Post by: MeaN on May 23, 2004, 03:48:28 PM
Changes :
1. A, B, X and Y buttons bigger.
2. D-pad bigger.
3. Larger [now widescreen] top screen.
4. Somewhat larger lower screen.
5. Different L and R buttons.
6. Stereo speakers.
I'd take the DS over the PSP, but I admit I'm jealous about the PSP huge (for a handheld) screen. And yes, I understand the price involved, BIGGER screen = shorter battery life.
I CASE YOU WANT TO COMPARE THEM :
Actual DS (same picture I used)
http://home.comcast.net/~mypersonalpage/wsb/media/278465/site1052.jpg
My version
http://home.comcast.net/~mypersonalpage/wsb/media/278465/site1051.jpg
Post by: joeamis on May 23, 2004, 06:32:12 PM
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2004, 07:30:57 PM
Now all it needs is a place to hold the stylus, which i think should be right where the screens fold, and an analog stick for precision control.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 23, 2004, 09:08:15 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 23, 2004, 09:46:27 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 24, 2004, 01:08:28 AM
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
I like it, especially the larger buttons but... wouldn't the buttons jar against the wider topscreen. That's why there are those recesses at the top.
There are ways around the problem.
I like what you've done. It looks alot better. The normal DS looks really bad now. Thanks alot.
Post by: joeamis on May 24, 2004, 06:45:52 PM
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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Now all it needs is a place to hold the stylus, which i think should be right where the screens fold.
good idea
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 25, 2004, 11:46:04 AM
But listen, those L/R buttons...anyone know firsthand what they are like? Does a change need to be made there? They look somewhat awkwardly placed and less responsive that the traditonal "bars" shaped L/R buttons.
In terms of some hardware change, I would like the processor or 3-D chip to recieve a little boost, but thats likely a pipe-dream.
EVEN BETTER, increase the units system memory (currently at 4 MB I beleive)....and have it flashable....such that multi-boot games can be a little more beefy, maybe even pictochat can be flashed and re-flashed onto such multi-purpose memory so that whatever game you are playing, you can access pictochat nearly on the fly. I dont know if this is possible or feasible hardware-wise, any enlightenment here? Is System RAM that can be utlized both by the system and by the user as flashable small-capacity memory possible?
-Blackknight131
Post by: Bloodworth on May 25, 2004, 04:34:51 PM
I had no trouble with the L and R buttons, and never really even thought about it while I was playing. Jonny didn't like them as much though because you push them with the inside of your finger instead of the tip.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 25, 2004, 04:37:25 PM
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Im very interested in Nintendo's final case design....surely SURELY they will make some design changes after most everyone was wowed by the aesthetics of the PSP...
Everyone was also wowed by the aesthetics of the GBA SP, but that was nothing more than a square. Methinks the public is easily pleased.
Post by: KnowsNothing on May 25, 2004, 04:47:10 PM
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 25, 2004, 10:50:27 PM
Is it similar to the SP's style? Yes...but why does it not look as sleek? Its cuz its significantly larger than the SP. It now has the form factor analagous to a larg-ish silver "brick" (someone else's words) . That, and the fact that next to the design of the PSP it simply does not look as streamlined as it could be.
That said, I agree the look isnt horrible by any means...can it be tweaked tho, nipped and tucked as it were: I think it is possible and I dont see the harm, unless it would infringe on system components. It might be nice if they unveiled a luminescent white case....along the lines of iPod. Wonder what colors will be available at launch...
The L/R and buttons, I dont think I have a good idea about em. By your description, it does sound like the tactile feel when operating the buttons doesnt seem as natural as many people are accustomed too. Which, I spose, would be another cue it took from the GBASP. I'll assume it serves some design purpose however...
-Blackknight
Post by: ActorJ on May 26, 2004, 09:22:24 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 26, 2004, 09:57:17 AM
The d-pad issue kind of sucked in the end since they improved the d-pad on the SP and thus the same d-pads excuse didn't fly anymore. It would have been nice if Nintendo released new Cube controllers with the SP d-pad.
Anyway I agree that buying two of the same screen is obviously a good idea from a business perspective. But I also agree that having a wider top screen would be really nice. For any game that tries to seemlessly connect the two screens they can just squish the image on the top screen so it's only as wide as the bottom.
And if they stay with the same screen size why not fill up the extra space on the top half by putting in stereo speakers in the blank spaces to the sides of the top screen? Now realistically that may be hard to do since I don't know what "guts" are under that space but from a pure design point of view it makes sense. The speakers would be on opposite sides and the players hands wouldn't cover them.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2004, 10:38:24 PM
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 27, 2004, 09:10:52 AM
Thus far they have stated that the NDS will have battery life of about 10 hrs....putting two and two together it would be nice if they are being conservative once again. If the DS can end up going around 14 hrs (more!?) I would be thrilled.
Maybe that is hoping for too much, as the unit does have to power two screens and two processors...
-Blackknight131
Post by: KDR_11k on May 27, 2004, 08:57:19 PM
Post by: Bloodworth on May 28, 2004, 07:30:05 AM
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And if they stay with the same screen size why not fill up the extra space on the top half by putting in stereo speakers in the blank spaces to the sides of the top screen?
Not sure if you realize this, but the current speaker is in the right "groove" next to the top screen.
I have to continue to say that stereo speakers on a portable are utterly useless. The only reason you would do it is for hype, because they're not going to make one bit of difference that close together. Headphones give you better sound than two speakers would and keep you from aggravating people. By the way, I do believe I spotted a standard headphone jack on the front of the unit along with another mysterious hole.
Post by: Draygaia on May 28, 2004, 02:41:37 PM
But the thing that really gets to me the shell shape.
Post by: Blackknight131 on May 28, 2004, 11:37:10 PM
-Blackknight131
Post by: Gremio on May 31, 2004, 07:09:01 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/bug/nei_first/dsnintendo.jpg
Post by: Chode2234 on June 17, 2004, 04:27:44 AM
Post by: Jale on June 17, 2004, 06:49:33 AM
By the way has anyone thought about which necessary parts of the system will actually be in those ares next to the top of the screen while they were making that screen take up the whole area? Might be something important. Might not!
Post by: Chode2234 on June 17, 2004, 09:52:19 AM
Regardless I think it is a necessity if we are expected to play 3d games...
p.s. I hope nintendos handhelds don't become dumping grounds for previous generation consoles, I think the gba is about snes ported out and I would hate to see the same thing happen here as well.
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