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Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on February 07, 2003, 02:14:35 PM
As some of you may know, Square will be producing one of the first direct sequals to any Final Fantasy game.  Final Fantasy X-2 will feature Yuna, the now ex-summoner.  Rikku, Yuna's cousin,  will be another playable returning character and possibly others will be returning as well.
This thread is here for people to give their thoughts on the game and propose some speculation about it.
Personally, I am very excited about an actual sequal to a Final Fantasy game.  I've always wanted this for the FF series and now its finally happened.  They couldn't have picked a better FF game to make a sequal for.
So give your thoughts.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Duker on February 07, 2003, 05:11:34 PM
I think this game will be pretty good.  Although I'm slightly disappointed that some of the main characters are gone (Auron, sniff) it seems to be a good game.  Now that they brought back the job classes, it should be interesting on how it plays out.  The new character, Payne (sp?) looks pretty cool too.  Sorta like an Auron/Lulu mix.  Can't wait for it none the less!  
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: yrrab436 on February 07, 2003, 06:02:20 PM
I'm very interested.  I don't like the way it looks so far, but you can't judge a game from prerelease information.  I like how creative Square is being.  Pop Star job?  It would be very interesting to see a Ronso pop star.

I just hope the cast of playable characters expands beyond scantily clad human women.  I'm anxiously waiting for the announcement of male and/or non-human characters.

I'm glad that the battle system is completely redone.  I loved FFX's battle system, but I put nearly 120 hours into that game and something different is much appreciated.

Edit:
By "I don't like the way it looks so far..." I what I say later in the message about how they've only shown scantily clad women as playable characters so far.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on February 12, 2003, 02:47:43 AM
Do you think there will only be three characters?  Part of me thinks that would be good because you wouldn't have to worry about leveling so many people up, however, I like the diversity.  I think it may just be 3 playable characters because the Job system is what will give them their diversity.  
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: theaveng on February 15, 2003, 12:45:00 PM
Yuna, Rikku, Payne.  That's it.  You'll also see other characters from the original FF10, but they won't be playable.



If the story is as good as FF10's story was, FF10-2 will definitely be worth playing.  My only concern is the battle system.  If it's like Kingdom Hearts non-turn system, I'll probably hate it.  If it's the traditional turn-based system like all the other Final Fantasies, I'll love it!

Have you guys seen the trailer?  It looks awesome!
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on February 17, 2003, 05:49:53 PM
Haven't seen the trailer, and Kingdom Hearts makes me long for the turn based battle system found in FFX.  
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 16, 2003, 05:04:48 PM
FFX-2 was released in Japan this week and sold over 1 million copies on the first day alone.  I wonder if Zelda will do this well.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Squall on March 17, 2003, 10:16:10 AM
http://www.tokyopia.com/reviews.asp?reviewsid=53

Not so positive.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 17, 2003, 03:57:50 PM
What are you not so positive about?
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: yrrab436 on March 17, 2003, 06:19:37 PM
More than anything else, I'm looking forward to the return of the active time battle system.   I loved FFX's system, but every menu-based RPG I've played since FFX has used a turn-based system.  Active time is more exciting to me!
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Squall on March 18, 2003, 12:58:47 PM
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What are you not so positive about?


The impressions I linked to said the game wasn't so great.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: theaveng on March 18, 2003, 01:01:18 PM
There's little difference between turn-based and active-time based.  They both use menus and make your characters stand around until their turn pops up.  The only real difference is that the turn-based enemies will stand there forever until you move, where in Active-time they just keep attacking.  That's it... hardly any difference at all.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: GoldShadow1 on March 18, 2003, 03:39:39 PM
I must stay, this is a bizarre idea.  Suddenly, Square has ten new franchises!  The FF games in general were very complete at the end, with no room open for a sequel.  What's the point?
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 18, 2003, 04:27:58 PM
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Originally posted by: Squall
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What are you not so positive about?


The impressions I linked to said the game wasn't so great.



Oh.


They kinda left FFX open for a sequel at the end.  Have you ever beaten it?
Anyway, just because the story seems like the ends are tied, its nothing a good writer can't handle



Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: yrrab436 on March 18, 2003, 04:47:30 PM
Perhaps it's a false feeling, but to me active time battles seem to flow much more quickly than turn-based battles.  Maybe, in the games I've played, the battle animations were less superfluous in active time battles.  All I know is that active time is more exciting to me.  As far as any negative impressions go, I always try to see the best in things and focus on that.  It's very rare that I'm actually disappointed in a game.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: theaveng on March 19, 2003, 08:58:08 AM
Active-time battles more faster because the enemies don't just stand around and wait for you to move.  Of course, that's selectable.  When I played FF6/7/9, I chose the "wait" option which pauses the action whenever it's your turn... just like a normal turn-based battle.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 20, 2003, 03:46:23 PM
Turn based is much faster than active time battle.  In ATB you have to wait for the counter.  Even if its your turn, if the counter isn't finished you can't go yet.  There is no waiting in turn-based, thus, it is faster.  
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: theaveng on March 22, 2003, 02:09:57 PM
Good point, but that doesn't happen often.  Most times I found my moves "piling up" such that I was inputing commands for character #4 when characters 1, 2, and 3 were still waiting to do something.  That's due to Square's special effects taking longer than the timebar.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: yrrab436 on March 23, 2003, 04:24:40 PM
Another point about ATB not necessarily taking longer than Turn Based AKA Wait is that the computer opponents can execute moves while you're going through menus or making decisions.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on March 24, 2003, 04:08:31 AM
As soon as I beat FFX, I started playing FF7 and I was actually frustrated with how long I had to wait for the timer to run down.  
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 24, 2003, 03:59:38 PM
This game looks as dumb and corny as heck.  FFX was pretty good; meladramatic as they always are, but good.  This one is just plain silly.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: ResidentEvil on April 08, 2003, 07:07:34 PM
FFX and FFX-2 are known for their storylines, it doesn't matter what the graphics look like.  Oh wait, Im pretty sure you all said the same thing about Wind Waker, right?  *sigh*
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on April 08, 2003, 07:39:35 PM
Sorry, I'm not a big fan of FFX. It was a fairly dissapointing game. I'm not holding my breath for FFX-2, I hate the fact that they decided to "sex up" the characters.




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I like how creative Square is being. Pop Star job?


Sounds like a knock-off of the "Teen Idol" job in DQVII (and perhaps others)
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on April 24, 2003, 04:36:34 AM
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Originally posted by: Koopa Troopa
Sorry, I'm not a big fan of FFX. It was a fairly dissapointing game. I'm not holding my breath for FFX-2, I hate the fact that they decided to "sex up" the characters.




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I like how creative Square is being. Pop Star job?


Sounds like a knock-off of the "Teen Idol" job in DQVII (and perhaps others)


Final fantasy actually had a "singing" job first.  It's called bard.  So technically, DQVII, copied off final fantasy.

Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Ymeegod on April 26, 2003, 03:59:30 AM
"I wonder if Zelda will do this well. "

Wonder if you meant FFCC since Zelda WW has been out since X-mas in Japan.

About FF X-2.  I'm a bit disappointed with the ideal of a sequel especially after seeing the first Yuna pics.  Twin calibur guns for a priestess--doesn't add up.   Laura Croft anyone?  

Hopefully, the plot remains intact.

This is first FF that I won't be pre-ordering, instead I'm going wait for the reviews from my Fellow diehard FF players.

 
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Locke Cole on April 26, 2003, 04:03:28 AM
Yeah thing that mostly turned me off about this Final Fantasy is not that all girls are the characters for the game but that it seems that the game supposed to be really short.  People in Japan beat the game in a day!!!!
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: oohhboy on April 26, 2003, 07:58:07 AM
Couldn't they bring out another one of thier less exposed series? Like Front Mission 4 (Minus Teen angus)? This is one game that is due for a sequal. It also begs the question of when Final Fantasy is really the final fantasy.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Locke Cole on April 26, 2003, 08:30:35 AM
Well it was called Final Fantasy beacause when they put it on Nintendo they thought it would flop and be their Final Fantasy.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on April 26, 2003, 08:42:07 AM
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Final fantasy actually had a "singing" job first. It's called bard. So technically, DQVII, copied off final fantasy.


Yeah I know about the Bard class, and I suppose you can draw a comparison there. Either way it isn't innovative.

All I can do now is hope FFXII rocks.
Title: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: BobbyRobby on April 26, 2003, 06:36:57 PM
FFX-2 looks a little lame, but I'll still buy, and probably enjoy it.

We'll be getting Unlimited Saga this Summer.  That'll probably be cool.  
Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Marcus Arillius on September 13, 2003, 07:46:18 AM
For anyone that was wondering, this game has been given a release date of "sometime in December" which probaly means a delay until 2004 if past experiences are any indicator of the future releases.

Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: rpglover on September 13, 2003, 01:33:20 PM
the only square enix games i really want to see are final fantasy XII (hope its good) and star ocean 3
Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: Gup on September 13, 2003, 02:05:49 PM
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Originally posted by: BobbyRobby
FFX-2 looks a little lame, but I'll still buy, and probably enjoy it.

That sums up what I have to say.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: honda_insightful on September 14, 2003, 03:37:34 AM
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Originally posted by: oohhboy
Couldn't they bring out another one of thier less exposed series? Like Front Mission 4 (Minus Teen angus)? This is one game that is due for a sequal. It also begs the question of when Final Fantasy is really the final fantasy.



They are!  Front Mission 4 is coming out next spring.

And each game is a "final" fantasy for its own separate world and characters.  

Title: RE: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: oohhboy on September 14, 2003, 05:07:10 AM
I forgot to add whether it is coming out to Gamecube or not since if it does come out only on PS2 then It has been a waste of time. But I don't think I have to look very far to find my answer to that and no I will not be paying a new console just to play one game. Not my flavour.

Mm.. great multiple universes...
Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: honda_insightful on September 15, 2003, 02:55:17 AM
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Originally posted by: oohhboy
I forgot to add whether it is coming out to Gamecube or not since if it does come out only on PS2...




Well duh.  The numbered Final Fantasies (7,8,9,10,10-2,11,12) are all Playstation console exclusives.  This is so obvious, how could you miss it?  (The sky is blue too....go look.)  
Title: RE: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: oohhboy on September 15, 2003, 04:09:46 AM
I think I will just let you go on that one. Save us all the big bummer.
Title: RE: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 15, 2003, 08:58:33 AM
Well, I don't feel like letting this guy go .

It was not announced yet whether 12 will be exclusive or not. And FYI, 7, 8 and 11 were released on PC as well...
I'm not sure, was there even released more than just one pic (a random artwork) of FF12? I mean, we don't even know what it's about, yet people hype it up till kingdom come.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: honda_insightful on September 16, 2003, 03:59:37 AM
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FYI, 7, 8 and 11 were released on PC as well...


A PC is not a console.  I specifically said that the final fantasies (7-12) were CONSOLE-exclusive to the PS1/2.

And yes, FF12 has already been announced to be on the PS2 exclusively.  (Naturally. If you were making a AAA-title, the 12th in the 15-yr-old series, would you target the PS2 with 60 million consoles or the Cube/Box with only 12 million? The answer is obvious.  You target the largest audience.)



 
Title: RE: Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: KDR_11k on September 16, 2003, 07:52:25 AM
Tell me why SC2 didn't sell the most on PS2 then.
Title: RE:Final Fantasy X-2.
Post by: honda_insightful on September 18, 2003, 03:10:51 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Tell me why SC2 didn't sell the most on PS2 then.


You can't make that claim.  We only have one month's worth of stats.... come back after the Christmas holiday, and THEN we'll see which console sold the most copies of Soul Calibur 2.  (ASIDE: Historically, PS2 games continue selling high amounts for several months, while Cube/Box games quickly fall off the chart.  I predict, over the long term, SC2 will sell best on the 60 million strong PS2 console.... not the 12 million Cube/Box.  The PS2 has a 5 to 1 advantage in potential SC2 buyers.)

ANYWAY, Final Fantasy 12 *is* exclusive to the Playstation.  Sony/Squaresoft have already signed the contract, and Squaresoft made the announcment.  It's a done deal, and nothing you say will alter that fact.

P.S. Another reason FF12 on the Cube does not make sense: NOT ENOUGH DISC SPACE.  The Cube disc only hold 1.5 gigabytes.  The PS2 holds 9 gigabytes.  Because Squaresoft *loves* putting movies in their Final Fantasy games, they *need* to have all the space they can get, and the PS2 provides that space (6 times more room).