Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on August 04, 2004, 09:25:46 PM
Why couldn't they have spent the time making a sequel to Shenmue II? Why, oh why?Oh well, I would just about jump at any chance to revisit the world of Shenmue. Xiuying is HOT!!
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 04, 2004, 10:02:35 PM
So, hm, I wonder if they'll use it to advance the storyline in any manner - or hey, if it makes good money, it's a fair incentive to get the rest of the series out.
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 04, 2004, 10:45:02 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 05, 2004, 02:31:12 AM
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or hey, if it makes good money, it's a fair incentive to get the rest of the series out.
Yeah. I'm thinking Sega wants to make Shenmoo more well known to the gaming public and if they make some money from it, hopefully, we'll get our Shenmoo III. But what if the MMO game is story driven and goes beyond Guilin? That could mean bye bye Shenmoo III
Post by: StrikerObi on August 05, 2004, 06:39:49 AM
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 05, 2004, 09:25:49 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 05, 2004, 11:29:55 AM
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Shenmue sucks. How could looking for sailors online be any fun?
Yay for tired, unoriginal arguments! ^_^ Everybody always brings up the sailor thing, most of the time because they've never played the game themselves and are just repeating what they've heard. Shenmue isn't a game in the sense like Zelda or Mario where you have a defined goal and a set of enemies keeping you from that goal. The point of Shenmue is to explore and immerse yourself in the world- having lived in Japan made that experience much more familiar for me. The appeal of Shenmue is not beating up enemies and fighting huge bosses. It's more akin to a life sim with a loose story than a traditional game, it strikes the same chord. It's not for everyone, no, just like Animal Crossing isn't for everyone (Animal Crossing sucks. How could looking for seashells online be any fun?), but don't bash it so.
Post by: The Omen on August 05, 2004, 03:49:17 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 05, 2004, 04:32:50 PM
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I lived in Japan for 6 months, and I find Shenmue to be meh.
I lived in Japan for 3 years and then moved to Kansas- Shenmue was almost like a trip home for me.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 06, 2004, 09:52:52 PM
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Shenmue sucks. How could looking for sailors online be any fun?
Wow. I expected more intelligent from a PGC staff.
MC said it all.
Post by: ThePerm on August 07, 2004, 03:32:59 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on August 08, 2004, 07:01:09 PM
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Shenmue sucks. How could looking for sailors online be any fun?
Jeez whatever happened to intelligent mods? How can you lock threads when you exhibit the same behavior. If you don't like Shenmue that find, but you could at least say why. I despise FF7, a lot of people disagree with me. But whenever the topic comes up and I say I dont like FF7 because of the dumbed down battle system, shoddy story, and lack of character diversity due to materia. You could at least say why you don't like Shenmue.
Darc Requiem
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 12, 2004, 02:07:19 PM
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3v1lh4zuk1: would yuo liek 2 play a gaem of luky hit???!!11
lAnDi1470: stfu noob lol
There are pictures and video floating around, so go get 'em!
Post by: Lost101 on August 18, 2004, 07:38:26 PM
I have finished Shenmue (the first one) for the dreamcast and I honestly think if I had flushed $50 down the toilet it would have been more fun. It had amazing graphics and it was technically amazing, but I have no idea how this game is fun. The voice acting is horrible, it wouldnt be so bad if the gameplay didnt revolve around you just going around talking to one person who tells you to talk to another etc etc with a fight thrown in there every so often. There are so few action sequences and so few fights, I swear priests fight more often than Ryo. The only enjoyable part of the game was the 50 man fight and the old arcade game.
The storyline is horrible too, I never got to really know ryo and what he was all about because tapping the X button as quickly as I could cause I talked to the wrong person and they didnt trigger a story event. Nozomis romance for ryo felt cliche and forced, and all other characters are incredibly forgettable. And in the end you end up fighting the main bad guys hench guy, and all the questions posed near the beginning of the game (like the guy ryos father killed and such) go completely unanswered and Ryo goes on a homosexual boat ride.
I have always asked people why they enjoyed Shenmue so much but I never get a straight answer. I always hear "Oh you just dont get it" or "its a very deep enthralling game that sucks you into its world" which really means nothing.
A shenmue MMORPG would be a complete travesty. MMORPGs already have the curse of making you spend hours upon hours just doing nothing but killing the same monsters again and again so your character can get slightly stronger, how would this improve shenmue. I guess when your sitting around waiting to meet someone and you have 5 game hours of waiting to do you can atleast talk to the player next to you, misery loves company.
Did y'all know the word g ay is banned on these forums? Strange, I doesnt neccesarily have to be a negative thing. Whoever chose these rules must be a homophobe
Post by: rpglover on August 18, 2004, 07:49:42 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 18, 2004, 09:47:28 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2004, 12:15:38 AM
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Shenmue I helped Sega realize what NOT TO DO, and therefore Shenmue II was 3.1 discs of teh awesomeness. Dreamcast awesomeness.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 19, 2004, 02:58:56 AM
Well, I suppose it's worth it to play Shenmue I to grasp the story and toys and kittens, even if it is a little disappointing - it's worth it as a setup for Shenmue II, I guess.
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 19, 2004, 11:55:54 AM
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I have always asked people why they enjoyed Shenmue so much but I never get a straight answer. I always hear "Oh you just dont get it" or "its a very deep enthralling game that sucks you into its world" which really means nothing.
How does it mean nothing? Maybe it means nothing to YOU, but maybe this game isn't for you. Shenmue, quite honestly, offers a very unorthodox gaming experience. It is not based around the traditional challenge-reward system and if you go into the game either expecting or desiring it then of course you're going to come away dissapointed. Shenmue IS a deep enthralling game that sucks you into its world- how does that mean nothing? A game is an experience, and Shenmue creates its experience by drawing you into its finely crafted world and turning you loose. I'm sorry it's not your style of game, but that's no reason to say it sucks. Just because you may not like the game doesn't mean it was poorly made. Like I said, it's in the same vein as Animal Crossing- it's different, it presents a world and asks you to incorporate yourself into it. No, it's no for everyone (obviously), but you have fundamental problems with the entire game design, not surface issues such as bad voice acting (Animal Crossing looks like an N64 game but I still have a blast with it).
Ty: What exactly does Shenmue II offer that Shenmue doesn't? I wasn't aware of it being anything more than the same exact concept expanded upon.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 19, 2004, 01:40:10 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2004, 01:56:10 PM
Obvious things, graphics were noticeably better (texturing, character animations, map size, architecture, # of characters on-screen), music was better with nicer action/mystery-oriented themes given the Hong Kong setting (instead of being flat-out boring or irritating like the Hazuki Household), no English dubbing, no talking to people with your eyes 99% shut as if Ryo fell asleep standing up.
Gameplay/Adventuring. Story pacing was much MUCH better in my bloated-Kung-Fu-fighting-asian-movie-loving opinion. Shenmue II's (DC) Disc 1 has more action than all of Shenmue I. Fights are thankfully more frequent. Fighting mechanics and controls feel faster and more fluid, more responsive. Greater variety of character/fighting styles as well (it IS Hong Kong, afterall). QTE's are more frequent, way more EXCITING, tho the button combos are kinda insane. Increases the overall coolness factor. Adventuring/Investigation was streamlined in such a way that I don't remember any searches being so rediculously ambiguous as "looking for sailors." The pacing tries to make sure you're not stuck in an on-foot search for "too long." Acquiring cash is easier (thanks to gambling), no silly full-time jobs, and job mechanics are simpler in comparison. Puzzles are not as obscure as those in Resident Evil(s). Finding your way around and getting help from townsfolk isn't difficult. Ryo even has a wonderul "Stalker/Rape mode" view (I'm kidding, yet not. There is such a lock-on auto-follow mode).
I find the story/events more interesting, characters are more interesting (not "questionable" like Fuku-san was). Main character interactions are more frequent. Xiu Ying is HOT, and the Chun-Li fortune-teller chick is SO CUTE.
That's it in a nutshell. You don't have to believe me.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 19, 2004, 03:34:57 PM
The differences with the hugebox one are
1- english dubbing (lol)
2- you can take photos (of pretty sunsets or various booty shots) and save them on the HD
3- it's one DVD (comes with an extra DVD of the Shenmue move - basically a collection of the cutscenes)
I loved the total hilarious buddy movie feel when Ryo and Ren get chained together and do all the running around and fighting and hilarity. It's awesome.
And it's still 20 bux tops, new.
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 19, 2004, 03:42:52 PM
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Post by: Lost101 on August 19, 2004, 07:48:40 PM
Take the beginning of the game for example, the first thing you do is go and talk to your family (or whatever the old lady and the guy were, I dont know much about Japanese Dojos or whatever). Then you go outside and take care of a kitten. Sorry I never liked gigapets and none of the characters had anything interesting to say. The game does a somewhat decent job of mimicking reality, too bad it makes it boring.
Its funny hearing people talk about shenmue and the fun things you get to do in it, collect figurines? talk to people? the OCCASIONAL fight? is that it? Hell if people enjoy collecting figurines and fighting so much they would be blown away my Super Smash Bros Melee
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2004, 08:36:21 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 19, 2004, 11:41:36 PM
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So Shenmue sucks because you can't take pictures, but the inclusion of such a feature magically makes Shenmue II awesome? Obviously the play mechanics from Shenmue were improved in the sequel, but the game is still the exact same concept and idea. I don't see how you can hate the first game but love the second- that's like hating Soul Calibur but loving Soul Calibur 2.
read the posts
Post by: Deguello on August 19, 2004, 11:46:12 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 20, 2004, 12:51:02 AM
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Xiu Ying is HOT, and the Chun-Li fortune-teller chick is SO CUTE.
Shenhua is hotter!
And I should mention Izumi from the Tomato Convenience Store. And don't forget Fangmei. She's adorable!BTW, the Chun-Li fortune-teller chick name is Ailian He.
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And Lucky Hit is a bit more fun than driving a forklift.
I take it you are kidding (Lucky Hit as a job, not playing that is).
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I loved the total hilarious buddy movie feel when Ryo and Ren get chained together and do all the running around and fighting and hilarity. It's awesome.
Hehe.......disc 3 (Kowloon) is awesome. I especially loved the scene where Yuan got knocked out cold in her apartment! maximum lol
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 20, 2004, 12:56:57 AM
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I take it you are kidding (Lucky Hit as a job, not playing that is).
I meant playing it to earn money. As a job, it was pretty worthless, but it was entirely viable to figure out some boards to get lots of money, fast.
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 20, 2004, 12:59:06 AM
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I was watching Filter once and the worst game of all time was Shenmue 1 vs Zelda: wand of gamelon, and obviously zelda:wand of gamelon won. Still its kinda sad that people would stoop too low and rate Shenmue 1 as one of the worst games of all time.
I saw that to. I thought they were jokeing when I saw it.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2004, 01:53:19 AM
Yeaah.... Fang Mei is cute.... but.... she ran away screaming after "seeing" "Ryo" while waking him up in the morning. She's still quite a child.
Ryo was just dreaming again. I don't think Fang Mei wood be quite prepared for grown-up activities.
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on August 20, 2004, 08:40:47 AM
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Yeaah.... Fang Mei is cute.... but.... she ran away screaming after "seeing" "Ryo" while waking him up in the morning. She's still quite a child.
She IS 14 years old, you know?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 20, 2004, 10:12:14 AM
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on August 20, 2004, 10:27:04 AM
The graphics are awesome for its time, and still is today when compared to some of this gen's games.
The story of a son setting out to avenge the murder of his father might be a bit overused, but the story of a young man seeing his father murdered in front of him is not like something I've ever read before.
I like how Ryo has to interrogate different people to find clues, just like as if he was a detective. The voice acting might be bad as a whole, but I liked Goro's voice a lot. Nothing better than a Japanese Elvis to get a few laughs in
The pacing is slow for some people, but it was excellent for me. If I have to wait for an event to happen, then I'll just go to practice some moves (this is something that is sorely missing from Shenmue II). If I get tired of that, then I'll just go to the local arcade to play some games.
The best part of the game is the music. The music is very atmospheric, and very mood setting. The music complements the story wonderfully. Even today, I find listening to the music bring back a bit of nostalgia, of the memories of when I used to live in Ryo's world.
Am I making any sense? I dunno. Time for some more sleep.
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 20, 2004, 11:20:09 AM
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I did, I was exaggerating to make a point.
That point is that Shenmue II is based around the exact same concept that Shenmue was, so I find it hard to believe you can hate the original but love the sequel. To cite another example, that's like hating Age of Empires but loving Age of Empires II.
Post by: odifiend on August 20, 2004, 11:44:41 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 22, 2004, 03:35:55 PM
Dude tried out this cheeseburger. It is Version1 of this particular cheeseburger (Royale w/ cheese, haha). This Royale w/ cheese has 1 beef patty, a nice BBQ sauce, lots of onions, lots of pickles. Dude doesn't like onions, dude doesn't like pickles. But dude does really dig the BBQ sauce. Overall, dude doesn't like this Royale w/ cheese.
Dude tries out Version2. It has 2 beef patties, onion rings, more BBQ sauce, no onions, no pickles. Dude LOVES THIS BURGER. This Royale w/ cheese Version2 is like Shenmue II. Certain specifics about Version1 just doesn't sit well with dude.
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 22, 2004, 03:38:43 PM
I'm still confused, though. o_O I need to get my friend to give me Shenmue II.
Post by: rpglover on August 22, 2004, 07:03:55 PM
shenmue 2 is just as great, but for different reasons- they added a few different things so you didnt always have to start out at the same place in the mornings (you could jump with an option, but it takes time off the day), you could wait if you had to (say to meet someone at a diner at 7, you could go to the diner and choose wait and the clock would run up all the way to 7) and because of that the pace of shenmue 2 was quickened. but that does not mean it was a shorter game than shenmue- it had a huge land to explore- i would say roughly 1.5- 2 times as big as shenmue- and the gameplay was just the same, just more of what most people wanted- more free fights, more qte's (which are plentiful)
but on a whole the gameplay is exactly the same- aside from those few changes i highlighted above- so i figure that most people like the on your toes action of the qte's and the free fights than the exploring and questioning- and because shenmue 2 has all of that, it appeals to different people- personally i love both games- and you cant go wrong with either of them in my opinion- i just hope there is a real shenmue 3 to finish the story
Post by: mouse_clicker on August 22, 2004, 07:32:00 PM
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i just hope there is a real shenmue 3 to finish the story
They're going to need more than a Shenmue 3 to finish the story. The game has 16 chapters in it- Shenmue was Chapter 1 and Shenmue II was Chapters 3, 4, and 5, I believe (6 could've been in there, too). I'd rather they not cram 10 whole chapters into one game. Although it's doubtful they'll be any new Shenmue games, period.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 23, 2004, 02:20:39 AM
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They're going to need more than a Shenmue 3 to finish the story. The game has 16 chapters in it- Shenmue was Chapter 1 and Shenmue II was Chapters 3, 4, and 5, I believe (6 could've been in there, too). I'd rather they not cram 10 whole chapters into one game. Although it's doubtful they'll be any new Shenmue games, period.
Shenmue II was chapter 3-6 (take each DC disc as a chapter). Chapter 2 was the boat ride to Hong Kong.
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on August 24, 2004, 09:02:30 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 24, 2004, 09:39:08 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on August 26, 2004, 03:37:43 AM
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I think Shenmue II is chapters 3-5, with each location being one chapter. So Hong Kong is chapter 3, Kowloon is chapter 4, and Guilin is chapter 5.
Nope. Hong Kong is 2 chapters - Aberdeen and Wan Chai; thus making the game 4 chapters in total. The Shenmue Dojo proves it (warning, the site may contain spoilers). Scroll down till you see a picture of the chapters written on a white board. This is from an interview (link from site).
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I read that Shenmue is coming to the PC, too. Anyone know details?
Huh? Where you get the rumor? I can't imagine playing Shenmue with a keyboard. O_o
Post by: KDR_11k on August 26, 2004, 04:18:39 AM
Post by: rpglover on August 26, 2004, 05:16:31 AM
i got this quote from the shenmue dojo- http://www.planetxbox.com/shenmuedojo/shenmue3_preview.shtml
"The storty is completed. The problem is we have not decided whether or not to move foreward with designing the game yet. If there's a demand for it, we'd love to make it, but it is undecided" ~Yu Suzuki~
Seeing how the story is completed this backs ups his previous statements about finishing the series with a third game. In a Techtv interview he said the series would span with "3 installments" and in the Japanese magazine Dorimaga he said once Shenmue 3 was given the go ahead the rest of the 16 chapters would be included. All this hints at one thing and that is Shenmue 3 could very well conclude the saga of Shenmue."
and this one comes from Dorimaga-
"Dorimaga also asked Sega-AM2's Yu Suzuki whether Shenmue 3 is going to happen. He said that development could begin immediately were Sega to give the project the go-ahead. If it were to happen, the remaining 16 chapters of the game would be included."
of course i agree with you though- i would not want them to cram the last ten chapters in at once in a single game, but if push comes to shove and its the only way to get my shenmue fix, i'll take it
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 26, 2004, 12:35:38 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 27, 2004, 12:14:22 AM
