Post by: Procoprio on June 07, 2004, 06:22:43 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 07, 2004, 07:18:39 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 07, 2004, 08:47:40 AM
Post by: boggy b on June 07, 2004, 09:40:52 AM
Hrrrm.
What was wrong with Lament of Innocence, anyway? It's the best Castlevania since Symphony of the Night.
Post by: Deguello on June 07, 2004, 10:36:57 AM
Quit kidding yourself. Aria of Sorrow and Circle of the Moon trounce it.
Post by: Syl on June 07, 2004, 12:21:04 PM
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And you think there are ANY game companies who would rather make losses to satisfy the public than make games that will alienate some people but make them more cash?
Hrrrm.
What was wrong with Lament of Innocence, anyway? It's the best Castlevania since Symphony of the Night.
I actually had to stop playing lament of innocence, i just got plain BORED with the title. The only thing that kept me going as long as i did was the fact that the music was really good.
Its hard to pinpoint what about it i disliked really, but I'm sure it mainly has to do with the jumping system, level design, and all around combat the title offered.
but, as i said, the music was great.
Post by: Gibdo Master on June 07, 2004, 12:42:56 PM
I honestly don't care about the series anymore. Iga has just raped the poor thing to death. Maybe if Konami kicks his ass out of there and returns the series to its roots, I'll be interested. I'm really sick of the Castletroid crap, and I wouldn't mind if the protagonist didn't look like a character out of one of Anne Rice's books.
I have a feeling the series is going to be on hiatus for a while now anyway.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 07, 2004, 04:11:57 PM
EXP +5000
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Post by: Gremio on June 08, 2004, 01:06:24 AM
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From my understanding Lament didn't do too well in sells despite the "larger userbase". Ha Ha.
Yeah, I read about the poor sales of LoI someplace. Has Castlevania ever been a big seller, though? (no idea) Maybe more interest for the Castlevania series is with the Nintendo userbase?
I'd really like to see Konami bring out a Gamecube Castlevania. And a DDR GCN game. Yeah.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 08, 2004, 02:55:39 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 08, 2004, 06:20:35 AM
A DDR game for GCN would be great, 4 player dancing!
Post by: metaknight_Xaer0 on June 08, 2004, 09:25:39 AM
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Originally posted by: Gibdo Master From my understanding Lament didn't do too well in sells despite the "larger userbase". Ha Ha.
I honestly don't care about the series anymore. Iga has just raped the poor thing to death. Maybe if Konami kicks his ass out of there and returns the series to its roots, I'll be interested. I'm really sick of the Castletroid crap, and I wouldn't mind if the protagonist didn't look like a character out of one of Anne Rice's books.
I have a feeling the series is going to be on hiatus for a while now anyway.
I totally agree with ya there. The do need to look back at their roots and come out with a descent Castlevania Game. I dont think that Konami has had a "Large Userbase" since the NES with TMNT or the Castlevania series. The need to take a look back and figure out "what are we doing wrong". Hudson has released collections of its games (in Japan), Nintendo with the Zelda Collectors Edition, and so is Capcom with it Mega Man Collection, maybe if the re-released Castlvania 1-4, Dracula X, and Castlevania 64 on a single GCN disc! Maybe that will get gamers re-intrested in the whole Castlevania Series. I think that the only thing that Konami has is Hidio Kajima, the master mind of the MGS series. IMO, The series story, plot, and espionage makes OO7 look like a kid. Maybe he sould get introduced to the whole CV team and make a great game together
Post by: Ian Sane on June 08, 2004, 09:48:04 AM
I assume by Dracula X you mean the Japan-only title Rondo of Blood and not the crappy "port" that was later released on the SNES. Drop off Castlevania 64 and replace it with Castlevania Bloodlines and Symphony of the Night and I'm there. Hell just a double pack of Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night would be great.
Post by: Gibdo Master on June 08, 2004, 10:13:41 AM
Symphony of the Night was a breath of fresh air, but you have to continue to be innovative and not just get into another rut.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 10:47:28 AM
Post by: metaknight_Xaer0 on June 08, 2004, 11:50:39 AM
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"maybe if the re-released Castlvania 1-4, Dracula X, and Castlevania 64 on a single GCN disc!"
I assume by Dracula X you mean the Japan-only title Rondo of Blood and not the crappy "port" that was later released on the SNES. Drop off Castlevania 64 and replace it with Castlevania Bloodlines and Symphony of the Night and I'm there. Hell just a double pack of Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night would be great.
A re-release of the Dracula X: Rondo of Blood would be a great one. Especially if it wasnt upgraded and keep the same like the TG-16 version. I mean come on its the most sought after CV ever, it goes for almost 250.00 on EBaY. I would stand it line for ever if the re-released it. I dont have much to say for CV: Bloodlines never owned a Genesis or even played it in a EMU. What is so wrong with the Castlevania for the 64? i thought it was innovated and a great game and about the only reason i got a Used N64 from a friend. What about the first one most people think is part of the Saga, "Haunted Mansion" for the Arcade?
Double Pack:
SotN (Sega Saturn Version; Play as Maria and other cool stuff)
Dracula X (TG-16 Version)
CV Collection:
Castlevania 1, 2, & 3 (NES)
Super Castlevania IV (SNES)
Castlevania 1 (& 2) 64 (N 64)
?Could you fit SotN and Drac X one 1 CD?
Post by: couchmonkey on June 08, 2004, 01:27:08 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 01:29:49 PM
haha
Post by: Infernal Monkey on June 08, 2004, 04:24:45 PM
blol Castlevania 64 more like fog town. 'Cause I forgot to put the fog lights iiiinnn.
Post by: darknight06 on June 08, 2004, 05:22:01 PM
Post by: metaknight_Xaer0 on June 08, 2004, 05:31:10 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 06:00:20 PM
From videos I saw, it played even simpler than CV64, lacking any targeting whatsoever. Camera control was automated and fairly robotic, always stuck well behind the character's back. The partnering of past and present Belmonts was kinda "yuck", but I thought playing as Sonia Belmont would be cool. Unfortunately, IGA, the forking genius he is, never liked Sonia (originally from GameBoy) and tried to erase her existence by giving us Lamer of Innocense. WHICH IS IRONIC CUZ I NEVER LIKED THAT LAMER LEON AND L.O.I. HAD THE MOST UNORIGINAL PLOT AND THE MOST UNINTERESTING "EVERYTHING" IN THE ENTIRE SERIES. "iNNOVATIVE MECHANICS + GREAT MUSIC ADDED UP TO A FANTASTIC PILE OF "meh"!
Post by: Gibdo Master on June 08, 2004, 06:28:33 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 07:31:29 PM
In L.O.I, the whole "my woman killed herself but can't goto heaven, i hate you 'Big Man Upstairs', I'll sell my soul and become the Dark Prince" idea originally written by Bram Stoker was cut&pasted into the antagonist's backstory -- even the woman he lost was named "Elizabetha" -- BUT FOR SOME REASON HIS NAME'S NOT "Dracula"!? So if this guy's not Dracula, the Dracula we know and love to whip simply waltzes in later in the series? "Hi, I'm Dracula. This is Castlevania #1. Come to my castle. Wipe your feet before you step inside. Thanks."
I refuse to accept that the Belmont's origins were this lame.
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 09:45:34 PM
They should go back to that, perhaps make it more like Zelda. In the Action/Adventure RPG Hybrid.
or let it come back in awesome console 2-D'ness, would be awesome. Atleast they better have a good one for the DS.
The same applies to Contra, Konami hasn't used either franchise to their full potentinal.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 08, 2004, 09:50:56 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on June 08, 2004, 10:00:53 PM
I don't know if he can pull a good one off, but it'll be something different than what iga is doing.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 10:10:55 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on June 09, 2004, 05:21:00 AM
Anyway, I think it's a shame Konami can't seem to revive the series, I miss it.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 10, 2004, 04:11:33 AM
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Yeah, I haven't played the game, but from what I've read I really don't like what he's done with the mythology of the series. Instead of it being based on Bram Stoker's Dracula, he's apparently created his own mythology which just happens to have a vampire named Dracula. Blech.
His name was Walter, or something like that. The fact that Konami is trying to change the story to make their own Dracula is dumb. Lament of Innocence was suppose to be the first showdown between Belmonts and Dracula, but Dracula wasn't even in the game, just some lame guy named Walter and Death, the Grim Reaper as the final boss. If Walter is Dracula, then Konami just severely bastardized their own franchise. LoI was suppose to be an experiment game, why I don't know since the game came out so late in the PS2's lifecycle, and the fact that Konami ripped off Devil May Cry's game play and made a game that really had very little to do with Castlevania's mythos. They really took the series feel way back to the first in the series, you can't all of a sudden take out the leveling up and stuff, that was a major con to the game. It never felt like a Castlevania game.
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Or they could make a dating sim with a story written by Ann Rice...and add whipping stuff to it! Ha ha ha ha, Ann Rice is scary.
The only thing scary around Anne Rice is that every one of books is the same story with a different character. And that every single character she creates is a sure bet to be either Homosexual or Bisexual, for no apparent reason at all, other than the fact Anne Rice seems to has an obsession with vampires who live the alternative life style.
Post by: Oldskool on June 13, 2004, 12:50:15 AM
Post by: Darc Requiem on June 13, 2004, 09:30:51 AM
Darc Requiem
Post by: darknight06 on June 13, 2004, 12:02:26 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 13, 2004, 12:54:52 PM
Since some of us do want a Castlevania from some group without Iga, why not give KCEK (GBA Castlevanias, N64 Castlevanias) another chance at an original, current-gen Castlevania project? 2D or 3D, I don't mind, as long as it comes out well.
I'd like to see a 2.5D Castlevania with detailed 3D modeling and landscaping. So, the terrain could actually flow in different angles yet still be sidescrolling like Viewtiful Joe, but it'd be even prettier than FFCC. And by using a 3D engine, realtime cutscenes would be easy to implement.
