more "hardcore" games of any genre would encourage Japanese 3rd parties to make more "hardcore" Wii games. FPS games just happen to be the perfect fit for the Wii.
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Post by: animecyberrat on April 24, 2008, 04:15:45 PM
What if those guys who left all end up at Rare and turn the company around. Just a random thought.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2008, 04:20:46 PM
Rare's problem was management, not the actual development (they kept and still keep missing milestones), so they wouldn't make any difference... =)
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 24, 2008, 05:25:20 PM
I think the ex-Retro peoples see that the freedom of WiiWare is the future. GIVE US A HARD DRIVE NINTENDO.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 25, 2008, 01:24:56 AM
Retro working on Kid Icarus doesn't make much sense either. I thought they wanted to work on something different. If they get Kid Icarus, Nintendo has basically just relegated them to the status of revival house. Might as well give them Star Tropics and Radar Scope while they're at it......

Nintendo shouldn't "waste" Retro on older franchises. I want a sequel to Kid Icarus, but I also want an original title from Retro. Conundrum! Nintendo could always nurture a new team like they did with Retro and give them Kid Icarus. At least we can rest easier knowing that Nintendo won't let thier old franchises crash and burn under a new developer since there's precedence for them not doing that.

In all seriousness, I always thought the name "Retro" represented the purpose of the studio; which is to re-make old games,,, doesn't the word Retro literally mean to bring old stuff back to the forefront? I always thought it did, but I could be wrong. Anyways, I thought that's why they were behind Metroid and the rumors they are involved in Kid Icarus.
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Post by: Adrock on May 08, 2008, 11:22:12 PM
So the cocktease Kid Icarus Wii rumors are back, this time with some proposed artwork.... ironically showing Pit as a man... Kid Icarus featuring Pit as a man..... one of which clearly looks inspired by God of War.

Seriously, are the people who make up thse rumors even trying anymore?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 09, 2008, 12:04:35 AM
If you want to get technical, the art is not supposed to represent what the game will look like if it exists...(Concept art first shown when Factor 5 supposedly brought their idea to Nintendo...)

(And frankly, excluding Pit's appearance from Brawl, I think Ninty could do whatever they want with Kid Icarus, even as far as making him an adult...as long as it's good! =D)
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Post by: Crimm on May 09, 2008, 01:29:38 AM
Those images are fake.  I assure you 100% there is not one iota of reality around them.

All the signs are there, but only one needs to be pointed out:

A generic gaming blog (not even a major one) got ahold of classified artwork shared between two secretive companies and are now being linked to left and right.

Can you say "HEY!  LOOK AT US!"? Kombo sure did!
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Post by: Nick DiMola on May 09, 2008, 04:57:08 AM
Those images are fake.  I assure you 100% there is not one iota of reality around them.

All the signs are there, but only one needs to be pointed out:

A generic gaming blog (not even a major one) got ahold of classified artwork shared between two secretive companies and are now being linked to left and right.

Can you say "HEY!  LOOK AT US!"? Kombo sure did!

QFT. I don't have a problem with any of the art if it was true, but come on! There is no damn way these guys got a hold of something this massive.
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Post by: vudu on May 09, 2008, 11:32:52 AM
Can someone link to the artwork for those of us too lazy to find it ourselves?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 09, 2008, 01:17:49 PM
Looks like I have to play Defense Force even though I don't really care...I just find the reasons for it "being fake" silly...A small site getting "a massive story"?  It's concept art that sounds like it's nothing like what the game would look like...

Small sites and random GameFaqs people get a hold of information all the time, unless people have already forgotten Brawl...As for AMN (Kombo), the one major news story that I can recall is when they said that Silicon Knights was having issues with the UE3 engine, and SK denied it, and they were called out for making news up...And we all know what happened with that, right?  Not to mention that AMN has been claiming Factor 5 has been working on Kid Icarus for quite a while now, long before IGN started doing it, so it's not like they are just riding the coattails of another site's rumours...

Of course, I'm sure if the game does turn out to exist many will claim it to be coincidence, but eh, whatever...

Here you go, vudu... (http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=11895)
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Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2008, 02:12:59 PM
There was no doubt in my mind that those images were fake. I was just commenting on how poorly constructed the rumor was.
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Post by: vudu on May 09, 2008, 02:16:36 PM
Some of those images look like they're straight out of Eternity's Child.
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Post by: RedBlue on May 09, 2008, 02:56:07 PM
I loved the photoshop wings on the dude those are some skills. :)
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Post by: Crimm on May 09, 2008, 09:52:33 PM
I'm sorry, these are clearly fake.
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Post by: Deep-Six on May 12, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
I'd bet my Wii that thoes are indeed real and here's why, IGN whe seems to know alot about the game (more then we know anyway) were talking about it in there newest podcast.  First Matt says its one of his top three most wanted Wii games and says that whoever working on the game will make it look "pretty"  Then later on he talks about Facter 5 and says they are working on one of the titles Matt mentioned in his top 3.  Basecally its pretty obvious that a new Kidd Icarus is coming and from IGN's clues its being made by Factor 5.  Part of the rumer with the art states that Facter 5 has a part in the game and if that part is true I beleve the Concept art is also.  Plus, with Factor 5 having made Lair, I'm sure they're pretty willing to to stay with the midevil/Fanticy theam.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on May 12, 2008, 02:04:26 PM
Well here's another rumor that could actually be true.  The rumor is that Platinum Games, a studio that's made of former Clover employee's has struck a deal with Sega to publish 3 of their games.  According to this rumor, one of these games is a title called MadWorld that will be for the Wii.  It's supposed to be a stylish ultra violent game from the description.

http://kotaku.com/5008698/sega-and-platinum-games-join-forces
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2008, 02:07:56 PM
That seems like a crazy jump from Okami to "MadWorld"... =(

Gimme another beautiful epic!
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Post by: vudu on May 12, 2008, 02:09:38 PM
That seems like a crazy jump from Okami to "MadWorld"... =(

Wouldn't it be a logical progression from God Hand to MadWorld?  ;)
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 12, 2008, 02:10:34 PM
As long as it has nothing to do with the Gary Joules song, bring it on.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on May 12, 2008, 04:29:45 PM
To add to this "rumor" (that sounds more like someone broke NDA from the Sega Gamer's Day thing), Shigenori Nishikawa is the director of MadWorld...He did work on game design for Resident Evil 4, so it appears to be in good hands...

And the DS title is being handled by Nudemaker (Steel Battalion)...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 13, 2008, 08:48:42 AM
The Man Icarus thing is totally believable cuz his resurrection is a bad idea.

And it looks like we just have bad ideas so far.
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Post by: EasyCure on May 13, 2008, 10:57:27 AM
As long as it has nothing to do with the Gary Joules song, bring it on.

ITS NOT BY GARY JOULES!!!

sorry, you probably know that i just really really hate people that claim that (and any other cover) to be by someone that isn't the original artist.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 13, 2008, 10:59:01 AM
As long as it has nothing to do with the Gary Joules song, bring it on.

ITS NOT BY GARY JOULES!!!

sorry, you probably know that i just really really hate people that claim that (and any other cover) to be by someone that isn't the original artist.

Even if it isn't, that song still SUCKS
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Post by: BeautifulShy on May 15, 2008, 11:29:07 PM
There is a rumor saying that Shenmue 1 and 2 are coming to the Wii. Http://buttonbandits.com/2008/05/16/rumour-shenmue-1-and-2-being-ported-to-wii/
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 15, 2008, 11:41:26 PM
This damn well better be true, and if it's not I'm going to go to Sega HQ and politely ask them at gunpoint to make it true. I never even finished the first one because I was pissed at Sega for whoring the sequel out to Microsoft. If this is true true it'll be the first time people in North America can play through both games on the same save file, except for the people who chose to import from Europe and go through the extensive process of converting the save file (something I was considering). If this does happen I order all of you to buy it so Sega has no choice but to make a new Shenmue game for the Wii.
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Post by: Smoke39 on May 15, 2008, 11:57:49 PM
If this does happen I order all of you to buy it so Sega has no choice but to make a new Shenmue game for the Wii.
I will if you buy EarthBound when it comes to the VC. :3
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 16, 2008, 12:44:25 AM
LOL I quite like the first Shenmue. Bring it on!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 16, 2008, 01:27:08 AM
I already have 800 points reserved for Earthbound, I've wanted to play it for so long.
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Post by: Smoke39 on May 16, 2008, 12:30:52 PM
Then we have a deal. o:

I'm actually kind of curious about it anyway. :b
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Post by: Kairon on May 16, 2008, 12:39:49 PM
If this does happen I order all of you to buy it so Sega has no choice but to make a new Shenmue game for the Wii.

I'll buy two! Wait... I'm already getting two... that'd give me... umm.... four?
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Post by: IceCold on May 16, 2008, 08:42:23 PM
This damn well better be true, and if it's not I'm going to go to Sega HQ and politely ask them at gunpoint to make it true.

Agreed. I've said it since the controller was revealed - Sega's franchises are perfect for the Wii. Too bad their personnel is less than perfect now, but there's still lots of potential. I especially want Panzer Dragoon - that would be incredible.
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Post by: animecyberrat on May 16, 2008, 09:53:02 PM
Shenmue is actually a pretty good game, that was the other game I have for DC, damn I need to get a stupid power cable for my DC now so I can finish it up because I forgot I even had this game.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 16, 2008, 10:31:55 PM
Shenmue was clunky in hindsight, sorta like Resident Evil stiffness meets Zelda adventuring meets Kung Fu movie script, with occasional fights.

But Shenmue II PAL was great for its time.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 17, 2008, 01:29:07 AM
Shenmue II had better be good. The first one it doesn't matter as much because of all the nostalgia I have for it (Who needs Saturn on the VC when I've got one in my room in Shenmue?).
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 17, 2008, 03:58:11 AM
Well, only the PAL version was good. (no engrish voicing)

it was one massive subtitled martial arts flick
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Post by: animecyberrat on May 17, 2008, 07:47:57 PM
Shenmue was for Dreamcast not Saturn.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 17, 2008, 09:12:01 PM
I still maintain that canceling the US release of Shenmue II on the DC and making it an Xbox exclusive was the worst thing Sega ever did. Worse than the Genesis add-ons, worse than the price of the Saturn, worse than the PS3/360 Sonic The Hedgehog (remember to capitalize the The, Sega registered The as Sonic's middle name as part of the trademark in order to make sure it was capitalized).
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Post by: The Omen on June 02, 2008, 05:14:36 PM
Just so you guys know, one of the rumors I heard about last year may be coming to fruition tomorrow.  I can't get a confirmation from the guy, but I think it's Dead Rising.  It's the only Capcom game besides Mega Man that I didn't receive a "no" about when I was quizzing him.  I could possibly be reading too much into it, but this same person told me Dead Rising was a certainty a long time ago, so kind of odd he doesn't say anything now.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2008, 05:17:30 PM
CAPCOM TO RELEASE SHENMUE PERFECT COLLECTION EX
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Post by: Louieturkey on June 03, 2008, 12:19:19 PM
http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/06/03/capcom-reveals-sci-fi-spyborgs/ (http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/06/03/capcom-reveals-sci-fi-spyborgs/)
Looks like the next Capcom Wii Exclusive is Spyborgs.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 03, 2008, 04:20:02 PM
With a name like that it has to be good!
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 12, 2008, 01:17:14 AM
Can someone be so kind as to provide a run down of all the rumors that have happened in this thread over the last 6 months?

I would like to get caught up and maybe update the OP.

thanx
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 12, 2008, 06:30:04 AM
~ More Golden Sun for Wii rumours
~ Retro in trouble (ended up in three members leaving/being fired)
~ More Kid Icarus for Wii rumours (by Factor 5)
~ Madworld for Wii by Platinum Games (ended up true)
~ Shenmue for Wii
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 27, 2008, 09:50:43 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/CONFUZZLED_MUNKIE/11h9bon.jpg)

I wonder what this could be. I'm actually glad that Future Publishing now runs Nintendo Power since they are sure taking names and kicking ass.
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Post by: ShyGuy on June 27, 2008, 10:01:05 AM
Little King Story is my guess. Or perhaps Golden Sun.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on June 27, 2008, 10:18:26 AM
Some People are Guessing Kingdom Hearts 3...

Because KING, HEART, and 3...are all in the story together.

Personally, I would not want Kingdom Hearts 3.  I would rather a Kingdom Hearts spinoff with Nintendo characters instead of Disney.  Truthfully the PS3 should get Kingdom Hearts 3 so that the series can all be on the same platform.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 27, 2008, 10:20:24 AM
Maybe it will have Nintendo character's in the version :P
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Post by: ShyGuy on June 27, 2008, 10:23:52 AM
That would be almost too awesome.

Is there enough Nintendo "worlds" for Sora to visit?

Mario
Donkey Kong
Zelda
Metroid
Pikmin
Kirby
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 27, 2008, 10:34:12 AM
I'm sorry but the King is none other than the monach of Castle Vidcons.
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Post by: Strell on June 27, 2008, 10:38:29 AM
Don't get your hopes up.  This is NP.

I'm guessing whatever news they dish out is something we've known for a good long while.

Hey!  Maybe it's Castlevania Judgement!  They could make it two-for-two with Castlevania rumors.

Oh, and be sure to **** all over my desperate want of Mother 3, Nintendo!  Classy!
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Post by: Spak-Spang on June 27, 2008, 10:48:50 AM
Well If Nintendo was to create a Kingdom Hearts game with SquareEnix I think there are enough Nintendo Worlds.

Pikmin,
Mario,
Zelda,
Metroid,
Kirby,
Pokemon,
F-Zero,
Starfy,
Elite Beat Agents???
Animal Crossing,
Fire Emblem,
Advance Wars,
World of Miis,
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Post by: BeautifulShy on June 27, 2008, 11:31:10 AM
Hmm looking at the words it could be Kingdom Hearts, My Little King.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 27, 2008, 12:27:31 PM
I don't get "It's got a lot of heart.  Just kidding."  What does that refer to?

Edit:  That being a Kingdom Hearts joke seems a little tenuous to me.  I still wonder if it's supposed to refer to something else.
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Post by: vudu on June 27, 2008, 12:29:00 PM
I think that's just part of making fun of Mother 3 fans.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 27, 2008, 12:45:09 PM
Wizards & Warriors, by Zoonami.
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Post by: nickmitch on June 27, 2008, 02:26:49 PM
Well If Nintendo was to create a Kingdom Hearts game with SquareEnix I think there are enough Nintendo Worlds.

Pikmin,
Mario,
Zelda,
Metroid,
Kirby,
Pokemon,
F-Zero,
Starfy,
Elite Beat Agents???
Animal Crossing,
Fire Emblem,
Advance Wars,
World of Miis,


Starfox
Wario Ware
Kid Icarus
Yoshi
DK

The list goes on.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on June 27, 2008, 03:15:42 PM
I can see the importance of

Kid Icarus and
Donkey Kong...I am upset I forgot those.

Would you really separate Wario from the Mario universe?  I wouldn't, same with Yoshi.

Star Fox, would be a very fun world to explore in an RPG.

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Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 27, 2008, 03:25:31 PM
I think Wario could be separated because the Wario Ware games defined a separate universe from Mario with its own characters and art style, like the DKC games did for Donkey Kong. I separate the Yoshi series of games from the Mario series but they're clearly the same universe.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 27, 2008, 04:14:18 PM
Is Tingle now separate from the Zelda franchise?
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 27, 2008, 04:27:26 PM
Tingle had one spin-off. I don't know if it included memorable characters or not because I never played it. I'd argue that you need more than one game to have your own separate universe, and you have to have enough original stuff in it to justify calling it its own universe. Yoshi fails because every good game of his has included characters from the Mario universe.
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Post by: Kairon on June 27, 2008, 05:02:36 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/CONFUZZLED_MUNKIE/11h9bon.jpg)

Gee NP, rip my heart out of my chest, throw it on the pavement, and stomp on it why don't ya?
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Post by: animecyberrat on June 27, 2008, 05:08:12 PM
Is it Kingdom Hearts then?


Quote
Star Fox, would be a very fun world to explore in an RPG.

It would but just like Star Fox Adventures it will get a lot of undeserved hate by the fans and fall into obscurity.
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Post by: vudu on June 30, 2008, 11:43:17 AM
Is it Kingdom Hearts then?

It's most likely Fire Emblem DS.
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Post by: norebonomis on July 14, 2008, 10:10:49 AM
hey folks! long time since i've logged into these forums...
any recent zelda rumors? any active threads on the next zelda... or am i jumping the gun way to soon?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 14, 2008, 10:19:20 AM
Zelda Fighter included with WiiMotionPrus!
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Post by: norebonomis on July 14, 2008, 10:39:48 AM
lol, Link's Goron Boxing Trainer Sim?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 14, 2008, 11:57:31 AM
There is news that the wiimote is going to have 1:1 controls and everybody is going crazy over the news.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 14, 2008, 12:23:44 PM
I hope and pray that there is no Zelda fighting game. 
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 14, 2008, 04:43:53 PM
I hope and pray that there is no Zelda fighting game. 

Why not? You won't have to buy it, but what does it hurt if they make it? Just as long as they make regular Zelda games too then I see no problem.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 14, 2008, 04:58:46 PM
there's no need for an all zelda fighter when you can already be the series main characters in brawl, so i wouldnt worry about Zelda: Hyrule Hyper Fighting Spak.

besides who else would you play as other than:

Link
Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf (Ganon would probably be the final boss of such a game)
and maybe Zant and Midna

Hm.. Tingle would be the joke character.. Maybe you can do stuff with Tetra. Anyone else i can think of for a zelda-themed fighter would be a generic baddy like Stalfos or Iron Knuckles. Maybe they can brink back the mysterious old man that gives you your Sword in the first LOZ game, make him the most badass character in the game.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 14, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
They could make a Zelda fighter just based on the characters from Twilight Princess alone.

Just think about a fighting game involving these characters with their own special moves and such:

Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Midna
Human Midna
Hena
Iza
Coro
Jovani
Barnes
Agitha
Renado
That annoying postman dude

et cetera...

So just TP alone has enough characters to make a fighter game out of. Plus you got all the other Zelda games as well.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 14, 2008, 08:33:59 PM
But the point of Zelda is not to just needlessly fight in an arena. 

If Zelda was JUST a fighting game.  Hell, if it was just a brawler with endless item and weapons fighting it would be a boring and non-magical game.

Zelda has always and will always be about exploring a fantasy world in real time.  Fighting, puzzling, helping others in a quest to save Hyrule and to a less extent to save your Destiny...Princess Zelda.

Look at what happened when Nintendo tried to change the genre of Zelda we got the Wii Zapper with a Zelda FPS and target practice that was pretty irrelevant. 

Nintendo already has a great fighter in Smash Bros.  And that game was just released...we don't need to dilute Zelda with a fighting game.  Instead, Nintendo would do better to help Lucas Arts develop Clone Wars into a fantastic 1to1 fighting game, which we all desperately want outta of that game...and would basically be Zelda Fighting.

I do want the new MotionPlus controller used with the new Zelda.  I see it being used to help make the game more immersive   in all aspects of game play.

1)Actually manipulating the environment puzzles, pulling chains, latches, and basically manipulating puzzles to make every puzzle feel new and unique.

2) New 1to1 combat with all items and new items and several new ways to use classic items.

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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 20, 2008, 05:29:43 PM
OK here is another rumor. Pikmin 3 is going to be released on March 27th,2009.
Here (http://Http://nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/07/20/rumor-Pikmin-3-to-bloom-next-march/) is the rumor.
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Post by: nickmitch on July 20, 2008, 05:57:46 PM
I'm calling malarkey on this one. If that was really the European date, then we would have the game in the US by now.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 20, 2008, 06:42:29 PM
Who knows if it really that date. If we look at Mario Kart and Brawl. Mario Kart was released before the US version and Brawl was released in at the end of June in the UK. So if we go by this we will have to get closer to that date to be sure or wait till Nintendo lets us know. Either way we got some waiting to do.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 20, 2008, 09:49:04 PM
Well Pikmin 3 still could be a game for holiday 2008 in the US and Japan...or perhaps more likely just Japan...and then Europe gets it in March.  Or Europe could just get it first.  That rumor isn't so bold, since the fact that we know it is being worked on and Nintendo uses March as a big launch month.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 20, 2008, 09:59:47 PM
Does anybody know how long Pikmin 3 has been in development? If we knew that we can narrow down the release date.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 20, 2008, 10:14:41 PM
I doubt many that aren't actually working on the game know that information... ='D
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 20, 2008, 10:31:31 PM
Yeah your right.Darn
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Post by: Luigi Dude on July 21, 2008, 02:12:47 AM
Well since Nintendo's new policy is not to reveal games until they're almost done, Pikmin 3 could have been in development for years now, so a fall release date is very possible.  Or they could have started development last month and we wont see the game for another 2 years either.
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Post by: Dasmos on July 21, 2008, 09:36:04 AM
Pikmin 3 is basically ready now, Nintendo is just trying to get as many companies to sign on to have their product advertising in the game. It's gonna be huge!
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on July 21, 2008, 04:32:44 PM
Well since Nintendo's new policy is not to reveal games until they're almost done, Pikmin 3 could have been in development for years now, so a fall release date is very possible.  Or they could have started development last month and we wont see the game for another 2 years either.

Makes you wonder what else is just around the corner that they haven't announced yet. 2008 may contain a few more surprises yet..
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 21, 2008, 05:29:06 PM
2008 Better contain a few more surprises or I might not being a Nintendo published console game for the winter, and that hasn't happened in YEARS!!!
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Post by: redgiemental on July 23, 2008, 08:26:18 AM
I hate to be the barer of bad news Spak-Spang.

"You have seen the extent of Nintendo's 2008 holiday line-up," - Cammie Dunaway

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=200316
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Post by: Dasmos on July 23, 2008, 08:39:43 AM
I hate to be the voice of reason.

"Twilight Princess will not be a Wii game." - Regie Fils-Aime.

And do I need to remind you of all Perrin Kaplan's gaffes? Nothing is definite.
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Post by: redgiemental on July 23, 2008, 09:29:24 AM
I would think if they had anything else up their sleeves not only would they be aware of it, I would think that after the reception they got they would at least be hinting at having something more rather than ruling out the possibility.


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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 30, 2008, 09:15:55 PM
 Jet Grind Radio heading to Wii? (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=51086)
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 30, 2008, 09:31:51 PM
I hate to be the voice of reason.

"Twilight Princess will not be a Wii game." - Regie Fils-Aime.

And do I need to remind you of all Perrin Kaplan's gaffes? Nothing is definite.

Reggie was right.  We got a shoddy GameCube game, regardless of platform.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on July 31, 2008, 02:25:26 AM
Jet Grind Radio heading to Wii? (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=51086)

I'd buy it.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 31, 2008, 06:21:56 AM
The Jet Grind Radio for Wii...if it is a brand new game is fantastic...I would love that game for a long time.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on July 31, 2008, 02:25:59 PM
http://toucharcade.com/2008/07/31/segas-classic-jet-grind-radio-headed-for-the-iphone/

Nothing to see here folks, looks like it's just an iPhone port of the original game then.  Of course a Jet Grind Set Radio game for the Wii would work well, doesn't seem like it's happening now.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on October 07, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
Sega vs Capcom at TGS? (http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=4655)
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Post by: Spak-Spang on October 07, 2008, 03:01:37 PM
Sega Vs Capcom? 

Now that is weird. 

I think i would rather have Nintendo vs. Capcom...but then Sega does have more Fighting franchises.
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Post by: Adrock on October 07, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
Or Nintendo vs. Sega vs. Capcom..... at which point, they might as well just include every other 3rd party possible and create the biggest fanboygasm this universe has ever seen.

Also, Sega only really has Virtua Fighter, unless you count Fighting Vipers or Sonic the Fighters which I don't. In any case, a vs. game doesn't necessarily need fighting game characters to work (see: Smash).
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Post by: Luigi Dude on October 07, 2008, 05:07:38 PM
Or Nintendo vs. Sega vs. Capcom..... at which point, they might as well just include every other 3rd party possible and create the biggest fanboygasm this universe has ever seen.

I still expect to see a Nintendo vs Capcom one of these days.  Since Capcom loves to do these crossover games (Marvel, SNK, Namco, Tatsunoko, and maybe Sega now) it's only a matter of time.  Plus considering all the deals Nintendo and Capcom have made in the past and keep making with each other, the makes the chances of it happening even greater.

Of course I'm not expecting anything at the current time, but I do believe that sometime in the next 10 years we will see a Nintendo and Capcom crossover.
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Post by: Adrock on October 07, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
Sometime in the next 10 years? The safest bet anyone has ever made anywhere ever. ;)

Nintendo vs. Sega would've been epic 6 years ago, but Sega has instead spent these past 6 years making it seem less and less so.... not that I still wouldn't take such a game. A Nintendo vs. Capcom game intrigues me though I'm more intrigued by the aforementioned Nintendo vs. everyone battle royale.

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Post by: Bill Aurion on October 16, 2008, 07:42:10 AM
"The Calling" (http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/2008/10/hudson-to-announce-new-horror-title-for.html) by Hudson will be announced sometime in the near future, according to some leaked PR videos...

I don't mind another horror game for Wii, particularly one that looks this interesting!  (Very Fatal Frame-inspired)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2008, 08:01:25 AM
"The Calling" (http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/2008/10/hudson-to-announce-new-horror-title-for.html) by Hudson will be announced sometime in the near future, according to some leaked PR videos...

I don't mind another horror game for Wii, particularly one that looks this interesting!  (Very Fatal Frame-inspired)
That dos look kinda creepy. I'll keep an eye out for that one. is fatal frame out yet?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on October 16, 2008, 08:03:45 AM
In Japan, yes...No word on a localization yet... =\
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 16, 2008, 09:06:53 AM
That reminds me a bit of the gameplay of Penumbra.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on November 03, 2008, 09:29:46 PM
http://kotaku.com/5075338/thq-ceo-+-difficult-economic-environment-to-blame-for-layoffs

Well it seems that THQ is having a difficult time surviving in this economic climate.

http://kotaku.com/5075080/thq-shuttering-four-to-five-studios-including-paradigm-juice-%5Bupdate%5D

Well it turns out to be true.More as it comes.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on November 12, 2008, 11:39:40 PM
Well I found a rumor that is pretty big and not in a good way. EGM stated in the rumor section that Crystal Bearers has been canceled.

Well it turns out that that has no ounce of truth to it (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=62744)
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 12, 2008, 11:42:22 PM
Ah, I see maybe this is a case of the media experiementing with throwing their weight around? How would EGM ever have known this?
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Post by: Urkel on November 12, 2008, 11:56:48 PM
Didn't EGM say Oboru Muramasu Youtoden was cancelled just weeks before it reemerged, with confirmation of a North American release?

They're just pulling this stuff out of their asses.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on November 13, 2008, 12:02:20 AM
They don't. They just assume that because there was a new FF for Wii and DS coupled with not hearing anything on the Crystal Bearers for so long that the new ones replaced the old.

I have a saying for assumptions."When you assume something you make an ass out of you and me."
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 13, 2008, 12:14:09 AM
IGN also hinted at Kid Icarus Wii. They're just a bunch of idiots who want to feel important.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 13, 2008, 12:29:34 AM
I'll poop on their chests
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Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2008, 02:53:59 PM
Square Enix reaffirmed that the game is still in development, but I have a feeling it's still going to get cancelled. Monster Hunter 3 is going to change the entire game in Japan so much so that every other company is going to look at the hand their playing on the Wii and sh*t themselves.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on November 13, 2008, 03:11:44 PM
SquareEnix's response to rumors (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=62949)

I think that the game will still be released despite MHTWii being released.
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Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2008, 03:49:08 PM
Certainly a safer bet. I still think it's like bringing a knife to a gun fight. And I really don't want to here Square Enix innocently ponder about how they don't understand why a game like Crystal Bearers got its sh*t schooled by their higher profile releases on PS3/360 then chalk up the lower sales to Wii owners not wanting those types of games.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 13, 2008, 03:50:47 PM
They are two different genres, so why does it matter? =)
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Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
Because 3rd parties tend to lump games in terms of sales performance, not genre.

"Wah, wah, Wii owners only buy Nintendo's own games. Pony Land 3 and Ninja Party didn't sell as well as Super Mario Galaxy. Wait, maybe it's because Nintendo gives a damn about quality.... nah, it must be the Wii owners.... hopefully Pony Land 4: Ponies will do better against Wii Sports Resort."

Monster Hunter 3 is the first high profile game that a publisher flat-out chose to develop for the Wii and on top of that, it actually looks like Capcom gives a sh*t because it doesn't like like a 3DO game and they aren't toning down for casual gamers. That's why it matters. When MH3 rapes everything in its path in Japan, 3rd parties should finally wake up and realize that all they have to do is care and anything will sell on the Wii.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on November 13, 2008, 05:59:39 PM

Monster Hunter 3 is the first high profile game that a publisher flat-out chose to develop for the Wii and on top of that, it actually looks like Capcom gives a sh*t because it doesn't like like a 3DO game and they aren't toning down for casual gamers. That's why it matters. When MH3 rapes everything in its path in Japan, 3rd parties should finally wake up and realize that all they have to do is care and anything will sell on the Wii.

This is one of the reasons why I wouldn't doubt it if Nintendo teams up with Capcom to release a special Monster Hunter Wii bundle for the games release.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on November 29, 2008, 09:50:48 AM
Disaster:DoC to see NA release? (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=64589)
If true this is exciting news.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 03, 2008, 01:37:21 PM
 DQ IX may come out for Wii as well and be cross compatible with DS (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171621)

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Last month we learned exactly how the connectivity between the Wii and DS would work in the upcoming Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time, but if the latest rumor from Quartermann in the the January issue of EGM is to be believed, Square Enix will not stop there with the new technology. Our favorite gossip master has heard that the RPG giant will be bringing Dragon Quest IX: Protectors of the Starry Sky to the Wii as well as the DS.

While Dragon Quest IX being announced for the DS rather than a home console was a big enough surprise in the first place, fans of the long-running series were even more shocked to discover that this latest entry will sport faster-paced gameplay and a surprising MMO-lite option to play with up to four friends. Assuming this multiplayer mode works similarly to the DS-and-Wii-linking Echoes of Time, it makes sense that Square would bring DQIX to the console as well. The only question that remains is whether or not the Wii port will receive a graphical upgrade -- the Wii and DS versions of the new Crystal Chronicles are going to be identical, after all. Hopefully Square will confirm this news soon and give us more details.

If this is true Nintendo just sold a lot of Wiis.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 03, 2008, 01:46:14 PM
Fantastic, this ensures Skware doesn't work on real Final Fantasy games.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on December 04, 2008, 10:57:49 AM
Matt goes on about Kid Icarus again.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/935/935460p1.html

You know, if the game is really in actual development Nintendo should cancel it just to troll IGN.

Iwata: (laughs)

Miyamoto: (laughs)

Matt: (crys)
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on December 04, 2008, 12:13:49 PM
I couldn't disagree with Matt more on what the game should be like.  He just wants a God of War flight sim.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 04, 2008, 12:36:23 PM
Good god.  Kratos standing on an X-wing using a leash, fly around like SERPENTOR

CO-BRA - LALALALALALALALALALALALALALA
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 04, 2008, 12:47:35 PM
Serpentor was the point where G.I.Joe jumped the shark.

But seriously, should Kid Icarus Wii be more like Mario Galaxy meets Sega's Nights?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 04, 2008, 01:08:42 PM
More like Mario Galaxy meets RE4.  3D platforming with a free cursor to fire arrows anywhere anytime.  The camera doesn't have to be stuck to the aiming function, so it's like grabbing/shooting starbits as you pleased when Mario was jumping around however you made him.

Actually, it's like Mario Galaxy, period.

So it's like a faster Bee Mario but he has ranged weaponry.
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Post by: vudu on December 04, 2008, 01:46:46 PM
You mean like star bits?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 04, 2008, 02:11:31 PM
more like Skittles.
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Post by: Deguello on December 04, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Ugh I always hate it when journalists like Matt do that.  Its like that Diablo III tragedy, where people thought the rated M sequel wasn't "Dark" enough.  But Matt's always had terrible ideas for games.  Zelda fighter anyone?  It's like he subconsciously wants Nintendo to fail.

I can even imagine a likely scenario:

Matt has already seen the game, is displeased, and throws out his "expectations" so when Nintendo doesn't meet them, he can write more angry stuff that collect more hits.  "Wii is teh casual" is easy to write and will get hits from people who already don't like it.  In-depth investigative journalism is much harder.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 04, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
Matt's not a journalist, he runs an interweb business of posting text with ads.
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Post by: Stogi on December 04, 2008, 04:12:29 PM
I couldn't bring myself to read the 3 pages worth of bullshit. Hell, I could barely bring myself to click the link.

I've never played Kid Icarus and I'm sure there are many people who bought SSBB like me, who've never played Kid Icarus. It might as well be a new IP with an already established character model.

I like your idea Daisy. That sounds pretty cool (just as long as it doesn't involve planetoids).
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 04, 2008, 04:15:29 PM
Don't worry, flying Kratos destroys planetoids.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on December 04, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
Ugh I always hate it when journalists like Matt do that.  Its like that Diablo III tragedy, where people thought the rated M sequel wasn't "Dark" enough.  But Matt's always had terrible ideas for games.  Zelda fighter anyone?  It's like he subconsciously wants Nintendo to fail.

I can even imagine a likely scenario:

Matt has already seen the game, is displeased, and throws out his "expectations" so when Nintendo doesn't meet them, he can write more angry stuff that collect more hits.  "Wii is teh casual" is easy to write and will get hits from people who already don't like it.  In-depth investigative journalism is much harder.

Actually, I bet ANYTHING that once Kid Icarus Wii is finally revealed the fanbase will throw a crap fest simply because its NOT what they were hoping for, and Matt will join the bandwagon, claiming Nintendo has ruined the series.

Really, all of these editorials and rumors are setting people up for major disappointment, and then somehow it will be Nintendo's fault.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 04, 2008, 10:33:04 PM
Kid Icarus will be resurrected as a Wii Party game for mom and grandma to play.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 05, 2008, 12:27:30 AM
Starring Gerard Butler as Pit.
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Post by: EasyCure on December 05, 2008, 07:16:51 AM
TONIGHT WE DINE IN THE FAMILY ROOM!
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Post by: Adrock on December 06, 2008, 01:03:02 AM
It was okay until "I'd prefer realism." What the hell? That would be horrible.

I'd prefer the art style to stay in line with Pit in Brawl (sans voice). The design wasn't perfect but it seemed a natural progression of an 80's character. In terms of gameplay, I'd love to see Nintendo release a 2D game. Not exactly like the original games, but certainly something that follows the series action/platforming roots and takes to another level. But, since Nintendo has no balls, we'll see a 3D game. It can't be like Zelda though. They aren't the same kind of games and if they were to make Kid Icarus like Zelda, why not just make it a Zelda game?
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Post by: Kairon on December 06, 2008, 01:19:22 AM
Whenever someone says they want ultra-realistic graphics for X classic game I want to... I want to.... punch....rrr....dandelions.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 06, 2008, 01:29:34 AM
Don't say Nintendo doesn't have balls. They're pretty much the only company willing to even make 2D games anymore. So Nintendo does have balls, and they are 2-dimensional balls at that. :P But yeah, you may be right... Icarus could go 3D. I was just saying Nintendo does still support 2D once and awhile, so it isn't something thats out of the question.

Now that I think about it, couldn't they actually do both? They could release a new 3D one for the Wii, and also put out a 2D remake kinda thing for the DS, ala NSMB. That way it would kinda be the best of both worlds, and none of the fans would get pissed off (well, except Ian, but then again I think he just invents reasons to get pissed off if none exist :p)
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Post by: Adrock on December 06, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
Kid Icarus 3 (for lack of a better name) wouldn't sell as a 2D game, even if keeping the series in 2D would make for a better game, not that going 3D would necessarily make for a "bad" game. The 2D games Nintendo releases are largely established franchises, of which Kid Icarus has no such luxury of being. Pit is a relic of the 80s, a niche character that old-school fans wax nostalgic. I doubt Nintendo will resurrect a dead franchise unless they can change Pit's status. When/If Pit returns for a 3rd outing, he'll have to or at least will be expected to sell because NIntendo has no real reason to go back to the well.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 06, 2008, 01:29:50 PM
Super Princess Peach wasn't an established franchise, and it did well, didn't it?

And I kinda disagree, because it is an established franchise that appeared on both the NES and the original Gameboy. I don't know how many people owned or played it back then, but odds are many of them would pick up a 2D remake just for retro sake, and even Nintendo fans like myself who never played it would consider picking it up to see what all the fuss was about.

Plus the beauty of a 2D version is it is much cheaper to develop, so even if it doesn't sell quite as much, it could still be just as profitable as a 3D version. And like I said, Nintendo could make both and then we all could see how great they do in comparison... and they'd probably mutually promote each other, because chances are someone would get at least one, and then if they are amazed by it they could consider the other as well.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 06, 2008, 09:32:30 PM
I want to see the games a third person 3D game just because they seem to be in a sorry state right now.

The 3d Platformer is as dead as shmups save the brilliant Mario Galaxy, and all other third person games have either become a FPS where you can see the character, (ala RE5, Uncharted, Gears) or a disconnected twitch brawler, (ala Devil May Cry, God of War, Gaiden) The genre has become too refined without anything new to lead the way.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on December 07, 2008, 01:04:00 AM
I want to see the games a third person 3D game just because they seem to be in a sorry state right now.

The 3d Platformer is as dead as shmups save the brilliant Mario Galaxy, and all other third person games have either become a FPS where you can see the character, (ala RE5, Uncharted, Gears) or a disconnected twitch brawler, (ala Devil May Cry, God of War, Gaiden) The genre has become too refined without anything new to lead the way.

Welcome to the HD Next Gen era.  Say goodbye to creativity and say hello to bald marines and 50 different shades of brown.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 07, 2008, 01:18:25 AM
I want to see the games a third person 3D game just because they seem to be in a sorry state right now.

The 3d Platformer is as dead as shmups save the brilliant Mario Galaxy, and all other third person games have either become a FPS where you can see the character, (ala RE5, Uncharted, Gears) or a disconnected twitch brawler, (ala Devil May Cry, God of War, Gaiden) The genre has become too refined without anything new to lead the way.

Welcome to the HD Next Gen era.  Say goodbye to creativity and say hello to bald marines and 50 different shades of brown.

I do believe you''ve just described the Iraq War in a nutshell.
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Post by: Adrock on December 07, 2008, 09:40:29 AM
Super Princess Peach wasn't an established franchise, and it did well, didn't it?
Princess Peach is an established character who has been in almost every Mario title and spinoff ever.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on December 07, 2008, 07:38:26 PM
Super Princess Peach wasn't an established franchise, and it did well, didn't it?
Princess Peach is an established character who has been in almost every Mario title and spinoff ever.

That is true, but hey, Pit was in Brawl (plus those old games), so he has been exposed to an audience of millions. I know its not to the extent Peach is, but hey, a typical Wii gamer is likely to be somewhat familiar with him now thanks to Brawl alone.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on December 09, 2008, 06:49:17 PM
I saw this rumor (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=65707). I remember reading that the PSP is gonna get the most recent PSP MH game that was released in Japan to test the NA waters.
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Post by: Peachylala on December 09, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
And...why should we be surprised? Capcom basically dicked over Nintendo, it's fans and Mikami along with the rest of Clover when it shafted the Gamecube 5. The RE4 exclusive deal wasn't Mikami's doing either, it was basically the stockholders doing. It's what made Clover break away and form a new studio. Zack and Wiki might not even get a sequal, and they are blaming the Wii user base for not buying it... except they didn't advertise the fucking game AT ALL.

Maybe we should make a thread about game marketing?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 09, 2008, 07:37:45 PM
Ian and I mutually complained about Nintendo library marketing in 2005 i believe.
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Post by: IceCold on December 09, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
We've been complaining about it way before 2005.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 09, 2008, 10:06:12 PM
Capcom actually just put up on their Monster Hunter 3 page that the game IS exclusive...I guess we'll see... =)
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 15, 2008, 05:49:29 PM
Okay, we all know IGN loves to hint at games that may or may not actually exist, so let's add to their ever-growing list!

They've hinted at secret Wii projects from Konami and EA...Of course, take everything with a giant chunk of salt...

Edit:  Wait, just realized the person transcribing is known to be a big fat liar...(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Assorted/hmmm-1.gif)  Yep, Squenix and Retro talk is fake...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 15, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
SK is working on Zelda huh
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 15, 2008, 07:05:45 PM
Retro is... (http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc48/BillAurion/Assorted/lolsmiley.png)
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 16, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
From Game Lab's Blind Rumor Mill

* The popular RPG series "T" by game company "N" will see several releases in 2009. There are said to be six games in development, both outsourced and within the company, and at least one "T" game will hit every single current gen platform next year.

* Although the DS rhythm game sequel "R" by game company "N" received mixed reviews due to its change of input method from buttons to stylus, it performed so well that "N" has begun developing a Wii version. Staff from this year's Wii music game "W" are reportedly involved.

* Game company "S" is attempting to headhunt employees from American game company "L" to assist with its virtual online experience, "H".

* Game company "C" is reportedly prepping an Xbox 360 sequel to original Xbox game "S", famous for its gigantic limited edition controller. The 360 version of the controller is said to be wireless.

* Game company "N" is said to be working on a second iteration of its fitness game, "W". New features apparently include stretching and massages. A certain former U.S. Army instructor has reportedly been approached about endorsing the game.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 16, 2008, 09:23:41 PM
To make it easy for everyone:

1)  Lots of Tales games...
2)  Rhythm Heaven Wii...
3)  Sony is trying to get those guys that made Second Life to help them with their own horrible Home...
4)  Steel Battalion for 360...
5)  Wii Fit 2...
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Post by: IceCold on December 16, 2008, 09:25:52 PM
Tales, Namco, Rythm Tengoku, Nintendo, Wii Music, Sony, ??, Home, ??, ??, Nintendo, Wii Fit ?
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Post by: IceCold on December 16, 2008, 09:26:02 PM
Damn.
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Post by: Kairon on December 16, 2008, 09:34:04 PM
"certain former US Army instructor?" Huh?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 16, 2008, 09:45:11 PM
SGT. SLAWTURR
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Post by: Adrock on December 16, 2008, 11:07:37 PM
Probably R. Lee Ermey. Known for his role as Sgt. Hartman in Full Metal Jacket and kissing Jack Black in Saving Silverman.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 16, 2008, 11:59:43 PM
Ermey is U.S. Marine Corps, tho.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 17, 2008, 12:12:04 AM
Isn't the guy from Celebrity fit club a former drill instructor?
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Post by: White Mage on December 17, 2008, 07:04:40 AM
Isn't the guy from Celebrity fit club a former drill instructor?

Yes he is, but I believe he is from the U.S. Marine Corps as well.
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Post by: Caliban on December 17, 2008, 09:21:57 AM
4)  Steel Battalion for 360

Want! Huge Controller too.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2008, 10:49:28 AM
They are just barely bringing WiiSports 2 after two years, they have yet to make a WiiPlay 2 (still a #1 selling game so I understand why, but why not have 2 controller bundles? with an eventual 3rd? we all need 3 extra controllers eventually). I find it weird that WiiFit 2 would come so soon. Good news though. all of it, except maybe steel battalion for 360.

that game should become MechWarrior360 or something like that
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 18, 2009, 12:56:13 PM
I have three little tidbits of exclusive info and rumours for you. The first one concerns troubled developer Factor 5. I can confirm to you that work on all current projects is continuing. Expect an official announcement within two weeks.

Secondly, concerning 'Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop' and fears of no more than fifteen enemies on screen at any one time, fear not. I have just spoken to someone who has played a current build of the game. While there will not be a hundred zombies on screen, there will be a sufficient amount, I was told. Basically, you can expect a few dozens of them rather than one dozen. This will be a really cool game, I understand.

Lastly, I have some reason to believe that Silicon Knights ('Eternal Darkness', 'Too Human') may be working on a Wii title. This is slightly going out on a limb here. But, like I said, I have some reason to believe so.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 18, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
BUH
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 18, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
Heeeeeey, you should put that in quotes... =3
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Post by: Tanatoes on January 18, 2009, 05:55:04 PM
BUH
Sneh.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 18, 2009, 06:24:06 PM
BUH

FUH...
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 18, 2009, 11:47:19 PM
BUH
GUH
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 19, 2009, 04:49:34 AM
HUH?
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Post by: Dasmos on January 19, 2009, 05:04:41 AM
SPAM
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 19, 2009, 09:31:12 AM
Lastly, I have some reason to believe that Silicon Knights ('Eternal Darkness', 'Too Human') may be working on a Wii title. This is slightly going out on a limb here. But, like I said, I have some reason to believe so.
Have they released Too Human yet? We all know that they take so long on finishing one game,that maybe they should just concentrate on one console and one game at a time. Its good that they are planning on supporting Wii2, but any game announced from them is not likely to be playable for years to come.
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Post by: Stogi on January 19, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
Ya they released the first of three.

I would love for an ED2 with motion+ but that'll never happen. Ever.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 19, 2009, 01:03:06 PM
You will say, "WAOW!"
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 19, 2009, 02:49:54 PM
I doubt Too Human will really become a trilogy but hey, if they want to hit their head thrice on the same wall...
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 19, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
Why plan on a trilogy unless you can get 100% promised funding for a trilogy.  Instead why not just go for a good sequel to finish the story.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 19, 2009, 02:57:48 PM
Yes, if they took 10 years just to complete ONE chapter who knows how long it will take them o make part 2...
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 19, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
Yes, if they took 10 years just to complete ONE chapter who knows how long it will take them o make part 2...

After playing through the first chapter I don't think I want to play the 2nd chapter until it's 20 dollars.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 19, 2009, 03:16:45 PM
Flames so that will be in 2020?
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Post by: Adrock on January 19, 2009, 03:23:26 PM
Too Human didn't take 10 years to complete.

Silicon Knights is a slow developer, but the TH world is set. Unless they plan on revamping the story again or starting from scratch, a sequel should be out sooner rather than later.

It comes down to priorities. SK supposedly has 3 titles in the works: Too Human 2, a untitled project to be published by Sega, and a rumored Wii game. Since they've traditionally had trouble working on more than 1 title at a time, completing the Too Human series would be the best idea considering the parts SK obsess over are/should be finished (characters/plot). I want Eternal Darkness 2 as much as the next person, but unless Dennis Dyack plans on hiring more people or has learned some time management skills, they're better off finishing whatever is furthest along which is likely Too Human 2.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 19, 2009, 03:26:29 PM
=\

If he considers recycling GameCube assets from Eternal Darkness, then I'd say ED2 is much further along.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 19, 2009, 03:28:03 PM
I want Eternal Darkness 2 as much as the next person, but unless Dennis Dyack plans on hiring more people or has learned some time management skills, they're better off finishing whatever is furthest along which is likely Too Human 2.

Well, how did Too Human do sales-wise?  (in the chance that MS doesn't finance the sequels...)
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Post by: Adrock on January 19, 2009, 03:32:39 PM
Not absolutely terrible but not terribly great either if I remember correctly, but then again, Eternal Darkness didn't do too hot and SK is still considering a sequel. So I don't think sales are really stopping Dyack and co. He seems more a storyteller at heart so he'll probably find a way finish Too Human with or without Microsoft.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 19, 2009, 03:38:23 PM
So I don't think sales are really stopping Dyack and co. He seems more a storyteller at heart so he'll probably find a way finish Too Human with or without Microsoft.

Well who exactly owns the rights on Too Human?  Because I know Ninty owns Eternal Darkness, so if SK wanted to do a sequel they'd have to get Ninty's permission first...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 19, 2009, 03:40:17 PM
If I recall correctly TH started out as a PSone game. Then, while working on ED for the N64 they decided to move it and TH to the GC. It was apparently going to be the next SK game on the system. Then after they stopped making games for Nintendo TH was moved to the 360 and was released in 2008. So assuming development and planning started in 1997-98 it did take around 10 years to complete.
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Post by: Adrock on January 19, 2009, 04:05:12 PM
I guess it really depends on how you define 10 years because there are several gaps in development, not to mention how many times Silicon Knights restarted development. A simple google search yields a very different Too Human on PS1, notably no Norse Mythology whatsoever. The gravity concept in Super Mario Galaxy dates back to Spaceworld 2000 at the earliest, do we consider it taking almost 10 years to complete?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 19, 2009, 04:18:03 PM
"The gravity concept in Super Mario Galaxy dates back to Spaceworld 2000 at the earliest, do we consider it taking almost 10 years to complete?"

In Galaxy's case, I wouldn't.  The concept was there, but I won't agree there was an end-product in mind.
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 19, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
As much as I enjoyed Eternal Darkness, I really don't want another game from Dyack until he changes his attitude.
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Post by: Halbred on January 19, 2009, 11:01:56 PM
UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOR

Nintendo's first-party Wii software lineup will be worthwhile in 2009.

Heard it here first.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 19, 2009, 11:09:44 PM
Definitely not happening.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 19, 2009, 11:12:24 PM
Wow I see that the new director's leadership has taken hold of one of his followers. I'm kidding.Or am I?
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Post by: Mop it up on January 19, 2009, 11:14:22 PM
UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMOR

Nintendo's first-party Wii software lineup will be worthwhile in 2009.

Heard it here first.
Eh, it can't be any more disappointing than 2008.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2009, 01:02:00 AM
2008 was a weak year because Nintendo shot its load early in 2007, because otherwise people would have been bitching that 2007 was a weak year and that would be really bad because that was the critical first year of the console's life where everything mattered. By 2008 Nintendo didn't really have anything else in the pipeline, but it didn't matter so much since old games like Wii Play and Mario and so forth are still MEGA sellers.

But yeah, I have to agree with Halbred that 2009 is going to be much better. This is probably also going to be the year where quality 3rd party support finally shows up in full force.
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Post by: Stogi on January 20, 2009, 06:59:35 AM
Um, I don't consider MarioKart, Brawl, and WiiFit "weak"
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 20, 2009, 07:04:47 AM
Um, I don't consider MarioKart, Brawl, and WiiFit "weak"

Also not weak: Wario Land.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 20, 2009, 09:26:01 AM
Neither "No More Heroes", "de Blob". "Boom Blox" and "Samba de Amigo", among others.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2009, 09:33:49 AM
Neither "No More Heroes", "de Blob". "Boom Blox" and "Samba de Amigo", among others.

"First-party"...
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Post by: Tanookisuit on January 20, 2009, 09:48:06 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure where this attitude of a weak 2008 comes from.  Maybe a disappointing holiday season, but we got Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing which I'm really enjoying), Wii Fit, and Warioland.  Hmm... what's the problem?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 20, 2009, 09:59:40 AM
They're making up for their low Hatorade(R) quota in the first half of the year.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 20, 2009, 10:09:32 AM
Neither "No More Heroes", "de Blob". "Boom Blox" and "Samba de Amigo", among others.

"First-party"...

Last I heard, they were part of the Wii lineup of games, and have received far more nods than Nintendo's own efforts.

Regarding the weak 2008 attitudes, here's how it might happened...
At E3 2008 everyone expected Nintendo reveal its hot holiday lineup. The rumors of a new Punch-Out and Kid Icarus fueled this even more. Everyone was geared up for an amazing Holiday season...if the rumors were to be believed of course.

But once the conference confirmed that nothing more would be released outside of Animal Crossing and Wii Music THAT'S where the weak 2008 lineup belief was born. The impression was so deep that even when solid games were released the idea still persisted, Game Trailers going as far as to say that the future looked bleaked for Wii owners (this was before the Fall conference, though).

Also, I think players are talking about how the other consoles had these mega hyped killer apps, and Nintendo had none.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 20, 2009, 12:13:58 PM
I think it might just be short memory, when people think about 2008 they think about the last few months.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2009, 12:20:07 PM
Last I heard, they were part of the Wii lineup of games, and have received far more nods than Nintendo's own efforts.

Hey, I personally enjoyed 2008...I was just saying that in the context of the posts before, where Halbred mentioned the "rumour" of 2009 having a better first-party line-up... =)
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Post by: Mop it up on January 20, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
For me, Nintendo's 2008 lineup was decent overall. It started with disappointment (SSBBrawl), but then it got a lot better (Mario Kart Wii), although after that it was either "meh" or things which didn't interest me. As such, I'm sure there will be at least one gem released by Nintendo in 2009, I just don't know what that is yet.
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Post by: Kairon on January 20, 2009, 02:28:05 PM
I think that Nintendo's emphasis on revealing new titles at their fall conference is really making them look weak to pundits earlier on in the year, especially with the weight that so many still attribute to E3.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2009, 02:50:58 PM
As such, I'm sure there will be at least one gem released by Nintendo in 2009, I just don't know what that is yet.

So far we know of two...(Another Code R and Sin & Punishment 2) :cool;
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 20, 2009, 03:05:42 PM
Trace Memory 2
Punch Out Wii
Sin & Punishment 2
Another Code R---or is this Trace Memory 2???
Wii Sports Resort

I count 4 or 5 gems.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2009, 03:13:56 PM
Another Code and Trace Memory are the same game, yeah...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 20, 2009, 03:17:18 PM
Don't forget Trace Code and Another Memory.

Plus Sports & Punishment 2, and Punch Resort R.
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Post by: Stogi on January 20, 2009, 04:06:53 PM
Poor poor Conduit.....
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 20, 2009, 04:12:16 PM
Is Sin and Punishment 2 being developed by Treasure?
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Post by: EasyCure on January 20, 2009, 04:15:42 PM
Don't forget Trace Code and Another Memory.

Plus Sports & Punishment 2, and Punch Resort R.

Punch Resort doesn't sound like a fun place to stay...
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Post by: Stogi on January 20, 2009, 04:22:04 PM
Isn't Endless Ocean 2 coming this year?
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 20, 2009, 04:25:54 PM
Isn't Endless Ocean 2 coming this year?

It looks like it. It doesn't look like the type of series that needs deep localization.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 20, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
Isn't Endless Ocean 2 coming this year?

It looks like it. It doesn't look like the type of series that needs deep localization.

There is quite a bit of text in Endless Ocean though, the fish descriptions for one, along with the various story elements.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2009, 04:32:50 PM
Poor poor Conduit.....

Not first-party...

Is Sin and Punishment 2 being developed by Treasure?

Yep, but it's a Ninty franchise, so in it goes!

Isn't Endless Ocean 2 coming this year?

Most likely, but a localization hasn't been officially announced or shown in English form...
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Post by: Mop it up on January 20, 2009, 10:58:31 PM
Trace Memory 2
Haven't heard of this before, maybe I'll look into it.

Punch-Out!! Wii
I own both of the Punch-Out!! games but I've no idea why. The game is sort of like a cross between a fighter and a puzzle game, since each opponent has some sort of trick(s) to beating them, but I don't like fighters and that aspect really turns me off. I didn't really like Mario Strikers either, another series developed by the same company.

Sin & Punishment 2
I'm not really into shoot-em-ups. I kicked some broomsticks in Contra back in the day but that was about the only shooter I've liked. Gradius and R-Type just aren't my thing. I'll still probably watch over this though as it's a sequel to an N64 game, and N64 > mops. And I love mops.

Wii Sports Resort
I don't know much about this but it seems a bit unimaginative, like it has the Wii Sports name just to sell it. I also couldn't possibly express how much I despise the Wii Motion+ accessory, at least not without being seen as a huge troll.

Endless Ocean 2
The first one was magical... and I actually forgot that it was released in 2008. That was a good game to start the year with. I'll be watching to see how this turns out (and if it's released outside Japan).

New Play Control! Pikmin
I rented this back in the day just to get the Olimar trophy in SSBMelee, so I never played past the first save point. Does that make me a bad person? If so, it's time I remedy that by giving the game another chance. Having Wii controls may make the game better... but I guess I won't know that as I have no comparison...

New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis
I skipped over the original because it doesn't have Toad and Birdo as playable characters. Yes really. I wouldn't mind having a good Tennis game on Wii though so I'm going to see how this one turns out.

That's all I've heard of from Nintendo for 2009. The year just started so there's probably something else on the way which hasn't been announced yet. Still, I can't tell what a gem is until I've played it; the game of 2008 I thought I'd like was the game I despised, and the one I'd thought I would dislike is the one I became enamoured with. I'm just going to wait and see.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 20, 2009, 11:30:37 PM
Trace Memory 2
Haven't heard of this before, maybe I'll look into it.

It's the sequel to a very good DS adventure point-and-click...Definitely play it first, then Hotel Dusk if you haven't already...The sequel seems to take from both games...

Sin & Punishment 2
I'm not really into shoot-em-ups. I kicked some broomsticks in Contra back in the day but that was about the only shooter I've liked. Gradius and R-Type just aren't my thing. I'll still probably watch over this though as it's a sequel to an N64 game, and N64 > mops.

Sin & Punishment is more comparable to Contra than either Gradius or R-Type...I do recommend giving Sin & Punishment on the VC a try if you are willing to risk 10 bucks...
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Post by: Mop it up on January 20, 2009, 11:44:36 PM
I just recently got a DS so I'll look into Trace Memory and Hotel Dusk. I enjoyed Shadowgate and Uninvited on the NES, so if they're anything like that then they're probably for me.

As for Sin & Punishment: I can't bring myself to pay for a download, so it's more like a $30 gamble for the original cartridge. But I could always sell that cartridge if I didn't like the game. I've actually considered buying it off eBay numerous times now but always ended up bidding on something else.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 21, 2009, 01:19:43 AM
Talking about games for 2009... DYNAMIC SLASH!
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Post by: decoyman on January 21, 2009, 06:56:19 AM
Nintendo missed a huge opportunity this holiday season.

But for reasons unknown, Ninty has apparently decided to NEVER release Disaster: Day of Crisis over here. Could've filled the gap really nicely. I know I would've been all over it, as would any gamer in search of a "core" sort of gaming experience.
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Post by: Chiller on January 21, 2009, 09:51:15 AM
I just recently got a DS so I'll look into Trace Memory and Hotel Dusk. I enjoyed Shadowgate and Uninvited on the NES, so if they're anything like that then they're probably for me.
Hotel Dusk and Trace Memory aren't quite the same as the older point/click games (they have a different feel and style), but as someone who enjoyed Shadowgate and Uninvited (and even Deja Vu), I would say that they are worth checking out.
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Post by: vudu on January 21, 2009, 11:29:42 AM
Skip Trace Memory and go straight for Hotel Dusk.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 21, 2009, 12:37:33 PM
Skip Trace Memory and go straight for Hotel Dusk.

No...ESPECIALLY if you are interested in the Wii sequel...
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on January 21, 2009, 10:56:07 PM
Spanish Nintendo magazine “Nintendo Acción” (Nintendo Action) has said they will reveal a new game in the next issue. The picture that was given as the hint is the one above. They say, in the scan, that the game will be two great figures coming together once more.

The obvious? Sonic and Mario. So we solved the mystery, do we get prize bubbles now?

Rough translation: “Who are these two and why do they come to see each other? Find out all the details on the mystery game in the next magazine. But before that, here are some clues: Games, Olympics, Cold, Its winter…”
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Post by: Mop it up on January 21, 2009, 11:00:55 PM
That isn't a mystery at all. You can piece that together using words from the article:
Mario and Sonic at the Winter Olympics.

I almost hope it isn't true...
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Post by: Stogi on January 21, 2009, 11:05:34 PM
Actually, Winter Olympics is much better suited to take advantage of the Wii. Hopefully, seeing the success of the original, Miyamoto will have some sort of involvement.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 21, 2009, 11:31:45 PM
Yes, the original game was a rock solid and fun title.

Winter Olympics does make sense. In fact, I see Sega using the balance for the skiing and snowboarding events. Again, it makes sense.
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Post by: Mop it up on January 21, 2009, 11:53:52 PM
It seems a bit early to reveal that game though. Aren't the winter Olympics almost two years away?

If it is true, I just hope they include Toad and Birdo this time around. Otherwise I'll probably be passing on this sequel as I did the original.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 22, 2009, 02:59:25 AM
I wonder if they'll take the logical next step and add Mario & Sonic in California Games... (olympics titles were pretty popular on the C64, California Games was apparently the best of them)
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Post by: Bill Aurion on January 22, 2009, 08:54:09 AM
It seems a bit early to reveal that game though. Aren't the winter Olympics almost two years away?

Just over a year from now...
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 22, 2009, 10:07:04 AM
If Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics lets me play Curling as Waluigi I'm going to preorder it next time I go to GameStop.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 22, 2009, 11:00:06 AM
They would hsve to release the game some time before the Olympics just like before.
They gotta get as many sales as possible from the hype of the game itself, and then get a second boost riding on the wind of the actual Olympics.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 22, 2009, 11:04:29 AM
Yep that helped with the sales of the first one B&M.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on January 22, 2009, 11:10:18 AM
Hmmm...I wonder if the hype will be there for the game?

The first game had a lot of hype mainly because it was the first time Mario and Sonic appeared in the same game together. But now that both it and Brawl and out the idea of Mario and Sonic together is not so surreal.

...Then again, the game had great word of mouth, one that propelled it to great sales even after the hype died. So who knows...
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 22, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
Guys... I don't know about you, but I think the Mario-Sonic teaming up was way too long in coming for it to just be limited to Olympic games. I never played Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, but while I'm sure it is great for what it is, its not the sort of Mario & Sonic game that SHOULD be made. I'm thinking something along the lines of an RPG, ala Super Mario RPG where Square and Nintendo worked together on that. It was one of the greatest games of all time. So I'm sure a Mario-Sonic RPG would also kick some serious ass.

Or maybe they could team up in one of their traditional platform genre games? I imagine a game where sometimes you need Mario's jumping abilities and sometimes you need Sonic's speed, and the two of them have to work together to overcome obstacles or to battle foes. Maybe they could also have Luigi and other sidekicks come along as well? But this is something I would like to see.

Mario & Sonic as an Olympics game was great the first time around, but for God's sake let the next Mario & Sonic game be something different...
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Post by: Adrock on January 22, 2009, 03:11:29 PM
I was thinking the same thing when I read the Winter Olympics rumor. It'd undoubtedly have to be developed by Nintendo or a team Miyamoto hand picks since Sonic Team is all "Meh, Sonic." Here's the main issue though...

Sonic: FAST!!!!!11
Mario: Not as fast.

How do you design a crossover game with 2 completely different characters without designating specific Mario-only or Sonic-only levels? It not as simple as something like Super Mario Bros. 2. You can speed Mario up but there needs to be some balance. Maybe he gets tired or if you're Sonic you can run too fast and leave Mario behind but he's gone for the rest of the level. At the same time, Sonic can't jump as high or far as Mario. For this game to work, players have to enjoy playing as each equally as much and the levels need to play on each character's strengths and weaknesses. I can just imagine both characters running through levels together similar to Sonic and Tails or DK and Diddy and they could switch on the fly or perform team up moves.
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 22, 2009, 03:32:52 PM
DS game, Sonic levels on the top screen and Mario on the bottom. Sonic has to run through a loop de loop, mario jumps a pit.
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Post by: Mop it up on January 22, 2009, 06:17:29 PM
I suppose the original Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games was released about nine months before the summer Olympics, so maybe this winter Olympics one will be released over the summer if the rumours are true. Need a break from the heat of summers? Think cold thoughts and participate in winters sports!
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Post by: Mario on January 22, 2009, 06:23:10 PM
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I never played Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, but while I'm sure it is great for what it is, its not the sort of Mario & Sonic game that SHOULD be made. I'm thinking something along the lines of an RPG, ala Super Mario RPG where Square and Nintendo worked together on that.
Completely disagree, an RPG would be boring and go against the main theme Mario and Sonic share which is fun gameplay, which Masatog delivers in spades.
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Post by: Kairon on January 22, 2009, 07:09:35 PM
I'd think that the Winter Olympics would be more fun anyways to begin with.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 22, 2009, 07:11:26 PM
Balance Board Ski & Zap

Downhill Duckhunt

The House of the Snow

Grand Theft Bobsled
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 23, 2009, 12:13:51 AM
How do you design a crossover game with 2 completely different characters without designating specific Mario-only or Sonic-only levels?

I'm sure they could think of something. Maybe you can only play one of them at a time, but then you can tag the other one whenever you want to switch to them? Remember when Nintendo Introduced Yoshi? Yoshi wasn't a character you began the game with or always had, but iirc, you would hit a block and he would grow out of an egg (I could be wrong, because its been awhile since i played it). But anyway, my point is maybe there could Mario or Sonic blocks which you could hit to switch to the other character.... and maybe even Luigi, Peach, Knuckles, etc. blocks as well...

Alternatively, they could have the characters lug around a briefcase or something and then shove the other character inside when not in use. Or Mario could hide Sonic inside of his hat, or Sonic could wrap himself around Mario whenever he curls up... *shrug* I don't know, but if Miyamoto was behind it you could be sure he could think of some way to make it work.

I also think it would be cool if they each gained different abilities when they have the other partner in their shadow. For example, if Mario had Sonic hidden in his hat that could give him spikes that would allow him to kill enemies or stick to ceilings or something; and if Mario was wrapped up inside Sonic that could give Sonic the ability to jump in addition to the speed. And if they throw in other characters then they could add their abilities to the table as well, such as Peach's ability to float, and etc.
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Post by: KDR_11k on January 23, 2009, 02:52:54 AM
Doesn't Sega already regularly use multiple characters in the Sonic games? Didn't people get angry over it?
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Post by: decoyman on January 23, 2009, 05:22:44 AM
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Alternatively, they could have the characters lug around a briefcase or something and then shove the other character inside when not in use.

lol didn't Killer 7 already do this?
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Post by: Spak-Spang on January 23, 2009, 08:45:12 AM
I would love for Nintendo to ask Sega if they could develop a Mario and Sonic crossover platform game...and then Nintendo puts a premiere development team on it and creates the BEST 3D sonic game with a great sense of speed, camera angle and the game feels like sonic.

That too me would be the ultimate Nintendo does what Sega...don't? 

Which is why Sega would never allow that to happen.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on January 23, 2009, 09:39:41 AM
I would love for Nintendo to ask Sega if they could develop a Mario and Sonic crossover platform game...and then Nintendo puts a premiere development team on it and creates the BEST 3D sonic game with a great sense of speed, camera angle and the game feels like sonic.

That too me would be the ultimate Nintendo does what Sega...don't? 

Which is why Sega would never allow that to happen.

Well Nintendo already showed that they could in Mario Galaxy.  The parts where you become Rainbow Mario have Mario moving quite fast and when he jumps he does a summersault similar to Sonic.  Not to mention did it all with an amazing camera system as well.

If Nintendo were to have a Mario and Sonic crossover, I'd imagine Sonic would control just like Rainbow Mario, except faster.  Which would make him Rainbow Luigi then.  ;D

This is why a Nintendo Mario and Sonic game developed by Tokyo EAD would work out great.  Mario could remain the same as he is in Mario Galaxy, while Sonic would play like the Rainbow powerups, except with different moves to seperate the characters.  This way they'd be able to play the same levels, except their different moves would allow them to reach different area's in the level.  It would end up similar to Sonic 3 where Tails and Knuckles can both access area's that Sonic can't.

And since it'd be developed by Tokyo EAD, you know they'd be able to design each level in a way so that they take advantage of both characters strengths and weaknesses.  In other words, you'll have fun playing through the game as both Mario and Sonic.


Of course, the only people allowed to develop this game are Tokyo EAD and ONLY Tokyo EAD.  Iwata should give an order to security that any Sega or Sonic Team members that come anywhere within 500 feet of the studio are to be shot at sight, no questions asked.
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Post by: IceCold on January 24, 2009, 12:51:21 AM
They could do an amazing 2D Sonic game too if they wanted to - see Jungle Beat.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on January 28, 2009, 06:32:22 PM
Boy and Blob heading to Wii? (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=70855)
I remember playing A Boy his Blob on the Nes.I enjoyed it.There was a DS title in works but nothing materialized.Will this Wii come to fruitition? Only time will tell.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 04, 2009, 10:18:34 PM
Gaming Target has recently heard from a video game industry analyst (who wishes to remain nameless) that Fatal Frame IV is coming to America in 2009, but it may not be released as "Fatal Frame IV."Why any publisher would throw away the cult of popularity the series has gained over the years is questionable, but the desire to start fresh, and make Fatal Frame more than a cult series, could be the impetus behind that decision.
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Post by: Ghisy on February 05, 2009, 10:33:00 AM
I honestly couldn't care less about them dropping the "Fatal Frame" name.
I'm just hoping it's gonna be released in the US, that's all I'm asking for.
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Post by: Adrock on February 05, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Instead of worrying about the name, they should be trying to figure out how to make the game not control like a tank that's inside of a larger tank.
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Post by: ShyGuy on February 05, 2009, 03:42:37 PM
So it controls like RE5? Zing!
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Post by: Mop it up on February 05, 2009, 04:25:21 PM
Boy and Blob heading to Wii? (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=70855)
I remember playing A Boy his Blob on the Nes.I enjoyed it.
I own that game but never could figure out what the hell you're supposed to do in it. There's too much trial and error in it for me as you have to keep giving each type of jelly bean to the blob to figure out what they all do and how to use them. Add to that the limited amount of beans, and, well, I don't have the patience for a game like that anymore.
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Post by: Luigi Dude on February 05, 2009, 04:47:48 PM
Instead of worrying about the name, they should be trying to figure out how to make the game not control like a tank that's inside of a larger tank.

Plus fix all the bugs and glitches that are said to have really hurt the Japanese version.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on February 26, 2009, 09:15:29 AM
Rumor: Climax working on Silent Hill remake for Wii

VG247 understands that UK developer Climax is working on a Wii remake of an the first Silent Hill.

Konami has declined to comment on the talk.

Few specifics are known as yet, but apparently motion control’s been included for torch functions.

The first Silent Hill, designed by Keiichiro Toyama, was released for PlayStation in 1999.

Climax is working on two Konami games, as shown on the firm’s website. The remake is the Wii and PSP project you can see there.

A 360 and PS3 game is also in the works for Konami, but this is an “original ground breaking next-gen game,” according to a Climax job posting.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 26, 2009, 09:54:55 AM
"“original ground breaking next-gen game,”

MGS5?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2009, 01:02:07 PM
Not sure if you guys have been following it but there is supposedly an upcoming announcement of another RE game for Wii owners. .

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/06/wiis-resident-evil-fans-will-be-very-happy-very-soon-says-ca/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/03/06/wiis-resident-evil-fans-will-be-very-happy-very-soon-says-ca/)
Now for the rumors!!

Rumor has it that this announcement will likely one of two things:
1.) RE2 Wiimake w/ RE4 controls
or
2.) RE:CV Wiimake (w/ RE4 controls?)

some are still holding their breath for a RE5 down port w/ upgraded controls (which Capcom pretty much says isn't happening)
others happen to think it is a RE:UC2 (using scenes from CV, 4 & 5?).

Looks like the announcement should be made official on or around the 14th of March, so we probably won't know until then.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 07, 2009, 01:18:22 PM
CapcomWorldReport.com sez Umbrella Chronicles 2: Waggle Shooter.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 07, 2009, 01:50:21 PM
Whatever happens, I am not holding my breath for something amazing. The main thing I am expecting is a port/remake simply because Capcom is notorious for that.

It would be a shame if it turned out to be UC 2. Not because the game was bad. In fact it was awesome. But after the Dead Space Extraction fiasco it doesn't matter if the game finally adds the missing chapters, balances the gameplay and polished the engine, everyone would be whining over it being an on-rails shooter.
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Post by: Stogi on March 07, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
I hope there's zombies in it...
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 08, 2009, 04:14:46 AM
Well to add to this at the launch of RE5 there will be an announcement.
Here are the details (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=74969)
Rough summary:
At the Gamestop in San Francisco on Powell street there will be a launch party with New game announcements.
The only personon here that I know on here that lives close to there is Pro.I doubt he will go though.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2009, 04:03:09 PM
ahahahaha for RE5 wank party and some obscure press release in SF?  Not a chance.

I'm in Sac Valley while Berto2k is equally far from SF down in Silicon Valley.  Probalby no one other than us, PGC is so niche.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2009, 04:08:17 PM
Well to add to this at the launch of RE5 there will be an announcement.
Here are the details (http://Http://gonintendo.com/?p=74969)
Rough summary:
At the Gamestop in San Francisco on Powell street there will be a launch party with New game announcements.
The only personon here that I know on here that lives close to there is Pro.I doubt he will go though.

i live abut 30minutes from SF, but I'm not going out there for a game announcement when I will find it on the internet moments after its said just like you will.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 08, 2009, 04:15:58 PM
I thought Kairon was in Northen California as well?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2009, 04:17:40 PM
I thought he was in Fremont, which is like, Arizona.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2009, 04:22:45 PM
Fremont is 20-25 (freeway)minutes from Oakland, which is just over the Bay Bridge from S.F.

But unless they are giving away free stuff, then I don't see the point of driving out there ($5 bridge toll) if you are not looking for an exclusive interview or something. Who is making the announcement?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
If it was a good announcement, they could've been smart and announce it at least a month before RE5's launch to muddle the fanfare like RE4-ps2.
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Post by: Stratos on March 08, 2009, 04:41:18 PM
I honestly couldn't care less about them dropping the "Fatal Frame" name.
I'm just hoping it's gonna be released in the US, that's all I'm asking for.

They could just be dropping the 'IV' part of the title. Similar to how 4 got dropped from Tenchu: Shadow Assassin.

If I didn't have important plans the day and night before and gas was still at 1990's level I'd road-trip it from Portland. 12th is the day I contest my traffic ticket and that night is freakin' Wi-Fi night. Can't miss that for the world.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 14, 2009, 08:32:01 AM
Take this rumor with  whole lot of salt! (http://Http://vgeutopia.com/linkandpitatgdc09)

So this rumor suggests that 3(technically 4) characters will be at GDC 09 which takes place March 23rd-27th.

I don't think I'm going to believe  rumors leading up to shows like GDC or E3.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 14, 2009, 09:26:15 AM
Ahh Ice Climbers, one Nintendo published game revealed by the esrb except as Rock N Roll Climber.

Quote from: esrb

Rock N’ Roll Climber

Platform: Wii

Rating: Everyone

Content descriptors: No Descriptors

Rating summary: This is a rock climbing game in which players must climb up various formations within a time limit. Players navigate rocks and walls by grabbing onto divots and edges and positioning themselves to ensure they do not fall off.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 14, 2009, 09:35:07 AM
Ahh Ice Climbers, one Nintendo published game revealed by the esrb except as Rock N Roll Climber.

Quote from: esrb

Rock N’ Roll Climber

Platform: Wii

Rating: Everyone

Content descriptors: No Descriptors

Rating summary: This is a rock climbing game in which players must climb up various formations within a time limit. Players navigate rocks and walls by grabbing onto divots and edges and positioning themselves to ensure they do not fall off.
With a name like Rock N' Roll Climber it could be a Mega Man climbing game.
In all seriousness yeah that ESRB discription could be for a Ice Climber game.I'm going to wait till GDC to see if this is true or not.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 14, 2009, 10:41:30 AM
Just looked it up and that is a rating for a Wiiware game. I didn't see any screenshots or videos of it.So it is best to wait till GDC.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 14, 2009, 05:28:05 PM
If its indeed a Nintendo title then this might be the first time in a few months that Nintendo has released a first party Wii Ware title.

And yes, that rumor about those Nintendo franchises returning SHOULD be taken with a GIANT grain of salt. The rumor just sounds like a fanboy's wet dream come true, and Nintendo isn't that eager to please (in the past maybe, but not today).
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Post by: Stratos on March 14, 2009, 10:50:57 PM
Just looked it up and that is a rating for a Wiiware game. I didn't see any screenshots or videos of it.So it is best to wait till GDC.

http://www.wiiware-world.com/news/2009/03/rock_n_roll_climber_coming_to_wiiware

It's a legit game being made by Giles Goddard. Name ring a bell? The guy was a developer on Super Mario 64 and the studio, Vitei,  is the team behind 1080 and Doshin the Giant.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 14, 2009, 10:59:17 PM
Did we ever hear more of the rumor that Bioshock was coming to the Wii?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 14, 2009, 11:04:11 PM
Stratos I know it is a legit game. I was more or less responding to Flames as if it was a Ice Climbers game.
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Post by: Stratos on March 14, 2009, 11:17:55 PM
Stratos I know it is a legit game. I was more or less responding to Flames as if it was a Ice Climbers game.

You mean you were joking? Oh, sorry I missed that.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 14, 2009, 11:33:30 PM
Look the rumor I posted on the previous page stated that the Ice Climbers and a few others would be shown at GDC. I said that stuff about videos and screenshots because aside from the ESRB rating there wasn't any pictures of who the protaginists are so I'm not sure if this Rock N Roll Climbing will star the Ice Climbers!
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Post by: Stratos on March 14, 2009, 11:35:07 PM
Oh, I understand. Took a minute, I'm a little slow right now, headache.  :P
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 14, 2009, 11:40:48 PM
Don't worry about it.:)
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Post by: Kairon on March 14, 2009, 11:54:54 PM
Did we ever hear more of the rumor that Bioshock was coming to the Wii?

What rumor? Oh, you mean as a rail shooter?
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 15, 2009, 12:03:43 AM
Did we ever hear more of the rumor that Bioshock was coming to the Wii?

What rumor? Oh, you mean as a rail shooter?

WHOOOAH! BLEEDING EDGE OF COMEDY PEOPLE! XD
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Post by: Stratos on March 15, 2009, 12:15:58 AM
Did we ever hear more of the rumor that Bioshock was coming to the Wii?

What rumor? Oh, you mean as a rail shooter?

Yeah, that seems to be about it on the Wii horizon. Though I did find some compelling arguments from a technical standpoint that the Wii could graphically handle Bioshock sans the high rendered textures. The Wii's tested specs fit within the range of the minimum PC requirements for Bioshock.
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Post by: broodwars on March 15, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
Did we ever hear more of the rumor that Bioshock was coming to the Wii?

What rumor? Oh, you mean as a rail shooter?

Yeah, that seems to be about it on the Wii horizon. Though I did find some compelling arguments from a technical standpoint that the Wii could graphically handle Bioshock sans the high rendered textures. The Wii's tested specs fit within the range of the minimum PC requirements for Bioshock.

I've played Bioshock on a PC meeting the minimum requirements, and trust me...you don't want to see what that looks or plays like.  We'd be better off seeing them make a whole new Bioshock or Bioshock-type game ground-up on Wii.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 15, 2009, 01:26:01 PM
Did we ever hear more of the rumor that Bioshock was coming to the Wii?

What rumor? Oh, you mean as a rail shooter?

The rumor popped up because 2K Boston, 2K Australia and 2K Marin are looking for developers who have Wii,PS3,X360 experience.
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 15, 2009, 02:28:01 PM
I've played Bioshock on a PC meeting the minimum requirements, and trust me...you don't want to see what that looks or plays like.  We'd be better off seeing them make a whole new Bioshock or Bioshock-type game ground-up on Wii.

It looks good enough, the trouble is that the framerate is in the single digits and you need some precision aiming in combat.
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Post by: broodwars on March 15, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
I've played Bioshock on a PC meeting the minimum requirements, and trust me...you don't want to see what that looks or plays like.  We'd be better off seeing them make a whole new Bioshock or Bioshock-type game ground-up on Wii.

It looks good enough, the trouble is that the framerate is in the single digits and you need some precision aiming in combat.

Yeah, the framerate is what I was really getting at.  You fire off a round of any weapon when the screen has 2 or more enemies, the screen pauses, and 2-3 seconds later you find out if you hit anything.  Yeah, that made massive firefights REAL fun...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 26, 2009, 11:58:28 PM
A new Ubisoft rumor says that Beyond Good and Evil 2 might see release on Wii after all (http://gonintendo.com/?p=76975)

Michel Ancel mentions that no console was mentioned when the game debuted and to not rule out the Wii just yet.

New Play Control: Beyond Good and Evil. That's what we are getting instead.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2009, 12:23:07 AM
They better not cheap out and throw us a NPC.
BG&E & Psychonauts should get a Wiimake if anything and after the success that would be seen, it would be stupid to not bring the sequel to the Wii. *coughcoughRE5coughcough*
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 27, 2009, 04:27:20 AM
NPC games are fine as long as they supplement new games, but if that's all we get then that is absolutely not fine.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2009, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from:  Matt Cassamassina - IGN
During the show, there were all sorts of companies showing off Wii MotionPlus, from AiLive to countless developers, all fascinated by the device. No major revelations about the technology itself, but one interesting tidbit did come up a couple times. Namely, that MotionPlus might ship infused inside of a jacket and cannot be removed. A perma-Wii remote condom, if you will. Bad news if you hate the Wii rubber because, if true, you will have to use one if you want to play games with MotionPlus, plain and simple. Although I have never been a fan of the controller jackets, I can see the logic. Novice gamers, flailing around wildly as they try to play tennis, have already demonstrated that they can't be trusted in close proximity to TVs and walls. If Nintendo adds in yet another detachable component into the equation, these same players might accidentally blow themselves up.

Sounds like  good idea to me. no need to redistribute 50 million more extended Wiimote condoms for free.
might as well pack it in & attach it for good.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 27, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
Wouldn't it be possible to cut the device out of its condom and still be able to use it?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
Depends on how they attach the M+ to the condom.
What if the M+ is held on by the condom.
What if the M+ isn't encased in plastic and then the condom, but just the condom

But either way, it doesn't bother me at all if it is attached like that.
the only real issue would be future peripherals wouldn't be able to use M+
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 27, 2009, 09:55:41 PM
I think it's wrong for Lotion Puss to be embedded in condoms.

IT MUST BE SET FREE
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 27, 2009, 10:29:07 PM
I wonder if M+ will be compatible with Nyko's unauthorized controller and/or accessories. If not, I wonder if they'll just make their own alternative.
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 28, 2009, 12:47:25 AM
What if that was just a way to prevent journalists from taking one of the devices home...
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 28, 2009, 03:38:16 AM
What if that was just a way to prevent journalists from taking one of the devices home...

Yeah, that very well could be, but knowing Nintendo this probably is how it will be. After all, Nintendo is the company that forces us to view a safety warning message EACH AND EVERY single time we start the console up and then again when we start a game. I know these messages aren't up for long, but they are damn annoying, and having to put up with them all the time pisses me off. But anyway, Nintendo seems to be very obsessed with safety (probably to avoid getting sued when people get hurt for swinging their remotes around like mad), so forcing consumers to have a protective skin on their controllers seems like something they would do.

What would suck about this for me is I already spent a good deal of money buying colored silicon skins for my controllers, aand those will be a waste if I have to get another new skin with M+ embedded in it.
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 28, 2009, 05:18:16 AM
Well, games published by MS on the 360 have a LOOOOOOOOONG epilepsy warning screen on startup, too...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 28, 2009, 11:00:45 AM
What if that was just a way to prevent journalists from taking one of the devices home...

Yeah, that very well could be, but knowing Nintendo this probably is how it will be. After all, Nintendo is the company that forces us to view a safety warning message EACH AND EVERY single time we start the console up and then again when we start a game. I know these messages aren't up for long, but they are damn annoying, and having to put up with them all the time pisses me off. But anyway, Nintendo seems to be very obsessed with safety (probably to avoid getting sued when people get hurt for swinging their remotes around like mad), so forcing consumers to have a protective skin on their controllers seems like something they would do.

What would suck about this for me is I already spent a good deal of money buying colored silicon skins for my controllers, aand those will be a waste if I have to get another new skin with M+ embedded in it.

In my honest opinion, now that Nintendo is famous among non gamers they can't afford to mess up and give crazy people the upper hand.

I mean, look at the nutjob who claimed that Animal Crossing shouldn't be played by adults. If the game didn't have strict security measures his claim might have been listened.

At the very least, if people claimed that they got hurt playing Wii Nintendo can say "we warned you again, again and again".
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Post by: Mop it up on March 28, 2009, 01:35:21 PM
Aren't those warning messages the result of a lawsuit to begin with? Some kid had an epileptic seizure whilst playing a Nintendo game and the kid's father tried to sue Nintendo claiming that there should be more warnings. Placing a warning message at startup was a part of the settlement, I believe...
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 28, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
Aren't those warning messages the result of a lawsuit to begin with? Some kid had an epileptic seizure whilst playing a Nintendo game and the kid's father tried to sue Nintendo claiming that there should be more warnings. Placing a warning message at startup was a part of the settlement, I believe...

I am not 100% sure, but that definitely seems to be the case.

Nintendo, like many companies, can't afford to be in court every time someone gets in an accident using their products.

While to us these measures might be extreme note that not everyone has the capacity to be safe and  careful, especially with physical activity. So that's why when playing Wii Fit the game warns you to take a break or to lean onto something if you are losing balance, because then if someone sues Nintendo under the belief that they weren't warned, Nintendo can say "Oh yes we did".
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 29, 2009, 05:08:13 AM
That is well and good, but it would be nice if there were a way you could disable those warnings. I've already viewed/read them so there's no point in me being harassed by them every time I want to load up a quick game.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on March 29, 2009, 06:40:59 AM
Aren't those warning messages the result of a lawsuit to begin with? Some kid had an epileptic seizure whilst playing a Nintendo game and the kid's father tried to sue Nintendo claiming that there should be more warnings. Placing a warning message at startup was a part of the settlement, I believe...

Yup, I noticed that Sony has been starting to doing a similar type of message at start up and PS1 games available on PSN and some PS3 games have them.
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Post by: Deguello on March 29, 2009, 10:03:29 AM
The case in question was a rather interesting mix of a mentally retarded, epileptic child who couldn't read very well and his mother who bought a GC game for him, and apparently didn't read the warnings on the back of the box and on the first page of the manual.  But this pre-game warning is specifically to deal with the possibility of somebody buying a used game without the box or booklet.  now they are basically lawsuit-proof on this issue.
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Post by: Louieturkey on March 30, 2009, 07:58:49 AM
The case in question was a rather interesting mix of a mentally retarded, epileptic child who couldn't read very well and his mother who bought a GC game for him, and apparently didn't read the warnings on the back of the box and on the first page of the manual.  But this pre-game warning is specifically to deal with the possibility of somebody buying a used game without the box or booklet.  now they are basically lawsuit-proof on this issue.
I thought it had to do with one of the original openings for the Pokemon anime in Japan.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2009, 11:16:29 AM
I thought it had to do with one of the original openings for the Pokemon anime in Japan.
Thats what I remember too. Nintendo just preemptively placed all those warning before everything to make sure they were covered on all angles.
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Post by: Caterkiller on March 30, 2009, 12:01:25 PM
The warnings started to come in majorly after the Yoshi Story Trial, where nintendo lost I believe. During our Gamecube days, some kid had seizures while playing Yoshis story, i'll never forget it.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2009, 12:26:53 PM
Was it 2003 we started seeing games shipped with the A-button Epilseippseilsy warnings?

I feel like they've disappeared, now replaced by the "CAUTION-DON'T BREAK **** OR GET WHACT BY YOUR WANGMOTE" screens.
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Post by: Stratos on March 30, 2009, 01:25:59 PM
Was it 2003 we started seeing games shipped with the A-button Epilseippseilsy warnings?

I feel like they've disappeared, now replaced by the "CAUTION-DON'T BREAK **** OR GET WHACT BY YOUR WANGMOTE" screens.

That's because the 'press A' screen appears at the Wii boot-up so if you press A to turn on your remotes you barely see the screen.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2009, 01:43:13 PM
ahahahah by golly, you're right!

Such an insignificant screen!  Much like ESRB ratings on game boxes!

On this subject, I believe ESRB ratings (w/ descriptors) should be the first or second screen to show when you load up a game (along with that dry boring voice that says "RATED EMM FOR MATOOR"), since they already show up on the box (which is ignored) and that the ESRB enforces the placement of ratings inside game trailers nowadays (to my frustration as a video sharer).  That way, Mom will see/hear/realize what a mistake she made to buy the game, then promptly return it, adversely affecting sales of "matoor" games.
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Post by: broodwars on March 30, 2009, 04:36:45 PM
ahahahah by golly, you're right!

Such an insignificant screen!  Much like ESRB ratings on game boxes!

On this subject, I believe ESRB ratings (w/ descriptors) should be the first or second screen to show when you load up a game (along with that dry boring voice that says "RATED EMM FOR MATOOR"), since they already show up on the box (which is ignored) and that the ESRB enforces the placement of ratings inside game trailers nowadays (to my frustration as a video sharer).  That way, Mom will see/hear/realize what a mistake she made to buy the game, then promptly return it, adversely affecting sales of "matoor" games.

Thing is, that would require extra programming and could complicate the game's boot proceedure.  The ESRB and the various publishers are perfectly fine with the ESRB rating being on the Title Screen so long as it's readable, and that's where I figure it'll stay (when publishers decide to use it at all) just because it's easy.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2009, 04:56:20 PM
Most boot logos are still images or movie clips.  It's not complicated to just lengthen a clip at the beginning or add another bitmap, which is unique and manually inserted for each game in the first place.  In fact, it's probably easier than getting a 480p release of MadWorld in PAL territories.

Where are these ratings on the Title Screen you speak of?  I don't seem to recall ANY these past few months, which brings me back to my original point of these labels being glossed over.

edit:  YOU CHEEKY BUGGER, you editedededed.
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Post by: broodwars on March 30, 2009, 08:49:15 PM
Most boot logos are still images or movie clips.  It's not complicated to just lengthen a clip at the beginning or add another bitmap, which is unique and manually inserted for each game in the first place.  In fact, it's probably easier than getting a 480p release of MadWorld in PAL territories.

Where are these ratings on the Title Screen you speak of?  I don't seem to recall ANY these past few months, which brings me back to my original point of these labels being glossed over.

edit:  YOU CHEEKY BUGGER, you editedededed.

Eh, I work QA for a company that puts the ESRB logo on the title screen, so I had assumed that was a new industry standard or something.  I re-edited because I went through some of my Wii collection and noticed the ESRB logo wasn't on the title screen at all.

But yeah, believe it or not there are standards in place for the various platforms that dictate how long a boot sequence can go, disregarding legal screens.  It's questionable if the ESRB logo could be considered a legal screen or not, however, since the ESRB has no legal authority.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 30, 2009, 09:04:01 PM
Are you inserting the logos on in-game title screens, or the Wii Disc Channel gateway screens?  I now recall seeing labels on those.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: broodwars on March 30, 2009, 09:15:08 PM
Are you inserting the logos on in-game title screens, or the Wii Disc Channel gateway screens?  I now recall seeing labels on those.

In-Game title, but I don't know about Wii.  My work doesn't include that platform.  Ironic, isn't it?

Incidentally, I should warn you that I can't really elaborate much further, just in case I'd violate some hidden clause of the NDA I signed when I was hired.  Nothing too secretive, but I rather like my job and would like to keep it.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2009, 11:18:35 PM
Can you say what company you work for?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: broodwars on March 30, 2009, 11:21:23 PM
Can you say what company you work for?

Not sure if I can say, but I'm sure my profile might give you a clue.  ^_-  Let's just say this company put out some surprisingly good games last year I'm dying to play on a PS3 when I finally get one.
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: ShyGuy on March 30, 2009, 11:26:06 PM
Can you say what company you work for?

Not sure if I can say, but I'm sure my profile might give you a clue.  ^_-  Let's just say this company put out some surprisingly good games last year I'm dying to play on a PS3 when I finally get one.

I need you to deliver a message for me. A message regarding DS:E...
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2009, 11:26:59 PM
Can you hook up NWR with an exclusive interview?
How about with the Dead Space Extraction team
or something involving EA Sports/Active games that are coming up within the next 60 days?
Title: Re: The OFFICIAL Wii rumor thread *bring your own salt*
Post by: broodwars on March 30, 2009, 11:28:41 PM