Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: giosmrbig on June 06, 2004, 05:24:15 AM
Title: the new zelda game !!!! E3 2004
Post by: giosmrbig on June 06, 2004, 05:24:15 AM
have you seen , the new zelda TRAILER presented at the E3 show ??
it's REALLY, REALLY a dream coming true !!!! a new realistic LINK !!!
i think the new game will show all the graphic power of the game cube !!!!
i'm so happy for that , and i can't wait to play this new episode !!!!
YEAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 06, 2004, 08:18:00 AM
Oh, for god's sake.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 06, 2004, 08:43:38 AM
Graphics whore like what?
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Post by: Jale on June 06, 2004, 10:27:28 AM
Meh, screw the graphics WE HAVE HORSES AGAIN! HORSEBACK COMBAT! WOOT!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 06, 2004, 02:30:51 PM
Zelda sucks!
Daisy rulez!
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Post by: evil intentions on June 06, 2004, 05:00:16 PM
As does Kaolla...WAY more than Shinobu
Edit: Sorry I couldn't help myself...
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Post by: Armed and Dangerous on June 09, 2004, 10:21:36 AM
I havnt heard much of this so called, "new zelda", but what i have heard has made me wanna make a time machine, go into the future, buy a copy, come back, and laugh in my friends greasy faces.
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Post by: elementc on June 17, 2004, 03:43:35 AM
Could you get me some of that grease?! I'm kinda low on money and could really use some to make fried chicken. MM... CHICKEN!!
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Post by: Berny on June 17, 2004, 02:32:12 PM
I started cracking up when I saw that. Cat tribe in Zelda? I surely hope not.
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Post by: Jale on June 18, 2004, 07:58:59 AM
Could be another Zora incarnation.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 18, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
You have something against cat-people!? Grrrr...
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Post by: nitsu niflheim on June 18, 2004, 09:54:01 AM
Bill and Infernal, both have a thing for cat people. I have heard rumors that this is gonna be a major-scale remake of the original Zelda game, anybody else heard that, or have I just gone crazy?
Title: RE:the new zelda game !!!! E3 2004
Post by: Jale on June 18, 2004, 10:04:45 AM
Cats are evil
Dogs rule
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Post by: Chode2234 on June 18, 2004, 11:09:52 AM
I hope its not a remake, the original wasn't that great and that much fun aside from novelty and 'nes'talgia
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Post by: evil intentions on June 18, 2004, 07:48:21 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Jale Cats are evil
Dogs rule
Monkeys dominate over them all!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 18, 2004, 07:59:03 PM
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Post by: elementc on June 18, 2004, 08:49:37 PM
Cats are awesome. Dogs are FILTHY FLEABAGS. I'm going to get Everquest II because of the wonderful catpeople!! meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
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Post by: elementc on June 18, 2004, 08:54:47 PM
Almost forgot... IT HAD BETTER NOT BE A REMAKE. I want to find out what happened to Hyrule. You know... the ocean and all, how in heck did it get drained?! How do we get the Master Sword when it's lodged in Ganondorf's head?! WHATEVER HAPPENED TO OOT'S LINK?! Sorry about that little bout of caps lock, I was just really dissapointed with Wind Waker for not saying what happened to OOT's Link. Besides that, the original Zelda does kinda suck (I HATE THE OLD MAN ARGHH!!). If you don't agree I don't care.
Title: RE:the new zelda game !!!! E3 2004
Post by: Jale on June 19, 2004, 12:25:27 AM
I never played the original so it wouldn't affect me, but I still want a brand new game that does somehow fit into the storyline.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 19, 2004, 05:41:53 AM
The original game does *not* suck, it's just that most people have been spoiled by playing the later games first...
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Post by: Jale on June 19, 2004, 06:25:45 AM
I don't think that the original game sucls I think that it was the beginning of the era that is Zelda.
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Post by: evil intentions on June 19, 2004, 09:58:30 AM
Heh, I don't think so, Bill. Monkeys having healing abilities and guns.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 19, 2004, 10:48:32 AM
What are they shooting her with? Ketchup?
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Post by: evil intentions on June 19, 2004, 02:38:34 PM
Excuse me for not being an artist. No, they are shooting her with bullets and that red stuff is blood.
Monkey's rule all!! ^_^
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Post by: elementc on June 19, 2004, 08:54:34 PM
Ok, I'm sorry. The original Zelda doesn't suck. I was just in a bad mood that night. Though I do hate the old man with all of my being!!
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 19, 2004, 10:18:08 PM
It's not a remake. There was an interview during E3 in which Aunoma was asked if it was, and he replied that it was a completely original game.
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Post by: elementc on June 20, 2004, 11:00:26 AM
GOOD!! WOOOOOOO!! Thank you for finally clearing that up for everyone!!
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Post by: evil intentions on June 21, 2004, 07:44:37 AM
Tune it down a bit, elementc.
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Post by: Burning Excalibur on June 21, 2004, 01:45:21 PM
Yes, Wind Waker did kinda leave us in the dark. Here we are in this little OoT world, killin stuff, ridin on are beautiful little Epona, shootin light arrows, catchin little fairies, and then... IT'S GONE! IT'S ALL GONE! THE HORSE! THE... THE HORSE! IT'S GONE, PLUS MORE! I LIKED GOIN FISHIN! IT WASTED DAYTIME! AND NIGHTTIME! So here's this little Link wanna-be comin in takin all the fun outta killin stuff, sailing on this big ass ocean since HYRULE IS UNDERWATER. WTF? Underwater??? Then we just jam the Master Sword in Ganondorf's head, turn him to stone. Where's the Sword? OH GOD! THE HORROR! THE HORROR!
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Post by: Forte on June 21, 2004, 03:51:07 PM
Yeah, I thought the story for Wind Waker was pretty lame. Sure, it was a really fun game, but I liked the Link from OOT. He was...better than cell shaded Link. Did our Link just die?! I know 100 years is a long time, but Link dead is just an outrage! I know that I'm arguing with my own signature on the bottom, but Link needs to come back. I hope this new Zelda game maked Wind Waker and Four Swords a dream or something because realistic Link is the real hero in this game series, not a little boy who loves magical yellow soup(No offense to the idea of making you stronger of course). I still don't really get Wind Waker's storyline. How could Link be dead, but Zelda be alive? It's been awile since I last played it, but I think that's what King Hyrule said. I just don't get it. They need to clear something up in the next game. Also, I heard that they were saving the next realistic Zelda for the next system, but thank God you're all saying that it's for the Gamecube...I don't know if I could wait until the next system, when will it be...2006 or something?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 21, 2004, 04:01:39 PM
Screw the "realistic" hero BS. That also practically denounces the Link to the Past Link, which is blasphemy since OoT owes a lot to its predecessor.
BRING BACK DA zELDA1 DUDE!
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Post by: mjbd on June 21, 2004, 04:02:11 PM
Ok, I think there is some confusion on how WW lines up. The Link in WW is not the same Link as in OoT, same goes for Zelda. Every time evil threatens the world, a hero is born to overcome it. That doesnt mean every Link is related. What happended to the Link from OoT, he probably enroled in therapy, saving the world is alot of stress on a kid. In the game, it states that its been hundreds of years since OoT took place. The timeline will never make sence, at best, a few games here and there will line up.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 21, 2004, 04:21:01 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Forte Yeah, I thought the story for Wind Waker was pretty lame. Sure, it was a really fun game, but I liked the Link from OOT. He was...better than cell shaded Link. Did our Link just die?! I know 100 years is a long time, but Link dead is just an outrage! I know that I'm arguing with my own signature on the bottom, but Link needs to come back. I hope this new Zelda game maked Wind Waker and Four Swords a dream or something because realistic Link is the real hero in this game series, not a little boy who loves magical yellow soup(No offense to the idea of making you stronger of course). I still don't really get Wind Waker's storyline. How could Link be dead, but Zelda be alive? It's been awile since I last played it, but I think that's what King Hyrule said. I just don't get it. They need to clear something up in the next game. Also, I heard that they were saving the next realistic Zelda for the next system, but thank God you're all saying that it's for the Gamecube...I don't know if I could wait until the next system, when will it be...2006 or something?
How many Zelda games have you played? From the sounds of it you've only played OoT and WW. There's about 10 Zelda games in total, and most of these have a different Link and Zelda in them. The OoT Link has only been in two games; OoT and MM.
Having an attachment to a specific Link is retarded too, since they're all about the same. The only real difference is the age and art style with which they are depicted. Link has never even had a personality to speak of in any of the games because you, the player, are supposed to be Link. Also Link has been a little kid in the majority of the Zelda games. In fact one of the reasons I fell in love with the first Zelda game was because the hero was a 10 year old kid. Being about 5 at the time, I thought I it was the greatest thing in the world that the hero wasn't some muscle bound adult. Out of those 10 games, the only ones to have an adult Link are Adventure of Link, OoT, and now the new game coming out. That's 3 out of a 11.
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Post by: Berny on June 21, 2004, 04:53:44 PM
I dunno, Gibdo. I'm pretty attached to the new "sexy" Link myself. But yeah, I like WW's kid link better than every other one so far. Except maybe OniLink but that's just cause his pupils were all not there. ^_^
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 21, 2004, 05:19:47 PM
Actually, I still follow the rule that 18 is the age one becomes an adult...Following that, Link has never been an adult...His max age was 17 in OoT(And also likely in WW2)...(Link was 16 in LA)
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 21, 2004, 05:27:22 PM
Link is Link to me. The only preference I really have is with the kid Links. To me, the Zelda series has always been about living out childhood fantasies, which is why I feel that a kid Link fits better than an adult Link. Adult Link is pretty cool too though.
My main problem with Forte's post is the stupid attitude noobs have that OoT is the first and only Zelda game. It's usually these types that only seem to care about the graphics and what age Link is.
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Post by: Shecky on June 21, 2004, 05:53:33 PM
I'm going to ditto Gibdo Master. It's supposed to be about this kid who defeats the king of evil. I don't prefer any style, they all seem fitting for the game.... as long as they stay away from any middle aged "Connan the Barbarian" Link
People also get way to hyped about "the different links" and "putting all the games together".
Bah, just use the current story line for the game and use your imagination each time.... Heck, I've wrapped multiple stories around the same game, it's just part of the fun of enjoying *that* game in the series.
All the arguments about this link, that link, this timeline, that timeline, blah, blah, blah
-Shecky
The wooden sword is a viable weapon....
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Post by: evil intentions on June 21, 2004, 07:29:13 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Gibdo Master
Out of those 10 games, the only ones to have an adult Link are Adventure of Link, OoT, and now the new game coming out. That's 3 out of a 11.
I don't think the Link in WW would be an adult yet. I agree with Bill on they are an adult when they turn 18. I like playing with the younger Links the best. The only reason why I played as the adult in OoT the most was because I enjoyed riding Epona.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 21, 2004, 07:43:20 PM
Quote Originally posted by: evil intentions
Quote Originally posted by: Gibdo Master
Out of those 10 games, the only ones to have an adult Link are Adventure of Link, OoT, and now the new game coming out. That's 3 out of a 11.
I don't think the Link in WW would be an adult yet.
I didn't mention WW though.
Bill is being overly technical about the term "adult" though, since people are just trying to separate the two age groups Link is usually in. I mean, you can call him teenage Link, older Link, or whatever you want too, but it basically means the same thing.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 21, 2004, 07:48:11 PM
I prefer to use Big Link and Kid Link. Less syllables involved.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 21, 2004, 08:13:11 PM
Of course I'm being overly technical, because the Legend of Zelda is my favorite series and I follow it to a t...
But I'd also like to add that I'm also more fond of the younger Links because a young lad saving the world is just much more fantastic than an older person saving the world...Plus it adds to a child's initial reactions to new environments whilst an adult wouldn't be as shocked by different things due to experience...(Funny though that my favorite Zelda is Link's Awakening... :\)
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 21, 2004, 08:34:10 PM
I really hope we get to have a realistic Zelda with young Link. From the sounds of it though, young Link is going to get the cel-shaded treatment while teenage Link will get the realistic treatment, which is unfortunate. All it's going to do is further pound it into people's heads that young Link is the crappy baby Link while teenage Link is the cool one.
I'm also worried we may not get to see young Link in any more games because of Miyamoto's comments about Link having to grow up. *cough*sell-out*cough*
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Post by: Berny on June 22, 2004, 05:14:43 AM
Yeah, I'm worried about that too Gibdo. Adult Link is (super) fine and all that, but I like kid Link best. I think part of the reason that most people don't like Majora's Mask is that it was entirely young Link's adventure and they only got to see OniLink (if at all) at the end. These people, as you have mentioned, do not realize that up until OoT, Link has ALWAYS been a child. But there's not reasoning with some people.
I really like MM. I wish it had been longer, cellshaded, and on the Cube. Or just longer. All those masks....so much fun. ^_^ And I just found out the other day that MM is on the Zelda Collector's Edition disk! I should go play that. I need to beat Zeldas 1 and 2 first though. They're so HARD!
I digress so often...
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 22, 2004, 07:36:01 AM
Well if it eases off the pain a bit, Link is a kid in Minish Cap...
But I think Miyamoto meant Link has grown up for this game, not for good........Hopefully... ^_^;
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Post by: Chode2234 on June 22, 2004, 07:56:00 AM
I personally love the big link better, at least in OOT. And it gets confusing when there are now two of them. To me link has always been adult if you look at the old zelda comics in nintendo power and all the official art and so forth, it is just natural for a sword swinging hero be in his early 20's.
At least thats the way I feel.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 22, 2004, 09:17:50 AM
Most of those comics based their art on AoL's in which Link was 16. In the first Zelda game, Link was supposed to be around 10, and this is about how old he is in most of the other games. In fact, he's never been older than like 17 in any of the games.
There's some confusion about how old Link was in ALttP due to how he was depicted in the art, but notice how Capcom used young Link's voice in the GBA port.
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Post by: Jale on June 22, 2004, 10:26:38 AM
I think that this game is gonna be great but the reason that they set it with an older link in realistic graphics is to show sceptics that Zelda is still the top dawg in games.
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Post by: Chode2234 on June 22, 2004, 10:33:38 AM
I think they did the voice in the ports for consistancy not to illustrate age.
How old is he supposed to be in the oracle games, to me that is the big link from OOT am I right on that one?
I hope Nintendo didn't change the graphical style for the skeptics, thats all we need is them taking design cues from Xbox and PS2 fanboys that will never in a million years buy the next zelda game, that is unless the Revolution is backwards compatible...
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 22, 2004, 11:03:38 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Chode2234 I think they did the voice in the ports for consistancy not to illustrate age.
I'm not sure what you mean. They used two different voices for Link in OoT. One was for child Link and the other was for adult Link. Child Link's voice was used in the ALttP port.
Quote Originally posted by: Chode2234 How old is he supposed to be in the oracle games, to me that is the big link from OOT am I right on that one?
I don't feel like getting into a time line debate, but I have to say no. Remember that Zelda turned Link back into a child at the end of OoT and sent him back in time. There's a few other reasons too. Mainly the fact that the Triforce is whole in the Oracle games while it was still split up at the end of OoT. Also Ganon is dead and Twinrova are trying to resurrect. He was clearly still alive at the ending of OoT. Anyway, from the way he looks at the art, I figured his age fell somewhere between young and teenage Link, like maybe 13.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on June 22, 2004, 11:05:51 AM
"How old is he supposed to be in the oracle games, to me that is the big link from OOT am I right on that one?"
No, the Link is the Oracle games is a completely different Link...And from the art he looks to be around 12...
The best placement for the Oracle games is sometime after LttP...It fits well considering that the triforce is back together at the end of LttP, as is Ganon dead...
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Post by: Chode2234 on June 22, 2004, 11:32:37 AM
Yeah I don't want a timeline debate, but I was thinking of consistancy with the wind waker, this is something we will never know the answer to I am afraid, but I must reiterate that I like the adult link better he just seems so much more capable.
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Post by: Burning Excalibur on June 22, 2004, 12:50:42 PM
I'd just like to add, that while Big Link just always looks so much cooler, I mean especially since he and I would be around the same age, you know? I mean, there just aren't many cool teenage heroes out there. There are teenage heroes, but are they cool? No. Case closed.
And still, it's not that I don't appreciate young Link, as he is a MAJOR portion of the series, but Big Link can do so much more. And, not to mention, he kicks Young Link's ass in Smash Bros. Melee. lol
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Post by: elementc on June 22, 2004, 01:27:52 PM
I wasn't complaining about them changing Links's in my above post. I just want to know what happened. Did he ever find Navi? A simple yes or no from Miyamoto would make me much happier. Did he have kids grow up and die? Whatever, just tell me already!!
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Post by: Gibdo Master on June 22, 2004, 01:49:00 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Burning Excalibur but Big Link can do so much more.
I don't get this comment. It's true of OoT, but in all the other games young Link can do just as much as teenage Link.
Quote Originally posted by: elementc I wasn't complaining about them changing Links's in my above post. I just want to know what happened. Did he ever find Navi? A simple yes or no from Miyamoto would make me much happier. Did he have kids grow up and die? Whatever, just tell me already!!
Well, you can ask similar questions of all the Links, so I doubt your questions are ever going to be answered.
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Post by: elementc on June 22, 2004, 02:31:04 PM
The Navi thing is the only one that makes me sad though.
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Post by: Berny on June 22, 2004, 03:45:58 PM
He found Navi and they lived happily ever after with Skull Kid and Romani who had their first child Robert last month.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 22, 2004, 04:36:41 PM
Does this mean we get the next-generation adventure, the Legend of Robert?
KICK ASS!
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Post by: evil intentions on June 22, 2004, 07:02:05 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Gibdo Master
Quote Originally posted by: evil intentions
Quote Originally posted by: Gibdo Master
Out of those 10 games, the only ones to have an adult Link are Adventure of Link, OoT, and now the new game coming out. That's 3 out of a 11.
I don't think the Link in WW would be an adult yet.
I didn't mention WW though.
Bill is being overly technical about the term "adult" though, since people are just trying to separate the two age groups Link is usually in. I mean, you can call him teenage Link, older Link, or whatever you want too, but it basically means the same thing.
Oops sorry. I meant WW2.
The legend of Robert? Now THAT would be a game.
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Post by: Forte on June 22, 2004, 08:44:58 PM
I just hope that we don't make a big deal about kid Robert and adult Robert.
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Post by: Burning Excalibur on June 26, 2004, 03:05:50 PM
I want Big Robert. Though it would be nice to see how his life works out. I mean, since we don't REALLY know what happened to the real hero.... or more properly titled, The Legend. I hope Robert gets a fairy... somehow. In fact, I wish there was a Robert at all. Now I want the Legend of Robert and it doesn't even exist.
Title: RE:the new zelda game !!!! E3 2004
Post by: elementc on June 26, 2004, 08:55:10 PM
Screw Robert. When do we get to play as Link's illegitemate stepchild George?!