Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on April 24, 2004, 10:04:36 PM
Post your own rumours and news
Post by: KDR_11k on April 24, 2004, 11:04:51 PM
Post by: Obiyo on April 24, 2004, 11:15:05 PM
Post by: Renny on April 25, 2004, 07:04:25 AM
Post by: rpglover on April 25, 2004, 06:22:33 PM
no special features- it just does what other shooters have done in the past- except it does it with excellent results- it took a few things from half-life (i.e. story progression) but made a flavor of its own- you can only carry 2 weapons at a time- it seems weird but i liked it- and the vehicles are a wonder to drive- i loved halo as much as anyone- but i really dont see why it is hyped up as the greatest game ever- it does a lot of things right- and it is a ton of fun- but i wouldnt call it the best game ever as others may lead you to believe
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on April 26, 2004, 03:59:03 AM
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on April 26, 2004, 04:04:36 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2004, 02:41:14 AM
The first part of Halo was really good, the second part was really horrible...Add them together and you get an overall mediocre game...I'll likely get Halo 2, if not just for the co-op, which was the saving grace of the first one...(Uh oh, time to watch out for the cubedcanuck flame)
Post by: KDR_11k on April 27, 2004, 04:02:43 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 28, 2004, 04:59:20 AM
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All FPSers should have multiplayer, so it's nothing special...And there's not even anything great about it either, considering TimeSplitters 2 has much more...
Very true- in my opinion, Timesplitters 2 is not only the best console FPS ever made, but has by far the best mutliplayer for a primarily singleplayer FPS (then again, the only multiplayer FPS I think is better is Unreal Tournament 2004). Needless to say, I'm looking forward to Timesplitters 3 (if Free Radical is making it) and Second Sight.
Post by: cloudstrife111 on May 02, 2004, 06:49:07 PM
do i need lan card???? i dont kmow what that is but i think you need one for halo2
Post by: joeamis on May 02, 2004, 07:16:37 PM
it is the best fps for consoles ever.
Mainly the story is one of the worst
ever and was really just thrown
together to connect the disjointed levels.
Although the levels are all vastly different
because it's a time traveling game, the
overall result of this is bad. Theres no
real progression because of this design
and when I play a game I enjoy progressing
through a tightly interconnected story.
In my opinion no progression is good
for games like Wario Ware, but not for
a first person shooter. It's like comparing
watching a movie to watching a series
of movie previews that are supposed to be
connected to eachother.
Basically the single player mode is average
where seeing characters all of a sudden
spawn out of nowhere is common place,
while the multiplayer is one of the best ever.
I miss the days of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark
no matter how outdated those games are.
Post by: couchmonkey on May 06, 2004, 07:33:02 AM
I think the game would have been significantly better if they had actually made it shorter, condensing it to the best parts.
Actually, I've been thinking about a lot of games lately. Hopefully they're fixing this with Halo II. It does look good, and I'll probably play it just like the first, but Halo II probably won't be the game that makes me buy an XBox.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 06, 2004, 09:20:58 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on May 08, 2004, 02:51:10 AM
I really enjoyed the outdoor missions, but yes the interior designs were samey. Playing on legendary on co-op was a ton of fun.
Post by: evil intentions on May 08, 2004, 07:33:05 PM
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Originally posted by: cloudstrife111
halo 2 would be better if it had better weapons because the grenades explode to fast in when you throw them it. i wish nintendo made halo 2 because i don want a xbox though my bro wants one so we might get one
do i need lan card???? i dont kmow what that is but i think you need one for halo2
The alien grenades that stick to walls and aliens work great.
I can't wait to get my "kick alien butt" mode on. I am totally going to get Halo II. Halo was such a fun game and still is. Look out you alien scum!
(Halo online is even better)
Post by: Oldskool on May 09, 2004, 09:15:15 AM
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on May 15, 2004, 12:48:23 AM
Also I don't know if it works in campaign mode, i've only tried it in multiplayer.
Post by: Shift Key on May 15, 2004, 12:51:42 AM
Post by: ThePerm on May 15, 2004, 02:57:13 PM
Post by: Shift Key on May 16, 2004, 04:36:51 PM
AND ODDJOB. WHAT A FUNNY GUY! WHERE CAN I BUY A HAT LIKE THAT WITH THE SLICING AND DICING AND WHATNOT? 
Post by: VAVA Mk-2 on May 24, 2004, 07:50:37 PM
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on May 24, 2004, 11:56:40 PM
Post by: Shift Key on May 25, 2004, 12:10:07 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 25, 2004, 04:15:34 AM
again the pot call the kettle black.
Are there no mirrors in your home?
Post by: Mario on May 25, 2004, 04:19:40 AM
Post by: Shift Key on May 25, 2004, 04:20:08 AM
Post by: BigHit30 on May 25, 2004, 10:39:53 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 26, 2004, 02:27:28 AM
Anyone else think VAVA == BigHit?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 26, 2004, 02:51:12 AM
Post by: BigHit30 on May 26, 2004, 12:48:49 PM
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on May 27, 2004, 02:45:07 AM
Post by: Shift Key on May 27, 2004, 04:22:28 AM
QuoteAhahahaha. It wasn't the standard seven years ago. Run and gun games were the standard at the time. Can you name me another spy FPS that was in development at the time?
it WAS the standard in FPS action 7 years
The game was a very different in that you had to go about it cautiously at the harder difficulties. You HAD to sneak around, wait for an opportunity, avoid being spotted and conserve ammo in order to last.
Sure, the multiplayer was more run and gun, but the single player was completely different to anything around then.
QuoteSome of us still remember Rainbow Six
The general atmosphere hints to me that games like the original Rainbow Six and Operation Flashpoint never existed.
QuoteIGN 7.9
Besides, ask any gaming site like gamespot or ign and they will say the same thing.
Post by: BigHit30 on May 27, 2004, 05:56:34 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 27, 2004, 06:22:04 AM
Finally, I am not alone in my opinion of Goldeneye.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 27, 2004, 06:35:01 AM
If you are refering to HALO, then I am afraid your dyslexia is kicking in.
Post by: evil intentions on May 27, 2004, 02:32:28 PM
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Originally posted by: VAVA Mk-2
For people thinking that Halo is just another fps, you are sad. You need to really play MP and campaign. There are so many nuances in it like realistic limitations like only carrying 2 weapons and 8 grenades as well as proper weapons balance and combinations that work well in specific situations that it is truly set above all over fps. It is the current standard of FPS and Halo 2 will expand that with double weilding, other new limitations, jacking vehicles, the use of physics and environment interaction. The story is fantastic too and online will allow for clans and customization to armor. There is so much to halo that all you people that scoff at it and think it is another FPS are missing out. I know because I was once the same as you. I got my cube before my xbox because I thought halo was another fps but when i got my xbox a month after, I understood what all the fuss was about. It FAR surpasses Goldeneye and is the new standard in FPS. Mark your calendars because if you have an XBox, November 9 will rock your world.
Please tell me you're joking...
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 27, 2004, 02:46:53 PM
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Goldeneye was strictly an FPS with some bond gadgets and plot stuck in. It was fun but was definitely not the revolution that people still think it is to this day
Whether you liked it or not has absolutely nothing to do with it- the fact is, Goldeneye set the standard for console FPS's, it basically created the mold which they all followed. I don't care if you didn't think it was a good game in of itself- its your opinion, besides being irrelevant- but you can't deny the impact Goldeneye had on the console FPS world. And saying Goldeneye mattered before but not now is like saying Super Mario Bros. doesn't matter anymore because platformers are so different now.
All in all, though, I will now be taking a cue from KDR:
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Gah, why am I typing all this? *note to self: Don't feed the trolls*
Post by: KDR_11k on May 27, 2004, 09:39:24 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on May 30, 2004, 03:19:25 PM
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Originally posted by: evil intentions
Please tell me you're joking...
Why would he be joking? What's so wrong with what he said?
Post by: Koopa Troopa on May 30, 2004, 05:45:21 PM
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Finally, I am not alone in my opinion of Goldeneye.
And what company you keep! Your new buddy's poor punctuation and inability to write a message with any consistency speaks volumes. I bet you limit your posts to one-line so you don't risk exposing yourself as being on his intellectual level. Am I right?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 31, 2004, 02:55:35 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I thought Thief defined the stealth FPS? From what I remember Thief and Commandos were the first stealth games and after them a barrage followed.
Didn't Thief and Rainbow Six debut fairly close to each other? To me, they both shaped future stealth-FPS gameplay. Caution was key, otherwise the hostages wouldn't stand a chance. Rainbow Six was also one of the first, if not the first, tactical shooters to allow comprehensive assault strategy to take priority over action play.
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Originally posted by: ShiftyQuote
Some of us still remember Rainbow Six
Thank you!
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 01, 2004, 08:42:04 AM
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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
" IGN 7.9"
If you are refering to HALO, then I am afraid your dyslexia is kicking in.
Actually it's a reference to IGN Cube's review of Mario Kart: Double Dash...
But I give Halo a 7.9 for not having custom skins on the Warthog...
Post by: thecubedcanuck on June 02, 2004, 02:25:08 AM
Who gives a crap. I dont play games to make the cars in them look pretty.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 02, 2004, 04:12:24 AM
Do you have take every post seriously cuby? It was obvious that Bill was joking.
I'd give Hayloe a 7.9 b/c it doesn't have Samus in it.
Post by: DrZoidberg on June 02, 2004, 04:41:28 AM
blol this thread doesn't have any skins either, 7.9 sorry
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 02, 2004, 07:14:47 AM
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Originally posted by: thecubedcanuck
"But I give Halo a 7.9 for not having custom skins on the Warthog.."
Who gives a crap. I dont play games to make the cars in them look pretty.
*sigh* Yeah, it was a joke...IGN rated Double Dash down because there weren't custom skins...Stupid, eh?
Post by: AMac2002 on June 03, 2004, 11:29:38 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 03, 2004, 11:37:27 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 03, 2004, 12:49:04 PM
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Originally posted by: AMac2002
I don't the 7.9 score was based purely on that.
Well obviously, but this is IGN we are talking about...
Post by: DrZoidberg on June 03, 2004, 03:40:51 PM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on June 04, 2004, 03:25:07 AM
or could it be that the game was far to N64ish in all aspects?
Post by: DrZoidberg on June 04, 2004, 03:36:07 AM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 04, 2004, 03:47:37 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on June 05, 2004, 06:15:51 AM
Post by: vixtro on June 08, 2004, 01:25:08 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 08, 2004, 02:39:31 AM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 08, 2004, 03:01:27 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 08, 2004, 06:12:46 AM
Half-life 2 probably won't even come out this year, which means the possibility of an Xbox version is pretty close to zero(in which console versions of the title will be pushed back to next gen, where Newell SAID HIMSELF that the title will likely reach the Revolution and PS3)...There's no way Doom 3 will be able to run on the Xbox without framerate issues...So yeah, I'll see how the gaming industry churns...
(And please use some basic English skills :\)
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 08, 2004, 08:10:58 AM
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well then u havent seen any of the game footage have u lol cuz halo 2 looks damn great and i'm so looking forward to see what will happen on the gaming market when halo 2, half-life 2 and doom 3 come out on xbox hehe cuz gamecube and ps2 are gonna have ta pull there socks up if they wanna compete but my mate keeps telling me that doom 3 will be on gc lol gc wouldnt be able to handle it if it is good as they say it is
I don't mean to sound faboyish, but the XBox version of Doom III doesn't look near as good as everyone is making it out to be (which isn't surprising- Vicarious Vision, the guys behind Clone Wars, is handling the port). Resident Evil 4 looks much better in my opinion- in fact, I think it's the best looking console game to date and will probably remain so for quite some time.
And I'm with Bill- learn some English, man, it's not that hard.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 08, 2004, 09:11:42 AM
Post by: AMac2002 on June 08, 2004, 01:01:57 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
A trailer won't tell you how much actual content is in the game. For all you know it could be just one level that takes five minutes to go through. They could claim 20 hours of playtime which consists of three rooms looping over and over again and you wouldn't know this until the game is out. Don't think you know a game is going to be great just because you saw the trailer or the first game was good.
Yeah, the E3 awards should let you know instead...
But really if Bungie can make Halo so good, while it being rushed like hell, think of what they can do with a bunch of time on their hands.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 08, 2004, 01:38:38 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on June 08, 2004, 01:48:14 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
Halo wasn't rushed like hell, the XBox port was rushed like hell- there's a difference. Bungie had been working on the finer details of Halo for years before it eventually came out. The only reason it was rushed at all was because Microsoft sprung the port on Bungie almost at the last minute and they had to work their asses off to get it finished.
Hey, I know about Halo's history, I was just saying it was rushed man.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 08, 2004, 01:52:26 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on June 09, 2004, 12:53:23 AM
Post by: oohhboy on June 09, 2004, 03:54:08 AM
Having played the PC version which was a lousy port too, I would have to say it had it's moments. Really, it did. Like a sticky genade on an elite's crotch. But came second half of the game and everybody know what happened there. Also this so called weapon balance thing some one keeps bragging about, well it was an uneeded pain in the ass, that's assumming the weapons were balanced. Firing 60 rounds of anything at that velocity would have ripped any soft target to bits. Some assult rifle. Pistol is stronger. Disappearing shots from the shot gun. Why the shotgun Vs zombie thing? Why the past and cut levels? Why do humans have ineffective weaponry?
Halo in one sentance. "Halo was a good game, maybe even great, but it was flawed".
Post by: Renny on June 09, 2004, 04:31:50 AM
Jack of all shooters, master of hype.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 09, 2004, 07:02:29 AM
Post by: AMac2002 on June 09, 2004, 02:31:16 PM
Post by: oohhboy on June 10, 2004, 06:50:17 AM
With the assult rifle, it is useful, but your required to unload pretty much the entire clip into a given target to kill it except for the Ewoks of course. It also heavyly depended on range as it sprays bullets like spit out of a dumbass.
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 10, 2004, 06:56:17 AM
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It also heavyly depended on range as it sprays bullets like spit out of a dumbass.
Best description ever right there.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 10, 2004, 07:39:36 AM
Post by: evil intentions on June 11, 2004, 01:02:54 PM
The shotgun is also my favorite gun. It's very good close up. The alien guns are also good to use for you don't have to worry about running out of ammo, but you can't use it too fast or you'll have to wait a while for it to charge up again. It also runs out of battery and you have to get a new one.
Does anyone know who's the alien scum we have to take on in Halo 2?
Post by: NintendoSoldier on July 02, 2004, 08:09:01 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 02, 2004, 08:10:47 PM
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Post by: mouse_clicker on July 02, 2004, 10:47:03 PM
Post by: elementc on July 03, 2004, 03:08:48 PM
Post by: soulfate on July 12, 2004, 06:21:36 PM
To fully understand why people like Halo so much, you need to play a large multiplayer game (at least 4v4, but 8v8 CTF is best). It's only then you'll know why so many people are looking forward to Halo 2
Post by: KDR_11k on July 12, 2004, 10:02:48 PM
Post by: soulfate on July 12, 2004, 10:23:35 PM
- UT2K4 MP you can carry many weapons, Halo you can carry 2. Making UT2K4 more action based, Halo more strategy based.
- UT2K4 has much faster gameplay than Halo, defining them even more into the action/strategy catergories.
- UT2K4 CTF you can carry the flag and shoot at the same time, but in Halo the flag carrier can't shoot. Again, action vs strategy.
Pretty much any reason I come up with will breakdown to UT2K4 being an action game, Halo being a more strategic game. I wouldn't say any one of them is better than the other; they're both popular games and both for good reason. I'd just recommend Halo for a more strategic MP game, UT2K4 for a gung-ho action MP game
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 13, 2004, 02:03:54 AM
Post by: soulfate on July 13, 2004, 03:07:12 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 13, 2004, 04:37:45 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 13, 2004, 05:00:29 AM
Post by: DrZoidberg on July 13, 2004, 05:07:37 AM
also, FSKFKSKFKSFSF TALK ABOUT HALO DAMN IT.
Post by: soulfate on July 13, 2004, 06:29:41 AM
It's not just having two weapons of course, the ease at which you can die is a big factor also. Halo's more 'peek round the corner and gun', coz if you run and gun, you die. My previous point with TS2 is that you can just run around without any real danger coz you take a while to die and you're very hard to hit if you run in erratic strafing patterns. Dying quickly does add another element of strategy to the game because you have to plan your assualts as a team, not just run in, grab it, and run away like I said before for TS2.
Post by: KDR_11k on July 13, 2004, 08:27:05 AM
In UT2004 the flag carrier can shoot, but if you're playing Bombing Run or use a mutator that suddently stops. Want a two gun limit? There's probably a mutator for that. Want a slower pace? Lots of mutators for that, too. Mutators are fun, especially the RPG mutator.
Besides, we're leaving Onslaught out of the equation. Onslaught involves tactics, combined arms, etc. It's more a capture point gameplay instead of "run into their base and get the hell back" and a lot more dynamic than standard CTF since the frontline is moving. I think some people who played Tribes will now argue that Tribes had more strategy than both Halo and UT2004...
Also, the strategic gameplay reminds me of how CS is meant to be played. No run and gun, you can't run when under fire and a few shots can down you, plus you are out for the round if you die. Personally I don't like it, but hey, apparently enough people do.
So basically we could argue Counterstrike vs. Halo...
EDIT: BTW, Bill, which Virus game are you talking about? There's more than one, I have a Descent-style RTS of that name.
Post by: Warptera on July 13, 2004, 08:30:32 AM
Be sure you have your speakers on!
Post by: soulfate on July 13, 2004, 01:52:36 PM
I already realised about the weapon mutators, but I'm not sure if it would be the same because it would be hard to make it work comprehensively without compromising gameplay, I guess it's possible though. Slowing down though, that's a good point, except any game that I play online is sped up if anything (it's fast enough for me already
isgust but I think a great game would be a TeamDM with the Zoom Instagib mutator, dodging disabled, and the character movement speed dropped down a bit but not to the point where it's sluggish. Maybe some sort of respawn time growth rules too. It would make the shots alot easier to hit, so you'd be forced to use cover more than in the normal game. Think that would work?
Post by: evil intentions on July 13, 2004, 07:11:59 PM
Halo II looks a lot better than Halo I. Halo I needed more levels and I could never beat the last level in the hardest mode.
The pistol was my third favorite gun. It was the easiest way to kill those blue and red aliens. (Sorry don't know what they are called) Basically, Brute Force and Halo are my two favorite shooting games for the xbox.
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 13, 2004, 07:19:48 PM
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My previous point with TS2 is that you can just run around without any real danger coz you take a while to die and you're very hard to hit if you run in erratic strafing patterns.
Eh, did you only play on Easy mode or something? Go play it on Hard mode and come back and tell me you can "run around without any real danger".
Post by: soulfate on July 13, 2004, 07:27:52 PM
You'll beat the last level (the Maw) on Legendary if you play co-op
It's actually sort of funny that Brute Force is another fav of yours coz it's the only other Xbox game that was made with the Halo engine (dunno if you already knew that...)
mouse_clicker: I was playing against some friends at the time; if I can avoid playing bots then I will, just because they don't act at all like people (but have to admit that UT bots are prob the best I've played).
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2004, 02:18:40 AM
I think the "slower movement, one shot kill" is basically how Paintball is played, no? There should be some PB mods out by now...
Post by: evil intentions on July 14, 2004, 08:25:46 AM
Post by: soulfate on July 14, 2004, 06:12:52 PM
