Post by: Mario on June 30, 2004, 12:11:40 AM
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Now the company is working hard on Too Human for the Xbox... The game will only be released for the Xbox and not the PlayStation 2 or GameCube.
Hmmm.. if this rumour is to believed, then Denis Dyack sure has screwed Nintendo fans.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on June 30, 2004, 12:42:19 AM
I still have no desire to play Eternal Darkness or Metal Gear Solid: TITS K*N*O*C*K*E*R*S
Take that Mr. developer!
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 30, 2004, 01:39:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
Hmmm.. if this rumour is to believed, then Denis Dyack sure has screwed Nintendo fans.
Make that: PS fans first, then Nintendo fans second!
......maybe Xbox fans will be the third? oh noes, SK has delayed the game for the millionth time, now making it Panasonic 3DO exclusive! lol....
Post by: DrZoidberg on June 30, 2004, 02:26:36 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 30, 2004, 04:31:29 AM
Anyway, as I own a Xbox, I will not say that I won't buy the game, if the gave even really does exist and this is not a rumor, but if I do buy the game, it will have to be so damn perfect that nothing about the game is false. Perfect, not the idea of perfect, but the actual meaning of the word perfect. I am being a butt, but that is my right. I spend my hard earned money on Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes both and this is what we get. So the only way I will buy Too Human is if the game is perfect If it has a weak camera, or poor character development, or any of the other fallible things that a game can possess, then I will spend my money elsewhere.
Post by: AMac2002 on June 30, 2004, 07:07:09 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on June 30, 2004, 07:41:04 AM
What about Tetris? How could one possibly improve on it?
Anyway if Too Human turned out to be a PS2 exclusive I'd be annoyed but would agree with the decision from a business perspective. The PS2 is the market leader and virtually every game would in theory sell better on it than on Gamecube. The fact that it may be an Xbox exclusive however pisses me off big time since the Xbox is NOT the market leader and is NOT a system where games are guaranteed to sell better. The only reason SK would dump the Cube for the Xbox is because of moneyhats from MS. I don't approve of Microsoft outright buying "name" developers and I significantly lose respect for developers that MS has bought out be it Bungie, Oddworld, or Rare. This is the sort of monopolizing giant corporation tactic that people were afraid MS would ruin the industry with and Xbox fans claimed wasn't an issue.
Sure Sony and Nintendo have bought developers but they're usually small unknown developers that they take under their wing or third parties they have a strong relationship with. Sure every company pays for exclusives but MS does it in a much dirtier way. Sony and Nintendo will get a third party to make them an exclusive title. MS buys developers to snatch up exclusive titles already being made for another platform that already have hype. Halo, Munch's Oddessy, Shenmue II, Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero, and now possibly Too Human all got their start on another platform only to be nabbed by MS at the last minute. Nintendo has inadvertingly promoted THREE Xbox exclusives at past E3s because of this. Those are strongarm bully tactics and they're the sort of thing I don't want to see in the game industry.
I'm not buying Too Human on the Xbox. I was told that when I bought a Cube at launch that Silicon Knights and Rare would provide exclusive Cube support. They changed the "deal" on me so I'm not going to support either of them.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on June 30, 2004, 08:27:17 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 30, 2004, 09:41:10 AM
Post by: Deguello on June 30, 2004, 11:00:48 AM
Post by: SgtShiversBen on June 30, 2004, 12:23:58 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 30, 2004, 12:40:26 PM
Even though I don't really care for SK's games, I still have a sinking feeling that anyone who believes this is falling right into Dyack's hands...
Post by: SgtShiversBen on June 30, 2004, 03:21:21 PM
Post by: Pale on June 30, 2004, 03:39:25 PM
QuoteBecause Eternal Darkness is one of the best games ever.
Originally posted by: manunited4eva22
So if this is true, then well, remind me why we care about this game anyway? Xbox 3 should be it's expected launch.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on June 30, 2004, 04:14:50 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 30, 2004, 04:15:55 PM
Post by: W_A_S_P on June 30, 2004, 04:32:38 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on June 30, 2004, 04:42:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"There is no perfect game, sorry..."
What about Tetris? How could one possibly improve on it?
The music.
And try some real games, not parlour. I mean you could say the same about Tic-Tac-Toe...
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 30, 2004, 04:54:30 PM
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And try some real games, not parlour. I mean you could say the same about Tic-Tac-Toe...
How the hell is Tetris not a real videogame? The thing practically invented the puzzle genre, and it deserves just as much credit and respect, if not much more so, than any other game out there. Never downplay the role Tetris played in this industry.
Post by: BlueKitten on June 30, 2004, 04:55:20 PM
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And try some real games, not parlour. I mean you could say the same about Tic-Tac-Toe...
How the hell is Tetris not a real videogame? The thing practically invented the puzzle genre, and it deserves just as much credit and respect, if not much more so, than any other game out there. Never downplay the role Tetris played in this industry.
I agree! i loved that game!
Post by: DrZoidberg on June 30, 2004, 06:51:11 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clickerQuote
And try some real games, not parlour. I mean you could say the same about Tic-Tac-Toe...
How the hell is Tetris not a real videogame? The thing practically invented the puzzle genre, and it deserves just as much credit and respect, if not much more so, than any other game out there. Never downplay the role Tetris played in this industry.
I agree! i loved that game!
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Yall's word dont make sence to me@,@
I agree! I hate these sort of posts. So stop it.
Post by: Pale on June 30, 2004, 07:29:27 PM
How did zoidy end up a moderator???? What did i miss?? =P
Please don't banninate me
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 30, 2004, 07:31:17 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 30, 2004, 07:39:29 PM
band for sucking up
Post by: DrZoidberg on June 30, 2004, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 01, 2004, 03:56:27 AM
It is possible and it has been done. Tetris Attack on SNES comin' like what. November 9th. Pre-order now for a bonus making of DVD and a shiny metal case.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on July 01, 2004, 09:36:58 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 01, 2004, 10:40:24 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on July 02, 2004, 06:23:29 AM
I don't really mind either way, Silicon Knights makes great games, but they don't really suit my tastes. I prefer sissy-boy games with cute furry characters.
Post by: Deguello on July 02, 2004, 08:32:09 AM
A. The Xbox (their style of game definitely won't sell there)
B. Sega (Struggling now, not so bad, but then consider...)
C. Sega ON the Xbox.
An SK-produced, Sega-published game on the Xbox is quite possibly the recipe for the worst selling game ever.
Post by: ThePerm on July 02, 2004, 08:56:07 AM
Post by: SgtShiversBen on July 02, 2004, 10:30:23 AM
Post by: Deguello on July 02, 2004, 12:06:52 PM
In the NPD thread in GameCube Discussion, I said that Eternal Darkness outsold JSRF (A launch Xbox Title) and Panzer Dragoon Orta (which had rave reviews and a massive ad campaign) combined. If The Twin Snakes sells at the rate it is, it will probably outsell Eternal Darkness by the end of this year. If sales are what they are concerned with, then they are already doing better than what Sega and the Xbox can hypothetically benefit them. So that means Denis has done something foolish, Denis is now a pawn of Microsoft wearing a big moneyhat, or this is all just bull-malarkey made up by a site to draw attention to itself.
Post by: SgtShiversBen on July 02, 2004, 12:12:55 PM
Post by: Draygaia on July 02, 2004, 12:39:28 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 02, 2004, 10:47:39 PM
Post by: Mario on July 03, 2004, 12:47:47 AM
Post by: ThePerm on July 10, 2004, 11:59:05 AM
also i remember one of the things acclaim used to talk about in the n64 days..i remember someone saying somehtign to this extent. "playstation is a more popular contender...however because we support n64 with more exclusives...we do better because its a smaller market..thus all our resources go to making better games on n64 and the smaller market is enough to allow us to sell millions of copies of turok because we don't have to compete with everyone elses games"....well in the generation change this was dropped and acclaim is going out of business.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 10, 2004, 12:43:52 PM
*Reality hits with the truth that Shenmue II wasn't on GameCube nor U.S. Dreamcast.
*Cries.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 10, 2004, 10:06:31 PM
Post by: Mumei on July 10, 2004, 10:24:15 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 10, 2004, 10:31:05 PM
You want a better bit of trivia, though? Sonic Adventure 2: Battle outsold all Sega's XBox exclusives combined. If Sega's profits are doubling, it's certainly not because of their XBox games.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 11, 2004, 02:57:16 AM
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If Sega's profits are doubling, it's certainly not because of their XBox games.
It's b/c of their 2 or so games on the n-gage?
Post by: Syl on July 11, 2004, 05:31:29 AM
Either way, i don't believe this rumor, and I know the staff over at gamedaily. I won't believe anything i hear about SK till i see it officially.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2004, 07:21:57 AM
Post by: Syl on July 11, 2004, 12:10:12 PM
Post by: odifiend on July 11, 2004, 03:05:36 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 11, 2004, 03:55:27 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 11, 2004, 04:18:22 PM
Post by: Mario on July 11, 2004, 10:49:15 PM
Sega has made far more money on GCN than PS2 and Xbox.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 11, 2004, 11:34:39 PM
Post by: Mario on July 11, 2004, 11:37:36 PM
Sonic Heroes PS2 - 215,334
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 12, 2004, 07:00:47 AM
Post by: Syl on July 12, 2004, 09:07:43 AM
I've actually found myself not liking sega nearly a much these days, they still make great games, but lately other 3rd party's seem to be trumping them for titles I cannot live without.
Post by: Djunknown on July 12, 2004, 01:58:23 PM
Maybe I should it put this in my sig: I want Shenmue III before I'm 30. I don't care what system, as long as its out before I'm up to my ears in credit card debt, have 3 noisy children, and a wife who nags me to prune the roses.
